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makes me think he needs to drink more

Would you link me to the source?

>Mokou was planned for 12.3
>scrapped

>-ZUN forbids Rikishi07 to do Touhou Doujins

NOW WHERE WILL I GET TOUHOU WITH MITTEN HANDS!?!

>-ZUN forget to apply for winter comiket.

Drinking too much effects brain cells.

>>3454947
http://lunaticred.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=utopia&action=display&thread=207&page=1

>mogulus

reported

>Marisa B is the canon ending.
Wow, that's mean. Just make it the hardest one, naturally.

>ZUN ignores all ideas coming from outside Japan.
Liar.

>ZUN designed Tenshi, there would be patterns of sky and cloud on her chest, but removed afterwards.
Wonder what that design looks like.

>>3454940
>-Kaguya, Mokou...were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them
It's like he's trolling us. It's like he actually browses this board and is trolling us.

>Rikishi07
Who is that? Google gives only 7 random results

>being too powerful

Even with Yukari, Okku and Yuyko?
Yep, makes sense.

>>3454980
Ryukishi07

lol typos

>Kaguya and Mokou for being too powerful
>IN A GAME WHERE HUMANS CAN FIGHT AND DEFEAT CELESTIAL BEINGS AND GODS AND SHIT

This just in.
Moku and Kaguya are the strongest touhous.
Cannon.

>>3454987
Thank you for clearing this out. Now I'm kind of distressed as well.

>>3454993
Nitori & Wiggle are now known for their lack of timekeeping skills. Nitori's clocks are obviously off.

>>3454993
Yes yes yes.

>>3454993

>>3454993
They're immortals. In fightan gaem terminology they'd be the equivalent of that SF3 3rd stroke boss, who's super is recharging health bar.

So, not only did I miss out on Kaguya, Mokou, and Nitori, but we lost WRIGGLE!

And as if that isn't bad enough, no Yuka was even planned?

I still think Eirin would be best for Hiso. Bow and arrow attacks.

>>3454983
>>3454985
He's probably just talking about the fact that they're immortal. Infinite health wouldn't make for a good match now would it?

Also sage for mogulus fag. Are you the same guy that put a female in charge of your channel? Women always abuse their power when they are given it.

>>3455011
They're immortal, but that doesn't mean you can't blow em into tiny bits for a while. All youkai eventually reassemble themselves, they're only put out of commission for a little while. That's the fun part about magical beings, they never truly die!

>>3455011
They "die" in danmaku fights, they can "die" in danmaku gaems. If you need logic behind it, they can just use the same excuse that being killed hurts.

Fucking Zun.

>>3455011
They may be immortal but this probably dosen't make their butts hurt less.

>>3455011
>They're immortal. Infinite health wouldn't make for a good match now would it?
But all touhous cannot be killed! Right? Right???

>>3455021
Spoilers: Cirno's immortal too.

Touhous DON'T die when they are killed?

>>3455011
Suwako is a goddess.
Goddesses are immortal.
Suwako is still in the game.

>>3455021
>>3455023
>>3455024
>>3455025
Hivemind, /jp/ has become one.
>>3455027
>>3455028

>>3455028
confusedshirou.jpg

>>3455029
Goddesses only exist if people believe in them if there's no one to believe in them they don't exist. Thusly, theyre mortal in a way.

>But all touhous cannot be killed! Right? Right???

>>3455069
"What're thing's you're not good with?"

>>3455069
PC-98

>>3455037
Does that mean if we believe hard enough, Suwako will return to us?

>>3455069
>any
I'm sorry ;_;

>>3455083
Yes, but while you do that i'll imagine she doesn't and that there's actually an lunar invasion coming.

>Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them
>Mokou
>Wriggle
>scrapped

FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU

zuntrollface.jpg

Problem westerners?

>-Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>Kaguya
>Mokou
>Wriggle
>scrapped

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>green text
FFFFFFFFFF

>-Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them, Kaguya and Mokou for being too powerful, and the other two for being out of time
Damn you ZUN.

THERE'S STILL A CHANCE WITH A PATCH

;_; I wanna be nitori

>ZUN: Also, a story about a clockwork steampunk giant in Gensokyo in which you NEVER SEE THE GIANT OUTSIDE THE TITLE SCREEN?

>Totally my idea.

>>3455124
That would be one epic patch.

>>3455130
EVERY THREAD I SAID: "12.3 would be more awesome with Kaguya and Mokou... and Wriggle. And maybe Eirin too!"

FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN FUCK YOU ZUN

Who gives a shit.

Only a handful of people still care about 12.3.

>>3455138
Forgot my pic.

>>3455139
lol i trol u

>-ZUN forbids Rikishi07 to do Touhou Doujins
Why is this? Ryukishi is a cool guy, doesn't ZUN like him or something?

>-Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori

God fucking damn it ZUN. If there isn't a patch with AT LEAST Wriggle and Nitori I'm going to cry. ;_;

I don't understand Kaguya or Mokou's immortality meaning they're too powerful for fighting games.

Right out of the drunken idiot's own mouth he said that they can still feel pain and be "killed" (they'll regenerate later, key word here being LATER).

By the same token, Cirno shouldn't be in the game because despite faggotry, she is incredibly weak, strong only to other fairies.

also
>Ryukishi07
Who the fuck is this?

>>3455155
He's obviously afraid that it might become more popular than his own work

Confirmed. Kaguya and Mokou are more powerful than Yukari, Utsuho, Suwako, and Remilia.

>>3455155
Probably because ryukishi07 isn't a racist prick like ZUN

>>Kaguya and Mokou for being too powerful
But it makes sense, they're pretty powerful it'd be stupid if someone like cirno were to solo both of them.

>>3455179
>implying Cirno taking on Yukari makes an iota of sense

>>3455164
Guy who does umineko and higurashi.

But what's the beef with him and ZUN? I thought they'd be bros but ZUN is just being a douche bag.

Cirnofags got their fan service character even though she's too weak while Moku and Kaguya fans get scrapped.

>>3455179
>implying cirno isn't the strongest

>>3455192
>>Implying shit meme is actually true.

>>3455186
It's really not terribly surprising, ZUN has been increasing his daily intake of haterade since IN.

Actually, I've been saying it since MOF.
Play the games, Do what you will fanon-ing the new touhous
and Ignore ZUN

>Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them

The real reason because this guy who'd won election told Zun to scrapped them or he'll be executed.

I hope he dies of Alcohol poisoning soon. He looks pretty sick anyways.

>>3455196
But has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>3455197
ZUN dying of alcohol poisoning is as probable as a fish drowning.

>>3455177
>racist prick like ZUN
>ZUN's right hand man is a whitey

yeah sure buddy

>>3455209
"But I'm not racist, all my farm hands out there picking cotton are black!"

>>3455217

>>3455219
black pirate?

>>3455224
0/10

>>3455224

Demoman.

>>3455217

>>3455226
>>3455228
He had an eyepatch and something that looks like what a pirate would wear. Not my fault.

Sage for shitty mogulus channel and absolutely awful youtube community that's gathered there.

Perhaps ZUN is just trying to jest with the Ryukishi07 thing, and the whole interview might be more lighthearted than it seems from just translations. He does say he's tsundere (now you know why it's called Team Shanghai Alice).

Hopefully.

>>3455244
>trying to use sage as a weapon/insult
Dohohohoho
Bump.
also
>actually going to a livestream
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>>3455247

So there's a rivalry between those two now? How did it all begin? Seacats Episode 2?

>>3455248
>greentext

>>3455209
>ZUN's right hand man is a whitey

What's up with that guy anyway?
I heard he draws those squishy looking (but attractive) touhous. Is that true?

>>3455254
I do believe this fits the description.
>>3455168

>>3455209
As a friend, or a slavedriver?

>>3455270
Marisa is the 18th person.

how are the immortals too powerful?
isn't their immortality like how it is in Baccano! you know, they die, but they come back to life like a minute later?

godammit ZUN.

It just goes to show that ZUN is retarded as usual when it comes to these types of things

Good thing we have doujin mangas and games.

inb4 the defensive nut huggers

>>3455190
...

>Moku
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>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku
>Moku

>>3455244
Yeah...totally right, man.

>mogulus and youtube cancer

The immortals could very well be on the top of the power chain. Remember that they were the last boss and the extra boss, respectively, in a game where your player character was a Reimu/Yukari TEAM.

>>3455292
>Nobody on the internet has ever made a typo

>>3455338
>Remember that they were the last boss and the extra boss, respectively, in a game where your player character was a Reimu/Yukari TEAM.

Also remember that Imperishable Night is about two times easier as the next easiest Touhou game.

>-ZUN ignores all ideas from outside Japan

This makes me extremely happy.

I don't even wanna imagine what touhou would be like if ZUN started using ideas from outside Japan.

>>3455344

>>3455190
>>3454993

>MOKU

>>3455346
Each team featured a former Final or EX boss, and they were ganging up on 1 character at a time.

That includes Alice

I like how op's shitty translation spawned 10 pages of arguing about things that have no connection to reality.

Good trollin

>>3455338
>Remember that they were the last boss and the extra boss, respectively, in a game where your player character was a Reimu/Yukari TEAM.
I beat Kaguya with all of the single characters and Mokou with most of them as well, so that's not much of a handicap.

Hilarity!

ZUN's been in full-force trolling mode for quite some time. The ending of SSiB, the cover of TH11, the red cross in the UFO demo, and now this all support it. Expect nothing but more false hope, as I'm fairly sure ZUN now drinks delicious tears with his beer to give it that authentic flavor of despair.

tl;dr- CRY MORE, HE DRINKS YOUR TEARS

>>3455352
Yes. His intricate storylines and well-crafted characters would truly suffer if he started getting ideas outside of Glorious Nippon.

>Kaguya, Mokou...were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them.
I'm quite sad about this.

>>3455465
The nuclear loli gets a phoenix attack so it's practically the same thing, right?

>>3455368
Just because the option is there, doesn't mean that that's the canon ending. Case in point: Julius/Belmont mode in most metroidvanias.

>Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3
woot

>ZUN forbids Rikishi07 to do Touhou Doujins
why would he do something that stup-

>Mokou
>scrapped

I'm dropping ZUN out of my BRO list

So is anyone gonna fully translate this? I feel that the person who translated it left out some other stuff.

Somebody who I can trust should translate this thing.

>>3455563
Don't hold your breath, I'm still waiting for a translation of zun's 2 part video interview from a year ago

>>3455352
you mean like that one obscure character who's appearance is styled upon a western witch

>>3455617

Its not the same thing and you know it.

>>3455617
The one that Zun designed before any westerner knew what Touhou was?

>>3455633
it is entirely the same thing

>>3455637

So you're telling me that Marisa was came from a suggestion by a fan from the west?

>>3455643
yes
that is what i am saying

>>3455643
Not a singular suggestion, but it and many other aspects of Touhou are based on or even tributes to ideas from outside Japan. Like, say, Team SHANGHAI ALICE, and all the accompanying Lewis Carroll and Agatha Christie references?

The bottom line is that one of ZUN's attractions was that he believed in a fusion of the East and West, so it's strange that he would now reject his original ideals. I'm hoping the line is translated wrong, but that's the one line that seems to have been questioned and double-checked. Maybe he's just joking?

>>3455643 from a suggestion by a fan from the west?
Where the fuck does it say anything about fan suggestions?

>>3454940

That answer was about how he gets contacted about projects, sales, official translations, and that kind of thing but ignores them all because he doesn't give a fuck about anything outside of his national bubble like every other japanese and american person.

It means he doesn't give a shit about non-japanese that like touhou, you dumb shits.

Too powerful for a fighting game? He obviously didn't play Guilty Gear. For example, Slayer is immortal, too, but he can still be defeated.

>>3455681
>The bottom line is that one of ZUN's attractions was that he believed in a fusion of the East and West, so it's strange that he would now reject his original ideals. I'm hoping the line is translated wrong, but that's the one line that seems to have been questioned and double-checked. Maybe he's just joking?

Zun has taken his fuzzy, self-contradictory canon to the level where he's himself part of it.

>>3455711
this

>>3455681

You are reading too much into it, I imagine ZUN just ignores ideas from PEOPLE outside of Japan, it's not going to stop him reading about something interesting from another cultures mythology and maybe adding it in. Lately it's been more Japan then anything because there is alot of it.

>>3455703
I saw another translation say they just wanted more of the weaker characters instead. Makes sense if they were going to do Nitori and Wriggle too. ...God damn it, I could have had Wriggle. I can't take it easy like this.

>>3455769
What IDEAS from PEOPLE is he supposedly even getting? Far as I can tell he keeps minimal contact with fans outside of his twitter (where he just talks about beer and console games).

So the bug was supposed to be in but Yuka was not? What.

thankfully touhou games are no longer relevant

>>3455769
I concur.

>>3455802
Yuka only appeared in PoFV as fanservice to the PC-98 fans, so there's no reason to ever expect her to return again. If she does, Mima fans will complain even more. ZUN doesn't care about youkai moe~ anymore. She didn't even make StB.

Ryukishi07 writes the story of the next Touhou game. How would it make you feel?

>ZUN ignores all ideas from outside Japan
ALL GOOD IDEAS WERE BORN IN JAPLAND
YES, EVEN TOASTERS
Seriously, I hope it's just mistranslation because I can't believe that maker of touhou would be so shortsighted

>>3455818
Perhaps he's just joking.

also, why does ZUN dislike Ryu?
Jealous that he's raking in all the money for his crappy artwork and doujin work? While most people are making money off of ZUN's work?
Ryu07 sounds like a pretty cool guy, ZUN sounds like a prick.

>>3455817
The what?

>>3455818
Or maybe ZUN just can't speak English
HAR HAR HAR

>>3455812
>Fujiwara no Mokou
Yeah sure.

Also
>ZUN ignores all ideas
not just from outside Japan.

>>3455828
That part sounded to me like some comment about his CG from EP2. He also said that he is a tsundere, so he actually wants Ryu-chan to make more reference to his Touhous in his Uminekos

>ufo
>nerfed

>>3455083
OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME FROG

I'll try to make more detailed translation as some of the rough translation in OP is likely to cause misunderstanding or downright wrong.

>ZUN forbids Rikishi07 to do Touhou Doujins
"It was the first time I didn't give approval for someone to make Touhou doujin material.
It was because I wanted him to put that effort into his own work."

>ZUN ignores all ideas from outside Japan
"There have been offers from foreign countries, but I haven't responded to any of them"

>>3456412
>It was because I wanted him to put that effort into his own work.
Awww.

>>3456412
damn exaggerations!

>The Makai in TH01, TH05 and TH12 are the same thing.

SHINKI'S COMING BACK I CAN FEEL IT IN MY AHOGE

>>3456444
I can feel it in my blood!

>>3456444
But Mimi is still dead.

>>3456444
can feel it in my bones.

>>3456412
Nice job dramatizing this OP.

Protip: ZUN is KoG

>Kaguya, Mokou, Wriggle, and Nitori were planned for Touhou 12.3 but ZUN scrapped them

I rage'd.

ZUN is nfufudere