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Byakuren is a wonderful woman.

>> No.3458907

Slut.

>> No.3458908

Traitor to her species.

>> No.3458916
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3458916

Shikieiki Yamaxanadu is beautiful, powerful, and just.

>> No.3458924

>>3458916
Whore.

>> No.3458927

>>3458916
You'd better stop posting pictures of my wife.

>> No.3458928

>>3458916
Corrupt and unfair.

>> No.3458929

>>3458916

Still, she is a flat midget compared to her underling.

>> No.3458931
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3458931

Marisa is a beautiful MASSSSSTAAAA SUUUPAAAAAAKU

>> No.3458932

mmmmmmm underlings...

>> No.3458933

>>3458901 Youkai Jesus
>>3458916 Youkai Pontius Pilate

>> No.3458936

>>3458929
I'd take short and flat over tall and fat any day.

>> No.3458941

I wonder if all the other Yama are female too, i wonder if the head Yama is female too, then God has to be female too?

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>>3458929
>flat compared to her underling

Goes under the heading "beautiful"

Komachi is a dirty, lazy sow

>> No.3458944

>>3458933
>>3458932
>>3458929
>>3458928
>>3458924
It smells like samefag around here

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3458952

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>>3458916
PAN!

>> No.3458960

>>3458941
You mean the Judeo Christian God, or the boss of all the Yamas?

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>>3458941
>>3458960

Who or what puts the Yama in such an exalted position anyway?

>> No.3458977

>>3458960
I don't know much about Yamas and all that stuff. Aren' they the same as the christian?

>> No.3458982

>>3458976
They rise to the status via their own merits

Basically: Her karma was really good, and she either died and became a Yama, or was directly transformed into the Yama (of Gensokyo)

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3458996

>>3458977

No, in Christianity, Judgment is solely reserved for the Lord himself.

Yama is from Hinduism and Buddhism, also known as Enma, who judges souls before sending them on their way.

As Enma, the deity is renowned for its imposing and terrible face, and cutting out the tongues of liars.

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3459011

The power is beautiful.

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>>3458996

YAMA!

>> No.3459009

not a single sage...

>> No.3459017
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3459017

I am the law

>> No.3459020

anybody that is not saging this thread is kog

>> No.3459026

>>3459020

You can't just come into a random thread and say that you twat.

>> No.3459032

>>3459009
>>3459020
Samefag senses tingling!
More Byakuren please, by the way.

>> No.3459033

>>3458982
>>3458996
So Yamas are made? Something like Tenshi?

>> No.3459040

>>3459026
>>3459032
>>3459033

sup kog

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3459043

ニューババァ

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>>3459033

No, the Hinanai clan were promoted to "free enlightenment", presumably BY the Yama for their deeds.

Yama, we got no idea.

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>>3459040

He's not KoG, i am KoG!

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>>3459048

>> No.3459062

>>3459055

>yugiyamiv4byakuren.png
>55

And that confirms it. Thread reported and hidden.

>> No.3459065

>>3459047
Like I said, Yama rise to their status through their deeds in life (although there's no evidence that they have to die first to become Yama, they may simply rise to their status as a natural result of their good karma and enlightenment.)

>> No.3459078

>>3459065
Who is above the Yama and how can they judge ten thousands of people per day without overwork?

>> No.3459081

>>3459065
>>3459078

samefag. enjoying bumping your thread kog??

>> No.3459090

>>3459078
Who says there IS a higher ranking Yama?
Yama are only local anyways, Sikieiki, for example, is ONLY the Yama of Gensokyo
>>3459081
lol, the butthurt is palpable
What's wrong, don't like Byakuren?

>> No.3459092

>>3459078
The Yama exist at the ends of this universe- whoever's beyond them is beyond this universe, and as such, the property of this universe known as "time" no longer applies to them.

>> No.3459105

>>3459090
I am pretty sure it said this somewhere, and even if there is no one above them, there got to be god or some kind of angels like in christianity?
>>3459092
Now you are just pulling DBZ shit out of your ass.

>> No.3459110

/r/ bomber

these threads make me sick

>> No.3459116

>>3459105
>there got to be god or some kind of angels like in christianity?

Yamas are Buddhist...

>> No.3459134

>>3459116
Hindu. They're pat of (certain types of) Buddhism, but so are pretty much all of the Hindu deities and demons.

>> No.3459136

>>3459110
What's keeping you from ignoring it instead?

>> No.3459144

In Vedic beliefs, Yamī is the first woman, along with her twin brother, Yama. The Rig Veda, in the tenth Mandala, contains a hymn in which they sing to each other. They were children of Surya, the Sun god, in his form as Vivasvat, and his wife Saranya's "shadow," Chayya. She is also known as Yamuna. Another name for Yami is YāmīnĪ, which means 'night' in Sanskrit. She is often depicted black in colour, riding her vahana, a tortoise.

She is the Goddess of river Yamuna. The river Yamuna is also connected to the mythology surrounding the Hindu god Krishna.

In Tibetan beliefs, Yamī is a goddess of death and rules the female spirits of the underworld (Naraka). She is the consort of Yama, lord of the underworld.

>> No.3459143

>>3459136
He madd

>> No.3459152

>>3459116
Like i said, i have no idea. The only thing i know is that every Religion is the same in the core. So they got to have a god too and some kind of higher beings or something.

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>>3459152
>The only thing i know is that every Religion is the same in the core.

Then you might want to re-examine what you "know"

Only the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) are pretty much the same

>> No.3459173

>>3459171
All religions are the same, for permissive definitions of "same"; all religions are distinct, for narrow definitions of "distinct".

>> No.3459185

>>3459173
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Buddhism

Brotip: There is no "God" in Buddhism
Except in a few very fringe sects

>> No.3459187

>>3459171
Even the Abrahamic religions are pretty damn different if you aren't going in actively trying to find a common politically correct universal humanism within the religions.

>> No.3459191

>>3459187
There are differences in method of worship, a few beliefs about morals, and so on.

But at the core, all Abrahamic religions believe in the same guy, variously named as God, Yahweh, or Allah

>> No.3459196

>>3459191

"Allah" just means "Lord", "God" simply means deity of faith, and "YHWH" means "I am that I am".

Just say "The Lord". All three refer to it as that.

>> No.3459201

>>3459185
My understanding was more or less that in most strains of Buddhism, God or other supernatural beings may or may not exist in some sense or another, but that their existence/non-existence is completely irrelevant to the attainment of Enlightenment. Whether or not they exist, they are only useful as metaphors.

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>>3459196
>"YHWH"
>not speaking the name Yahweh
JEW DETECTED!

Nevertheless, all three words are directed at the "all knowing, all powerful, and morally perfect being" referred to as God in the English lexicon

>> No.3459204

>>3459191
>>3459196

Interesting fact, dozens of religions of a timeless, omnipotent entity that will occasionally go by "Lord".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God

>> No.3459207

>>3459171
Every Reliions are the same. Hell, Heaven, God, Judgement etc.
Sometimes i wonder if humans relly could have come up with something like that always or that maybe there really is a god somewhere out there.

>> No.3459211

>>3459203

MYTHOLOGIST detected. Get your jewdar fixed.

Yes, That Which It Is is considered perfect and whatnot, but "The Lord" is the most common title used to refer to it in multiple languages, and it gets hella confusing dealing with multiple religions just saying "God".

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>>3459207
>ignoring the fact that I've thoroughly debunked the idea that there is a single omnipotent God in every single world religion past and present.

So I assume you're religious? Because typically, they're the only ones that blindly ignore the facts presented to them when it comes to a debate about religions OTHER THAN THEIR OWN

Hell, even in Greek Mythology, there was no single omnipotent God. Even though Zeus was the "boss of Gods" and the lord of the Sky, he wasn't the same kind of all knowing, all-powerful, and certainly not morally perfect, at least by today's standards.

>> No.3459224

>>3459105
There are the ever-ascending levels of enlightenment. There is no "end" in Buddhism, just an endless progression towards nirvana which even the gods are on. They're just a bit further along than the rest of us.

Since you brought it up, DBZ is actually rather good as a comparison to Buddhism, except there's no fighting & grunting, as it's been replaced by calm meditation to reach Super Nirvana-jin 17 status or whatever number DB's gotten up to these days. Final authorities, like the Judo-Christian God, simply do not exist. Yama can be viewed as glorified test administrators, with the authority to hold you back, pass you on, or even kick you back to grade school if you really made an ass of things. Millennia of work down the drain, but hey, you can always work your way back up through the cycle of rebirth. You could even become a Yama if you manage to do well enough through multiple lives, and the need for a new Yama exists. Even the Yama are working their way up, and thus they do retire from the positions to get on with achieving nirvana.

If it doesn't make sense, just remember that it's a religion, and making sense has never been a requirement.

>> No.3459227

You can't prove that god exists. You can't prove that god doesn't exist.

Now, try doing something productive, like building more nuclear power plants.

>> No.3459228

>>3459110
this isn't /a/ douchebag, why don't you go back to it

>> No.3459238

>>3459191
Judaism is about being the chosen people of a mighty asshole of a God, sometimes making out good because of it and suffering for it. It is primarily a religion of law, sacrifice and obedience.

Christianity is about that same mighty asshole of a God's split personality that wants to forgive you for the sinful nature he made you with but you need to love him first because being a mighty asshole of a God has made him so lonely. ;_; It is primarily a religion of undeserved love, sacrifice and forgiveness.

At least, those are the mainstream readings; there are countless incompatible understandings within even sub-branches of sub-branches of Christianity.

(I'm not qualified to speak on Islam.)

>> No.3459241

>>3459219
The last time i went to church was years ago. I just find it hard to believe that something like a human could just be made on a whim of nature or whatever.
Just look how a human body is built, all the organs, the brain and whatever comes with it, it is a master feat to make something like this.
Regarding Religion, it was only used by people to talk other into servitude and make the daily life better. I mean, you have nothing to eat, shit work, life in a shack and are sick most of the time and imagine someone comes and tells you if you believe you will go to heaven and live with god and in parasise where you have no hunger and are loved.
hard choice there.

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3459252

I'd eat her cookies.

>> No.3459261

>>3459224
I thank you for your explanation. But one thing, it seems that they don't believe in a god, but who did create the world and whatever comes with it then in their opinion?

>> No.3459262

>>3459241
I agree that it is hard to believe that the complexity that is life came about through the whimsy of nature and chance.

But isn't it harder to believe that a much more complex and powerful God came about through the whimsy of nature and chance, to make life in the first place?

>> No.3459270

>>3459261
They don't believe that the world was created; they think it literally doesn't have a start or an end, it just cycles through booms and busts, golden ages and dark ages. You're coming at it with the assumption that time is a line segment; they came at it with the assumption that time is a circle.

>> No.3459272

>>3459227
Correct. An entity, god in this case, with no descriptive characteristics or recorded actions can't be proven or disproven. What a lot of religions conveniently forget is that they ascribe a lot of descriptive characteristics and actions to their god(s), and thus make them very vulnerable to being disproven.

>> No.3459276

I never seen any doujin yet for Byakuren. so i dont know much about her.

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Sanae is a wonderful woman

>> No.3459284

>>3459262
But why, humans must have come from somewhere and if nature did create them and not god than would it be so far off if nature could have created something like a god?

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>>3459276
/jp/ will tell you that she is Youkai Jesus, but in reality she is more like Youkai Kannon.

>> No.3459300

>>3458901
Confirmed for being the only virgin in Touhou.

>> No.3459321

>>3459284
Yes, actually; such a God is a (countably) infinite order of magnitude less likely to come about by chance (from statistical / entropy point of view), although to be fair God is said to be outside of Nature so we can't really expect the laws of statistics to apply.

Regardless, the point is that you can't judge the probability of the existence of something outside the bounds of logic itself with logic.

>> No.3459394

>>3459284
There's a possibility that our entire universe is simply a confirmation of hypothesis experiment by a scientist in another universe.

We've got a few theories on how we might go about creating an entire universe, but the sheer physical requirements of conducting the experiments are daunting- one hypothesis requires particle accelerators spread across the entire galaxy to concentrate a phenomenal quantity of energy into a very tiny region of space. Achieve a certain energy density, and it should, according to the hypothesis, "break the wall" and branch off into a brand new universe. In that case, whoever conducted the experiment in this universe has become the creator (i.e. "God") of that new universe.

>> No.3459401

>>3459394
In before LHC to Gensokyo

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>>3459321
Yet it's that same human logic that tells us that existence isn't a circle. It must be a line. Things don't just 'always' exist. Everything must have a beginning, this is a fundamental rule for which we base our beliefs. Saying our universe always existed is like saying God always existed. Here's a question for theist: how much trillions of years past before God decided to create us? And to atheist, how much times has the universe restarted (i.e. Big-bangs)?

>> No.3459439

>>3459410
Theist: there was no time until he created it.
Atheist: Impossible to determine with present science.

there, I answered your 'tough' questions.

>> No.3459489

>>3459439
>Theist: there was no time until he created it.
I wasn't referring to our human time, I was referring to time relevant to God's setting.

>Atheist: Impossible to determine with present science.
Most atheist are just as bad as theist when it comes to such questions. I think once both parties accepts the fact that there will never be an answer for our existence, we can move on to more important questions.

Agnostic atheist > Agnostic theist > Atheist > Theist

>> No.3459514

>>3459489
There is no God-Time; God is entirely unbounded. Always was always will be, no sense of direction because He's already at the destination.

>> No.3459538

>>3459410
That's Western human logic; in places like India and China the circle is what makes intuitive sense to them. We could ask why they think like that, whether it is cultural or environmental or whatever, but you're making the mistake of assuming that people everywhere think like you do, that what is obvious to you is obvious to others and what you can't comprehend is incomprehensible to everyone else.

>> No.3459598

>>3459489
actually I think the problem is that you have a preoccupation with perceiving yourself as being on some philosophical high horse.

the fact is that you ask for a partisan response to a direct question, and then act surprised/condescending when the answer is couched in partisan terms.

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3459704

>>3459489
The fact that some questions that cannot be answered with our present means does not mean that they will always remain as such, as I pointed out indirectly in >>3459394

However, I do agree that a great deal of time and energy is currently wasted on tit for tats between theists and atheists. The theist statement "A creator exists" has no meaning, as they do not ascribe any properties to this creator-existence that might be tested. To clarify, I can theisticly state that "Xqujlxx exists," but so long as I don't give Xqujlxx any properties, that statement can never be proven or disproven as it is untestable.

It's even more pointless that pro-Skub vs anti-Skub, as Skub can at least be actively observed and thus tested.

>> No.3459749

>>3459704
Is Xqujlxx anti-fantasy or anti-mystery?

>> No.3459821

>/jp/ - pseudointellectual discussion

Either post more Youkai Jesus or get out.

>> No.3459851

>>3459749
Xqujlxx has not made any preference known regarding that matter, so Xqujlxx remains safely undefined as I theisticly troll you.

P.S. I'm not Bern.

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