/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33949656
thanks big nigga

I'm going to buy the first press edition of the remake.

Now, I don't know anything about Kara no Kyoukai, Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty Blood, Melty Blood Re-ACT, Melty Blood Act Cadenza, Melty Blood Actress Again, Tsuki no Sango, Notes, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, Fate/stay night, Hollow ataraxia, Unlimited codes, Tiger colosseum, Fate/zero, Garden of Avalon, Koha-Ace, Take Moon, Carnival Phantasm, Emiya Gohan, Prisma Illya, Prisma Illya 2wei, Prisma Illya 3rei, Type Redline, Apocrypha, Case Files, Prototype, Prototype Fragments, Labyrinth, Strange Fake, Extra, Extra Last Encore, CCC, CCC Foxtail, Extella, Extella Link, Requiem, or Fate/Grand Order.

But I think

>>33949675
My pleasure. First time creating one.

so, if in 5 hours we got tsuki collab, should we spam it here or just invade fgog?

>>33949761
Don't.

fancy Riesbyfe

>>33949818
how do I even pronounce her name?
Rice-beef?

>>33949743
Is that the one with the material? I'm think of getting it too.

>>33949836
Hell yeah. I can't pass up that 100 page material book. It looks too good.

>>33949801
That Ciel looks much better than the remake art we saw. Her hair is much more expressive and not as smooth, like it should be.

>>33949829
Roast Beef

>>33949829
Rizubaife

>>33949844
Holy shit 100 pages that's a lot. I hope Nasu doesn't fall back on his bad habit of explaining to much lore in these material books instead of writing it into the story.

Holy shit bros Nasu is cutting Arihiko and Aoko, what a f*cking hack.

>>33949994
Except that we've already seen Arihiko's redesign? Actually he looks way better.

>>33949994
They're both in the trailer

>>33950005
>>33950011
Trailer was only teasing Arihiko and Aoko for Melty bros. They won't be in Tsuki R.

>>33949994
no worries, we will always have the original to go back to

>>33950039
>Arihiko in melty ever
Why are you being retarded?

>>33949994
"???"

>>33950052
Uh did you not read the news?

Is Millenium Castle Brunestud located in Avalon?

>>33950066
I admittedly didn't read the MB part of the interview because I don't care about it. Is he actually going to be in it now? I thought they didn't put any firm names of the characters.

>>33950082
No, it's located in the reverse side. Avalon is also in the reverse side. The reverse side is big.

>>33950099
And the inner side is inside the reverse side.
And the inner side is avalon and archetype stage.

>>33950082
ONE LIFE, ONE DEATE

>>33949994
Aoko's in the trailer, and she is irreplaceable, period.

>>33950099
>>33950114
Innersea of the Planet is not the Reverse Side, those two are different terms. Innersea specifically refers to where the Earth's soul located, which is only Avalon

>>33950438
Reverse side is a macro space where things that are not compatible with the outer earth resides, like elementals and other pure spirits.
Inner side is a part of the Reverse side.

>>33950461
Yup that's right, I just wanted to clarify that those two are not the same thing and yeah Innersea is a part of the Reverse Side

>>33949656
You should have pushed the button, onii-chan.

>>33949656
https://jigex.com/4zbg

>>33952347
gg

>>33952347
we did it reddit

>>33953825
Make me stop.

>>33953825
I'm unable to

>>33953825
make me cum and it'll be the last time, I promise

>>33953825
Every time I close my eyes...I wake up feeling so horny...

>>33953992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj5HPQha9kw

Do you think she'll be playable in the new Meltan?

>>33954772
Breeding with Sensei!

>>33954776
Only if you ace your tests!

>>33954772
I think she's there to be the Taiga knockoff, because they started off with 'we need to change Ciel-sensei for something else' and wrote a bunch of dialogue with Aoko but then realized they didn't want to show Aoko before the final epilogue.

>>33954772
Who the fuck is this

>>33955159
shikis teacher

>>33955183
She's a qtπ

>>33954772
kinda hope that shiki is gonna murder ciel to end up with her teacher

>>33955323
They don't have the balls to write that

>>33955323
ciel suffers enough in her own route

>console exclusive

>>33955404
good

>>33956139
Just use Yuzu bro

What the fuck is this shit honestly. It's a visual novel, and not even the longest one Nasu wrote. How hard is it to make 5 routes (I really doubt there's gonna be a Satsuki route, they would've included it into Near Moon if it was happening)? It's not fucking Star Citizen, it's just a visual novel, why after all these years are you realizing it piecemeal? Did Nasu get writer's block or something? Fuck this. Unless part one is somehow as long as all of FSN I fail to see any legitimate reason to do it like this. Or maybe I'm overthinking it and they just want to sell it twice (or thrice, with some sort of "complete" edition coming out eventually).

>>33956978
Type Moon? More like Type Money.

>tfw no Shizuki

>>33949994
Put your grasses on
Nothing will be wong

>>33955323
No.

>>33954772
Her head looks bigger than normal for some reason

I tried to fix Arc's hair from the remake. What do you guys think?

>>33959692
Still looks mostly the same. People want a different style entirely

>>33959713
Any thing you think I could try and salvage any further?

>>33956978
Anon, it's a 45 hour long VN. Sure, I would have liked the whole thing at once too, but that's longer than the entirety of the original.

>>33959774
I'm not really artistically minded, so I'm probably not the best at deciding that. I liked her older style of clothing that was a little baggier and more huggable
It's obvious that they want her to look younger but I feel like that's sort of the problem since her face is now the same face as every other character, so maybe a more distinctive nose would help. Arc from the tsukihime anime looks the most womanly to me honestly, the design is actually not so bad

>>33956978
Wasn't FSN around 50 hours? If so these two routes are going to be almost as long.

>>33960284
>Wasn't FSN around 50 hours?
Unless you speedread like a motherfucker no way. It's really long and one of the longest VNs out there.

>>33960284
>FSN around 50 hours
how fast have you been reading..?

>>33956978
Do you have any idea how many assets does Mahoyo, a 15-20 hours game, contain. If they are going for even half of that visual polish, it's totally reasonable for such a small team that also works on a shitton of other projects to take that long.
>>33960284
Took me around 70 hours without skipping voices.

>>33959959
this took them 13 years.

>>33960284
Maybe if you're Japanese.

>>33960453
>If they are going for even half of that visual polish
It should have more really. This is full HD. Mahoyo is technically 576p.

>>33960551
And? 45 hours for an episodic release VN is not absurd.

>>33960606
13 years dev time for the first part of an episodic release is absurd. Especially from a company that release mahoyo 1 in 2012 and has yet to release part 2. And Mahoyo is a 20 hour release.

>>33960566
That's bullshit. So are any of those reviews of people with such low playing times. There's so much fucking text. Your playing time should be multiple days.

>>33960625
It's been 13 years since it was announced, not 13 years of dev time.

>>33960625
>13 years dev time for the first part of an episodic release is absurd
Sure. But that's not really relevant.

>>33960625
>13 years dev time for the first part of an episodic release is absurd
I see you haven't played half life

>>33960663
Nigger I don't know when you think VN development starts, but it starts with a basic story draft and art designs. Both of which were present when they made the announcement. So It's actually been more than 13 years. You even have had Nasu say the exact same shit about changing the city and time the game is set in, don't pull this fucking cyberpunk 2077 excuse on me when you had Nasu admit shit like how he wanted Tsukihime remake and the 2014 UBW anime to match up.

>>33960606
Assets were most likely created in a much higher resolution in either of the games and then downscaled. Plus I'm not even sure if drawing in higher resolution necessarily takes longer. Either way I was talking more about density of assets per scene and complex scripting, not that.

>>33960705
Are you seriously arguing that Tsuki R has been in continuous development for 13 years? Nasu even refers to a halt in development in the most recent interview.
>cyberpunk 2077
Maybe fuck off back to wherever you came from.

>>33960789
>Assets were most likely created in a much higher resolution in either of the games and then downscaled
HD re-release when? Come on, milk some money out of me Nasu.

I don't know why you guys are arguing when it was already made clear in the interview that FGO was the reason why there has been a holdup.

He must’ve started working on Tsukihime after Mahoyo. At that time FGO was starting so he was busy with that and directing all of FGO. It also released like hot trash so he must’ve been busy with meetings and writing for the game. I believe that COVID helped make Tsukihime a reality since he was locked inside and had to finish Tsukihime at this point. He also admits to stopping work on Tsukihime at one point due to his incompetence. This is a GRR Martin situation and Nasu admits that he’s sorry of this taking so long.

>>33961011
When you think about it, if it wasn't for Mahoyo being delayed so much, we probably would have had Tsukihime R before FGO.

Who's the guy that been commissioning Len for some time now? Not that I'm complaining.

>>33960036
I shrunk the nose a bit, does it look a bit more unique? I'm trying to make it less sameface without looking too out of place, and I want it to be easily modded in with out having to cause massive changes.

>>33961228
:^)

Ciel looks more like a kouhai than a senpai. I don't know who lied to Takeuchi. She only looks older than Shiki in the Melty version of her with her hair more sharp. The flat hair in the remake looks terrible and makes her look more like mashu.

>>33961067
I'd say outside mishaps only delayed Mahoyo by a year, maybe 18 months.
Fact is, Nasu wanted the polish to be extreme, and so his ego kept delaying it.
TR might've been released earlier, depending on the inner scheduling.

>>33961383
The original Ciel is ugly so it's fine.

>>33961441
>The original Ciel is ugly
Not as ugly as Mash

>>33961555
I don't agree.

>>33961383
Mash is way uglier

I wonder if there's going to be an eclipse even with the far-side routes missing.

>>33961828
I highly doubt it.

>>33956978
It's likely he didn't even start on the remake until last year as FGO's numbers tanked so he's rushing it out piecemeal to try and stem the tide of FGO's irrelevance.

>>33961601
l-lewd!

>>33961383
I just don't get why Takeuchi decided to change her so completely. Even nu-Arc is somewhat recognizable, but Ciel is just a completely different character, there's not a bit of her left. And it's a damn shame because she had the best spritework in the original novel.

>>33962086
He brushed her hair and gave her a blazer?

>>33962086
agreed

>>33962124
New hair, new eyes, new glasses, new clothes. She doesn't look like Ciel at all.

It’s a shame Takeuchi went overboard with her remake design, but he must have looked at old Ciel and think of her as outdated for the modern times. It’ll be have to be up to Nasu’s writing to save the character and have her resemble the old Ciel even a little.

>>33962086
Because her original design was absolute garbage, as was her personality so hopefully that changes too.

>>33962388
>>33962134
>>33962086
An attempt at melding the 2 designs together.

>overboard
>change her so completely
>doesn't look like ciel at all
What?
I am not exactly fond of the remake designs either, but outside of maybe like, the maids. Ciel's redesign is the one that changed the least.
What's this about Ciel looking entirely different or Ciel not even looking like Ciel?

I get you don't like the change and you've got my sympathy for that. But it really does look like Ciel got one of the most faithful redesigns.
Pour a bucket of water over their heads and you probably wouldn't even be able to tell them apart.

>>33962532
Her forehead shouldn't actually be that tall since her head is curved and all.

>>33962538
>What's this about Ciel looking entirely different or Ciel not even looking like Ciel?
Point me at one spot where the new Ciel looks like old Ciel, other than color.

>>33962603
Savage.

>>33962632
She just grew her hair out a bit and got rid of the ugly part in the middle. You people are such drama queens I swear.

>>33962553
Is this better?

The guy complaining is just a secondary who doesn't realise her remake design is actually closer to her original design.

>>33962693
>remake design is actually closer to her original design
Anon, that's not good. That means they're using a design that they originally thought was BAD or wouldn't work in the original for the remake. So they question then is why are they using a design they toss out originally in the remake?

I understand cielfags not being enthused about the mashu look, but were you really that attached to the ugly haircut and the dorky glasses? Seems like an overall wash to me.

>>33962632
The length of her bangs.
The length of the hair on the sides.
The length of her hair in the back.
Like everything about her hair aside from her bangs not being parted.
The skirt of the school uniform is different, but aside from that and the ribbon it's the same.
Finally the new Melty Blood promo stuff does reveal that she has got some new collar thing going on for her church clothes, but you can't even tell from the back so it doesn't even show in the animated video by Ufotable because she looks the same as ever from the back. She has a new cross around her necklace too though.

Maybe they'll do some big redesign to Ciel when she goes all out as an executor, but that remains to be seen.
Ovrerall. She really does look a lot like she used to. In all variants of her that we have seen so far.

>>33962682
Yes.

>>33962682
Maybe.

>>33962682
No.

I unironically like Ciel and i'd bang her

>>33962937
>tattoos
ewww

>>33962825
Her bangs are not as pronounced with the new haircut. Her hair in the back was much shorter, and that gave her a more tomboyish look. It was also very ruffled, and now it's far too sleek. Her side profile ends up suffering a lot.
This >>33949801 is closer to a proper design, although it's still not quite there.

>>33962768
yes? I really liked the old design, I didn't think her short hair was ugly at all and dorky glasses were really cute.

watch the tsukihime anime

>>33962967
You are autistic.

>>33962978
Why all of them look so old? Akiha in special looks on her 30s

>>33962997
Ciel is 200+ years old
Arcueid is 800+ years old
Akiha is like 1500 years old
Hisui and Kohaku are so old they existed before time

>>33962978
I actually have, and it's really bad.

>>33962825
Holy shit, the perfect edit. Just change the glasses and its good.

>>33962967
>Her hair in the back was much shorter, and that gave her a more tomboyish look.
She always had necklong hair in the back. Of the same length as her new design. You just didn't see it very often from most of the angles of the old art.

>>33963058
Hisui and Kohaku are actually Izanagi and Izanami. And if you're asking me why Izanagi is a woman you're clearly in the wrong thread.

>>33963135
No, it was always short. Not a buzzcut, but not flowing hair either.

>>33962974
I guess people different tastes and all. To be fair, that kind of hairstyle was probably not uncommon in that time period. Short hair styles changed after that so Takeuchi just "went with the times" probably.

>>33963154
You just posted yet another picture of her hair going down to the centre of her neck. Which is the case with the new design too.
I don't even.

>>33963233
Anon, her hair there is like 3 cm long, at most. Her new haircut is at least three times that length.

>>33963233
>>33963267
It's just layers. The original Ciel has a more boyish haircut especially in the back. So the hair at the top of her head is cut shorter and it doesn't hang all the way down at the bottom (like how guys get their hair cut usually). The redesign has a more typical girl's hair cut where all the hair is grown out to about neck-ish length so it appears to "hang down" from the top as well.

Even wearing a long skirt Akiha manages to show off her sexy legs.

>>33963378
Wait is that a laptop? Is Akiha not technologically retarded anymore?

Some of the changes I just don't understand the reasoning for. Where is the red in Akiha's design? You know, her signature colour? At least she still looks like herself (Rinface nonwithstanding), and cute, but was it so hard for Takeuchi to remember why he originally designed those characters the way he did? At this rate I can imagine an FSN remake in 10 more years with dumb shit like Saber's and Archer's colour schemes no longer matching their respective Masters' for no reason, or Sakura just looking like BB.

>>33963411
I bet Kohaku operates it for her, also embezzles money at the same time.

>>33963450
Takeuchi said that he had a hard time deciding to go with red or black for Akiha but ended up picking black at the end. He didn't really give a concrete reason why.

>>33963450
>Rinface nonwithstanding
It's okay in her case because she was the template for Rin in the first place.

why did Ciel survive unlike everyone else Roa possessed?

>>33963475
>He didn't really give a concrete reason why.
Isn't he a Homura-fag?
Well. If he was that could very well be it.

>>33963581
>>33963475
I can imagine the reason being pants-on-head retarded, like "oh if she wears red she's just gonna look like that Persona chick"

Currently playing Tsukihime without looking at the flow chart.
Good idea or just a waste of time?

>>33963609
Good idea. It's not like this is KT where you'll be locked out of some scene.

>>33963609
Depends how much patience you have. Just be sure to 100% it because the bad ends are a lot of fun.

>>33963475
>What about Akiha?

>Takeuchi: That's right. Looking back, we thought that Akiha's original red skirt wouldn't blend too well with the backgrounds, but it was iconic enough to make us hesitate on the change. Ultimately, I had to trust my instincts telling me this was better.

Still doesn't make sense.

Can someone rip MB Akiha and Ciel from their site? I can't find them with inspector.

>>33963686
>we thought that Akiha's original red skirt wouldn't blend too well with the backgrounds
That's it, Tohsaka and Archer wearing all-black in the Fate remake confirmed. You can't wear red, it doesn't blend too well with the backgrounds. Now that I think of it, Arc's purple skirt was also dangerously close to red. It all makes sense.

>>33963686
That's just a fanfic translation. The original interview doesn't say anything about backgrounds.

>>33963713

>>33963359
>So the hair at the top of her head is cut shorter and it doesn't hang all the way down at the bottom (like how guys get their hair cut usually). The redesign has a more typical girl's hair cut where all the hair is grown out to about neck-ish length so it appears to "hang down" from the top as well.
I suppose that's indeed the case. The hair closer to the bottom of her head is indeed the same length as ever though.

>>33963609
You don't need to use the flowchart on your first playthrough. It'll come in handy when you will plan other routes since getting to some of them (Ciel's route in particular) can be pretty damn obtuse. It's different from FSN, where each route was a completely different entity.
Although Tsukihime is by no means a difficult game. Just don't be an ass to the girl you like and you'll get there eventually, maybe stumbling a few times along the way. By the way, Akiha and Hisui/Kohaku routes are locked at first, you need to clear the game once to unlock the choices that lead you to them.
>>33963655
It's unfortunate that Tsukihime didn't have the Tiger Stamp mechanic like FSN, to keep track of your completion.

>>33963795

>>33963795
>>33963713
>takeuchi hand syndrome
Oh no no no no

>>33963819
he cant help himself

>>33963686
>>33963724
Yeah whoever translated that misunderstood 配色. Takeuchi just said that the original color scheme was a little gaudy but at the same time the red skirt fit Akiha's image very well. In the end, he felt black was better and went with that.

>>33963877
That makes it even worse since he acknowledges that it fit her well but he can't help himself from changing it anyway.

>>33963577
The anon you replied to's translation is okay apart from the 'fitting her image very well' bit, he just made that up. The original translation of it being 'iconic enough to make us hesitate' is closer to what's actually written.

>>33963975
>The original translation of it being 'iconic enough to make us hesitate' is closer to what's actually written.
Yeah that's a better way to phrase it. Sue me. I'm a bad translator too.

Now that I think of it, what does "Type Lumina" imply? It can't be just random word salad like ACTress Again or Act Cadenza, it must be referring to an actual Type. "Type Light"? It can't be the Ultimate Lifeform of the Sun since the Sun doesn't support life even in Nasuverse. Maybe it's more like "Type Star", someone coming from somewhere outside the Solar Sys-oh no. Oh no no no.

In light of all this mess over an incredibly simple sentence, imagine just how godawful the translations are of Nasu's prose.

>>33964042
See? All translations being bad isn't just a meme.

I find it supremely poetic that, after raping Arcueid in the first route, Shiki is the one getting raped in the second route.
Also, Arc's porn scenes were actually pretty well-written, but this time, shit gets pretty silly. I don't think we needed to hear about his masturbation philosophy or feats of linguistic acrobatics such as this.
Still, fun time for the whole family.

>>33964057
First read? Just wait until the all-time favourite "supression" scene.

>>33964057
>Shiki is the one getting raped in the second route.
what? explain further? which route is that?

>>33963135
So is Ciel's tattoo covered here and it only manifests when she's in battle mode?

>>33964079
Yes. Despite being familiar with TM since 2009, I never actually read Tsukihime, so now that remake is actually on its way, I decided to fix that so I could participate in the discussion at least in some form.
>>33964080
Ciel's route, the bondage blowjob dream scene.

>>33964123
it's paint bro

>>33964123
It's not a tattoo. She just paints stuff on.

>>33963713
>>33963795
>>33963813
Why do they look so much better in Melty?

>>33964151
You think so? Well Ciel's design is better in MB. Maybe that'll carry over to Tsuki R when we see her in battle mode too. The fucked up Takeuchi hands ruin it for me though. So far, the hands look normal in all of the Tsuki R sprites we've seen (please don't fuck this one up Takeuchi).

>>33952160
Why isn't hollow more discussed?

>>33964151
The coloring.

>>33964172
Well the remake maids' designs are straight out of MB character art already

I don't see why you people have so many issues with Takeuchi's hands. He just doesn't like drawing them still, so he does those little gestures instead. It's not like he's bad at it or anything.

>>33964229
hello takeuchi

>>33964229
I'm trying to find that picture but a common theme with his FGO sprites is for them to have deformed hands.

>>33964229
There we go. This shit on the bottom right needs to stop.

Anyone picked up on this MEDP reference in Mushoku Tensei?

>>33964267
I get that hands are always repeating, but I'm not sure how they are deformed. I'm not the best when it comes to hand anatomy, but this >>33963713 hand on the right is the only one that I would call kind of broken since you wouldn't be able to keep your middle and distal phalanx straight like that when bending the proximal interphalangeal joint. Your fingers would always naturally take the clawing position.
>>33964335
Again, none of those are anatomically incorrect. They're repetitive, sure, but not fucked up.

>>33964378
I can't bend my fingers like that without putting an enormous amount of stress on my hands and hiding the thumb from plain sight is really difficult. I can't even duplicate quite right either. It's really unnatural and weird.

>>33964343

>>33964427
As I said, that one really is broken, human fingers don't work like that.

>>33964506
They're all broken for me except like the two that have less extreme finger bending.

>>33964525
Eh, it's in the margin of error most of the time, especially for a VN artist. I've seen some truly fucked shit in this genre, thanks to how much of it is done by amateurs on a tight schedule.
Takeuchi is not a bad artist. Far from it, he can draw some truly cool character art, he's definitely one of the greats in the industry. His issues stem from his desire to always draw appealing things. He thinks that Arc's granny skirt was unappealing, so that had to go. He thought that Ciel's "I'm my own barber" haircut was unappealing, so that had to go. On one hand, this is a good mindset - beauty comes first when it comes to art, and when you think otherwise, your laziness will always end up taking over. But balance is important, and some uniqueness is necessary to make characters memorable. That uniqueness is what Takeuchi has been missing.

Give me big round thick-rimmed dorky glasses or give me death.

>>33964705
How much of that art was actually drawn by Takeuchi and not unpaid interns?

>>33964705
i disagree, for something to have soul it doesn't need to be beautiful, art is not about subjective beauty but rather about invoking a feeling on the observer/reader.
Beauty is the most surface level that an artist can reach for

>>33964705
>He thought that Ciel's "I'm my own barber" haircut was unappealing
It is though

>>33964705
>But balance is important, and some uniqueness is necessary to make characters memorable. That uniqueness is what Takeuchi has been missing.
You make a great point here. I don't care if he wants to be lazy with his gachashit characters he has to churn out every quarter but to draw major characters so lazily in a major TM work in a way it's hard to distinguish them from gacha is disappointing.

>>33964705
Yeah Takeuchi is good when he tries. You can tell he phones it in a lot with FGO. It's also true that you can do much worse in this genre (see Key's early art for example).

>>33964799
I have no clue, but he's definitely doing the linework. Painting is an interesting question though, I wonder how much things changed since "the old days".
>>33964873
That train of thought is what gave us degenerate shit that Tumblr was making, or "modern art" in general. Art must be beautiful. If art is not beautiful, it's meaningless. It can make you happy, sad, or even disgusted, but it must be done as skillfully as one can. If your art requires no skill, then anyone can replicate it, and if anyone can do that, then what's the point of it? We had instances of pranksters putting literal trash in modern art exhibits for a laugh, and critics falling for it because they didn't know any better. That's not art, that's just people being pretentious for their own sake.

>>33964953
>Art must be beautiful
Art must be beautiful. The people depicted in it not necessarily. Most of the people depicted on portraits drawn by Dutch Masters are anything but beautiful. That being said, the real point is visual novel heroines don't have to look like lowest common denominator generic gacha fodder to be considered "beautiful".

>playing Ciel's route
>at evening teatime, Kohaku brings up the new victim after you kill Nrvnqsr
>Shiki thinks Arc might be responsible, goes to his room
>I'm thinking - okay, we might meet her tomorrow and ask, no rush, or maybe Ciel has something to say about it
>this idiot suddenly jumps out of the window and rushes to Arc like she's about to give birth
>I realize that I'm thrown back into Arc's route for no reason, even though I was balls deep in Ciel's route
Tsukihime was very tight so far, but this is pretty lazy. They really couldn't even edit the monologue here? How is he suddenly in love with Arc when he's been drinking Ciel's tea with the enthusiasm of a K-ON club member?
Oh well.

>>33965107
Maybe your Arc points were too high. I don't really remember.

>>33964953
>If art is not beautiful, it's meaningless
And who is going to decide if it is beautiful or not? you?

Are you going to determine beauty by consensus? maybe a democratic vote on what is beauty is what you want?

So i guess that if the majority of normalfags on this planet thinks that if VNs are not beautiful they are meaningless

What about music? because i personally do not find it beautiful does it mean it's not art? that it doesn't have anything to say?

The idea that art has to be beautiful to have meaning is honestly childish, beyond the question of how you are going to measure it as objectively beautiful when you are a flawed man, you would also need to figure out how to make everyone else agree with whatever metric you come up with, which is basically impossible

>If your art requires no skill, then anyone can replicate it, and if anyone can do that, then what's the point of it?
Yes, anyone can replicate art, artists are not special snowflakes, that's why there are fakes and replicas of almost anything you can think of, sometimes even of superior quality to the original.

>>33965107
Stop neglecting Ciel.

>>33965155
I know what I'm doing, I even deliberately denied Arc at some points to make sure. Her route intertwines with Ciel's, so I think that's why this happened.
>>33965191
I'm not sure how I can be even more attentive towards her. I choose her at pretty much every opportunity.

>>33962978
It’s funny in English dubbed

>>33964123
“Don’t think too hard about it”, don’t ask why her skin glowed either

>>33965209
Maybe a dumb question but did you go to her room after you killed Arc?

>>33965181
>And who is going to decide if it is beautiful or not? you?
Society decides. For example, society doesn't really like modern art - the only people interested in it are high-brow intellectuals who might or might not be laundering money through banana exhibits. I believe that people have ideas about beauty on a subconscious level. Healthy people are beautiful, nature is beautiful, clear sky is beautiful. Our ideas about beauty might evolve slightly over time, but they always reflect the same general concepts. Naturally, beauty is not objective. But most of us have a pretty good idea of what it looks like.
>What about music? because i personally do not find it beautiful does it mean it's not art? that it doesn't have anything to say?
For me, it's the question of skill. I don't like death metal, for example, but I can admire how much skill it takes to do properly.

>>33965286
Yes, I did. I'm pretty sure that's the trigger that sends you to Ciel's route.

>>33965304
>he doesn't jam hard to old school 90s death metal all day
Come on son

>>33965107
Shiki always ends up in love with Arc if he meets her. That's why she was written out of meeting with him in the far-side.

Art is both part objective and part subjective. The objective part of art mostly has to do with the technical side of this. Was this drawn well? Is the coloring done correctly? etc. That's why garbage like shit in a can isn't art but just pseudo-intellectuals wanking off to each other. If you can't get the technical basics down, you will never be a good artist. The more subjective side has to do with the emotion it invokes in the observer. Does the art achieve the desired purpose? Do people obtain the correct message from it? That thing is harder to judge since it varies person to person but we're all human so there's certain rules we are pretty much hardwired to obey (e.g. warm/bright colors = happy; dark colors = sad).

>>33965322
Then you're still in Ciel's route.

>>33965474
That's pretty nice for me since I certainly love Arc more than Ciel, but it does feel as if Ciel's route is more of a "what-if" bonus instead of its own thing. As far as I understand, Far-side routes are going to be more like FSN routes (forking from the start and going into a completely different direction), so that should be interesting.

>>33965304
>Society decides
Who is society?
Is it the wealthy?
Is it the Elites?
Is it the leaders?
Is it the party?
Is it the people?
Is it all of them?

And if you determine that it is everyone that participates in the "group" we call society and their opinion are all equally valuable do you think niche arts such as visual novels would still exist? There is a reason why VNs as a medium has remained a niche

Think about pic related, is it beautiful? I think it is beautiful, but what if we showed this image to a normalfag, what would they say? Probably it isn't
But what if instead of pic related i posted an image of a half naked, sexually attractive and reproductive aged 3D female?
The average normalfag will probably say it's beautiful.

>I believe that people have ideas about beauty on a subconscious level. Healthy people are beautiful, nature is beautiful, clear sky is beautiful.
I agree, but there is also something more that can be said, of all the examples you provided all of them come from nature, the sky, the human body, nature itself. Human art does not come from nature, it may seek to imitate nature, but it comes from humanity and therefore, it comes from outside of nature. (unless you determine that humanity is a part of nature and therefore it too can be considered to be nothing but a natural process taking place with a begging and an end, and therefore not outside of nature, but rather another element to it)

What we "naturally" find beautiful is yet another medium by which the unconscious manipulates us into obeying it's will and primary directive of evolutionary survival, perhaps this is the reason why beauty is not objective, precisely because it is not rational, and instead of emerging from universally definable and agreeable characteristics, it emerges from the pit of the unconscious, which has it's own goals to achieve, and has learnt to prioritize certain elements over others

If we go by the metric of what society finds beautiful then we would conclude that Harry Potter is a beautiful work of art, or that the latest nigger music is a beautiful work of art. Society doesn't know shit, which is why we should keep beauty as a subjective term always, otherwise the normies might start getting uppity and decide to censor what we find beautiful.

>>33956978
You'll get what you get and like it you whiny faggot. If you literally went and did SOMETHING with your life for over a fucking decade it would have gone by in a flash, and it's like you're assuming this is the only thing they were working on for some reason.

I think the faces look bad and Arc's new design is kinda shit but that's really it. I can't understand how complainers will look at a possible doubled length per route with the new graphics and music AND a second or even third part obviously on the way and be like "whatta fuck man why so short".

>>33965717
Even if the remake ends up actually being completely fucking shit, at least I'll get to hear this dude's 90 track OST (well sure other people wrote tracks but he's lead). I can't even be that mad. The dude is a beast.

>>33965764
Exactly.

>>33962974
I wholeheartedly agree.
I just want her back

>>33965684
>There is a reason why VNs as a medium has remained a niche
The reason why VNs are niche is not artstyle, it's their own past. The West never had the same VN boom of the early 90s that Japan did, our industry was always too preoccupied with action games to see potential in point-and-click adventures that VNs evolved from. It's also the reason why Japan doesn't play FPS games.
>Think about pic related, is it beautiful? I think it is beautiful, but what if we showed this image to a normalfag, what would they say? Probably it isn't
This is the style that was first pioneered by Walt Disney. I'm sure you know this story. So even normies enjoy it, just look at how popular Disney princesses still are.
>If we go by the metric of what society finds beautiful then we would conclude that Harry Potter is a beautiful work of art, or that the latest nigger music is a beautiful work of art. Society doesn't know shit, which is why we should keep beauty as a subjective term always, otherwise the normies might start getting uppity and decide to censor what we find beautiful.
You're arguing for gatekeeping, with which I agree. Still, I like demanding beauty from artists for one main reason - I know what happens when someone decides that they're too good for conventions and develops a """"style"""" that looks ugly and lazy 99% of the time. I guess we don't need to define beauty as something objective that would make everyone happy (because no one would be happy), but I would still say that art should be made with as much effort as one can muster. I hate when people cover their laziness with their vague ideas about art.

>>33966062
>The West never had the same VN boom of the early 90s that Japan did, our industry was always too preoccupied with action games to see potential in point-and-click adventures that VNs evolved from
Dunno about Europe, but Americans, as a whole, unironically don't have the attention span for VNs. Hence why other styles of games became popular here.

>>33965717
>new graphics
Run-of-the-mill galge get animated sprites these days, what am I supposed to be impressed by, the 1-minute opening they'll hire ufotable to make?

>>33966197
different anon than the one you replied to, i am from south America and it's the same thing down here

>>33966301
Hello EOP. This is how I know you haven't read Mahoyo. Even that part with the kuchisake guys jobbing to Alice was fucking amazing.

>45 hours
I sincerely doubt it. Nasu said 45 hours if you listen to all voices, but he also said Arc and Ciels new routes are about twice as long as their old ones, and double the length of their old routes is significantly below 45 hours.

>>33966661
>he also said Arc and Ciels new routes are about twice as long as their old ones
Source?

>>33966661
Seems about right to me. If both Arc and Ciel are 15 hours in the original, then double the text is around 30. Then multiple some random factor (like 1.5 or something) to account for voice acting. Checks out.

What was the conclusion to Shiki's inner conflict?

>>33966773
>By the way, how long will be this game?

>Takeuchi: In terms of pure text volume, I'd say it's about twice what the doujin version had. If you playing listening to all voices until the end, it should be about 45 hours.

If you buy this remake you're a cuck

April Fools coming soon, but I think they've gotten tired of it.

>>33967309
>looking like better heroines
I'd say it's a win

*teleports behind u and burns ur soul*

Heh, Attendre, Espérer, kid.

>>33967341
There's no point in putting in any effort when you can just dish out the same FGO shit every year. That said I have at least some hope for something Tsukihime related this year.

>>33966197
Let's have a little history lesson because I have nothing better to do.
We all started on the same page. Of course computer gaming was more popular in Europe, but everyone was playing games like The Secret of Monkey Island, Leisure Suit Larry, and Sierra's Quest series. Those kinds of games were perfect for slower PCs of the time. In Japan, they had a similar surge, with tons and tons of detective adventure games, a trend that was started by Yuji Horii's Portopia Serial Murder Case.
The split happened in the 90s. In the West, people like John Carmack, thanks to hardware finally being completely unified under the IBM banner, took PC gaming in the direction of cutting-edge action games with titles like Wing Commander and DOOM.
In Japan, however, things were different. They had a gigantic explosion of adult adventure games in the 80s (practically everyone was making them by the dozen) because the censorship didn't catch up yet. Those played exactly like any adventure game of the time would, but instead of corpses, you get tits (and sometimes also corpses). These games became more and more shameless and perverted, until one day, censorship did finally catch up. In 1991, Japan had its own Mortal Kombat incident - the government took notice of FairyTale's "Saori: the House of Beautiful Girls" after some high schooler stole it from some store. The game was a glorified picture set with nothing but uncensored rape and incest (real incest, not the modern "we're not actually blood relatives" incest). It was a huge mess, the president of FairyTale was arrested for possession and resale of obscene materials, and the whole thing was dubbed the "Saori incident".
So the predecessor to CERO was created, and all of these companies had to get creative and hide the porn behind something, with story being the most obvious choice. That's how Elf's Doukyuusei happened, which can be called the first modern date sim. In the same year, Chunsoft created Otogirisou, which they dubbed the "sound novel" (this was later trademarked by Chunsoft). The idea was simple - unlike adventure games, sound novels would put all emphasis on the story, sound, and visuals, with no gameplay other than clicking through text, for full immersion. One particular feature of those games was text being all over the screen, and not just in a small textbox. This was a very successful idea. But "sound novel" was trademarked, so some other term had to be invented, and that's when Leaf stepped in, with their "Leaf Visual Novel Series", which became a smashing success (To Heart was one of the games in this series). That's how this genre was created. And to this day, some Japanese players distinguish between sound novels (games like Tsukihime, FSN, Mahoyo, Higurashi, etc.) and visual novels.
So I don't think we were too stupid for visual novels. We were just obsessed with guns, while the Japanese were obsessed with tits.

>>33963975
>the anon you replied to
but I didn't reply to anyone

I hope we get a good remix of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnje9l8sMME

>>33960625
>Mahoyo is a 20 hour release
and it's STILL not in fucking english

>>33965717
Mahoyo's second and third part were "on the way" too and look where we are.

>>33967469
Woops I meant to reply to >>33963905
As for your question, I think it's something like when she was killed for the first time and Roa left her, by some random error, the world continued to recognise her as 'Roa' and not Ciel. Because the dead apostle Roa was still 'alive', the world refused to let Ciel die, who it still saw as Roa. After Roa's killed for good, Ciel loses her immortality.
I can't remember if the reason for this error was ever explained.

>>33967380
>we were jobbing to FGO before the remake
ohnonononono we got too cocky please forgive us FGOchad we kneeeeeeeeeeel!

>>33967561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=libw4NyO4LY
Look no further.

>>33967411
Actually I did not know about the Saori incident thing. Neato, that's before my eroge knowledge.

>So I don't think we were too stupid for visual novels.
I still do though. The peak of reading in the US was literally Harry Potter and that was a stroke of luck via immense peer pressure. I couldn't imagine a seriously large VN subculture forming here naturally at any point in time.

>>33967686
>by some random error, the world continued to recognise her as 'Roa' and not Ciel.
Ciel says something about a vampire's body and soul being "tainted" permanently. She's still legitimately part of Roa, it's not random.
Ciel apparently had high magical potential, or something. Apparently it was an unexpected result of that.

I really can't be excited for the longer route because what even are they going to add? It's either going to be padding or shit that will ruin the story.

>Roa/SHIKI finds Solomon's McMuffin that could destroy the world
>Shiki stops him
>Marsberry picks it up and wins his HGW
calling it

>>33967617
its gonna take fucking forever if the remake is going to be translated

>>3395
I LOVE THIS IRONY

>>33954772

Her role is obviously to have a only sex scene with Sacchin.

>>33956978

I can see why and wished it WAS near side and far side together but think of it like this way.

For me there are two ways of seeing it, either they're taking too long because the sheer amount of work that needs to be done (if we think that Tsukihime R might have Mahouyo-like effects and it's going to be six routes long), that's the optimistic way.

>>33962086

A part of me hopes there's a spite animation for ciel in the game where she just flips her hair and you see her classic forehead.

People here just understimates the sheer work high definition 2D needs. It's more difficult than making a 3D game that can counts on more and better tools & middlewares. An example for another genre is Cuphead that took forever to release and so its expansion. Or they could have taken the Ryukishi pill, stay with the same shit art with at least one decent colourist with photoshopped backgrounds and zero directing but I prefer this way.
Also since 2008 Mahoyo happened, the time it took to release was unexpected since it originally was a low budget project.
Of course they're partly at fault becuase Nasu admitted the project was once stopped but this things could happen with a small team and at least we will have a better resolution compared to Mahoyo's 576p.

>>33960625
>>33967617
I finished Mahoyo some days ago, and I think the reason it still isn't translated in English is that people approached it with the mindset "it's only a short novel".
It surprised me it's actually not, I think it could even reach 30+ hours if you try to read everything

>>33972363
>and it's going to be six routes long
It won't be, unless Sacchin's route is included in this and they're keeping it secret. Satsuki is definitely Near Side content and it would've made sense content-wise (3 routes in one, 3 routes in the other), they're not gonna make part 1 with 2 routes and part 2 with 4.

>>33972977
>People here just understimates the sheer work high definition 2D needs
Nope. All (and I mean all) professional artists nowadays work in resolutions that excel 4K, because it's easier to draw without thinking about pixels and shit. Then they downscale the end results to whatever's necessary. To give you an idea - here an image from Fate/Extella's press kit, Liz's full body sprite in full resolution. This kind of stuff rarely gets to normal users, but as you can see, if Marvelous wanted to make a proper 4K version of Extella - they absolutely could.
So Takeuchi could easily make a 4K game, but he won't because Japanese developers like Type-Moon are still stuck in 2010 for some reason.

>>33973258
brilliant post

>>33973258
Yeah but you have to fill the screen and then draw everything for a "camera" work. There's little you can reuse to optimize development. See also why the majority of 2D games nowaday are 16bit pixel arts shit or 2.5D

>>33973060
>if you try to read everything
Why the fuck wouldn't you read everything? Anyways, I agree that the usual 20 hour estimation seems to short. If you read really fast in Japanese, I suppose you could finish everything in 20 hours. 25+ seems more realistic to me though.

>>33973258
>that chest
fuck wada my dick

>>33974939
Extra chapters (one with choises & multiple scenes based on those)

>>33975416
Yeah that one was fun. Imagine skipping Kuma's ploy adventure.

>>33975514
I appreciated that because I wanted to see more ploys, they are very refreshing to see.
Wonder if we'll ever see the last of the great three.
Towards the end that chapter felt very Gyakuten Saiban, they did a good job

>>33975613
She does use Wander Snatch in that scene in the subway. It's very brief though.

>>33975661
Yeah I remember but they didn't really put effort in that.
Such a shame Snark is lost forever tho

>>33975911
Snark should have checked his ego and accepted the L.

>>33976033
Aoko's attitude to destroy things is just too strong.

Where could I get non-terrible Tsukihime manga scans?

>>33976158
link in the OP

Anyway when's Heaven's Feel 3 Blu Ray out? 31st Japan right?

>>33976664
He said non-terrible.

>>33974939
20 hours isn't a short estimate.

>>33978075
A bunch of speedread liars.

>>33977489
Yes
Tomorrow (March 30) will have a TM Games stream with Kohaku and Hisui VAs by the way

I don't suppose a recording of the Tsuki no Sango stream has been saved anywhere?

>TsukiR is twice as long as the original
Calling it now - Shiki won't tell anyone to "keep it short" now, and so the full power of Nasu's verboseness will be unleashed upon our mortal asses.

>>33978092
have you considered you're just shit at reading

>>33979885
The people in the 21-30 range are reading it correctly. The rest are all speedreaders.

>>33964001
Share it with the class!

>>33979925
I take that as a no.

Do I need the Japanese version of Fate Extra to then patch it?

>>33980117
Reading is not a contest of speed. It takes extra time to appreciate the rhetorical devices, imagery, etc. used in great literary writing such as Mahoyo.

>>33980193
You can't just call the majority of native readers speedreaders because you're slower than all of them. Sounds to me like you're coping pretty fucking hard

>>33979925
I have completed Mahoyo in 120 hours in Japanese, seems like I'm the most sophisticated enjoyer of Nasu's writing.

>>33980260
It's a pathetic sample size.

>>33980320
Good man.

>>33973060
There's also the fact that Part 2 and 3 will probably never come out so there's not too many people clamoring for 1/3 of a story to be translated.

It's easy to recognise when people haven't read Mahoyo because they always describe it as being unfinished.

>>33975911
Snark was so fucking cool

EGS is full of skim readers. This guy wrote a glowing review of FSN and claims it took him 32 hours to finish.

>>33980492
All fiction is unfinished

>>33980580
This one is really bad the more you think about it. It means he had to have turned off all voices. Imagine not wanting to hear fucking Nakata in one of his best roles ever.

>>33960284
I don't know about the Japanese version, but I remember for certain that the English version took exactly 3 days of in-game time to 100%.

>>33967411
>distinguish between sound novels (games like Tsukihime, FSN, Mahoyo, Higurashi, etc.) and visual novels
But Tsukihime and FSN are literally called ビジュアルノベル.

>>33982161
Well I'm not sure about FSN, but I'm fairly certain Tsukihime used the term サウンドノベル upon its release. It's kind of an old term though. Not sure when it went out of style exactly. Hell alot of this shit is just called "adventure games".

>>33982359
https://www.tsukikan.com/misc/kanwatsukihime/jp/02.html
It's not said very explicitly but Nasu seems to call Tsukihime a visual novel.

>>33982359
>>33982521
Also here it's explicitly called ビジュアルノベル.

>>33982568
Forgot link:
http://www.typemoon.org/box/moon.html

>>33982521
>>33982568
Yeah, it seems pretty vague. Nasu calls Tsukihime a sound novel in this interview.
>元々、伝奇モノは色気のある長文を見せたいという気持ちが強かったので、やるならサウンドノベルがいいと決めていました。その『月姫』が多くの人に受け入れられたので、このままゲームライティングを続けるか、それとも夢だった小説家を目指すか考えたんです。
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201910/05182695.html

I vaguely remember seeing an old advertisement for Tsukihime that also called it a sound novel although I can't find it right now. The reality is probably just that there isn't actually any difference and sound novel is just sometimes used to refer to really old/early games in this genre.

>>33982161
The phrase kind of lost its meaning now, yes. Especially because, as I said, Chunsoft owns it, so people avoid using it for their projects. But Nasu's works are certainly sound novels, and the same applies to Ryukishi07, who was always saying that Higurashi is a sound novel.
Nowadays, it's just something Japanese oldfags use to feel fancy.

>>33982679
>Especially because, as I said, Chunsoft owns it, so people avoid using it for their project
Didn't R07 use it on Higurashi's package?

>>33982717
I guess he paid the royalties or something.

>>33982718
Is that worth licensing? Is it something that even gets licensed?
I would think it just slipped through the cracks and nobody pursued it

>>33982746
Who knows, maybe they reached a deal or something. Here's the trademark, if you're wondering https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/t0201

>>33982835
The link's broken for me.
From what I know about trademarks it really doesn't seem worth it.

>>33982861
My bad, wrong link https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1800/TR/JP-2013-028573/0830CD1AD6BC9FE6DEFBA0F19AA9094F2C3D38AB10706B3239AF77DF6DD81BA6/40/ja

Why is the Fate fandom so shitty?
>Well FGO-
No, fuck off. That made it worse, but it was still a trashfire before.

>>33982977
The real question is: why are you so shitty?

>>33982977
Secondaries started with Fate/Zero and it never recovered.

>>33983571
This, we need big banner that says "Secondaries fuck off"

>>33982977
You posted the main reason why it is shitty on /a/.

I fucking hate Fate/Zero

>>33982977
>That made it worse
I think you underestimate how much worse have you ever been to /vg/ those retards usually don't even understand the FGO shit they read, and half of them only care about having every pair of tits be for (you).

where's the link to typemoon stream that they will do in 12 hours

>>33949656
The sacchin route got canceled. But instead she gets a magical girl spin-off show.

>>33984581
why?

>>33984868
will Sion and Ries be magical girls too?

>>33984998
maybe?

>>33984868
The only recast that disappointed me. Her voice was on point.

>>33984868
I wonder exactly how much backlash they would get if Sacchin route cancellation is confirmed, because based on the information we got so far, it seems highly likely and I don't see how Type Moon will be able to not address this before release in any shape or form. Backlash could be worst if they keep silent and the fans try everything to trigger it to no avail. But it wouldn't be surprising given how many old fans have left the Type Moon fandom over the years and the fact that Nasu doesn't have to appeal to those people anymore.

>>33985032
But anon we don't even know her new seiyuu yet

>>33985085
And?

>>33985047
Did Nasu ever actually firmly promise a Sacchin route in the remake? I vaguely remember it being talked about as a possibility but I don't know if made a definite statement anywhere.

Sacchin here... Sacchin there...
but nobody is talking about the REAL voice we should care:
That is, Arihiko.

>>33985128
What if the newbie is also on point?

>>33984920
Not him, but Fate/Zero is by far the most overrated piece of Nasuverse. Who knew that a bunch of middle-aged dudes in suits were all that you needed for normies to suddenly take everything you write seriously.

>>33985129
Nope, unless someone can dig out something from an interview ages ago. But doing that would sully his reputation further among older fans.

>>33985149
wonder if nasu's gonna flesh their relationship out more and we get something like pic rel. desu.

>>33985175
Then I'm good, but I will still miss the other voice.

Unpopular opinion but I don't really care about Sacchin. Instead give me Aoko or Noel.

How did Ciel manage to paint wings on her fucking back?

>>33985200
I think normalfags just like Kiritsugu's apparent nihilism.

>>33985343
>Kiritsugu's apparent nihilism
Kerry is an idealist, just a very violent one.

>>33985519
>utilitarianism
For some reason Urobuchi often includes utilitarianism in his stories. I mean look at Kyuubey from Madoka or the system for psycho pass. Although being utilutarian was a character trait of Kiri since Heave 's Feel. Mind of Steel Shirou is basically utilitarian Shirou.

>>33985603
>For some reason
Because he's a hack. Jokes's aside. He's hit or miss for me. It just depends. Saya no Uta is still his peak btw.

>>33985622
Nah, he's definitely somewhat of a hack. Fate/Zero, Madoka, Kamen Rider Gaim - all of those shows were retelling the same goddamn story with different coats of paint. He repeats himself more than he should be comfortable with.

>>33985717
>He repeats himself more than he should be comfortable with.
No wonder he's friends with Nasu they have so much in common

>>33985309
Aoko isn't route material unless it is a buddy adventure or something.
Which doesn't really fit in Tsuki.

>>33985764
In fact, I kinda wish there was a common route.

>>33985717
Wait Urobuchi has written a Kamen Rider show?

>>33982977
It's attracts autists for some reason. I don't bother with any fate threads these days because of how shitty of a turn takes two posters in.
>>33985129
It's been hinted at here and there. I'm confident it's going to be in there. Nasu or TM in general just likes to keep thing tightlipped until they drops it as a surprise.

>>33985801
Yes, he was the head writer on Gaim, several of his buddies from nitro+ were involved too. And boy does it show.

i really wish Tsuki had more doujins

God fucking damn it, these bastards are cutting me deep. I'm going through Ciel's route because that's how you play these games, but I didn't expect Arcueid to guilt trip me so much about it.
Fuck this, seriously.

Does melty blood community edition give false positives on virus scans?

>>33986067
Run it through VirusTotal, the whole thing is like a hundred megs.

>>33986020
we'll get more eventually with the inevitable tsukihime anime or fgo collab

>>33986073
nevermind, it is the update
Melty blood Collection\4 MELTY BLOOD Actress Again Current Code Ver 1.07\cccaster\updater.exe
Apparently it's getting flagged as a false positive because it auto updates

>>33961228
Quite like the new nose, but this exists for reference.

>>33986059
>feeling bad for a rapist

>>33986438
Considering what stuff I've done in this game before, I'm in no position to call her a rapist.

Do we have any scans for the Fate Extra CCC comic anthology?

I've been thinking, remake its just Ciel and Arcueid route, do you guys thing that there's going to be another version with the far side routes? Or maybe they could just make them as DLC, I can see them trying something like that.
Man, its still sad that sacchin doesn't have a route after all these years of wait.

>>33987674
Nah, it's Japan. Of there will be another physical release (assuming it happens). Well, I guess there will be another "download edition" as well so maybe that counts as "DLC" in a way.

Did anyone record the tsuki no sango reading?

>>33964763
Amen

>>33977489
Out now
https://twitter.com/animatematumoto/status/1376753031560110080?s=19

With it being set in the 2010s will Akiha just call Shiki on his phone when he's out at night

>>33988829
no, she's a boomer

>>33949656
tfw tsukiremake was announced such a long time ago that you've realized that nasu is a hack in the meantime