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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk7rMMiK44c
What was Ryukishi on?

>>33989962
I hope R07 leans into this a bit more and Ciconia becomes like a sci-fi/simulated version of a Christian apocalypse, I enjoy the weird subgenre of like godly beings beyond our comprehension causing apocalypses to happen like Third Impact.

>>33990431
after watching that video i reread some of the character profiles and noticed references in some cf them talking about how they seem to know whats going to happen before it does like koshka lingji and someone on the jewish team

Miyao can suck my cooooooooooock

>>33990492
Miyao would never do something so obscene.

>>33988346
Some points of interest.

>――そんななかで『ひぐらし業』でとくに出番の多い梨花と沙都子に関してはいかがでしたか？
>川口　これまではつねに仲良しコンビだっただけに、『ひぐらし業』で新しいふたりの関係性が描かれていく様子は新鮮でしたね。かないみかさん、田村ゆかりさん、ともに的確な芝居をしていただけて感謝しています。個人的には第19話「郷壊し編 其の弐」で流れるふたりのデュエット曲『オレンジ色の風』を作っていただけたのが、とてもうれしいことでした。あのシーンはシナリオ段階から劇伴ではなく、梨花と沙都子の新曲デュエット曲を流したい！と切望していたので。数少ない監督権限を行使した部分です（笑）。
Orange Wind was the director's idea. He wanted a Rika & Satoko duet. I like this guy.

>――川口監督から見て、今回の沙都子はいかがですか？
>川口　これまでの『ひぐらし』では見せたことのない沙都子のいろいろな面が出ているかと思います。それは、これまでの「いたずら」のレベルではすまない邪悪な要素が含まれるわけですが、それでいて、ふとした瞬間に以前のか弱い印象の沙都子も現れるわけです。とくに第23話「郷壊し編 其の六」で鉄平と対峙した際などは、すでに魔女化しているにもかかわらず、どうしても鉄平に対して怯えてしまう。そんな弱さと冷徹さを兼ね備えているのがなんとも沙都子らしく、ドラマチックでした。『ひぐらし業』をご覧になったばかりの皆さんは、もしかしたら「沙都子ムカつく」とか「理解できない」と感じている人もいるかと思います。ですが、最後にはちゃんと納得のいくラストが待っていますので、期待してお待ちいただければと思います。
There are various aspects to Satoko we haven't seen yet. Talks of her mischievous evil / weakness, the dichotomy of her human weakness and witch coldness in context of the Teppei episode. You may think that Satoko is crazy or nont understand her, but the ending will be convincing.

>――「綿騙し編」はいかがですか？
>川口　梨花の遺体が分校の便槽で発見されるというショッキングなラストでしたが、なぜそうなったのか。地下室のモニタで魅音が見たのは誰だったのかなど、『ひぐらし業』の視聴後であれば、沙都子の仕業であろうと考えるでしょうが……果たして!?
Is he implying Watadamashi wasn't Satoko's plan? Or it this commentary for the POV of a first time watcher?

>――続いては「祟騙し編」です。
>川口　やはり皆さんが気になっているのは鉄平の存在かと思います。沙都子側の描写を極力避けて制作したシリーズなので、いろいろな考察ができると思います。『ひぐらし卒』がどのようなストーリーになるのかはまだ言えませんので、多くは語れませんが、沙都子の動向に注目してもらいたいですね。
Tataridamashi was intented to show as little Satoko as possible to leave things open to interpretation. We should pay attention to Satoko's 動向 (trend/tendency/movement/attitude)? Well, yeah, it's not like that hasn't been considered to death.

>――そして「猫騙し編」からは完全オリジナルになりますから、『平成版ひぐらし』との違いということではなくなります。
>川口　梨花の絶対的な味方であるはずの赤坂の凶行にショックを受けた方も多くいたと思います。この編は「祟騙し編」のある意味ゆったりとした展開から急にショッキングな映像の連続にシフトしていますね。梨花のバラエティに富んだ殺され方に目が行きがちですが、そのなかに隠れたちょっとした描写にもヒントがあるかもしれません。
Nekodamashi was a sudden stylistic shift all right. Hints hidden in the ways Rika gets killed?

>――『ひぐらし卒』は『ひぐらし業』の解答編でありつつ、最後には独自のエンディングへ向かっていくと思います。『ひぐらし』ファンの多くがハッピーエンドを願っていると思いますが、そこはいかがですか？
>川口　確実に納得していただけるエンディングになっていると思います。それは皆さんの想像とは少し違う形になるかもしれません。新たなる「最高のエンディング」をお見せできるかと自負しています。
The ending. Is it a good end? It's going to be convincing, but probably different from what you imagined. The new "best ending" for Higurashi.

>>33990712
I ran out of characters there, but I also wanted to point out that Orange Wind was one of the few times the director used his supervisory powers. (He doesn't mention any of the other cases, though.) That BGM wasn't originally planned, he just really fucking wanted a Rika & Satoko duet. From this, I trust he uses his powers for good.

>>33990897
It was nice, but considering what happens later it's also terrible. I feel like it was added to try to make sure that people understand that Rika and Satoko were really close, even if that's still not the case for some.

I don't get it, is ciconia supposed to be a gayfest

>>33991389
>I don't get it, is ciconia supposed to be a gayfest
Seems like you understand it well enough.

>>33990431
a full VN adaptation of the book of Revelations would be unfathomably based

>>33991327
>It was nice, but considering what happens later it's also terrible.
Indeed. That's all R07's style of fluctuating between warm and cold moments to make the latter hit harder.
I think the insert song was a great complement to that and also a good way pace those uneventful peaceful years on screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1rtUz_9WiI

>>33991389
It's a dystopia.

>>33991484
so a gayfest

>>33991432
Why does r07 have such an affinity for faggots?

>>33991502
yes

>>33991502
that was the joke

>>33991504
He probably is one. Who dresses like this?

>>33991519
How dare you.
He just had troubles dressing that day. He spent a lot of time in the closet where he keeps his clothes, trying different things on. He was in there a long time. He had real troubles getting out of the closet that day. Some say he is still in there.

>>33991537
He probably draws pictures of Miyao getting into really embarrassing situations, like those girls from that R07 gallery.

>>33991564
Wish he'd share them

I dreamt about a Watadamashi theory.
Mion kills Satoko as indicated when the show showed us she has the keyes. Satoko thinks Keiichi did it which is why she's eyeing him like that in the episode following Rika's chastisement of K1. Satoko probably thinks that Rika is dead but unless she confirms it she can't know that, and convinces the Yamainu that Rika has been kidnapped by Mion, who is now protecting Keiichi. The Sonozaki dungen events play out, Satoko and Mion confront each other and Mion tells Satoko that she, in fact, did kill Rika, which makes Satoko sigh in relief as she can now safely die. She kills Mion before killing herself.

>>33990897
>That BGM wasn't originally planned, he just really fucking wanted a Rika & Satoko duet.
Really? Then I trust Passione even more now.

>>33991872
the director is a yurichad

>>33991844
Old theory but it is the most reasonable one. The end of that arc was one of the biggest confirmations of the Satoko looper theory before Satokowashi since you know it was a murder-suicide, you can see a bullet hole in Mion's forehead, and blood under Satoko's hair which suggests she shot herself in the temple.

I haven't seen that much anime over the years but I have never seen any continuation of a first season redeem the initial trainwreck.

>>33992025
While I have seen a lot series whose second season is better, I agree with you on the fact that no second season has ever managed to outright rescue a show.

>>33992054
Maybe if we believe hard enough a miracle will happen and Sotsu will be good. Haha.

>>33992083
Gou was entertaining. For the most part.

At least we can all agree Gou was not very good

>>33992156
I really liked it.

>>33991502
Definitely

>>33992156
Could've been better.

what if satoks gun is just a BB gun
and trolls bika

I have an important announcement to make.
Satoko and Rika have the same breast size.

That is, elementary schooler Satoko and high schooler Rika.

>>33992156
Gou was good.

>>33992368
I masturbate a lot to Satoko so I'm qualified to say that in my opinion it isn't good.

>>33992396
Then why do you think it's not very good?

>>33992408
Its not a complex reason and its an opinion that has been posted to death.
"The St.Lucia drama was stupid and the entire premise of a looper Satoko was badly executed."
Either way by now most of us are set on our opinions so its not worth it to discuss it any further.

>>33992492
Maybe it was bad on purpose.

>>33990712
these guys straight up lie in these interviews so I wouldn’t take anything they say seriously here

>>33992492
It's all Hanyuu's fault.

I think Gou was decent honestly. While a bit jarring at ep22 I still found it entertaining.

miyao in gou to fuck your shit up

>>33992656
Miyao is a female, then?

I think we can all agree that the first half of episode 20 and second half of episode 22 were the lowest points of Gou.

>>33992726
I didn't care about the suppsoed silliness of the prison scene, but Satoko pulling the epic face made me laugh.

>>33992726
Satoko going "ZETAI RIKKA UOOHH ';_:" while her eyes glow in red like some fucking Naruto character in ep 24 was also cringe in my opinion.

>>33992726
The lowest point of Gou was the boring ass CPS arc.

>>33992699
yeeees

>>33992792
Sky pirates assemble.

>>33992726
The low point of Gou was the entire first half

>>33991389
After Miyao’s gay date they don’t really talk about gay stuff anymore.

Oh fuck I posted an 07th meme on a completely unrelated thread by mistake

>>33992894
looool

>>33992825
Artist name?
I forgot.

>>33992899
It's embarrassing I hope nobody saw it

>>33992156
Watching it with 4chan was a 10/10 fantastic experience.
Watching it by myself it wouldn’t have been nearly as good.

>>33992991
I would have dropped it if I watched it by myself.

>>33992906
supreme legendary sorcerer k1 needs the mighty blue truth table clock and looperbane sword.

>>33993020
That dumb edit exists but I ddint save it.

>>33992894
You know there's a chance an anon will give you (You) for that unrelated wtc content.

>>33993036
I'm here for you brother.

SATOKOOOOOOO COME HERE THIS INSTANT MY ASS ISN'T GONNA WIPE ITSELF

>>33992767
>her eyes glow in red like some fucking Naruto character
yeaah bro that was like totes cringe X(

But seriously, I don't mind the witchmoodo effects. They're obviously going for a hard separation of human and witch personas.

>>33993082
das it mane

>>33993113

>>33993094
I'm coming, Rikaa~

>>33992906
idk but this is the original should be able to reverse search it

>>33993104
The witchmoodo effects are too chuuni for me and they really feel silly on some scenes, I laughed when witch moodo Satoko pulled a fucking gun out of nowhere in Neko.

>>33993094
shut the fuck up

>>33993157
The gun was hilariously cheesy, no problems there.

Everyone's starting to drop their Q1 announcements now
Ryukishi's have come April 1st on the dot before
Hopefully he'll do that again
and hopefully it will be fucking Phase 2

>>33989673
>Because she's fucking boring
Why?

>>33993468
She just is. Shannon is only interesting in her connection to Yasu/Beatrice, but by herself she's just boring. She's not witty or funny and on her own her personality doesn't really extend beyond servile meek maid girl for Jooji to fuck who is sickeningly polite

>>33993637
To me she is the most interesting of Yasu's intermediate personalities and the most winning probably if Battler isn't around, for the most part I liked Shannon from the orphanage who was Yasu's imaginary friend and after Yasu decided to resemble her. Shannon is just nice on her own and doesn't evoke any negative emotions, holy simplicity.

>>33993283
And hopefully it'll be an April Fools' joke

>>33993711
>To me she is the most interesting of Yasu's intermediate personalities
No way, Beatrice was infinitely more interesting than fucking Shannon lmao
>Shannon is just nice on her own and doesn't evoke any negative emotions
She's kind of just there, doesn't really do anything interesting on her own and serves as like a vessel for most of the interesting stuff for Yasu. On her own her personality is Genji-tier boring.

>>33988346
I'm too lazy to translate this Japanese, but if it's true, then Ryukishi is just an abomination. How can you do that to a direct sequel to your brainchild?

>>33993676
>>33993723
oh look, it's our resident autistic satokotard phoneposter who just dumps images for no reason

Hmm.

>>33993838
In the R07 febri interview he said he was so impressed with how well these guys remember Higurashi (better than himself at times, apparently) so he let them do their thing.

Some earlier sketches from @zzikina

>>33993974
Concerning yet exciting at the same time.

>>33993821
I'm not arguing that Beatrice is more interesting overall, but Beatrice is mostly a sleeping personality when Battler isn't on the island most of the time is spent with Yasu-Shannon. Plus, although Beatrice is certainly a statuesque lady with dignity, she is in some places deliberately pretentious and sort of overpowering in her true nature. Shannon is definitely more interesting than Kanon to me, I literally slept through the moments of romance between Jessica and Kanon, this cold edgy guy was of no curiosity whatsoever. And the comparison to Genji is ridiculous, Shannon is literally the closest person to the original Yasu.

>>33994023

>>33994044

>>33994060
I think this and the previous one have been posted here already.

>>33994088
bath

>>33994114

>>33994132
Some nii-niis as well

April is coming and so is the 07th Expansion announcement.
Are you ready for disappointment?

>>33994026
I mean that in the most optimal possible sense. Passione staff know their cicadas and R07 seems to trust them. He still supervises everything and has made some changes to lines as necessary.

>>33994155

>>33994162
>Are you ready for disappointment?
Always.

By @sirius1810405.
I feel like Lambda's mouth looks kinda weird here.

>>33994178
~fin~

>>33994206
>kinda weird
More like positively nightmarish.

>>33994162
>GET READY FOR
>HOU++
>COMING SOON TO THE SAMSUNG SMART FRIDGE

>>33994176
Why is it so bad though?

>>33993974
Sounds like bullshit PR talk to me

>>33994253
I'm a different anon, but what is the 'badness' of Gou?

>>33994206
Looks like she's holding a heart shaped pacifier.

>>33994313
At least read the interview yourself instead of making decisions based on what an anon said about it.

>>33994316
It's bad because I don't like it.

>>33994365
Let me guess. You just didn't like the conflict basis on which Gou is built? For everything else the anime is relatively good.

>>33990712
>The ending. Is it a good end? It's going to be convincing, but probably different from what you imagined. The new "best ending" for Higurashi.
What are we in for? Something even more saccharine and over-the-top with the power of friendship stuff that Matsuri?

>>33994365
Me either
Though I would also add the shitty plot of murdering people through time loops just due to a high school lesbian drama is kind of a terrible sequel to the original Higurashi and feels lazy.

>>33994421
It didn't have any animation.
The music was ok, but most of it was reused anyway.
Direction was flat. Ishuzoku Reviewers had better direction (same studio) and that was a joke anime.

>>33994316
>first cour is literally pointless
>second cour is a mix of happy tree friends-tier torture porn and lesbian high school drama

>>33994480
Satoko's original character plays a part in one way or another, she was always stupid, arrogant and hypocritical

>>33994549
It had violence in two fucking episodes, how sensitive are you people?

Over/under on Ciconia being another timeloop story?

>>33994316
In brief: The pacing was all over the place, some scenes had jarring QUALITY that made serious moments come off as goofy, and some parts that were very similar to the original (like the CWS stuff) definitely could have been shorter, not to mention the conflict that the show revolves around being very weak and relying on a decidedly pessimistic take on Rika and Satoko's characters.
It wasn't awful or anything, but it could have been a lot better.
You've probably heard the same thing a thousand times already during the last month or so.

>>33994041
Good thing most of the time we see Beatrice, it's with Battler. Which is why she's so interesting.
>I literally slept through the moments of romance between Jessica and Kanon
Sure, that doesn't make Shannon any more interesting though.
>Shannon is literally the closest person to the original Yasu.
Shannon specifically isn't Yasu though. Shannon is what Yasu desires as like her ideal, but her ideal person is a normal ordinary person - i.e. incredibly fucking boring. It works for the story but it doesn't make Shannon enjoyable or interesting or attract people to her which is why nobody in these threads posts art of her or are dying to see the interesting developments of the big titted maid character in comparison to like literally any other character.

>>33994562
It wasn’t the same and you know it

>>33994480
> terrible sequel to the original Higurashi and feels lazy
>The plot of the original stems from Takano's schizoid love for his grandfather
>The plot of the sequel stems from Satoko's schizoid love for her friend
What's wrong?

>>33994628
The same as to what?

>>33994628
what does this even mean

>>33994564
Ryukishi hasn't done a timeloop story since Higurashi.
I doubt Ciconia will be one.

>>33994645
Just compare the guts scene to any scene in the first cour

>>33994564
Watch >>33989962
If it's going to be a time reset thing it'll have to do with the nature Ciconia's universe being a simulation.

>>33994564
It'll be but not yet. The world didn't really end during Phase 2 so I see no reason to start a loop now. Usually you have most characters or the main character die during a loop which wasn't the case for Ciconia.

>>33994668
The answer arcs in Higurashi were always more graphic than the question arcs.
Remember Meakashi?

>>33994668
Why are you complaining about a single violent scene in Higurashi of all things?

>>33994691
Phase 1* sorry
>>33994662
He's working on LOOPERS which is a time loop story. He likes time loops a lot.

>>33993838
I’m sure that R07 planned all major events (like, he was the one who came up with the looper Satoko idea, he wouldn’t just let someone else decide that) but he didn’t feel the need to micromanage every line of dialogue.

>>33994699
>>33994721
Cuz it felt like a scene id see on adult swim

>>33994641
That had true passion.
This one has true Passione

>>33994780
Remember Meakashi?

>>33994780
I don't know if you know this, but Higurashi has had violence in it before. It's kind of a recurring thing that happens a lot.

>>33994830
It was never torture porn that insisted on itself

>>33994870
The fingernail torture scene was literally torture porn, though.

>>33994870
>that insisted on itself
You don't even know what that sentence means without googling it.

>>33994870
Wtf does that even mean?
People have this weird elitism about violence in anime. “Oh I would NEVER enjoy violence just for the SAKE of it, I’m too GOOD for that, I need everything that happens in my cartoons to have a DEEP ARTISTIC PURPOSE.” Like they’re terrified of people thinking that they might actually like Elfen Lied or something like that.
WTC has never had as much violence in it as people assume, but it does have some. If you don’t like it then don’t watch. Simple as that.

>>33994598
> Sure, that doesn't make Shannon any more interesting though.
For me, it does. George and Shannon's love line is much better spelled out.
> Shannon is what Yasu desires as like her ideal, but her ideal person is a normal ordinary person - i.e. incredibly fucking boring. It works for the story but it doesn't make Shannon enjoyable or interesting or attract people to her
But she doesn't look completely perfect; she often screws up in front of everyone, which gives her away as Yasu. And she doesn't look boring, she's a lively character with her own emotions and inner feelings, I don't know what it takes to read a VN to not see that at all. It is one of the most sensitive characters. It's not my fault that most people are lustful animals who only want to see boobs every second of their miserable lives.

>>33994870
look at this history revisionist

>>33994956
Shannon just insists upon herself while being manly.

>>33994441
Maybe not.
>『ひぐらし』ファンの多くがハッピーエンドを願っていると思いますが、そこはいかがですか？
The interviewer asks about a literal happy end.
>新たなる「最高のエンディング」をお見せできるかと自負しています。
He answers that they're proud to show us new "best ending" to Higurashi. Literally "saikou no endingu". Not necessarily happy/saccharine.

He also reiterates at least a couple of times that the end will be conclusive/satisfying, like R07 said in the livestream interview. Personally, I think it's going to be definitive end in the sense that this story of 1983 loops cannot be continued, that part will be concluded for good. In his Febri interview, R07 talked about wanting to do a story about the club members' kids next time.

>>33991537
>He spent a lot of time in the closet
Well played.

>>33995068
>R07 talked about wanting to do a story about the club members' kids next time.
I hate shipperfags and I hope K1 ends up adopting kids with Satoshi making everyone at /a/ cry and shit their pants.

>>33995107
O...kay? I think you're lost, >>>/a/ is that way.

>>33994956
She's clumsy in a cute moe "ooh I dropped the tea help me George-sama" way, which is again really fucking boring.
>she's a lively character with her own emotions and inner feelings
Without Yasu Shannon is literally just a moe maid girl and her feelings don't really extend much beyond that. In the wider context of Yasu Shannon's early feelings about love and furniture and her relation to Battler and everything else is much more interesting, but the personality of 'Shannon' isn't interesting at all.
>It's not my fault that most people are lustful animals who only want to see boobs every second of their miserable lives.
Shannon is literally the character with the biggest tits, which is why its doubly funny that nobody cares about her.

>>33995107
Go back, anytime.

>>33993821
> Beatrice was infinitely more interesting than fucking Shannon
i wouldn't say Beatrice is a particularly interesting character, it's just a mask working as the perfect woman for Battora, just hiding her true identity, which is not good

>>33995107
based, death to shippertards

>>33995107
Tourism on /jp/ I see.

So this is what Rena tought Rika would become?

>>33995141
>>33995150
>>33995191
You are the ones mad at my worthless statement.
I simply wished to voice my disdain for shipperfags and most of them reside on that board.
Go jerk off to your Rena/Mion x K1 fanfics losers.

>>33995160
Beatrice is absolutely interesting, it's why the highlights of the game are Battler and Beatrice's banter with each other Beatrice making fun of him. Beatrice literally could have just been an evil witch with no deep character who is evil just for the sake of being evil and she'd still be leaps and bounds ahead of Shannon and her boring fucking dialogue

>>33995253
>You are the ones mad at my worthless statement.
I just made a suggestion, geez, why is everyone so fucking sensitive these days? Stay here if you like.

>>33995253
Shipperfags hate him!

>>33994884
>>33994952
>>33995012
wtf? I hate the original higurashi now!

>>33995367
Higurashi's writing was never that good.

>>33995379
Didn't you like the K1 curses being just coincidences lmao? I think r07 said "lmao" when he explaned it as such

>>33995424

>>33995451
I get nervous fits of laughter when thinking about this image during the day.

>>33995424
He masturbated while thinking about the fans' dissapointed faces too

Don't hit me with this bullshit, why make the setting a brothel in the first place if you want to appeal to purityfags?

>>33995323
Optimal resolution

>>33995753
She's joking, she literally rims old men for money

>>33995753
I'm pretty sure they're making fun of (You), anon

>>33995753
>pure

>>33995778
>34x34x8
The color resolution is not optimal. Not even close!

>>33995147
> She's clumsy in a cute moe "ooh I dropped the tea help me George-sama" way, which is again really fucking boring.
You're fitting the character to some trivial anime archetype for some reason, it's wrong, it's an integral part of Shannon's personality, if for you there's nothing but 'moe' (which in principle is not moe) in the character throughout the story, that doesn't mean it is
> Without Yasu Shannon is literally just a moe maid girl and her feelings don't really extend much beyond that. In the wider context of Yasu Shannon's early feelings about love and furniture and her relation to Battler and everything else is much more interesting, but the personality of 'Shannon' isn't interesting at all.
Without Yasu, Shannon is firstly Yasu's friend who constantly supported her and was the only reason she found an outlet in the orphanage, secondly under the guise of Shannon Yasu fell in love with Battler, thirdly she has her own gorgeous romantic line with George which is nice to watch
Shannon has her own distinct and pronounced character, which is distinctly vivid, unlike that of Kanon who legitimately lost to her in a duel.

>>33995282
Dude, you could have just said you were icy, insensitive and unempathetic, we could have ended there. For you it was boring to watch the dialogues/monologues revealing the nature of Yasu-Shannon, for me it wasn't.

Definitely not Battler

>>33994441
>Something even more saccharine and over-the-top with the power of friendship stuff that Matsuri?
Yes, this time it'll be the power of love!

>>33992025
Kai was better than the first season.

>>33995879
>it's an integral part of Shannon's personality
yeah, her personality as a clumsy meek maid lmao.
>Without Yasu, Shannon is firstly Yasu's
You literally just linked it back to Yasu again lol
>Shannon has her own distinct and pronounced character
No shit, I'm saying that her character and personality on its own is boring which is why nobody gives a shit about her here compared to pretty much every other character.
>For you it was boring to watch the dialogues/monologues revealing the nature of Yasu-Shannon
No, retard. Yasu-Shannon is interesting, Shannon's personality on its own is boring as fuck. That's my point, and it's why discussion of Shannon relates to Yasu-Shannon instead of 'Shannon' as the big titted boring maid.

I don't know why you're so weirdly desperate to prove that Shannon is interesting lmao, go watch Shannon drop a cup and them cum over her deep personality if you want nobody's stopping you.

>>33996104
This is correct. I think it would be watchable on its own too.

>>33995879
Ciconia isn't interesting. The relation between Ciconia, Umineko and Higurashi is more interesting.

Shannon isn't interesting. The dynamic between Yasu-Shannon-Kanon-Beatrice is interesting. Beatrice is interesting.

>>33996297
>Ciconia, AKA Metal Gear without Kojima's convoluted stuff isn't interesting
I tought people got better at baiting

What's with Ryukishi's protagonists forgetting promises?

>>33996176
No, guys, with your logic any personality of Yasu can be called boring separately just because it is created for something and is a vessel for Yasu, this is completely retarded, you literally hammer on romantic chemistry and the fact that everyone has their own soul prescribed.
> Ciconia isn't interesting.
Ciconia is interesting and it would potentially be better than Umineko.

>>33992894
I almost made a post about getting abused by Erika on an entire other board

>>33996441
>any personality of Yasu can be called boring separately
Nope, see >>33995282
Beatrice could have been an entirely separate personality entirely unconnected from Yasu and Yasu's own struggle, and could have literally just been a one dimensional evil bloodthirsty witch and Beatrice's moments would still be the highlight of the game.

>>33996569
As I said before, Beatrice is just a pretentious statuesque lady, an evil, bloodthirsty witch who, for all her facade, is nothing of herself. She is just a kind of unnatural role that the actor plays. It's literally pulled from Buttler's brain about a girl he thinks is perfect, that's all. Basically, she's just playing as an entertaining puppet for the reader. But Shannon lives and exists apart from Yasu for obvious reasons.

>>33996756
> Buttler
good

Good god some people in this thread need to take their medication

>>33996868
Especially you.

>>33996868
I don't believe in meds or psychological treatment.
So never.

>>33996884
But I didn't even get into any of these dumb arguments

>>33996756
You're just agreeing with me but in an incredibly gay illiterate faggoty manner. My point was that even if Beatrice was a one dimensional villain character she'd still be interesting from her dialogue and personality, and your point was... what? She's unnatural but serves to be entertaining for the reader?

The power of friendship....reforged!

>>33996915
You're in a dumb argument right now.

Why are the anons in this thread so angry? Take burgie and you will feel better.

>>33996943
I don't know, man, when I'm introduced to any creation, no matter what format, I try to spot interesting characters that will represent something deeper and more essential than just memes or entertainment.

>>33997102
I am a temperamental mediterranean subhuman.

>>33997102
Shut the fuck up, your anus is a refrigerator.

>>33997102
Ange doesn't share, faker.

>>33997111
Good thing the discussion wasn't about deep and essential stuff and was instead about Shannon's personality in a vacuum separated from Yasu, dickhead.

>>33997102
And we're still relatively low on IPs, too. A couple of uncouth tourists must've stayed.

I want to have sex with Shannon, ergo, Shannon is good. Q.E.D.

S-s-s-sex... with e-erika.... oh god.... I wanna.... Just.... sniff her cunny..... SEX!!!!!! SEX WITH ERIKA!!!!!!!! QSEZRGihqGDSQHISDGHIHI SEEEEEEEX!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33997211
But my opinion is that Shannon is quite an independent person who could generally live without Yasu, you know? You just think she's boring for totally subjective reasons like pseudo-assigned 'moe' and all that.

>>33997255
At what point are you gonna stop blaming everything on a boogeyman to make yourself feel better? /jp/'s always had people arguing, including 07th threads.

>>33997255
Stop posting this image. Please. I have to masturbate to rika every time.

>>33997290

hello what is up you stupid n-words? was phase 2 release announced yet?

akinator couldn't guess miyao...
nor /v/-tan but he wasn't even on the list of characters.

>>33997343
> n-words?
Fucking cowardly cunt

>>33997334
I want to turn her into a living onahole

>>33997349
>/v/-tan
why?

>>33997277
>You just think she's boring for totally subjective reasons
I'm imagining the burst of lightning thundering down from the heavens, as God himself strikes this wisdom into you. Indeed, I admit it. My opinions on what personalities I find interesting are indeed my own opinions. In fact if I could be so presumptuous and arrogant, I might extend this to people at large and say "a lot of people find Shannon's personality bland and boring" in comparison to the livelier characters of Umineko for similar subjective reasons. And in fact, I might go as far as to link these subjective reasons for finding a particular personality bland to the post that started this conversation, as to why people don't post art of her here.

>>33997349
I did a quick run and Akinator guessed Miyao.
The first time it thought I was talking about Sayo lol.

>>33997413
i heard akinator looks at your open tabs
so i did it on my phone and he couldn't guess it.

I hear akinator looks at your open moms
So I did it on my desk and he couldnt fuck it

>>33997398
You just destroyed me. Okay, I just thought you were claiming that your opinion was the only true one... never mind.

>>33997349
It can't even guess Satoko anymore. Thanks, Gou.

This thread would be good if it at least had a picture of someone relevant in the OP

>>33997398
>I'm imagining the burst of lightning thundering down from the heavens, as God himself strikes this wisdom into you.

>>33997494
In all fairness, this must be confusing for poor akinator.

>>33997527
Too many people play it and give incorrect answers, anyway.

>>33994662
Ok, maybe Umineko wasn’t TECHNICALLY a timeloop story, but for all practical purposes it was. What else do you call a story where dead characters come back to life each chapter and repeat the same events with minor variations?

>>33997699
>What else do you call a story where dead characters come back to life each chapter and repeat the same events with minor variations?
Awesome.

>>33997699
You wouldn't call the act of resetting a video game a time loop wouldn't you?

>>33997713
what was the point of posting this image.

This is far too cute for what's about to happen.

>>33997743
What is the point in doing anything.

>>33997743
He was afraid of commit the same sin again

>>33997750
good thing she got a gun so she didn't have to suffer...

>>33997767
That sentence kept me from concentrating in my prayers during Sunday mass.

>>33997754
Are... are you ok, Ange?

>>33997786

>>33994662
Pretty sure he's talking about resetting the characters to the beginning as opposed to a magical literal time loop.

>>33997754
>>33997802
I'm not fucking around anymore Ange, if you don't be my gf and let me cuddle you it's over

>>33997743
That Beatrice was Italian. It does not specify which Beatrice, so it is possible that Beatrice Portinari is meant. The Italianon is Italian and is interested in Umineko, whose characters are present in this picture. It is quite possible that all this has something to do with the fact that Beatrice Portinari was Italianon's ancestor and he already has it in his genes that he will read Umineko (in which Beatrice Portinari was used as a prototype for Beato) when he grows up.

>>33997720
I mean, I could.

>>33997826
in awe at the fact that italians believe they can walk around with stupid fucking names like that without being molested

>>33997826
>The _____ is italian
Who? Did you mess up while typing anon?

why the FUCK was beatrice so cute? UUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>33997720
No because it's not part of the plot. Whereas in Umineko multiple kakeras of the same scenario with different outcomes is part of the gameboard the characters constantly partake in, much like Higurashi. Umineko takes it on a more meta level since our main characters exist outside the gameboard and aren't a mere piece like Rika, but the concept is still there.

>>33997869
Men aren't cute.

>>33997890
When are you goat-heads going to realize that meta Beato has a cunt and real boobs?

>>33997913
meta cunt, meta boobs*

>>33997890
oh yeah?

>>33997890
Beatrice Castiglioni has never been a man

>>33997928
>Castiglioni
reminder Italians are unironically named this

>>33997913
"Meta Beato" isn't even real in-universe, that thing is part of a book and we're shown that it has the same manface as real Beato.
>>33997928
Manface.

>>33997913
>>33997918
Meta beato has big meta boobs and meta cunt. real """beato""" has fake big boobs but a real (infertile) cunt. If you disagree I will backtrace your address and murder you.

>>33997928
>>33997946
https://voca.ro/1dgPAaogDI2m

>>33997913
Also meta Beato could be destroyed by pointing out how it's not real even in-universe haha. Illusions to illusions.

>>33997963
if I had a stupid fucking name like pastalasagneoli i'd kill myself

>>33997963
You killed me, man.

>"Meta Beato" isn't even real in-universe, that thing is part of a book

>>33997975
It's literally how Italians pronounce it.

who cares about gender guys, if the canon is indeterminate, you just imposed your belief in dick and testicles because it's more comfortable for your true nature

>>33997963
Beatoricky?

>>33997986
She's hurt by words ergo it's truth. She only "exists" through delusions. It's literally a manifestation of covering your ears and going lalalala.

>>33998017
Maybe it's a "che" more than a "k", but I have heard Italians pronounce the name both ways

>>33998023
Ikuko uses red truth at the press conference, magic exists.

>>33997990
idk Castiglioni is spelled beautifully, but it may not be pronounced very elegantly, no doubt, in any case it is common in Italy

In the same way you can make meta Beato disappear by pointing out it's not real, Eva-Beatrice and her magic about giant jellies and shit were disproven and shown that it was just Eva with a gun.

>>33998035
what

>>33998004
>if the canon is indeterminate
It's not though, Yasu is objectively a male.

yasu is like that killer from sleepaway camp.

>>33998055
no, in canon Yasu's gender is indeterminate, otherwise there wouldn't have been this ambiguity bullshit in the first place, for you he's a man because you like penises

>>33998029
>implying ikuko actually went to a conference
>implying the conference existed to begin with
>implying ikuko actually made it as a famous write
>implying this wasn't all another layer of fiction created by failed NEET writer ikuko

>>33998045
what what?

>>33998102
It's ironic because this post is a layer of fiction created by a failed NEET Anon

>>33998117
I got onfused anon

>>33998119
I am a proud burger flipper tyvm.

>>33998130
why? i like the spelling, but i don't like the pronunciation, although in their home country it's commonplace for them, it's just unpleasant to listen to for strangers

>>33998155
I didn't get what you was sayin' da first time

>>33998182
Sitting here with nothing to do
Sitting here thinkin only of you
BUT YOU'LL NEVER GET OUT OF THERE
SHE'LL NEVER GET OUT OF THERE

>>33998182
>tfw spent at least $400 trying to get the new SSS "Entertainer" Chloe drop

I swear, this rude Hanyuu hater has to be one of you guys.

>>33998416
Hanyuu haters of the world, unite.

>>33998416
Nah it's pretty common from what I've seen actually.

>>33998416
Through hate of Hanyuu, unity.

>>33998095
It’s only ambiguous to a limited extent, this was probably a male originally.

>>33998102
Ange knew about the conference too in the ‘real’ world so Ange would have to be fiction too on that level.
Even Ikuko can’t create fiction that fat.

Every thread is so good now that the Mediterranean spam demon is gone.

>>33998654
Agreed.

>>33998570
imagine whatever you want, nobody's stopping you, but there's no need to claim canon, Ryukishi left the gender undefined because it was intended, in Ciconia he repeats the theme with the apparent uncertainty of Miyao's biological sex, even though he promised to reveal it to Jayden, i'm sure some shit will happen or in the heat of the moment uni-trap will backtrack - not the point, but the mystery will remain a mystery and you'll get the message that it doesn't matter and it's not worth asking and it's for goat-heads in general, and anyway, "Without love, it cannot be seen"

post images of smug Rika

>>33998654
rude

>>33998704
Stop it I don't feel like cooming today.

>>33998654
I wouldn't say that they're good but they're comfy and that's all I want.

ehehehehehehehehehehehehehh

ebin

>>33998704
>>33998718

>>33998718
>tfw coomed yesterday even though I wasn't at my "at least one week since last coom" goal

>>33998704
One helluva smug tea-drinking cunt, coming right up.

>>33998704

>>33998783
>>33998738
I lost it.
Sex with Rika Furude Aaahnng

>>33998734
*zaps u*

>>33998732
i'm a tourist and your country is very nice

Why is the OG Bern sprite so fucking sexy I shouldn't feel these feelings for bad art

>>33998817
>>33998783

>>33998704

>>33998893
you're a virgin

>>33998704

boning THE rika-chan. The secret illicit meeting behind the saiguden to reach into the secret compartment under the dress of the rika chama and investigate the nopan rumors. the hidden underground love hotel of Hinamizawa. I have boned rika 37,195 times. looping only for the purpose of bOning rika chama implanting my seed to renew the furude clan with my sprouting seed. observing the gentle plains of the chest of the rika chama through her nearly see through green dress while she looks at me with a curious expression. the unfortunate fact of finding out rika chama has already had her "red day" after I have planted her implanted my seed in her painted wall hidden chamber of the impregnation ritual tools shed. a usual walk around Hinamizawa with rika chama leading me on a leash and collar (???) domination by too much wine consumption induced rikastel alternate personality drained testicles dehydration induced blackout. accidental occurrence when the condom breakage causes illegal modification XXXXXX high speed police chase with my pregnant rika wife in the back seat due to a statutory rape. joke of a fragment timeline when rubber fisting glove mailed to furude shrine leading to local man death by prolapsed anus. Uneasy feeling when entering Furude residence, responding officer reports sensation like deja vu of immense pressure on groin and feeling of dehydration (the officer was me btw). The hidden rika chama doujin collection sealed for 1000 years to prevent evil thoughts from contaminating the earth is accidentally opened by local middle schooler and non stop 8+ hour painful erection. unknown how the rika CHAMA can possibly enjoy performing watanagashi with half gallon of my seed inside her causing a strange bulge on her stomach region ha ha. local photographer threatened by three FAmilies after capturing illicit rendezvous between furude shrine maiden and anonymous poster (you)

>>33998817
>>33998930
>>33998976
https://files.catbox.moe/vktutq.webm

>>33998976
lazy to read, shorter, retard

>>33998989
>>33998704

>>33998983
holy guacamole

>>33998989
Not tricking me with that

>>33998983
i can't get off to these AI animated images, something about them hits my uncanny valley threshold

>>33999014
That's okay anon. As long as you have wanted to bone THE rika-chan at some point in your life, we are cool.

>>33999026
what a pleasant post

>>33998996
best pic

>>33999054
>>33999059
I am nice to anyone who also likes Rika-chama

>>33999069
Rika is definitely a sweet girl

>>33998704

>>33998704
>>33999089
And you are definitely a swet anon.

>>33998983
Goddamn.

>>33998704
smug

>>33998704

>>33998983
throatfucking THE rika-chan

>>33998704
smuggier

satokobros I don't feel so good...

safe sex with THE rika-chan

>>33998704
smuggiest/smuggest

>>33999131
that's her blowing you

>>33999139
Rika's a big girl

>>33999139
Satoko is Rika's friend, and any friend of Rika's is my friend.

>>33999166
>Satoko is Rika's friend
Is she? She looks pretty terrified there...

>>33999155
Letting Rika-chama take charge!

>>33998983
>ejaculation at 16 seconds
That's just too fast, Rika-chama's mouth can't be THAT good

>>33998704

>>33999179
being boned by THE rika-chan

>>33999166
Rika is Satoko's friend, and any friend of Satoko is my friend.

>>33999190
Rika-chama has become an unstoppable semen fiend after practicing sex for 100 years. She can bring even the hardiest of men to an orgasm in under 30 seconds through her god-like technique.

>>33998704

glazing Rika-chan like a donut

Very blue thread
I like it, I like it

>>33999209
>>33998704
Rika is horny.

>>33999054
may I ask the author?

>>33999209
Rubbing RIKA'S UNDERAGE FUCKING BOOBS

>>33998704
Being mounted and having your pelvis pulverized by THE Rika-chan

>>33999302
>RIKA'S UNDERAGE FUCKING BOOBS
But she is 100 YEARS OLD RET ARD

>>33999311
Her tits aren't 100 years old, they are the age of her current body.

>>33999301
dunno

>>33999302
>>33999311
Her body is underage but her mind is that of an obaachan. That's why Rika Furude is sex.

>>33999307
hehehe pelvirized

>>33998704

>>33999346
Rika please I need to feed my children can I have some back?

>>33998738
>>33998718
>>33998783
>>33998930
>>33998966
>>33999102
>>33999118
>>33999133
>>33999153
>>33999196
>>33998901
>>33998976
>>33998983
>>33999054
>>33999131
>>33999190
>>33998996
>>33999069
>>33999166
>>33999146
>>33999230
>>33999268
haaaaa... aaaaaahhh... aauuuh... FUCK FUCK SEX EROTIC AND SEXY RIKAAAA
SEXY
RIKA CUNNY i lick, i treasure, gently lick lick lick LICK LICKING THE RIKA-CHAN RIKA NO LABIA SUGOI i wanna lick i wanna lick i wanna tongue THE rika-chan shlurrp shlrrupp shluurrp rika. I wanna taste her, tastingTHE RIKA-CHAN HER BLOOMING BREASTS, HER CULTIVATING CUNNY I WANNA LICK

>>33999054
>>33999301
Looks like TheGoldenSmurf's artstyle.

>>33999353
Fight for it, no freebies

>>33999268
Delicious

>>33999360
Rika's cunny juice can cure not just Hinamizawa Syndrome, but also cancer.

>>33998704

Geez. I vastly preferred when Rena dominated the thread instead.

Maria hinamizawa’d

>>33999514
Rena is a looper and the final big-bad of Sotsu. I refuse to explain.

In terms of evil good is evil.

>>33999514
Rena is cute too but not as many smugs.

Damn, Rikaposters are so horny today. You made me horny too. Please take responsibility.

>>33999360
literally me

>>33999643
Rika will have sex with Satoko too.

>>33999514
>>33999573
>>33999602
We can have both.

>>33999702
Yup.

>>33999730

I want to smell, lick, and rub my cock on this armpit.

>>33999753
>>33998704