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RikaFuru/RikaFury are the same person?

>>3327197
gb2 0000 ari red fast, or even better 3p fast

woah
nowadays we do reach bumplimit daily...
you're awesome /jp/

>>3327209

Ｎｏ　ｌｅａｒｎ　ｔｏ　ｐｌａｙ　ｃｏｒｒｅｃｔｌｙ　
ｆａｇｇｏｔ．

>>3327215
>>3327197
lol u mad?

Who ever is in the 4p game with me please stop taking 5 seconds per turn.

learn to play fast, but do learn to be able to wait for others too, or you'll be dead in the danlobbies.

They can tell if U MAD and idle intentionally.
srsly. don't get frustrated by such a small thing.

I don't play much in 7447 because getting a game take so long but is it really that bad?

>>3327265
no
not really

>>3327197

I wish I knew who you played as, so I'd wait exactly 13 seconds to discard each time.

wait, your all done already?

>>3327251
But I thought you can use it as a tactic.
Wait a long time then discard then people will think hmm, he took a long time to discard this tile, he must be on a variable waits.

>>3327214
Well with school up and running, it's rare a semi busy thread pushed off page 10 anyway

>>3327312

You can, just do what you want. It's 10+4 seconds, if these faggots can't handle it they can idle in Ari Fast rooms.

How about you faggots just go play japs instead of sitting in 7447 waiting for millions of years to get a game going

Seems like you care more about the other /jp/ players than the actual mahjong game

When you play in 7447 and the one who declares riichi disconnects, what do you do?

1. discard your dangerous tiles as fast as possible.
2. Take all your 4 seconds for each turn until he comes back.

>>3327345
1

>>3327345
Question. If you clicked auto ron/tsumo after you riichi,
when you disconnect, will you still auto ron/tsumo?

>>3327345
i would probably be one of those fairplay idiots who do number 2

>>3327366
>when you disconnect, will you still auto ron/tsumo?

No, didn't work for me.

>>3327345
1

>>3327366
you turn auto agari on in your client, not on tenhou.net
it doesn't know you wanted to win.

>>3327396
>"You wanted to ron on that haku for daisangen? How should I know that! I thought you were going for shousangen honitsu."

>>3327412
funny, but tenhou is not that sweet...
it would say: "I don't care! Buy the windows client!"

>>3327412
funny, but tenhou does is not that sweet...
it would say: "I don't care!" Buy the windows client!

>>3327439

>>3327493
>>3327439

http://tenhou.net/0?log=2009090901gm-0007-7447-x4dadd39beb2e&tw=1

Damn tenhou always gives me a good, sometimes even iishanten hand from which I can't advance until someone else wins.
So many hands go to waste.

Phoenix Room game about to start, watch and learn:

http://tenhou.net/0/?wg=72B7773C

>>3327587
What's a Phoenix Room?

>>3327601

7dan R2000+ paid players.

>>3327601
It's a lobby when only 7dan (maybe 6, not sure) and above can play, and only if their R is 2100 (maybe 2200) or greater.

>>3327587

IM SUCH SLOW DISCARDS WHAT FAGS FFFFFFf

Yeah fuck you >>3327197 >>3327215

>>3327587
just observe the speed
can you say that I'm slow after that?

>>3327623
If you play at this speed, you're not the player people are complaining about.

>>3327587
Nerigoma just threw away the chance for a sanshoku from his first turn on...

2 yamiten and 2 doubleron
fuck

I wonder why east threw the 7pin.

He obviously knew it wasn't safe when he took a long time to think before discarding it.

>>3327690
It was one of the most tense discards so far

lol only a 3han hand what a noob

lol haitei

what the hell they play with red fives

>>3327711
Seem like only "noob" go big hand onry.

The noob just got another yakuhai win and is iishanten for tanyao for the closer.

what are scorings in a phoenix room like this?

>>3327558
That happens a lot to me.

what hand did South go for in South 4? couldn't recognize any yaku after the call

>>3327729
higher dan people play mostly only in ari red tonnansen or ari red fast tonpuusen

wow those guys are good

>>3327739
http://tenhou.net/man/
+60 points on a win, +30 on second, +0 on 3rd, points are at least -90 for a loss (7dan and greater only).

So losing in the Phoenix Dan room is rather devastating. Rate is calculated normally though.

>>3327761
that's for tonpuusen
they played tonnansen
+90, +45, +0, -135

>>3327761
I should rephrase; losing at all is devastating. Playing in Phoenix is the only realistic way to gain points to offset any losses you suffer.

This hand probably decided the game.

Pretty sad for the dealer when there is 3 1M in the wall.

just rewatching akagi and came to this point ... Is the Translator note bullshit or why do they call the 6m and 8m like that when they don't fit the definition? (even though it's still a Kan Chan wait and thus counts for that Shan Ten counting stuff)

EVERYTHING IS IN JAPANESE

HOW CAN I PLAY THIS SHIT?

>>3328040
Not funny.

>>3328018
Maybe he's waiting for the 7man, so it's highlighted as a possible set?

>>3328040
チー chii
ポン pon
抜き nuki; pei／北 multiplier for 3-man games
カン kan
暗カン closed kan
明カン open kan
加カン extended kan; late kan
ロン ron
ツモ tsumo
リーチ riichi
一二三四五六七八九 <- manzi tiles one to nine

Can't help you if you are too stupid to learn them.

Don't go breakin' my tenpai, don't go breakin' my, don't go breakin' my..

Bump for some 1 rounded red ari

bump

It feels like I'm the only person that has to spend ages building up his hand whilst everyone else gets lucky as fuck draws every turn whenever I play.

One more for Ari East-Only.

play faster, guys

Why would you do this when you're not east, what a douche.

>>3328987
Looks like he did the right thing.

>>3328968
Seconded, while I'm certainly not the fastest in 0000, most people in 7447 are slow as hell.
Especially the ones playing both rounds.

>>3328924
It's not just luck, it takes skill to determine what are statistically good waits, and how to adapt and stuff.

>>3328987
Because he is now dealer and has a 1000 points lead.

fuck yeah

>>3328987

why not? it's the first hand of the game and there's not a whole lot else he could have done with the hand aside from trying to play it closed or going for honitsu or something dumb like that. I don't think it's a mistake to win a hand unless it's near the endgame and you need to make an upset.

>>3329088
How in the blueberry fuck...

>>3329088
hahahaha oh wow.

>>3329087
>>3329099

I know, it's more of a whine since I felt a big hand coming

>>3329122
and it was only the second hand of the game

>>3329088
>2 U-dora created by your kan, giving you the Kazoe Yakuman

Cool sand bro

Just because I think it was a funny turn of events, what would you discard? I'm posting how this hand ended just after.

I'm sure you didn't expect that.

>>3329178
South

In hindsight this was stupid, huh?

>>3329351

You could have gone for tanyao, but ippatsu would be worth the same in the end anyways.

It is like I am really Saki!

Finally won 1game after 4games. Finally reach 2kyu.

Goddamn, everytime I'm one tile away from a chiitoitsu, someone deals into another player's hand.

>>3329407

Chitoitsu isn't great anyways. Since you can't call on tiles you have to rely on your own luck and hope you don't miss too many pairs or you'll never get it in time. If you do get it, it's barely worth any points unless you have the dora as a pair or riichi and hope for tsumo or uradora, which locks you into an otherwise great variable wait. It's a fun yaku that you can use to target tiles that people are likely to throw out, but it's not really worth it unless you don't have any other options.

>>3329380
Too bad there's no lightning bolts, explosions, dark swirling backgrounds, and flower petals flying all over the place when you get rinshan.

1 more for ari red tonpuusen

tanoshii

#mahjong@irc.rizon.net

>>3329566
herp

R.Pawn you dorabomber you!

>>3329351
this is the regular flash version? why is it different color D:

wtf is up with those draws

>>3329566

derp

Oh wow, that match went really well.

jeez that was a shitty game just now

>>3329407

could be someone tunneling other player's hand. had that happen to me quite occasionally. i had a daisengan setup ready to win just to realize someone was holding on to my tiles.

Who is all these japanese rank players?

It is like I am playing in 0000.

>>3329982
Hi.

i screwed up so bad last round...

bad read bad read on the ponds!
cost me a win.

>>3329982
Probably just anons using Japanese names.

Hey guys, let's go to a World Mahjong Tournament and show them our Akagi/Saki skills.

>>3330121
I better practice my "flick tile into the air and slam it onto the table" tsumos!

>>3330127
I can see some idiot trying to do that and knocking all the tiles over after slamming it too hard.

>>3330127
Don't forget the tsumos that land on the short end of the tile.

>>3330237

don't forget the tsumos where you don't even look at the tile you draw

not posting a picture because that's pretty much every tsumo in the whole show

>>3330322
Protip.

If you play with real tiles long enough, you will know what tile you drew just by touching.

>>3330332

the back of the tile?

>>3330354
Obviously the front of the tiles.
You wont feel anything with haku.
Round shape with pin.
Rectangle with sou.
and etc.

Protip: Don't discard white if someone pons red and green.

Also isn't shousangen 4 han?

>>3330487
2 han + 2 from the respective triples

It is unacceptable to ron/tsumo when you're in fourth place with a hand that cannot move you up in the rankings. Stop doing it.

nothing much we can do about stupid players...
it all comes to who can build their hands the fastest.

>>3330533

Oh right, I thought it'd just be merged into one.

this was 2 days ago.

>>3331225
Good to see I'm not the only lazy enough to declare a riichi on that.

>>3331496
Just click all 3 buttons at the bottom left and save yourself 1000 points.

>>3331627
bottom right, I meant.

bump

>>3331496
I always declare riichi on monster hands. Makes other players think they aren't.

Bump

What would you discard? I have to learn to pay attention to the ponds while still playing for a win and not only when i'm playing defensive

>>3334224
3m and 4m seem like a safe tile. He look like he is waiting for 1,4,7p or the lower sou or honor tiles.

I could be totally wrong and he is on a single close wait.

>>3334224
chun, because defense.

btw how do you close the hands of other in the replay?

>>3334252
Player -> first on/off option under the player names

>>3334224
should add that it was a tonpuusen and thus the last round of the game for all those who arent happy with second place

>>3334263
yeah. I learned to read that.

still, my choice does not change. chun.

>>3334224
chun

I got 4 Winds Mah Jong off the internets and am trying to learn to play. There are about 20 rulesets built in...Which rules do shows like Akagi and Saki follow? In terms of asian rules, I have a choice of Chinese Classical, Official, New Style and Transitional; Japanese Classical, Modern, Transitional; Hong Kong, Korean and Taiwanese rulesets.

If I want to follow the games in those shows, which should I be familiar with?

>>3334280
Japanese Modern

1 player needed.

Yami ni Furitatta Tensai

>>3334267
wasn't specifically meant for you, just in general, since i think most (including me) didn't know where it stands/how to read it (and only saw your post after writing that one)

but yeah Chun would have been the obvious choice, but i didn't want to give up that hand even if it meant i would need some crazy luck.
Couldn't decide between 4s and 4m and should have gone with 4m because it was safer thanks to those discarded 7m.

In retrospect i think i should have discarded either the 3m or 4s to keep both pairs alive [and even then i probably would have done this] since i needed the Yakuhai from the chun or a dora (both +riichi) to be able to win with a direct hit and everything together to win by any other players discard.
In the end it was foolish to think that i would have to luck to become first with that hand

god i hate it when i have a promising hand and then keep on drawing honors and terminals

>>3334335
Give up that hand?
That pair of chun is what dragging you down.

Imho you can discard them for defense and for the chance to reach silent tenpai (pinfu maybe even tanyao).
It's still early in the round. The chance that your toimen has a shitty wait is fairly high. You could easily get a wait that makes your shimocha deal in without the fear of dealing in that riichi.

Do you seriously like to wait for a single yakupai?

I'm not saying I play perfectly. Not at all. I only say, in that situation waiting for someone to deal that single chun is desperate.

>>3334429
And I hate to win only with 1-2 han hands. It makes me look like I troll you with my shitty kuitan hands, and makes me vulnerable as well against a well placed mangan.

>>3334524
>Do you seriously like to wait for a single yakupai?

not at all

>I'm not saying I play perfectly. Not at all. I only say, in that situation waiting for someone to deal that single chun is desperate.

And i'm just a newbie presenting his oppinion, getting corrected is actually what helps me most in such situations

But for Pinfu i would have to draw either 2tiles that make an edge wait before i go into furiten for it or another Pair.
But a Yamiten Pinfu Dora 1 wouldn't have been enough to win even with a direct hit would it?

Going for a Tanyao would have been the other possibilty because i needed the dora for it and such it would have been 3 han without the riichi, but i would have also need to draw another Pair or possible Straight/Triple.

Seems equally unlikely to me, so i guess it depends on the mindset of the player, but since the whole thing already needed almost perfect draws the safer tanyao variant would have been most likely better

>>3331496

Because the Pei was the only tile left, I was hoping someone would toss this out as a safe tile. So declaring a richii was required to camouflage my hand and i had some draws left. Got a Tsumo instead.

>>3334622
Yeah. you would need perfect draws but in 4 tiles you could have (with perfect draws of course!!!) tanpin aka 1 dora 1, if you tsumo it's a mangan, if you riichi it's a mangan. With both it's a haneman.
If you can hit your shimocha you won.

It's another thing that we now know that east's wait wasn't really that bad.

I seriously don't know what I could say anymore that's not complete bullshit to discuss this even further. colon uppercase P

>>3334724
but it's good to know that tenhou is a sadistic asshole

>>3334732
Why are you complaining.

You got an awesome sanshoku tanyao pinfu going.

>>3334740
not complaining over the current hand, more the "lol you wanted the chun last game? now you get them all!"

So, has anyone made a tier list of /jp/ mahjong players?

>>3334797
get out
now!

oh come guys stop dealing the dora after someone is in riichi and it wasn't played yet

>>3334806
It is too late. Already the seeds of doubt and fear and sown. "What if I don't make the cut? What if I'm SHIT TIER in some random losers eyes? What will I do?!"

>>3334797
Fuck off back to /a/.

>>3334815
still...
A tier list?
That's the worst idea ever.

somebody asked for a tier list?
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/mlist/7447-4.log
hf arranging them

>>3334855
that's full with mojibake

Goddamnit, I just played on 0000, made an awesome comeback from last place only to deal into the guy in last place's riichi and end in 2nd. Fuck this.

>>3334855

Guessing one has to be registered to show up there, correct?

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/mlist/7447-4.html

>>3334908
why the hell does it work when i open the link here, but not when i click on it on arcturus?

>>3334224

4 man. The dealer's riichi is unlikely to be among the manzu. Even if it was it felt like 4-7 wait and he just dealt 7. The point leader is not afraid of the manzu, which is encouraging.

4 man will turn dangerous towards the left (Was it shimo or kami?) in the future, better deal it now.

The riichi is probably 1-4-7 pin (since it isn't 3-6 pin), 4-7 sou or 2-5 sou in that order of dangerousness. With 2-5 being safest to deal against.

I would still deal 1 pin and 5 sou, if I got 4 pin for a riichi. Without 4 pin I would deal the chuns. Besides the point leader is going for end tiles, the chuns are hard to collect.

Then again, I just don't like third place, which is a realistic possibility with, which makes me too urgent here. A more defensive strategy (dealing the chuns) is probably correct.

>>3334920
Because only the ordered list isn't working.

The link you just clicked leads to another (working) file.

>>3334855
What is the number left of the rating for?

>>3334964
Your whatever it's called. 11 is 2dan, 12 is 3dan etc.

>>3334920
It isn't working for me.

>>3334905
registered and you need to have a rating different from 1500

>>3334985
I'd like to correct that.
iirc 新人 R1500 is filtered out

That is quite a lot of players in 7447.
Wonder how many there really is if we take out alt accounts.

>>3334991
>>3334989
Does anyone know if it filters out inactive players after some time or are they kept forever?

>>3334991
I can see 3 of my alts and my new main there...

oh you bastards, what happened after it? kept having disconnects right after that discard

>>3335225
You might as well have riichi'd.

no comment, should have called riichi for a draw because i kept having disconnects after that discard and dont know what the fuck happened after it

>>3335229
3s and 9s were safe so i thought i might give it a shot

+1 for are red tonnansen

>>3335012
What is this, WoW?

I don't know why but I always do this...
Shoot me!

1:0 3p 4p fast
Slow bastards need not join.

>>3335690
I just rerolled ari red, nashi is just too weak.

>>3335698
I don't see any problem with that unless you wanna throw your 8m and be in a furiten wait for 5m.

>>3335690
I just got the 100wins and yakuman achievement.

Feels good man.

>>3335828
I just finished discardragon, I discarded 6 dragon tiles in a row. Hardest achievement ever.

Where the fuck are you fags?

Bad games.

Guy to the left has autoriichi with 4 ura dora within 3 turns.
Guy to the right has auto yakuhai and 3+ dora and calls every shit he gets.
Guy to the front is .... just there
Get in tenpai during 2 riichi often enough, but can't ron or tsumo.

>>3335820
Nope... cut 5p and add riichi + pinfu and possibly ippatsu(3 sided wait) to the yaku list.

You never watched Super Zugan?

>>3335932
Like this?s

>>3335960
what the fuck

>>3335960
almost, but you hat a 2 sided wait with that.

I can play an east round of anything you like.

>>3335960
Oh god, greedy luck.

>>3335932
Still think 8m discard would be a better all or nothing hand.

sanshoku + red 5m and uradora can easily bump it into a baiman.

>>3335981
had*

>>3336008
sigh... yeah... and I fuken tsumo'd for 2han...

This should be pretty useful for people that don't know about honor tiles dora sequence.

How the fuck do people spontaneously decide "Hey, I'll go for a big hand!" Do you magically call on lady luck to wish dora into your hand or some fucking bullshit? How do you people fufidcfiudhgoidhgiufdhgurg

One more for Ari Red.

>>3336106
Calculating the statistical probability of getting that big hand.

>>3336034
Thanks, this might be useful.

If you guys are complaining about people playing too slow, SIGN UP FOR THE FAST-TABLE QUEUE.

Playing slowly is a sign of deep skill and intellect.

stupid leaver but otherwise nice game

>>3336106
It all depends, really. One of the main factors is your starting hand; if you know your yakus and you think that you can assemble one of them based on it, then by all means, go ahead. You're best off trying to go for higher scoring hands later on in the match (even more so if you want to cause an upset.)

Looking for players.

>>3336224
Your starting hand and first draw can give you a clue, but you shouldn't base your play on that. See
>>3329178
>>3329196

Sometime, you just play and transform your hand.

>>3336248
This.

Unless your starting is hand is very good, but if you just got some garbage random tiles here and there always go for pinfu.
With luck and good draws you can get the combination of pinfu,riichi,tanyao,ippeiko, sanshoku or doras.
Easily a mangan.

>>3334797
Good Tier: Anyone 6 Dan, R1800+
Shit Tier: Everyone on 7447

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2009091004gm-0009-0000-bd37596d&tw=3

I seem to win more in L0000 than I do in L7447.

Oh man, was playing really well until one of the last matches where I dealt into a 12,000 point hand while trying to play it safe, which I don't usually do. God, this game is great.

>>3336699
Missed Koku Shimusou.

>>3336699
>>3336789
I think he would have a dai san gen if he kept all his dragon tiles.

>>3336789
>>3336797
And he didn't even get anywhere near a useful hand.

>>3336810
Because he threw that 7. Otherwise he could have aimed for nagashi mangan. (nagashi mangan as the dealer is a bit risky though)

>>3336699
I feel I messed up during the whole match.

Someone should make a new account with the name "Yakuman" or something who does nothing but shoot for yakuman hands. Or perhaps just Kokushi Musous.

>>3336824
>Or perhaps just Kokushi Musous.
32 draws, you need 13 differnt tiles + 1 double.
Sounds like a bad plan, since you are prone to deal into someones hand, if you always deal those 4, 5 and 6.

>>3336824
>Or perhaps just Kokushi Musous.
32 draws, you need 13 different tiles + 1.
Sounds like a bad plan, also since you are prone to dealing into someones hand, if you always throw those 4, 5 and 6.

goddamm, shouldnt be greedy i discard the 1p

>>3336872
it is always the 1p

As a part of teaching myself mahjong (and introducing myself to wonders of javascript), I wrote hand calculator (since I couldn't find any suitable for my needs around). It works in browser and is completely client-side -- if you like it, you can download and use offline. There are probably some bugs and inconsistencies, and it lacks some options yes (there are no ways to change rules for example), but it's good for a beginning player like me to study which hands bring what score.

Link to web page: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/mj/mahjong.html
Link to offline version: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/mj/riichi-calculator-0.1.rar (extract somewhere and open mahjong.html in browser)

It works in firefox and chrome and maybe opera (not tested) and doesn't work in IE.

As a part of teaching myself mahjong (and introducing myself to wonders of javascript), I wrote hand calculator (since I couldn't find any suitable for my needs around). It works in browser and is completely client-side -- if you like it, you can download and use offline. There are probably some bugs and inconsistencies, and it lacks some options yes (there are no ways to change rules for example), but it's good for a beginning player like me to study which hands bring what score.

Link to web page: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/mj/mahjong.html
Link to offline version: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/mj/riichi-calculator-0.1.rar (extract somewhere and open mahjong.html in browser)

It works in firefox and chrome and maybe opera (not tested) and doesn't work in IE.

>>3336872
and in English?

>>3336892
I'm very new to mahjong; I really am, but can there be round winds other than east and south?

>>3336886
>round wind
>position wind
>is dealer?
Why do you need to ask that?
Also, it apparently doesn't work out multiple yakuman like
- dai san gen
- suu an kou tanki machi
- tsuu ii sou

Still, great work.

>>3336898
Should have went for close 2p wait.
Can't type properly, still in game before some faggots complain i am slow.

>>3336925
http://www.ofb.net/~whuang/ugcs/gp/mahjong/mahjong.html says yes (6.5 GO WEST, 6.6 GO NORTH)

>>3336926
I need to ask these things because they affect exponential...

And about multiple yakuman, I was making this thing work according to http://www.ofb.net/~whuang/ugcs/gp/mahjong/mahjong.html, and it says that may yakuman at a time don't mean thing. (3.1.5 Special (yakuman) Hands)

I'm going to add options in future revisions, and that will probably include special yakumans.

>>3336962
>I need to ask these things because they affect exponential...
You can deduce from the player wind, if he is the dealer.

>>3336987
Er, well, I could, but it's easier to ask

I love how tenhou always give you big hand that you cant complete.

Just call me Saki Miyanaga.

Maybe a little late for some, but happy 9 day!

I hate how I keep coming back despite getting absolutely destroyed 3 out of 4 times whenever I play.

God, there are never enough players during nighttime europe.

>>3337856
I am gonna quit tenhou to play all my backlogged VN.
Train up all the new saki fanboys please.

I wish the next time I play there won't be any leavers and faggots that call every tiles without yaku.

>>3337856 nighttime europe

What time is it for you? ~2:00 AM?

>>3337824
Same here bro; shit is frustrating.

>>3337872
Yes, exactly 2:36 AM

>>3337871
I'm going too, I have to finish Cross†Channel.

NoName was here
DMG is a LOSER

>>3337955
After being destroyed by コベル, you can't really brag brah.

>>3337986

I'd like to review that hand but tenhou is freezing up whenever I try to access that part of it. I'm convinced I was holding 3 other dangerous tiles at the time.

wow did 7447 lobby die or something? it's so empty! D:

>>3336892
I found a scoring error. I put in a kazoe yakuman hand, and even though it correctly counted 13 han, it only valued the hand at 24,000. I tried posting a screenshot, but my connection sucks.

Fucking ragequitters, I swear to fucking God.

gg though Ikprop, you and I were head-to-head.

>>3338249
Isn't it correct? Limit for 13+ han is 6000. Multiply this by 4 and you get 24000.

lookin for some players

>>3338611
Nope, a yakuman is 4x limit. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_scoring_rules
for all the info you need. Also, for anything under the limit, you can use the formula [basic point = fu × 2^(2+han)]. It should be easily implementable into the calculator.

>>3338672
It kind of contradicts http://www.ofb.net/~whuang/ugcs/gp/mahjong/mahjong.html (where 13+ is sanbaiman). Is one of them obsolete?

>>3338691
Yes, the ofb.net scoring chart is out of date. Here are the current limits:

5 Han - Mangan (1x limit, or 2000 basic points)
6 or 7 Han - Haneman (1.5x limit, or 3000 basic points)
8, 9, or 10 Han - Baiman (2x limit, or 4000 basic points)
11 or 12 Han - Sanbaiman (3x limit, or 6000 basic points)
13 Han - Yakuman (4x limit, or 8000 basic points)

Hope this helps.

>>3338718
Thanks, I'll then use wiki page for reference.

One more for ari red fast.

>>3338071
It tends to be much fuller in the (USA) afternoon than the (USA) night.

>>3337220
Except for the fact that you're losing.

i was hoping for a last tile draw to cause an upset but it didn't happen this round as i ended up tsumo at the 2nd last draw tile. had to settle for 2nd and missed 1st by 2500. so close. :(

>>3338783
I actually did win the round in the end, but I just thought that rinshan kaihou was kind of neat. Somehow it doesn't come as easily to me as it does to Saki. Shocking, really.

>>3338718
What is the limit for two or three yakuman?

>>3338861
Double Yakuman is a house rule, usually not used in tournaments, and it's 8x limit. A double yakuman is usually scored only through some outrageous circumstance, such as having a 13-sided wait on kokushi musou, or a 9-sided wait on chuuren poutou.

>>3338903
That too?

> If the winning hand can be interpreted as different forms of rare hands, multiple yakuman points are awarded (for example, all hands are concealed, contain only four triplets of direction tiles plus a pair of dragon tiles as eyes).

>>3338917
The Sega networked mahjong arcade games stack yakuman, and it's also popular in non-tournament real-life games, but I've never seen a pro tournament that stacks yakuman, mainly because a single lucky hand could end the match immediately, especially if they're playing under hakoten rules (where the game immediately ends if a player's score goes negative).

>>3338942
how much did he cheat for that hand?

>>3338691
>>3338718
The difference is probably the 2 base exponential, would explain the difference (6-7 -> 8-9; 8-10 -> 10-12; 11,12 -> 13+) and that ofb doesnt allow a counted yakuman

>>3339053
while everyone was watching Ken almost be stabbed in the heart

>>3337871
I have never had that problem, are you sure you're not just butthurt over 1 or 2 incidents

Ari red fast 2:0.

did we reach bumplimit already?

Bump test.