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Ready for a 10-12 year throwback to when /jp/ was just as shit as it is today?

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based

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Hope someone's enjoying these<3

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>>34267425
typical

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>>34267463
Well that's it for now, let me know if someone wants a few more

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let me add some of mine to the mix

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>>34267088
this makes me very happy

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>>34267519
Glad to hear it anon

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>>34267512
Thanks anon

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>>34267672
I would post more but I don't want to bring up too many irrelevant memes from the shitpost era

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>>34267695
No worries, hope some people got a kick out of it

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>> No.34267874

>Ready for a 10-12 year throwback to when /jp/ was just as shit as it is today?
Just like me!

>> No.34267975

>>34267805
>I'm going to axe this board immedietly if it doesn't turn out well
Little did moot know, /jp/ has stayed on 4chan longer than he did.

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>> No.34268299

Fuck, the other thread got deleted as I was about to post.
Thanks for dumping, this stuff is gold. Hammers home what a shame it is that yuki.la kicked the bucket.

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>>34268299
No idea why the fuck it got deleted, but glad you're appreciating it

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>>34267446
>the loli, 4chidori, and Brave Soul banners are gone
this is what they took from us

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>>34268489
</3

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>>34268525
/a/-related but oh well

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>> No.34268743

>>34267088
What Were You Doing When The Twin Towers Fell?

>> No.34269040

>>34268299
did yuki.la have anything warosu doesn't?

>> No.34269076

>>34269040
/gif/?

>> No.34269079

>>34269040
The main thing lost was a bunch of old images that weren't anywhere else.

>> No.34269099

>>34269079
Hmm... Too bad warosu didn't scrape it.
Think that one day warosu will die and with it the entire history of /jp/ will be confined to our heads, or whoever for whatever reason decides to archive old imageboard culture.

>> No.34269743

>>34267155
Jesus, at least go with a normal name like Marisa or Alice.

>> No.34269783

>>34267751
I already am.

>> No.34269855

>>34267404
I am moderately enjoying these. Continue.

>> No.34269891

>>34268276
>>>28288963
images made a comeback.

>> No.34270206

>>34268360
Literally me.

>> No.34270341

>>/jp/thread/1680681

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great thread

>> No.34272993

>>34267155
As much as I would like it to be true I swear I read somewhere this is fake.

>> No.34273005

>>34272993
It is fake.

>> No.34273195

Shit, I like this so fucking much. The land of the bizzarre in the form of anime girls before the Internet became populated... I crave that. Thanks to the anons posting History.

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>>34273195
Glad you enjoyed it anon.

I'd like to share that I was warned for posting the same stuff on /a/ lol, the absolute state
"Off-topic; all images and discussion should pertain to anime or manga."

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>>34267135
>>34267185
>>34267334
old board speak is pure cringe

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>>34274026
I guess we really are on the bottom of this sequence huh

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>>34268489
Brave Soul is shit and you know it.

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>>34273732
Well, they're technically right. The stuff you posted is neither battle shounen, nor flavour of the month normalfag anime.

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>> No.34282249

>>34274026
Cry about it teen

>> No.34282269

>>34274026
get out of /jp/

>> No.34282368

>>34267088
>when /jp/ was just as shit as it is today?
Are you delusional?

>> No.34282566

so tell me /jp/ why are you still here?
the old anons are gone and so is the internet you once knew. most internet website are dead people only broswe like 4-5 site like twitter/facebook/instagram/reddit etc

>> No.34283106

>>34269040
a far superior user interface

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>>34278753
what are you talking about? I don't think any of that was anime, there was no konosuba, attack on titan, MHA, Demon Slayer Overlord or Doctor Stone. I know about older Anime too like Cowboy Bebop and Beserk (haven't seen all of them but i've heard about them from some anime youtubers I watch), so it wasn't anything like that either.

I think people must have drawn these as ocs, so they're whatever you'd call fan content, ( I don't think there's a japanese word for that.)

I bet your same new fag who has never watched attack on titan or my hero academia.

(in all serious I hate these kinds of people.)

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>>34275145
And it keeps going downhill

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>>34283673
>krautchan
Ah yes, German /jp/

>> No.34283784

>>34283573
Stop depressing me.

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>>34282249
>>34282269
Caught the redditors trying to fit in

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>>34283673
the internet these days is like car dealership or a rental property website.

Your an average joe who wants a cheap shitbox for 2 or 3k and a crappy studio apartment for about 200$ a week. But all the car dealerships want to sell you a 30,000 honda jazz with fancy meme tech you don't want or need. And the first results you always get spammed with are houses for 1.2M or rental properties for 450-900$ a week.

4chan is this nice albanian/euroman whos a bit shady who tells you he has a 30 year old nissan he'll sell to you for 2.5k, and his cousin has a place you can stay in that's got a leaky faucet and it's only 250$ a week since someone died in it.

It's not fancy, but it's what you were looking for, and you can't find it anywhere else.

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>>34282566
i just don't know what other imageboard to go to. maybe i could finally give in and love lain.

>>34283784
that makes me sad too anon

i was thinking about the date of old posts and one timestamp was 2011. where the fuck my twenties have gone ;-; i'm so nostalgic lately. i want to go back. fuck social media and closed source normie tier platforms.

>> No.34285693

>>34283703
I miss KC, bros

>> No.34285773

>>34285693
It still exists, just rebranded

>> No.34285978

>>34267975
That just means /jp/ turned out better than moot.

>> No.34286005

>>34285637
There are plenty of old /jp/sies around, and the new /jp/sies that keep to the board culture and don't spam zero-effort meme posts aren't bad either.

>> No.34286205

>>34286005
>the new /jp/sies that keep to the board culture
wut
and here i thought those people are just myths
i mean i'm probably one of them but i lurked here for a while before i posted anything here and i think it's sad to see what has become of /jp/ now

>> No.34286229

why always focus on the bad posts, the bad threads
no wonder the board will look so terrible
focus on the good things we have

>> No.34286489

>>34286005
desu i'm one of the new ones but i feel i don't click with /jp/ because most of it is just eternally reposting or making new 2hu threads ad nauseam. i hope i'm not the only new fag that's learning japanese. and i love 2hu don't get me wrong! but it should be contained to one or two threads of shitpost. the gameplay thread is ok. and the toucan people are really nice and friendly. it just feels like 4chan is somewhat damaged nowadays since vpn or tor use is not really allowed. at least some part of /djt/ went the matrix protocol route as an alternative when apparently anons are now ok with discord being the standard software for communicating. i hope microsoft buys that shit so at least people get some sort of awareness. idk anon i'm all over the place emotionally right now sry for blogging.

>> No.34286529

>>34286229
because some tard comes along and necrobumps it from page 10 for nothing more than shitflinging purposes.

>> No.34286540

>>34286205
They're closer than you think.
>>34286489
>the toucan people are really nice and friendly
What toucan people

>> No.34286550

>>34286489
>vpn or tor use is not really allowed
I agree that this sucks but I realized that TuxlerVPN can easily bypass the blocks on this site. Try it sometime although I don't know their credentials. Don't expect military grade privacy.

>> No.34286593

>>34286489
>but it should be contained to one or two threads of shitpost
that would suck though
we need fewer generals, not more of them. then a higher discussion culture can return on /jp/.

>> No.34286643

>>34286593
What's the problem with generals? Instead of making an entire new thread on something that interests you, you can post in the general and receive more feedback and responses.

>> No.34286746

>>34286643
Generals are a problem and always had been.
You keep getting splinter groups making threads because they don't like the thread.
Case in point with idolfags trying to split off when they're literally talking about one part of one of the other idol groups.
The reason why people keep saying make an idol board is because there's already so many of them across the site. Look at /mu/ and there's at least 4 KPOP threads, 3 of which are likely not even on page 10. Look here, and you find nothing but idol generals and a literal handful of other threads. The entire first 2 pages are nothing but generals and you're saying there should be more of them to flood out the others. When you say feedback and responses, you are not talking about discussion. You are talking about the topic changing time and time again.

>> No.34286788

>>34286746
Literally the easiest solution would be to break up the board. It's simple.
You had the chance to get people on board if you planned to make a new board. There are plenty enough VNfags to have their own board. There are more than enough idolfags to create an idol board. It's simple.
If you want to see less of something, create a board for them so a true community can be established.

>> No.34286887

>>34286540
anons that like onaholes.

>>34286550
i'll check into that anon. but a lot of free vpn that advertise "no logs" do the exact opposite. i hope that's not the case. idk anon i'm too bitter about the internet nowadays. specially after learning some of the basics of how ot actually works. it's kind of depressing. ignorance might truly be bliss.

>>34286593
i'm with this anon >>34286643
the board would be more tidy instead of multiple oh no remi is preggo now my daughter is a fangy. i want to breed this 2hu, hbu anon? i mean it's fun but most threads on /jp/ are just random shitpost uncontained. but i'm a new fag and maybe it's just how it always was checking old posts.

>> No.34286926

>>34286887
All that would accomplish is the creation of more shitposting threads at best.
You can talk about how making a general would solve the problem when it literally won't. Something else will come along and fill those gaps with the same shit you're talking about and you'll say put them into a general until something else comes along and does the exact same thing.

>> No.34286964

>>34283573
Kill yourself holoshitter
>>34283810
Caught the /v/ermin trying to larp as /jp/sie.

>> No.34286969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rphRd46QWt4

>> No.34286995

>>34286489
>it should be contained to one or two threads of shitpost
not gonna happen faggot

>> No.34287005

>>34267088
I just realized you said throwback.
The /jp/a/ folder thread was something, but I might have lost the stuff that was posted there.

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>>34286788
VNfags were always /jp/ but sadly they won't stop posting in their generals. 3DPD idolpigs and holoshit/vtubershit should stay out of /jp/.

>> No.34287089

>>34286887
/jp/ is just not /jp/ when you don't take hornyposting to the logical maximum.

>> No.34287091

>>34287064
Even if they make a thread, it won't get much traction unless it's a recommendation thread like the guy who apparently has a daughter, assuming it wasn't a shitpost or pasta.
There was a Shion and Mion thread, but I forgot what happened to the other.

>> No.34287101

>>34287091
The threads did pretty good for /jp/ standards. Blame the vteens for bumping off every other thread.

>> No.34287309

>>34274026
You should be banned for this post.
7 times minimum.

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>>34287005
OP here, I'll post some of the /a/ shit again when I've got time

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>>34288145
godspeed

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>>34288226
HsotD was pretty good

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>>34288226
I've already maxed out the stats on every character in every JPRG I own...
It's only funny when it isn't real.

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>>34288296
Daily Yotsuba chapters were a good time

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>>34274026
I hope this was bait you fucking nigger

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>>34288336
>DFC
>Megamilk
DFC over Mega. As it should be.

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>> No.34288451

>>34288412
But both are good of course.

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>>34288498
Whoops that didn't work out

>> No.34288519

>>34288498
>>34288508
It happens sometimes.

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>>34288519
It ain't always easy

>> No.34288541

I think /jp/ and imageboards in general might be bad for you

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>>34288536
I'm out for a while, hope that was a decent refill

>> No.34288567

>>34288541
100%. I am addicted. How the fuck do I leave?

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>>34288541
Definitely

>> No.34289212

>>34286540
>they're closer than you think
interesting

>> No.34289241

>>34289212
Just look at any of the polls done for the cup or any other one found on the board.
less than 10 people answered board related questions correctly out of about 60.

>> No.34289742
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>>34288541
its possible

>> No.34289976

>>34288541
only if you can't take it easy

>> No.34290981

>>34289241
what does this mean tho?

>> No.34291022

>>34290981
It means you should scale it up and realize that a majority of posters now are a bunch of newfags. Board and site specific.

>> No.34291155

>>34291022
well how would i know
i guess i am a bit new in a way, i apologize

>> No.34291880

This whole site is, objectively, more shit than it was before, simply due to the quantity of shit.

>> No.34294383

is the oldfag still around

>> No.34295068
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>>34287064
>they won't stop posting in their generals
What's up with that anyway? What's so fun about hanging out in general threads? I personally can't stand them. I am afraid of getting spoilered on things I haven't read yet, and there is also the fact that generals have the tendency to turn into circlejerks full of off-board memes and lingo and whatnot.

>> No.34295205
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>>34288567
remember, you're here forever.

>> No.34296997
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34296997

I miss the old days but I still feel like a newfag. I don't think I started posting on 4chan and imageboards until 2008, maybe I visited the site in 2007 and thought it was a Photobucket clone(?), I was a 2011 fag on /jp/, I remember getting flustered about all the shitposting for some reason and trying to fit in until I stopped caring and started having fun. I lurked ED and everything I could find to figure out on how to not stick out and be annoying (I'm failing now), for some reason I just didn't care about the wapanese kawaii uugu boards when I got here even though I used to download anime and AMVs off Limewire/Kaazaa/BearShare/Morpheus/WinMX. I was an r9k gentleman, /mu/tant, 420/99 poster before arriving here in late 2010 early 2011 (same time I found KC), but it was like I missed out, even then it was filled with nostalgia for something I wasn't there to experience. All of those silly 4chan memes filtered out onto my forums back then because of memespouters (shoutout SB-C and that IRC wannabe Scene channel my middle school friend invited me to in 2005). I think I read every post on ED so I wouldn't stick out as the "cancer that is killing /b/", I probably posted 5 times in an entire year. Not an ancientfag, not an oldfag, not a zoomer, somewhere in between. This board is really the only consistently good place in all those years, but I'm not that nostalgic, things change, things go, things disappear. You must go with it and grow, that said I've been hikki neeto this entire time, but that will change too. I apologise for blogging so much, but it is my birthday, I'm nearly 30, and I have had a few. All of you are really good people. Shinku is best and most wonderful doll.

>> No.34298466

>>34287089
i'm not agaist the hornyposting. i jerk off a lot daily anon. i'm very very horny indeed. i just think about contaiment. but i kinda see what other anons are trying to point out. it's just different ways of thinking i guess. either way i'll still lurk and post from time to time. i'm not someone to post a lot. and it's friday night and time to fap.

>> No.34298493

>>34296997
happy birthday anon. i hope you get a healthier and happier life!

>> No.34298687

>>34296997
You're a lurker.

>> No.34299029

>>34283810
says the one using a reddit-tier phrase and reaction image.

>> No.34300226
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34300226

>>34267155
>mfw Reimu is now 11

>> No.34300334

>>34286788
>>34287064
vtuber shouldn't even exist anymore on /jp/ since /vt/ was created. The janny gets mad if you report them which is ironic since /vt/ was made to be a containment board like /mlp/ and pokemon.

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>>34300226
Reimu is old enough to read and understand what is going on in >>34267155 now

>> No.34300828

>>34267155
So people still believe this was real?

>> No.34301507
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>>34294383
Yeah, sup?

>> No.34308485

>>34301507
Not much. I was just wondering since you said you'd be back later.

>> No.34309647
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34309647

I was amused by the Sakuya drawing and made this stupid pic
to my surprise, it still gets reposted years later. Some had the cheek to save and repost it as a low quality JPEG

>> No.34309768
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34309768

>>34309647

>> No.34309777

oh, it's the same.

>> No.34309871

>>34288417
I think I remember that guy.
He gets into it sometime later doesn't he, or am I thinking of something else.

>> No.34309901
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>> No.34309922
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>> No.34309936
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34309936

>>34267512
those vintage Nanoha memes

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>>34267088
It really doesn't feel like it but even this is almost over 10 years old soon. I still remember when this place was called Japan/General.

>> No.34310793

>>34309901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBNkIQzg_iM

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>>34296997
Sober now. Sorry for posting cringe blog. It isn't fair that you can't delete your own posts anymore.

>>34298493
Thank you! and same to you.

>> No.34311748

>>34284002
I like this picture. I'm going to save it

>> No.34312607
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34312607

>>34311748
Glad you enjoy it anon Madoka is the shit.

>> No.34312791

>>34286205
I’m one of them, ive only been browsing /jp/ regularly sense about 2019. That’s why I’m always in theses kinda threads, I feel like I missed out on the golden age of 4chan and although I like modern /jp/ I wish I could’ve been here back in 2011.

>> No.34313330

>>34312791
>2011
Basically now but worse and with more tripfags

>> No.34314918

>>34312791
same
but i'm only here much more frequently at like late 2020
i thought /jp/ was for touhou stuff but all i see is just other things cluttering everything up
this board really needs a clean up

>> No.34314962

I came to /jp/ because of Touhou. It's nice talking to people who legitimately enjoy something niche I enjoy as well, as stupid as that may sound. I really have nobody else to talk to.

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>>34295205
say it aint so

>> No.34315053

>>34314962
I've told people IRL i'm into 2hu but nobody seems interested. I kinda wish I had some buttbuddies to cosplay with like in those japanese photos/documentaries/porn. Not gay though.

>> No.34316393
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>>34312791
2011 was when this was one of the fastest boards on the site, for some reason it was the new /b/ at the time.

>> No.34318336

I'm cool with newfriends if they don't post holoshit

>> No.34323042
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34323042

>>34308485
Oh, I'm mostly out of /jp/ and /a/ related images sadly, just got a lot of old generic old anime shit

>> No.34323055
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>>34309871

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>>34323055

>> No.34323102
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>>34323077

>> No.34323422

>>34315053
>I kinda wish I had some buttbuddies to cosplay with
This is why nobody around you is interested in Touhou, man. It's cause you're a weirdo.

>> No.34323432

>>34323422
idk man some of the least weird touhou fans I have been with were cosplayers

>> No.34324121
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>>34272993
It is, probably made using this generator that no longer works.

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>>34323102
I don't have an image for this.

>> No.34329492

>>34296997
Hbd anon. You didn’t arrive too early or too late to 4chan. You got here right when you were meant to.

>> No.34331627

ahem

>> No.34331681

>>34329492
>You got here right when you were meant to.
There's nothing like opening the browser and typing in "4chan.org" for the first time without knowing why or what it is.

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>>34331681
I lurked boards for ages without understanding how to see the rest of the thread because I wasn't interested in clicking [Reply] and looking dumb and getting bullied.

>> No.34333490

>>34333298
I didn't know you could save images for a while. It literally happened by accident.

>> No.34343522

last one I guess.

>> No.34349740

>>34343522
not so fast o7

>> No.34351183
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34351183

>>34343522
Yeah I'm pretty much out of related stuff

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>>34309647
I used that recently. Thanks for making it dude.

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>>34272993
>>34273005
>>34300828
I want to believe

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>>34351183
Weabounty 125,000,000

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>>34351183

>> No.34370127

i remember when these were turned into an exploitable and reddit started using it out of context with ragefaces

>> No.34370703

>>34285693
It will and shall always be kc tier

>> No.34371201

>>34285693
Kohlchan exists

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>>34371201
lol what did i miss

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34374001

I miss active Desuchan

>> No.34374456

>>34296997
i love you

>> No.34377504

>>34309936
Got anymore Nanohas? She isn't seen very often.

>> No.34380410

Last one.

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>>34377504

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>>34377504

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