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>>33521086
>cunny op
OH BOY

>>33521146
Beato.

>>33521163
not beato its shodan

same culprits in every single game including reality and Bern's game.

magic totally killed since all meta-scene had a counterpart in reality

BATTLER NEVER FORGOT ABOUT YASU AND FEEL HER SAME BETRAYL PAIN

this is the perfect theory why you hate it?

>>33521191
Beato.

The Everlasting of Rokkenjima.

>>33521218
UUWWWooooooooooooohhh Beato don't be sad. i dont want to lose that beautiful smile of yours

>>33521236
>money as motive

Williard: i will never accet anything outside love as motive

anon take your loveless theory who violates anything written inside umineko into trash

The CHAD of rokkenjima

Where were you when Cicona Phase 2 was announced 20 minutes ago?

>>33521314
Fake.

>>33521314
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ITS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

>>33521314
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU

>>33521314
>For you the gullible ones

>>33521326
NVM LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7UwrNBid5A this is the link

>>33521346
You're going to make him cancel phase 2 at this rate

>>33521314
>07th officiai
Fuck you

>>33521346
why would someone do this

>>33521236
>different co-conspirators is a "contant"
nigger, that's not a rule at all. it has no predictive value. was this ever confirmed by Ryukishi?

>>33521393
yes, it's from the official manga.

>>33521423
the official bullshit

>>33521446
I'm gonna take a leap of faith and assume you're not the Italian, R07 confirmed the manga as official canon and his answer.

>>33521423
can we just drop the idea that the manga is absolute confirmation of anything just because it's official? it's clear Ryukishi left the mangaka a lot of creative license and just endorsed the final result because he was generally happy with it.

>>33521393
This is written by R07 from "letter from bernkastel" are you gonna ignore the fucking vn too?>>33521446
Its from the Umineko Tsubasa VN not manga you moron

>>33521465
look here a witche so witches are real without any kind of proof

>>33521479
>from bernkastle
her bullshits like what we see in ep7

>>33521484
Heckin Cute and valid

>>33521479

>>33521473
It's not just that the manga is official it's that the answers contained within the manga, along with extra content like the Confessions manga which was written by R07 explicitly for the purpose of clearing up things like Sayo's motive, got the official stamp by R07 as the answer of Umineko.

>APGNation: The character of Sayo Yasuda in Umineko is interesting. What were your thoughts in Sayo’s creation? Additionally, what were your thoughts on her expansion in the Umineko manga?

>Ryukishi07: The secret of the character of Sayo is the core of Umineko’s story, so her inner workings and development were designed carefully and with the utmost complexity.

>In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

>With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.

>Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

>Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.

>By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

@33521484
I took a gamble and trusted that you weren't the Shitalian and it didn't pay off.

Battler taking Ange to 1986 Rokkenjima to show that her family loved her reminds me a lot of one of my favorite movies, 'It's a Wonderful Life', with Clarence showing George how his life would have been if he was never born. After the journey, the protagonist has a big change of mindset that allow them to find happiness, even when nothing changed in their current situation. I wish they still made honest, sincere, emotional movies like this today.

>>33521528
SMART!

>>33521479
>Lambda-Delta boasted that I will 'absolutely' not be able to win in this game board.
>At that time, I paradoxically identified the rule X.
>She's really a stupid girl.
>In other words, it's like the story that always starts from June, 20th.
Probably, this is the core of the Witch Beatrice.
>For now, I assumed that this rule Z is a maze-like existence putting haze over the truth.
>In other words, a maze to not let me come close to rules X and Y.
how is this even remotely the same?

>>33521542
That pic reminds me of how absolutely blown out roriange's anus must be from the absolutely daily poundings she must get.

>>33521531
>t. Ryukishi "it's true, I was afraid of making shit up in interview again" 07

>>33521531
>>33521479
>>33521554

since all here are accepting this bullshit as truth

different culprit in every games.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH IN SHKANONTRICE HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YOU MEAN EVA AND HIDEYOSHI OR EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT

AGAIN SHKANONTRICE DENY ITSELF

>>33521548
Beato!

>>33521566
Now you're backpedalling from "It's not canon" to "W-Well he's just lying!" lmao.

>>33521591
try re-reading the replychain, hun

>>33521531
AN OFFICIAL ANSWARE
AN
NOT THE

BASED RYUKISHI I KNEEL

>>33521570
it says coconspirator not accomplice are blind and illiterate too???

Pretending to love Sayo and forcing her to renounce her love for Jessica, then dumping her and filling the void inside Jessica's heart!

>>33521591
NOPE

A TRUTH THAT CANT BE FOUND OUT HAS NO RIGTH OF BE CALLED TRUTH

NO ONE FOUND OUT ERIKA=KANON SO RYUKISHI APPROVE NATSUHI CULPRIT THEORY AS SOLUTION

>>33521606
EVERYONE IS THE FUCKING CULPRIT 3 TIMES STRAIGTH OR EVA AND HIDEYOSHI

KNEEL

>>33521601
The reply chain was
>can we just drop the idea that the manga is absolute confirmation of anything just because it's official?
Now you're saying the manga isn't confirmation of anything despite R07 explicitly saying it's confirmation of everything because he's just lying again about everything?

>>33521574
Rika-macha!

>>33521628
you didn't quote the next sentence :)

Where are the Dlanorposters?

>>33521646
trying to SLEEP

>>33521638
The next sentence just isn't true though, because he didn't just leave it up to creative license he EXPLICITLY directed the manga author
>to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.
which included R07 writing entirely new content like Confessions which explained everything.

It wasn't just left up to Kei Natsumi.

>>33521661
It's only 9 PM.

>>33521669
where i live its almost THREE

>>33521667
HE NEVER GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MANGA
HE JUST SAID THAT VOLUME 8 IS TRUE STOP FORCING YOUR HEADCANONS

>>33521680
almost nailed the ciconia bg filter aesthetic

>>33521667
>which included R07 writing entirely new content like Confessions which explained everything.
A CONFESSION THAT VIOLATE EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN UMINEKO TO ENFORCE THIS THEORY.

>>33521272
Thank you Italian for spitting the truth.

>>33521750
nothing is my duty of Umineko reader

Cumming to Maria!

>>33521314
god i wish.

People gonna be mad tomorrow

Would people like Ciconia and RGD more if every scene was super slow and took forever? That seems to be the main criticism people had against Higurashi and Umineko, but it also added to the atmosphere somehow.

I like slow ass amateur Ryu and concise writer Ryu, but I can see why someone would hate one of the two.

If Maria isn't meant to be fucked or masturbate at all, how come her clit works perfectly? Doesn't that mean it's supposed to be used?

>>33521531
explain Piece then
the period... got erased

Why is Ange so human and so condition?

>>33521866
Maria sex.

Satoko sex

I don't know nip, that does it say

Why so much focus on the chandelier to the point it even shows up in the ending?

Is there something more to it?

>>33521777
my duty is making video of erikantrice you know who I am friend :)

>>33521926
Karma wheel or something.

>>33521926
I doubt it has much relevance, but I believe the only reason the chandelier gets used as a deadly trap is because Satoko is deeply hurt by her misunderstanding of Rika snitching on her. If that incident didn't happen who knows, maybe it wouldn't be the chandelier being used, maybe Satoko would change her mind. It all adds up in the end. Tomorrow's episode is going to shed light on what keeps her going with this plan and doing more gruesome things to her other friends included.

>>33521964
>Tomorrow's episode is going to shed light on what keeps her going with this plan and doing more gruesome things to her other friends included.
I can't wait for s/a/toko /a/utists to justify Satoko's actions saying that she still is morally above Rika.

>>33521314
fag

I fucking cried

>>33521926
It also doubles as a karma wheel. Note that even Higurashi Kai used similar imagery for its ending.

>>33521314
I got so excited there for a minute you asshole

Soooo Chole is 100% a traitor right?

>>33521851
My main criticism of Ciconia is that it's just very dull. In Episode 1 of Umineko we have a traditional orthodox murder mystery in the vein of And Then There Were None where all the the characters and their motivations are introduced to us before they're slowly picked off one by one by what is seemingly an outside force. Then Episode 2 comes around and it does the murder mystery again, but focusing on Rosa's character instead of Natsuhi this time round and it delves deeper into meta aspects like the logic battles between Beato and Battler that the reader can actually figure out for themselves if they want to. It's much more immediately compelling and enjoyable and Battler has like a clear goal and motivation and cool moments that make you root for him.

Whereas in Ciconia there are like 20 characters immediately dropped on us, whose motivations of "we must protect the walls of peace!" really just aren't as compelling as Battler's initial aims of denying magic, and then events just happen to these characters. They're strung along by secret societies that they don't know about and so there's no interesting conflict and drama like there was with Battler and Beatrice, it's just boring things happening to boring characters with boring motives who are entirely unaware of what's actually going on. But not in an interesting cat and mouse way, like when people were cornered in a conspiracy like in Higurashi or Umineko.

>>33522013
It was a good scene, but I wish it gave this level of emotions. While I love Ciconia, I don't feel anything to the characters. It was just cruel, not heartbreaking at all.

>>33521851
Fuck no. He should've make like 3 times less characters and make them more interesting.
I do understand the idea of international team from the whole world to give the stakes, but holy shit he failed them as a characters.

I swear this Walls of peace shit is like Uuu Uuu from Maria but at least it was just from Maria and not from the entire cast!

https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3061059/

Why are so many fanfiction writers going insane in the last few months? This was one of my favorites and he's turned into a religious nutjob and nuked everything, what the fuck.

>>33522314
All of them have mental problems so it checks out.

>>33522322
Read the bible bro. And then Torah.

>>33522084
It's Phase 1 out of 4. RGD was also too focused on build up and I didn't care about anyone in Season 1, but it really picks up later and now I can't get any of these characters out of my head. Even more than the Higurashi and Umineko ones for some reason.

>>33522322

>>33522225
> I don't feel anything to the characters.
That's the point. You barely know them. Even the main character. Reminds me of Battler from ep 1 when there's still some gap to consider him as one of the culprits. But Miyao is in a extreme level of ambiguous. Can't wait till they reveal that he's the demiurge or something.

How would you react if everyone in Ciconia is actually super interesting out of nowhere because they are the original schizos whose multiple personalities had their memories wiped and their identities replaced in the Higurashi and Umineko matrix?

>>33522339
RGD is painful to read if you understand the state of Japan that is presented in there.

>>33522339
>It's Phase 1 out of 4
Which is why my comparison was limited to only the first two episodes of Umineko and not the entirety of Umineko.

>>33522371
>Higurashi and Umineko matrix
Ciconia don't need to heavily rely on those 2 just to get you interested. They've already established the rules and the plot in phase 1. Now all we need is for that to pay off in phase 2 to get really interesting.

>>33522372
France and Spain are going through similar stuff right now. All our culture is being replaced by American customs through media exposure and the politicians are actively infesting both countries with muslims while making conditions so harsh for the natives that they have no choice but leave or stay single and childless.

>>33522371
I always knew that Rethabile was Shion and Beatrice.

>>33522447
>that they have no choice but leave or stay single and childless.
yeah anon, that's totally why you don't have a girlfriend. It's American culture and politicians and society.

Rokkenjima Prime -> Ciconia real world -> brains in jars -> Phase 1 -> Higurashi -> Phase 2

I'm not a very social person, it only got obvious to me that Beato had romantic feelings for Battler at the end of ch.4. I'm the type of guy that notices a girl was flirting with me 5 years after it happened.

>>33522483
Are you a tourist?

>>33522498
do you have a girlfriend

>>33522495
I want to say based because you are too cool for them to care about them flirting.

So, um. R07 if anything have at least 15 years of writing expirience. Why would he do so much somewhat simple characters and just throw them all at once? Is he too far ahead with his plans?

>>33522506
Are you american?

>>33522515
Well, I'm not cool or based, but women have never been a priority on my life. At least I'm not a desperate nice guy or whatever.

Heavenly Maria!

>>33522534
no, do you blame americans as to why you don't have a girlfriend?

>>33522536
Dab on girls anon. Be based.

>>33522519
What if all the kettes are actually one single schizo and not three bodies?

>>33522322
This is why I save everything I like. Even shitty stuff can give me ideas for my own writing.

>>33522551
fuck yeah

>>33522578
>>33522322
remember what is important is the frens we made on the way

I want to hug this little gloomy autistic girl like you wouldn't believe

>>33522619
Those thighs, this ass... the child of heaven is well endowed indeed.

>>33522676
do you have a girlfriend?

>>33522699
Nope. I wasn't saying that in a sexual way, it was more of a protective instinct. I have two little sisters.

>>33522698

Need...Dlanor...

>>33522714
>I have two little sisters.
I have the perfect solution for you.

>>33522714
Girlfriends are not just for sex...

Why is satoko ant recogni get it it and why did r07 add it to her character in the story the cauliflower and the broccoli i just dont doing that thing where she

>>33522767
Nah, sister incest fetish is for people that don't actually have sisters, anon.

>>33522773
I wouldn't know.

>>33522791

>>33521314
alright which one of you assholes did this

>>33522791

Favorite Ciconia song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrPllRrw6c&ab_channel=GoddamnBernkastel

>>33521314
AAAAA IM CRYING AND SHITTING AND CUMMING

>>33522791

I cannot think of anything or anyone other than Dlanor.

>>33522791

Is the Dlanor squad finally back?
I've been waiting for this.

>>33522791

>>33522791

It's time for the Dlanor resurgence.

>>33522791
QUICK, SOMEONE GET THE SYRINGE, ANON IS GOING L5

>>33522791
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY

>>33522891
>Eiserne Jungfrau
I don't know how the japanese can steal random words and phrases from other languages and most of the time it sounds extremely bad ass.

>>33522852
You posted it.

Dlanor, you say?

I've had enough of these fucking Dlanor posters.

The SQUAD is BACK.

>>33522791
Why is satoko anti recognition get it in and w why did r07 add it to her character in the story the cauliflower and the broccoli i just dont (know) doing that thing shere she (is)

I think he's just trying to say why did r07 make Satoko unable to differentiate vegetables

>>33522852
https://youtu.be/xCNSxMlYgJA

Dlanor, from ABN Austria

>>33522791
Your IP has been forwarded to the authorities Poyo~!

>>33522852
Sunya no Sora, but it's not really a Ciconia track, so this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fM1Ox7fxAo

>>33522791
When are we getting the Answer Arc for this post?

Dlanor squad, you know what to do.
Next thread we shall claim the OP.

>>33523003
Pre holder is such a gem. To bad he wrote only TWO FUCKING TRACKS

I think anon is a *kero**kero**kero**kero* with a *kero**kero* on a *kero**kero**kero*

this fragment sucks

What if Teppei forces Satoko to strip butt-naked in the middle of class and he'll look through the window to make sure she did it?

What if she's threatened with violence, rape and burning down her house unless she obeys?

Would she do it and humiliate herself in front of everyone without explanation or is she brave enough to put her dignity before her own well-being, knowing Teppei might kill her that night in a painful way if she comes home having disobeyed his orders?

>>33523063
Satoko would do it independent from what Teppei says, because she's a dirty bitch

>>33522714
>I have two little sisters
Are they pathetic ass-havers?

>>33523060
>Satoko stroke post from an L5 patient
>Dlanor squad resurgence
This is a good THREAD.

What would Dlanor look like in Ciconia? Same outfit? Something more akin to Yeladot Shavit? Her own squad?

It's not gay to have sex with a guy if you're dating his female personality, right?

>>33523063
How would they react to Satoko stripping naked? What would go through their minds? What would Chie sensei say?

>>33523094
I can see her wearing something like what Naomi wears, but then from the hip down it's suddenly really slutty

Humans have 33 spines. Satoko is abnormal because her brain in a jar's spinal cold has 34.

>>33523045
>the most expensive 07th project
>half of it has free music
>and very important music like this track is from another project
Yikes

>>33523099
Allah will smite you down Jayden

>>33523094
If she does appear in Ciconia, give her a nun outfit please.
To appeal to my degenerate niche fetish. Haha . . . .

>>33523094
Dlanor would live in a cave to hide herself from the shame. She announced in red that the decalogue prevented crazy technology from existing in the future and now everyone is running around with a quasi-magical device that looks like her own gauntlet.

>>33523111
trips confirm it

Would you torture Naima if she wrote smut of her favorite cartoon characters and it was really cute and lewd despite the poor writing because a prudish rori wrote it while masturbating, but then she deleted everything in shame after you arlready got attached to it and considered it a masterpiece?

Would she be worthy of hatred and torture for deleting her own creations?

Dlanor is from LATO, it's the only place where her gauntlet style would maybe fit

Someone explain the end of Ciconia to me.
I thought Gunhild's sister was whoring herself to fat old men, but then when Gunhild is looking at the top secret records it says she's dead and disposed of.
Was that scene with Mitake and the secondary secretaries just anachronistic and something that happened further in the past, and she went to the Geroy institute later? Or did R07 seriously pull a "lol you thought it was Gunhild's sister but it's just some random other person with the same name"?

>>33523099
Of course it is you raging homo. How could anyone get off to the idea of removing Miyao's clothes and licking his tiny body all over, nibbling his neck and kissing his adorable little nipples? Only a disgusting faggot would think about his cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with his saliva, pumping in and out of his mouth until it erupts, the cum more than his little throat can swallow.

The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down his chin over his flat, delicate chest, his tiny hands scooping it all up and watching him suck it off her fingertips is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading his smooth slender thighs, cock poised at the entrance to his pure, tight, virginal butthole, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes his lips which are slippery with cum, while his small body shudders from having his cherry taken in one quick stroke.

I am disgusted at how you'd get even more excited as you lean over him, listening to his quickening breath, his girlish moans and gasps while you hasten your strokes, his sweet pants warm and moist on your face and his chest, shiny with a sheen of fresh sweat, rising and falling rapidly to meet yours.

It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over his tiny body while you violate him, feeling his nipples hardening against your tongue as you lick his chest and his neck, savoring the scent of his skin and sweat while he trembles from the stimulation and as he reaches his climax, hearing him cry out softly as he has his first orgasm while your cock is buried impossibly deep inside him, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through his freshly-deflowered boyhole for the first time, filling his butt only to spill out of him with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop his flushed body, he sighs breathlessly and his fingers dig into your back as he feels your cock hardening inside him again.
You're sick in the head.

>>33523094
one of the blue gauntlet knights, obviously. she even has the same frilly thing above her crotch

>>33522322
This is why Featherine built a massive library for all her favorite fragments and will obliterate anyone who tries to stir up shit. Imagine that faggot Ange breaking in and demanding that she DELETE or HOARD Eva's diary and never let anyone read it. What a bitch.

Always collect your favorite fragments and share them with everyone. The more copies exist in the world, the more protected from oblivion it will be.

>>33523212
Oh shit, I think you might be right anon

>>33523212
>Dlanor in the skin-tight blue outfit
Good heavens above.
Well, the frills were used in higu to identify angel mort waitresses, in umineko to identify... servants, to the higher powers. Stakes, Chiesters, Eiserne. I think it follows the same path.

>>33523226
>Imagine that faggot Ange breaking in and demanding that she DELETE or HOARD Eva's diary and never let anyone read it. What a bitch.
I constantly bully Japanese artists off the internet and force them to leave the internet because of the anons here complaining about it, for the sole purpose of keeping the catbox closed.

>>33523283
Huge if true

>>33523184
>I thought Gunhild's sister was whoring herself to fat old men, but then when Gunhild is looking at the top secret records it says she's dead and disposed of.
She was whoring herself and the humiliation of having to show her tits made her resign and try to become a GK again. She had no talent, so she subjected herself to the experiments and died.

However, in the Gunhild tip we can see that there is a fake story about her leaving. Gunhild can read the true story because she has security clearance SS-. But we are told that there is an even higher level at the beginning of that scene, which implies that the story Gunhild read was fake and it was yet another layer of deception. If she had access to level SS+ information she would learn she's alive and became a blue gauntlet girl or something.

>>33523193

>>33523283
This isn't funny, so why make up that story? And if you actually do this, you are a soulless piece of shit that doesn't enjoy art and actively wants to hurt people. You are a psycho.

So who is Miyao's kill switch you think? The Jestress?

>>33523331
Every time you bring it up is another page of deleted works, never seen again but hoarded on my computer.

>>33523283
I hate you

>>33523378
Isn't Miyao's switch accidentally triggered by a few set phrases early on in the story?

>>33523417
I thought I remember Blue Miyao saying if he sees a certain person's face he fucking loses it?

>>33523226
>Ange breaking in and demanding that she DELETE
I want poorly photoshoped Ange with the gun right now.

>>33523378
Didn't it just have to be a picture of the person he's supposed to kill?
>>33523430
That's what I thought, speaking of this though I'm confused about the jump to the factory when Blue Miyao showed Miyao something that was supposed to trigger it
I thought it was supposed to make Miyao go after his target and kill everything that stood in his way?

>>33523331
>>33523413
Tourists?

>>33523430
That's one of them yeah, but there are like two instances of Blue Miyao saying like "prophecy, prediction, certainty" or something along those lines and Miyao accidentally sees visions of the meat factories right?

>>33523461
> Miyao accidentally sees visions of the meat factories right
Did Miyao actually see that though? Because he doesn't really react to it at all. If anything, I feel like they might be Blue Miyao's memories rather than something Miyao is somehow seeing.

>>33523118
All of the soundtracking budget was used up on Trianthology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsMBoyQDnDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W5cIhFONC4&]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJllRBOr-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU5kN2no_f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9zokcy5L_g

She's Miyao's mother, right?

>>33523546
No, Vier is. But they're the same person, so uh.........................

>>33523546
She's my mommy.

>>33523546
||She, Vier, and Seshat, at the same time||

>>33523574
>||
OH NONONONONO

>>33523574
>||
Back on the bus, tourist.

>>33523574
>||
I refuse to believe this wasn't done with 100% irony

>>33523598
>>33523588
>>33523589
It was most likely ironic, trying to get some easy (you)s imitating the Mion tourist from the last threads.

>>33523588
>>33523589
>>33523598
Oh right, those are dicksword spoiler tags aren't they? I was wondering why he did that. What a retard.

>>33523633
Mion was not a tourist.

>>33523574
Where's the Seshat connection? Am I just slow?

>>33523546
shes the mother to our future children

>>33523574
>>33523615
are you doing okay anon

>>33523045
What...the fuck actually happened in haworthia? Is it a simulation inside a space ship that left the Earth? Or is it on the Earth itself?

>>33523653
>>33523572
>>33523546
She is the holy mary

>>33523003
This one is comfy as fuck

Well, anyway, I think the killswitch is probably Jestress and that's unironically why she wears the mask. Her speeding off at the end was her chasing down Miayo to spank his fat shota ass

>>33523680
the holy mary has thighs made for milking

>>33523709
You know, I'm always shocked how little porn there is of the Holy Mary. You'd think that'd be the first thing edgelords gun for

>>33523680
Not the virgin mary anymore after what I did to her heh

>>33523680
>Her speeding off at the end was her chasing down Miayo to spank his fat shota ass
Hot. Someone here was saying a few days ago that it was the Bernkastel expy that's shown in the background because the person she's chasing at the end is described as being like a shadow of the moonlight reflecting off the water, which is how Bernkastel is described in her fight against Battler.

What do you think of Umineko's PS3 opening?

https://youtu.be/KAeIcuss9UI

>>33523722
We need a proper japanese drawn Holy Mary. Maybe modern Fateshit can get it done, they already lewded Saint Martha.

>>33523568
I figured she had a connection to Vier due to her appearance but is that just her avatar then?

>>33523730
>like a shadow of the moonlight reflecting off the water, which is how Bernkastel is described in her fight against Battler.
Can you source that? I can't believe my waifu is described in that type of kino.

>>33523730
I guess I was speedreading at that part because I thought she was chasing after Koshka

>>33523746
It's the only thing I know to be close.

>>33523732
Does pic related count, if it's tied into Ciconia.

>>33523732
the PS3 port is genuinely just good overall desu.

>>33523732
Why is this upload so low quality

>>33523746
the Shin Megami Tensei series has "Maria", of course, it's Kaneko's later art style, not anything close to standard anime art.

>>33523785
It's not?

>>33523730
Vier's sensual wink just looks like she had a stroke

>>33523680
mary was 13 when she gave birth

>>33523761
I can't speak for Ciconia, I'm just going off my memory of what the other Anon described a few threads back but here's the exact quote from the Battler-Bern fight
>Of course, he wasn't capable of hitting her. Bernkastel was just like a shadow. She dodged by moving instantly and leaving an afterimage, but mere teleportation wasn't enough to escape from Battler's furious pursuit. True, trying to hit Bern was like enviously trying to hit the reflection of the moon on water with a stone. No matter how often you hit it, you can never smash the moon's reflection. However, Battler hit it. And again. Over and over. To prevent the moon from showing on the water's surface again. A fiercely thrown pebble sent ripples across the water's surface. It broke through the moon's reflection, broke through the water's surface itself, leaving even the bottom of the pond bare, breaking through everything.

>>33523771
Yeah, the poster brought that up and said while most people think that it could have actually been a timeskip.

>>/jp/thread/S33385901#p33407019
Here's the actual post, it's much more interesting than me vaguely recalling it lol.

>>33523535
I think they are Jestress' memories. The situation mirrors Satoko's in Higurashi. Her parents are killed, and then her brother. Her brother is specifically stated to still be alive, but unable to cry out. This person is Satoshi.

>>33523690
Interesting. I think Jestress shows her face to Toujirou at around the same time. Toujirou could be masquerading as blueMiyao and have sent a picture of it to him.

>>33523730
Miyao = Bernkastel? The warcats' logo has a black cat with a scythe, so I think her expy must be in that squad.

>>33523859
I think it's mainly because the scenes are literally back to back after seeing Koshka with zero pause in between them
I'll have to re-read that part though

>>33523859
That is just a metaphor don't think at all that has to do with that. Hitting a reflection on a pond is basically a trope analogy.

I love this pervert

>>33524032
bet her room smells like dried girl cum

>>33524032
Chloe's bagged milkies!!!!!!

>>33524032
I love bullying this loser

I'm not gay but the Miyao/Jayden interactions are so cute

>>33524101
same

Why doesn't anyone mention that Miyoko was obsessed with collecting /int/ flags and Ciconia connection? I have some weird vibes of Vier sending information to the past life self and the information is being mistranslated into these weird obsessions.

>>33524101
Miyao is barely a man, honestly

>>33524101
I'm not gay but I bet Miyao would look really cute licking my semen off his fingers.

>>33524166
Your seed dribbling down Miyao's tiny fingers..

>>33524101
Meow forcing Miyao to see and feel every sensation while Jayden's tongue slides in their mouth and Miyao trying to resist getting turned on

>>33523666
It's a very distant prequel about people who lived on the Earth many millions years ago.
They were destroyed by the some sort of oraganic machines in order to rewrite Earth's history and make it a home for new lifeforms.
Those who survived escaped Earth on the space ship.
On the ship they played simulations about future of the Earth.
That means also the birth of humanity and their lives.
That means also all WTC stories.
Those simulations are the prophecies.
Some parts of Ciconia are simulations from the computers of these ancient people.
Some parts of Ciconia are actually happening on the Earth in real time.
And also perhabs in some way the details about these simulations of the future somehow reached earth. Maybe machines simulated some shit too. Maybe some ancient people stayed on the Earth in some bunkers and shit. Anyway these prohicies were written in bibile and all this shit.
No need to thank me.

>>33524166
This, i'm not gay or anything but I think Miyao's throat overflowing with cum to the point where it's spilling out of his nostrils and he's having a coughing fit with tears streaming down his face would be very cute.

Can't wait for the shitstorm tomorrow

Just finished Ciconia
If phase 2 isn't announced tomorrow I will commit seppuku

>>33524237
Cute and funny.
>>33524440
Now read and listen Haworthia. It's directly connected to Ciconia and WTC.

>>33524440
Just do it now and save yourself the trouble

>>33524515
whats this music

>>33524675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uAZdIJIl8o
pretty old meme.

>>33524703
>>33524515
Can someone post that chuuni Potato image?

>>33524867
This?

>>33524871
Yes. What is the translation of it?

>>33524888
>I bear witness that there is no deity but God, I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God, and I bear witness that Ali is the vicegerent of God.

>>33523045
kino

>>33524888
The pleasure of preforming the Salat inside a Mosque

>>33524867
I don't know what image you're talking about, but here is a very smol potato

>>33524996
>>33524871
This.

>>33524922
Is this real? Sounds chuuni as fuck.

>>33525004
no that's the shahada

does anyone want to share some wanyadora hearts

>>33521900

Roughly translates to
Wasn't that really dangerous?! What if it had hit the other students?
Huh?
Huh?

>>33525213
russian subhuman hick cunt

>>33524922
whos ali

>>33525339
But she's not your mother, you forgot your schizophrenia pills again.

>>33525339
At least I don't have a cat mouth
You cat mouth

>>33525391
Muhammad ali

>>33525393
>>33525399
Peeling and tearing Koshka's burned skin from her stupid face and silencing her dumb hick screams by forcing it down her mouth

Why is there no koshka edit with the cat mouth

What's your go-to for falling asleep?
Melatonin only works if I actually want to sleep or else I can easily ignore it
Diphenhydramine HCl knocks me out easily but I feel like I have a hangover in the morning

>>33525425
You're too evil... and there is no love in you.

>>33525452
Crying

>>33525425
>>33525399
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

Behave retards

>>33525515
Can you cry on demand? I don't cry often but it usually just gives me a bad headache

No matter what happens tomorrow I still love my wife Lion

>>33525577
Well not on demand but definitely more than is any indicator of health. tbf it only does the opposite, I don't get how people cry themselves to sleep

tohya its time for your meds

>>33525452
Melatonin never fails personally, unless you’re super hyperactive in the 30-60 min window you have after taking it it should work

>>33525634

>>33525634
>no, the meds...they make me confused...my mind is hazed...who...who's Ange?
>it's no one, my dear. Please, be a good boy and take the meds ok?

>>33523175
Definitely.

>>33523771
>I thought she was chasing after Koshka
Can you explain this to me? I've seen dozens of people say this after finishing Ciconia and I have no idea why everyone comes to that conclusion. I'm not just saying it's incorrect, I'm saying there's is absolutely nothing in that scene that points at Koshka, and in fact the previous scene shows Koshka in a completely different location completely disarmed and on the ground.

Why the fuck does everyone think she's chasing Koshka? Why do you think this? I need to understand why you think this. It's more baffling than the "Satako" thing.

So are Miyao and Chloe the only ones who seem to have split personalities so far?

>>33526106
I remember jack shit about Ciconia but wasn't Chloe just a "I was just pretending" case rather than a split personality?

>>33525411
But Muhammad and Ali are both mentioned separately. Are they two different personalities of the same person? Is this a clue for Ciconia Gou?

>>33526124
I don't think we know for sure yet. In the fragment Chloe seems to forget going into "Chloevil" mode right after, but it could very well be one big farce from the beginning and she was entirely lucid when she kills the Lilja at the end.
Would likely cement her as being the mole for the 3 Kings.

>>33526124
I think the data fragments definitely imply it's a real split personality. Since Chloe claims to not remember what she was doing after Okonogi hits her and she returns to normal. But she could be lying of course.

>>33523961
EP8 keeps describing Bern as someone that "won't let anyone even step on her shadow unless she wishes it". This means she's untouchable except when Battler gets mad and punches her. And the person Jestress is chasing is described in the same way, this time more literally because she's trying to get away from her.

Although it's possible that she's chasing the Featherine expy, as implied by Gou. Apparently Jestress/Lambda was trying to find Featherine for over a million years worth of loops and somehow got stuck as Satoko and forgot her real self. This would fit with Jestress saying that she won't let the person get away because she's been drinking the blood of billions to make her wish come true. Why her wish is to see this person is a mystery.

>>33523898
I think Meow = Jestress = Lambda = Satoko

>>33526164
If we're going with brain-in-a-jar theory, I assume Bern and Featherine are different personalities living in the same brain. It would explain why Lambda starts chasing Bern and forgets about Featherine after Higurashi. In a way she's still chasing the same "person".

What this implies is that her chasing the Featherine expy and her chasing Bernkastel both point to the same direction. In which case she's probably chasing Seshat.

Why doesn't anyone mention that the quote between chapters that says "That day, that time is coming. Have you really been awake?" is a reference to Takano's grandpa saying that you must always be alert not to miss your chance when the day comes for God to reward you, and the bible quotes about how the man that was robbed should've been paying attention and yadda yadda.

Seriously.

Naima's super cute nostrils while she wears a nosehook!

>>33526124
No, that was Yasu.

>>33526203
Yasu's love is genuine. He's just into bisexuality and polygamy apparently.

>>33521086
.gg/Mb3Jp9sY

>>33526194
You wouldn't a potato

>>33526106
Miyao, Chloe, Naima, Rukhi and Mariana are confirmed and/or strongly implied to have alters. In addition, I believe at least Meow, Lilja and Valentina are under some form of brainwashing, although the evidence is weak. In theory each kette should have about 1-2 knights with alters.

The zombie 8MS ignores your real DNA and does what it wants with your body. It's like a second DNA that takes over. Apparently it makes you immortal to the point that you won't even die if you turn into a brain with a spinal cord hanging down, but makes it so your conscience is impaired to zombie levels (except pandora people) and your skin is all fucked up and covered in blisters and painful scars that won't heal because that's supposed to be its default state according to the faulty 8MS. It will grow back fucked up even if you cut it off.

Does this relate to God's sword of fire? Is it possible that Zombie!Naima has no ass because the 8MS ignores her humiliating human DNA?

>>33526252
Naomi is implied to have had an alter killed off after taking drugs for an experiment. They were probably troublesome and the scientists had it erased via brain damage.

>>33526187
So why the fuck did Jesus possess a bunch of pigs and make them fall of a cliff?

>>33521937
based i will wait for you to conquer for my my victory

Guys today i have lesson all the day so if i won today just wait for me

>>33523045
All of the Haworthia music is Ciconia music. Haworthia is literally just a discarded idea for Ciconia turned into a drama CD and set to music from the actual next WTC

>>33522483
You're a dumb nigger. You are the blackest fucking gorilla nigger.

>>33524440
We told you not to read it yet bro

>>33524440
This sprite just makes me think Miyao just shat his pants

>>33526559
More like Jayden forgot the lube

Anon's imoutos are so cute and yet! And yet! And yet!

>a new episode of higurashi is coming out on 3/4/21
I'm scared, what's going to happen?

Rika being pushed into a pool full of old man jizz and drowning in it

>>33521985
This poster is a crossboard tourist.

>>33526784
Vier will show up

>>33526784
Satoko will find out about Satoshi's state
Auau will finally reveal her name and she will tell Satoko what to do next
Satoko will somehow convince Takano not to carry out her plans because otherwise the next loops will be the GHD all over again.

>>33526475
Pasta la vista.
You lost each week.

Satoko satoko

Soon this weird disturbance will be over and we'll get back to prime vintage Satoko.
Last episode already kickstarted second bout of JC Satoko fanart. Soon the majority of new Satokos will again be JS6!

Every Satoko is a good Satoko

I love Satoko's casual clothes, everything she picks herself looks so cute on her.

The Saint Lucia summer uniform however doesn't do her body justice. It's just boring.
The only good thing is how she wears it, but very few artists get it just right. The feel of the shirt spreading out on her sizable backside. The desire lay your hands on it is simply irresistible.

>>33522381
You don't even need to bring up Episode 2. Hell, you don't even need to compare it to all of Episode 1. You could limit it to the just the first half of Episode 1 if you wanted. That's how poorly executed Ciconia's Phase 1 is in comparison. The first half of Episode 1, which is already shorter than Ciconia, develops the character so goddamn well. You can already grasp all their personalities and their motivations. You know and care for most of them and goddamn are you invested when the first day ends. The first Episode could have ended before the first Twilight even took place and it still would have been leagues better than Ciconia's headache-inducing slogfest.
Even RGD's Season 1, which I didn't particularly care for when I first finished it, is nowhere near as poorly done.

What if r07 made the characters in ciconia so blank and poorly introduced was because we aren't going to see them again? What if there is no loop or resurrection and they're all just fucking gone for good? Would you go back to sucking his dick? I would.
I wonder if that's part of what he meant when he talked about how it had a high budget and that's why the price is higher. He made all those characters, all their sprites, all those backgrounds, and only a few of them will be used past phase1. He's having to create a whole new batch of assets with phase2. The current cast will be wittled down to those that are actually relevant and he'll introduce a whole new batch of characters that matter, that have personality and get you invested.

>>33527254
Ciconia is not centered on this kind of storytelling dude, you just have to get over it. Stories about social conflicts over character conflicts are a go-to for writers at the moment because of how inherently anti-zoomer it is

>>33527254
I kinda doubt it. All that stuff at the end with Blue Jayden felt sort of foreboding, like it was already all over.
Plus we already lost major characters with a lot of mystery to them that needs solving, Gunhild and Lilja

>>33527254
That's pretty doubtful, but I won't lie, I didn't care about half the cast either and if it was gone next Phase I wouldn't mind it at all.

>>33527277
Ah yes, the walls of peace social conflicts. Can't wait for three more phases of it.

>>33527254
This is some primo Higurashikek cope

>>33527216
>>33527254

I suck at graphic design so I thought I would ask you guys who are experts on it, obviously. Where would you place that one winged eagle? It kinda looks out of place. I'm trying to get some slightly Umineko related art on my stick and since I'm not paying for it, I decided to do it myself.

>>33527399
It's an arcade stick so you don't really have any other options without squishing it

>>33527399
On the top, with the wing pointing down to the left
Also make it gold if you can, not just an outline

>>33523690
I think the chase and what she says during it is too dramatic for her to chase Miyao. Also I don't think it's physically possible since Jestress shares body with him.

>>33527423
you stop that

>>33527405
>>33527410
Aight. Maybe the outline alone isn't such a good idea so I'll do that.

>>33527254
That's some serious cope. Such an impressively bold action would be sick though. Even if it sucked and fell flat, I wouldn't ge able to hring myself to talk shit about it.

>>33527399
You're kind of limited to the left side with the eagle. Any other position would look off, and any other orientation would ruin it. Do make it solid like >>33527410 suggested though. i suppose you could experient though. What about enlargening it And have the stick go through the hole of the neck/wing? Or perhaps the wing tips going through each row of buttons? Finding a way to incorpatw the wings with the buttons might work nicely. Fluttering gold butterflies can fill empty space near the top or the side as well.

>>33527423
Trash

>>33527466
>What about enlargening it And have the stick go through the hole of the neck/wing? Or perhaps the wing tips going through each row of buttons?
Both of these I actually thought about, but the inconvenience of how the button layout is angled (which is more of an inconvenience than you might think because I tried to add some other shit and it didn't work for me either) and how there's next to no space at the bottom makes it harder. I'd like to preserve the design of the one winged eagle even if there's 2 or 3 different ones around. I think I'm biting more than I can chew there, but at least making it solid should be a priority.

I'm afraid to get into Ciconia because from what it seems, its one of those cases a writer just wants to push his political views first and make a grandiose commentary on current geopolitical events he (probably) isn't even qualified to do.

>>33527563
It's often misinterpreted as that.

>>33527563
Just read it

>>33525399
Shutup loser

The nazis are at it again.
https://twitter.com/AniMoonAnime/status/1367408223242883074

Featherine said that Satoko would be looping until her dream came true and she found the perfect world she wished for. Rika is the same.

This is the actual logic error that made Bernkastel into a voyager and broke her mind. The thing with Hanyuu giving up in the original story was a metaphorical logic error. This is the real deal. They will be looping forever without being able to escape because they are both loopers and their "happy futures" contradict each other. If Rika goes to St. Lucia, Satoko won't be happy and she will loop (whether she kills herself, dies by an accident caused by Featherine or simply dies of old age after an unfulfilling life). If Rika stays in Hinamizawa, she will feel trapped and she will also loop no matter what when she dies, even against her wishes.

>>33527840
Nah, we already saw how hollow Rika's desire to leave Hinamizawa was. It's not a character-defining trait.

>>33527840
>Rika is mindbroken and turns into Umineko Bernkastel
>the game ends because Featherine is tired of her mindbroken miko and her girlfriend turning the game into a lesbian guro doujin
>she releases them
>Lambda is still obsessed with Bern in Umineko and wants to trap her in Beatrice's game forever so she can be with her for all eternity
>Bern keeps saying she will fucking leave and fly off to the opposite side of the sea of fragments as soon as she gets bored of Beato's game
>This is what Lambda wants to prevent because she's Satoko and has a toxic obsession with Rika

>>33527863
It was deep.
Not hollow.
Leaving worthless hick village you’ve been stuck in for a century is just sensible.

>>33527863
She was tortured until she agreed. She doesn't want to spend any more years in that place, she's sick of it after so long.

If Satoko is such a lesbian, how come she doesn't masturbate to her own naked image on the mirror? She's a super cute rori and she's into roris, so why not?

>>33527941
What made you think she doesn't?

>>33527941
She find her own naked body in the mirror extremely cringeworthy and pathetic. Lewding herself makes her way too aware of the shameful nature of her human condition and the obscenity of her body, lowering her self-esteem and making her self-conscious in her day to day life and interactions with her friends.

It's not worth it. She's trading her own self-esteem for fap material. Of course she's not gonna do it.

>>33527941
Her body holds no mystery to her. She even knows the smell of her cuterori farts. It's not lewd at all if it's her own body, no matter how cute she may be for other people.

>>33527563
I don't like it at all so far, but I still recommend reading it. Don't bastardise it in such a distilled manner.

>>33527957
Imagine Satoko shlicking to her own image and thinking "damn, she's so hot", "what a pathetic butthole", "how can she live with herself", and suddenly cumming and feeling extremely pathetic because the ridiculous loli on the mirror whose humiliation she was using as fap material is actually herself.

>>33526093
It's probably because blueMiyao says to Miyao that he will kill Lingyi and Koshka in the future and since Miyao only kills Lingyi that leaves Koshka. IIRC the only two characters that we see shortly after Lingyis death are Jestress and Koshka. Jestress is probably Miyao and that is most likely why some think that Jestress kills Koshka, fulfilling blueMiyao's prophecy

So is Jestress a random GK that we never see? She wouldn't be in the middle of the ocean otherwise. She must be one of the soldiers sent to the war.

>>33527991
>implying Lingji died
Everyone is going zombie by that point. They can probably recover her head and it will be mostly fine with all the wounds healed by the nanomachines. Only without a body.

>>33527941
Imagine Satoko filming herself with a camera doing incredibly humiliating poses and acts, saying mortifying things, planning to use those tapes to masturbate later. Imagine one of her friends finding the tapes and taking them home. Imagine Satoko's despair when she realizes they are missing!

The triforce symbol was associated with the HOUJOU clan in ancient Japan. The symbol has its own name in Japanese and it uses the 3 and 4 kanjis.

Look it up.

>>33528053
>The symbol has its own name in Japanese and it uses the 3 and 4 kanjis.
>三つ鱗
No.

>>33528053
▲
▲ ▲

Can Satoko even Triforce?

>>33528089
Of course not.
She's a Houjou only in name, not in blood.

When Featherine said that "those who rule over us are cold of heart", she's referring to the AI that manages the matrix or maybe even to the "God" of the matrix Seshat mentioned.

>>33528072
>MI
>TSU
>YO

>Here's this world
>Actually it's a meta gameboard for witches
>Actually it's a story written by an author
>Actually it's a bunch of brains in jars dreaming it
What's the next layer?

Why are /a/ faggots so mad about Higurashi being a simulation? Are they retarded? As long as the brains in jars are REAL and are experiencing everything, it's as real as the real world. It's absolutely NOT the same as "fiction" or "it was all a dream".

>>33528149
Who even cares if some has-been author retcons his most popular work more than a decade later? Absolutely nothing has changed, death of the author.

>>33528114
Fuck off already.
https://jisho.org/search/鱗

How would you react if you get to 70 years old and it's finally time for everyone to become a brain in a jar and live forever in a virtual afterlife, but you are somehow judged to be "evil" by your SJW commie overlords and they plug you into the "Hell Matrix" so you experience a nightmarish dentist visit for the rest of eternity while other people get to meet their 6th grade loli crushes in the matrix and re-do their lives perfectly without mistakes in the "Heaven Matrix"?

>>33528226
Leaked hijab-less Naima sprite from Phase 2. She learned Japanese and you never will.

>>33528149
Because they have this misconception that matrixes are inherently fake and digital and there are glitches and 1s and 0s flying around. A perfect matrix would supply your brain with all the right inputs and be indistinguishable from real life, or possibly feel even more real than real life because you are not limited by your flawed human senses, vision/hearing defects, etc.

Higurashi being a matrix is cool as long as the characters never find out the true nature of reality. We could be in a matrix ourselves and never know.

>>33521738
She really loved big brudder

>>33528124
Actually it's my autobiography presented metaphorically in story form.

>>33527563
All stories are just writers pushing their views on to the reader, but no, Ciconia doesn't really make statements on current geopolitical events. There are references to stuff like Kashmir or Russia invading Ukraine but there's no real in depth commentary on it. It's just window dressing for the conflicts between the fictional nations.

>>33523392
You are trolling, and in a rather idiotic manner too.

>>33528328
Unironically based

>>33528357
Denying reality won't bring back all those artists, anon-shaaaaaaaawn.

>>33522791
next ryukishi vn is going to be nothing but lines of texts like this one

Are Satoko's clothes a coincidence?

What would you do if you had full access to Satoko's wrinkly brain in a jar and could control all her experiences like an absolute god?