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With the recent discussion about how Aya is directly connected to a work by Riichi Ueshiba, I thought it'd be time to open this discussion up again. What are some other instances you can think of where ZUN's characters, music, etc., were inspired by other sources?

>> No.34735528

>>34735414
>recent
What shit thread on what shit board?

>> No.34737271

>>34735414
>recent discussion
where

>> No.34737617

On r/Touhou, don't you guys go there?

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>>34737617
No. Now kill yourself back there.

>> No.34741541

>>34735414
this thread again?

>> No.34743693

bump

>> No.34743708

>>34743693
Why did you bump this thread.

>> No.34743721

>>34743708
bump

>> No.34743849
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Most of the names in EoSD come from the manga Sarai. Cirno is based on Cirno-Tapa, Patchouli is based on Patchouli Seal, and Remilia and Flandre are based on Remilia-Flanuit. Sakuya doesn't share her name with Nudge, but her design is heavily inspired by Nudge.

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Another angle

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>> No.34745047
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>>34745036
Pretty much Reisen

>> No.34745055

Just a reminder, if you try and imply that any of these are reaches or coincidences, op will say that you're a waifufag refusing to accept the truth that your waifu isn't 100% original

>> No.34745072

>>34745036
>>34745047
this one feels like a reach or coincidence

>> No.34745082

Just a reminder, if you try and imply that any of these aren't reaches or coincidences, the schizosperg from /v/ will project his own schizospergia onto you and refuse to accept the truth that their waifu isn't 100% original.

>> No.34745103

Just a reminder, if you try and imply that any of these are or aren't reaches or coincidences, some freak will come along and project his own schizospergia onto you and refuse to accept anything other than their own opinion on the subject.

>> No.34745106

>>34745082
See, there it is.
The recent discussion he mentioned is also from /v/, making this a crossposter thread you can safely ignore.

>> No.34745166

>>34735414
I got some pictures somewhere that some anon made with a bunch of comparisons, mostly regarding Takemoto Izumi
I'll post em later when I find em

>> No.34745170

Did your ban cool down already or are you evading?

>> No.34745194

>>34745166
You can find them on the blog or whatever of the guys who translated the pc-98 games
It's a whole, 15 image set compilation.

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>>34735414
>>34745166

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>>34745203
actually I said some anon made these but I'm now that I'm thinking about it I'm really not sure about that
I just said that cause I found em here in jp

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>>34745235

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>>34745247

>> No.34745274

>>34745194
>>34745235
ah piss I didn't saw this message before I started posting
I'll search for the link to the blog, it's much better than just posting these individually
sorry about that

>> No.34745366

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSle1oJvsSg

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"inspiration"

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>>34745235
I'm pretty sure Gengetsu is based on this girl

>> No.34745956

These are all very informative.

>> No.34746041

>>34745366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q8GCKrAhxo
Release date: March 7th, 2007
Mountain of Faith first demo: May 20th, 2007
There were two demos and the main game, so I can't tell if Momiji appeared in the second demo or the main game or if she was conceptualized a little before then, but it is highly likely this is where it comes from.

>> No.34746128

>>34746041
how do people even find this? how long have people known about this?

>> No.34746141

>>34746041
It's far older than that bro. It's from 1984 if I remember correctly.

>> No.34746232

>>34745366
>>34746041
so many awoo comments on the videos, i'm disgusted

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>> No.34746401

>>34746232
What's wrong, don't you want to make awoo great again?

>> No.34746424

>>34746401
has anyone ever traced the origins as to why momiji got associated with that in the first place?

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>>34743849
>Remilia and Flandre are based on Remilia-Flanuit
I haven't seen someone fall for misinformation on Uncyclopedia in a long time. There is no such character.
But the names Meiling and Chen are said to be taken from a book called 上海幻夜.

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>>34737617
FUCK YOU, PEDHO

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>>34746459
This is true.

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>>34746564

>> No.34746876

>>34735414
You guys keep posting the same shit every thread for the past 15+ years.

>> No.34746898

https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/boards/v.vg/filename/1620954423112/
fuck off

>> No.34746953

It's almost as if you should have left this to thread die in the first place.

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>>34746876
>>34746898
>>34746953

>> No.34747043

>>34746564
>>34746582
Where do these scans of the Sarai manga keep coming from? Reverse image searching is bringing up nothing for most of these.

>> No.34747198

>>34747043
These are pictures of the novel that guy mentioned. Specifically, pages where Chen and Meiling show up. I don't know why you thought they were manga scans.

>> No.34747304

it kind of makes you wonder if zun has ever been original in his entire life

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>> No.34747937

good thread

>> No.34747961

>good thread
it's a paste.
a 1 to 1 repost of the previous fucking threads. there's nothing new here.

>> No.34748538

>>34747961
>a 1 to 1 repost of the previous fucking threads
except it's not, >>34745203 through >>34745260 are all new retard

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>> No.34748809

>>34746424
With MAGA, or with Awoo? Awoo because wolf, MAGA because red hat and previous presence on /int/ and /pol/ because of A FUCKING LEAF on her shield.

>> No.34748833

>>34747304
It makes you wonder if people realize doujin games are often fangames, and sometimes are entirely based around existing IPs.

>> No.34748917

>>34748809
The MAGA thing. I don't go to /int/, the hell does /int/ have to do with Momiji and how did it get there? You don't honestly expect me to believe some Canada thread over there got flooded with Touhou posters and used her as her mascot then flooded the MAGA threads.

>> No.34748968

>>34748917
wouldn't be surprising consider half of /int/'s generals are pretty much /jp/ outposts.

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>> No.34749600

>>34746424
Because it was an awoovement

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>>34749600

>> No.34750304

anyone calling out music for sounding similar is too retarded to understand how music works

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>> No.34750413

>>34745047
Reisen predates Negima, I think.

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>>34750304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-QacmltD4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BakWVXHSug

You're the only retarded one around here to be this hung up on ZUN's "creative purity" or whatever dumb quest you're on.

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I love not thinking, now with more deadly, painful cancer.

>> No.34750477

>>34750459
I like how you can tell which is which

>> No.34750540

>>34750416
well done for proving that you're a retard who doesn't understand how music works
nobody gives a shit about creative purity because there's nothing original under the sun
you do remember that this is a doujin series right? the whole thing was built on copying things ZUN liked and putting his own twists on them.
what's next? you gonna start calling Nobuo Uematsu a hack because the bombing mission theme in FF7 was inspired by music from Terminator?
singling ZUN out for this stuff seems pointless to me, because every composer under the sun has done it. Doom's soundtrack was famously mostly ripped off metal.

>> No.34750614

>>34750540
Everyone who worked on FF is a hack by default.

>> No.34750755

>>34750614
This

>> No.34750792

>>34750540
You're the first one to bring up the word "hack" in 70 posts. Just chill already dude.

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What do you think ZUN used for inspiration for Chen?

>> No.34752078

>>34752033
please don't tell me chen is based on anything i can only take so much

>> No.34752131

>>34750540
They're not criticising ZUN for this, people just think it's interesting to find the influences. Originality is a completely optional element of art.
What was the vidya OST track that's pretty much a 1-for-1 of Luna Dial?

>> No.34752146

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_influences

A little outdated, but it's still relevant

>> No.34752452
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A new development I found on this song that has never been mentioned before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvARyxMdIU

You've probably heard numerous times that at 2:28, you hear a bit of Cirno's theme. However, there was an interesting tidbit in the lyrics that went completely under the radar because the song is in Swedish. Here is a part of the song's lyrics:

Och som den blåögda idiot man nu en gång är
Jag sa: "Åh jag vill gifta mej med dej"

You probably notice the "idiot" and are thinking "so what?". Well, here's the translation:

And as the blue-eyed idiot you once were
I said: "Oh I want to marry you"

BLUE-EYED IDIOT

Are these things a coincidence? Absolutely, as ZUN doesn't speak Swedish, but the odds of this are astronomical. Even so, it's a very interesting synchronicity nevertheless.

>> No.34752515

>>34752452
what the fuck

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>>34752452
As expected from the strongest

>> No.34753921

>>34752452
that's a really funny coincidence indeed

>> No.34754128

>>34752452
ZUN is a genius.

>> No.34754356

>>34752131
>>34747304

>> No.34754414

>>34747304
are you fucking retarded?

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>>34751552
That last one ain't quite it, chief.

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>> No.34759798

>>34756482
Some people argue that either rhinoceroses or giraffes are what inspired kirin/quilin, or rhinoceroses inspired unicorns, etc. There's similar arguments that misidentified red pandas are what inspired Nue myths because they kinda fit the description: tiger legs, weird face, weird tail. Admittedly, the red panda being included in that image is rather tongue in cheek.

Anyways have a link so you know I'm not bullshitting
https://ddnavi.com/review/484126/a/

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>>34766153

>> No.34766190

Good thread.

>> No.34766253

>>34766190
I agree

>> No.34766353

man I wish more Takemoto Izumi stuff was translated, there's surprisingly little ammount of stuff
Transistor Venus was pretty fun though, love that cat

>> No.34766408

>>34752452
it's just divine providence

>> No.34767428

>>34766153
Alice is such a famous character and known design that trying to say that someone based their Alice character on specifically another (except, of course, the original from Lewis Caroll) sounds like extreme bullshit

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>> No.34770064

>>34746424
One guy spammed her in the /ptg/ threads

>> No.34770703

>>34735414
>Aya is directly connected to a work by Riichi Ueshiba
She isn't but if you're just full of it sure you can somehow think that only one person could ever think of a girl with dark hair and a skirt/a crow (and they're a tengu)

Don't get me wrong because ZUN has outright stolen some designs, names, and early on even art, but calling this a reach is an understatement

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Ryunosuke Akutagawa's Kappa novel is the basis for the river and mountain assholes behavior. The guy even looks like a kappa himself.

>> No.34776736

>>34770703
bruh, zun referenced this with the cola of the same image
you're freaking delusional

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