/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa
>Love's Sweet Garnish 2 - March 15th release
>9-nine- Episode 4 - March 19th release
The Seventh Sign -Mr. Sister- - "Planning release", appears to have been rejected by Steam
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - "More programming", UI interface nearly complete
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Fully localized, in engine work
>Re;Lord Volume 2 - "Planning release."
Harumade Kururu - Awaiting engine work
Rewrite+ - Overall 55% translated and 44% edited, Q2 release planned
Love Duction - 100% translated and edited, engine work in progress, entering QA soon
Hoshizora no Memoria (retranslation) - In QA, going to update existing release to HD version
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 60% translated
>Island Diary - In QA
Miko no Kanata - 100% translated and edited, awaiting engine work
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next, in "icebox"
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - 50% translated
Sumire - Picked up
Sanarara R - 100% translated, 25% edited
Amatsutsumi - "Waiting on build"
Kanojo no Seiiki - Picked up
Glass - Picked up
New Glass - Picked up
Kimagure Temptation - 100% translated
Karakara 3 - In Development
Sex Friend Osananajimi - 100% translated, 50% edited
Secret Project 7 - 100% translated and edited

Sol Press/Panty Press
Happiness! 2 Sakura Celebration - 100% translated and edited, in QA
Shitsuji ga Aruji o Erabu Toki - "Currently restaffing"
Nukitashi - 100% translated, 90% edited
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - "Currently restaffing"
Irotoridori no Sekai - 100% translated and edited, waiting on QA build
Witch's Garden - "Acquiring staff"
Hyper->Highspeed->Genius - "Acquiring staff"

Nekonyan
>Kinkoi: Golden Loveriche - Kickstarter started, May release, demo released
>Kin'iro Loveriche -Golden Time- - Kickstarter Stretch Goal
Hello Lady - Main game 100% translated, edited, and TLC, 50% QC, engine work being done by developer
Dracu Riot - 100% translated, TLC, and edited, engine porting starting shortly
Clover Days - 100% translated and TLC, 90% edited, engine porting started
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Melty Moment - 50% translated and TLC
Making＊Lovers: Geki Icha After Story - "we plan to translate the Fandisc as well"
Secret Project #1 - 67% translated and 67% TLC, 30% edited
Secret Project #2 - 35% translated and 35% TLC
Secret Project #3 - 100% translated, TLC, and edited

Fakku
Abaddon: Princess of the Decay - Demo out, Winter release
Perverse Incentives - Upcoming release

Visual Arts/Key
Angel Beats 1st Beat - 50% translated

LoveLab
The Humbling of a Holy Maiden - 100% translated, 50% through programming
Chinkamo Twins! - 100% translated and edited

Aksys
Dairoku: Ayakashimori - 2021 release
Variable Barricade - 2021 release
Olympia Soiree - 2021 release


Other
Doukyuusei Remake - Announced
Bustafellows - 2021 release
MAMIYA - A Shared Illusion of the World's End - 2021 release
Jiangshi x Taoshi - Episodes 1-3 released
Evenicle 2 - Demo released, approaching new platforms after being rejected by Steam
Taimanin Asagi - Page for the Trial of episode 1 back on Steam
Venus Blood Hollow - Kickstarted finished, December 2021 release listed
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Below - Spring 2021
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>>33714033
When will Eustia be out? Progress seems to be fast recently. A few weeks or a few months more?

>>33714949
Still going to be months at the current pace. I also heard the translator wants to do a final read through once the TLC is done.

>>33714986
Is it MTL?

>>33714033
>sex with one girl and multiple males
Are these scenes optional? I prefer selfinsertshit. I didn't get an answer in the previous thread.

>>33716406
>Are these scenes optional?
No. It's a game about sluts.

>>33714035
Why does Sekai do the whole release 2 titles at almost the same time thing? Seems like a stupid business decision.

>>33718375
The only real smart business decision Sekai has ever done is figure out how easy it is to get people to back Kickstarters even if you fuck up previous ones.

>>33714033
>Django - Waiting on translation.

Is the translator okay?

>>33718375
Hey at least they're finally releasing something. I don't remember their last release that wasn't Chinkpara or some absolute trash.

>>33718511
I'm still disgusted that the Rewrite+ kickstarter succeeded after all the shit they've done (or still not done). And now they're doing another for Kinkoi. I hope they go bankrupt already.

>>33718375
They're genuinely retarded. Nanarin's release is one of the most incompetent things I've seen any of these companies do, and this is a niche where a title being only a few months late is a pleasant surprise.

>>33718375
It's actually 3.
https://vndb.org/v21436

>>33718764
Is it still this guy?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130118211227/http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Makoto

>>33719305
No one knows what Makoto does anymore except moogy. Like a lot of the old TL scene he's a ghost.

>>33719836
I miss the coco...

>>33719854
Did she really get hit by a truck?

>>33719167
Missed opportunity for a chinko joke.

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/1371284654104309760

>>33721150
Isn't that the Laplacian mascot thing? Maybe JAST got the licence for Mirai Radio after they left Sol Press.

>>33721150
>>33721179
Never mind it's from that one shitty April Fools Day nukige they released.

>>33721150
>>33721179
>>33721312
So Bango did save Laplacian's stuff, but the one title people probably don't care about.

>>33722949
Well it does open the door for more releases.

>>33723909
I'm just a little worried it will be used as a litmus test, end up not doing well, and then failing to lead to their other stuff which I'm interested in.

>>33723981
Maybe, or they will use it as an April Fools joke and announce more titles afterwards.

The uncensored CGs of How to Live are pretty splendid aren't they?
Makes m all the more frustrated at how we're probably never getting the uncensored Grisaia CGs. Those uncensored preview CGs still looked great.

>>33725191
They're okay, but the huge anuses are pretty distracting.

>>33725833
Well at least there's no scat right?

>>33726535
Not that I know of.

>>33721312
How bad is it?

>>33715899
Isn't every FTL nowadays?

>>33719279
Yeah missed that one. So even more retarded.

How did Rance Quest sell?

>>33736202
We'll find out when they post their yearly sales rankings in a year. It's also worth noting that translating Rance Quest likely required a higher investment than most of the shit they put out. But we see games like Sengoku and Rance 01 occasionally popping in and out of the charts so I'd like to believe Rance titles have decent tails.

https://vndb.org/v22075 apparently came out. Anyone know if the TL is shit like their last release?

>>33736202
Rance consistently does well so I'm not worried about it. 01+02 was their highest selling title last year, Sengoku was the 3rd and VI the 7th.

>>33736497
do they translate the games themselves?
because their official website sure doesn't give confidence in their english skills

>>33736497
>Anyone know if the TL is shit like their last release?
I haven't read the stuff they released before but this TL is really bad, for example in this conversation she said "baka", I stopped reading 10 minutes in because it was just too much.

>>33736840
baka = shit?

>>33738762
Shiieeet.

>>33736840
Well seems like it's shit then.

>>33723981
>I'm just a little worried it will be used as a litmus test
Based on some of the staff comments on discord, it seems like that is the plan. More Laplacian stuff will apparently come if this does well.

>>33741079
That's retarded

>>33721150
It's coming out this Friday.
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/1371682394734948356

>>33741079
Does Jast just hate making money or is this one on Laplacian?

>>33714033
>>Musicus! - April 8th
Is the translator still unknown?

hope u guys enjoy ur mtl

>>33741079
Usually, it kinda makes sense but in this case, the game is so out of the usual Laplacian fare that it's weird to base anything on it.

Anyone else almost entirely lose interest in VNs over the past year or so?

so what did you chose for mangagamer survey?
fate? more BL?

>>33744722
Wonder if it comes down to them thinking if people are desperate/dumb enough to buy it then they will buy anything else.

>>33745025
Moto Yankee Tsuma Hinako
Ma*ko Hunter
Amakano

>>33745025
Lolige

>>33745025
Otome Domain
Amakano
Prism Recollection

>>33745025
Why bother? It's pointless.

>>33746480
Maybe if you vote for retarded stuff that's impossible for them to licence, yeah. In my case the things I consistently vote for seem to get picked up (eg. Kyonyuu Fantasy, Kenzen, Sakura no Mori Dreamers).

>>33742550
Yes. Hata tried to pry yesterday on MG Discord but only got sprayed by someone with a water bottle.

>>33745025
Three Liarsoft titles. Like every year. In fact this time it was Kusarihime, Tyrrhia and Sharnoth.

>>33745025
I only vote for pc-98soulge

>>33747162
Why would you bother voting for non-Mareni Liar-soft games?

>>33747297
We do not have people in the industry who could translate them so why bother. FairyTail Requiem I voted for last year.

>>33747162
>>33747315
Did you vote for the Jeanne one too?

>>33747345
Actually not. I voted last year for Fairytale Requiem, Forest and Kusarihime.

>>33746612
What did you vote for this time?

>>33747495
>>33745608
I couldn't think of anything I really wanted this year since they already announced KF3 (I'm aware 4 is coming out soon). I think next year I'll give up on Ma*ko Hunter and replace it with Erewhon though since Ma*ko Hunter is probably too old for them to pick up now.

>>33745025
Two Liar-Soft as always and one Laplacian since I wasn't expecting JAST.

>>33747914
Liarsoft bros!

>>33747762
Well I voted for Erewhon so here's hoping.

>>33748477
Good game :)

>>33744722
It's a poor choice, though it could be on Laplacian testing the waters as well after the less than stellar results with Sol Press.

Bros post more. We don't want this thread to die already on a tuesday man...

>>33750984
I try.

Might as well post it here, too.

>>33751538
So Fuuga is going to be Fuga, Ryuuichi is going to be Ryuichi and it's going to be full of typos?

>>33751649
That I don't know. I haven't played MML and I don't know who that TL is either. The Editor is known and they also have MUSICUS listed in their twitter bio now.

>>33751764
MML was excessively and poorly localized, the translation itself was fine though.

>>33751786
All I remember about MML is almost falling asleep from how fucking boring it was

>>Musicus! - April 8th
how come every single overdrive game is some shitty band setting?

kirakira was okay, deardrops was awful, and everything beyond that was incredibly terrible...what gives?

>>33752661
Setoguchi likes Music.

>>33752661
What about Dengeki Stryker?

>>33751538
>>33751649
This guy already pointed out a few weaknesses based on the Steam trailer
https://old.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/m2ifn9/musicus_is_now_available_for_preorder_from/gqkyzey/

>>33750984
I have to work, there are times when I can't post so I have to leave it to the NEETs to save the thread.

>>33752661
Musicus was somewhat of a passion project before Overdrive stopped making titles right?

>>33754821
Correct, although I wouldn't be surprised if they went on to make more titles anyway considering the fact that the kickstarter for Musicus made over $1,000,000.

>>33755055
No they will just pocket the money and live in the Weaboo mansion.

>>33755055
How long ago was that Kickstarter?

>>33755683
Not on hookers and blow?

>>33752661
Well you don't have to worry about this one, because it's the Moogy-approved greatest VN of all time, tied with Muramasa.

>>33756488
I think it was 2018.

>>33759163
That is not what he said. He said it is the LAST EROGE. What ever that means.

>>33760293

>>33759163
if moogy-dono liked it, i think i'll have to play it then

>>33759163
The supreme kamige. I don't think I'm ready.

So how's Sekai's new release? Is it any good?

>>33767097
The cafe one? No idea but the first game was pretty bad.

>>33755055
They probably would have announced something by now if they were planning to continue on. I can at least respect their desire to end on a bang rather than a wimper.

>>33767097
what new release?

>>33767268
Can you stop saying things are bad without ANY proof? It's a normal moege, nothing special but it looks cute as hell because of that Gochiusa artstyle.

>>33767372
Yeah announcing something new would defeat the point I guess.

>>33768123
One route literally had the heroine spend half of it with a guy who was interested in her and the other was some of the most forced bullying drama I've ever seen. It was shit.

>>33753046
That guy is a joke. He is also German.

>>33769838
>reading moege for the plot

You misunderstood the genre.

>>33769838
that was rough. seriously felt like i was about to get NTR'ed

>>33770992
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>33771053
No you are just wrong and don't want to admit it. Things are not objectively BAD because you don''t like them or find them forced. The game has merit and looks beautiful so definitely there will be people who appreciate the title. Realize that "I think x is bad" isn't equal to "this game is shit". You don't have any authority to decide that and you should give anon a constructive answer so he buys our game or not at his own volition.

>>33771141
>The game has merit and looks beautiful
Things are not objectively GOOD because you like them, bro.

Fuck off with this garbage.

>>33771280
You don't know how to give constructive critique and this is exactly why this industry sucks so much! People can just yell and rant on and on about our licenses are bad and it fucking sucks working like this. Why are you even surprised we don't immediately publish in English anymore?

>>33771413
larping as dovac is so 2016 anon

>>33760293
How can anybody be sure he knows Japanese? Wasn't the one VN he translated trash?

>>33771962
Moogy-dono already knew Japanese before you were born. Fuck off newfag.

>>33770971
But Germans never joke.

>>33753046
His first statement is
>Love the style of the translation, it's literal enough you can "hear" the Japanese [even with the sound off, I mean], and it doesn't read too stilted for me.
Only one of the things he posted was actually wrong (an editing error). Another might be similar but I can't tell without having the full sentence. Not really seeing evidence that it's terrible.

>>33770971
Some of his points seem ridiculous. Also his claim that "I'm probably the only one who'd notice" (lol). But
>"accomplish most things to sufficiency" (accomplish most things sufficiently?)
>"fidgeted in nervousness" (fidgeted nervously?)
makes sense, plus that typo.

>>33776161
May just be a result of being literal.

>>33767097
It's not looking too great for them since it has flopped in both Chinese and English now.

>>33777381
Those numbers are not flopping. People just buy stuff on Denpasoft

>>33777490
Oh, I'm sure.

>>33777573
Steam is literally useless at this point for VNs. Only non-school games can make it there. People should finally realize and put their game in the alternative stores or on FAKKU

>>33777591
>Steam is literally useless at this point for VNs.
Sure, if you don't want your title to have a chance to make money.

>>33777610
You can't make money if you can't ship your game.

>>33777626
I do agree with you that all these companies should just do what Nekonyan does and put their games on every single storefront possible (although they can somehow get all their games on steam, even after they get banned like Hello, Goodbye). But it has been stated by multiple people in the industry that steam makes up the vast majority of sales for games that are on multiple storefronts, so it's very much worth trying to put your game on there for the chance that it might get approved.

I'll never understand why everyone doesn't just follow the Subahibi method for getting a game on Steam. Cut out everything except the very beginning and put the rest of the game in a free patch. It's guaranteed to work and there's no policy against it. You just can't advertise the patch yourself on Steam.

>>33778055
Subahibi literally sold like shit because users were too stupid to understand that that small yuri-chapter was not the entire game. I frequent some communities and when I talk about Subahibi they tell me that they never got why the game was so "expensive" for 5 hours of gameplay...

People are dumber than you think.

>>33778132
>they tell me that they never got why the game was so "expensive" for 5 hours of gameplay...
I've never seen anyone say something like this and I think you're making it up.

New spooky game from qureate in the making and releases next month globally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1c4M3x84o

>>33777698
Just because Meru said once that 97% of her sales come from steam it doesn't have to be true. Cherry Kiss for example has equal distribution across all platforms.

>>33778656
Cherry Kiss isn't the best example since I'd assume people are more likely to buy nukige on porn websites than steam unless it's some memeshit and their titles don't exactly sell well in the first place.
Can I also get a source on that claim?

>>33778132
Subahibi sold fairly well for a recent R18 full length visual novel, it just didn't sell to the expectations that Frontwing had for it being on the tale end of when Frontwing expected everything to sell on par with the first Grisaia.

Speaking of which, Frontwing apparently just got bought out by Bushiroad.

>>33778793
Scaji wasn't happy with the sales for Subahibi in the west.

>>33778786
Source is Steamspy (paid version)

>>33778835
>Scaji wasn't happy with the sales for Subahibi in the west.
And? Does he run KeroQ/Makura?

>>33778850
YES?

>>33778793
>Speaking of which, Frontwing apparently just got bought out by Bushiroad.
Frontwing Lab, not Frontwing.
>>33778835
>Source is Steamspy (paid version)
Steamspy gives you sales data of sites other that steam? That's some good value you're getting! You will never be Ti9, stop trying.

>>33778793
Is it good news they got bought out? Will we finally get Djibril instead of Grisaia for the 10th time?

>>33778918
We will get Sakutoki.

>>33778918
I'm pretty sure Frontwing Lab were the ones in charge of the soshage they were making, so that's probably the reason Bushiroad bought them.

>>33778953
Oh well, why would anything good ever happen.

>>33778948
I fucking wish

>>33778642
Considering it looks like a spiritual sequel to Prison Princess, that probably means a Steam release later on but no H.

>>33778953
Yes exactly. https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/7803/tdnet/1944867/00.pdf

This document states what was part of the deal.

>>33778953
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-03-18/bushiroad-acquires-media-company-frontwing/.170751

ANN claims that Frontwing Lab is the parent company

>>33781605
ANN are constantly wrong, I have no idea why you'd trust anything they say.

>>33781784
Wow. I am more than confused now, honestly.

>>33781849
https://lab.frontwing.co.jp/company_info/index.html

>>33745025
KARA NO SHOUJO 3

>>33781605
The term parent company apparently is misleading. Companies can found parent companies after the fact. Also the definition of a parent company differs in every country slightly.

>>33778656
With the Steam ban, I'm curious what the numbers end up looking like for Evenicle 2, since the series has name recognition thanks to the extremely successful Steam release of the original and they managed to get (and still have) the demo for 2 on Steam to let people on the platform know it is upcoming.

>>33787235
Has anything even been said about Evenicle 2 since the ban?

>>33787235
We can't even remotely discuss numbers until we found out what storefront it'll be on, if there will be mosaics, and if there will be any cut content. Then there's also the potential issues with the translation which can absolutely cost sales. I can safely say that Evenicle 2 will not turn a profit for alicesoft simply because of how much they spent on rushing through it. Hiring 3 translators and multiple editors is fucking expensive and comes with its own set of problems.

My initial predictions ASSUMING it got on steam put it at best at 35% the sales of the first Evenicle based on current market trends, though more realistically it was about 15%-20%. Without steam and with them keeping mosaics and selling it on an obscure storefront I expect sales between 5%-10% of what Evenicle did. This might sound like i'm crazy lowballing it but Evenicle on steam sold an obscene amount of copies, this isn't even taking into account the number of sales on MG's official storefront either. The steam sales numbers were leaked for Evenicle when Arunaru bailed on MG. I believe he said that at the time it sold about 15,000 copies on steam whereas most Alicesoft titles only sell about 1000-1500 copies.

>>33787664
>whereas most Alicesoft titles only sell about 1000-1500 copies.
1000-1500 copies on Mangagamers storefront* Which is why Alicesoft decided to cut out MG for the release of Evenicle 2 and do it themselves, since Alicesoft probably only saw 10% of that in royalties.

>>33787730
Did they really only get 10%? That sounds like a really small cut.

>>33788331
I'd assume alicesoft get a higher % than that, there's also the licensing fee that you have to take into account which usually isn't cheap.

>>33787664
Thanks Quof

>>33788331
They didn't have to pay for the translation nor the marketing or programming for the VN. Basically, they got money for doing absolutely nothing for the English version.

>>33787664
This is just speculation on my part but I feel this will have big consequences on Alicesoft in the future. If the Evenicle 2 sale numbers are a massive dissapointment we might see them follow the Lilith route of going all in on gacha. Rather than translate their VN's they might choose to only release their gacha in the west.

>>33794377
I don't think that will be the case specifically in regards to Evenicle 2 given that Alicesoft themselves very clearly acknowledge that they've massively changed up how the title was handled compared to Evenicle 1 with the retention of mosaics, unmentioned censoring of their demo release, and completely different publisher. They've most certainly realized that they've massively shot themselves in the foot with Evenicle 2, if only because of Steam telling them to fuck off and now they have no storefront they can release it on because they themselves told MG to fuck off like steam just did to them.
>Congratulations, you played yourself
-Mangagamer right now, probably

>>33794578
That is assuming that it was a decision that MG held animosity towards. Honestly I don't know if it was ever like that, if I was in MG's position I don't even know if I'd want to pick up Evenicle 2, what with their backlog of Alicesoft and the departure of one of their main translators. To be honest I thought of it as a 'best of both worlds' scenario, where MG can get more work done on Rance and Alicesoft can get us Evenicle 2 in the mean time, but what a catastrophe it turned out to be.

Either way, though, MG comes out looking good regardless. I mean, sure, Arunaru shat out questionable translation decisions left and right, but we always got the games without cut content and usually with a lot of engine improvements because MG hire some dedicated programmers for the Alicesoft titles.

It would be funny if, in the end, Alicesoft has to publish it on MG's store. I mean, where else is it going to go? JAST, maybe? I dunno.

>>33794968
>if I was in MG's position I don't even know if I'd want to pick up Evenicle 2
You realize they made over $600,000 on Evenicle right? What kind of company wouldn't want to pick up the sequel to an insanely profitable title. That's like saying Sekai Project wouldn't want to publish Nekopara 2 or 3. That's absolute lunacy.

>>33794999
What I mean is picking it up so early. If I was in MG's position, I would have waited or another year or two before approaching Alicesoft for licensing. Maybe that's why Alicesoft went and did their own thing. Maybe they were just inpatient.

>>33794968
Honestly, despite how everyone seems to picture some animosity between the two companies, I feel like an adult version of Evenicle 2 would have ended up on the MG store eventually, either via patch or complete version.

Although seeing how being rejected by Steam meant a delay in the release date, they were obviously weren't ready for an uncut version at all. I can't see them releasing a built to Steam unless it was basically near the end so they probably cut more stuff out if it's that bad a delay.

>>33714033
>Bishoujo Mangekyou - 1306/11141 lines, 11.72% lines translated
which one?

>>33796716
Biman 2. But it doesn't matter because it's likely been dropped.

>>33794968
Why not JAST? Their delays aside, JAST was the first Western VN company to demand the games be uncensored and DRM-free.

>>33794578
I don't know much about Steam policies, but is Alicesoft got kicked out permanently from publishing future games there, or is it just Evenicle 2 alone?

>>33798376
Just Evenicle 2.

>>33798376
You use to be able to resubmit game applications over and over again with changes, but now you only get one submission per game and if it is denied you can't submit that game again even if you change it to fix what ever issue they had with it.
I do wonder if you could get around that by saying the game is a different edition of the game by just tagging it "steam edition" if it is blocked.

>>33803810
I wouldn't be too surprised though if more titles are falling into the "we need changes, but aren't rejecting this title outright, at least initially" category these days, considering fewer full length VNs seem to have been getting banned outright over the last few months, with Evenicle 2 (and all its H-content aside from one flashback) being the main exception.

>>33798451
And even then, the demo is still available on Steam.

>>33796716
Not dropped guys. Eileen is trusty

Amagami TL-kun, I hope you haven't been too swamped with the work

>>33794968
Fakku

>>33808872
Fakku might as well be dead.

>>33808515
Surely this year will be the year!

>>33810225
I wish

>>33806563
That's odd. Shouldn't that have been deleted too?

>>33819260
Demos are counted as separate entries on steam, so as long as Alicesoft decides to keep it up there it will stay.

>>33777591
While I agree with this sentiment, last time I checked, the Denpasoft store was utter shit. I'm someone who finds the MG store adequate since all I want is to download my games, but Denpasoft makes you jump through hoops to do that.

>>33820862
it was a nightmare before but not anymore. all it is now is my account->downloads

Why was the goal so low? Makes it seem like a scam.

>>33821553
Because it is. It's just a pre-order system basically.

>>33821553
90k for one vn is low?

>>33821553
Goal was low because the kickstarter was specifically for physical goods despite that being against kickstarters rules, not for a translation project.

>>33821553
Idk if it's a reason, but the ones with high initial goals usually fail to make their goal. So by setting it low you can all but guarantee your kickstarter 'succeeds'. And if it succeeds, then those who prefer not to contribute to kickstarters that not may make it then start to put the money in.

Another reason could be that that initial goal is the base amount they want to make purchasing and shipping physical goods worth the effort and time in the first place.

>>33714033
>VN has slice of life tag
I do not read that VN.

>>33822356
Holy based

>>33821012
Oh, okay. It's nice to see that they changed it to something sensible.

>>33821623
You wanna try and read it again, buddy?

>>33714033
Any Visual Novel with a westerner as the protagonist.

haha this is based

https://twitter.com/onowasabi/status/1373287602632019971

Guess that was just JAST PR talk then. Sounds like an English version of Yonagi is planned. Unless this is Laplacian going solo.

>>33827792
>newfag discovers 2 year old non-drama
congrats

>>33829244
Yeah tricking people into buying there title. Learned it from MG I guess.

>>33832694
Pretty sure "buy more shit from this company to get more from them" is a time-honored tradition from JAST themselves.

Looks like Shira is now using Denuvo DRM

>>33833189
Are fucking VNs worth the price of denuvo?

I've noticed that in games that have a primary focus on the heroine, I tend to lose interest once they lose their virginity. I think that to me the appeal of a heroine is innately tied to their virginity, and once it's gone I lose motivation to continue. I've tried thinking of counterexamples from my experience, but they fit the rule. For example one of my favorite VNs is Clannad, but once you get to the point at which Tomoya and Nagisa have sex (which is quite late, about halfway through After Story maybe?) the primary focus of the story has shifted from Nagisa to Tomoya, so it didn't cause a problem for me. Or in a "plotge" there is something else that is the main concern, so my interest can be maintained. But for moege and things of that sort I find routes almost impossible to finish. Even if I'm enjoying it, once the H-scenes start I burn out almost immediately and drop it.

>>33834002
It's exactly the same for me

>>33834002
It's probably more that when the sole goal of the game is to "get" the girl, once that's done (and usually you get your first lewds one minute afterwards), there's no goal left. And there's nothing worse for motivation than having nothing to look forward to, especially when the writing is generally meh.

The number 1 problem of cation games for example. Got the girl? Here, have a bunch of not connected boring and random slice of life scenes with random ero here and there. No goal, no structure, no anything.

The reason you don't have that issue otherwise is exactly that. Those works still have goals and reasons to stay. They have more of a structure. Shitty moege fall into the trap of no more motivation a lot. Some don't, but that's not too common.

>>33834002
>>33834101
I'm thinking based.

>>33835557
Hated her route. Ruined the game for me and convinced me that Nasu is a talentless fraud.

>>33834002
>>33834101
I agree that in moege it's a serious problem, though I don't really think that it's so much a virginity thing, but rather that the "thrill of the hunt" is usually all the game has going for it aside from, well, moe. Once the girl has been conquered, the girl game no longer has much to offer. I mean, it's quite normal for moege to plateau in terms of enjoyability once the initial hump of interesting relationship development is over, as that's all they're usually capable of. Afterwards the drama usually becomes more melodramatic, or they come up with some nonsensical plot development that is just stupid, or... they don't really do anything at all (Snoreworks). It doesn't really help that the protagonists of these titles are usually wet blankets that don't offer much in the way of actual chemistry or character depth, so their interactions post and pre coitus are usually pretty weak.

It might not be a moege, but I still feel like Damekoi was a far better girl game than most. The relationships were actually interesting to read for me, even though they were rife with the kind of melodrama that would usually piss me off. I think it's because the protagonist and heroines were much stronger characters than usual. There was actually something going on there. Though I know some people here really disliked Damekoi so I'm probably in the minority on that.
>>33835557
For me, virginity isn't really as important so long as they don't make it a weird issue. The Heaven's Feel route was struck me as weird, because Nasu really harps on about Sakura's lack of virginity quite a bit in the story. I don't remember him focusing on it nearly as much during Kohaku's route, and it was a lot less irritating because of it. Meanwhile in Sakura's route the story keeps going "she's a non-virgin, trash isn't she?"

>>33836383
>For me, virginity isn't really as important
cuck.

>>33836396

>>33837560
lol

>>33837560
Yet people still keep giving them money.

>>33837721
They haven't beaten Sekai's record yet.

>>33836383
>The Heaven's Feel route was struck me as weird, because Nasu really harps on about Sakura's lack of virginity quite a bit in the story. I don't remember him focusing on it nearly as much during Kohaku's route, and it was a lot less irritating because of it.
The difference between Sakura and Kohaku is that in Kohaku's route you don't get a whole lot of detail about what happened to Kohaku. You get enough that you understand it, but the game doesn't dwell on it. It's more about the psychological effect that it had on her. But in Sakura's route it's constantly shoving in your face what happened to Sakura. You're constantly getting more details thrown at you, even up to near the end of the game. It felt like Nasu was trying to work through some kind of personal emotional complex rather than write something meaningful. Like the thing that bothers him about it is the sexual details so he wanted to make those as extreme as possible, far beyond the scope of reality (the thing with Kohaku was something that could have been real, barring the supernatural justification), so that he could try and cope with it by making her still be "pure" at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyPGh8D7rM

Seems like a VN about /jp/sies.

>>33836383
>It might not be a moege, but I still feel like Damekoi was a far better girl game than most. The relationships were actually interesting to read for me, even though they were rife with the kind of melodrama that would usually piss me off. I think it's because the protagonist and heroines were much stronger characters than usual. There was actually something going on there. Though I know some people here really disliked Damekoi so I'm probably in the minority on that.
I felt the same way. Strong characters (particularly the MC) are on the of the most important things in a VN to me. It wasn't a perfect VN but it's better than any other pure romance game I've read.

>>33839265
New thread up with the updates for this week

>>33714033
Tatus