/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Question: were tube tops a thing in the 80's, or am I creating a time paradox?

Post Bern tummy NOW!

>>34361013
Here you go anon, a fresh edit just for you.

>>34361032
Good stuff.

>>34361032
I see you crossboarder

>>34361032
Great.

>>34361049
My edits are not limited to one board, thank you.

>>34361032
what's the original satoko one

>>34361085
You don't wanna know.

>>34361085
You don't want to know that anon.

>>34361085
It's best if you don't know.

>>34361093
>>34361094
I think he knows.

>>34361112
Why would he ask a question that he already knows the answer to? Your not implying he trying to get a mad lad to post the full sauce pic, are you? That would be too silly! Haha!

>>34361093
>>34361094
>>34361106
Ok I will trust you

>>34361143
Good, you won't regret it.

>>34361143
Good.
Higurashi teaches us that its always good to trust in your friends.

>>34361143
You made a wise choice anon.

I think this thread is suffering from a terminal lack of Hanyuu.

>>34361218
I banish thee!

>>34361218
There's never enough Hanyuu.

I like Matsuribayashi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXacn8HyIs

>>34361251
I'm more of a Onikakushi guy myself. Such a damn good opening chapter to a visual novel.

>>34361273
I like Matsuri's happy ending.
Most stuff I read/watch always focuses on having edgy, tragic, bittersweet or shocking endings so I never get to see people smile at the end.

>>34361298
>Most stuff I read/watch always focuses on having edgy, tragic, bittersweet or shocking endings
It never hurts to experience more lighthearted media anon, just mix up what you read/watch every now and again. Consuming only edgy media can wear down your mind fast.

>>34361346
Slice of life anime also makes me feel sad.
I don't find idolshit appealing anymore either.
Watching the occasional precure episode is the only lighthearted thing I consume right now haha...

>>34360950
fashion trends are pretty easy to research, anon. and it'd be called an anachronism.

>>34361085
it's scat which is why i don't want it on my computer

>>34361405
>Slice of life anime also makes me feel sad.
and why is that so anon? What is making you feel down?

>>34361440
I get too invested in the funny SoL animays and it hurts like a bitch when they end.
It also gives me the pain of having missed out on lots of things that are common cliches in the genre (hanging out with friends, etc).

>>34361428
Yeah, already googled it. I'm surprised even tube tops have a wikipedia page.
Apparently they are a thing from the 70's

>>34361085

>>34361536

>>34361524
>It also gives me the pain of having missed out on lots of things that are common cliches
But anon it's not too late to do those things! You can make friends and have good times and make happy memories, even in adult life. Don't give up! Fight on!

>2021 and yet /a/, /v/, and /jp/ still thinks "magic" in Umineko is simply representative of belief
R07 was right, you guys are stupid. Magic is the significance that something bears, would it be in an object, belief, idea, opinion, etc. You cannot forget the heart, so it would be shallow to undermine it as merely belief. For magic to manifest there must be some form value, sincerity in one's perception, and abstract meaning, which cannot apply to the red truth because it only takes into consideration the technical aspects of a situation. It's a shame that many here after going through over 100 hours still see magic as nothing more than imagined spells and witchcraft.

Yasu did nothing wrong

>>34361346
>>34361298
The best written shit almost always has horror elements to it. People misinterpret that to think that just making things edgy or making them have horror twists makes them good. Horror is part of the human experience, fear is part of a full spectrum of human emotions, works that explore all of these emotions with equal respect and reverence tend to be excellent.

eroka

>>34361580
What a lovely post.

>>34360933
you fucked up yet again, Hanyuufag OP

07th Expansion archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Scorpion Charm:
https://pastebin.com/aa9NjGdU

Image Based Scorpion Charm:
https://pastebin.com/G5xm1rbQ

Umineko colored truths script:
https://paste.ofcode.org/pcza5cSfFfTBgmYChFT9hu

Fucking finally.
A proper summer uniform and breast size for the Rena.
Please clap ;_;

>>34361580
[gold]This man gets it.[/gold]

>>34361580
Based.

>>34361614
How many times am I going to tell you?
I am not going to put the scorpion charm in the OP unless its completely necessary.

>>34361580
I'm glad you understand, anon.

>>34361627
do you enjoy seeing [tags]?

>>>/d/o+you+like+it+when+reds+are+a+fucking+abhorrent+mess+like+this

>>34361589
>Horror is part of the human experience, fear is part of a full spectrum of human emotions
And you are correct anon. Fear is a natural part of the human mind and experience, hell it's because of fear we made it as far as we did as a species, but to ONLY focus on Fear and other negative emotions in media is a bad thing for the mind. Like all things in life, too much of one thing can really hurt you so never forget to chase after new experiences and expand your horizons.

>>34361619
I clap.

>>34361665
Thanks

>>34361563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0wyugIHW8
Shit, I am completely smashed again.I have fucked up too much and it really feels as if I don't deserve to be happy anymore. I truly regret being born.
Wulp. Sorry about that piece of cringe writing. I am leaving.

>>34361712
Well damn anon, what did you do in order to feel this way?

>>34361654
and in a similar light, only focusing on positive emotions will diminish it's effect, because there is no darkness to contrast the light themes. When both are together in the same media, the positive emotions double up as a relief from despair, and the negative emotions become a haunting specter that tears you away from what you've grown to love and shows you just how bad things can be.

Horror movies WANT to have this effect, but they have a tendency to cheapen it by not actually fleshing out the positive aspects of the world, and not giving their shock scenes breathing room by having good character building moments. There usually isn't enough time to do all of this in a 2 hour movie format, so what you ultimately get is a bunch of edgy shock gore padded out by pointless one-dimensional character dramas. Visual Novels as a medium aren't bound by these restrictions.

>>34361712
take kratom, bro

>>34361712
you good anon?

>>34361750
>Visual Novels as a medium aren't bound by these restrictions.
Fucking this. I regret not getting in to VNs sooner, they're way better than the shit I've been watching/playing my whole life.

I still can't believe Gou just fucking wrote Hanyuu out

>>34361986
The best part of Gou was doing just that. The world breathed a sigh of relief.

>>34361986
I still can't believe a lot of things Gou did. Every time it gets brought up I have to stop myself from thinking about it before I get angry and start ranting.

https://twitter.com/elementalstory/status/1384364185396539392
Not exactly sure what this is but appears to be some sort of collab/tie-in with another gacha or something.

>>34362108
Filtered

>>34362022
Did this dude base his art on the pachinko sprites?

>>34362149
no u

>>34362108
At this point I'm more worried about what Sotsu will do

>>34362206
I'm trying to remain optimistic. I'm not sure if it's really working.

Hypothetically what would happen if you nibbled the end of Bern's tail?

>>34362268
ask ryukishi.

>>34361986
Hanyuu was "written out" the second Featherine showed up in Umineko, you're just too dumb to realize that and you've been coping with it until the very minute it was confirmed in Gou.

>>34362172
I don't see it.

Lmao I learned that Motoi Sakuraba composed music for Higurashi Mei of all things.
If you don't know who he is, he is the legendary memester that has composed really good soundtracks (Golden Sun, Dark Souls, many Tales games, etc).

>>34362494
k

>>34362494
So is Mei a good gacha?

>>34362494

>>34362494
Well that's both simultaneously cool and annoying. He made anything good for it or is he phoning it in?

Rika is Featherine.
She is the one with creator powers (as demonstrated in Matsuribayashi).
Hanyuu is some kind of failsafe to ensure her survival.

>>34362551
ok

>>34362519
>good gacha
oxymoron.

>>34362538
Are you fucking kidding me, they really did literally waste his talent on this fucking stupid gacha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KaN5Vub_-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NNskD0h9xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDgCA4PBVBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsMMMr84rwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSqU-fBljm8
This one sounds like a song that didn't make it to Golden Sun lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1AvXIz67tg

Why the fuck wasn't he hired instead to do the Ciconia soundtrack?

>>34362591
>he made this shit for a fucking gacha
These songs just make me want Golden Sun back. Fuck...

>>34362607
Not me, that shit is overrated as hell just because gba kiddies had fuck else on their little system to consider a good jrpg, and nobody likes golden sun 3.

>>34362591
Ciconia's OST sucked so bad, man, how do you have such dogshit and forgettable OST after Umineko? What happened?

>>34362591
How can anyone still like Ryukishi after selling out our precious Higurashi to become a soulless gacha?

>>34362635
He didn't commit Nasu sin of killing off the entire company to just live from the gacha and nothing else.

Lion's gay little badminton obsession

>>34362615
Well, I suppose part of it is nostalgia, but I do kinda want them to actually try and make something with some more innovation involving the franchise, but after Dark Dawn being such a disappointment it feels like we're not getting anything else. It's a shame, but I suppose it's just another JRPG in the pile at the end of the day.

>>34362615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ZdAZO9FvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdjWoed-dLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SJsDCMyU9c
The game maybe is overrated but the OST certainly isn't.

>>34362288
Most people didn't expect any of the Featherine lore to ever apply to Higurashi, before that silhouette in Gou's opening. And even afterwards there were people in denial. Especially since we had gotten post-Umineko Higurashi content and none of it seemed to acknowledge any of that lore before Gou.

What's his endgame?

>>34362519
Gameplay-wise it's a cheap Princess Connect clone and the gacha itself is fairly stingy. I've liked some of the stories I've read though (only through youtube videos though, fuck starting another gacha and apparently it's region locked too). It's surprising how some stuff like sailor Hanyuu and the space sci-fi event can end up with serious plots.

>>34362839
Marrying Chloe and delivering Okonogi Chops directly to her womb

>>34362839
He's a witch of the senate that should explain his end game

>>34361590
words can't describe how much I want to slide my dick inside this gremlin cunt

>>34362839
He's R07's self-insert idealized version of how he sees himself from his past

>>34362519
It's really obviously a low-effort cashgrab (it's just Priconne) which is unfortunate since it's not like the new characters or plot are bad.

Post THAT.

>>34363118

wtf why is that rena has very large bobs

>>34363118

>>34363118

>>34363118
> Rika looks up in horror

>>34363162

>>34363162
>MEGA COCK

Rika's futa milk.

>>34363206
>OH RIKA I'M GONNA-

>>34363118

>>34363118

[red]test[/red]

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1054200224&ref=list

>>34363118

>>34363308
What's he doing?

>>34363118

>>34363325
I only see this stupid edit on /a/, which means, YOURE AN /a/ REFUGEE!

>>34363330
weak

>>34359273
All the CGs.
https://imgur.com/a/79aAdC3

>>34363330
let me in.

MY DICK SHOOTS OUT CUM LIKE IT'S A SHOTGUN YEAH BABY BLASTING ALL OVER RIKA'S FACE NO REGRETS NO APOLOGIES NO DO-OVERS IT'S SEMEN TIME NOW

My "doggy coin" shares doing a little something!

the script looks so much better with the normal font (default is bold)

>>34363368
go to bed, satoko

you will all pay for what you've done, the clock is ticking...

>>34363420
go to bed, Maria

>>34363420
Kids are not scary.

>>34363410
I agree, normal looks better for longer posts.

>>34363425
I choose my own path, trivial matters such as "bedtimes" are useless to me. The time is quickly approaching, you will all pay for what you've done to this place. Very soon...

i want chloes tits around my dick

>>34363408
DO I BUY? I feel like it's time for it to die

>>34363441
You'll regret not getting enough sleep young lady.

Just fapped to Satoko.

>>34363441
>slap
Go to bed and stop acting stupid and weird, this is why you don't have any friends, Maria.

So we all know Ryukishi's done WTC but have you ever actually cried reading WTC novels?

>>34363468
You've inspired me to do the same.

>>34363478
What does the first half of this sentence have to do with the latter?

I'm going to make a Rena tulpa.

>>34363478
I have a sad anime backstory so Rena's backstory and most of Rosa's abusive scenes hit me. I felt really bad for Maria when Erika tore into her but I didn't cry.

>>34363451
>>34363476
Kihihi~, perhaps I will indulge in these human vices that you push on me such as sleep, it's important not to forget where you come from. Anyways, I will be drifting off to the world of sleep now, oh yeah, don't worry about wishing me "sweet dreams", a great witch such as me always has control over their dreams.

There's nothing I want more than to be "raped" by Rika-chama.

>>34363501
I hope you screw up you lucid dreaming and give yourself sleep paralysis, you little shit.

>>34363500
damn, sorry anon. I hope you're better now.

>>34363501
I hope the "black witch" beats you so hard that she has to hide you indoors for 4 months while the bruises heal

>>34363516
Most of that happened when I was a child so it doesn't really consume my life, but it does make me weak when characters with a divorce background or abusive mothers are involved. It doesn't help that Ryukishi used to work in child services so he saw a lot of this shit firsthand.

hey
hey anon
guess what anon
hey anon
i just fucked your mom

>>34363543
I'm sorry to hear that anon, I hope your asshole recovers soon.

>>34363550
How did you know your mom was into pegging?

>>34363556
She doesn't know how to use incognito mode.

What's her fetish?

>umineko thread on /a/
Heh, that's interesting.

>>34363584
ask ryukishi.

>>34363584
bad trigger discipline

>>34363584
little blonde boys

>>34363647
not the first time
probably not the last

>>34361298
agreed, too bad about the cringe that is gou

so wait...
who activated the bomb?

>>34363800
?

Why does the Umineko screenshot generator take so long to load?

>>34363800
The bomb Yasu prepared is rigged up to a grandfather clock and will detonate at 12 AM if not deactivated even if they die.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOO I DONT WANT TO READ THE BIBLE

>>34363886
You no longer have a choice

>>34363886
the bible is actually cool, just read a bit each day to digest it better and you'll be done by the time phase 2 comes out

>>34363886
does ciconia tell you to read the bible???

I HATE GOD (but I believe he exists)

>>34363939
If he made the universe billions of years ago then he probably did it for something else and we're just a byproduct.

>>34363952
We're not seeing any K-3 civilisations anywhere in the nearest 100,000 galaxies.
Considering the timescales, we're most likely first and maybe even the only technological species in this universe. Interesting enough for a god.

why is the whore of babylon dressed like an egyptian

Hi I just woke up sup

>>34364065
sus

>>34364006
100,000 only? Isn't there billions of them?

>>34364079
I disagree Ange

>>34364082
We checked the 100,000 nearest galaxies.

>>34364089
How? We don't have spaceships that can travel to them.

>>34364089
None of them had any life form?

Atheistbros, I don't feel so good. I thought the existence of life wasn't a miracle. Now I'm certain that God 'exists'.

>>34364093
Your checking whether the galaxy's light is natural or if it looks like there is some kind of large scale computation/manufacturing ongoing. Because of the 2nd law of thermdynamics, super advanced aliens can't hide from us.
>>34364101
Statistically, aliens would either be hundreds of millions of years more or less advanced than us.
So there are either insects or multi-galaxy spanning civilisations out there. We looked for the latter. Didn't find them.

I believe God exists because it's me. Hi guys what's going on

>>34364117
Give me a girlfriend who accepts me for who I am

why is this thread suddenly filled with ABN lackeys

>>34364125
Sorry but I can't produce such miracle

>>34364113
you should give up now and realize the conversation youre trying to have is utterly pointless
i also dont believe aliens exist but every conversation turns out the exact same way with the same topics statistics and probability brought up every single time

>>34364113
>Didn't find them
Try again, also are you an astrophysicist or something?

>>34364148
>i also dont believe aliens exist
How can an Umineko reader say such thing! Have you heard of the Devil's proof?

>>34364150
I am a detective.

>>34364166
What kind of detective? Do you only work with data and statistics? Have you ever been in space before? Why did you use "we" as if you're part of a large corporation or something? How come you know the 2nd law of thermodynamics when you're just a detective?

>>34364178
I'm not discussing this any further with a mere piece.

>>34364187
Rude, answer my questions you fraud.

>>34363478
Yes. Often. When the gang was murdered and everyone died in Higurashi, at the happy end of Matsuribayashi, when Erika died and during the entirety of Twilight.
I'm not ashamed and I'll never be. It's manly to show emotions.

Finished Umineko a couple of days ago and I'm about to play Higurashi with the 07th Mod. I came here to ask if I should get the new or old BGM? Sadly I got spoiled years ago but hope this doesn't ruin my experience that much.

>>34363830
is that what the problem is? I was under the impression that it was literally non-functional

>>34364262
Definitely old. Nothing like playing onikakushi for the first time with original BGM and SFX.

Also, imo even if you already know the story most of the time the execution is still very good so even if you're not surprised it's still a pretty engaging read. Higurashi is simply stunning, i hope you'll have a great experience with it like i did anon.

>>34364150
Not him, but astrophysicists have been studying this issue for a while - it's one of the many facets of the Fermi Paradox.
I'm not qualified to talk on what has been tried and to what extent, but I do know for certain that, if any civilization exists that is technologically advanced to be detected by us without a shadow of a doubt, we haven't found them yet, or at least such information has not been publicly released. What is expected is that, with trillions of stars and possibly trillions of planets (our ways of detecting exoplanets are pretty primitive and don't give us the full picture most of the time), extraterrestrial life SHOULD exist SOMEWHERE. It's just that we've never found it in a level that's equal or well above our own. Not that, you know, we've found it at all.

>>34363478
I don't know why, but seeing any character portrayed by Ono being sad makes me sad too. So basically I almost teared up both when Battler was frustrated about chick Beato and when Akasaka realized he fucked up at the end of Himatsubushi, weirdly enough.

>>34363478
Yes, Meakashi, Tsumihoroboshi, Matsuribayashi, Umineko EP3, EP6, EP8.

>>34364364
Thanks anon, this is line is really convincing. It's either we're a part of a cycle or we're really special after all.

>>34364150
There are a lot of things to take into consideration when it comes to observable entities in the universe, but we’ll look at some average numbers. From earth we can observe 31% of the total number of galaxies in the universe, which is still expanding. Within the observable galaxy region there are as many as 2 trillion galaxies, or as few as several billion, we haven’t counted them all yet. Of those that have been more thoroughly investigated there are on average 100 million stars per galaxy. So the likelihood is that within these quadrillion solar systems, there probably does exist some form of alien life. But it’s hard to observe anything but very large masses at this distance. The next best thing could be some form of transmission coming from deep space but nothing has ever been released to the public that definitively show the existence of alien life.

>>34363478
Umineko ep 8 ???
Cried like a bitch

tsumihoroboshi moment when k1 remembers onikakushi

Minagoroshi ending

>>34364148
Different anon here. I doubt space aliens exist, but I've seen pretty convincing arguments for the existence of interdimensional aliens, like "dmt entities", intelligent forms that are imperceptible to human senses (sight, hearing, etc.) but can still be perceived through a chemical reaction in the brain.

I'm pretty on the fence about it, because most of it seems like conjecture and unfalsifiable stuff, and on the surface it just looks like the ramblings of druggies talking about their weird psychedelic dreams, but there's a spooky fact about it that always sticks with me in the back of my mind and haunts me.

Mushrooms, LSD and shit like that, all of that shit is external substances that fucks with your perceptions and makes you see the world the wrong way.

DMT is a naturally occurring substance that already exists inside your body.
As in, it's already there, you, the one reading this have DMT inside your brain at this very moment.
It's a substance that's already naturally produced in most living things. People extract DMT for drug use out of plants, but you're essentially just overdosing on a mystery chemical that's already inside your brain.

Pretty much EVERYBODY who takes DMT "dies", has some bizarre exchange with weird psychedelic beings that they barely understand, and wakes up normal like nothing happened within like 15 minutes. They obviously don't actually die, their bodies function normally the entire time, but that's how the experience is consistently described by the subject, even in controlled environments. I'd like to see more studies on what exactly DMT is, and why it does what it does, but it's not easy to find it, nor is it easy to study it, because for whatever reason it's classified as a schedule I drug (so I guess everyone on earth is a criminal.)

>>34364512
I don't know if all that's real, but I do know that if we ever get to reach any sort of genuine understanding of how the human mind truly works sometime in the future, it's very likely we're going to stumble upon something we weren't expecting, or even wish we didn't know.

>>34364512
Hohohoho, now I wanna try some DMT.

>>34364485
>>34364234
Honestly Minagoroshi's ending did the opposite for me because it leaves on a high note where Rika will now remember who the main culprit is (or rather, Hanyuu will) and shows that the true solution is for everyone to work together.

Rika-chama's fragrant pee...

>>34364526
I already don't believe in free will, so there's not much that's going to shock me in that regard, but I feel like there's something special about this chemical that might someday serve as a key to understanding what humans are, why their brains function the way they do, and what exactly we're experiencing right now.

>>34364534
Everyone still dies, I don't care about Rika.

>>34364565
The one I'm willing to believe is that we live in a simulation. It's not that I schizopost and go "oh god I found my identical stranger it's a glitch in the matrix aahhghhh" but just that, as our technology improves, it becomes easier to conceptualize a future where we can simulate an universe, and following that train leads to the conclusion that we might be being simulated by an entity beyond our comprehension. It's not scary to me because even if I'm just code, the experiences I have and the emotions I feel still seem real to me, but it is cool to think about.

>>34364280
Maybe it is but it says "Screenshot preview is loading"

>>34363830
I think it finally fucking died. I used to get around it by switching browsers until one worked but there isn't a single one that works for me now. The generator is archaic as hell.
Then again, Italianon is using SOME kind of method to make his pictures, and I refuse to believe he has the intelligence to use image editing software to make a convicing screenshot, so maybe it still works.

>>34364576
it's kind of haunting to imagine that none of this shit we're experiencing is real and the "real world" might be some incomprehensible psychedelic place inhabited by weird formless self-assembling intelligent beings

>>34364599
even if he's a retard he's clearly autistic, maybe he focused some of that tism and actually modded Umineko to generate his screenshots

>>34364534
Yeah, that's right, but when Rika had already died and saw her dead friends who stay with her until the end, I cried

>>34364620
I winced, honestly. I already had a hard time with the fingernail scene in Meakashi so I was fully expecting Ryukishi to have a graphic description of Rika being torn into, but thankfully that didn't happen and it was just very sad instead.

>>34364627
>>34364620
>>34364567
You guys heard the drama cd version of that scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHqUVnLJppI

>>34364599
Maybe it's undergoing maintenance and we're finally getting ep7 and 8 characters haha...

>Erika has a purple scythe yet never uses the purple truth

>>34363478
Minnagoroshi always makes me cry as well as matsuribayashi.
In umineko i cried in ep 8 and everytime a parent finds their kids dead.
Didn't really cry in Ciconia but the christmas party just left me empty and i ended up drinking myself to sleep.

>>34364565
I believe free will exist. I've read some about it and the argument most people use is the readiness potential, meaning your brain decides what to do before you're conscious about it. For example if you chose Umineko instead of Higurashi to read, that was the only choice you had, because your brain has already decided and relayed the illusion of choice to you. You could've never chosen Higurashi.
People use this to prove free will is nonexistent but I think it does, because your brain is still a part of you, it just has a higher place on the hierarchy. You (your brain) still has the ability to decide what to do, thus it's free, the consciousness is just a part of you, not everything.

>>34364760
Purple Truth isn't anything all that crazy anyway. It's just a fancy red except the culprit can lie, and it's really only useful in a situation as specific as Bernkastel's game.

>>34364760
Because purple is for playing games where you have to weed out liars. Erika is untrustworthy and manipulative, but she also doesn't lie; she specializes in using the truth to deceive you.

>>34364733
Why don't they just say so then?

>>34364599
I don’t think Italianon ever used any of them. I think he uses paint for the most part.
I’m not going to look at his shitty Booru to check though.

Good morning!! I love my wife Ange!!

>>34364987
Too slim. Who is this?

>>34364987
You say that everyday

Ange it's time for your plant transformation drugs
I won't forget to water you daily. I promise.

>>34364990
An artistic but not necessarily accurate depiction of my wife

>>34364996
I love Ange everyday!

Ange is ass

>>34364778
not that anon but the argument most people use to disprove free will isn't neuroscience stuff but just hard determinism and causality

Post moles

>>34364987
Young Eva done badly.

>>34365215
Gunhilde is a dumb swedish slut who goes out to zoomer rock concerts to get fucked by strangers

>>34365219
Hot

>>34363886
Are The Chronicles of Narnia enough of an alternative?

>>34362591
Good to see I'm bot the only one who thinks Ciconia OST is garbage.

>>34363143
Which?

>>34365302
I wouldn't say Ciconia's ost is garbage, it's just kind of underwhelming

>>34365258
No. But CS Lewis is a pretty good author.

>>34365323
It's garbage by WTC standards.
Onikakushi-hen had more memorable OSTs, even though all of them were royalty free music from the interwebz

My balls on Shion's face

>>34365302
Ciconia ost isn't garbage though. It's just painfully mediocre most of the time. Only scene where the ost is really remarkable is the last 20 minutes

>>34365302
>>34365358
Ciconia's OST is miles better than Onikakushi's, fucking nostalgiafags I swear.
Show me a single track that rivals Apocalypsis Ciconia I+II, Empty Skies, Utopia or Ominous3.
I can't believe there are people arguing in favor of Higurashi's 20 second loops.

I literally remember none of the music in Ciconia.

>>34365358
I think you're massively overstating how bad it is, overall Ciconia's ost is pretty bland and generic but it still has some really fucking good tracks that are infinitely more memorable than Chpater 1 of Higu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJSsPliUKxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQrXrJoooWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7qMppO8E8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Lgw9XHiPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrPllRrw6c

I haven't read Ciconia yet.I might not even start reading it until Ryukishi confirms that he is indeed working on phase 2 and when we have a release date.

>>34365448
ok

>Apocalypsis II

>>34363118

>>34365302
>Ciconia OST is garbage
What? Its not a 10/10 masterpiece like umineko but its been perfectly fine so far.

How old are the characters in Ciconia anyway?

>>34363118

>>34365522
Old enough to be your siblings.

>>34365473
It's ironic that the Order of the Public Bath oath was the thing responsible for all of the Gaunlet Knights killing each other, if Miyao did literally nothing then everyone could have held back and wouldn't have been forced to kill each other. I wanna see Miyao with PTSD in Phase 2 knowing that he basically killed all of his friends with naive idealism

Hello
*poster counter is increased by 1"

>>34365562
go back

>>34365562
Which WTC would you fuck?

>>34365572
Sumire of the Twilight

UUUUOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH

Why did they **** Tomitake-san?

>>34365565
back where?

>>34365554
I just wanna see phase 2 desu...

>>34365608
back there

uhhh which pregnant wtc today?

>>34365621
Eva-Beatrice

SEX w

>>34365621
Me and my wife Ange!!
You're invited to the baby shower!!

>>34365554
This was what made me just feel sad playing Ciconia. The whole time you just see these kids so passionate to do all sort of things and to make change but you know they only backed themselves into the corner without even realizing it.

Makes me feel genuinely bad for them eventhough most are just background props

Italianon is dead

Which WTC should I decapitate and neckfuck?

>>34365646

>>34365646
Ebaaaaaa

>>34365666
>>34365673
You really hate your mom that much, Joji?

>>34365611
never heard of it

>>34365686
okay

>>34365047
>hard determinism and causality
Can anyone even prove this? It's the same tier as schizo conspiracy theories.

>>34365448
and why should I care?

>>34365759
Aren't most philosophers like compatibilists at the very least? Things are caused by a long chain of antecedent causes which led up to the present moment isn't like some big schizo conspiracy thing.

>>34365554
I wonder how many of them survived. The only ones we saw dead are Lingji, Lilja and Gunhild, right?

>>34365759
Well, hard determinism (or rather, mechanism, if you consider quantum mechanics) is a pretty natural consequence of assuming that the world is based on physics and there is nothing supernatural that can influence it. But even without assuming physicalism, I kind of have a hard time imagining what a world with non-causal influences would even look like.

>>34365408
>Ciconia's OST is miles better than Onikakushi's
AHAHAHAHA
Demonic Institute alone wipes the floor with everything Ciconia has to offer.

>>34365794
That's causality, it doesn't contradict with free will, but determinism does.

>>34365621
Rika, but laying eggs instead of live birth

>>34365837
But determinism is a natural consequence of believing that everything is causal, no?

>>34365819
I mean it's okay, it's a good song for heightening the atmosphere. But it's literally a 15 second loop

>>34365837
If we assume causality then determinism logically follows. The discussion is whether or not this determinism contradicts free will, which is the point of compatibilism as a philosophy.

>>34365445
What I don't really comprehend about Ciconia's ost isn't even that it's bad (I don't think it is) but that everyone who signed up for Umineko seems to have completely vanished by the time it was in development. I can't imagine why they wouldn't come in again, unless they did and their songs are reserved for later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wb-tFSRCnU

>>34365644
He’s dead here but he threatens to come back regularly on Twitter. You could get hit by commit the same sin again.

>>34365841
I don't think so, causality is a chain of actions and determinism says those actions were predetermined and nothing will change their course, when that might not be the case.
>>34365851
If it's this kind of predeterminism then it surely does.

Discussing the existence of free will is on-topic because of brain parasites

>>34365858
It's possible Ryukishi wanted a different feel and atmosphere for it since the setting is so different as a futuristic sci-fi setting, but I dunno. I hope they come back in later phases.

>>34365766
Because someone, somewhere, asked.

>>34365895
find me that person

>>34365859
I got something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75SatFUAnoI

>>34365904
Hello. I am that person

>>34365948
untrue

>>34365879
Well. Assume I perfectly know the positions and momenta of all particles at the beginning of the universe, as well as the causal laws governing their movements. Now I can predict the state of the universe with perfect accuracy at any point in time simply by following the chain of causes forwards, effectively "simulating" the universe. So assuming that everything is causal and there is nothing outside the universe that could influence it, I can predict anything that will happen. Full causality implies determinism.

The only way around this is by assuming some non-causal element like time travel or true randomness.

At least we can all agree determinism sometimes

>>34365949
Prove it or don’t ask again.

It is determined in the weavings of the universe that, tonight, I will fap to Satoko.

>>34365879
>If it's this kind of predeterminism then it surely does.
I personally can't reconcile actual free will with determinism but my philo/physics 101 is pretty dogshit so if someone smarter explained it to me I could probably be swayed. My understanding though is that while compatibilists believe in basic cause and effect and soft determinism they believe that you still have freedom to make choices within that framework.

>>34365959
Just to be clear, while I can perfectly predict what will happen in the universe from outside the universe, I cannot interact with the universe in any way (say, to tell my prophecies to the beings inhabiting that universe) or my predictions will be broken by the very act of telling them.

Welcome to armchair philosophy and physics general

didn't ask

>>34365977
Perhaps it is determined. However, as a mere inhabitant of the universe, you can never know that for sure, child of man. You could always have an unfortunate accident, after all.

>>34365801
We didn't saw any of them dead, we saw them disappearing into explosions and falling into the sea. The one most likely to have died is Lingji though.

>>34366093
Please don't finger my prostrate haha

The space plot in Mei seems to be a continuation of Outbreak, but not of Kamikashimashi.

It takes place 1000 years in the future. In the past a virus originating from Hinamizawa rapidly wiped out 99.999% of human popularion. The remaining humans managed to leave the dead planet and form a successful space-faring civilization. But... the disease followed and is now threatening the entire galaxy.
There's no mention of the other gods, but Hanyuu is still one. Watching over all these parallel worlds.

>>34366123
Hanyuu's body was literally constructed for sex, how is this even possible?

>>34365959
>>34366023
This is practically impossible, but I see what you mean.
But I doubt our universe runs that way, isn't it expanding? Is that predictable too?
>>34366023
>my predictions will be broken by the very act of telling them
Why? Since you know the laws of their movement, you could even predict you telling them that in the future. Of course, unless you're a supernatural power or something, then sure. But if humans attempted it, they'd be predicting themselves telling themselves about predicting themselves.

>>34366097
Anon! Run! She has her milking finger outstretched!

>>34366071
Dead meme

>>34366097
You are not the boss of me, child of man.

>>34366142
>>34366147
OH SHIT WHY IS THE GROUND SO UNEVEN

Oh no, what a terrible th ing it must be to be milked by Featherine Augustus Aurora......

>>34365843
Length != quality.
Onikakushi OSTs may be simple, but they set the atmosphere perfectly.
Ciconia fails to do so.

>>34366134
For the first question, the universe's expansion is predictable. However, quantum mechanics, as far as we know, is genuinely random, or non-causal. So technically the future state of the universe cannot be predicted, although we can predict what futures are possible in the first place.

For the second one, because humans can adapt their actions intelligently. For the simplest case, imagine that you have to choose between chocolate and vanilla ice cream, and my task is to predict what you will choose. I can do this perfectly because I know the full state of the universe. However, imagine that I tell you that you will choose chocolate ice cream. Now you can think "I'll just do the opposite of whatever this bitch says", as you are wont to do because of your personality. So you choose vanilla ice cream. Foreseeing this, I predict that you'll choose vanilla and tell you that. But now you'll think the same thing and choose chocolate. So you can see that I cannot simultaneously perfectly predict what you will do and tell you that prediction.

How accurate is this? I'm referring to the fans of the characters rather than the characters themselves.

>>34366203
That's not true at all though, tracks like Ominous3 are perfect at setting the atmosphere of the Three Kings and the general spooky secret society and hidden knowledge thing that's going on, the same with Apocalypsis II which is caps off the entire haunting ending of Ciconia and is one of the most memorable songs and moments arguably in the entire series.

>>34366238
Erika should be more left, all of those Erikafags posts about being tortured and beaten to death by Erika

Stop... my balls are dry and my ass hurts... Please...

>>34365445
>Rouge
>Omnious3
>Good
You fucking wot? I wouldn't even bother searching for those mediocre trash. Onious 3could be good if it didn't ruin the track with the soap opera singing.
>memorable
Sure it is, since you hear the same OSTs so often and for so long that it literally burns into your brain. Higurashi had balance, it didn't loop the same OST for 10 minutes, throughout multiple chapters.
Ciconia Phase 1 has the WEAKEST soundtrack out of all WTC games.

>>34366266
Ominous3 was good at first, but using it every time the three kings appear kills the ambiance.

I just want to violently assault Lady Bernkastel.

i can live solely off of witch milk

They didn't use Ominous3 enough.

What if Featherine wrote "...and then Anon came"?
haha

>>34366384
"...and then Anon became Featherine's sex slave for the rest of eternity"

>>34366221
>I cannot simultaneously perfectly predict what you will do and tell you that prediction
Again, unpredictable events will only happen if you're a supernatural being. Humans are part of the universe you know everything of. If they try to break the prediction, they will fail.

>>34366299
>You fucking wot? I wouldn't even bother searching for those mediocre trash.
They're pretty decent, they're not like the height of all WTC songs but they're pretty good.
>Onious 3could be good if it didn't ruin the track with the soap opera singing.
Soap Opera singing is fucking great, especially for the atmosphere and context the song is played.
>Higurashi had balance, it didn't loop the same OST for 10 minutes, throughout multiple chapters.
This is explicitly the opposite of true, Higurashi loops the same 20 second royalty free music over and over again to an insane degree.

>Ciconia Phase 1 has the WEAKEST soundtrack out of all WTC games.
Sure, I already said Ciconia's ost was underwhelming overall. My point is that saying that the entire ost was garbage and had no good songs to the point that Higurashi chapter 1 easily beats and doesn't have exactly the same problem in regards to repeating songs over and over and over again when a lot of the songs are literally just 15 second loops is just delusional. You can accept that something is underwhelming without it automatically being complete fucking trash garbage which is the worst thing in the world because xyz.

>>34366322
Yeah true, doesn't stop the fact that it's fucking great though.

>>34366377
IF YOU'RE PICKING A FIGHT THEN REPLY TO ME, YOU LITTLE SHIT.
SAY THAT AGAIN, NOW TO MY FACE.

Ominous3 should've been the default theme in the public bath as well.

>>34366414
Well, yes, I can brainwash you to always choose vanilla, or I can force you to mistakenly say vanilla even though you meant to say chocolate, or I can give you the prediction in just the right way that you won't want to resist it, and so on and so on. But if I feel like being fair, I cannot predict your actions because your actions depend on my predictions.

>>34366483
>I cannot predict your actions because your actions depend on my predictions
Hmm? I thought we're talking on a quantum level, since you know perfectly know the positions and momenta of all particles at the beginning of the universe, as well as the causal laws governing their movements, how can a mere human, who is composed of those same particles, affect your predictions?

Ange
Fat

I think Gou is great and far better than DEENgurashi.

>>34366238
Erika should be more center. Anons want to both step on and be stepped on by her.

>>34366566
When I make a prediction, I have to interact with the universe in some way, for example, to manipulate the electrical activity of your brain to make you hallucinate my presence. Thus, from that point on the universe is affected by my predictions. As long as I don't interact with the world, I can predict things perfectly.

Is Enje the only WTC for Sfags?

>>34366615
Sfags?

>>34366623
As opposed to Mfags

>>34366634
anon what the fuck are you talking about

>>34366604
>for example, to manipulate the electrical activity of your brain to make you hallucinate my presence.
Well that means you're a supernatural being and it's obvious you'll break your prediction.

Irrumatio with _____

>>34366651
That a non-supernatural being will break their prediction is even more obvious. If you are part of the universe, your very act of making predictions will affect the universe around you in ways you can't predict.

>>34366580
I agree, maybe its because many anons here are depressed fucks like the Japanese, but I've never liked Matsuribayashi or any perfect endings like that

I'm LITERALLY

inside Bernkastel's right nipple

>>34366745
Matsuri was bad because it was cringeworthy, not because it was a perfect ending.

>>34366701
>>34366701
>If you are part of the universe, your very act of making predictions will affect the universe around you in ways you can't predict
Anon no, you don't get it.
Let's say the universe started a year ago. A year ago, you as a supernatural being, knew the exact positions of every particle and their movements, so you perfectly predicted the universe.
This year, a human decided to predict the universe. They would have to calculate the exact positions of every particle a year before, when the universe started. And if they follow their course for a year, they will find themselves trying to predict the universe, predicting themselves predicting the universe. Nothing will happen, nothing will break your prediction as a supernatural being, because all of their predictions and thoughts run under the same particles that you predicted, they don't matter.
It's like you're a 4D being when the universe is 3D. You predicted the entire course of that 3D universe, now, can anything inside it, including humans, affect your prediction as a four dimensional being? [red]It is impossible.[/red]

where is the mystery? this is all fantasy.

>>34364512
I'll have one of each

>>34366849
I'll try to clarify a bit. This is a bit complicated. Say (purely hypothetically) that I am God and can decide the intial state of the universe. Furthermore, I set up the initial state so that at some point in the future a person will be born and they will, at some age, randomly hallucinate me telling them whether they will choose chocolate or vanilla ice cream. I can do this because I can perfectly predict what future any initial state will lead to. And I can indeed perfectly predict what they will choose given that I *myself* have already chosen what I will predict. The problem is the part where I try to have the brain state of the human depend on my actual prediction, which changes depending on that brain state! So my prediction depends on my prediction, that is the paradox. If I simply lied to the human there would be no problem for me to predict what they will do.

Marry fuck kill

>>34366949
>>34366980
the duality of a man

>>34366980
Marry Lambda (obviously)
Fuck Beatrice (she's a real woman in the meta)
Kill Bern (I don't like competition)

>>34366701
>>34366849
I thought you guys were talking about causality and determinism and free will, what do predictions have to do with it? Surely human predictions and their thought processes that lead them to making those predictions are also subject to cause and effect? Doesn't the idea of predictions affecting the universe presuppose that humans have free will to act outside of cause and effect to act?

>>34366949
Hoooh, I see.
This would work because your prediction is an information that is not a part of the universe, so it's completely fine.
But practically, it's still up to debate. I'm not sure how you can send an information from a higher being to a lower being, maybe you can translate it, who knows, it's not like you can try anyways.
>>34367041
>Doesn't the idea of predictions affecting the universe presuppose that humans have free will to act outside of cause and effect to act?
Yes that's what I've been saying, but anon basically proved that wrong, I think.

>>34366980
Marry lambda
Fuck bern
Kill Beato

>>34366980
Marry 34
Fuck Bernbern
Kill Beatranny

I can't live without my epic samefag roleplay

>>34367125
there's a thread up on /qst/ and there will probably be one up later

>>34367125
>samefag
meds, NOW

>>34367125
Holy based
Not you btw

I can't live without bitching about literally everything

I can't live

*slurple durple*

What are the odds I actually, literally have a split personality?

>>34367247
literally me

>>34367268
That means you had double the odds to be a cool person and you failed twice! Unlucky!

EAT A BEEF

Forced homoworks.

Satoko.

One reply and I cover a piece of meat in bleach and throw it in the neighbours garden for their dog to eat.

More Satoko.

>>34365608
back there benjamin

>>34367308
didnt ask

Even more Satoko.

>>34367322
brb

>>34367322
God I hate you.

JC Satoko, but also delusions of JC Hanyuu.

>>34367332
and why should I care?

Why Satoko specifically?

>>34367339
stop spamming please

Erika is Rosa

Ooishi is Hanyuu

>>34367300
hngg mgmghhggffggg

>>34367339
Cute socks.

>>34367402
I want to push her into a shallow river and force her head underwater until she stops kicking and struggling and finally accepts her mortality and the fact that she is going to die by my hands, and then pull her out at the last moment and punch her in the face.

>>34367342
I think you should give it some thought. Most people have abandoned the stale ‘didn’t ask’ meme.

>>34367268
Research suggests that legit DID is formed during very early years and usually as a reaction to abuse or some form of stress. So unless you had an awful childhood the likelihood is near zero, and even then it's a pretty rare coping mechanism for the brain to take so it's still rather unlikely.

>>34367428
dont care

>>34367375
I don’t get what Italianon thinks he’s proving here, but then I never get anything he says.

>>34367074
Thank you for the discussion, child of man, it was highly entertaining. Let us meet again in another fragment.

>>34367434
Maybe stop spamming please?

>>34367434
didnt ask

>>34367411
Hm, you know what, making cute little girls suffer in the worst way possible seems really fun.

>>34367430
I grew up in a bilingual household, and everyone who bullied me only spoke one of the two languages. Predictably the "me" that speaks that language is a fucking loser.

>>34367462
>>34367463
DON'T CARE
>DIDN'T ASK
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Satoko's hairband > Eua's horns > Hanyuu's horns

>>34366299
>>34366322
>playing fascism every time sometspooky happens for three chapters = GOOD
>playing Ominous3 at few, genuinely spooky scenes in one chapter = BAD

>>34367462
only if you dm tits