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http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/post/3281455
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3306179
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3325496 (Died due to thread spam) ;_;

ParadigmShift Single (Thanks to the anon that uploaded it):
http://www.mediafire.com/?dmwmmm5zyom
Baldr Sky Soundtrack (Also thanks to the anon that uploaded it):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XQ7EFOI8

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>> No.3334205

True route will be Noi route
Sora can suck a dick, she likes cocks

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>> No.3334257

>>3334185
>>3334192
>>3334248
were the rest of 4komas ever translated?

>> No.3334269

>>3334257
There's another one but I can't upload it for some reason. (Getting Error: Upload Failed.)

But yeah I'm waiting for the rest too.

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the missing one

>> No.3334306

So judging by the comics, this game is moe shit?

>> No.3334316

>>3334306
No, actually it's awesome mecha action.

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>>3334306
Moe is never shit.

>> No.3334333

>>3334316
>>awesome
>>mecha action.

Good one, bro. So is it about moe or not?

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>>3334333
It's cyberpunk. Think GitS but with Mecha action.

>> No.3334352

>>3334343
>GitS but with Mecha
That's like saying: KOTOR in Space.

>> No.3334353

>>3334333
There is some moe. What's the problem, won't play a game unless it contains your PRECIOUS MOE?

Well, fuck off, go play those HoneyComing spinoffs/fandiscs or something.

>> No.3334365

>>3334333
It's a real deal game with no nonvirgin sluts and has NTR.

>> No.3334373

>>3334353
>>There is some moe. What's the problem, won't play a game unless it contains your PRECIOUS MOE?

No, this breaks the game. I only play manly games without moe shit, like MuvLuv Alternative and Sengoku Rance. You can keep your moe shit.

>> No.3334378

>>3334373
>without moe shit
>like MuvLuv Alternative and Sengoku Rance
๏̯͡๏

>> No.3334389

>>3334373
Both of which contain similar amounts of moe to Baldr Sky. Clearly you pick the wrong games to play. If you don't want moe, play utsuges, NTR and grimdark.

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>>3334373
Are you manly enough to not wear pants?

>> No.3334396

>>3334391

No, that's just gay.

>> No.3334397

>>3334373
>>without moe shit
>>like MuvLuv Alternative and Sengoku Rance
Stupid trolls get the fuck out of my baldr threads. It is holy ground, I'll fucking pruge you out bitches.

>> No.3334405

>>3334306
>>3334373
Get out. Now.

>> No.3334407

4coma translator-fag, finish the remaining scans!

>> No.3334436

Baldr threads have been the best threads on /jp/ as of late. Please don't troll.

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>>3334373
>MuvLuv Alternative
>moe shit
Seems like you've never played the game. I advise you to do it, it's great.

>> No.3334470

Please feeding the trolls.

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>> No.3334481

>>3334454

No, MuvLuv Alternative isn't moe shit. You must have played the wrong game.

>> No.3334486

>>3334436
>the best threads on /jp/ as of late
This isn't a Love Plus thread.

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>>3334481
Just get out.

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>>3334481
Quit strolling and play the goddamn game. It's better than Badlr Sky in my opinion.

>> No.3334547

Any chance of the games being translated in the next few years?

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>> No.3334558

>>3334547
About the same chance that you will learn japanese in the next few years

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>>3334539
That isn't saying much. They're both great games.
Also Baldr Sky isn't finished yet. A more fair comparisons would be Dive1 to Extra/Unlimited instead of Alternative.

>> No.3334572

>>3334547
Yes. If TakaJun likes Dive2, he might do it. If not, Ixrec might do it after Inganock.

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>>3334454
>MuvLuv Alternative
>moe shit

No.

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>>3334567
I got much more immersed with MuvLuv than Baldr Sky. Take for example chapter 10 when they're starting Ouka operation. Radhabinod giving his speech, Carry on playing on the background, rockets taking off, officers saluting, Yuuko seeing them off, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I also like Badlr Sky.

>>3334578
I get your train of thought. Guro == Not a moe game.

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>> No.3334717

>>3334672
they are just different. Muv-Luv is more epic while BS concentrates on characters past/present and has a gameplay.

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>> No.3334917

I like both, Baldr Sky and Muv-Luv, both are great and altough they have small similarities, they are in the end extremely different. and the ammount of moe and serious matter ratio in both are about the same. Muv-Luv has moe in mostly extra and decent ammounts in unlimited and alternative is almost devoit of it. while in baldr sky most moe comes from past school life sections and is almost non-existant in present. But let's not turn this thread to arguments of that.

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this probably doesn't even need translation to be understood.

>> No.3335252

So I downloaded Baldr Force EXE, how do I get to run in windowed mode? I can't find the option anywhere.

>> No.3335266

>>3335252
Nevermind, you need to set your desktop to 16-bit for the option to appear.

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>>3335022
this too

>>3335252
if I remember correctly, you have to set your color settings to 16-bit color, that way you get that windowed mode option in baldr force.

>> No.3335271

>>3334917
It's just like playing UL/AL with Extra flashback in the middle (which does happen).

>> No.3335449

How big is Dive1's script?

>> No.3335481

>>3335449
I've heard it's somewhere around 3mb, but it definately didn't feel that long, maybe 2,5mb would be more right, but that's just my opinion

>> No.3335503

>>3335481
3Mb is too much. Alternative's script doesn't even reach that size.

>> No.3335873

Well Script.pac is 3.5mb I doubt that's the real script size though.

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>Sybil of Dominion
I don't remember the game mentioning that as her name.

>> No.3336283

>>3336257

Basically just another word for Miko/Priestess.

>> No.3336293

>>3336283
Yeah, I just googled it. It's apparently the latin word for a female prophet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibyl

Still the game never mentioned that name, not even as a ruby text.

>> No.3336307

Random question.
Did they ever explained ingame why everyone do not age? Several years have pass since the school life period yet the character didn't even changed a bit. At the very least Nanoha and Makoto should've grown larger.

>> No.3336312

>>3336307
Asian + early twenty.

>> No.3336321

>>3336307
about Nanoha, I don't know, but with Makoto it could be that she's become wired ghost and they don't age in my knowledge.

>> No.3336343

>>3336312
That really isn't an excuse for Nanoha and Makoto.
Unless by several years have passed they mean 1-2 years have passed.

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>>3336312
That really isn't an excuse for Nanoha and Makoto.
Unless by several years have passed they 1-2 years have passed.

>> No.3336483

The world is one big MMORPG, that's why no one ages.

Dive2 ends with Kou quitting the game to sleep since he has class early in the next morning.

>> No.3336502

>>3336321
Didn't Renn age in Force?

>> No.3336519

>>3336483

For fuck's sake, don't spoil the whole game.

>> No.3336545

>>3336483

Oh god how I would rage.

>> No.3336655

>>3336483
Don't come spelling doom like that.

Personal preferences about possible endings.
Good: Something else but not which are soon going to be mentioned, most likely contains assembler haxing Sora and Makoto back to books of the living in the case they are "dead"
Decent: LOL RESET, everything is reseted to moment when Kou arrives to Saishuu and he prevents gray christmas from happening. Prefereably this happens later in fandisk, so you could have high school hijinks with whole cast, Rain included as it would continue through their whole school life.
DO NOT WANT ENDINGS: MMORPG end, Matrix end or anything similar .

>>3336502
I don't think that Ren aged during force at all, ofcourse I could be wrong.

And for those wondering about which route is best to level up weapons. If the weapons that you are leveling up combo well with each other, then chinatsus route is best, but if they dont, in that case Rain/Nanoha route is better for level up.

>> No.3336704

So I'm playing Force right now and the walking annoys me. Is there a way to make your simulcrum always on dash while moving like in baldr sky?

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>>3336655
>Decent
I would remember Baldr Sky as an elaborated MuvLuv ripoff with a few twists and gameplay if that happens.

Wakamoto always related.

>> No.3336717

>>3336483
It's sad that there's a developer out there stupid enough to think that this is a good idea. ;_;

>> No.3336733

CG set fucking where?

>> No.3336740

>>3336713
>MuvLuv ripoff
It's not like Muvluv is something original

>> No.3336749

>>3336713
KNIFE ATTACK DE ARRRRRRRRRRRU

>> No.3336782

>>3336740
I am aware that there is no real original content anymore. But please tell me another eroge that resembles MuvLuv.

>> No.3336804

>>3336782
Mechas vs aliens? Complex plot? Dyogrammaton, Zwei Worter.

>> No.3336841

>>3336804
Do they involve a missing main heroine that comes back in the latter part of the game, alternate/parallel dimensions, the protagonist having several different memories of one event, partial ends (routes in Baldr, UL in MuvLuv), etc.?

If so, then MuvLuv is a ripoff of those games you mentioned, I was just unaware of those games that came earlier.

>> No.3336914

>>3336841
The point is that all those are sci-fi stories that share some aspects but have others that are unique as well. Muvluv cant be considered the "original", neither Dyogrammaton of the Baldr series

>> No.3336929

>>3336782

Not a VN, but Starship Troopers. Except ST was fucking awesome in a completely different way.

>> No.3337000

>Muv-Luv Alternative
>moe

Thsi is the same troll as in the first thread (http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/post/3281455).).

>> No.3337803

>>3336914
Never claimed that MuvLuv was original. Heck, even the game itself has references to other sci-fi stories. "Soldier, Ask not", "The songs of a distant Earth", etc.

It's just that several important plot devices of Baldr Sky are very similar to those in MuvLuv, and it would be too much if they pull something like Final Extra to end Dive2.

>> No.3338256

What's wrong with being unoriginal?
As long as they can do it better than others I have no qualms.

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>> No.3338733

>>3337000
^_^

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79 days till dive2 and counting.

>>3337803
There are some similar plot points between Baldr Sky and Muv-Luv, but even then they are done rather differently. But there are a lot of plot points that are different between them and the general feel and plot are different, so they really can't be compared that well in my opinion.

For a bit discussion, it was mentioned in other threads that Sora is wearing military/mercanary uniform. So this kept me thinking why would she be wearing one and is she official member. Most likely scenario is that she by some weird reason survived, but not unscratched (maybe assembler resambled her somewhere but without her memories or something) and then some mercanary group picked her up and after that she has been with them as she didn't have else where to go. Some other but unlikely scenarios I came up (and bit of bad), is that Makoto and Sora might be somekind of undercover agents that were send to investigate Saishuu. Or another one is that Sora again survived somehow and has been trailing Kou, but not shown herself to Kou for some reason. Those two last ones were bit of bad, but in the case that she belongs to some group and that her hair ornaments have changed, would seem to imply that she survived gray christmas. As there wouldn't be need to change appearance if you are wired ghost or it would be rather hard to join groups as just wired ghost or something. So what are peoples toughs on that matter?

>> No.3339425

>>3339315
I can see two possible ways how Sora survived.

1. Due to Quantum Immortality, there's a world out there where Sora survived unscathed. I.e Gungunir missed all of Sora's atoms. Highly unlikely but not impossible. Only possible if they're using the Many-worlds interpretation of Quantum mechanics, which the Agent seems to be hinting. This also means that on all the other routes, Sora really is dead.

2. Assembler hijinks. See http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3306179#p3313821


I have no idea why she's in a military uniform though. At the very least she wouldn't be in GOAT (I doubt Isao would use her), Mercenary(Kou and Rain would have found her in the list) or an illegal mercenary under Gilbert (I doubt he can shut his trap about things like that).
CDF isn't military, Dominion isn't military. And I don't think its possible for Kou to somehow missed Sora if she joined Fenrir.

It's probably a new faction. Anti Integration perhaps? Isao keeps babbling about those yet we never see them.

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Do you ever get to fight against this guy and Makoto's simulcrum?
We didn't get to fight any of them in story mode, are they in survival mode?

>> No.3339775

>>3339765
No. You can see survival mode list in http://wiki.livedoor.jp/baldr_force/d/BS/%a5%b5%a5%d0%a5%a4%a5%d0%a5%eb%a5%e2%a1%bc%a5%c9

>> No.3339797

>>3339425
can't comment much on quantum mechanics as I don't know that much about it, but I prefer to think that starting point is the same atleast in all routes so whatever happened to Sora is the same, in which case I don't know how that possibility would help. that second one is much more likely to have happened.

Sora not being in GOAT, Dominion, Ark, Fenrir and CDF, I agree, as I doubt Kou wouldnt have heard of it and those places already have someone deeply related. as being in Anti Integration, it's most likely, as I doubt she would be in some random mercanary group as unofficial member, atleast she should be with someone we have already heard of (would be bad story telling if not). If shes with anti integration forces she could have been spy at Saishuu, altough Sora == Spy does not compute well with me. And then there's a chance that she is with Noi, ofcourse shes hiding so Noi wouldn't mention her to anyone (doctors pride and silence). Does Noi even know about Soras relationship with Kou & Co, because I dont think that Noi would know if it isn't mentioned, and altough she seems to have a lot of secrets she can't know everything. which could lead to Kou and Sora not meeting. As for uniform in this case, she could be borrowing Nois old one, as she seems to be linked with Eiji and all, so she could have one.

>>3339765
Nah, I don't think so, I think GIGA is saving them for dive2.

>> No.3340121

>>3339797
Did you forgot Rain's good end? Kou and Rain went travelling with Noi in that end to search for hints about Kuu. I doubt Noi would keep Sora a secret from them.

>> No.3340135

>>3340121
I remember them going to journey with Noi, but I dont remember anything about them searching Kuu. but maybe my memory is failing me, probably have to check it again sometime.

>> No.3340380

>>3340135
They're searching for hints about Kuu during that end while tagging along with Noi.
Sadly, I've overwritten my Rain savefile so I couldn't take a screenshot.

>> No.3340465

>>3340380
No harm done, I'll believe, maybe even double check it by playing it later, it doesnt really take that long to play rains route anyway as the battles are rather easy. But that theory is probably debunked now, unless then Noi is coward about telling those things, but I doubt that.

>> No.3340508

>>3339425
It could also be a combination of both.
The probability of Sora surviving but horrible disfigured is higher than her surviving unscathed. That coupled with the assembler fixing her back might be what happened.

To be honest I would prefer if all the routes have the same starting point, ie Sora is alive on all the routes. I don't like another HF where Zouken suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

All the routes up to now diverges due to Kou's action whether directly or indirectly. It would be shitty if they suddenly showed a military Sora battling stuff out of nowhere.

But still I wouldn't mind if Sora is dead all along on all the other routes except hers. After all Kou moved on with another heroine on the other routes.

>> No.3340597

I dont think they would stupid enough to bring something out of the nowhere and start it at that. considering how well everything has been done till now, there probably has been some hints where everything may start. Aki and Makoto routes diverging points are rather clear when they may start, only one which is a bit ? is Soras route, but most likely there will be some indications in the two routes before at the very least. I wish they would release the OP movie tomorrow along with some new CGs, those could give some nice hints how everything will go.

>> No.3340676

>>3340597
Dunno about that. The game has been hinting towards an MMORPG, Matrix or Simulation end based on the various stuff said by Agent and Dominion with Masa/Makoto/Gregory.

About the story divergence path, I'm pretty sure Aki-nee involves joining Fenrir and not betraying them.

For Makoto and Sora I don't know, but Makoto might diverge if you successfully make it in time to save Eddy, thus making you investigate the Dominion and immediately bypassing Anan and the NPC traders.

>> No.3340722

I don't get why giga makes makoto so obvious in the real world. The way she talks even with that stupid looking mask.

>> No.3340737

>>3340722
What's even more stupid is that no one recognized her.

I realized it was her the first time I saw her.

>> No.3340903

>>3340737
It's kinda funny how Kou recognizes Chinatsu, but not Makoto.

>> No.3340959

>>3340903
Well Chinatsu doesn't wear a mask.

This made me remember. How does the AI recognize your form in the real world? It's a hard logic in the net that what's your form in the real world is your form in the virtual world but how did the AI know your form in the first place? When Chinatsu tried to dive after the accident she only appeared as a brain. It's also the reason why Nanoha's brain in a can is stuck in a localized virtual reality.

>> No.3340998

>>3340959
I meant how Kou recognized chinatsu from her fighting style, but can't recognize Makoto from voice & look.

I think AI recognization of people is somehow linked to the state of the brain chip the second generation people have.

>> No.3341216

>>3340998
Hmm, you're probably right on both counts.

I wonder what's the story about Makoto's simulcrum? They met at the tournament right?

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>>3341216
Well, I got this weird idea that it's something experimental done to her because she is CEBD (or how that disease was spelled), most likely during her so supposed hospitalization. But I wonder tough, does Sora know about Makotos simulcrum?

On related note, I wonder if this silhouette of simulcrum is of Soras? If it is, it seems to be based of Shadow Wolf (Kous simulcrum) which would imply that she got it during school years. But when she could have gotten it? during the incident with Kuu which has been referred or for some other reason? But generally Sora doesn't seem to be of fighter type tough, so it could be also someone elses.

The others who it might belong that I can think of is Noi and Noitsuen. As the base is designed by Aki, she could have seen Noi fighting with it and decided to make something similar, as I'm pretty sure Noi has one, but hasn't shown it us yet.
Or it could be Noitsuens, as if I remember correctly Aki once hacked to midspires Baldr system which Noitsuen was linked with when she died. So there might have been data of it in baldr system which Aki got from hacking it and then decided make something based of it. we'll this ofcourse again is based on assumption that Noitsuen had simulcrum, but considering his status, I'm pretty sure that he had.

>> No.3341444

>>3340959
I remember the Chinatsu dived and linked to the surrounding equipment to see herself. And I don't understand your Nanoha question.

>> No.3341494

>>3341374
To be honest there's probably more about Sora and Makoto than meets the eye. Aren't they orphans? How were they able to afford enrolling in that university which is expensive. I might be misremembering stuff from other eroges but didn't Sora said someone's sending them money?

Also why is Makoto more than a match against various simulcrum like Cyborg Chinatsu? That didn't make sense, isn't she weak?

Also another one is Sora's hacking ability. She was the one investigating stuff for the group and apparently loves investigating stuff. She was the one that investigated Aki. She might have an awesome hacking ability too, and probably the reason why the AI picked her as the base for the terminal/Kuu. Or maybe she has CEBD like Makoto, which allows her to bypass security.

During a flashback we hear Sora talking to Noi apparently about Makoto's health. But why are they talking about that inside a tournament? I don't think that's the best place to talk about that kind of stuff. Why did they meet there? That's not really a place to consult a doctor with.

Anyway, yeah I think that simulcrum is Sora's. Probably customized by Makoto and Sora from the base Shadow Wolf. Maybe she joined the tournament in secret along with Makoto?

>> No.3341521

>>3341444
I never asked about Nanoha. I'm asking how the AI knew your form in the real world enough to duplicate it in the virtual world.

Chinatsu and Nanoha's case are the example I gave.
Chinatsu dived and saw her form as a floating brain. (That's how I remembered it.) While Nanoha can't live in the NET because she's only a brain and the AI would virtualize her only as that.

>> No.3341533

>>3341494
The Minazuki sisters aren't orphans IIRC.

Your real body has little to do with the wired world (if not, putting yourself in a FUCKHUGE cyborg body you would be invincible in a shumicram), and Makoto has the upper hand in the wired world, CEEB and all that (can ignore any security mechanism)

Sora gets information because she knows half the world and is friendly with anyone (in b4 slut).

>> No.3341543

>>3341521
You project it yourself. Chinatsu dived and saw herself half dead in the real world. Nanoha thinks that she's alive in the real world so she's "normal" in the wired world.

>> No.3341552

>>3341533
Hmm, are you really sure about that? If so it's only been a few days and I'm already misremembering details. ;_;

I'm pretty sure appearance in real world == appearance in virtual world. If not how do explain Nanoha stuck in a localized reality in her end? I'm pretty sure that's the reason Kou gave.

Also a simulcrum is different from your body. You can have a big cyborg body and it won't do jack shit in a simulcrum fight.

>> No.3341568

>>3341552
I remember some talk about their parents in Rain's route where you meet Makoto.

>Also a simulcrum is different from your body.
That's the point I was trying to make. Someone wondered why current Chinatsu can't beat Makoto..

>> No.3341594

>>3341568
Did she said they're both dead?

>> No.3341660

>>3341594
I don't recall anything like that. Someone needs to replay Rain's route and get get a clear answer.

>> No.3341728

>>3341494
I always saw it so that Makoto was so strong with simulcrum because she was CEBD and had experimental simulcrum.
In case Sora too has CEBD, I'd say its somewhat latent, as I doubt she would be able to hide it from doctors if her sister has it. And in the case she doesn't have CEBD, she pretty darn good hacker and doing good job hiding it, as she managed to hack into Akis private space, unless she got acces there because of Kuu.
As for Sora being in that tournament, I doubt it. She was invited there by Kou to watch I think and just happened to meet Noi there by chance. As I think that she doesn't know about Makotos simulcrum.

>> No.3341756

>>3341728
Sora could enter Aki's private space because she was following Makoto.

>> No.3341788

>>3341756
I don't think security work that way.
IIRC Makoto just disregards security, I doubt she had the capability to disable it to make someone else pass.

>> No.3341804

>>3341788
Dominion brought down the midspire's ice and chaos ensued.

>> No.3341811

>>3341804
Yes but that was present time Makoto. School life Makoto do not disable security, just disregards it. She said it herself, she doesn't takedown security she just doesn't see them.

>> No.3341837

>>3341811
It's the same. If the ice is a door, when Makoto is near it opens magically. If the door's open, anyone can enter.
Sora says it herself, she ended up in Aki's private space when chasing Makoto. Doesn't mention any hacking or ice blocking her path.

>> No.3341910

>>3341837
My understanding is that it does not work that way. To her, security doesn't exist, she can pass through any area. She doesn't change/disable/touch the security. She's like a ghost that can phase through a solid wall.

That's how it was explained, the AI does not see her as a threat so they let her pass.

>> No.3341919

>>3341910
Then Sora is a über-hacker? I'm not liking the idea. At all.

>> No.3341924

>>3341910
As an addendum
If her ability allows her to let anyone else pass there wouldn't be a need for that mindhack virus battle with gilbert during nanoha's route. She could just drop Kou behind the ICE.

>> No.3341985

>>3341919
Why not? It was somewhat hinted throughout the flashback. She likes investigating stuff. First is when she first met Kou she investigated him immediately. Then she tried and found leads during the Aki incident. She was also participating in the class and can answer Mother's question perfectly. At the very least she wasn't portrayed like Chinatsu or Nanoha which sucked at class. She might even be an honor student like Makoto.

Also isn't it mysterious that the AI picked her as a base for their terminal? She must've some special ability. If she's just a normal person, why her then? Heck maybe she has the same ability as Makoto, they're siblings after all.

>> No.3342026

>>3341985
It's a possibility, but it doesn't fit her personality. She likes hanging around with people and helping them. And to hack an ice is not an easy task at all (current era firewalls are a piece of cake compared to an ice). It's like saying that the cool and popular kid at high school is a master hacker too.

It was Aki-nee's decision to make a Sora simulacra. Then Seira took an interest in it. I doubt Sora had inherent abilities but we still don't know.

>> No.3342046

>the AI does not see her as a threat so they let her pass.
More like the AI can't enforce that piece of logic to her.

CEBD = Cybernetic Ego Boundary Disorder.
People with this sickness can't seperate from the net. Symptons manifest differently between patients but they all bend some logic of the net in one way or another.
..Or at least that's how I remembered it.

>> No.3342097

>>3342026
By simulacra, you mean Kuu?It was not Aki's decision, she simple made the base program, the actual AI chose Sora as the "form"

>> No.3342102

>>3342026
No, All Aki-nee did was create the NPC generation program, the AI used it and picked a person to base upon, which is Sora. Seira saw the resulting NPC and was impressed by it. Even Aki-nee was surprised when she first saw Sora at the dorm.

Speaking of Simulcra, Aki-nee is dead set on not wanting to create any new one. I wonder if something happened?

>> No.3342127

>>3342097
>>3342102
I stand corrected then.

>> No.3342160

>>3342127
It's ok, I dont think there is a single person that can remember all the small details of a script like Bladr Sky one

>> No.3342171

>>3342102
Probably the incident with Kuu, which true nature we dont quite yet know, cause her to hate simulcras.

>> No.3342207

>>3342171
But what really happened? She's really apologetic and sounded like some big tragedy/accident happened and doesn't want it to happen again. Maybe Kuu died early?

BTW when Kou first met with Sora, didn't she said she used an Agent to find out the details about Kou? I distinctly remember her mentioning Agent.

>> No.3342258

>>3341728
Nah, Kou and company was surprised to see Sora there. And then when Nanoha invited her to the spectators area Sora said she was meeting with someone and passed. Which means she was really meeting with Noi there and not a coincidence.

Noi being Makoto's doctor somewhat stinks. Isn't she an illegal doctor? Why the hell would Sora entrust Makoto to her and not to a hospital? Hell their place of contact is dubious, why a tournament fight of all the places in the net?

>> No.3342286

>>3342207
That's what kinda have been saying here, I believe that the whole incident with Kuu lead to following things to happen: everybody learnt about Kuu (everybody seems to know her, but we havent seen how they got to know Kuu), Kuu died (it all happened before grey christmas), Kou and Sora falling in to love as Sora orginally wasn't love with him (maybe Kuus memories and feelings towards Kou get transferred to Sora when she died), gave everyone small emotional scar (not wanting to speak about it to Kou who lost his memories), as added bonus, maybe even Sora got her simulcrum during that time. Thats what I personaly at this point believe.

>>3342258
OK, maybe I remembered it wrong then. As for why she would meet Noi, maybe because hospital couldn't cure CEBD, so she had to find another methods and while searching Sora stumbled on information about Noi and Noi made the meeting there at the tournament.

>> No.3342297

>>3342286
>Kou and Sora falling in to love as Sora orginally wasn't love with him
The game implies that Sora was already in love with Kou. Kuu only has Sora's feeling, so if Kuu loves Kou, Sora loves Kou too. Kou specifically asks that (to Aki-nee I think).

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>>3342297
Hmm... probably right, maybe Sora was just unsure of her own feelings and Kuu had no confusion about that. As first it seemed that Sora and Kou were just friends who later fell in love, thats how I saw it. But in the case that Kuu shows Soras true feelings, wasnt she then bit too quick showing them, as Kuu seemed to have those feelings even before Kou saw Sora. But then again I remembered this pic, I wonder what it was all about, dont tell me Sora was waiting Kou even before she knew who he was?

>> No.3342402

>>3342380
That pic reminds me.

Maybe the being known as Sora doesn't exist in the first place and it's just AI feeding them data. During that scene IIRC got a some static and then a headache, then saw Sora at that tree and then when he looked at the tree again she's gone.

>> No.3342419

Well, I think that █████████████████████████████████

>> No.3342430

>>3341216

About Makoto's simulcrum.

I think it was a present from Noi. In Chinatsu route at the tournament, Sora breaks off from the group to take a call from someone(you can tell it's Noi from the text color) talking about how "it" is her best piece of work and that she is giving it to Sora. Sora then says she has a gift to give to Makoto and walks off.

Of course I could be misinterpreting this scene, it wasn't very clear.

>> No.3342441

>>3342402
Dont go saying sad scenarios like that, but it's kinda weird but possible and now I'm getting weird ideas again about other possibilities like: AI creating "illusionary" existance of herself so that she can learn about human emotions and love (and she just happened to choose Kou for it), ofcourse real endig would contain assembler hijinks that causes Sora to become real person. Or another idea, maybe Sora and Kou were "programmed" to fall in love as a test how much AI can influence human mind (okay, that was bad). both are kinda cliched, so I really hope that they dont go that way with the story.

>>3342430
another scene that I needs to be checked more closely, I think....

>> No.3342449

is this really worth playing?

>> No.3342456

>>3342449
nah, its shit

>> No.3342466

I can't help but wonder how many people are actually posting in these threads.

Also, WALLS OF SPOILERTEXT

>> No.3342467

>>3342456
kk thanks

>> No.3342470

>>3342449

Pretentious shit.

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>>3342449
well, it's most discussed untranslated VN here on /jp/, heck it gets more discussion here than some translated VNs even, so draw your own conclusion from it. It also has delicious Noi and Rain and Sora and Makoto and Gerogory and Shizel and Kou is kinda good protagonist in my opinion.

>>3342466
hmmm.. I think theres atleast 6 different persons in these threads posting. and we dont want to spoil it for those who want/are playing it, thus black bars everywhere.

>> No.3342495

>>3342466
It's just wild speculation most of the time.

>> No.3342885

>>3342495
But, speculating is fun, when you dont know the whole story yet and it's nice to see if anything hits correctly, when it's fully released.

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