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Tanaka Reina thread!

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So happy

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The new BSB

>> No.3463029

>>3463009
That is very scary, Satoda is just as tall as them too.

>> No.3463045

>>3462930
Why is Reina's bow lopsided?

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>>3463045
To match her delicious wonkiness.

>> No.3463092 [DELETED] 

>>3463063
She looks a lot like Hirano Aya. Wouldn't be surprised if she's started sucking copious amounts of cocks, too.

>> No.3463142

>>3463063
She looks a lot like Hirano Aya there.

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>>3463092
lick lick

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>>3463142
lol...fixing a post you forgot to sage is pointless, the damage is already done.

Back on topic, juicy Reina.

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>> No.3463202

So how are Momusu tracking in comparison to AKB48 and similar groups? In my anime (Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei) there's constant references to AKB48 but I only recall 1 for Momusu.

None for the Kids.

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>>3463142
Agreed, except prettier. Much prettier.

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>>3463170
>juicy Reina.
Hopefully some of her older PB's will be in stock
at the hellostore

>> No.3463277

>>3463202
>So how are Momusu tracking in comparison to AKB48 and similar groups?
Not a good question to bring up around here because it usually leads to constant trolls.
>In my anime (Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei)
Don't watch anime anymore but their name will pop up in all sorts of places, mostly television and radio

>> No.3463289

>>3463202
>In my anime
We don't watch your annoying 2D cartoons anon.

>> No.3463296

>>3463266
It would be awesome if they did, but for the moment I think they're only carrying concert goods and the like. I talked to Dave from JapanFiles at AX for a bit, he basically said that most anything's fair game if the demand is high enough...so it's possible that they'll eventually carry PBs.

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>>3463296
>I talked to Dave from JapanFiles at AX for a bit
Oh and who are you again? And where did this happen? AX?
>so it's possible that they'll eventually carry PBs.
Oh I was under the impression that they would have a few of them at open, thats fine, I can spend more on photocards and other things. Aika t-shirt

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>>3463328
>>Oh I was under the impression that they would have a few of them at open,
Well, the original banner that was up before the opening date was announced did mention PBs.

>>Aika t-shirt
lol.

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>>3463328
>Oh and who are you again?
Nobody of significance, just a wota who got sick of all the BS on those other sites and found my way here.

>And where did this happen? AX?
Yeah, he was at Hello!Party after the MM concert during Anime Expo, getting familiar with the future customer base I'd assume. I bought a few DVDs from a guy there...Dave saw them, came up and asked me if I'd buy H!P DVDs from HelloStore if they sold them. I told him I absolutely would, and he thanked me and said he was just trying to gauge what would be good to eventually carry on HelloStore. He was doing stuff like that with lots of the fans at AX, actually.

>> No.3463461 [DELETED] 

>>3463202

Nobody here will ever be willing to admit it, but the reality is that they're doing a pretty job bad at keeping up with the competition in spite of their head start of several years.
To put it bluntly, if you've been an embarrassingly overzealous fan since the heydays what's left of the group today will probably mean something to you. To everyone else, it's just background noise, a thing of the past that has failed to live up to its former glory.
It's also worth noting that they no longer have any program of their own and in general are rarely seen on TV.

>> No.3463481

>>3463202

Nobody here will ever be willing to admit it, but the reality is that they're doing a pretty job bad at keeping up with the competition in spite of their head start of several years.
To put it bluntly, if you've been an embarrassingly overzealous fan since the heydays what's left of the group today will probably still mean something to you. To everyone else, it's just background noise, a thing of the past that has failed to live up to its former glory.
It's also worth noting that they no longer have any program of their own and in general are rarely seen on TV.

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>>3463392
Thats a pretty good shirt but I don't like those super long ones. Wait, did he just wrap a banner around himself? If not some stuff along these lines.

>> No.3463568

>>3463481
>but the reality is that they're doing a pretty job bad at keeping up with the competition in spite of their head start of several years.
Head start of several years? What are you talking about, they have over a decade of history. Over the last couple years the bandwagon fans have tailored off to other groups through their lure tactics or just being angry about certain members graduating.
But the real truth is that they are on the upswing for the last 1 year and half and their last two singles have had a wide scale television campaign with the OG's and they are making appearances all over the place.
>if you've been an embarrassingly overzealous fan
Arashi troll detected although more subtle than usual.

>It's also worth noting that they no longer have any program of their own
As if having episode 600 of Akbingo is that much of a merit nowadays. If anything the newer idol groups stole the Musume weekly idol televison formula but never put the music out to back it up.
That doesn't mean that Haromoni and Yorosen weren't shitty though. And Bijo Houdan is no world beater either.
The ultimate bottom line is, every other idol group is routing for Musume to go down so they can clog up the head share of the industry but its not going to happen anytime soon.

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>>3463465
>just a wota who got sick of all the BS on those other sites and found my way here.
Which ones?
>if I'd buy H!P DVDs from HelloStore if they sold them.
This is the one thing I think they need to bring prices down on honestly, I will see what concert DVD's they will make available, I hope they decide to go deep on this.

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>>3463673
>Which ones?
I originally got into the H!P community through blogging, International Wota and whatnot. I'm not much of a forum-goer, so I never really posted on H!O or JPH!P or any of those places. Still, for the most part, the attitudes of the bloggers aren't much different from those of the forum fags, they just articulate better...so I lump them all together.

Attending AX was kind of a turning point for me...seeing the girls in person made me realize what being a wota is really all about. Shortly after that I got sick of the attitude most Western H!P "enthusiasts" have and eventually made my way to /jp/.

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>>3463568
>But the real truth is [yadda yadda]
And the results are? I'm sorry but I see no changes whatsoever, much less any appreciable impact on the public's opinion, which is pretty much proof that only opinionated fans care about Morning Musume nowadays.
What's more, hadn't it been for the whole ruse of forcing fans to buy 500 different versions of the same single to get the same bonus content that could've easily been compacted to a single one sales would've been the exactly same.
Also, handshake events.

>As if having episode 600 of Akbingo is that much of a merit nowadays.
When you consider the viewer feeback, yes, it is. AKBingo has an average rating of about 4.5% every week. How does the other programs you mentioned stack up to it?
Also, fucking LOL at "stealing". Coming from a fan of a group which is admittedly ripped off Onyanko Club. I can't begin to express how much ignorance and self-righteousness it takes to spout off such statements. Hey, I guess Halo invented guns, too.
Fact is, MM wouldn't even exist today hadn't it been for Yasushi.

>The ultimate bottom line is, every other idol group is routing for Musume to go down so they can clog up the head share of the industry but its not going to happen anytime soon.

I love this mindset, seriously. I've read stuff like this so many times I'm starting to wonder if it's commonplace with every single one of you delusional cruds.
So what you are implying is that only Morning Musume deserves a place in the industry, while everyone else is just a thievering usurper and has no business taking its place.
Sorry, but that's not how a competitive market works. If a product is more popular, is qualitatively better and manages to always stay fresh, it's only the natural course of the events that it will replace the unpopular, outdated one.

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>>3463568
>But the real truth is [yadda yadda]
And the results are? I'm sorry but I see no changes whatsoever, much less any appreciable impact on the public's opinion, which is pretty much proof that only opinionated fans care about Morning Musume nowadays.
What's more, hadn't it been for the whole ruse of forcing fans to buy 500 different versions of the same single to get the same bonus content that could've easily been compacted into a single one sales would've been exactly the same.
Also, handshake events.

>As if having episode 600 of Akbingo is that much of a merit nowadays.
When you consider the viewer feeback, yes, it is. AKBingo has an average rating of about 4.5% every week. How does the other programs you mentioned stack up to it?
Also, fucking LOL at "stealing". Coming from a fan of a group which admittedly ripped off Onyanko Club. I can't begin to express how much ignorance and self-righteousness it takes to spout off such statements. Hey, I guess Halo invented guns, too.
Fact is, MM wouldn't even exist today hadn't it been for Yasushi.

>The ultimate bottom line is, every other idol group is routing for Musume to go down so they can clog up the head share of the industry but its not going to happen anytime soon.
I love this mindset, seriously. I've read stuff like this so many times I'm starting to wonder if it's widespread among you delusional cruds.
So what you are implying is that only Morning Musume deserves a place in the industry, while everyone else is just a thieving usurper and has no business taking it?
Sorry, but that's not how a competitive market works. If a product is more popular, manages to always stay fresh and is overall qualitatively better it's only the natural course of the events that it will replace the unpopular, outdated one.

>> No.3463982

>>3463790
>have and eventually made my way to /jp/.
The road to /jp/ is often very interesting when it comes to the idol thread goers. The rest of /jp/ is completely different, often a more depressing tale, not to say we are revered citizens or anything. I just think we have a much more diverse background.
>I got sick of the attitude most Western H!P "enthusiasts"
Not sure what exactly you are referring to but have you had a taste of what >>3463910 has to offer in terms of attitude?

>>3463910
>forcing fans to buy 500 different versions of the same single to get the same bonus content that could've easily been compacted into a single one
>Also, handshake events.
Can you really argue these points as an AKB faggot? They are notorious for gimmicks and tricks to sell CD's. Not to mention their notorious troll campaigns across the entire internet.
>MM wouldn't even exist today hadn't it been for Yasushi.
I never said that idols didn't exist before Musume just that modern idols are all television media first and gravure books first and music second.
>If a product is more popular, manages to always stay fresh and is overall qualitatively better
So pumping out tons of shit that fangirls eat up or Japanese tweens want to hop onto the popular bandwagon is qualitatively better. I haven't heard a AKB song that was either fresh and new or appealing.
And also, cool army of girls to cycle through once the one month interest burns off. They can just be put on Team K for a few months.

>> No.3464068

>>3463982

LOL ignorant Morning Musume faggot. Enjoy your washouts.

>Can you really argue these points as an AKB faggot?
Iiwake Maybe had no handshake events, no incentive for fans and they started their TV promotion only a week and a half after the day of release.
It sold 105k copies in two weeks.
Whine more.

>They are notorious for gimmicks and tricks to sell CD's.
If a "gimmick" proves successful then more power to them. What about Morning Musume's? Oh wait, nevermind...

>So pumping out tons of shit
This is pretty much what Tsunku has been doing when he realized his group had no pull whatsover. Glutting the market with thousands of low selling sub-units that had no appeal to the masses.
Does anyone really care about Kids? S/Mileage?
What about Buono? Must I remember you that those faggots at Stockholm banked so much on their popularity for the success of their convention that they had to cancel it altogether due to low ticket sales? LOL.
I say, thank fucking goodness for competition. You know what happens when someone who doesn't know how to run a business to save his life hold the monopoly? Atari and 1984 should ring you a bell.

>And also, cool army of girls to cycle through once the one month interest burns off. They can just be put on Team K for a few months.
It sure is misinformation around here. Then again, we are in a Morning Musume thread. Ignorance is a requirement.

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>>3463982
>Not sure what exactly you are referring to
Just a general lack of dedication, lots of self-proclaimed "hardcore" H!P fans/wota getting into k-pop and AKB and whatnot. I guess if that's how they want to play the idol game, so be it, but I'm not going to stick around in a community that betrays the very girls it's supposedly centered around. Although the bloggers seem more prone to slut their support all over than the forum fags from what I know...but that doesn't change the fact that every H!P forum I've ever looked at has been overgrown with faggots.

And...switching up the Reina for a bit. Nothing wrong with her, but I'm an Aichan guy.

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>> No.3464147

>>3463910
>LOL
>>3464068
>LOL
>LOL
>talking about Kids
I think you're getting ahead of yourself, faggot, stay on track, and calm down. If you want to talk about Kids, you're in the wrong place.

>> No.3464158

>>3464115

>Just a general lack of dedication, lots of self-proclaimed "hardcore" H!P fans/wota getting into k-pop and AKB and whatnot.

So, let me get this straight: if I buy two or three consoles instead of sticking with one and bitching about all the rest without any knowledge of what I'm blabbering about I should be considered less of a hardcore gamer?
God, you manbabies keep hitting new lows every day.

>> No.3464213

>>3464068
>no incentive for fans and they started their TV promotion only a week and a half after the day of release.
Sure is misinformation around here...
>If a "gimmick" proves successful then more power to them.
Not surprised that anything goes attitude is accepted coming from an AKB faggot. It'll only be a matter of time before the hardcore troll fans implode on themselves.

>Glutting the market with thousands of low selling sub-units
Yea, like Pucchi Moni and W which have sold more singles than the combined history of AKb
Also, don't confuse our thread with a H!P thread faggot. If you think that boybands are better for the market you can just jump off a bridge right now.

>>3464127
Oh cool little document you typed up there, as if Japan hasn't copied the successes of the past. This is a music industry not a patent industry dumb fuck.

>I say, thank fucking goodness for competition.
This the only meaningful point from your entire post, but what you bring isn't competition, you bring trollery, tricks, and a lamprey mentality.

>> No.3464230

>>3464127
>together 2 years
>fucking 80s
You're worse than the "golden gen" old fags, and even worse than "AKB vs. MM" shit, no one wants to hear your old man cries.

>> No.3464234

>>3464147

>Boohooooo, why is my group so unpopular? NOBODY deserves to be popular but them, God said it. Whinewhinewhine bitchbitchbitch

Listen, I can't give a flying fuck about this worthless discussion, and replying to your rants are a serious waste of time to me.
That AKB is way more popular than everything H!P has shat out in the last years is a matter of record and numbers speak volumes. Singling out this or that practice just because it did work for them whereas MM failed to draw any results when they tried mirroring it just makes you come across as more of a sore hypocrite than you already sound like, especially when Tsunku is the prime offender.

Bottom line is, Morning Musume stopped being the shit five years ago. Or better yet, the dropped the "the" afterwards.
Today Japan has found a new favorite.
Deal with it.

>> No.3464245

>>3464158
>if I buy two or three consoles instead of sticking with one and bitching about all the rest
You AKB faggots created that atmosphere for fuck's sake. Preying off the anger of disillusioned ex-H!P fans and turning it against their former idol groups.
As I've stated before, I would of been more interested in these other groups but faggots like the trolls have ruined that.
If you love AKB so much, start a AKB thread and talk about the merits there, not here not in our threads, not in Musume 2ch threads, not across the entire fucking landscape. You are living all over us.

>> No.3464246

>>3464234
>Superiority complex

>> No.3464286

>>3464127
>Morning Woodsume
>token half-Japanese (Mika Todd)
??

>> No.3464301

>>3464213

>Not surprised that anything goes attitude is accepted coming from an AKB faggot. It'll only be a matter of time before the hardcore troll fans implode on themselves.

Again, crying because the 5000 version ploy, the whole "let's outsell Ayumi Hamasaki" (what for?) bullshit and exploiting former Musumes didn't translate into huge sales. How much you want to bet that you wouldn't be here talking shit about other groups for being more popular, had it yielded the expected results? Poor, poor bittern fan.
Funny how one year and a half ago sales were a non-issue for you until someone overshadowed you. It must feel really bad laughing on the other side of your face.

>This is a music industry not a patent industry dumb fuck.
"People are 'copying' (LOL) MM, BAWWWW!"
"Oh, wait... MM copied Onyanko Club? Well, I guess plagiarism is fine, I guess."
How the fuck am I supposed to discuss with someone who keeps retailoring his stance to the point of contraddicting himself whenever I pick holes in his arguments?

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>>3464234
Oh, I think you mistook me for the other anon, faggot.

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>>3464301
>Again, crying because the 5000 version ploy
Implying that grassroot campaigns are ploys

>sales were a non-issue for you until someone overshadowed you.
Wrong, sales were a non issue until new blood flooded in and realized what was happening.

>(LOL) MM, BAWWWW!"
You're right, how can I discuss this with someone like this.

>> No.3464341

>>3464245

Please be noted that it was you who labeled me a AKB fan and started casting aspersions on the group in hopes I would just shut up all the while you patted yourself on your back for your clever move. You brought it on yourself, if you can't take it like a man just don't raise a stink in the first place, moron.

>> No.3464355

>>3464301
>the whole "let's outsell Ayumi Hamasaki" (what for?) bullshit and exploiting former Musumes didn't translate into huge sales.
Implying that grassroot campaigns are ploys. And its funny how despise the OG's so much, too bad AKB doesn't have any esteemed history just years of troll building.

>sales were a non-issue for you until someone overshadowed you.
Wrong, sales were a non issue until new blood flooded in and realized what was happening.

>(LOL) MM, BAWWWW!"
You're right, how can I discuss this with someone like this.

>> No.3464383

>>3464355

>too bad AKB doesn't have any esteemed history

If you want to live in 2001 just build yourself a time machine and stay there, you won't be missed.
Times change. History means shit if you can't live up to it.

>> No.3464429

>>3464301
>Oh, wait... MM copied Onyanko Club? Well, I guess plagiarism is fine, I guess
Eh.. didn't Akimoto create both AKB and onyanko? He's pretty much recycling onyanko, just without the creey 80s bodies with the 80s hair.
It's like Ken Akamatsu with Love Hina and Negima, but this not a place for that.
Quit typing before you bust a vein or pop your appendix, you're making yourself out worse than island fag.

>> No.3464453

>>3464245

>Preying off the anger of disillusioned ex-H!P fans and turning it against their former idol groups.

It strikes me that you are unaware that sane people don't sign blood oaths with faceless corporations pledging to remain loyal to them until the end of their days. But don't worry, I feel you.

I see people buying a Sonic game after another no matter how shitty the series has become, just because after playing it on Genesis they couldn't allow themselves to abandon it. I see people buying every one of Tom Clancy's sleep-inducing doorstoppers because they thought they were the shit back when they were 15. You Morning Musume zealots must be their JPop equivalent.

>> No.3464516 [DELETED] 

>>3464453
>It strikes me that you are unaware that sane people don't sign blood oaths
Implying that we aren't allowed to exhibit any sort of brand loyalty.
And don't even try to start a console war argument in here faggot. Japan will buy playstations forever.
>blood oaths
If the AKB trolls didn't play so dirty it wouldn't be offensive to try the other idol groups. And to a high degree they are in no ways responsible to what tactics are carried out on forums across the internet. But how can you stand next to someone who wants to see harm to your waifu.

>> No.3464529

>>3464453
>It strikes me that you are unaware that sane people don't sign blood oaths
Implying that we aren't allowed to exhibit any sort of brand loyalty.
And don't even try to start a console war argument in here faggot. Japan will buy playstations forever.
>blood oaths
If the AKB trolls didn't play so dirty it wouldn't be offensive to try the other idol groups. And to a high degree the idol groups are in no ways responsible to what tactics are carried out on forums across the internet. But how can you stand next to someone who wants to see harm to your waifu and gang up on certain Musume member fans.

>> No.3464532

>>3464429

And he's also the guy behind Utaban.
How ironic. Morning Musume's role model (Onyanko Club), springboard (Utaban) and worthy opponent (AKB48) are all the brainchild of the same person.
It's almost as if Akimoto is true Alpha and Omega of MM. Why don't you take some time from your rants to thank him for both inspiring and putting them of their misery?

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>>3464158
I'm of the opinion that being a wota is about dedication and support for a certain idol, idol group or idol company. If the undedicated people I talked about were never into H!P in the first place, then I'd have little reason to disassociate myself from them. But they started out supporting H!P idols, and now they're supporting idols from all kinds of other places (or vice versa...the point isn't dedication to H!P, the point is dedication to one idol group - I just happened to first have my heart stolen by H!P idols, and that's where it's going to stay). It's a completely ignorant, careless, hypocritical approach to being a wota, and it pisses me off...so here I am on /jp/, where it seems that most of the wota actually know what's up.

Games, on the other hand, are simply a media form. They're not idols, they have no feelings, they have no need for a fan's exclusive continued support. The console wars are completely irrelevant to what these threads are about, so keep it out of them.

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>>3464529

>Japan will buy playstations forever.

I beg to differ, even in Japan Wii both dwarfs RROD360 and POS3 in sales.

>> No.3464564

>>3464529

>Japan will buy playstations forever.

I beg to differ, even in Japan Wii dwarfs both RROD360 and POS3 in sales.

>> No.3464678

>>3464540

Would you please head back to where you crawled from?

See, faggots, that's one thing I'll never wrap my head around: people refusing to widen their horizons out of fear of the unknown but at the same time slinging mud at what they profess themselves against, always out of fear of the unknown.
I can understand why more sophisticated fandoms do this.
Buying a console needs money and beating a game takes time, so it's much easier insinuating sweeping generalization.
Reading a book or watching a film take hours to fully appreciate them, so aping someone else's opinion would do.
But you faggots have no reason for restricting yourselves. Listening to a song is 4 minutes, watching a program is 25 at most.
Either say right off the bat you are entrenched in your ignorance and don't wish to carry the debate further or make sure not to embarrass yourselves by acting like a chicken with its head cut off.

>> No.3464724 [DELETED] 

>>3464529

>Implying that we aren't allowed to exhibit any sort of brand loyalty.

If this discussion has proven something, it's that your so called brand loyalty tends to get in the way of correct reasoning, then you are better off just keeping your opinions to yourself.

Oh, and I had a good laugh at your assumption that people like AKB just to troll you. Poor thing is starting to lose his touch with reality, it seems.

>> No.3464749

>>3464529

>Implying that we aren't allowed to exhibit any sort of brand loyalty.

If this discussion has proven something, it's that if your so called brand loyalty tends to get in the way of correct reasoning, then you are better off just keeping your opinions to yourself.

Oh, and I had a good laugh at your assumption that people like AKB just to troll you. Poor thing is starting to lose his touch with reality, it seems.

>> No.3464793

>>3464678
>But you faggots have no reason for restricting yourselves
Cool walking into a room with absolutely no knowledge of the real arguments.
>entrenched in your ignorance
Ironic statement coming from a console arguer.

>>3464724
Cool putting words into my mouth, and if you don't think AKB fans don't spend a disproportionate amount of time trolling relative to Musume fans then explain your constant troll presence here.

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>>3464859
I was thinking the same thing, you know whats funny
is that some of the Akb girls are kids fans and Ai-chan was talking about seeing a play with Maeda in it after she saw her in Shape up.

>> No.3464992 [DELETED] 

>>3464793

>Cries and bitches and calls others trolls.

It seems to me that the subject of the discussion has finally been reduced to what you want: sad namecalling. As such, it's safe to assume that this whole charade of a debate was just a cheap excuse for you to throw childish fits at idol group you arguably know very little about.
In the light of this, I don't think we have anything else to say to each other at this point. If you don't mind I'm leaving this cesspool of a thread at once.

>> No.3465009

>>3464793

>Cries and bitches and calls others trolls.

It seems to me that the subject of the discussion has finally been reduced to what you wanted all along: sad namecalling. And as such, it's safe to assume that this whole farce was just a cheap excuse for you to throw childish fits at an idol group you arguably know very little about.
In the light of this, I don't think we have anything else to say to each other at this point. If you don't mind I'm leaving this cesspool of a thread at once.

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Oooh, a bit of console wars to spice up your guys' never ending argument... fascinating.

>> No.3465024 [DELETED] 

>>3462928
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
I know who you are. I saw you in school. :)

>> No.3465048

>>3465009
Yea, lol, taking a dignified leave approach.

>bit of console wars
Wasn't expecting that to happen but people have been wondering into our arguments more and more lately.

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Seems like I always manage to sleep through shit like this. Thread was a still a great read. Bringing in the console wars into idoldom made for some good laughs.

>> No.3465284 [DELETED] 

The point is that Morning Musume is a dying breed and needs to be put out of its misery as soon as possible before it can cause further harm. I can't stress this enough: when I see whatever H!P has done once the popularity started plummeting really fast I can't help comparing it with Atari bringing about the videogame crash in 1983, in that they both ruined the market for everyone with their dying grabs for attention.
Seriously, Tsunku needed to be kicked in the ass all the way to the nearest Marketing 101 class for that.
If people are growing more and more uninterested in your group just give up every grandiose bullshit you are planning and stick to the meat and potatoes, you don't want to glut the market with unpopular spinoffs at a faster until you run out of steam.
Good thing only H!P fell victim to its own strategy and AKB48 and some lesser acts managed to rise from this mess, but it doesn't change that Tsunku's actions irreparably ruined the genre's image and closed the door to many other groups.
Fans may trick themselves into believing that their group is still relevant by artificially inflating sales, but you can go only so far before low viewer ratings of their show and concert halls half-empty pop your bubble.

>> No.3465286 [DELETED] 

>>3465284

Also, Japanese conception of MM ≠ 2ch obsessed shut-ins (and by proxy Western) conception. Indeed, it's rather funny to see how their fans' reaction when they feel threatened by other groups is trying to shoot them down by calling them appealing only to creepy old men / rabid fangirls. Funny because that's exactly the definition that Japan gives to Morning Musume.
But you can't blame them, can you? After all what else can they think of a group that founds its business on low-selling singles and gravure photobooks? Unless they try really fucking hard to find them somewhere else, that's just the two media they see they have a somewhat lasting presence in.
On top of that, through the years they have also long become a subject of social humor there. I can name at least two popular shows featuring a socially-awkward buffoon obsessed with Buono! or Morning Musume as their token laughing stock.

>> No.3465306

>>3465284
>>3465286
Cool copy and paste from 2 threads ago
reported

>> No.3465307

Can we move on already? Im sick of your propaganda arashi troll or whoever you are now

>> No.3465322 [DELETED] 

>>3465307

Yeah, we all know that H!P fanboys don't want to hear a word against their idol group or else they would be waken up from their fairy tale world. Thank you for lending even more credence to my argument.
How come I don't find weird at all that Western fans are the most opinionated and deluded of all? Oh yeah, because you must be that far removed from the market of origin to stay so ignorant of what's the actual social standing of the target of their obsession as well as who are the actual major players on the scene.
In retrospect, they are doing a wise move to bring half of the business overseas. Only American weeaboos are so much behind the times (say, 5 years back) to belive MM is still something Japanese go head over heels for, and if they play their cards right there's a chance they'll buy their bullshit wholesale.
Their appearance at AX had "scraping the bottom of the barrel" written all over it, after all.

>> No.3465334

>>3465322
y u care so much

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>>3465227
I haven't seen you for a while, I take it you probably got your album by now.

>> No.3465339

>>3465334

U MAD

>> No.3465341

>>3465322
Not even going to bother to read whatever trash you posted.

The point is I don't like Morning Musume because they're doing better or worse then AKB48 or any other idol group. I like MM because I enjoy their music. Simple as that. I know you don't care, or honestly believe you're going to change our minds but thats okay, because we don't care either.

So go away now.

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>>3465306
It's copy/paste anon, when his copy pasta was found in H!O, he ended up deleted his posts, how sad.

>> No.3465348

>>3465339
why would i be mad?

>> No.3465357

>>3465348

Cuz MM sell like shite

>> No.3465378

>>3465341
The report button bro, use it.

>> No.3465382

>>3465357
yeah but why would i be mad...

you aren't using any coherent logic

>> No.3465384

>>3465347
>when his copy pasta was found in H!O
What was the name of the poster?

>> No.3465387

>>3465382
He ran out of things to copy/paste, so now he's attempting originality.

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>>3465341

Yo man, don't act so tsundere and aloof, especially right having railed for several hours against a group just because the thought that it sell more and is overall more prominent doesn't sit well with you.

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>>3465341

Yo man, don't act so tsundere and aloof, especially right after having railed for several hours against a rival group just because the thought that it sell more and is overall more prominent doesn't sit well with you.

>> No.3465432 [DELETED] 

>>3465322
>Only American weeaboos are so much behind the times
Absolutely hilarious, considering all the American bands I have seen that carry Japanese audiences well decades after they have long faded in America. Its even funnier when you attempt to play the Racial Superiority card when it comes with idol industry!

The real issue at hand is the mobilization and refueling of Musume. If it was such a pathetic move then why are we seeing troll shockwaves reach our shores even here. What these idol trolls want is a calculated Japanese industry in which they can just cut ties and scoff at all their stars from just 5 years ago. This happens across the entire music industry.
And to assume that we here are aligned with robotic viewpoint of the majority of the Japanese you'd have to fucking braindead. Japanese faggots go head over heels for faggot boy bands and boys that look like girls.
>Their appearance at AX had "scraping the bottom of the barrel" written all over it
You call it bottom of barrel but you don't even realize that half to all of the shit that cycles through the Japanese music industry today won't even see the light of day internationally.
People can tell what they like and you can't dictate how they think or feel about Musume. And you certainly can't apply the groupthink used in Japan.

>> No.3465467 [DELETED] 

>>3465422
>Irrelevant nonsense
Ahh, just as I suspected.

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>>3465384
No name, he copy pasta'd other H!O faggots that were having a "discussion", and copied that shit to here.

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>>3465467

Sorry for being so straightforward.

>> No.3465527 [DELETED] 

>>3465510
It's quite alright. I only wish you had more than that one point to be straightforward about...

>> No.3465534 [DELETED] 

>>3465510
Reported for offtopic

>> No.3465563 [DELETED] 

>>3465510
gook

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>>3465563

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>>3465322
aaaah Kirari reference

>> No.3465581

>>3465576

It's like Popeye, except with tits.

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>>3465575
why so corean?
Also, she's really just aimed for a corean audience like the chinks

>> No.3465603

>>3465591

Go back to http://www.livestream.com/hpkids

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>>3464678
kusumi kusumi
kusumi kusumi
kusumi kusumi
kusumi kusumi

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>>3465603
nice try son, but i've been in these threads for long time

>> No.3465626

oh btw, i really find it funny that the akb fag is the one responding to his own rants

>> No.3465633

>>3465626
His arguments only work if they are controlled through his tunnel vision

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>>3465613

Whatever, just don't pride yourself on it so much.

>> No.3465653

>>3465626

Sore butts all year round.

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>>3465606

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>>3465633

So, how about them Moaning Moosomay?

>> No.3465688 [DELETED] 

>>3465661
reported for child pornography

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Why are you all trolling each other, wanna get eaten?

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>>3465338
....No. No I haven't. It's been two weeks now. Assholes. Might show up in the morning however!
Fingers crossed!! Hahaha...haha...ha...........ha.

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Quality increase!

>> No.3465740

>>3465737
in la doing what now?

>> No.3465743 [DELETED] 

>>3465688

Retarded for posting in a Morning Musume thread.

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>>3465743
>implying other /jp/ threads have higher integrity

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>>3465740
Finding like minded people
http://gree.jp/kago_ai/blog/

>> No.3465775 [DELETED] 

>>3465764
They used to faggot.

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>>3465764

Frankly, I don't give a fuck.

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>>3465740

She never mentions that. She's just talking about food and stuff.

>> No.3465819

>>3465805
If Kago is pulling in 14 million blog hits then
what is Tsuji doing?

>> No.3465836

>>3465819

>Implying Tsuji does something.

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>>3465836
I meant in blog hits silly anon

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>>3465881

>Implying getting blog hits is an accomplishment.

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>>3465881
I'm not the Anon you're replying to, but she's doing fine.

>12,866,275 visits in 58 days, an average of 221,832 hits per day, 68,472 people on her friends list, and at the minute is the second ranked GREE blog

>> No.3465969

>>3465939
Pretty impressive numbers, but I was asking for Tsuji's numbers for comparison.

>> No.3465977

>>3465881
ruuuuun ai-chan, run for your life!!!!

>> No.3466052

>>3465969
Hopefully someone else can help you out with that, because I don't know. But she was No.1 on ameblo, and that is definitely more important than GREE, but I don't know any numbers for that.

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>>3465914
>>implying we actually read green text

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>>3466052
Fair enough, I remember hearing that Mari had gotten a million hits in one day, obviously they aren't all unique visitors but its still mind boggling. They really love their blogging.

Speaking of Tsuji, that London Hearts appearance should be interesting. Guess it was postponed a bit.
Still have to watch that subbed one from the other day.

>> No.3466285

>>3465836
she does blogs and i think she just dumped her kid off to her mom

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>>3466241
>Still have to watch that subbed one from the other day.
You should, great watch.

>> No.3466422

>>3466371
That's the kind of girl that's still embarrassed to talk about sex when guys are around at age 25, but who will pester her boyfriend for more and more sex until he can barely stand it.

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>>3466371
Seems she lost some of her piggy weight recently

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>>3466435
Delicious sow.

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>>3466422
>That's the kind of girl that's still embarrassed to talk about sex
Yea definitely
>but who will pester her boyfriend for more and more sex
>boyfriend
wat, although she probably isn't a virgin, she doesn't have a boyfriend.

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>>3466455
Best Shige wink

>> No.3466492

>>3466464
That must be really frustrating. I'll bet she has a one night stand at least once a week, and every time she travels.

>> No.3466566

she has her manager to deal with that stuff

>> No.3466576

>>3466492
>That must be really frustrating
Thats part of the H!P rulebook, no boyfriends and no fucking around. I'm not so naive to think she has been banged but at the same time Shige is surprisingly very reliable and buys into the idol image 100% so I wouldn't put it past her to stay a squeaky clean virgin.

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Kimagure Princess Single Info
http://www.helloproject.com/discography/musume/s_045.html

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For a second I thought it was just another random youtube link from 2ch but then looking closer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKHkTzSANo

Its the fake Reina girl! AV-expert get to work!

>> No.3466962

>>3462930

ew

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>>3466962
Hmm?

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>>3466962

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>>3467205
>>3467194
Piggy

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>>3467226

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Speaking of console faggotry, just watched the FFXIII trailer,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfl36IiYkJo

wow the Maki character reminds me of her so much, also the CG's looking so ridiculous, mouth movements and facial expressions so good. Releasing 8 days before Christmas supposedly, but we know things go with Squareenix.

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G'Night /jp/, Sweet Reina dreams

>> No.3467552 [DELETED] 

>>3467357
tack on +9 months for the NA release, they will never get it out in time for xbawks and ps3 in spring.

>> No.3467561 [DELETED] 

>>3467357
tack on +9 months for the NA release, they will never get it out in time for xbawks and ps3 in spring.

also, if you want ti in higher res.....
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/ff13/FF13_Trailer_ct-a_3m.f4v

>> No.3467564

>>3467357
tack on +9 months for the NA release, they will never get it out in time for xbawks and ps3 in spring.

also, if you want it in higher res.....
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/ff13/FF13_Trailer_ct-a_3m.f4v

>> No.3467617

>>3467564
There is a chance that they don't actually use English voices and just use subtitles.
I would hurt the games appeal to casual fags but it certainly would make more sense in terms of a timely release and ease of porting, not to mention it would suffer the GodZilla dubbed movie effect.

>> No.3467618

>>3467357
some say Maki, some say Yaguchi.....

>> No.3467640

>>3467618
No way, the girl is tall, lanky, has a huge chest, and the facial structure and expressions similar to Maki.

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>>3467617
comon get realistic, square has already dubbed most of the trailers into english. They are still under the impression that all americans hate japanese culture and they have to "americanize" absolutely everything they sell in america for it to sell.

I wouldn't be surprised if they leave the japanese voice track out too. In an interview when the question was asked if there will be the jp voice track in the NA version, they replied that they didn't think that anyone would want it.

<--- taken from yagucam

/offtopic

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>>3467357
Wow, that's like xii, with x drama, with xii graphics and themes on steroids.
Also, wasn't there a yahoo article or some other Japanese news thing that said that Mari looked somewhat like that chick? Lucy is it? Enix is losing originality in names now, Sazz, Lightning, Hoff, Vanilla (from what I can make out from the dialogue and text), looking forward to it though.

Well, I'm off to bed, goodnight /jp/, sweet dreams.

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>> No.3468923 [DELETED] 

>>3465432

I can very well call the pathetic show they put up at AX like that because that's exactly what it was, by virtue of when and on the wake of what events they decided to hastily plan it.
If you think otherwise, then please riddle me this: what would be a more sensible choice for a group that wants to impress its ignorant overseas fans by billing itself "latest sensation" or "everybody's favorite" (and as a side note, just the thought that as of 2009 they still persist in keeping up this pretense seriously makes me laugh)?
Holding a concert overseas when their supremacy in Japan had been cemented and the only concern left is to raise awareness abroad? Or when the Japanese fanbase has thinned to a few militant zealots, every other group on the domestic market is taking turns to shit on you and you have no other choice but to reach out to the part of fanbase you always snubbed out of desperation?
That's what I'm calling "scraping the bottom of the barrell".
Most foreign fans have been completely neglected up until now because they never represented an appreciable source of income, but when money is so tight they had no choice but to branch out (and I'm not just talking about America here, either!). But, hey, Tsunku's hair dye doesn't pay for itself.

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I love it how the trolls keep on talking as if we care how popular Momusu is in Japan.

Also, waifu

>> No.3469061 [DELETED] 

>>3465432

I can very well call the pathetic show they put up at AX like that because that's exactly what it was, by virtue of when and on the wake of what events they decided to hastily plan it.
If you think otherwise, then please riddle me this: what would be a more sensible choice for a group that wants to impress its ignorant overseas fans by billing itself "latest sensation" or "everybody's favorite" (and as a side note, just the thought that as of 2009 they still persist in keeping up this pretense seriously makes me laugh)?
Holding a concert overseas when their supremacy in Japan had been cemented and the only concern left is to raise awareness abroad? Or when the Japanese fanbase has thinned to a few militant zealots, every other group on the domestic market is taking turns to shit on you and you have no other choice but to reach out to the part of fanbase you always snubbed out of desperation?
That's what I'm calling "scraping the bottom of the barrell".
Most foreign fans have been completely neglected up until now because they never represented an appreciable source of income, but when money is so tight they had no choice but to branch out (and I'm not just talking about America here, either!). But, hey, Tsunku's hair dye doesn't pay for itself.

>> No.3469069 [DELETED] 

>>3469052

I love how you try to act lofty and removed but when you find out somebody has beaten you at your own game you go into a tizzy raving about only Morning Musume has a legitimate place in the idol industry, whatever it may be (bottom of the food chain, maybe?).
Playing it cool much?

>> No.3469075 [DELETED] 

>>3469052

I love how you try to acting all lofty and removed but when you find out somebody has beaten you at your own game you go into a tizzy raving about how only Morning Musume has a legitimate place in the idol industry, whatever it may be (bottom of the food chain, maybe?).
Playing it cool much?

>> No.3469088

>>3469052

I love how you try to acting all lofty and removed but when you find out somebody has beaten you at your own game you go into a tizzy raving about how only Morning Musume has a legitimate place in the idol industry, whatever it may be (bottom of the food chain, maybe?).
Playing it cool much?

>> No.3469095

I can very well call the pathetic show they put up at AX like that because that's exactly what it was, by virtue of when and on the wake of what events they decided to hastily plan it.
If you think otherwise, then please riddle me this: what would be a more sensible choice for a group that wants to impress its ignorant overseas fans by billing itself "latest sensation" or "everybody's favorite" (and as a side note, just the thought that as of 2009 they still persist in keeping up this pretense seriously makes me laugh)?
Holding a concert overseas when their supremacy in Japan had been cemented and the only concern left is to raise awareness abroad? Or when the Japanese fanbase has thinned to a few militant zealots, every other group on the domestic market is taking turns to shit on you and you have no other choice but to reach out to the part of fanbase you always snubbed out of desperation?
That's what I'm calling "scraping the bottom of the barrell".
Most foreign fans have been completely neglected up until now because they never represented an appreciable source of income, but when money is so tight they had no choice but to branch out (and I'm not just talking about America here, either!). But, hey, Tsunku's hair dye doesn't pay for itself.

>> No.3469122 [DELETED] 

By the way, their plane should have crashed once leaving LA and everyone aboard get killed on impact. It's not that people back in Japan would have missed them apart from stalkers and the Friday readership.

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>>3469213
Eri: AKBwota monster is scary like this.

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>>3469052
Popularity means everything to that fangirl.

Also, waifu

>> No.3469469
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Good morning /jp/

>> No.3469541 [DELETED] 

Do you guys ever do anything outside of eating your heart out over AKB?

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Some coffee this morning anon?

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Cool shirt

>> No.3469564

>>3469556

Germans are infamous for being responsible for the most atrocious crimes against umanity. I don't know what to make of it, but I'm not surprised in the least they decided to add supporting Morning Musume to the list.

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>>3469564
And the trolling continues?
Call in the maidos!

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>>3469635

Oh, look. It's Gaki-san.

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dat Reina
digital photobook

>> No.3469869

>>3469556
The heads of the Axis powers are weeping in their graves.

>> No.3469995

>>3469869
But Germany and Japan were allies

>> No.3470007

>>3469995
Old Germany and Old Japan.

>> No.3470016

>>3469995
I was thinking more along the lines of if they could see what their nations had become.

>> No.3470020

>>3470016
I would use pre WWI Germany and feudal Japan as better examples.

>> No.3470074

>>3470020
Ah, ok. I really don't know much about pre-WWI Germany.

Also, who is this guy? Just some H!O fag or something?

>> No.3470079

>>3462924
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
You are worse than Hitler.

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Koharu forever

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>>3470079
>>3470074
Protip: Most of our trolls are homebred

Also
Pre WWI Germany was pretty amazing, amazing engineers, philosophers, and physicists. Ask Nietzsche what he though about the brewing retarded Nationalism/Religious mindset that more than likely led to almost 100 million deaths in the 20th century. he renounced his language in his later works

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>>3470108
You mean 2 months?

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>> No.3470491
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PVは前作同様ダンスショットと2バージョンを編集したもの

Dance Shot Ver.
・セットは夜の砂漠風(荒野?)
・端四箇所に松明。たまに曲に合わせて炎が大きく燃え上がる演出。
・衣装はジャケと同様。

Close Up Ver. PRINCESS
・天井とカーテン付きのピンクのベッドにメンバーが寝そべって個別にリッ
プシンク。
・衣装は高橋亀井新垣光井が王女風。他は王子風。
・いずれもバストとヒップを強調したホワイトのセクシーなドレス。王女・
王子といっても男女差はミニスカと短パン、ティアラと斜め被りの王冠程
度。

Close Up Ver. SEXY
・Dance Shotと同様のセットで個別にリップシンク。
・下から見上げたショット
・衣装もDance Shotと同様だが帽子は全員被っていない。

その他備考
・本編PVにのみ序盤にOL風の亀井が絵本を手に取り読み始めるというシーン
有り。
・曲終了後に絵本を閉じた亀井が5秒程笑顔でカメラを見つめるシーン有り


Looks like I picked up the right versions, Close Up Sexy, oh yes.

>> No.3470596

>>3470491
Is this saying what comes on the dvd's with the different LEs?

>> No.3470619

>>3470596
>individual members lying in bed with pink curtains and the ceiling.
Yep, it is describing each of the versions and general comments about the PV.
Now I'm thinking I should of went B instead of A but I really wonder what the dance is going to look like for this single.

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Entrancing Presence

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>>3470155
Only from Hello! Project... which has been falling apart anyway these days.

Koharu > Reina

>> No.3470827

>>3470770
Kusumi Koharu Photobook Sugar Doll making
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjdNQY3F_HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOHk8IRQRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwQ4NC1BVH0

Even with a delusional response I'll give you a treat.

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Or you could get an upscaled version off the tracker...

>> No.3470876

Hellostore opens tomorrow~

>> No.3470896

>>3470876
I wish I had the money to splurge right now. I might still get a photo set or two depending on what they have.

>> No.3470962

>>3470876
Open's midnight actually, at 12:01.

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>>3470827
Haha yeah I saw all of those posted on the H!O forums. Good stuff...

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>>3470962
Pacific time that is.
>>3470896
I'm just going to take the hit anyways, I think somethings may not appear again after the first week.

>> No.3471053

http://talk.rachaelraymag.com/members/Real-Estate-Mutual-Funds/default.aspx; Real Estate Mutual Funds http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php?/user/13826-real-estate-mutual-funds; Real Estate Mutual Funds http://confluence.public.thoughtworks.org/display/~real+estate+mutual+funds+-+online+stock+trading; Real Estate Mutual Funds
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/member.php?u=243610 , Online Stock Trading

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>>3471053
Wow, thats a first..

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>> No.3471089

>>3471053
Interesting...

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かわいい~~~~

>> No.3471494

>>3471084
delicious

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I'm guessing the new PV is going to pop up any day now.
Maybe even tomorrow

>> No.3471617

mickey mouse, mickey mouse, mickey mickey mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7kUCvPRDnk&fmt=18

>> No.3471639

If Morning Musume is so popular, how come I don't see a six figures sales number in almost six years?
Even Idoling has more appeal than these glorified (by their fans, that is, since they're as good as dead for the rest of Japan) bitches.

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>>3471639
cool story bro

>>3471224
symmetrical docking?

>> No.3471785

>>3471774

You didn't answer my question. Even Idoling is more enterprising than you scandal queens and stalker preys, and they are certainly not at the top of the idol pyramid nor are they any closer to get to it anytime soon. And you wonder why Japan can't give two shits about them anymore, more so now than ever after they stopped being the only game in town.

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Wait...wat?

>> No.3471797

>>3471785
HURR DURRR

>> No.3471807

>>3471797

If you are just too mentally retarded to tackle an argument you might as well go back to the Kids channel on Mogulus, you know. I heard they love watching the same videos every day and throw braindead remarks at them.

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>>3471807

>> No.3471841

>>3471836

I wouldn't trust myself to eat any of that foodstuff. She might have touched it and therefore it could be infected with STDs she got from fucking that porn producer of twice her age.

>> No.3471849

>>3471841

To a lesser extent, I also hate chain smokers and people whose notoriousness ride on scandals because they have no merits of their own.

>> No.3471853

>>3471841
>>3471807
>>3471785
>>3471639
Reported

>> No.3471856

>>3471853

For what, starting a discussion rather than pic spamming?

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>>3471617
Why they disrespect donald duck
also the bass is bumpin in that song

>> No.3471872

>>3471853
reported

>> No.3471873

>>3471836
Does Kago speak english?

>> No.3471880

>>3462925
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anertalk.com/ (aner = anon) last night.
Have you tried Google?

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>>3471856
>a discussion
>regurgitated troll insults

>> No.3471893

Oh, another thing I love about Morning Musume is that they are basically slaves of the corporation they gave their bodies and souls to.
But you know what's the real icing on this cake made out of manure? That they don't even have any freedom of choosing their own hairstyle. Even the decision of settling on a certain one must first be reviewed and approved by the fat cats tending to them, when it isn't dictated straight from the top. You guys make me fucking laugh when you talk about personality and shit like that, completely ignorant that they are just constructs of people who have their sights set just on making money off them.

>> No.3471897

>>3471873

Is Kago not a whore jumping from one cock to the next?

>> No.3471905

>>3471872
reported reported with a report

>> No.3471907

>>3471873
i'm not sure. i know that she already was in america before and that she bought a dvd over there and watched it alot in japan. i don't think that there are japanese subs or dubs on american DVDs...
so i guess she does speak english, at least a bit.

>> No.3471943

>>3471881
you're correct, but it's still greentext

>> No.3471958

>>3471893
>I'm a 14 year old feminist who actually believes that bull dykes in California can dictate how women are treated throughout the world.
Enjoy learning the reality of the world in your entry level position for the next decade. And the last time I checked its an entertainment industry.

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Man dark Sayu has a sharp tongue. The part about the Musume fans telling Aoki to drop dead when they said Sayu wasn't cute on Music Fighter was hilarious.
But what the hell was that rant about going beyond Ayaya and becoming the next Musume leader, clearly she is a little delusional.

>> No.3472050

>>3472030
Goodness, musume leader?
Why don't you read the latest news.

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>>3471873
Not really, she studied it for some time but she said it's hard to remember if you don't need it.

>> No.3472075

>>3466285

TRAGIC BOY

>> No.3472081

>>3472074
Kago is mai waifu. :3
Why can't all musumes be like her.

>> No.3472086

>>3472081
I wonder if there will be any Kago goods at the hellostore...

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>>3472030
lol, I just finished that. Sayu's pretty quick witted. I hope they sub the next one she's on with tsuji quickly

>> No.3472120

>>3472081
>>3472086
You must be joking.

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A little over 3 hours before Hello store opens, pretty curious how much they'll sell, I'd love to get some old school shit.

>> No.3472146

>>3471958

Sorry, but only H!P does this shit.

>> No.3472241

>>3472144
Is anon going to be f5ing with credit card in hand? Just like me?

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>>3472144
>A little over 3 hours before Hello store opens
Actually its 4 hours no matter where you are from.
>I'd love to get some old school shit.
It looks like they had some of the old posters and stuff, I am also looking forward to the spread.

>>3472146
Only in your mind it is, do some homework and research Japan, its part of the reason why there is such a low birth rate.

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>>3472241
>with credit card in hand?
I'm really interested in what the interface is going to look like, I hope they didn't just throw the site together. But it seems like they spent a lot of time on it.

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>UFA has not offered us any Maki Goto goods, so most likely they are completely sold out.
Sorry Maki fag, although I'm not sure if they would ship to your country anyways, but if you are in Europe I don't see why not.
Also
Glad to find out they offer paypal which always makes things easier.

>> No.3472394

>>3472146
Yeah. I agree.
I just saw the words "musume family glorious" on nippon tv and nearly puked.

>> No.3472400

>>3472259
I still think they're bad by products of Japan though.
What a bad student you are. See me after this lecture for being defiant to Japanese professor.

>> No.3472420

>>3472400
Are you a sexy professor lady?

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>>3472259
>Actually its 4 hours
Ah, I was a hour ahead, had other things to do, only glimpsed in the zones. Well it's about 3 hours soon, not happy that I won't be able to stay up for it.
>>3472376
Miki's fucking great in DVD Mag. 7, still gotta finish watching that though. And if you find Miki's Alo-Hello in youtube, give it a watch.

>> No.3472427

>>3472420
I'm half corean guy. That girl looks corean too. :3

>> No.3472440

>>3472424
Miki doesn't fucking. Don't lie to me, she's still a virgin.

>> No.3472447

>>3472424
What is the length/progress/ETA?

>> No.3472463

>>3472424
>. And if you find Miki's Alo-Hello in youtube, give it a watch.
Will do

>>3472440
This

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>> No.3472474

>>3472424
>>3472463
If I like Lunia, DFO and Shin Megami Tensei Online, will I like this?

>> No.3472481

>>3472440
Bottom line is, Morning Musume stopped being the shit five years ago. Or better yet, the dropped the "the" afterwards.
Today Japan has found a new favorite.
Deal with it.

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>>3472481
Cool copy and paste...reported

Also

>10/01/2009 - 4chan turns 6 years old
Happy Birthday 4chan from the idol fags!!!

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>> No.3472590
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>>3472502
>Happy Birthday 4chan from the idol fags!!!
Oh, that's something to be proud of!
Happy Birthday 4chan.

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>>3472502
cheers!

>> No.3472697

>>3472502
Not my first birthday with 4chan, but my first in the idol threads, so it still works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aESbmrQQ3iw

Cheers!

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>>3472697
juicy Rika always desired

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>>3472697
Nice but no Satoda

>> No.3472826

ITT: SAME PATHETIC SAMEFAGGING

SUGGESTION: DO NOT CREATE ANOTHER SHITTY THREAD LIKES THIS.

>> No.3472844

>>3472826
>>THREAD LIKES THIS
>>LIKES THIS
>>LIKES

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>>3472826

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>>3472826
Love you too

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>>3472826
>Your reaction to this thread

>> No.3472930

>>3472909
Don't expand his limited imagination...

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>>3472909
ooh greentext

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>>3472972
Everyone get your fap hand ready.

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>> No.3472998

>>3472985
Back to the kids thread with you

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Oh, hi, guys.

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>>3473060
Hey, DAWA!!! How are you?

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>>3472952
>ooh greentext
Ah, don't mistake me for him, greentext belittles MM/Mitsui wota while trying his hardest to be funny. He's learning is fabulous tactics from Nihongogo.
gif unrelated.

>>3472985
>Everyone get your fap hand ready.
.

>> No.3473113

>>3473099
No regular would confuse you with him.
Also
Any suggestions on next OP? I'm pretty tired and am waiting to see what this store looks like before I sleep.

>> No.3473117

>>3472988
dem muscles

>> No.3473132

>>3473113
Gaki

>> No.3473159

>>3473132
Hmm interesting suggestion
what about some sort of group pose?

>> No.3473166

>>3473159
I'd be cool with that.

>> No.3473200

Store is open!

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>>3473200
waiting for www.helostoreusa.com ...lol
little server overload I suppose..

ooh Aya the witch visual book..

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Oh wow, now I see why those microfiber towels cost so much, the Abe one looks amazing.
Server is moving too slow I'm going to sleep, start the new thread once we autosageru

Goodnight /jp/

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Just placed my order, hell yeah

>> No.3473283

I guess I'll buy something after all~ Slow fucking load.

>> No.3473290

I am never going to have money again...

Question, what the hell is a muffler towel?

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>>3473230
I've got a few of them, they're actually decently useful, but they're still below par. A smaller towel that's twice as thick is better, but if you like working out/concerting with genuine H!P shit, this is for you.
Also note that the towels are very soft, not smooth like silk, just very soft.
The length of the micro fiber towels are also odd, it's mostly ment to go around you neck, with both sides being long and equal. It can be used as a banner as well, but it's pretty generic, best make your own banner than the towels.

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>>3473283
Leave, hellostoreusa also have kids gear, share that with them, they'd be more than happy.

>> No.3473332

>>3473319
Thanks anon!

>> No.3473398

someone start a new thread, image limit

>> No.3473407

pffffffft all the shit I want is out of stock

>> No.3473408

>>3473398
I've got a Maki one, hold on.

>> No.3473423

new haven
>>3473420

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