/jp/ - Otaku Culture

watching reboot series and it's fine but the tone and aesthetics are definitely off

yan's entire personality is putting his hand on his hat while he leans back and closes his eyes

>>34088543
forgetting anybody?

can a brainlet neet learn more than the ~10 most common words which i just remember because they were simple and used very often

>>34088675
learn the next 10 most common words. boom, doubled your vocabulary

>>34088810
the beginner guide in the OP is a good place to start after you learn hiragana and katakana

>>34088847
im most interested in the speech part so i can watch videos. no plans to ever speak or write it.. what would i even do with such skills in my neet container...

>>34088912
thing is that i probably wont see them that often. for example with subbed anime the subs might be very wrong and im too retarded to properly hear and understand what was said and also read the sub lines that stay on screen for few seconds

>>34088996
that would be nice.. for reading i think i would need a bigger monitor because this one does not have space for a font that is big enough to show all the detail of those symbols
>>34089017
thats going to be a great challenge for my retard brain.. it took me years to properly remember my phone number and about same for the bank card pin which is only 4 numbers and i even use it often...

>>34088933
yea its the best anime ever made

imagine being circumcised
thats fucking crazy bro

>>34089325
but this board looks comfy.. and im done with the posts anyway because there is not much more to say

go away we dont like you

no you dont

>>34089404
i know but /g/ made me come here and i see that the board is comfy so im probably going to stay around for a while..

>>34089479
no this idiot just downloaded the 4chan slang deck for anki

https://twitter.com/nicetakkul795/status/1377270749598117891

something about the semiotics of this game that makes it great for learning. rewatching several times

>>34089533
it is very advanced technology so you can put both a picture and text in the same post

>>34089554
this thread isnt THAT active

>>34089554
it wont reach the limit any quicker if you include a picture on your text post? i would understand you if you were complaining about just picture dumping but that is not what is happening here.

>>34089535
ya das rite u should look at 2jigen otokos.

>>34089576
The bump limit for 500 for posts, 300 for images.

>>34089597
ur mum ha tottemo redditteki desu

>>34089597
im too autistic for them. i believe that you get shadowbanned if your new account gets downvoted to 0 too quickly so its totally impossible to use for me

>>34089617
you only have 3000 after a year?

>>34089628
damn better ration out our posts then. dont want to hit the bump limit

>>34089627
I only used it for kanji until recently

>>34089641
would rather just stay away from the whole site. i admit to trying it but im too used to imageboards so it just didnt work.. make a post or two and hivemind does not agree with you and after that no one replies to you anymore which is a clear sign of them applying that invisible ban

>>34089673
try again

>>34089707
見ればのも？

>>34089738
ok why dont you let jannies know and let us know how it goes. nobody else cares but you

>>34089738
thats on the other posters for not posting images on the imageboard. i blame the phoneposters

>>34089737
its bc youll have a trail of post people can link to you creating a personalty
unlike here where i dont have to filter myself and i can say all the stupid shit i want without worry

>>34089812
and this is why this website is garbage

>>34089774
what purpose does posting images unrelated to ur posting does other than being a defacto trip

why would i want to look at these gay pics youre posting its an eyesore

>>34088383
good OP for a change, nice to see

will be a good thread

>>34089886
lets see these innocuous posts that got you shadowbanned

woa anime girl poster just saved this thread . nice

>>34090065
this world seem to have an endless supply of suffering...

>>34090036
why did you screenshot a few weeks old post to prove your point then you retard
jump off a bridge

>>34090063
you seem to know a lot about that specific subreddit. tell me more you subhuman.

>>34090057
ankiphone

>>34090107
this is a supportive and tolerant thread. hate has no place here

>>34090134
announcing reports is against the rules, anon

>>34090130
dude shut da fuck up

>they don't believe in classes and textbooks
>https://old.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/wiki/index/startersguide
>with online resources you’ll need to be careful to make sure that the combinations you are using are giving you a complete education
the fuck is a complete education it's certainly not genki 1 and 2
>Textbooks allow a high standard of information and allow for easy transition into college level courses
college level courses that will allow you to pull off amazing feats like this after three long years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1dpqm_WSA
>These textbooks [Genki] are commonly used in college and university settings and cover the first two years of study at a common pace.
imagine taking two years for the stuff in genki what are you even doing
and after we've completed our comprehensive genki textbook study we go to the
>Moving Forward
section in which we find two amazing routes to choose from
1. more textbooks
2. jlpt
great stuff
note how native material isn't mentioned at all except for </wbr></wbr>

>>34090229
that guy's only 2 years in

>>34090224
thats fine too. i already got answers to my questions so the posts are irrelevant now

>>34090229
lmao that video

back on topic: https://youtu.be/A7HF7v9wUUA

>>34090229
he laffin cuz he knows he bad

>>34090058
The best way to improve are textbooks.

Also why are you using "textbooks and classes" in the same sentence? Literally ALL textbook connoisseurs are saying that classes are bullshit and a waste of time. Even Heisig said that if you want to master Japanese the only thing that matters is that you are sitting at home and learning.

I have seen ZERO people who reached "native" Japanese without textbooks. All those immersion scammers who want to hold you down have all either used textbook to become big or are bad at Japanese.

Why are all those cucks who are dekinai for life so triggered that you can use textbooks and just anime and do the immersion bullshit from time to time while still using 95 % of your studying time with textbooks and Anki? Are immersion cucks really this retarded that they think using textbooks creating some kind of magical wall build by Trump to prohibit you to even watch anime from time to time?
You improve your Japanese with textbooks and for entertainment to not quit Japanese you watch from time to time anime or do other immersion bullshit which won't help you improve, but helps you with continuing learning Japanese.

>>34090319
this guy's only 1 month in. he placed into an advanced class because he's chinese

>>34090320
agreed

>>34090416
anime will give you context clues via visuals and the flow of the story to help figure out what words mean

>>34090229
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/mjtusq/too_much_srs/

if you actually read the threads the top posts are identical to djt without the assholes

>>34090551
also what's their immersion, talking to you? bet they're not logging tons of hours into nicktoons

>>34090382
pretty important, makes it way easier to understand, and also helps if you need to input a kanji by drawing into an app dictionary, it can understand your scribbles way better if the stroke order is correct

>>34090456
fuck reddit

that site needs to go away, it is almost as bad for society as twitter is

>>34090599
I'm in an English speaking country, they come here to immerse

come on, someone has to have the jalup deck.

>>34090670
and I should add to that if it isn't obvious, the immersion is just as important as the textbook learning to them being so successful

these are the friends that always give me the highest quality answers to my Japanese questions, the Japanese friends that are just winging it tend to give wrong answers or just are not able to understand well enough to give answers to difficult language questions

n5 genki 1
n4 genki 2
n3 kanzen master and/or ninhongo somatome
n2 kanzen master and/or ninhongo somatome
n1 kanzen master and/or ninhongo somatome

work through all of these and you'll be better than any immersion learner

>>34091478
>read the refold site and stephen krashen input hypothesis
That kind of material would teach a person about what language learning is in general, but would not actually teach a person a language on its own.
What would having an extremely vague idea of something, but not being able to implement it be useful for?

wotn: 宣戦布告

>>34091557
i have them all. bought quite a few years ago (years before he mande the change for the new app)

>ギロッポンヤーシブに住もう
took me a moment

>>34091525
thats me but i think that i can still understand something at least partially if im really interested in it. overall its way too late to make it in anything significant but this could make my life comfier so its worth figuring out. still going to continue my life as neet with no other social life than these boards even if i do manage to learn it.. clearly i was born to be a neet that is free from all the requirements that a normal person has

>>34091589
i can tell it's somebody else.

since i live near the mexican american border words in katakana sound like what a fourth of my town say all the time.

>>34091586
there's a baiting avatarfag going around

>>34091619
true. i dont use names on sites where i have an opportunity to stay anonymous

>>34091608
are you watching a live cam or something

>>34091645
this but lns

>>34091722
almost 4 here but times dont matter when you are a neet

i might be a neet but i wake up everyday at 7 am

imagine not earning money through a job that you can waste on plastic dolls so you can build a holy shrine to the goddess of Eromoe

i wish i could go to sleep early but i like staying up at night

>>34091950
i feel sorry for winblows users

>>34091914
jp-subbed anime is even more uncomfortable because there's a set pace to everything (music, voice acting, animation), so if you pause anything to look words up, you know you're interrupting the intended flow of the scene.
visual novels are not that bad in that sense, since you can re-read or relisten to lines, but still have music, so if you don't keep up with the bgm's tempo, it can end up feeling kind of weird.


That's why the best medium for low-level learners is furigana'd manga, since everything goes exactly at the reader's pace, but there's also not as much text or as many unusual words as in novels.

>>34091950
If only there was an operating system that would be perfect for something like this...

>>34091974
I've already consumed the whole series before I picked up studying Japanese. I just want to make a funny call out post on Death The Kid for using literal samurai speak (父上) for the western community to enjoy.

>>34092020
父上 is respectful. it's not associated with samurai in particular.

remember the anti pauser / anti sub days lol

>>34091956
one day im going to try to import something.. i just need to figure out how the local import tax jewing system works and then i can waste all of the neetbux like a total retard..

>>34092069
like i said, i have them. but not feeling like uploading them. sorry anon

>>34092073
what type of ceremony are you going to have?

le djt cult as usual

>>34092163
*sigh*

all jdramas are jidaigeki though

>>34092171
what? nuke has probably only seen 15 anime

>>34092281
the first one looks like some kind of communist sign

>>34092333
lol stupid 外人s

>>34089886
this guy is right though. every time you look up a word or grammar explanation that's work. you're not JUST watching anime.

>>34091931
jamal and og

>>34092371
some kind of fedora dude

>>34092362
>press shift
>read definition
いい仕事したぜ

>>34092321
probably more than qm

>>34091950
learn to code

>>34092362
yeah this guy knows what hes on about

>>34092362
a little bit of work is ok as long as its not done to gain acceptance from the system cogs

reached the part of lotgh where its become evident that yan is gonna lose and i dont feel like watching any more

hate polak pigdogs never had a positive interaction with one in my life

>>34092466
>retarded
it takes one to know one

「姉上」と「兄上」を覚えた

bros anybody got a copy of Mein Comf?

really love when some jap bows to another and the other guy is like ieie kotti koso and then bows even lower and they start bowing to each other in an infinite loop

「父上」と「母上」を覚えた

>>34092542
ew 3d. that's not anime.

love when japs get reincarnated into a different world, and they start bowing and use keigo

>>34092565
but anime isn't like that anymore

>>34092588
looks like gunslinger girl, but then again, so do most early 2000s anime

>>34092596
is it true it explores how men and other creatures can live together in harmony which is a theme present in togashi's other manga

it doesn't look like one of those anime made after kyoani started imposing its style on other studios and everything started looking like shitty instagram pics.

The MadAjatter
Ok now I understand why American guys be weirded out by japanese dudes them nikkas be giving out hugs all sus like, seriously I was caught by surprise with that shit.

>>34092675
thought he was mexican they should be used to skinship

>>34092701
only tragedy is that it didnt happen before they made anything

>>34092697
maximum comfy

>>34092723
oh ok then i apologize

i just read this h-manga but didn't cum at all.

>>34092720
it's quite fun

>>34092725
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-katakana/

worst djt thread possible

me and og already kansetu kissed when i jiko ferad

already directly kissed og when she posted the picture of her lips

>>34092855
if somebody likes stuff you like too, maybe they might know something you don't that's worth watching/reading.

>>34092855
recommendations seem to be more for normies. they literally have terms like beginners anime.. like you cant just watch whatever you like instead of some categorized list stuff

>>34092909
the only anime from here that had potential to be good was tenkuu danzai skelter heaven.

>>34092858
just stepped into a time machine

>>34092909
some of those could be cute.. need to check later

>>34092909
most of that looks like absolute trash
man anime used to suck really hard glad we don't live in those times anymore

>>34092909
everything here looks good

>>34092858
「ダチョ」を覚えた

>>34092954
true true

>tfw convincing japanese people to learn english by watching peppa pig

definitely gotten better because a couple months ago i wouldn't have got the joke from やれやれだわ

>>34092526
i am esl and i cant tell if this sounds right or not

>>34093018
no, fug off

>>34093018
literally just saw the news a minute ago. not much to say really, stone ocean sucked but at least we're one step closer to sbr anime

PSA
if you know japanese, it is time to move on from this thread

>>34093036
stone ocean is good

>>34093018
yes it's 午後五時

>>34093045
it starts off good and ends good but 80% of it is shit

>>34093035
thats from another cute and comfy anime i have seen..

>>34093013
guess it was some kind of popular anime here some time ago.. others would be the typical stuff like digimon and pokemon which even came on regular tv channels

*cums*

>>34093051
yeah mayoi neko overrun was also one of the best anime i watched since haganai.

>>34093088
i'm from mexico vato jitsu ha watashi ha 420 no neta ga suki kedo taima wo suu ni kyoumi nai

>>34093113
that mech episode in mayoi neko was one of the most boring anime eps i've ever seen

>>34093168
>jojo part 6
yareyaredawa

>>34093156
there were no boring episodes...

>>34093102
will never understand why くんくん is onomatopeia for sniffing

magical how i just sit back and watch anime and nihongo downloads into my brain

>>34093180
retard

「クンクン」を覚えた

>>34093168
i don't have time to watch some ugly cuck for 10 mins, can't you just explain it in a few sentences?

most of the reccs animation style is so gross you can tell the people that think its good are filthy coomers

had to check the catalog for another djt cuz i thought everyone had left me alone with these nutjobs but it seems like this nightmare is gonna have to continue

>>34093220
it's just one guy who's treating this space as his tearoom.

i can't even force myself to read for an hour a day because it's super boring but i know i'd get way better.

>>34093269
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

right here buddy

>>34093226
sweden, of course.
swedes are gay and love homostuff. they invaded finland, estonia, germany, etc. just for the sake of having more male asses to fuck, and nowadays swedes invite black muslim immigrants to come fuck them.

>>34093333
fucking quads check'd

this is what it looks like if you dont practice stroke order

>>34093350
i can read it fine

https://youtu.be/xaOCeu1IRZ4

feels good being able to read hidden stuff like that

imagine thinking stroke order makes a difference

finnish sounds very similar to japanese, except that it's got umlauts

>>34093389
no it doesnt

>>34093441
just use wanikani. it's easy

>>34093464
Beginner VNs (preferably with voices) would also be appreciated

>>34093450
私にそういうのは信頼難いことです

>>34093476
look at the charts on the itazuraneko site, or look for visual novels with the slice of life tag on vndb
hint: if the girls on the cover look retarded, it's most likely very easy to read.

>>34093464
easiest anime i've seen is girl's last tour. but realistically, every anime will blow you out for a long time until you've learned several thousand words and listened to hundreds of hours of untranslated anime. so just pick ones that you can enjoy while not understanding very much of it. and don't try to translate every word, just power through it and translate stuff that seems interesting or you feel like you almost understand.

>>34093518
stfu minimatt

The only way to really become fluent is through written media.
Anybody who mentions "anime" shit is most likely a whitenoiser or a pauser.
Or both.

we settled this long ago pausers are ngmi end of story

>>34093546
>books
shut up nerd

i look up words in real time. gmi

>>34093554
Self-delusional ngmi

>>34093580
maybe the computer could do it with some kind of sound to text thing

dont be tricked by the antianime nerd

>>34093596
imaginging somebody making a realtime dictionary feed lol

>>34093620
>iturazenko
Good thing that's not the same as the itazuraneko site

whats the lore on the guy that hates itazuraneko

>>34093628
burned by one too many dead links

>>34093088
I'm in Canada and I can go out my front door and there are probably a dozen weed stores within a 10 minute walk

>>34093649
it's the name of an anime

he's a brazilian that memorized 6k kanji without learning any associated words and has promoted every single shitty japanese learning-related site other than itazuraneko because he associates it to quizmaster's discord

>>34092767
At least he made good software
Most tripfags have nothing to offer

>>34093659
>memorized 6k kanji without learning any associated words
?? impossible

nice to see some of the beginnings of the Olympics today, torch relay was streamed live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT_3Yqp77Iw

does anyone have the Jalup anki deck and could send me a copy?

>>34093799
might as well use wanikani

It has been bothering me recently. I'm confused about how the meaning of「じゃない」changes based on intonation.

I will use the following symbols to indicate intonation:

「。」- A period indicates the sentence is spoken in a "normal" voice (possibly no intonation).

「?」- A question mark indicates the sentence is spoken in rising intonation.

「!」- An exclamation mark indicates the sentence is spoken with a "loud" voice.

I will explain the different meanings of「じゃない」 based on my current understanding. Please correct me if there are any mistakes.

いいじゃない。

I know that the「じゃない」here is used for plain negation, so it literally means "not good."

>>34093659
fowler?

>>34093839
I'm looking for Jalup not WaniKani

>>34093855
it's only $250 for the jalup anki cards. dont be so cheap

>>34093862
don't care

if you literally 切る someone's 裏 do you say 裏切る or is that metaphorical only and the literal version is something else

Anyone know the ANKI shortcut to replay audio?

>>34093922
r

>>34093922

did the jojo 5 anime make sense of king crimsons ability or is it still a mystery?

>>34093940
>>34093936
thanks

>>34093947
what do you mean? king crimson can delete time as seen in king crimson vs metallica when risotto used narancias stand to try to shoot doppio

ローリスクローリターンと

ハイリスクハイリターンと

どっちがすきですか

>ローリスクローリターン
i fucking hate katakana why is it so hard to read

>>34094087
cant help you, easy for me

>>34094087
Because it doesn't carry any of the common Japanese conventions and patterns that make it easier to guess a word at a glance or distinguish words from each other.

What's the best way to get back into things after having done nothing for two months?

>>34094186
true
i can read hiragana and known kanji about as fast as i read latin script, but katakana hurts my brain because i automatically try to 'translate' the sounds to english and find a word that sounds like it even if its not a loanword

>>34094056
なーなー

枝豆は大豆やねんで

>>34094315
stfu

2
take your own advice

>>34094338
straight reward but don't care doesn't matter

>>34094338
straight reward and pass fail as the only options add on

https://youtu.be/EykWxB_sqOM
gonna try this

>>34094087
it is really tough, I've been studying Japanese for a few years now and still have a lot of difficulty with katakana

>>34094469
i dont understand people like this. katakana is the easiest part of japanese

what exactly is the point of ease in the first place?

「殺戮」を覚えた

stop talking about japanese. lets talk about quiz' girlfriend or matt instead

「上等な枕」を覚えた

>>34094550
>>34094535
kys

Oboeru guy is becoming too powerful

「フワフワ」を覚えた

loving this show lmao

I want to buy https://perfect-s.com/product/detail/0000000000249471 but I'm unsure what the two colour options are.
Going to the next page with each selected just shows light gray.
Could someone here tell me what the difference is or write down the kanji used so that I can translate it myself?
Pic related.

>>34094493
it's not hard to figure out what it means but you do slow down when reading like >>34094224 said when you encounter an uncommon word in kata

>>34094589
so do japanese. they even say it slower

just got btfo by thunderbolt fantasy

>>34094499
a) some words are harder than others
b) starting all words as if they are the hardest words would mean more reviews than you actually need

nothing like going from an 11/10 difficult show like OP image to something relaxing and easy to understand

うえなどなまくら

>>34094624
what show is op

>>34094600
The new episode that just came out? I still need to watch season 2

they keep flashing the name of everything on the screen which is like cheat codes after watching everything raw

殺戮ピエロ
ふた首ドラゴン
アイテム庫

>>34094646
legend of the galactic heroes (1988)

「クエスト達成」を覚えた

lmao this fucking manga i swear

>>34094410
かけるようになるには

かきとりしかないよね

ただ

じかんがかかるから

チキンのあのんにはむずかしいかもしれない

amazing animation whenever this happens

>>34094650
yeah
everytime this guy opens his mouth i have no idea what he means

>>34092389
btfo'd

>>34094730
theres some chinese in this show pretty sure

that's the ソest looking ン i've ever seen

>>34094730
Yea that show is tough. I remember making some cards from season 1 and some of the language was archaic or very formal. Not shit I’m used to

>>34094746
Yea all the names are written in Chinese. Probably some other stuff too. It’s not a native Japanese show

>>34094493
nah

I mix up kanji way less than I mix up katakana

「鱗」と「風呂敷」と「馴鹿」を覚えた

this anime is straight up designed for learning japanese

started copypasting words into jisho more instead of just hovering with yomichan idk i think it helps

>>34094818
魔王城でおやすみ

>>34094821
next start copy pasting them into the thread like oberuchad

>>34094821
imagine using jmdict. ngmi.

I hope oboeru guy makes it but when you look at others that have done something similar in this thread the odds are not good

>>34094879
they just gave up?

behead oboeru tranny

i shinjiru in oboeru

>>34094790
みっつめがよくわからない

liked episode 1 enough that i got the manga set

brews just had a blast watching "sangokushi (2010)" jp dub and found out that the producer made "項羽と劉邦 king's war (2012)". I cant find it on nyaa but its available on netflix and prime anyone got a rip? I heard chinese dramas are often available on perfect dark and winny, but im to dumb for router ports. pls check

https://www.twitch.tv/japan_asmr

>>34095039
humaretai

>>34094757
シツソン u still having trouble with kata?

>>34095075
no but this font got me

remember watching the intro to my conquest is the sea of the stars and getting completely btfod. watching it now, 50 hours of raw anime later and i can understand a lot of it. shit's workin

罰金とは悪いことをしたときに支払う税金です

税金とは悪いことをしなかったときに支払う税金です

悪いことをして税金を支払わない方法はありますか

はいあります。中国に行くことです

悪いことをせずに税金を支払わなくてもいい洗脳施設が多数設置されています

>>34094706
中国に行きな

>>34095269
just block them then unblock them, it will unfollow their follow of you

Do I really need all of tae Kim for yotsubata?

>>34095566
just start reading and refer to a grammar guide when you get stuck

graveyard shift thread
>>34095919

北京語の使えない有害生物や

宗教を持っている有害生物が何百万人と集めてあります

宗教を消し去り北京語ができるまでマニュアルにある正義行為をしてください

正義行為ですから貴方は全く悪いはずがありません

don't feel like i'm improving

>>34096972
improve more

>>34097036
僕のおちんぽ、舐めてくれ！

>>34097253
あら〜ちーちゃい！

>>34092542
gits was such a waste of good animation

>>34097162
theyre ok

>>34097162
first of all im not a nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDug8RTkaKM

now i have to jack off standing because if i do it while sitting then one of my balls starts to hurt.

>>34100602
why would i get testicular torsion due to jacking off.
also ive tried to stop jacking off and i barely made it to two days.

>>34100591
huh

>>34100640
>try once
>fail
>give up
this is why you can't accomplish anything

adults can't acquire languages like children

this board is cope

>>34100649
lmao, this could be the cause, i have been trying different things and found that jacking off while standing causes me only a minor amount of pain and it goes away fast.
>>34100707
i didn't just try once bro, but i dont wanna wrote a blogpost in here, my average was 1~2 days but my actual max days is 10, i dont how how i did it but after that i have never managed to approach that amount. i quit because after failing a streak the amount of times that i would jack off was too fucking much like 6 and 7 times.

Kanji reps are going down, I'm doing only 10 Japanese sentences a day, life's good.

>>34100750
not really whining, just spitting some facts
good that you're calling it for what it is, jacking off, not acquisition

gonna accquire some jap from genki while you losers jerk off to anime girls laterzs

>>34100859

>>34100891
quiz why not do an oyakodon

>>34100891
what's that about?

>>34090320
>>34090551
>>34090670
Maybe you should buy an english textbook.

>>34100770
maybe youre suffering from blue balls

why would you want to be an otaku anyway

>>34101914
yeah this

anime watchers aren't otaku

>>34090057
no, but listening to drama cds or even tubers could help.
music is pretty much always useless due to how distorted the phonology is and the extremely stilted and unnatural sentences (poetry or close enough). I guess some simple music that emphasizes the lyrics could be okay but again, you're better off just listening to actual dialog/conversations.

>>34101984
hardcore anime watchers are inherently otaku, plebs that have barely watched 30 shows are just normies yes

>>34101914
give me the anime starter pack of shows

does quiz have a mal or anilist or anything

>>34100770
have you tried gradually cutting down rather than trying to quit all in one go

I think someone should post the anki jalup decks on itaziraneko or libgen.

>>34102448
im not trying to quit anymore, it would involve changing many things and i also dont have a reason deep enough to do it.

>>34102966
who is this guy and why should we listen to him

>>34103221
because he spent half the post providing a basis for his claims and sources and the other half expressing his opinion (which he described as such)

no reason whatsoever to listen to a retard who hasn't proved his japanese level.

>>34103282
ad hominems don't mean shit
kys

>>34103382
>who hasn't proved his japanese level.

>>34103464
>is he actually good at any foreign languages
yea, read the post

>>34103464
>>34103586
https://old.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/mh3dq2/all_kanji_first_or_build_up_as_it_goes/gt0msmo/
lol

>>34102966
this guy doesn't seem to understand the subject he's talking about
>How do we determine our "current level" of proficiency? Even if we were to somehow be able to deduce our current level of proficiency, how can we reliably determine what is "one step above" our current level of proficiency? Even if we can accurately and concretely define what "one step above our current level of proficiency" is, how can we be sure that the content we're consuming is "i+1" content?
>Theoretically speaking, I suppose it's possible that we could i+1 our way to proficiency. But this isn't an ideal world, and we have a few issues:
>We're not linguistics and probably can't accurately assess our "current level"
>.Even if we could accurately assess our "current level", non-linguistic factors might prevent us from realizing that what seems to be an i+1 piece of content/sentence is actually i+(more than one)
>Even if we could accurately assess our current level and perfectly identify content as being i+1 or not... the technology doesn't exist to create a personalized sequence of i+1, 2, 3... content. We have to go digging through content and "mining" for ourselves in order to find the content that's actually i+1.

he's really going at this debate with the mindset of an anki drone who is trying to sentence mine their way to fluency with i+1 sentences when that it not what krashen's input hypothesis is about at all

krashen says if you read enough compelling content, the i+1 stuff will naturally be there, which it will be
the whole book you're reading doesn't have to be i+1 for you to acquire from it, and you don't need to consume your target language incrementally in an exact sequence of one i+1 sentence after another

>20,000 pages of immersion
>a couple hundred hours of drama
lmfao

he has done barely any immersion at all and is surprised he doesn't understand every single nuance of japanese yet

mined over 100 new kanji today

What do you tell people when they ask you what your hobbies are, or what you do for fun? Do you you ever say that you're learning Japanese, or are you afraid they'll want you to start speaking

>>34104980
why would anyone ever ask that

>>34104980
uhh i can just say wtf ever i want?

>>34105028
what if you say your hobby is acquiring japanese

i usually bring up japan or japanese at all unless if its someone im already very close with or someone who mentions japanese media first

>>34105161
dont bring up*

>>34105028
big win if you arent an insecure subhuman who chooses hobbies to gain womens approval

>>34102420
yea we're on mal
https://myanimelist.net/profile/DJTQM

>>34101984
good
>>34101959
this

>>34105880
what about that new to anime starter pack?

>>34105962
why do these people exist

>>34105880
we're currently transitioning to anilist but it's not complete until you two join us.

>>34106238
stop doing these horrible things. if you use someones lists to decide what to watch you are doing it very wrong

>>34106286
wtf?

>>34106295
by using lists you are limiting yourself to things that the hivemind likes to promote. the spoonfeeding is why people mostly keep watching popular shit instead of finding the good things that these list makers will never promote. some people may even lose interest in the content because a shill promoted them some "beginners anime" instead of the good stuff

no such thing as a good anime with a low rating

>>34106418
>no such thing as a good anime
yeah

>>34106418
i have never checked ratings.. its not a thing on nyaa and no one on anidb cares about it either

>>34106566
i check ratings every time. below a certain threshold and i know it's a waste of time. i've never enjoyed a 7/10 or lower

>>34106589
my threshold is lower like if there's a 6 with a synopsis that hits the spot i'll still watch it and i've seen quite a few 6s i still had fun with but yeah anything 5 is guaranteed to be garbage and there ain't no "hidden gems" there either

>>34106589
only thing i check is the description. reviews are biased so i would miss something good by reading a opinion from someone who thinks that pretty much everything is waste of time

like for example https://myanimelist.net/anime/22849/ is something im going to watch if i ever manage to learn enough japanese. seems to have no rating at all there..

>>34106750
They're only 5 min episodes

>>34106813
should not be a problem. i have watched https://anidb.net/anime/11910 which is even shorter but i thought that it was nice

>>34105028
unless shes the 1 in 300 whos a weeb and then you have a stalker

if superman is invincible then why can i see him

mined another 50 new kanji. i'm about to coom from how much my kanji grid is swelling.