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No, they're copies.

If I save this image of Rider to my computer and permanently delete it, is it deleted from yours as well?

No.
The "soul" that is summoned into any time is a copy.

Imagine Rider as a book in a library. When she is summoned, a copy is made of the original, and that copy is the rider you would know. When the copy fades away, the culminated knowledge is recorded in the original as added memory.

>But, they're still souls. So, could you permanently kill a Servant with the eyes of Death Perception?

No. You're stabbing a simulacrum of the soul. To destroy the Heroic Spirit, you need to find and stab the Throne of Heroes.

Maybe possible for Void Ryougi, any others will either not see it or suffer head explosion.

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>>3466787
Excellent answer-mind.

>>3466787

No, that's only how it works for Counter Guardians. Ordinary Heroic Spirits don't know they've been summoned.

>>3466769
I wonder why is there so little artwork of Rider actually riding things.

>>3466797

Does this count?

>>3466795
Saber being a temporary exception because she was not dead when she was summoned, which is why she remembers Gilgamesh and Kiritsugu.

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>>3466795
Saber being a temporary exception because she was not dead when she was summoned, which is why she remembers Gilgamesh and Kiritsugu.

>>3466797

There's no reason that you wouldn't be able to effectively kill the copy's concept, as it is created and thus has an effective termination built in.

OP here, thanks for the clarification.

>>3466818

Killing the concept of a copy's existence?

That'd only work for Void Ryougi.

>>3466830
Killing the body composed of mana. Shiki cuts through Akiha's demonic will made manifest.

Not an enormous stretch.

>>3466844

Oh, killing the body of a Servant is quite possible, but summoning the same Heroic Spirit as a Servant again isn't negated that way.

Maybe just "not that class anymore" if the existence-stabbing works cosmically well.

>>3466850
This reminds me about something inane I've always wondered about.

What would happen if Shiki stabbed a point in the ground? Would that effectively kill the planet? Could he also, if he had enough accuracy to pinpoint it, kill the points of the air?

>>3466850
I doubt it.

I can't think of there being any good reason for the system to just create a new copy if it needed to.

>>3466859

His brain would explode before he could see the points of the planet itself.

>>3466859

>What would happen if Shiki stabbed a point in the ground? Would that effectively kill the planet?

"The Planet" is notoriously hard to kill. I'd imagine if he got anywhere close to its actual point of death then he would get smashed into powder by Primate Murder.
He can, however, kill chunks of the ground, which he does in Ciel's route to prevent Arc's world-linkup.

>Could he also, if he had enough accuracy to pinpoint it, kill the points of the air?

His eyes don't try to recognize them, as they're not developed enough. Satsujinki's eyes are believed to, though.
Ryougi probably could but she chooses what to "observe".

>>3466859
as far as I remember, he can see the lines on the air when he pushes himself to see Arcueid's death.

>>3466850
The spirit is gone for that war, at any rate. Killing the source is irrelevant.