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what does satoko smell like

>>33498179
Like Dogshit Canonically

>>33498318
based

>>33498179
Nobody knows because everyone who has been fortunate enough to smell her immediately reached L5 of the Satoko Syndrome and lost their ability to communicate with the outside world.

ANY WAY THE WIND BLOWS

W-Witches don't exist, right guys?

I'm on turn of the witch, what a ride

In 1-4, are there any murders that explicitly require Shannon and Kanon to be the same person? Using the information from 1-4 alone, could you reasonably conclude it's just Shannon with the servants cooperating and a family accomplice? I'm trying to think of something but I can't.

>>33504547
There's enough leeway for even Battlertrice to be undeniable, the red truth is worthless.

>>33504581
That's more or less what I thought. My friend is reading Umineko right now and has concluded that Shannon is the culprit after finishing 5. The whole switcharoo hasn't dawned on them and that just made me wonder how many people got that before reading 6 because I sure didn't.

>>33504640
It's just a matter of what you think makes the most sense/would be the most amusing. We're all witches of truth like Erika, "Truth" is whatever you want it to be assuming you can construct enough torturous logic to justify it.
My favorites are Jessicatrice(Jessica is Yasu), Kinzotrice(Goldsmith did it all), and Battlertrice(the Battler of 1986 isn't the real Battler and killed everyone).
Jessicatrice has real emotional appeal and makes me appreciate Jessica more.
Kinzotrice is hilarious as he jumps through several scooby doo tier tricks including faking his won death multiple times to whack everyone.
Battlertrice is a total inversion of the entire story and all it's themes, and thus a masterpiece of twisted logic.
Gohdatrice is probably the most retarded while still being totally viable, and it earns points for making small bombs canon.

The being who controls all the Keropoyo in Ciconia will be a stand-in for Beatrice. Just posting this here and now so I can gloat to you all later.

I finished Umineko 2 months ago, is it too early for me to read the manga?

>>33505114
Yes. Read the Bible instead

>>33504547
back when i was figuring it out i figured shannon was the culpritand the only one that i can think of thats hard to explain without them being the same is figuring out where kanons body went in episode 4

>>33505651
It seems _sierit has seen the light.

>>33505604
thats a weird way to eat yogurt

>>33503667

>>33498103
I hate this happy care-free couple.

Umineko By far has had the worst "good ending"
The Sickening twist that the main villain had held the protagonist captive all this time, and had ruined emotionally and mentally enough to not meet up with her poor innocent sister in need of comfort, and physically enough for him to get crippled (??? how is that even possible i do not get it) is just fucking cruel. Not to mention that she coerced tohya to write such disgusting tales that would end up increasing the pain in the heart of his poor cute little sister
Ikuko is such a disgusting character what did she do to poor battler

Umineko By far has had the best "good ending"
The sickly-sweet twist that the main hero had held the protagonist captive all this time, and had helped emotionally and mentally enough to not meet up with his fat disgusting loser sister in need of exercise, and physically enough for him to get crippled (it's amazing and possible with good sex, i completely get it) is just fucking amazing. Not to mention that she persuaded tohya to write such amazing tales that would end up increasing the pain in the flabber of his deserving repulsive little sister
Ikuko is such an amazing character what did she do to sweet battler

>>33506196
Ikuko is Yasu lol

>>33506196
>>33506251
>Probably actually hit him with her car in all reality
>Raises a boy toy who writes and and reads her fanfics
Pretty hot not gonna lie. She saw that alpha male specimen and hooked him.

>>33506196
Agreed. Ryukishi is sadistic. That ending wasn't bittersweet at all, it was disturbingly cruel. After spending her whole life without her brother, as a last FUCK YOU to Ange, Ikuko calls her to meet Tohya.

>here is your brother that I kept all for myself all these years
>he feels nothing for you and he's not really your brother anymore
>I hope this makes you happy

Just kick her in the vag already, why don't you?

>>33506502
>This story will not have a happy ending.

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>>33506451
>Hits a cute retard with her car
>Panics, realises she's never going to get away with this legally
>Decides to kidnap him and raise him from scratch as the perfect boyfriend who shares all her interests
she can't keep getting away with it

>>33506502
To be fair it was a bit more than that, it was to provide closure for all of them. Tohya and Ikuko so they could get at least a little bit of repentance for writing their fanfics, Tohya so he could secure his identity as Tohya instead of Battler and alleviate his guilt from being scared to not see Ange, and Ange so she could finally see her brother in some form (memories within Tohya). Then finally Battler's "soul" moving on to the afterlife.

It was a pretty bittersweet ending.

>>33506509
>I reject the red truth, magic isn't real, witches are not real

After saying this, Ange takes control of the company as the director, and as she focuses on her work on expanding the company and making a profit, she hires the best detectives to reopen the Rokkenjima case. One of them, Will, discovers the whereabouts of Battler-Tohya. Against Ikuko's will, Ange manages to get some time alone with Tohya and in a desperate, crying speech, she makes him remember everything. Ange and Battler live together as a family, managing the Ushiromyia Corp. Ikuko dies alone with her cat.

Fuck witches. Fuck magic.

>>33506576
Tohya and Ikuko fucked hard and long every night. The only thing that could get Ikuko to cum was more sadistic murder fanfics to torture Ange with.

>>33506563
Well, yeah that was probably R07's intentions, but the execution was so messed up that I can't say he succeeded.

>>33506606
I mean of all the things in the VN that are poorly and vaguely written in which R07 had an intention that wasn't reflected accurately, this is kind of blatantly stated outright.

>>33505791
I hope so.

Has Ikuko read Borges

>>33506620
No, anon, I don't mean it's vague, I mean the execution probably doesn't reflect the type of ending he was aiming for. Bittersweet, right? The problem is: It's kinda framed like Ikuko took Battler as her pet, bribing the doctors to keep quiet about him and not letting her sister know about it either. She guides him in the direction of her hobbies, writing, and basically uses this helpless, invalid, lost young man as her friend-lover-cowriter. It's stated how she was a weird rich loner, so it kinda fits her personality. Then Ange only meets Battler after they are very old. The only sweet scene is META (and as such, debatable). If you ignore the last meta scene, it's incredibly fucked up.

>>33506502
She also gave him a new identity and name without spending a single moment invastigating who he actually was. also paid the doctor to keep it a secret. Battler wouldn't have gone through the personality crisis had it not been for that evil bitch's deeds. Think how much more cheerful that poor cute innocent young girl's life would've been if her brother were around her.

>>33506685
I mean it's a fucked situation overall but I think you're falling too hard for the memes a bit here, Battler always had an interest in mystery stuff and Ikuko is literally a mystery writer. And the only person who didn't want to see Ange was Tohya himself because he felt like it would literally kill him by erasing his identity as Tohya and bring back Battler. The only thing Ikuko really did wrong was not try too hard to investigate who exactly Tohya was, which is a shitty thing but it's not like this evil woman tried her absolute best to hide everything from Ange out of spite, Tohya just had amnesia.

tohya isn't battler
battler is dead
he's just a guy ikuko paid to pretend to be battler just to fuck with ange

>>33506769
There is no way Ikuko didn't know Tohya was Battler from day one (or at least soon after). She's fascinated by mysteries and the Rokkenjima incident was international news. She just had to put two and two together.

>>33506810
I think it's entirely possible, as far as we know Ikuko doesn't start writing about the Rokkenjima Massacre as a work of fiction until Tohya gains his memories of Battler back, which is what allows their forgeries to be so accurate right? Being interested in like Agatha Christie doesn't necessarily translate into Ikuko recognising Battler's face as one of the eighteen victims of an unsolved murder case, especially if nobody else recognised him.

behold the best scene in all of umineko

>>33506916
This was such an adorable duo. Almost what UI is that, steam version?

>>33506900
On the other hand, bribing the doctor and keeping him isolated suggests that she knew.

>>33507007
When you gotta omochikaeri you gotta omochikaeri.

>>33507004
it's the wii u release

>>33507071
Oh yeah, the PS3 release

>>33506252
Ikuko is george.

>>33507007
Wouldn't that require her to know about the Rokkenjima Massacre before it was broadcast on the news and Tohya remembers shit?

>>33506916
Thanks for editing this texbox.

>>33506900
Had Ikuko just investigated who Battler was, Battler would have likely been returned to Ange and would have slowly gained his memories back and taken care of his cute wonderful little sister who only has him now. Battler and Ange would have grown old together with Eva taking over as a mother figure, hurting from the experience of losing their parents but realising the value and opportunity that it provided in giving them greater insight into the value of family.


instead she kidnaps battler and breaks his body (?????? still have no idea how) and mind until he turns into a crippling depresso that can't do anything but listen to that monster and help her in her stupid fanfictions

>>33507113
>>33507113
How mysterious, if only there was a prolific mystery writer with a large amount of money obsessed with Battler who happened to know about everything that happened on the island and knew exactly where Battler washed up on shore and who he was.
Too bad no such person 'exists'.

Do these runes translate to anything? I know the ones on the main screen are Revelation but like, you know

>>33507062
kek

>>33507113
It's not possible to hide a giant island destroying explosion from the public, even in the 80s the news wouldn't take long to spread. As far as we know, Tohya's visit to the doctor happened after Ikuko discovered his identity.

How can r07 be a lolicon and a homo at the same time?

>>33507148
without degeneracy it cannot be seen

>>33507148
Also A shotacon

>>33507156

>>33507130
It means "good appetite"

>>33507148
it means he has good taste

>>33507123
>Had Ikuko just investigated who Battler was, Battler would have likely been returned to Ange and would have slowly gained his memories back and taken care of his cute wonderful little sister who only has him now. Battler and Ange would have grown old together with Eva taking over as a mother figure, hurting from the experience of losing their parents but realising the value and opportunity that it provided in giving them greater insight into the value of family.
I unironically wrote this post a few threads back as a funny shitpost. I didn't expect it to be used in these threads later lol.

>instead she kidnaps battler and breaks his body (?????? still have no idea how)
Tohya says he couldn't bear with the guilt of his identity crisis and implies he tried to kill himself.


>>33507128
>if only there was a prolific mystery writer
Ikuko wasn't a prolific mystery writer at this point, at the very least she wasn't like well-respected and got her books rejected.
>obsessed with Battler
She wasn't obsessed with Battler, she didn't even know who Battler was at the time because he was passed out in the middle of the road.
>who happened to know about everything that happened on the island and knew exactly where Battler washed up on shore and who he was.
The reason why she seems to know everything is because she's using Tohya's old memories of Rokkenjima and its events and putting them into forgeries. Ikuko on her own doesn't actually know what went down other than what Tohya told her, and her finding Battler is described as pure chance and she would have run him over if he had been any more unlucky.

>>33507131
>even in the 80s the news wouldn't take long to spread.
Sure, but we don't know anything about the timeline of events or what the timespan of events are.
>As far as we know, Tohya's visit to the doctor happened after Ikuko discovered his identity
Do we know Ikuko discovered his identity though? As far as I know the first glimpse we get of Tohya knowing his identity is from his first person perspective from when the news is broadcasting shit about the Rokkenjima Massacre, and this happens after Battler is discovered and the doctor is bribed.

>>33507123
>>33506196
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>>33506576
these posts smell of saturated FAT

>>33507214
It's vague enough to be impossible to prove or to disprove. My arguments in favor of the ''she knew'' hypothesis are: it's the only reason to justify her bribing the doctors in the plot and the fact that mystery stories are her life's passion, so its only natural that she would be able to crack this mystery (it would be extremely strange if she didn't, in fact. Almost like a Chekhov's gun situation).

>>33507214
>She wasn't obsessed with Battler
A single woman in her 40s would not take in a confused, injured stranger knocked out on the road to her house, take him to her house, pay for expensive medical examinations, bribe the doctor to keep quiet, encourage him to live with her comfortably and take in her hobby and all that unless she, at some point, ended up obsessed with him. Come on.

>>33507254
It wouldn't really be fitting with the entire point of the ending where it's people coming together to genuinely express their heartfelt regrets at the suffering they've had to go through. Ikuko says that she realised that Tohya was Battler only after his memories started coming back and when she realised, she tried to set up a meeting with Tohya and Ange but Tohya refused. The ending is Tohya coming to terms with this and having the courage to meet Ange in spite of this and asking Ange to forgive his cowardice. Headcanoning this into the evil Ikuko lying about everything in the bittersweet ending because she was the secret mastermind behind everything, while funny for memes, is kind of a retarded take on what the point of the ending was meant to be.

>>33507281
She might have become obsessed with Tohya at some point after living with him because every girl and their mother wants to fuck Battler, but it wouldn't make sense at all for Ikuko to be obsessed with Battler by the time she discovers him because at that point Battler is a literal who.

Reality makes people stronger

>>33507326
As I've said a few posts back, Ryukishi probably intended for the ending to be bittersweet, just like you described it, with the characters coming together to redeem their sins and all that stuff, but since Ryukishi is a hack writer, the execution was terrible and the actual ending didn't feel like that at all, in part because of Ikuko's actions (but not limited to that).

>>33507343
Reality doesn't make anything for people. Reality exists outside of people, outside our minds, whether we like it or not, accept it or not. What we choose to do after perceiving reality is what defines us, but since R07 is a dirty relativist he believes we can ''create our own reality'' with '''''''magic'''''''', and he created a character like Erika to mock people who think otherwise.

>>33507366
But Ikuko's actions don't point to anything you're saying they point to, you're coming up with headcanon that Ikuko did something that's directly contradicted by the VN that directly goes against what's stated in the VN and the theme of the ending then getting angry at R07 for being a hack because of your headcanon.

>>33507385
Nope, it is a fact that Ikuko took a stranger as a pet and bribed people to keep it a secret. Things could have gone differently to Battler and to Ange if that wasn't the case. If anyone else other than Ikuko found Battler things would have been different. That's not headcannon, that's just a self-evident truth.

>>33507383
So you're saying that overcoming troubles and problems doesn't make people stronger at all and doesn't affect them and their mentality in any way? In my opinion, this is nonsense, overcoming obstacles in life, and sometimes coming to terms with reality (which you can't change in any way, no matter how much you want to) strengthens people to one degree or another.

>>33507412
Then in that case you literally agree with my original post where I said the worst thing Ikuko did was not investigate where Battler actually came from and this entire conversation about your headcanon of how Ikuko was a hidden mastermind has been irrelevant.

>>33507432
I've said nothing of the kind.
>What we choose to do after perceiving reality is what defines us
acknowledging reality and overcoming its problems is what makes people stronger and better. Denying reality is not really ''overcoming problems''.

>>33507444
She did more than not investigating, she made proactive decisions that made it way harder for Battler to meet his family and get help.

>>33507464
Okay, there's been a misunderstanding. I initially used Erika as an example and wrote "reality makes people stronger", because Erika accepted that her boyfriend left her, even though the scars on her heart remained. I also didn't say that creating reality with the help of "magic" is good, but to be honest escapism is sometimes the easiest way out of mental problems specifically.

>>33507507
But anon, Ryukishi clearly wrote Erika to be in the wrong, a pathetic loser that is ''obsessed with the truth'' because she couldn't get over the breakup. That didn't make her stronger, quite the contrary.

>>33507534
Seriously? It seemed to me that she accepted the truth about the breakup, at least the dialogue with Dlanor makes it clear, she said that love makes people weaker and clouds their minds, and to some extent this is true

>>33507490
Eh, I mean she almost hits him with a car and then immediately calls in a doctor to help him who she bribes to keep it off the record, before asking him questions. We know from the ending that Tohya ended up visiting many different hospitals for his amnesia and that Ikuko tried to reconcile Tohya with Ange, which he refused. Ikuko is a shit person in that she wasn't proactive enough in trying to return Battler but like by the time Tohya starts regaining his memories he's already begun thinking of himself as a different person to Battler.

>>33507579
In the context of the author's framing? Absolutely. By ''caring too much about the truth'', Erika turned into an intellectual rapist, the villain. She's cruel, sadistic, selfish, obsessive. If only her views towards the truth were a little bit more flexible, then things could be better...is what the author is saying.

>>33507579
How did you come out of Umineko where "Without love it cannot be seen" is repeated over and over again and think the message was
>love makes people weaker and clouds their minds

>>33507616
>but like by the time Tohya starts regaining his memories he's already begun thinking of himself as a different person to Battler.

That only happened because he went too long without treatment. Ikuko didn't hit him with the car, that's not the reason she bribes the doctor. Any other person finding Battler would lead to his reunion with Ange and him getting treatment sooner. Ikuko kept him for herself because of her own selfish reasons. Why do you think Ikuko is paired with Featherine in the meta world? A selfish witch that loves watching other people's drama and suffering for her own amusement?

fuck shouldnt have made that joke you niggas still arguing over it

>>33507671
Step aside, this is bigger than you now.

>>33507647
I just agree with Erika, but not completely. The context of conversation was about something slightly different, and not about the main message of the novel, i took a single case, buddy.
>>33507628
Just like Ange in the trick ending

>>33507671
Way to go Gavrilo

>>33507671
It's an actual Umineko discussion in 2021 and not even too passive-aggressive.
This is a rare fragment, please cherish it.

>>33507678
uwwwoooooohhhhhhhh... what is she gonna do with battora

>>33507647
Because I can see the other side to Erika.
If Umineko is "without love it cannot be seen"
Then Erika is "blinded by no love" and Beatrice is "blinded by love". Both of them destroyed their own lived and became terrible reprehensible people by choosing one extreme or another.
The real takeaway is "a moderate amount of love improves your vision" Too little and too much both blind you to reality.

Wait a minute, is Dlanor a gauntlet knight

>>33507715
I agree with you, anon, that's what I meant, i just couldn't formulate my thoughts into something unified.

>>33507710
You should not have impure thoughts, you're just a KID.

>>33507724
she is the original gauntlet knight

the great witch of PISS

>>33507724
The real question you should be asking is "Are Gauntlet Knights Archbishops in the Great Court of Heaven?"

>>33507742
why piss?

>>33507762
she's just PISS

>>33507665
>That only happened because he went too long without treatment
This isn't really established in the VN at all though, Tohya mentions going to multiple hospitals and they don't really know how to fix it and there's no real mention of like 'oh if only I went to a hospital sooner I would have been saved' type thing.

>Ikuko didn't hit him with the car, that's not the reason she bribes the doctor
I meant to describe the series of events, she almost hits him with the car and then she immediately calls up a doctor and then starts questioning him. It's not like she was just chilling and not really doing anything.

>Ikuko kept him for herself because of her own selfish reasons
Yeah that's almost definitely true, but again when you have Ikuko pushing Tohya to go see Ange and Tohya being the one that refuses, and Tohya going to the hospital and them not being able to do anything about his memory/identity problems I think it's shifting the blame kind of unfairly. Ikuko is definitely a shitty person who could have done a lot more, but she's not like a horrific kidnapper who refused to take Battler back to Ange because she enjoys drama and suffering.

>>33507762
>>33507742
The Witch of Magical Realms.

>>33507762
walls of piss

>>33507804
the pink hair ruins it

>>33507804
In my headcanon Amakusa lost an eye in battle, that's why the hair is always covering it.

>>33507810
It's the lighting

What red truth prevents Ikuko from being another, completely new personality of Yasu? Nothing shown to us in the plot prevents this theory from existing, and what Ikuko learned about Virgilia and Ronove when she wrote the 3-6 episodes only adds to this theory. No one except Yasu knew about Virgilia and Ronove, she only sent the first two episodes in bottles to the sea, where they weren't.

>>33507827
Amakusa's cool factor really is ruined by the fact that he jobbed to a bunch of fucking 10 year olds.

>>33507842
Not established or hinted at or shown in the manga.

Thoughts on Umineko's soundtrack?

https://youtu.be/rG7G-rvvhnk

>>33507762
japs cant pronounce the word piece it ends up sounding like piss

>>33507859
its ok

>>33507862
oh, I get it now

>>33507856
It doesn't matter. We don't even know how reliable the scene of Battler's rescue is (or if he even came out) - so the Sayo-Ikuko version is quite possible. Little is known about Ikuko's background, and no one knew her as a writer or something. Even Ikuko's life itself is similar to how Yasu might have wanted to see herself if things had turned out a little differently.

>>33507842
> and what Ikuko learned about Virgilia and Ronove when she wrote the 3-6 episodes only adds to this theory. No one except Yasu knew about Virgilia and Ronove, she only sent the first two episodes in bottles to the sea, where they weren't.
It's really a plot hole, i never even thought about it

>>33507859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OPZxQIgTF4
Most Great tracks play only once

>>33507903
didnt' battler mention "magic butlers" and killing many people (in different letters) when putting yasu on the boat?? they spent an entire night together they talked about alot probably

>>33507903
Maybe Virgillia and Ronove were not creations of Yasu, but of Ikuko?

>>33507923
Genji and Kuma's Parent Figure relashionship thing was only known by yasu

>>33507911
I have read seacats 3 times and don't remember ever hearing this track fully. It's really good.

>>33507932
If you know the rest of the story, you could easily deduce (or even invent) that part.

>>33507923
Prototypes of Virgilia and Ronove are Kumasawa and Genji, who even seemed to play along with Yasu in her childhood, perhaps even changing clothes, but i can be wrong, because I read umineko quite a long time ago

>>33507945
Sumiisan is too underrated. heard some of his stuff war replaced on the switch release. hope Path wasn't one of those

>>33507889
I mean it technically works in the same way any of the schizophrenic shitty theories work, they're internally consistent but ignore like important aspects of Umineko for the sake of forcing their theory. Like, Beatrice's regret at writing the message bottle murders in the Golden Land suddenly becomes completely fucking irrelevant as she goes on to write more message bottle murders that torture Ange and Eva, then she brainwashes Battler into becoming someone who isn't Battler for like shits and giggles I guess so that both Battler and Tohya undergo decades of pain for no reason, and then the whole plot relating to Confessions and Ikuko discovering it is just dropped, and the entire thing with Eva's Diary and Ikuko and Tohya getting ahold of 'the truth' and then making the decision not to reveal it to protect Ange was completely fucking pointless because Yasu knew it all anyway.

>>33507970
They are replacing music again? Music licenses and copyright is such bullshit.

Recommend me a VN with this feeling, please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHExskV7Oo

>>33508013
saya no uta

>>33508013
planescape torment i guess

>>33508025
Already read it, it's great. Anything else?

>>33508026
The RPG?

>>33508042
That's about the extent of the cosmic horror VNs I know I'm afraid.

>>33508061
it's ok, thank you, anon. I guess I'll read the Lovecraft short stories I haven't gotten around to yet.

>>33498103
Who even cares about cold, repulsive and arrogant fatty brat when you're with a nice woman like Ikuko? I understand Battler's feelings

Can i play when they cry games on the vita?

>>33508155
Ange just needs some sex to become a little more cheerful.

>>33508059
yes it's basically a novel

>>33508181
>Ange is a fat ugly loser so nobody wants to have sex with her
>She becomes more gloomy because nobody wants to have sex with her
>Because she's a gloomy fat ugly loser, nobody wants to have sex with her
The Cycle of Ange

>>33507974
I think it works as the canonical end for Black Beatrice, it all fits if she's pure evil and really did kill everyone on purpose and then brainwash Battler into loving her. Complete with torturing Ange for slighting Mariage Sorciere and Eva for insulting Shannon that one time. An utter vindictive bitch hellbent on revenge.

>>33508200
It's pretty obvious that none of that is the case though, just going by the general messages and themes of Umineko. R07 spends half of the novel jerking off about the human heart and love.

>>33508194
>Ange is depressed so she jumps off a building and becomes hamburger
>Bernkastel makes her into an actual hamburger and feeds her to an alternate fragment Ange
>Ange finds out about where the hamburger came from and jumps off the roof again
>Bernkastel makes her into another, fatter, hamburger and feeds it to the next Ange in line
>As the cycle repeats, Ange gets fatter and fatter, and the hamburgers get larger and larger

>>33508181
contrary to popular believe sex does not solve depression

>>33508194
I guess Amakusa didn't mind impaling her on his cock but she probably refused.

>>33508224
And he spends the other half telling us everything is an illusion and you can never believe what you see.
That interpretation is the worst fragment, and distinctly possible too. I bet Bern could actually find one of those if she looked for it. The Battler's Family Culprit fragment was a decoy bad end, it's actually quite merciful compared to how bad things ACTUALLY could have been.

>>33508249
Unreliable narration for the purpose of the mystery v fantasy theme doesn't equal all of the themes established in Umineko are just false.
>The Battler's Family Culprit fragment was a decoy bad end
Manga establishes it as canon

>>33508244
Amakusa sticks around until Ange is old but r07 says their relationship doesn't progress and Amakusa fucks off to the Middle East for a decade. So unless he's the biggest cuck in the world it's probably him refusing Ange.

nice.

>>33507945
>>33507970
It plays when George is proposing to Shannon.

>>33508457
That makes a lot of sense I usually fast forward that fat fucks scenes.

>>33508876
are you me

>>33508927
wtf are you a big tiddy maid?

Playing Super Slaughter Sludge Explosion Murder Dodgeball with Satoko!

I find it weird that reading Tsumihoroboshi there are so many segments with no BGM and no sound effects.

>>33509178
Yeah, I thought my shit wasn't properly patched.

>>33506802
Unironically makes more sense and would be a better ending.

Erikantrice Manifesto is finished

Manifesto: https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Higurashi VN solution:https://erikce.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=254
Latex: https://www.docdroid.net/lnzdHQc/erikantrice-manifesto-pdf

Erika is so powerfull that can read all the newspaper in only 5 minutes in a isolated island

>>33509450
based schizo

>>33509450
based retard

erika is jessica
i refuse to explain

>>33507647

>>33509359
This lacks love but I wouldn’t put it part Ikuko to troll Ange this hard.

>>33509952
Explain

>>33510161
uhhh
>she wears jessica's clothes
>she hates jessica the most for some reason
>smart while jessica is retarded
>flat vs jessica's big
>weird battler fetish
it's got as much proof at the italian!

Today I will remind you

>>33510161
erika doesn't understand how kanon got out of the closet

its the same as jessica not understanding kanon at all

>>33509355
Reading Umineko first has spoiled me. Higurashi seems to have like 8 tracks for chapter. Don't get me wrong, most are very good (some are just meh), but comparing that with the 200+ tracks of Umineko (most of them being amazing), Higurashi seems kinda cheap by comparison.

>>33510211
>>33510367
Flawless reasoning. I am convinced.
Jessica was evil all along and just pretending to be dumb.

>>33510359
I love this refined analysis of the flatulence experienced across the entire when they cry character base.
Truly an impressive ongoing piece of art.

>Tsumihoroboshi
>Rena gets pushy asking Kasai about Rina
>''tell her, Kasai. I don't think she's asking out of curiosity''
wow, Shion is actually very smart, she got the gist of the situation just with that and is trying to help Rena.
>''wow, whoever that is, I'm so sorry for him. Well, the guy had some fun with her too. I guess he gets what he deserved.''
Nevermind, Shion is retarded.

I wanna hear Rika burp.

>>33510698
Kasai points out Shion is joking.

>>33510763
No, Kasai says ''that's a bit harsh, Shion'', but by that point Rena already left the coffee shop. Shion didn't notice the man in question was Rena's father.

>>33507130
Yes, it also quote it, IIRC.

Has Ryukishi read Pynchon?

>>33510698
In the manga she seemed very facetious.

>>33510698
Should've told Kasai and Shion about the situation so that they could've helped like they did in Matsuribayashi-hen. Kasai could've probably scared Rina away from Rena's father seeing as how he intimidated Rina and Teppei at the cafe.

Rena DID want Kasai's help but had doubts because "I can't just rely on him", that always frustrated me. Girl, you knew your father's life was about to be screwed completely by this woman, surely cordiality can take a step back for a second.

>>33511638
well she was paranoid as fuck

>without love it cannot be steamed
Holy shit why didnt you guys post this, This is the most beautiful, masterfully executed umineko shitpost ever.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJHCUmIC8M&t=65s

>>33506252
>>33507092
Who the fuck is Ikuko? Auaurora?

>>33507974
>and the entire thing with Eva's Diary and Ikuko and Tohya getting ahold of 'the truth' and then making the decision not to reveal it to protect Ange was completely fucking pointless because Yasu knew it all anyway.
When Yasu became the white Beatrice, Shannon had her memories stolen about Yasu, and didn't know a thing about magic either. She remembered after being invited to the Golden Land in a dream. What if Yasu knew everything, but his Ikuko persona did not?
Personally I think Ikuko = 19子 = Yasu fits really well, especially considering the emphasis that is put on the number 19 during Shannon & Kanon's duel.

>>33506196
>had ruined emotionally and mentally enough to not meet up with her poor innocent sister in need of comfort
What? He's the one who decided to not meet her speedreader. He lost his sense of self, it's true, it can happen.

>>33511638
What do you get when you give them parasites to an already mentally ill person? You get Rena.

>>33511683
She wasn't at that stage yet, she didn't ask her friends either, she just felt she had to do this alone out of manners because it was a family issue. That's the big lesson from this chapter according to the afterword by Ryukishi, ask people for help if you're completely hopeless, especially professionals like Kasai who straight up told you that what Rina was doing is something that would get her fucked up if it was found out by her superiors.

>>33511812
>She wasn't at that stage yet
Really?

>>33511839
Yes, that that point she didn't think that asking others for help would be risky. Only after she committed the murders did that begin, for obvious reasons.

Petition to rename 北条 沙都子 to 豊穣 沙都子.

>>33498103
In the human world, how old is hachiko ikuko/featherine? Why didnt she age after the timeskip? Is she's a legitimate witch?

>>33511959
ange fucking dropped herself and everything after that was a tale woven by ikuko and tohya. imagine thinking she'd become a successful writer

>>33511638
Rena was acting super sketchy towards her friends prior to this scene and someone like Rika should especially know what that could imply (way before the syringe scene I mean). Her friends should have noticed something was wrong with her before the incident happened and intervened. Honestly everyone was acting silly and dumb in this chapter.

>>33511959
We don’t know.
Ange’s opinion is he looks far younger than she is.
That’s really all we know.

>>33512087
Isn't this exactly how people usually act in real life?

>>33511761
Ikuko is.

>>33512108
‘She looks far younger’

I wish Higurashi and Umineko were actual, physical books I could pick up and read.

leaked image of the next episode

>>33512157
why? you love physical books?

>>33512196
Yes. Reading on a computer is not comfy.

Try to not get mad tomorrow.

>>33512113
Higurashi characters are anything but like those in real life, Ryukishi07 himself states this at the end of Matsuribayashi about how they're far too dependable and close to each other which isn't realistic. They go to extreme lengths to worry about their friends, usually.

>>33512202
hmm, maybe get a tablet then stream your PC's screen to it?

>>33512242
>how they're far too dependable and close to each other which isn't realistic.
he says that it's unrealistic that being dependable and close solves all your problems

>>33512231
I am already getting angry, just in case.
>>33512244
That could work, but I need to get a tablet first

At least we can all agree we should get angry in advance

>>33512276
get one with the best resolution you can if you care about quality

>>33512267
He straight up says that asking said friends for help would cause friction in real life. In Higurashi it's the opposite, it's what solves problems, we literally see in the next arc that this is how Rena solved her Rina problems, all because she asked for help instead of keeping quiet.

>>33512367
If I want to read clearly, what resolution should I get?

>>33512393
Most will work, I think it rather depends on your internet because you're streaming
If your internet is bad you can also just connect the tablet with a USB cable, this will probably be better.

>>33512481
Thanks for the advice, anon, I'll look into it (probably).

>>33512393
1080p minimum, the larger the tablet the higher you would want to go for that resolution

>>33512231
Italianon will won to badly

>>33506523
GOD I wish that was ME.

>>33512565
P A S T A L A V I S T A

>>33511792
>especially considering the emphasis that is put on the number 19 during Shannon & Kanon's duel.
because they're 19.
Yasu being Ikuko doesn't fit well at all with any of the themes of Umineko. It's just pretty boring overall

>>33512752
Fuck off loser!

>>33512376
man I really prefer Shion's sweater from the Ryukishi sprite as a casual outfit over this ps3 one. at least her ps3 school uniform is pretty cute.

>>33512752
Battler was the tummytoucheranon ALL THIS TIME??? I kne*l...

>>33512986

>>33513014
I'd love to kick Rorienje in the head. Just take a few steps run up then catch her with the full force of my steel capped toe under her chin, send that little faggot flying through the air.
As he lies on the floor, coughing and wheezing and choking on her own blood, her jaw a mangled mess of bones detached from the rest of her skull, I stand over her and laugh wickedly. She looks up at me in fear and pain, her eyes searching, begging me for mercy. She finds none. I raise my boot then stomp down, splitting her skull like a melon and finally ending her pathetic life."

>>33513089

>>33513089
>As he
>he

How I would love to lock Rorienje into a lead-lined chamber with a lump of uranium-235 inside for an hour or so, maybe even more. I would get someone to drag her out and watch as she starts puking and stumbling over her pathetic rori leg-stumps dizzily, finally losing consciousness. I would then take her to a comfortable bed and impersonate a doctor - putting her to rest, pretending to look after her and ensuring her that she would get better. As the days pass, the disgusting little goblin will get worse and worse, vomiting, shitting piping-hot bloody diarrhoea and generally screaming in pain from her now burned and necrotic flesh, her internal organs failing and her chromosomes melting. But I would still lie to this festering imp and tell her it gets worse before it gets better. As she gets to her final stages of acute radiation poisoning, I will reveal that i lied to her the whole time and that she is going to die. The demonic pipsqueak starts bawling her beady eyes out as I let out a hearty laugh. She begs to be put out of her mercy, but I ignore her pathetic whines and start peeling her bubbling mottled skin from her tiny arms. The screams get louder and louder as I peel and peel, and I finally get some peace when I stuff the sticky, squelching flesh into her disproportionate rori-mouth. I get a bucket of her own bloody diarrhoea and rub it into her raw, exposed flesh, and finally close the curtain, turn off the lights and exit the medical room forever - leaving this satanic little munchkin to expire.

>>33511792
This is not convincing at all.

Bump for translation

>>33513405

>>33513365
Look at this tired retard.

>>33513425
Where can one find all those hilarious ooc quotes from the vn?

>>33513425
Thanks, Erika.

>>33512940
Someone pointed out that Satoko wears her school uniform exactly like Shion does, shirt untucked and higher skirt so that her thighs are visible, whereas all the other St. Lucia students do the opposite.

>>33513561

>>33498103
After reading the first episode of umineko, here is my general theory. I should note that battler being the mc is the only one i considered to be reliable as a narrator.

There were 19 people on the island, beatrice the witch is real.
Magic is also real (proved to be real in the tea party, just like beatrice), but wasnt used to kill anyone with the exception of natsuhi, that beatrice killed with a "mirror" kind of spell.
Hideyoshi, eva and nanjo are complicit with murder (hideyoshi and eva provided fake bodies and nanjo lied on the times of death, also means eva's receipt in the door trick is a lie, and explains the closed room murder mystery.). Shannon is the true culprit. (It easily explains kannon's death.)
I think its shannon because battler never sees her dead body, hideyoshi just affirms it.

It's funny how much more appealing as characters Gunnhilde and Chloe are compared to practically everyone else. For all that Miyao and Koshuka have their fair share of interesting questions being raised, I struggle to care about them as persons. Then the last chapter and post-end fragments go ahead and add bonus mystery points to the big tiddy team? That's just not fair Ryuukishi. How am I supposed to give a single shit about the extent of Jaydens homosexuality when he is constantly in close proximity to those two?

Can someone post that realization that Bern actually helped Ange by being harsh with her and that was the meaning for Bern being a bully and mean to her?

>>33513930
I didn't care for Chloe even after she got serious.

>>33513930
>Jaydens homosexuality
Headcanon.
Actual he was being a victim of gaslighting.

The Serene of Rokkenjima.

>>33513947
Bern ruined her childhood and adolescence.

>>33514015
Just like Rika did to Satoko. Looks like they truly are the same being after all.

>>33513947
You're talking about Eva hiding the truth about Ange's parents being murderers?

Limiter: removed

>>33514040
>>33514015
I don't remember. I know someone posted a paragraph around 3-4 lines.
Bern basically bad experience gave Ange the ability to actually move on from the family tragedy.

>>33514040
Bern sadistically showed that reality to Ange, twice. Though the second time was more so Ange's curiosity.

>>33514063
Sounds like a massive contrivance, made because either the poster in question was really bored or he wants to make Bern look good.

>>33513561
only fags tuck their shirts in

>>33513930
chestlets just can't compete

>>33514040
>>33514063
You can hide the truth about something from someone without ruining their early life and turning them into bitter angsty bitches in the process with severe obsession issues.

>>33514109
It's a school for fags.

>>33514109
but satoko is the gayest.

>>33514162
look at this dykewear.

Guys, what the hell, I thought even 1 more person was too much.

>>33514420

Satoko is eating

>>33514561
She is faking it.

>>33514561
Satoko grabs more food and keeps eating, that's why she gets tits and ass, as opposed to Rika

>>33514561
This means she shits.

>>33514187
Satoko wears whatever is comfortable, not what's "fashionable" or any such pointless crap. (But she still looks very pretty and dresses up for occasion, like we saw in tataridamashi!) I love Satoko's casual wardrobe in Gou. All of her new clothes being green/yellowish/white is a nice touch.

I wish we could see Hinamizawa in winter. There is no doubt in my mind that this image is literally Satoko vs disgusting fashion whores.

>>33514601
Poop is warm.

>>33514420
Oh wait it gets better. Just how many goons does this Beatrice woman has, and where does she keep them!?
WITCHES DON'T EXIST
man, this game is so good wish I knew about it earlier

>>33514626
>Satoko wears whatever is comfortable
>But she still looks very pretty and dresses up for occasion
well which one is it?

I still don't understand what the fuck is up with Beatrice. Beatrice speaks for Yasu at times, but also speaks for Kuwadorian Beatrice and speaks about Kuwadorian as being an event that happened in "her" past. Is the Beatrice who we see in the Question Arcs the same Beatrice by the end of the game who came from combining Chick Beatrice and Beato the Elder?

>>33514420
Making Asmo pregnant!

>>33514685
Without love it cannot be seen.

>>33514684
Satoko is always very pretty! She chooses casual clothes that are comfortable rather than fashionable. That's the point.

You can't blame a maiden for dressing up for a date once!

>>33514420
see >>33505604
also get the fuck out of here this is the open umineko discussion and there are some massive spoilers in this very thread

>>33514420
spoilers, kanon is gay.

Why does everyone want to fuck Miyao?

>>33514901
Because Ryukishi is desperate.

>>33514820
I'm straight
I wanna fuck kanon
therefore kanon is not gay

>>33514913
Desperate for what? For what??

>ah yes I've finally read through ciconia
>data frag-whatnows?

>>33514945
Now the good part starts.

>>33514754
Just how many loads would K1 have blown if Teppei wasn't around to ruin it

>>33514945
I honestly can't remember much about Ciconia, it was very forgettable. There was nothing to grip me or make me care about the characters. I didn't have these issues at all with previous WTCs.

>>33514996
all I remember was something something walls of peace
something about guiding humanity
something about chivalric orders
something about science and wisdom
something about nanomachines
something about brain factories
and that males can get pregnant, that's important for some reason.

>>33514996
I need to re-read it because I had the same issue as well. I can't remember half the characters or events. I'm hoping Phase 2 is different in that aspect.

>>33514978
Satoko ruined it.

>>33514996
I can't forget Chloe's fat tits. But yeah, didn't R07 say that he didn't want to return to the WTC universe for a while because he felt like his next game would be bland in comparison to Umineko?

>>33514978
>>33515086
Oyashiro-sama ruined it.
Nekodamashi is Satoko paying the price for her powers.

>>33514901
Okay this might be a stretch, but the whole silly "Marica" line really gets me thinking about how important Miyao's sex actually could be, from both a mystery and symbolic perspective.
I wonder if it's just as simple as "who was the virus" or "who was first".

>>33514124
>>33515100
That belt is starting to look pretty tight there, Chloe. Maybe you should lay off the Kiviak for a while, we'll be in big trouble if you accidentally suffocate yourself!

>>33515113
Will we hear a sngle auau in Gou? I don't accept it as a wtc entry if we don't.

>>33514187
Rika looks great.

>>33513587
I love Rika and her true friends.

>>33515229
Dumb Finngolian

>>33515234
Dead.

>>33515297
!Feathrine could do it?

>>33515234
Not hearing per se but there was an auau drawn on the chalkboard.

>>33515319
I WANT TO HEAR CUTE AUAUS AND I WANT TO HEAR THEM NOWWW

>>33515336
Hang in there! Emergency dose coming in right now!

>>33515304
Good if she does, but this may destroy her dignity.
Winners don’t usually auauau

>>33514996
I got EXTREMELY emotionally attached but I was abusing emotion-enhancing recreational drugs the whole time I was reading.
I got really into the more grand idea of the social institutions and factions within the world rather than the characters themselves. The exceptions to this for me were just Miyao and Toujirou though, with some honorable mentions for other Warcats + Grave Mole, Maricarmen, and Naima. I'm also a 34fag so of course I liked my two queens, but neither had anything going for them other than Vier's adorable personality/sprites and Jestress smug.
I was able to go through the lens of looking at the how certain ideas are held by certain groups rather than by the individual person (save for Miyao), and the general evolution of certain B3W (our) ideas, rejection of others, and death of some in the A3W world.
I viewed the catharsis in chapter 25 not as one of the characters, but more of the idea of the Walls of Peace and Order of the Public Bath's ideas being crushed by all forces, for reasons related to spite and manipulation by a group that adheres to religious scripture.
I will be completely honest, I was crying about twice as hard as I was during the magic ending, since there wasn't a shred of happiness in anything we saw other than perhaps whatever happened with Pandora's box in the epilogue, and the birth of Miyao made me break down crying from the contrast a second time but that just might be because je suis femoid.

>>33515354
Ahhh~
>>33515357
She has hip windows on her clothes, whatever dignity she had was thrown out the window the moment she decided to wear that outfit. Auaus now, !Featherine.

>>33515319
And it was drawn by the teacher who has the same VA as NotFeatherine.

>>33515410
I miss old Featherine's voice. I don't get it, if you're going to have a blatant expy that's hyped up to fuck and left as an obvious cliffhanger you might as well bring back her seiyuu.

>>33515410
What could this possibly mean?

>>33515444
Maybe it's a hint.

>>33514420
why would you play with the retarded sprites

>>33515448
I********n and yasu

>>33515459
About her not being 100% Featherine?

It's March 4th in Japan.

>>33515448
Hey man, you can't say that! It might be okay in COU Japan, we aren't there, and it's A3W for God's sake!

Is it possible to read Shion's full diary from Meakashi or Ryukishi didn't provide such an opportunity? It's mostly a rhetorical question, but i wish i could read all of Shion's feelings...

>>33514420
Install the voice only patch for the next episode. even if you want the original visuals, the VA is fucking great can't imagine enjoying umineko as much

>>33515481
I smell your falseflag.

>>33515489
Best day of the year is finally here.

>>33514685
You have to remember one thing.
Beatrice (the one who appears in question arc) is the result of Kinzo fucking his wife's child.
I'm not sure about the promise but I think Battler promised Yasu instead of Shannon? (not sure why it was her pov) but that's pretty much all you need to know.
Anything else is a delusion.

>>33515497
Shion's """""""""""feelings""""""""""""
>waaaaaaah waaaaaaaaah i'm a dumb subhuman foid cunt i'm just going to ruin everything for everyone because i'm such a dumb cunt

>>33515497
read the light novel, hope you know japanese.

>>33515503
meds. now

>>33515521
>i'm just going to ruin everything for everyone
She prevented the GHD.

>>33515410
I hope they use this Teacher/Featherine link for something

>>33515489
>>33515507
Can't stop winning 34bros

>>33515489
3/4 btw.

>>33515517
OK but I mean like in the meta sense, is the Beatrice of Episode 8 the same as the Beatrice of Episode 2?

>>33515534
Nobody hates the original sprites here, it's a mortal sin.

>>33515541
that's a bad thing.

>>33515569
Only retroactively, thanks to Gou.

>>33515553
There's one beatrice alive so yeah.
You can't really reason in the delusions world, there's no rules except the red/purple/gold truths to keep the game going, it's a clusterfuck there's no point.

>>33515553
No, old meta Beatrice is 100% dead. New one is a fusion between chick Beato and Elder Beato.

>>33515521
Too exaggerated, ma boi

>>33515564
Yeah but they're still retarded

>>33515564
I am ok with them both but PS3 Ange is better

>>33515609
no ur retraeaded

>>33515541
> GHD
who?

>>33515521
Is this a common take?
She's been my favorite since Meakashi since the look inside her head made her super relatable, pitiable, and forgiveable.

>>33515620
>no u
Concession accepted.

>>33515622
what

>>33515609
The post asked why use them though, indicating disapproval.

>>33515617
I think most of the PS3 sprites are better but original Ange's sprite works better I feel. She really feels like a bullied loser, whereas the PS3 Ange looks more like a calm composed rich girl.

˙ɐɯᴉɾuǝʞʞoɹ ɟo uʍop ǝpᴉsd∩ ǝɥ

>>33515642
Yeah because they are retarded? I'm the anon who asked that, anon are you okay?

>>33515647
Pic from Krauss' business trip to Australia.

>>33515643
enje...... do u want burgie from mcdonald

>>33515658
Why would you say "yeah" to a post indicating that nobody hates them, which contradicts the implication caused by your disapproval of using them?

>>33515680
burgie from mr ronald

>>33515643
Yes, PS3 probably destroys some of the character by making her look better.
But it looks better.

>>33515685
I wasn't using "yeah" literally, it's like something I use to start off my sentence, it should not be taken literally.
But okay let's say I did mean it kek.
>Why would you say "yeah" to a post indicating that nobody hates them
I agreed to his point that no one should hate them, that doesn't mean I agree they're not retarded. They could be retarded but also loved, these two things are not the same thing.

you're extremely autistic btw

>>33515755
If anything being retarded makes you feel more love because you probably wouldn't be able to understand more complex emotions.

>>33515744
It's better as in it's better drawn, but I don't think it's "better" as in it's like preferable over the original sprites.

You guys lack Satoko x Keiichi.

>>33515714

>>33515764
>If anything being retarded makes you feel more love
Dude can you even read? I never said that, I'm just saying implying they're retarded does NOT contradict with the fact that I agreed they should NOT be hated.

>>33515789
This is one of the happiest pictures I have seen in my entire life

>>33515774
This is up to the individual. I would always play with the newer sprites but I think Ange is a good example where the PS3 version actually makes her look too composed

>>33515789
satoko is gay.

>>33515789
I have seen the light. It's only a 3-year gap so I'm totally for it now.

>>33515780
I hate this easily bored witch of passive entertainment.

who is she and where does she appear
i can not find videos of umineko saku console version beyond the stuff that we already saw in the umineko ps3 release

>>33515798
>I never said that
Yes, anon, nobody said you said anything like that, I was the one saying it, I just expanded on that dude's thoughts, got a problem with that?

>>33515764
I checked and our most retarded poster (ital******) has no love.

>>33515819
ange's classmate.

>>33515642
>>33515658
>>33515685
>>33515755
>>33515764
>>33515798
peak autism

>>33515825
That one doesn't count because he's so arrogant, he loves himself more than anything, he can't understand hate.

>>33515819
Ange schoolmate
This is Kanoko Icecubu
She does some stuff to Ange.

>>33515832
her bio on the website says she's Jessica's classmate

>>33515820
Uhm then go tell HIM your thoughts not me? Why the fuck would you quote me when replying to a different person, or are you still unable to realize you're talking to only ONE anon not two?

>>33515807
>>33515810
>>33515799

>>33515799
Agreed. This also ranks up pretty high.

>>33515854
>>Uhm then go tell HIM your thoughts not me?
No, actually, I think I am going to reply to you, thanks.

>>33515852
okay why are you asking who she is if you knew already?

>>33515852
You are right but I will continue to say bad things about Ange.
I believe she turns up in the school scene when Jessica is pretending the furniture is her boyfriend
Later she shoves some ice cubes into Ange.

>>33515880
I really love her dynamic with Keiichi.

>>33515892
You're autistic, seek help.

Can someone explain the Gohda raped Jessica meme cant find anything on it

>>33515930
I am not autistic, but I am just a teensy bit schizoid.

>>33515942
Then you should still seek help. Schizophrania is a dangerous ill.

>>33515965
Schizophrenia isn't related to being schizoid, even if they sound similar.
I don't need help, my psychologist said it's normal.

>>33515939
Unfortunately this came out of Italia**** trying to justify some stuff. I can’t be bothered to hunt Warosu for it as I have to read his trash.
It was unintentionally funny so people kept using it.

>>33515939
This chef slander NEEDS to stop

>>33514941
Desperate.

>>33513252

>>33515983
Schizoid personality disorder is an uncommon condition in which people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others. They also have a limited range of emotional expression.

You are George.

>>33516124
Like I said before, I am not full on schizoid.
My range of emotional expression is rather large.

Ice cubes-senpai...

>>33506509
>This story
Ange's story isn't Battler's story.
Bam, red truth defeated.

>>33516145
I love the emotionally expressive anon

>>33516230
Thanks, I love you too.

At least we can all agree without love it can’t be seen

>>33515410
Source?

Does Ange have a nice smooth asshole perfect for shoving cold ice cubes up?

>>33516379
ask ryukishi.

>>33516392
who's ryukishi

>>33516407
your prom date.