/jp/ - Otaku Culture

first for my first lunatic 1cc (UFO) in 2 weeks max

STILL trying 1CC EoSD's Extra... I fucking hate Maze of Love

>>34405678
>how do people manage to play with a keyboard and how could anyone believe playing on one could ever be easier than using a controller?
Controllers might be more intuitive for low level play, and they remain viable at high level play, but I don't think there is a single movement that can't be accomplished more precisely and consistently on keyboard.

I play 2hu on keyboard + steam controller.

>>34407945
Playing on both? You want to use your left hand for movement and your right hand for the buttons? Arrow keys >>> wasd

>>34408213
>Playing on both? You want to use your left hand for movement and your right hand for the buttons?
Yep. Movement with right hand is literally unplayable. And with touchpad I don't have to hold shot button for 20+ minutes.

>>34408397
I can navigate with both, but I prefer to use a keyboard... so much so that one of them isn't optimal for movement, so I use two of them instead. I might switch the orientation and see how it feels sometime soon.

>>34408397
>>34408430
Out of curiosity have you two played DDC yet

>>34407613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEQWQq6mnhM

>>34408613
I have, not much though. I remember the screen flipping gimmick being way more painful a few years ago when I was playing 2hus with 360 controller. On keyboard it feels way more tolerable because it's easier to separate x/y axis.

>>34408613
Yes, but not with a controller.

>>34407354
Unconnected Marketeers.
Remake the thread.

Related,
https://twitter.com/korindo/status/1385719243279196169
TH18 will still release digitally on Steam on the 4th but the convention it was going to be released at physically was also delayed.

Should I play the demo for 18 before the game comes out?

>>34408733
You mean Separated Brokers?

>>34408733
>>34410943
No, he means Schizo Salespeople.

>>34410932
if you're fine with the experience being partially spoiled, then yes

>>34407394
Epic. UFO is notoriously one of the harder games to 1cc on lunatic

>>34410932
Play unpatched demo to abuse the shit out of shoplifting glitch.

>>34412977
I found out recently that you shouldn't stack Elixir. You'll lose bombs like crazy

>>34413536
Wow, I thought none of the passive cards stacked.

I finished IN route A with continues and now I'm forced to play route B.

I can't wait to play segregated traders already

Finally managed to get this, fuck this stupid ball

This "bossfight" is so awful it belongs in a Fromsoft game. I fucking love getting killed by a barrage of rapid firing bloody tampons that appeared out of nowhere while I was on top of the screen picking up my [P]s.

>>34417745
you don't always have to pick up your power points.

>>34417777
I took a mental note that I should avoid top of the screen like a plague during this fight but forgot and my item slurping reflexes took over because my brain was preoccupied with her retarded tampon maze puzzle spellcards.

>>34417745
that's seija; fuck inverted controls

>>34407613
Just play MarisaA!

What is better, keyboard or gamepad? Playing on controller seems more comfy, but fucking hell, dodging when you need to move slightly is so hard. I am on my way to 1cc EOSD, but I keep losing lives on first 2 atacks of Meiling. Should I switch?

>>34421587
Keyboard is better due to precise movement, but switch when you feel you need to.

Are any of flandre's other cards as hard as maze of love. I swear to god this card feels several times harder than any of her previous ones.

>>34422665
*?

>>34421587
What controller do you use? Do you move on stick or dpad?

>>34408640
Not him, but for me (normalshitter) it was easier to just do it the intended way. Still using Marisa A, of course.
At some point, I want to go back and grind the speedkill with the practice patch: it's both really swag, and I need to practice tight dodging like that anyway.

>>34417745
is the fight really that bad? granted, it's been awhile since i've played imperishable night but reisen is one of the few stage 5 bosses that i can beat without getting hit or bombing.

regardless, good luck

>>34421587
If you're dying on Meiling, yeah, I'd try switching. If you find afterward that you really prefer controller, it may be worth investing in one with a better d-pad. However, I think you'll find that having three fingers rather than one to control movement is much easier.

I hate music notes

>>34424597
No
Reisen is one of the easiest stage 5 bosses
Anon is just retarded

>>34424856
Not the other anon but why do you think Reisen is easy?

>>34424856
>Yatsuhashi
understandable.

>>34424856
You're playing on Lunatic no bomb no miss, anon is probably playing on normal.

>>34427202
Reisen is still one of the easiest on normal mode unless you are too lazy to practice for literally a good 5 minutes

>>34427202
Not that anon but I've beaten every windows 2hu game on Normal and I also think Reisen is one of the easiest stage 5 bosses. 90% of Reisen's fight is either find the obvious huge empty spaces and follow them downwards (1st and 2nd spellcards; her last spellcard is also this but it has an extra step of remembering where the empty space, which is almost always in the same area) or skate at the very bottom of the screen between easy to dodge waves (1st and 2nd non cards). Her 3rd spellcard is her hardest spell card because it doesn't outright tell you where you should be. Futo is the 2nd easiest boss and she doesn't come anywhere close to how easy Reisen is.

>>34429229
>Futo is the 2nd easiest boss and she doesn't come anywhere close to how easy Reisen is.
idk, maybe I just need to play IN more often but I can beat Futo without missing or bombing. The last few times I fought Reisen, I bombed skipped most of the fight

>>34429229
I always find Futo easier, but I have really bad butter fingers with very precise movements. Reisen's nonspells always get me somehow.

>>34424597
Spellcard with rings from corners is bullshit.
Spellcard with completely disappearing rings is bullshit.

It's time to go on my exercise bike and pretend I'm chasing Sakuya again.

>>34422924
Xbox one controller using stick. I find it to be great to "macro" dodge, but it seems I will have to fuck with keyboard as of now

>>34434596
I recommend you get used to switching between stick and d-pad when necessary; doing that made playing with controller a viable option for me.

>>34434596
Try lowering your deadzone in the config, that helped me a lot back when I was using stick.

>>34427150
Not that anon but a lot of her fight is just simple once you figure it out. None of the nons are that threatening except the second, which you can make easier by killing a familiar. The first spell tests your ability to dodge 1 (one) bullet every 5 seconds. The second is just an eyesight test. The final doesn't even have anything to dodge. It's only really the third that's an actual challenge.

あああああああああああああ

>>34436694
What are they doing

>>34437311
Their best...
We at least have one victory over Japan pretty much guaranteed (IN Extra scoring). We'll just have to pray for the other matches.

>>34437470
DDC and LoLK survival are also in the bag for west

>>34437897
>the final match, lolk, might be what decides the entire competition
fathom the kino

>>34436694
Very exciting
>>34437470
>>34437897
Nothing is certain in this time limited setting. That's why it's so exciting.

>>34430123
Ring from corners is a pretty obvious route, it gets consistent with practice
Disappearing rings is just testing visual memory

>>34436694
What is this thing, some kind of tournament?

>>34437953
Only between China and Japan, West can’t win at this point. even if they win all their matches they’ll be down 1 point because some sociopath tranny invited the eosd WR holder to play a match (when he didn’t even want to play) for what was basically a free win for japan

>>34439058
https://maribelhearn.com/twc

>>34439243
That's ignoring second-place pity points and uh... do I know you?
Do you lurk on the gameplay servers?

>>34439243
>even if they win all their matches they’ll be down 1 point because some sociopath tranny invited the eosd WR holder to play a match (when he didn’t even want to play)
Sounds like someone needs to be replaced.

>>34440231
No one's really taking it seriously, actually. Except China.

GET FUCKED, MOONIES. Somehow managed to clear it with 3 extra lives left. Kaguya's final spell is pretty cool. Reisen is still a cunt.

>>34441190
>skipping finalA
Congrats anon, but come on.
Play his game.

>>34441190
Final A is ez

>>34441190
Nice!
Those are some impressive margins for a first 1CC, too.

>>34441239
>>34441406
Final A is next. See>>34414863
I'm not happy with having to play them out of order but that's my punishment for using continues I guess.

>>34441937
ZUNgramming strikes again
Ganbatte!

>>34407613
HOLY SHIT I DID IT!
https://files.catbox.moe/jmx9b6.rpy

Fuck pacifism.

>>34444352
GG dude

May 4th soon.

>>34444391
Thank you!

>>34444352
Excellent job, anon. You did well. Are you moving on to PCB next?

>>34444544
>Are you moving on to PCB next?
Here is my 1CC chart. As you can see, I am very disorganized when it comes to what order I 1CC the games in. I am thinking about either doing more EoSD 1CCs (Normal NMNB, Hard NB, Lunatic) or more PoFV 1CCs.

gonna try to 1cc eosd with needle reimu again

>>34417226
congrats dude

I hate vampires

why is eosd regarded as one of the harder games to 1cc when there's a bunch of stuff in games like in and pcb that's so much more annoying than anything you will encounter in normal eosd?

>>34454042
because most people start at EoSD

>>34454042
The worst thing in PCB is probably the stage 6 spam. I’d put that in the same tier as stuff like emerald megalith, sakuya’s nons, green books, killing doll, meister, scarlet gensokyo. But besides that, there really isn’t much. Maybe Hell God Sword, but that’s about it. What’s giving you trouble?

>>34454042
RNG and lack of resources compared to those 2

>>34454042
Lack of visible hitbox and midboss Sakuya are the only really troublesome things I can think of. Maybe higher difficulties are tougher than other games but on normal it felt like the easiest to 1cc.

>>34455095
>Lack of visible hitbox
Only newfags complain about this though

>>34455303
And only newfags bother to compare the relative difficulties of Normal 1ccs.

>>34455303
There is people that can do lunatic in newer games that avoid EOSD because of the hitbox thing tho

>>34456492
>newer games
opinion discarded

>>34456492
Those people sound like cowards. It's not even hard to figure out where Reimu and Marisa's hitbox is, Marisa's is where her pink bow is at and Reimu's is about where the white of her outfit meets the red (that black strip). I don't play Lunatic so I don't really get why someone would need to see their glowing hitbox 24/7.

>>34454042
IN's 6th and 5th stages are easier than EOSD's 6th and 5th stages. PCB is on equal ground with EOSD in my opinion but by the time most people play PCB, they've already beaten EOSD with at least one shot type.

>>34456651
You don't need to, it's a complete placebo. Not to mention the visible hitbox patch is straight up incorrect anyways.
If you're ever looking directly at your hitbox you're reading the screen completely wrong

>>34456082
>>34456598
Kill yourself.

>>34456492
List one.

>>34455303
I lose the feel of hitbox after a week of not playing.

>>34457002
It's kind of burned into my mind where it is just going on the games that come after it. I might forget, but I get a vague idea of where it is if I forget.

Final A cleared. That was a nice run, finally managed to no-bomb Marisa's spinning swirly starts shit and Master Spark.

>>34464931
Nice! Are you done with IN for now, or are you going to beat up Reimu next?

>>34469287
>beat up Reimu next
Yeah, leaving Reimu's ass unwhooped feels incomplete. Hope I'll manage to 1CC both routes before TH18 comes out.

>>34469937
Well, it's only 1 new stage, and Magic team is pretty powerful. On the other hand, TH18 is very soon. Let's hope for the best.
Also, nice image.

I decided to chart out everything I either cleared recently or I know 100% I cleared on my older computers. A few notes:
I don't remember which teams I beat IN with on what routes but I've definitely 1CC'd it several times. I'll be clearing them all sometime this week.
I'm pretty sure I've done 1CCs for every type in PoFV, MoF, SA, and DDC. Not 100% sure so those games are next on my list. I've also cleared 1 route in GFW but dunno which one.
Hopefully I can fill out the majority of the normal mode sections before UM comes out but I doubt it.

At what point do I stop feeling like I suck at this? I'm able to consistently 1cc EoSD but I still feel like I'm terrible at it lol.

>>34475581
literally never

>>34475581
Something that felt like a big break for me when I was doing my normal 1CCs was being able to know where my character is with a useful precision without always looking at her.
Of course, I still suck in different ways, and I've improved a lot since then, but in ways that are more difficult for me to put into words.
Also, this
>>34475748
but you mustn't let it bring you down.

>>34473437
What's your next Hard 1CC going to be?

>>34476825
Probably PCB or UFO. I love both of these games the most and if I'm going to grind out another Hard 1cc, I want it to be one of my favorites.

>>34477056
My first Hard 1CC also happened to be EoSD. My second was PoFV with Lyrica

>>34473437

Akiba-Hobby just released a short trailer for Touhou 18, showing new cards and stages?!
https://youtu.be/prI89LQBTlo
Also, has the release date been pushed back to the 13th, or is that just the release date for Akiba-Hobby?

>>34481208
That miko card looks really cool
And the date is for their physical release as far as I know

>>34481439
Weakass laser, barely kill a fairy. Buddhist scroll is much better.

>>34481541
That fairy looked tanky though so you're not supposed to kill with one laser hit. And bomb spamming is really lame, you don't really want lame 1ccs do you?
Embrace the Tao.

>>34481208
>short
this is 6 minutes long, my guy

>>34483484
Two of which are spent in menu.

Got through most of Eirin's last spellcard with 0 bombs and lives and died at the very end (less than 10% of healthbar left) like a retard because I decided to try to destroy one of shooty orb things on the side that could barely hit with my shot. Now I'm tilted as fuck and can't get through stages 1-3 without doing some dumb mistake and restarting. Also, after playing Barrier Bitches Team my bombing reflexes are completely fucked.

>>34481208
>has the release date been pushed back to the 13th, or is that just the release date for Akiba-Hobby
?

>>34486198
It's a good habit to bomb before you get hit.
Also, are you using the Malice cannon? It destroys Eirin's final.
Also, you probably don't need a flawless stage 1-3, as long as you are good enough on all the stages taken together.

>>34481208
>3:37
That's interesting. I can't tell if the shots changed since it still feels like Sanny and Mari are still strong.

>>34486760
Plot relevant spoiler speculation:
Why the train tracks in the background? What are they smuggling into Gensokyo?

>>34486794
>tracks
There are no busses in gensokyo but they said nothing about trains.
After nearly two decades, we finally found out where Yukari hid those trains of hers.

>>34481541
>Buddhist scroll is much better.
super bombs vs a magic light that removes [some] bullets
gee.

>>34486730
Does Malice Cannon count as bug abuse? I tried a bit of it but I think my timing was off, it only performed well at super close range.

>>34487089
I wouldn't consider it to be bug abuse, but this is an opinion.
It should do well at any range: what you want to do is to switch to Alice briefly but frequently by tapping shift rhythmically, but never really hold shift down so that you stay mostly in human form. Since Alice's beam instantly covers the screen, you'll effectively be firing Marisa's while Alice's beam also hits the boss.
If you tap too frequently or hold it to long, you'll lose damage since Marisa's missiles won't come out, and they do much better damage than Alice's beam. It'll also do more damage to familiars than Marisa's shot would normally do, so it's very good for clearing out those shiny orb things.

>>34487089
Nah
Even with it they are tied for worst team with Scarlet (for survival, get off me scorefags)

>>34486877
Don't sleep on the bomb enhancement. Skipping 1.5 spellcards is pretty fantastic.

>>34407682
Genuine question, why the fuck does XUN use a controller? Almost every recorded video of him playing is with a controller, must be hell to test like that.

>>34488027
Oh shit I meant ZUN

>>34488027
ZUN isn't even good at his own games. If he were, Ten Desires wouldn't have released with a spell card that crashed the game if you captured it.

>>34488027
KB seems to be pretty unpopular among shmup players since they mostly get into the genre from arcades or older consoles. Same goes for ZUN I guess. Touhou players are an exception since it's The PC Shmup and most 2hufags don't care much about genre as a whole.

>>34488098
Wait wtf, that must have been patched. Never bothered with TD much, which one?

>>34488456
Nvm, just looked it up, what the fuck? How do you even fucking miss that? There's always something wrong with the survival spells holy shit.

>>34486794
>>34486817
Could be for a minecart. Maybe we'll visit the famous cave behind the Hakurei Shrine? Eh? Eh?

>>34487225
>>34487233
Yep, it seemed to be a bit easier but not as busted as I expected. The nicest part was clearing swarms of heavy fairies.
Also, played Scarlet Gang a bit, the shot feels nice and bomb purse made resource management a bit less stressful but holy shit both bombs are fucking garbage. And I somehow failed to get the last 1up from point items every time.

>>34481208
Good to see that ZUN fixed Sannyo's sprites having torn clothes.

The newer patches made by thcrap don't allow you to delete the self updating feature. Guess I'm just gonna play in japanese.

>>34490224
>The newer patches made by thcrap don't allow you to delete the self updating feature. Guess I'm just gonna play in japanese.
WELCOME TO MY WORLD

>>34490224
Can't you just delete or rename the update dll file (thcrap/bin/thcrap_update.dll), like you used to be able to?

>>34490224
Disconnect from the internet before you 2hu. thpatch can't make a connection and should just launch the game without dicking around., right?

>>34488719
Cave under Youkai Mountain. If that's not stage 4 I owe all of you an apology.

>>34490461
I imagined stage 4 would be the casino stage. Since the tunnel goes so deep, do you think we'll get an entire underground settlement?

>>34490030
I'd love to hear how he screwed that one up to begin with.

>>34490224
I just went and did it.
Look for solutions instead of whining, man.

>>34490402
>Can't you just delete or rename the update dll file (thcrap/bin/thcrap_update.dll), like you used to be able to?
I looked around in the files and can't find where it's supposed to be.
>>34490506
>I just went and did it.
>Look for solutions instead of whining, man.
But I'm rarted

>>34490813
Where do you run thcrap from?

>>34490813
nvm I'm super retarded. The update.dll is just in a different place than it was in the pre-2017 patched games.

>>34490825
I'm just stupid, the older games had it in a different place.
But I can't get the patched version to load at all, i click the application and it doesn't even open.

>>34491008
Are you using the pre-packaged patches or the universal launcher? If you rerun thcrap_configure.exe in the universal launcher, you should be able to generate new .lnk files that'll run the translated games, in case you broke your old ones.

>>34491065
Pre-packaged
Will try the universal launcher

Where can I get older touhou games? Are they even available anymore?

>>34492565
https://pastebin.com/hPmDczz6

>>34492717
Thanks for the viruses.

>>34493875
use moriyashrine

DIE, MOONIE SCUM

>>34495660
nice job champ

The UM demo has really renewed my interest in Touhou, trying to get at least one 1CC on all the main Windows games. 1CC'd WBaWC and HSiFS over the past few days.

>>34503335
Which game are you doing next?

>>34503638
DDC, did a practice run with ReimuA yesterday which was pretty fun, gonna try out the other characters too. I'm working my way backwards ending with UFO because I find it the most annoying.

Keyboard/controller guy from the beggining of the tread
Keyboard is hard to adapt to, but it`s fucking worth it. Now I am much better at the game, feels great.
As 1cc EOSD looked too hard for me to beat and grind was tiresome I decided to just play all other games instead. PCB is fucking hard, way harder than EOSD for me, but seing hitbox helps a lot. Then I switched to IN, playing just to chill and on 3 attempt I fucking 1cc it on Remu. Shited my pants at the end as I practiced Eirin`s bullshit cards a little, and then fucking Kaguya appeared. Despite being completely blind about her, I saved 2 lives from 5 I had. Last time I was this happy was ages ago when I killed last boss in DS3 on sl1, the feels anon...
Is this it bros? Am I finally good enouh, or IN is just too easy? To be fair last card bombs saved me a bit too many lives. Anyway, of to drink some chocky milk from Marisa.

>>34503963
When I did my normal 1CCs, I thought IN was about as difficult as PCB, which was about as difficult as EoSD. They took me about 3 weeks each to 1CC.
So yeah, that's pretty impressive! Congratulations!
It's not it, though: expect every game to challenge you and require some game specific practice.

>>34407613
Her second spell card gets me every fucking time and it makes me furious

>>34490224
use a firewall to prevent the game and its dlls from making connections

if programs don't have to ask before connecting to the internet, your computer is configured incorrectly

Got an LNB on EoSD today. Somehow a perfect Stage 4 and died twice to Sakuya's nonspells, then I almost game over'd to Remilia lol game's hard

>>34506394
That's an incredible achievement. Congratulations!
How far had your best LNB attempt gotten before today?

>>34506394
Very impressive! How long did it take?

>>34506394
Congrats, anon!

Best thing to do after a particularly awful run? One where you die or mindlessly bomb through stuff you normally beat and just feel like a scrub all over again.

>>34506625
Thank you! It was either Scarlet Meister or the nonspell before that, never made it to her last spellcard in a full run before.

>>34507020
Thank you! It took me about 3-4 days.

>>34507167
Thank you!!

>>34508912
>3-4 days
The return of the legendary dodonpachi anon

>>34508912
>3-4 days
M-masaka. Anon... Is this possible to learn this power?

Just did my 2nd Hard 1CC for EoSD. Jesus fuck, I didn't realize how easy Marisa B had it for Patch. It's like night and day.

Back before the Kouryuudou trial was released, when all we knew was that there was going to be some kind of card system, someone joked that the 1cc chart would have to have a lot of boxes for the different "routes". Of course we know that that's silly now, but I thought it might be interesting to actually crunch the numbers for the fun of it.
Firstly, for the demo: You have two starting card slots, and 18 cards to choose from, plus the option of no card. Aside from the single case of two empty slots, the two cards have to be different, but it doesn't matter which order they're in. That gives ((19 * 18) / 2) + 1 = 172 different possible starting configurations. Then for each stage, you can buy any non-boss, non-item card that you don't already have, any of the five purchasable item cards (since I'm assuming the Phoenix Tail can show up multiple times), or that stage's boss card if you don't already have it. Because of these rules, the math gets a little bit wrinkly, but long story short, it works out that there are 13,167,897 different possible "routes" just through the demo.
Extending to the full game, I had to make a few assumptions - that none of the 26 new cards will be item cards, that there will be five boss cards, that you can buy cards after each of the five stages, and that you'll still have two starting slots. (If any of these turn out to be wrong, I can easily revise them later.) Given these conditions, there will be 991 starting configurations and 121,998,606,396 "routes" for the full version. If one run takes 30 minutes, then it would take almost 7 million years of playing non-stop to play all of them and "100%" the game.
In conclusion, I'm only going to consider it as having 4 routes.

>>34510896
>121,998,606,396
Assuming you store each each route as a bit (for example, 0 representing "having not 1CC:ed" and 1 representing "having 1CCed") the 1CC chart would take up 15 TB. Of course, there'd be better ways to store this as long as your 1CC's are sparse (you can just store indices to the paths you've 1CCed, for some index convention). For example, it might be nice to represent the cards you got in your run by the indices of your cards in the card list, separated by commas.
Like: 1,10,2,4,6,7,24 or maybe
1,10|2,4,6,7,24 (if you want to emphasize the 2 starting cards). (Note that the lives, bombs and money 'cards' have an index, at least in the demo, so there is no need to have a special case for 'did not buy a card'. Things get a bit messier if there are cards that let you buy more cards at once, though.)
Let's enjoy the creativity UM will bring to our 1CC charts!

Whats the replay archiver now?

>>34424856
>Minoriko
>Destroys runs
ha?

>>34481208
>stages
Just one from what I can see. And not much. I'd rather see the spell card screenshots from back then.

SCARLET POLICE
ON GHETTO PATROL
I'm getting close to giving up on characters color coding.

>>34505233
Really? That one imo is her easiest
>>34506394
Great job anon! Are you gonna do a LNN?

>>34510879
Same here. I tried to do a Hard 1CC on EoSD with ReimuB and ReimuA for three weeks and eventually I gave up. Then I tried it with MarisaB and got it in five attempts Master Spark is also the best bomb in the game

>>34513843
It's more like she prevents runs from happening in the first place with her final.
>>34516860
Thank for clarifying that, can't wait to see pink spots for yuyu and good job anon!

Does anybody here play Touhou on a laptop? I want to get a new laptop because the one I use right now is a piece of shit and the more recent games like DDC and WBaWC lag pretty hard on certain bullet patterns. What's a laptop that can run the newer games at 60FPS without framedrops for around 500-600 USD or lower? I don't play games other than Touhou anymore so I would rather not go through the hassle of building a new PC when Touhou is all I want to play

>>34516906
Thanks!
>LNN
I'm definitely not ready for that yet, but I'm currently aiming to LNB every game.

>>34519206
The games run just fine on my ten year old laptop, so I imagine almost anything new should work.
You'll need some more power if you want to run danmakufu fangames, though.
Disclaimer: I haven't tried TH18 on my laptop (I have a newer desktop now as my primary computer), or the TH17.5 demo.

>>34519635
If you actually lnb'd it in 3 days you definitely are ready for LNN lol

What is the highest score one can reach in the practice mode of eosd's stage 6 on normal? I'm able to score over 32m with marisa b, but only around 24m with reimu since her bombs don't last long enough.

anyone else gets very mad while playing touhou? like i realized that i want to perfect the games before my 1cc which is a bad mentality as i'm skipping improvement steps.
i simply get to like stage 4 then lose a life then i get mad and alt+f4. idk why but i'm playing this game without bombing or using continues and i hate this mentality

>>34523551
I might grunt in frustration if I die unexpectedly (or sometimes giggle, if the death was funny), but it's a very short burst of emotion and not really something I would call anger, although I get a strong and lingering desire to reset, if the death was early.
Do you think it'd help if you played in a social setting? Like playing in parallel with someone trying to see who can make it further into the game? Or just playing in front of people. (If you have sufficient self-control to not get mad in front of others? Or if someone's encouragement could help you, assuming voice chat is an option.) Just throwing some random ideas around.

>>34523551
I ragequit if I lose a life to anything before stage 4, but you gotta learn to take the loss and continue anyways. You aren't gonna get nowhere trying to capture a spell you suck ass at.

>>34510896
Just when SOC was getting ready to quit.
Guess this'll keep him busy.

>>34519206
>500-600
a $50 laptop could run any of them smoothly.
>>34523551
>anyone else gets very mad while playing touhou
No. It's not possible for me, but I restart if I lose lives like >>34525845 says. It's a weird little thing that just doesn't go away for me. I have to push myself to continue since it throws off my rhythm as a way to describe it.

>>34523551
I ragequit if I lose a life before stage 3. I know that it's stupid not to use your bombs when you have them so I often just quit the game or restart over wasting my bombs. It just pisses me off honestly.

>>34519206
At least buy separate keyboard because playing with a laptop's one is hard as hell.

>>34526355
That's not true. I'm only mediocre to begin with, but playing on a laptop keyboard barely impacts my performance, if at all. It's not like Touhou uses enough simultaneous keys for rollover to be an issue. You might need a little practice to get used to the feel of the keys, but that's true of any keyboard.

>>34526973
Seconding this. Laptop keys usually have a very short activation distance (to make them thin), so they are usually pretty good.

>>34521927
Not much of a score player but here's what I could get as ReimuB.
I'm sure the maximum is a lot higher than this.

>>34523551
Same dude, fucking same. I just never bomb, and then die to some easy fucking spell. After that I die the second time and quit, every time.

Fake Moon incident was promptly solved by officer Scarlet! Unfortunately, moonie perpetrators tried to resist arrest and were killed in the process.
>>34517459
I did a couple runs as Netherdweebs and couldn't even past midboss Eirin. Blasting through stages with Yuyuko's dakka is fun but I feel like I lack damage during bossfights and controlling Youmu is a massive pain in the ass.

>>34503335
Updated. SakuyaA is pretty nuts in DDC, maxed out my lives on Stage 5. And TD really is easy, huh? I've kinda been dreading it but it's time to tackle UFO, so here goes nothing!

>>34534645
You're fast! Good luck!

>>34534723
Thanks! I already have some knowledge of these games from back when I did non-1CC runs of them which has helped speed things up. I wasn't very good back then so this has been a blast for me.

>>34532283
Actually I meant solo Yuyu shot. Wonder how you are gonna handle solos in general with the color stuff
Youmu can be tricky I agree, but she is extremely rewarding once learned and our goddess takes care of stages just fine as you said.
One trick that made it much easier to me was to tap shift quickly while under a boss. When you switch to Yuyu and back to Youmu, myon resets and shoots straight up, so this is ideal for when you find a chance to stand underneath the boss and makes here generally easier to handle.

>>34535087
I think you'll do just fine in UFO too.
I remember thinking it was pretty difficult when I did my Normal 1CC, but I can't really see why nowadays, since the game is very generous with resources.
I think the reason I struggled with it is because it's a game that really tempts you to dodge beyond your level: you'll have like 6 UFOs dancing in front of you during stage 4, and all of them are a potential deathtrap.
My advice would be to get a solid UFO route for stage 1-2, except perhaps the ending of stage 2. Then improvise a bit during stage 3 but still grab most UFOs, and then just ignore them during the stage 4 spam unless it's 99% safe to go for them. Even better: use a shot that has good mobility and i-frames during bombs (like Sanae-B) and use bombs to grab UFOs during these sections.
Or just play like you usually do - you're clearly good enough to know what you are doing. Good luck!

>>34535336
>I think the reason I struggled with it is because it's a game that really tempts you to dodge beyond your level: you'll have like 6 UFOs dancing in front of you during stage 4, and all of them are a potential deathtrap.
Yep, it's this. I have OCD so I have bad memories of the screen clutter. That and Shou's bendy lasers. Thanks for the advice!

>>34535336
I always think "but I could summon a UFO and be free of this bullet hell for a joyous second"

and then I die trying to pick up a UFO

Since there isn't enough time for me to 1CC another 2hu before UM release I decided to try something new and grabbed CAVE pack on Steam sale. How the fuck do people play these epilepsy seizure simulators??? Mushi is kinda tolerable but DFK is an absolute eyerape. Everything including player's sprite is so flashy that my highlighted hitbox is harder to identify than invisible one in EoSD.
Well, maybe this will help me to temper my eyes for future UFO and WBaWC runs.
>>34535200
>When you switch to Yuyu and back to Youmu, myon resets and shoots straight up
Oh, that's good to know. I thought I have reposition it every time and was wobbling around like an idiot to get it into position. Also, the habit of moving closer to target while unfocused is always kicking in.

>>34537202
It's very useful to just tap shift to reset myon. It's amazing that you made it as far as you did without knowing this, since this is how you'll do most of your damage as the Netherworld team.

>>34525820
>Do you think it'd help if you played in a social setting?
100%, i think i have never got mad before while playing in front/with other people before. although i don't know anyone who plays touhou here lol. there are "otaku" people here but they only watch naruto so i can't recommend touhou to them
>>34525845
>>34525901
>>34525938
that's the thing, i keep restarting. it got to the point where i shitmiss in the first stage which makes me go into a loop of restarting, i KNOW i can get to stage 6 but these "shitmisses" makes me mad at myself


on another note: FUCK TOUHOU 13. who thought making these fucking divine spirits not fucking float down the screen ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i keep running into bullets trying to get these damn fucking spirits which makes it harder than other easy games

>>34537202
If you're looking for a short and light change of pace, I highly recommend QP Shooting Dangerous. It's more similar to Touhou, not terribly difficult, and feels pretty comfortable to play.

>>34521023
>The games run just fine on my ten year old laptop
What are the specs? Mine has 4GB of memory and 2.10GHz. Mine also also probably as old as yours

>>34537438
Can you stream your gameplay?
(Don't ask me how to do that, I have no idea.)

>>34537642
like steaming it on twitch or youtube? if so then that's a great idea! but my upload speed isn't capable of this. still a great idea

>>34537617
Intel Core i5-520M (2.4 Ghz)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
4GB DDR3 RAM

So it's fairly high end, for it's age.

>>34537617
>>34537710
I'm not an expert, but the main limitation should be the GPU and how many sprites it can draw per frame while staying at 60fps, right?

>>34537710
And you don't have any framedrops at all? Even on WBaWC? The fuck? Why is my laptop so shit even with similar specs?

>>34537794
When a lot of bullets are cancelled at once, like when some spellcards end. Not during normal gameplay, no.
Not sure if it matters, but I'm running the games with WINE on Linux.

Just realised that setting the fps in vpatch to 75 doesn't make the game "smoother" but faster. fucking kill me as i have been playing touhou in 1.25x speed in the past month

>>34538064
Did you get a dragon ball like moment, where you are suddenly able to jump to the sky after removing your limiter, or is the slower pace just messing you up so far?

>>34538527
oh yea it did, i'm currently trying to 1cc mof and i instantly started capturing spells in the 6th stage. it's a day and night difference. gonna try it on lolk brb

>>34538006
What's your highest slow rate? Mine is about 2.5% or something.
>When a lot of bullets are cancelled at once, like when some spellcards end
Same here. It usually happens when I use a bomb or bullets are canceled from a spellcard, but there have been occasions where the frame reate will randomly drop during normal gameplay, and it's never usually at the same sections of a level either.

>>34538064
What made you think that way exactly?

>>34516939
Yeah, Reimu in general just feels worse than Marisa. Marisa has either the best shot type or the best bomb in the game but Reimu has neither perk while also being slower. The only real benefits she has are her hitbox being slightly smaller (which, for some people, can be the only thing that matters and I understand that) and it's somewhat easier to clear stages. But EoSD is a weird game where your screen can be pretty empty if you shoot stuff down fast enough so Reimu's wide range doesn't really feel too useful. Finally got my Hard 1CC for ReimuB after 3+ days of grinding. One more Reimu to go and then I'll have to figure out how to do Extra mode with her.
>>34478892
Thanks anon, got a good chuckle out of me. I forgot the dots were meant for the games.

>>34539548
Oddly enough, I was able to 1CC the Extra with ReimuB not Marisa. idk why Maze of Love is easier for me to dodge as Reimu.
t. >>34444635

>>34539716
Been a while since I last attempted Flandre with Reimu but I remember Reimu having an easier time with Maze of Love. Something about her focus and unfocus speed being easier to manage for the rotations than Marisa.

>>34537438
Pretty sure the concept is to blow up enemies right after they appear and with you right next to them so you suck spirits in instantly if the section allows for that. If you're at the parts where fairies drop life/bomb fragments you're probably in trance anyway for the extra bonuses. Except for stage 5 and 6 maybe but by then you can decide if the risk is worth it or not.

>trying to do Normal NB with MarisaB on UFO
>get to Byakuren with 8 lives
>still get a game over on the last spell card
I fucking hate MarisaB

>>34541858
MarisaB is the worst shot type for UFO

Reminder that the unlock code for pofv is pressing D three times, S four times, Q one time and R two times on the result menu. Also if you hold shift while selecting a character you can get her alt colors.

>>34543478
I'm doing it because I already NB'd Normal with the other shot types. MarisaB is the only shot type I haven't NB'd yet

>>34539548
Was the red EoSD hard 1cc supposed to indicate something or was it just red?

>>34541858

Thank God pofv counts using a continue as a clear so you can see the good endings if you use one.
This cheating AI is so BS sometimes I feel like only lunatics would bother trying to do it without a continue. I guess I'll just go 1cc-less for this one.

>>34510896
>In conclusion, I'm only going to consider it as having 4 routes.
You don't need those many boxes in the first place. If you're really autistic, just base it on some other system C39 would be Card 39 as the second card, etc. The first one card clear is the only one that matters anyways since you need to clear the game in order to unlock the second slot anyway.

Pingval just got a solo Marisa IN Extra world record live on the world cup!

>>34547226
Nobody cares.

>>34547831
Evidently you did by replying

If I wanted to support ZUN through steam, how long does it take for English fan patches to come out?
I saw that Steam has Unconnected Marketeers listed to release soon.

Bullying moonies is so addictive...

>>34539548
What’s the bug in wily beast extra?

>>34552391
Saki's survival is not a survival after you bomb it

>>34543708
It's just me being a dumbass.
>>34552132
Good job, anon! I'll be working on 1CCing IN with the solo types after I finish up my EoSD Hard+EX clears for ReimuA. Having to beat IN twice per type burns me out quickly so I'm somewhat dreading it.

>>34551698
>how long does it take for English fan patches to come out?
However long it takes the biannual cross site raiders to get bored of doomposting on /jp/ and arguing about (read: in defense for) shitty translations.

>>34535469
>>34534645
Died to Byakuren's third spell card but I unlocked Stage 6 for practice mode using continues! That'll make things easier.

Holy hell UFO's Extra is really annoying. I know it's not considered to be one of the hardest but still that stage portion is a pain in the ass. So glad to be done with it.

>>34551698
It's usually very fast, within a day or two, unless something unexpected happens that'd make the game harder to patch (the th18 demo translation took a few days, so I'd guess that everything will go smoothly for the full game as well).

>>34557584
Nice bonus from the demo being out is roughly half the game gets translated months before release, plus backend stuff that makes translation possible in the first place gets figured out. That certainly doesn’t hurt when it comes to the full game getting a timely translation.

Turns out the reason why the prepackaged patches I had for thcrap weren't working was because I also deleted "update.json" with "thcrap_update.dll"
The patches work fine now

>>34555606
Congratulations! That looks really clutch. Just in time for UM, too.

Whoa, didn't realize that Unconnected Marketeers is coming out tomorrow...

A few days ago, I just said "fuck it" and decided to 1cc the games. I'm not a total beginner since the first game I technically completed was LoLK on normal pointdevice, but goddamn is actually 1ccing a game satisfying. I can't wait to get to the point where I can complete LoLK with no pointdevice on normal or even above.

I made a version of the 1CC chart with UM on it in case anybody wants one

Whoops, I guess I ought to include the fightans too. I was making a version without the fightans for myself to make room for something else. I don't really like the fightans

>>34559558
I can't pick a color for it. I'll have to play the full game to have an idea about it. Yours does look interesting.

I 1CC'd IN for the first time. FUCK everyone who says Reisen is one of the easier stage 5 bosses

>>34561054
You no-bombed Shou but think Reisen's hard? Anyways she's hard the first time, practice helps.

>>34560872
No need to thank me.

>>34561054
Well that's not true, Sanae and Mayumi are easier

>>34561191
>You no-bombed Shou but think Reisen's hard?
Yes. I have even beat Shou without misses OR bombs on at least three occasions, but keep in mind this is only Normal mode.
Here are the replays replays if you don't believe me
https://files.catbox.moe/cpphaz.rpy
https://files.catbox.moe/xbczil.rpy
https://files.catbox.moe/hq7igp.rpy

>>34561054
You should watch someone else play to get a handle on Reisen. All of her attacks are very formulaic.
Also nice Koishi drawing, I love her.

>>34561734
>Also nice Koishi drawing, I love her.
Thank you!

>>34559618
Thanks anon. I'm excited to play it in however many hours I'm waiting. This will be my first time playing a 2hu game completely blind instead of putting my monkey cap on and chimping out at any and all spoilers with jaypee. It's a weird feeling.
>>34561054
Anon... Reisen has some of the most braindead stage 5 spellcards in Touhou. The only one that isn't is her 3rd one and it's still easy. You can't get more free than find the empty gap and move with it.
1st: https://files.catbox.moe/usniko.mp4
2nd: https://files.catbox.moe/t6jalb.mp4
3rd: https://files.catbox.moe/9qkvk6.mp4
4th: https://files.catbox.moe/a5hkfu.mp4
Compare this shit to say, Orin or Shou which requires actually moving around or through dangerous/awkward spots. She makes Futo and Sanae look like scary.

>>34563153
>Shou
Take a good look at my chart again and take a look at these replays >>34561370

I saw someone say that Marisa A's Patchouli is harder than Reimu B's but I heavily disagree.

>>34563374
Might of been me. Reimu B's Hard Patchouli cards were free with the exception of Water Elf (which I can't really understand why I can't clear Water Elf consistently, it looks simple enough). On bad runs, I (rarely) die to Bury in Lake (which I actually think is the easiest spellcard Patch has; Green Storm, Forest Blaze, or Mercury Poison are probably her next easiest). Meanwhile, Sylphy (Sylphie?) Horn is like a hellish version of Green storm that I've never captured and I can't seem to get Lava Cromlech or Agni Radiance down consistently. The only card in her collection I have any confidence in as MarisaA is Emerald Megalith.

>>34558618
Oh fuck where does the time go
I've procrastinated so much, I have so much shit to get done so I'll be able to blast through UM without interruptions

>>34563259
Take a look at the dunning kruger effect and shut the fuck up already, you’re adorable for thinking your fucking normal mode clears give you any authority

>>34561054
Welcome to "fuck Reisen" club.
Fuck puzzle spellcards.
Fuck flow-killing gimmicks.
Fuck dumb visual memory tests.
Fuck awfully timed spam that's hard to see because your sprite is smeared in score popups from previous spellcard.
And most importantly, FUCK MOONIES.

>>34567514
It’s only a puzzle if you’re mentalky retarded

>>34568032
Simple puzzle is still a puzzle.
Zachtronics-style spellcard engineering game when?

>>34568225
I pray you all never play arcade shmups which actually do require memorization

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>>34569672
That's surprisingly early. Now I just gotta wait for a translation

any translations for what these do?
i love card cirno

>>34570154
>Card that has the power to call Lily White when used. She's an item carrier and has a spell card or life fragment. However, she'll also shoot bullets, so watch out! She'll get stronger each time she's called!

How long until game is translated?

>>34570154
Cute Lilly card.

anyone got a link to download the game? the version on moriyashrine doesn't seem to work for me

>>34571258
>>34563573

UM filtered me. Only managed to get to early stage 5 with all my continues.
Also, I fucking hate the deep fried look of latest games.

>>34572726
All games are deep fried these days. It feels like I'm finding less to watch and play the more companies chase trends and more gacha is made.

>>34407354
Unrelated, but is there an image like that but for all Touhou songs so I can rate how much I like each one?

um's stage 4 boss is 2hard4me

>>34573796
try touhou music sorter

Got a Sanae 1CC, though getting Byakuren's and Eirin's card almost made it feel like cheating

>still have a bunch of 1ccs to do before I get around to UM
At least all these cards will be translated by the time I get to it.

So what's the opinion of the experts on UM, difficulty-wise?
I'm between Normal and Hard in terms of skill, and I really enjoyed the difficulty here (at least as Reimu, haven't tried the others yet). Really made me hit that flow state like few games can. Then I made a stupid mistake at the start of Chimata's boss fight, lost my flow, kept fucking up and ruined a good 1cc run. Oh well.

Also whoever knows what all the new cards do needs to reply to me IMMEDIATELY

>>34570536
That's amazing.

>>34575370
>Also whoever knows what all the new cards do needs to reply to me IMMEDIATELY
Here, anon maybe this will help. Never got the fangs but I got the rest and it's pretty accurate though one thing to mention about Okuu's card is it drains power too (up to 1.0 worth). I also don't think this list is complete since there's a UFO bullet eraser not listed.

>>34575313
How many spell card bonuses did you get? My autism wants me to get as many on stages 1-3 as possible and it's hindering me

What counts as no bomb in this game?
Is the item that uses 100 power for a bomb count as bombing? What about the Okuu sun thing?

>>34575658
I got 6/8 on the first three bosses. Procced Eirin's Elixir on the second-to-last and last spells of Sannyo (mostly due to being greedy for captures like you said).
As for the rest, got all captures on 4th boss, one on 5th boss, and one on last boss (The actual survival spell).

>>34575755
The cards are fine, using a bomb is what gets you. Just be sure you don't use the wrong one in a given situation.

>>34575313
Yeah, I 1CC'd with Sanae too. Didn't pick up a Byakuren during that run but I did get lucky enough to pick up a Raiko, Narumi, and Mokou card so I was able to cheese with extra lives

>>34575887
Crap, wrong one. Guess I'll 1CC with Sakuya next.

>>34575898
She's stronger this time, but good luck.

>>34575822
>Eirin's Elixir
Oh, I'm doing it without cards except for the ones give lives

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU YOU RAINBOW DRAGON DILDO

>>34575592
Thanks for the list, this was helpful.

Extra stage seems really easy. I died to her third to last card on my first try and I struggled hard on the normal game.

Does taking the blank card at the end of stage 5 do anything? Why would they even offer it there?

Wait why can I select 3 cards for main game now? I thought that was an extra only thing
Is it related to trophies?

I 1cc'd UM Easymodo.

>>34576307
>Why would they even offer it there?
Possibly for an achievement? I dunno, I've been using the blank card to mulligan into some good shit by stage 3 but I'm starting to think it might just be better to ignore it...
>>34576427
>select 3 cards for main game

>>34576485
I'll take a screenshot to prove it later since I'm in a run now but I can now start with 3 cards in main game. I think it was because I got a different ending after beating the game with the blank card I picked in stage 5 (see this post >>34576307 )
I think you get another ending for beating the game with no items (and it counts if you pick the blank card), and maybe getting that ending for the first time unlocks the third card slot? I'm not 100% sure but this is all I can say at the moment

I just 1CC'd normal using no cards other than life cards. Does that technically count as a no card clear?

Is it just me or is the gameplay in recent games a bit too fluid to play comfortably? I honestly feel like my character is sliding on wet ice no matter how low I set the sensitivity and it's fucking me up more than anything else.

>>34576641
No, take nothing but money cards instead.

So here's the image of me being able to select 3 cards
Has anyone else been able to do this? I can't tell if it's something rare or not because I haven't really seen anyone talk about it
I have trophy number 1 and 25, those might be it. If it's not them then I have no idea what caused this

>>34576658
>I honestly feel like my character is sliding on wet ice
That usually means the latency is too high, usually from too many buffered frames if not due to hardware latency.

I beat TH18 on my first run excluding a couple false starts where I restarted on Stage 1-2 due to playing bad. Phoenix card saved a run that was all but over, I had no lives and two bombs at the end of stage 5

>>34576439
Yeah? I nomiss'd it. With Sanae. Using a bunch of cards that enhance shot damage.
I feel like the god of touhoes now.

>>34576842
that's probably it. which card are you supposed to use to unlock the "another ending"?

>>34577097
I got it after picking the blank card at the end of stage 5 and then clearing the game (so I had no cards except the blank during stage 6)
From what I've read I think you can also just play the game not picking up any cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc

>>34575903
Did it with Sakuya. My final build was kind of all over the place. Narumi + Saki (started with these two) + Utsuho + Tewi + Alice + Sanae (extra frog shots) + Sannyo. Was going to go full nuke + extra lives but somewhere along the line, my plan got all fucked up lol.
>>34577169
>I got it after picking the blank card at the end of stage 5
I'll try this next. I think I can do it with Sanae. Not too sure about anyone else right now.

Sakuya with mini hakkero. For when your maid just doesn't do enough straightforward damage

I was struggling with extra until I tried the fangs. You can almost skip entire spells with them.

Tried my first run as Reimu and it didn't go too great. Picked Sanae for the second run and then I got the 1cc. The drum card really helped a lot.

Reporting back. Got 3 cards unlocked from choosing the blank card on stage 5. I'm about to do 1CCs for Reimu and Marisa then move on to Extra mode.

I wish I could figure out what half the cards do

Fuck all of you for being good at this game and 1ccing on first attempts, I got fucked as Reimu and only made it as Marisa on my last continue.

On another note, how many games ago did ZUN ditch the boss indicator? There used to be a little thing on the bottom of the screen to let you know the boss was above that point. I miss it.

I’m not a fan of bullets rising from the bottom of the screen and this game uses a whole lot of em.

I think I’m gonna wait for a translation before I keep playing so I dont have to keep looking up card info from an incomplete demo list.

I like the music and colors, they’re relaxing which helps cool my rage at making constant rookie mistakes.

Also I did not realize til near the end of my last run the shop sells full lives/bombs, I thought those were just fragments. Dont know if I’ll buy anything but lives/Mokou from now on, at least until I can clear. Yukari’s screenwarp is still pretty good though, but not that useful against bosses.

>>34578223
>how many games ago did ZUN ditch the boss indicator?
I remember seeing it in WBaWC.

>>34578223
>On another note, how many games ago did ZUN ditch the boss indicator? There used to be a little thing on the bottom of the screen to let you know the boss was above that point.
It's still there

>>34578223
When I 1CC'd it I never got any spell card bonuses beyond stage 2 if that makes you feel any better, although I have managed to capture Sannyo's first and second spell cards and two of the cards from stage 4 and 5, but not in the same run as my 1CC

>>34578292
Guess I just need to fix my resolution then.

>>34578331
So you just bombed/died to all the post stage 2 ones? Didn’t realize there’d be that many bombs, but if you can buy a full life after each stage then that makes sense.

>>34578223
>how many games ago did ZUN ditch the boss indicator?
It's still there.

>>34578223
Boss indicator is still there, just really subtle now.

>>34578432
>So you just bombed/died to all the post stage 2 ones?
Yes, unfortunately. But the actual stages themselves are significantly easier. It's only the bosses and some mid bosses I had trouble with
>if you can buy a full life after each stage
Yep, that's exactly what I did

>>34577447
Good job anon. First day clear!
>>34578223
>Fuck all of you for being good at this game and 1ccing on first attempts
I fucking wish I was clearing on my first attempts. It took an embarrassing amount of runs to figure out how to NOT die to Misumaru's opener. Think I've been at this game for the last 8 hours and I STILL haven't 1CC'd with Reimu or Marisa yet.
>>34578432
>you just bombed/died to all the post stage 2 ones?
Not that anon but you can get alot of resources depending on what item you pick/choose up. For an example, I've been starting with Narumi's Jizo because it gives you a 1up and, at the end of every stage, a life shard (so +3 extra lives if you keep it all the way). There's a bomb version of this too iirc. Megumu's card gives you a free bomb shard if you're at max power (it's an active card). Lily White gives resources as well, though she's riskier than the others. The amount of bombs and lives you get can stack up real quick.

>>34578591
>been at this game for the last 8 hours
You must be suffering from mental fatigue by now. I 1CC'd the game in about 2-3hours. If not, than 4
>>34578591
>Not that anon but you can get alot of resources depending on what item you pick/choose up
I just chose the regular life card over and over again.

>>34578432
Yeah, you get 7 fucking bombs at the end of stage 2 and it caps out just before Sanyo if you don't use them.
Certain cards also net out a lot of potential lives (Eiki coins with a money maker like Yachie hands or mallet), on top of straight up more lives like Narumi jizo

>>34578655
I've 1CC'd with Sanae twice (both endings) and Sakuya once so at least my efforts paid off. I'd like to 1CC with the other two before moving on to extra but that's probably not going to happen today.

>>34578716
How do you get the second ending? Anon in another thread said to use Chimata's card, is that the one with the rainbow circle?

>>34578785
>is that the one with the rainbow circle?
Correct. It's the one that clears out your inventory. You have to use it on the 5th stage as >>34577169 said. You'll get a 2nd ending plus 3 card slots.

>>34578832
>the one that clears out your inventory
What if the inventory is empty? I already 1CC'd the game with an empty inventory

Should I update the 1CC chart to have Chimata card endings?

>>34578908
Those are separate endings, so sure. It's up to you.

>>34578881
>What if the inventory is empty? I already 1CC'd the game with an empty inventory
Sorry, should of been more clear. The rainbow card clears out your inventory of all the cards you have already and replaces it with the rainbow card (which effectively does nothing for you during the stage). You have to beat the final boss using her own card against her.

>>34578908
Nah, they're not really any different than the hidden endings in Shinreibyou. It's not like an entirely different route or mode.

Best cards for EX?
I feel like I have to pray Mokou shows up before the boss because I got rusty.

>>34578967
Well shit. I have to do that AGAIN, but on the bright side, this means another chance to get more spell card bonuses so I actually look forward to this

>>34579116
Yeah. Keep in mind if you pick up the rainbow card before you beat stage 5, it doesn't reappear in the shop later. On the plus side, you can use stages 1-5 to stock up on bombs and lives for Chimata. Good luck, anon.

>>34579098
Scarlet fang makes the boss itself kind of a cakewalk
Honestly the hard part is the stage portion, and I have no idea what is best for it. Sanae seems to be easier though, although I've only tried Sanae and Reimu on it so far

>>34579151
>Good luck, anon.
Thank you! In fact, I will get started on it right now! it has been a few hours since I played so hopefully the mental fatigue has worn off by now

What does the blue thing you get during the extra stage do? Does it even do anything or is it just a lore thing?

Got both of Sanae's endings, really enjoying this one. Also does anyone have tips for Tsukasa's (the stage 5 and 6 miniboss) attacks? I haven't gotten through them without bombs yet.
>>34579151
>On the plus side, you can use stages 1-5 to stock up on bombs and lives for Chimata
Sannyo's card is fantastic for this, capturing spell cards gives you life fragments
>>34579212
>Does it even do anything or is it just a lore thing?
The description just says it lets your character breathe deep in the mines, so likely just lore.

>>34579212
Lore thing, it allows the protags to breathe in low oxygen places

>>34578028
Opposite for me, I tried my first run as Sanae but didn't do enough damage, so I tried Reimu & managed to do a 1cc. The needles paired with the wolf card is nasty.

>>34579098
pretty close to an ExNN with this loadout

>>34579291
what does the middle card do?

>>34579369
It's Sanae's focused shot

>>34579369
adds one of sanae's options. it feels like it does more damage than other equipment cards but it might be placebo

>>34579450
oh nice. Who'd you use on that setup? Reimu? Sanae?

>>34579477
reimu, but i haven't tried sanae yet maybe she's better

>>34579477
I'm not the same anon actually. I just answered your question because I happened to know the answer to it. I tested it out with Marisa and Reimu in Normal, I didn't get a 1CC though, I was just restarting stage 1 a bunch of times to unlock cards

Aya card

>>34579539
>increases speed when Z and Focus are released
was honestly disappointed. I know that's part of Aya's identity but it still would have been nice to have an effect that wasn't copy and pasted from SA

You fuckers told me the Extra was easy and it's not.
Momoyo's nons are a joke but her spells and her stage don't fuck around.

>>34579564
>>increases speed when Z and Focus are released
Thanks.
>>34579564
>was honestly disappointed. I know that's part of Aya's identity but it still would have been nice to have an effect that wasn't copy and pasted from SA
I find it useful for that sphere in stage 4. It's just survival since you can't kill it, but moving to the top when possible just gets easier.

>>34580029
Replays fucking when, I just want to see what she does. I'm barely good enough to get to Momoyo before dying instantly.

>>34579564
>>increases speed when Z and Focus are released
Thanks.
>was honestly disappointed. I know that's part of Aya's identity but it still would have been nice to have an effect that wasn't copy and pasted from SA
I find it useful for the yin-yang orb in stage 4. It's just survival since you can't kill it, but moving to the top when possible just gets easier.

>>34580060
https://mega.nz/file/tDBw2JbB#L7H8xX5igbDv7UPZoC7HACSuHVS537fUPaRLglZ1cng
here's one of my dozen 1mnb's tonight. some parts aren't done the best way but hopefully it gives you an idea

>>34578661
>Yeah, you get 7 fucking bombs at the end of stage 2
Wait what

>>34578908
Unique game limitation might cover it? Although I guess most people would use that for no card runs. Should probably add it, yeah, they’re different endings and there’s a specific challenge issued to the player in order to get them.

Fuck it, here's a template for the alt endings for anyone who is interested. E1 is for endings without Chimata's card. E2 is for endings with Chimata's card

>>34580312
>no card runs
What qualifies as a no card run? Does that just mean not having any cards in the inventory? Can I use life cards and bomb cards?

>>34580340
Thanks for the chart, anon.

>>34580421
You're welcome!

lmao, the lily white card lets you summon her to the field just to beat the shit out of her for spell or life pieces

>>34580340
Thankyou anon.

>>34580380
>Can I use life cards and bomb cards?
I don’t know if there will be a consensus about that kind of thing. Up to you how much you want to challenge yourself or what you consider to ‘count’ or not.

>>34580380
No card meaning you start with no cards and you get Nazrin every time you complete a stage. If that's not possible, you go for something like the mallet and refer to the aforementioned.

>>34580568
Truly the fairycon card.

>>34580995
That'd be Yachie fingering them for extra dosh

>>34580995
I dunno if people are tabulating what each card does but I'm playing around with them
Toyosatomimi no Miko's card is an active one that does damage to the whole screen and negates some (but not all) bullets, like a low-power bomb.
Yuyuko's card will regularly erase bullets near you

>>34580849
man we didnt get a sticky after all....

>>34580206
Man that's a silly survival spellcard.

>>34581065
Hop on IRC and ask one of the mods then.

>>34581135
its too late for that, the day is over

>>34581065
Don't worry, once the new generation of English-speaking Hololives comes out our mods will remember that /jp/ exists and make a bunch of stickies for them.

>>34581194

>>34579092
TH13 has alternate endings? What's the requirement?

>>34581308
Having three or more bombs in stock at the end of a 1CC

>>34581135
can you really ask that? wouldnt you get banned for it?

>>34581353
How would I know.

>>34581369
I dont know

>>34581328
Never knew that since I bomb like a motherfucker, I'll have to replay it.

I was hoping I could get Marisa and Sakuya's Another endings today, but I've been playing like a fraud, bombing through everything without thinking. I need to practice stage 6 without items. Guess I'll save it for tomorrow.

more card abilities:
one of the newhu's cards creates two magatama to the left and right of you that erase bullets they touch
nue's card creates a ufo that rotates around you a ways away that deletes bullets it touches

>>34581896
Yes, and both are effectively useless. Okina's back door canceler is potentially useful in a couple of places, but still isn't great.

>>34581896
oh and i didn't play around with these two too much but
mamizou's card looks like it lets you take a hit without losing a life, either by losing money, or on a cooldown
kaguya's card gives you an extra spell on dying
suwako's card is attacking with explosive frogs like sanae's unfocused

>get to stage 6 on my first real 1cc attempt
>even without cards
I can feel myself improving, even if just a little. Unless you count the life cards as "using a card" ingame, then I used fucking cards. Time to practice stage 6.

>>34581937
The spinning UFO looks like it can be helpful in some dense or slow-moving patterns, like Chimata's final spellcard.