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do any of those other than perfume actually have any fans?

=Love, ≠ME, Last Idol, Wasuta, Perfume, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, 26 Ji no Masquerade, Super Girls, Tokyo Girls Style, Girls², NiziU and the like are allowed here.

>>32975394
you'd be surprised. they actually have fans, i've seen them in other generals. hopefully they'll come and post here

>the perfume olympics closing ceremony dream is dead
Sad.

>>32975394
I don't know about 4chan but some of these groups sure are popular in Japan.

/main/ as in mainstream as opposed to /alt/?
That's a good idea for a thread.
>>32975405
>Super Girls
Wow, it's been some time since I heard about them. Are they still doing fine?

OnePixcel chads rise up!

>>32976198
>/main/ as in mainstream as opposed to /alt/?
Yes, that's the idea. I was suggested to make a thread for all idols that fit into the category since the NiziU thread from before had too little fans to survive as a thread on it's own.

>Wow, it's been some time since I heard about them. Are they still doing fine?
While i don't know much about them, they're definitely still going strong. last year was their 10th anniversary and they had a live towards the end of this January

>>32976998
>since the NiziU thread from before had too little fans to survive as a thread on it's own
I remember seeing Wasuta threads too. Don't know what happened to them, but probably the same.

>>32975218
>>32975440
If you're the op maybe remove 48/46 they already have generals

AKB and Sakamichi series used to be in the same general years ago, but their fandoms didn't get along at all

>>32975394
then where's the perfume general?

>>32977398
It's partially my fault since i didn't word it clearly, but this thread is for idols that aren't apart of the 48/46 groups or any popular franchise similar to it. Basically a thread for the idols that don't already fit into the threads and generals here on /jp/ but are still mainstream. It's the opposite of /alt/

>>32977398
Sakamichi is pure cancer

>>32977398
There used to be a perfume gen but it died cause perfume fags moved to trannycord.

>>32977398
AKB is pure cancer

Does that 22/7 group belongs to any other general? That Sally girl used to be popular here.

>>32977858
They might have been posted in the Seiyuu threads, but as far as i know, no.

post you're last idol oshis

>>32979063
cute non-chan

>>32979188
cheers mate, airi is very cute too! Who do you think will be the center for the newest single?

>>32975218
>This is a thread created for idols that do not fall under any franchises (AKB, Sakamichi, Stardust, H!P, etc.), yet still are signed to a major label (Sony, Avex, Universal, Ponycanon, etc.)

>>32979948
i feel like it's going to be Rio. popularity + hability wise it should be Hata but she's maybe too old.

just hoping it's not Nanami since her and the group popularity hasn't moved much with her centering almost every single

what about you?

>>32980150
absolutely agree. Nothing against nanamin but the group definitely needs a fresh face. I'm personally hoping for majime or honoka.

>>32975405
Nijicon?

Saito Nagisa from =love is very cute, sorry I can't post a pic right now

>>32980787
She really is

>>32980624
Nijicon is regularly posted on /alt/ just like Wasuta but they qualify for here too.

>>32980073
Technically they would be allowed to be posted here, yes.

I want to fuck Kyary's aging ass.

NiziU's ad for Softbank.

>>32981871
Aren't both groups too big for /alt/?

>>32984670
yeah but there's no where else to post about them, hence the creation of this thread which probably won't last anyway.

bump. please don't die

>>32981871
First Nijicon of the thread has to be best Nijicon

>>32988660
who's this? she's cute

>>32992819
Cutest and best Nijicon Hiruta Airi

>>32980787
>>32981774
word

>>32975218
Perfume fell so hard in /jp/ that they had relegated themselves onto a thread with other major idols to stay relevant.

RIP Perfume General

>>33001878
What do you mean? What happened to Perfume here?

Jpop is dead

>>32975405
>Kyary Pamyu Pamyu
I still don't get it.

>>33005331
2DEEP4U

where I can find pics of niziu 新井彩香 ?
I put her name in twitter / images
and there are very few

>>33007586
have you tried searching アヤカ?

>>33008112
ty !!
I had tried it with hiragana but not with katakana

>>33007586
like the anon above said, try searching up 'アヤカ', ' あやか NiziU', or 'AYAKA NiziU'. while watching japanese shows i noticed that niziu's names are usually in english or katakana.

also happy birthday to rio, she turned 19 today (february 4th)

looking to get into idolfaggotry
are there any essential twitter accounts that i should follow

>>33011547
what kind of groups?
though for general information on most groups i recommend @ JPopProjectNews

>>33011547
these groups are mostly quite niche, not the sort fo thing someone gets into first

bump
please don't die.

Niziu H&M ad.

>>33011547
https://twitter.com/nemoto_nagi

>>33005540
What were they thinking?

>>33019630
>>33020124
You can tell this is a jpop group and not a kpop group because most of the girls are ugly.

>>32975394
i*Ris have a huge following in the overseas idol dance cover community. I think they tend to get ignored by male wotas

>>33025313
>I think they tend to get ignored by male wotas
It's just we all are in a seiyuu thread for a franchise they all voice characters in.
Oh, and there are probably Miyufags in Love Live thread.

>>33025003
i like their looks. kpops look too perfect in a sense

>>33025003
i get that you're trying to trigger people, but it's more so that the ugly ones didn't get pressured to get $30k worth of plastic surgery to look like a bloated generic mess. you can't tell if kpops are ugly or not because they're wearing 5 pounds of makeup to hide their joker scars, uncanny valley stretched taut skin, and plucked raw eyelids.
that being said nizi are ugly even for jpop standards. top right is the only decent one. a typical jpop group would have at least two girls worth looking at.

>>33034697
Who is this?

>>33035020
Girls2 Kira Yamaguchi

>>33037176
nta, but you think girls2 will eventually become like their former seniors egirls (flower, happiness, dream) in the future?

>>33001878
Nah. It's just the touhou spamming that's too much.

If Pokemon, MLP and VTubers can have their own boards, Touhou should too. Because of Touhou, /jp/ is borderline useless for anything else.

>>32975218
>open thread because of Perfume
>get a bunch of Whos?

Thanks, thread.

We're getting a good Perfume thread on the 15th, right?

All Perfume fags are gonna come back and post a bunch of cute A-chans, right?

Please

>>33018881
cute rapper

Want to ask a hypothetical question. Assuming people in 100 years time still have the same music taste as today, do you think they would consume present idol material as an idol fan, or just a work of art (without the fan enthusiasm)?

>>33037852
you can post perfume here.

>>33041728
you can't have fan enthusiasm if you're not living contemporaneously with the idol, imo. people of the future will probably like contemporary idols for the same reasons people like 80s idols today. they enjoy the music, or aesthetic of the period

bump

Post your favorite /main/ MVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJdpqIGp1XA

>>33051026
=LOVE's bokura no seifuku christmas
https://youtu.be/YIjPbF-dKQA

>>32976198
>That's a good idea for a thread.
The WACK autists definitely belong here since only an idiot would think their groups aren't mainstream.

>>33005331
I can't say much about her popularity or how she's viewed in Japan but it's obvious she got big in the west because she perfectly encasulated the west's idea of "LOL JAPAN SO WEIRD LMAO".

Idol is dead.
Coronavirus destroyed the idol industry.
It's so boring now it's not even worth watching any of its content.
And no Perfume is not idol, they are like Kalafina, music artist.
OP is dumb.

How did Perfume hold it together after all these years? They don't seem to be stopping soon either.

>>33057754
>not enjoying all the extra content we got to watch because every event is held online now
it was a fun era

>>33057754
I apologize. I should've done more research. I was just suggested to use a picture of them for the thread. I'm personally not a Perfume fan so i wouldn't know. Next thread i'll use an actual picture of an Idol group.

>>33061094
perfume are an idol group. they've just been around so long obviously they're not going to be doing exactly the same thing as they were 5, 10, 15+ years ago. that guy is a fag.
https://youtu.be/PnISoOAc2l8

>>33061094
perfume are an idol group. they've just been around so long obviously they're not going to be doing exactly the same thing as they were 5, 10, 15+ years ago. that guy is a fag.
https://youtu.be/xdCxpCHlpgQ

>>33061340
they don't do handshake event and they don't sell cheki and they don't do idol shit.
deal with it faggot, perfume is a superstar, not your delusional idol shit

>>33059064
They're still getting product endorsements so they're still bringing in money even if their music sales have been in decline for almost a decade.
The girls don't seem remotely as close to each other as they used to but maybe having a professional relationship rather than a three way friendship is better for a music group.


>They don't seem to be stopping soon either
They're 32 year olds now, it's only a matter of time till one of them gets married, then, it will all end.

This video is old but still gold.
https://youtu.be/EDrAdz0Kf_Q?t=632

>>33060005
I kind of agree. Online lives are a nice extra thing but the fun of watching lives is the energy of the entire show between both the performers and the crowd. Gay socially distanced crowds where wota can't cheer and chant or the idols can't really interact with the crowds just leaves you with low energy performances that feel like they happen in a void.

>>33063136
>They're 32 year olds now, it's only a matter of time till one of them gets married, then, it will all end.
Doesn't seem to be stopping Negicco.

>>33063136
>The girls don't seem remotely as close to each other as they used to but maybe having a professional relationship rather than a three way friendship is better for a music group.
I know this is usually what happens to long-lasting groups but it makes me somewhat sad.

bump

>>33068497
People grow apart from each other, especially as they get older and start developing their own lives or families. I would assume they're all still friends but they're in their 30s now and well past the age of having to constantly be out doing things together and better to keep a professional friendship than have a close one just blow up and potentially get ruined like what happened with (even though they're /alt/ material) Miyako and Burst Girl.

>>33071879
That's true. I wonder who will be the first to get married or start a family, if they plan on doing so.

bump

Mako's individual cover for NiziU's Single "Take a Picture / Poppin' Shakin"

>"fans don't like future pop but it'll make us popular overseas" Nakata said

Are The Coinlockers considered an idol group now or are they still a "band?"

translate weebs
https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/19653192/

>>32975405
does this mean there's finally a thread for shi--I mean izone? or are they still off-topic due to being kpop trash

>>33087479
They are an idol group. Do you follow them? They seem so unpopular for an Aki-P project it's sad.
>>33089358
They are an actual K-pop group unlike NiziU so no.

>>33089580
Yes, I follow them. I hope they catch a break soon. Their latest single is pretty catchy in my opinion.

>>33005331
key are E. as in "kyary" means we're in the key of E major/minor. and "pamyu pamyu" is onomatopoeia for the sound she makes as she farts into the mic twice and Yasutaka makes it into award winning gold.

what's not to get?

>>33089358
>izone
They're still k-pop trash and hopefully Makura, Nako and Hiichan will never return to their respective japanese groups

>>33091909
>hopefully Makura, Nako and Hiichan will never return to their respective japanese groups
why is that?

>>33090716
>what's not to get?
The audience.
I don't get how someone can find that appealing.

>>32975218
I suggest renaming this thread to something else. Perfume are not idols, people in Japan don't consider Perfume to be idols and neither do the members themselves.

>>33092804
It's for childish reasons actually, I'm a 48 Group fan and don't like how some girls are adopting the current k-popper look.

AKB and HKT's current popularity, which gets worse by the year, would be a huge downgrade from their current korean idol life and lead to problems with other members who wanted their shot in Korea but didn't make it.
It'd also generate problems with others because those three are gonna come back full of themselves

I've never liked Sakura and nowadays she'd be/is HTK's topppest of the top members and would automatically become the center of their world since Sashihara Rino graduated a little after I*Zone was born.
These two years without Sakura or the forced combo NakoMiku allowed other girls to shine and break the mold of what you'd expect from the group without Sasshi.

Thank you for reading my blog. Now please go support NMB48, they're the best.

>>33104083
>I'm a 48 Group fan
I actually wonder how people get into. Like actual curiosity, not because I want to. I don't think I've ever found a 48 (or 46) group where I thought the music was any good and everything about it just feels sterile. If I'm going to listen to a bigger group I'd rather stick with one like Ebichu that tends to produce pretty good music. FWIW having gone back and tried listening to Onyanko Club I think they sucked too. Akimoto's idea going back almost 40 years seems to be quantity over quality and I think the 48g groups (and again Onyanko Club before it) largely embody most of the negative stereotypes associated with idol more than any other group or agency.

Also as a personal preference I think 6-7 members is the max amount any group should have.

>>33104538
Yeah, the amount of girls and the amount of content they've generated over the years is insane.
I got into AKB, SKE, NMB, HKT and STU through their tv shows and watching streams of theatre performances live. It was at a point in my life in which I was not depressed but I was a huge NEET and had nothing to do so I could dive in fully into it, it's hugely time consuming, and even when I've had a real job for the last four years, I still follow the general state of the groups and the girl's sns, mobile mails and still have time for other hobbies.

Even after all these years I can name at least 70% of past and current members for all japanese 48 groups, which is a completely useless superpower but, whatever, I really like them.
For example, my favourite 48 sister group is NMB, which currently has roughly 49 members, and of all of them, I like/attention to about 20 of them, I don't care about the others, it's like they don't exist, but when a girl catches my eye during a performance and she's interesting, I'm in.

The music is mostly basic, specially the theatre only songs but some are very catchy and even if it's mostly mainstream music, it's very enjoyable. Though for me nostalgia plays a big factor in a lot of songs.
SKE's first 16 singles have great A and B sides, but most 48 music released in like, the last five years is really sub-par (specially AKB's music) except for very few exceptions.

At this point they're not even trying with the music, the only thing keeping 48 alive are the girls' activities on stream or sns and gravure.


This wall of text would be more appropiate for the AKB48 general but those threads are only gravure/meme posting/waifuing/jerking off.

>>33098766
i mean i was obviously joking but to answer the sentiment i think you're getting at which is a question of "how can anyone find 'XD random Japan' entertaining"? or "does anyone find her music tripe and shallow"? i have the following to say:

if you're pessimistic, you probably will be put off by certain cheap attention-grabber elements but if you honestly give it time for yourself to digest it you'll mostly likely become fond of her art.
the production is undeniably well crafted - even if it isn't your cup of tea it serves as a technical study and model to follow with proven success.

she also reinforces multiple scenes of music and art interaction such as fashion, music production, dancing, videography, lyricism, comedy, etc. her art addresses expression from all angles.

you're a stone cold stoic if this expertly-simplistic quick little major/minor key shift doesn't tug at your heartstrings: https://youtu.be/PFjuylGy_yA?t=168

>>33011547
this group and their agency are pretty big for up and coming idols @ DP_RABBIT8

>>33035020
yamabe is pure sex

Is Nakata still a hack?

>>33100398
this

>>33104538
As an Ebichu and 48g fan, if you are only into idols for the music like you seems to, you won't understand.

>>33105510
STU48 has some of the best music in the scene today, especially in coupling songs

>>32975218
>Perfume, Stardust, H!P
aka groups too dead for /jp/

instead id like to see perfume shoehorned in the bmsg thread but i'm not holding my breath

>>33108661
I just like music. Cute girls with quirky personalities (real or affected) aren't really rare, especially in the idol scene, so if I'm going to be into a group then they have to have music or performances that draw me in as well. It's why I tend to go for the more underground/alt groups since there's members that are cute or have personalities I like but I also really like the music and stuff that they put out too.

>>33011547
@JxSxK

>>33104538
There is some good music but you have to dig for it, and that's not really the point anyway.

i am glad hori is not in her ugly phase anymore
it must be the rest she is receiving while not being an idol

>>33111324

>>33111267
Honestly, that IS the main point, otherwise I feel like it would be easier to stick with seiyuu or something.

>>33117857
The thing about it is that you have to take these groups as a full package containing lives, real life drama, music, the yearly big events, variety shows, theater performances, SNS and everything else related. They thrive from their system/plataform which almost no idol group can have anything in the same scale.

About the music, Aki-P groups do have some amazing songs and performances but in most cases you gotta have the context to appreciate them. Songs are often written and performed in ways where the feelings of the idols and the fans turn them into something deeper/more special than regular idol music, as cheesy as this may sound. Even regardless of that, AKB stage albums and most Inoue Yoshimasa produced songs are some of the best idol music ever.