/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>32888650
Nope
>>32888328

BEING A SLOW BOARD IS ONLY LONELY
IF YOU WANT IT TO BE

>>32888756
You must be really butt devastated to post that in every thread

We need a /pthc/ board.

KEEPING THE SAME THREADS UP FOR AN ETERNITY

>>32888650
I wish this was the case but we'll never truly be rid of them

>>32888938
Give it some time. The massive wave of vtuber newfags will go to the new board. Some of the stubborn retards who were here before the trend started and have deluded themselves into thinking their shit threads were ever welcome here will try to stay.

>>32889147
Your permission was never required.

>>32889228
Then why are you guys being herded into a ghetto at our request?

>>32888650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM

>>32889228
You're universally hated and despised by every board on this site. You are a repugnant tumor and no one wants to deal with your faggot asses. This is why you're getting your own board. I'd say you're worse than bronies, but the overlap between vtuberNIGGERS and former/current bronies is probably enormous.

>>32888650
LIVING TOGETHER IN A MANSION DRINKING DELICIOUS TEA

>>32889228
Sure, that's why you're getting the /mlp/ treatment

>>32888650
Not until mods realize that /vt/ needs to be enforced, or else people like >>32888756 will continue throwing a tantrum out of spite.
Please do as that mod instructed and submit a feedback telling them to realize how pointless a split is if people can just choose not to use it.

>>32889837
>giving a fuck about what about what this site thinks and looking for validation from it
Lmfao

>>32890232
shoo shoo stinky tubey

luka was a mistake

>>32890232
who are you quoting?

>>32890281
hellooooo miku

Really feels like I'm witnessing witnessing some mass-delusion throughout the course of the day. Do you guys not see the catalog? The exact same shit is still here and still being made, probably even worse than before now, and the mods aren't removing it. There's nothing to celebrate about unless they decide to keep them strictly confined to the new board, though why they didn't do that in the first place is beyond me.

HOLO IN HELL

>>32889837
>You're universally hated and despised by every board on this site
Pot, you are black too.

>>32890326
It's like despite seeing people asking for /vt/ for more than 6 months they never figured out why it was needed, this is just silly. The one thing that makes me hopeful is how nanashi_ asked for feedback since mods are still unsure of how to deal with this situation (despite it being obvious), meaning they might eventually realize that /vt/'s existence should be enforced or else there's no point to it.
For now, I guess they can see how many ill-intentioned people have decided to stick around shitposting on /jp/ based on how many of their posts have been reported and deleted, which should help with that case.

>>32890326
Pretty much, yes.

>>32890340
I don't know why vtuberfags continue to force this "argument". All you're saying is that you are as bad as the touhoufags you apparently despise. Do you people have any self-respect? Do you even like the vtubershit you consume daily?

I never knew /jp/ before vtubers, i'm excited to see the board back to its glory and non-derailed. Any good threads you guys recommend?

>>32890462
I recommend the lurking one.

>>32890326
It's just a lot of butthurt or slow stragglers.

>>32890326
Mods will always be retards

>>32890434
>as the touhoufags you apparently despise
I don't care about them till they raid my thread and start to getting uppity over nothing.

>Do you people have any self-respect?
>/jp/

why are vtubefans so intent on taking away our easyness

>>32890699
sore losers, that's all

>>32890395
Only hope at this point is hope the mods truly are paying attention. Keep bitching about it and submitting feedback and maybe we'll truly be free. At this point vtubers basically got a free board out of all the shit that's happened over the past few months but can still conveniently host their generals and individual character threads on /jp/. Nuts.

Weird to think how 3DPD idols were the big menace for a few years, but they seem like saints compared to all the drama vtubers have caused in barely a fraction of the time they've been here.

I for one am very happy about this. Don't care how long it will take to weed the retards and get /jp/ back, it's just about sending a message.

>>32890699
they don't like it when you insult their favorite e-whores

>>32890747
In spite of all the past mistakes they have made, some of the mods are receptive to feedback. I would start blaming incompetence before assuming malice when dealing with them from this point. So please continue to write out clear and detailed feedback that explains exactly what should be done and why it's a good decision.

One minute with Lukas navel.

Please

My life for one minute with her navel.

>>32890232
It's not about validation, it's about everyone agreeing that you are absolute human detritus. It's a statement of fact, I don't care if it makes you feel bad or not.

>>32888756
The split was effective; we are back to how we were for over an entire year. If you still aren't used to it yet, and can't live with it, then you actually need to get help

>>32890275
That's the most chuuni thing I have ever seen

>>32890880
I just agreed in your mouth, you should check it.

>>32890648
Who are you quoting? Stop pretending like you know anything about this board you crossboarder

>>32890768
the vtuber fanbase does more of that entirely to themselves. go into any thread and there are doxxfags and antis absolutely everywhere because of their pathetic vtuber waifu wars.

>>32890275
Amazing post, props to whoever wrote this

>>32891303
I remember when I thought the "antis" was just a meme, then I learned it was a real thing. The /v/tuber community truly is insane.

>>32891156
Look at the catalog anon, nothing has changed. People are still spamming threads and necrobumping so often that everything is still dying in 4 hours.
/jp/ will only go back to that time once mods start enforcing /vt/ and falseflaggers stop spamming Touhou threads.

/jp/ is very nearly good, but the one age old enemy still remains.

>>32892034
Those fucking lazy bastards at Mangagamer, I bet. The day of reckoning is upon them, as soon as Rance Quest gets finally farted out.

>>32888650
All my tube thread still up lol and Holos are making more. It is just like /vg/ and /vmg/.

>>32892457
The difference is that /vmg/ was an additional board for /v/, while /vt/ is a split from /jp/. They're completely different things.

>>32892519
Also worth stating that gacha is actually a video game, ewhores are not otaku culture.

>>32892534
>ewhores are not otaku culture.
I dont like it but you have to read the writting on the wall anon.

>>32892570
It is not otaku culture because the modern generation of zoomers who consume this garbage are not even otaku. It is entirely mainstream culture. That some actual otaku are stupid enough to enjoy still doesn't mean it's otaku culture, just as actual otaku can play call of duty and that's not otaku culture either.

>>32892034
Yokohama Months

Learned, translated
Franchise dedicated.
Otaku feeling,
Forums together;
Best fun, life lost.

_____

Rate my poem.

>>32892642
regardless of what you call it, companies have struck a goldmine as far as being able to milk the money of those kinds of people,
its going to become the norm.

>>32888650
We have won the war, but at what cost ?

>>32892683
Fine, then please move to /cc/ - Company Culture.

>>32892683
Young people are being financially exploited in more ways than you can count, anon. We are entering a cattle existence for the bottom 99% of humanity. Actual art died off long ago.
Otaku culture is dead and "those kinds of people" are not actual otaku. There are still actual otakus but they are increasingly elusive.

vtubebros.....we're being evicted...but some of us are hanging on the door frame crying and screaming....

>>32892693
war isn't over until all of them are gone

>>32892642
>It's not otaku culture because I don't like it >:(
QQ

>>32892771
when /mgt/ was moved from /a/ to /jp/ we didn't make a scene.
we just accepted thats how its going to be and moved on.

>>32892771
No you're actually being moved to a neighborhood with much more space and full of neighbors who actually have similar interests as you yet you're still complaining because you enjoyed making life miserable for everyone at your old place

>>32892781
No. It's not otaku culture because it is designed for normalfags. Normalfags cannot be otaku. It is that simple.

>>32892781
Who are you quoting?

>>32892793
This really is unusual. I've never seen a cancer so intent on killing its host.

>>32892989
mostly because most of it was /v/ shitposting.

>>32892989
It's because deep down they don't give a fuck about vtubers and the drama and attention whoring is more entertaining for them than the actual subject matter.
If you go into actual vtuber threads (I don't recommend this) you will find that it's the same shit, except they fight amongst each other with "antis" talking shit about "roommates" in endless shitflinging
When you realize they are literally all 3rd worlder high school aged kids it makes a lot more sense

>>32888650

>>32893130
Why do you keep posting a conversation that never happened?

>>32893130
Dumb shit mod, Pokemon threads ARE moved from /v/ from /vp/.

>>32893130
Thanks for posting the link and the example of why not enforcing the split is dumb again.
Remember to send your feedback, everyone.

>>32892781
reminds me of the whole discussions about being "true neet"

>>32893191
I have no idea why I only remember the archive right now.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/vp/capcode/mod/
What a dumb example that mode chose to use.

Now I remember all those virtual shills that argued for years how unnecessary this was and how this "must" be on /jp/ no matter what because it's inherently Japanese (even though these shitters branched into Egnlish speaking vtubers to capitalized on the English speakers) and other weak arguments about how it was IMPOSSIBLE to create another board just for this even tough it's done for /v/ spinoffs every year and let's not forget /mlp/. Cancer gonna cancer.

>>32892793
>>32892989
The growth of this was bigger than simply moving a particular topic to /jp/, or any other board, and expecting it to stay the same for years. Back in 2017, when the first boom of various vtubers started, everything could be contained in a single thread but it was clear as early as 2018 that there was no stopping this shit.

/jp/ was already home to idols and other miscellaneous Jap stuff but they at least never acted as cancerous as the virtual shills or at least they kept it to themselves. And the cancerous behavior grew exponentially the more in vogue they became with your average westerner that likes this streamer shit and thus attracting your average /v/ fag to the threads. There was no negative that could've come of this extirpation of vtuber threads. If we could create a global rule for ponies to remain in /mlp/ then I don't know why the virtual shills were so adamant about not creating another board. It's a win win for both sides.

>>32892034
Those fucking japanese...

>>32893130
So does this mean that anime is allowed to be discussed on /jp/? It's otaku culture

Farewell 2hubros, some of you are shitters but some of you guys are alright I guess, glad we finally resolved this peacefully. I'll be moving on to my own board now. Enjoy the comfy times.

/a/non here. we may have our differences but good thing that you guys made it and won't be plagued by those shitty vtubers anymore. cheers to the 2hubros and feel free to visit us anytime

They're still here bros.
Are we just waiting for it to peter out?

>>32894636
We aren't entirely safe yet, not until mods realize that they need to enforce moving to /vt/ or else there isn't much point to the board.

>>32894686
No, the mods aren't sure what to do with the new board so they've been given leeway to stay here for now. If you don't speak up now, they may be permanent residents. It's no time to be taking it easy, write a feedback if you haven't already and keep complaining about things, this brief time period where the mods are actually paying attention is likely the only chance we'll have in a long time to finally shuffle them off to their own board.

>>32894686
>>32894751
>>32894781
wtf. then we must complain harder!

>>32894800

>>32888783
Professional Touhou Championships?

>>32890275
What is it with these myopic retards who insist you can only focus on a set number of subjects? If I wish to write an essay on the Deleuzian themes in Holomyth, for example - who will stop me?

>>32889837
Touhou is just a fucking garbage version of Ikaruga.

If we ignore the games, the art is uninspired chink shit 100 times worse than even the worst doujin artist.

Any questions?

>>32890462
get into doujinsoft like elona or niche threads like photography and just enjoy the comfy

The biggest issue with vtubers is when mods stopped caring. The mods themselves enabled and encouraged what the touhoufags feared- No one had a problem with smaller vtuber agencies being in the general vtuber thread, no one felt a need to make separate threads for individual hololive members before mods said "fuck it, everything's fair game"

>>32895522
Honestly this whole day has felt like a bad joke. If you're going to make a board for vtubers, don't settle on some "well you can post here if you WANT to but anywhere else is still fine!" nonsense. The whole idea of a vtuber board was that it'd finally get them off /jp/ for good and slow the board down to it's original speed. At the very least they could keep them back confined to generals again.

Maybe even more annoying is how quickly it's just being accepted as fact or just flat out ignored. I know some of you oldfag lurkers dread this just as much as I do, if you don't bitch about it now there really is no going back, things might be slower now, but they'll never be "as" slow, and there's nothing stopping them from continuing to grow either. Unless you're really fine with this being permanent, there's no better time to be vocal about it than now.

>>32895893
Problem is vtuber discussion is 99% hololive so the new board isn't /vt/ it's /hololive/.
I'm glad /jp/ is mostly back to what it was but i did enjoy some small indie vtubers and seeing /vtg/ die like this as they wil just get raided or bumped off seems kind of sad.

>>32895386
Notice how vtuberfags are utterly incapable of actually talking about why they like their garbage, they can only “argue” by tearing down the other side because god knows they have nothing of value on theirs
Touhou and Ikaruga are miles different, if you said it was a shittier Dodonpachi your bait would’ve worked better since DDP is the main inspiration.
And “good art” is a dime a dozen, ZUNart gives the characters a unique identity unlike vtuber designs which are the most soulless focus-tested neural network tier trashy shit you would find in a gacha or something.

>>32894636
glad you're doing okay /a/bro, i noticed you guys were having a tough time with your moderators as well. i almost fell out of my chair when i visited and saw unironic naruto threads. i'll always come back for Non Non Biyori though.

>>32894493
godspeed, glad you're finally getting your own board

Don't forget the Japan Idol threads.
You will never be free.

>>32892534
>not otaku culture.
Literally has their own boards separately from regular vtubers on more niche otaku nip sites than this one.

>>32895522
Mods are good for nothing

>>32895386
a holonigger calling something uninspired. kek.

>>32890281
You shut your whore mouth

>>32896326
The board should have been touhou-only in the first place. No boat garbage, no idols, no vtubers. Just the dea- comfiest board you could imagine.

>>32895386
It's funny how obsessed you vtuber scum are with Touhou. I've never really been big into Touhou. I've always come to /jp/ for VNs, maybe sometimes the idolm@ster threads.
We probably despise you more than the Touhoufags. There's always gonna be Touhou threads on /jp/, even in the midst of your faggotry, but the VN generals had to constantly worry about your faggy spam bumping us off the board. Also you faggots killed like half the variety on the board, which is probably why you think the only other people on /jp/ are Touhoufags.
Eat shit and go to your quarantine zone.
- Sincerely, the rest of /jp/

>>32898765
If you like VNs so much you should actually post in your own threads

>>32898765
To be fair most crossboarders like me consider /jp/ to be the 2hu board. That being said I just came here to say fuck vtubeniggers

What about this, let the 3 Japanese vtuber generals stay, the invididual threads and English/Western stuff goes to the new board, /jp/ goes back to being slow again

>>32898875
Then people will whine about mods taking sides and things might slippery slope back into the same situation the board is still in. Keeping the generals in here also hurts themselves, because people are also making them on /vt/, causing fragmentation of discussion.
Seriously, the best choice is manning up and realizing that the spam of oranges, tranny sharks, nyanners and whatever else on /vt/ is nothing more than the new board effect attracting a bunch of shitposters there who will get tired of their own garbage eventually, then just accepting the fact that you have an entire board to work with and setting home there for good.

>>32898875
It's all or nothing, the mental gymnastics of vtuberfaggots are unrelenting

>>32898875
Or maybe fuck off to >>>/vt/ forever

>>32898964
But it's not "all or nothing", look at the other generals here

>>32892804
well put

>>32896326
Not enough people draw attention to this. Are we really free when a good fifth of the entire board's volume are misplaced generals?

>>32895893
Only people that are going to stay on /jp/ are stubborn holdouts and elitists (lmao) who think they're too good to mingle with the EN masses. Their numbers will gradually dwindle, and they're not gonna get any new users, because they'll all be going to the vtuber board. Eventually they'll be just another half dead general.
If you look at 4stats.io right now, /vt/ already has twice the traffic /jp/ does. Holonigger global general has been almost completely excised here, the thread on /vt/ has 10 posts per minute, while the thread here has 2. ホロニガー is at 8.5 ppm here and 0.5 on /vt/, so those are, predictably, the stubborn wannabe elitists I mentioned.
I agree that they should get booted off the board immediately like the lepers they are, but you're being way too melodramatic. It's only been a day and we've already gotten rid of the vast majority of this shit, and the rest will get weaned off /jp/ with time. ホロニガー thread will probably never die, but having one terrible thread is far more preferable than having half the board filled with that shit.

>>32899012
One step at a time. The vtuber spam finally got bad enough that mods decided to take a (half-assed) measure, maybe /idol/ could still happen one day.

we still run this show
don't get cocky

>>32898812
I do. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

>>32899039
I guess you're right, but I've gotten jaded since idols have been here for way longer (honestly, as long as I've been browsing the board) and not a thing has been done about them. I'd even go as far to say that idols aren't the only thing that really shouldn't be here (JAV, gravure, onas come to mind off the top of my head), but ultimately you're right: take things one step at a time.

Imagine arguing that vtubers aren't otaku culture when Akihabara is filled with ads for them, futaba literally has an entire board devoted to them, doujincircles are creating dedicated songs and art about them, eroge companies are having vtubers do their opening songs, touhou fanartists are doing collabs with them, and their concerts are filled with literal gllasses-and-haori otaku stereotypes

I don't think there's anything more otaku-associated in japan than vtubers at the moment

>>32899121
Anime is otaku culture too so let's turn the board into /a/2 to talk about things I don't want to talk on /a/ because they're full of people I dislike.

>>32899107
they're not an issue because they stick to their generals mind their own business and don't spam the board, as harmless as it gets

>>32899189
>they're not an issue because they stick to their generals mind their own business and don't spam the board
They actually do from time to time. /jp/sies will always hate them.

>>32899206
What makes you more of a /jp/sie than them?

Fuck 2huniggers, there's nothing you and your dead franchise can do to stop me from posting on /jp/

>>32899226
lurk forever

>>32899260
No seriously, how long have you been here?

>>32899206
uh no they don't they're nowhere close to the cancer vtubers have been, even complaining about them in the same breath is ridiculous

>>32899269
Long enough to be considered a /jp/sie
>>32899273
I know but they're still cancer and shouldn't be respected

>>32899121
I'd argue it's the nature of the threads vtuberfags have, instead of any actual posting it's just a comment section every time a vtuber streams. You can technically have a thread about discussing vtubers but it will always devolve into chat posting so just having them in their own boards works best and bothers no one

>>32899253
why do you feel so threatened?

>>32899295
2hu is the biggest cancer in this board. Keep crying and you might even get contained in a single thread

>>32899337
this board was created to contain the 2hu. So why are you complaining again?

>>32899295
how are they cancer if you admit they are nowhere close to being cancer
when has an idol poster invaded your threads when have their threads pushed yours off the board

>>32888650
YES YES YES!
WE ARE FINALLY FREE FROM VTUBERS TRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE OLOLIVE, IT'S TIME FOR TOUHOU THREADS TO RISE AGAIN!

>>32899189
I'd agree with you if there were only a couple of said generals (you know, like VTubers were before the floodgates opened), but unfortunately that's not the case.

I'm pretty sure that all that will happen in the end is that you're going to get the same ruling that happened for VNs. That is, japanese vtubers can posted on /jp/ and /vt/, and english vtubers can only be posted on /vt/.

>>32899367
are you trying to make a case for overrepresentation

>>32899381
And all that falls apart when the holos from JP and EN do a collab, causing mods to panic as they try to understand why the fuck they tried to make this thing so complicated when the optimal solution is as simple as making everyone go to /vt/.

>>32899352
I'm looking at the title of this board but I don't see the word touhou anywhere. Keep being a whiny manchild about your dead franchise please, so mods get fed up with you and decide to put you all in a single containment thread

>>32899413
the reason is simple. Mod is a huge hololive faggot.

>>32899360
Cancer is still cancer, anon. You haven't lurked long enough if your thread hasn't invaded by idol autists like sallyfag already. All 3DPD generals are shit anyways.

>>32899427
You want to talk about board names? Okay let's have it your way.

>>>/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32898950
The vtuber generals with <30 people have basically decided to stay here and it isn't very hard to prevent fragmentation since an alternative thread wouldn't survive anyway. Something meidos should absolutely do is cull individual vtuber threads, at the very least those who have a company thread. The only other problematic threads I see are the Hololive-but-not threads, aka Uto and Delta, who probably should just be considered EN-lite at this point and kicked to /vt/.

>>32899107
JAV, Gravure, ona, and non-virtual idols are literally the least problematic threads on the board.

>>32899435
hasn't been invaded*

>>32899435
So your entire argument hinges on ideological garbage/purity nonsense and you have no practical complaint to make lol got it

>>32899474
Huh? It's not hard to figure out how cancerous 3DPD generals are if you just lurk there for 2 minutes. I guess you're probably just another salty idolfag. /jp/sies will always hate you.

So in short, vtuber snowflakes are angry that they can't outcancer touhou. Why? You have a board dedicated for your shit fest. Why the need to shove it in a place where you are obviously not welcome anymore?

>>32899440
Go cry about it on their IRC and /qa/ again. Although they don't give a fuck about your bitching because your kind cry about literally anything that's not retarded 2hu horny posting in a board called OTAKU CULTURE

>>32899464
Triangle isn't even a vtuber though, atleast not yet.

It'd be hilarious if the end result of this is she's the only one that survives

>>32899396
>>32899464
Over-representation sounds about right. My issue is that there are tons of nonsensical generals that are better fit for other boards that I have to go out of my way to filter. Not to mention, until hitting the bump limit, these guys hog the first few pages since they don't know how to sage. At least Hololive, for example, used to be pretty easy to get rid of.

>>32899488
Huh? It's not hard to figure out how false your claims are if you just lurk for 2 minutes. I guess you're probably just another salty 2hufag. People with a brain will always hate you.

>>32899493
The one crying right now is you.
This is why gatekeeping is important, to keep Neanderthals at bay.

>>32899464
One other thing that I forgot to mention is that /vt/ is only as fast as it is because it was made today, which is also why it's being shitposted so hard. In due time, the board will slow down to /jp/-with-hololive-generals levels, and that should easily be enough for those generals to survive for long enough.
I'd be fine with the stance mods took if they said that they're waiting until /vt/ calms down to encourage people to move there, but going "hur the board is pointless move there or don't we don't care lol" was fucking stupid.

>>32899511
Are you saying that Idolpig generals are not cancer? You're not fooling anyone idolfaggot.

>>32899464
It's retarded how vtuber generals are compared to normal threads/generals, it's how they post is what matters you don't get twitch/youtube/reddit tier reaction post on a VN or a JAV threads like you're fishing for upvotes. One of the reasons why the splits happen is because there was too many tubers streaming in hololive, that's why a lot of anons wanted a board to be in to maybe discuss and chat post on a particular stream they're interested in without overlapping the other hololive/nijisanji talent streams

>>32899511
>>32899525
stop calling everything cancer holy shit. You need to lay off from your obsessions.

>>32899592
Make me idolfaggot.

>>32899525
You are lying through your teeth when you complain about idolshit invading other generals/pushing them off the board. And if that isn't what you are complaining about then they don't fit the definition of cancer, so yes that would mean they are not cancer. It's even more embarrassing that you insistent you are an "oldfag" jpsie when you are so ignorant about the state of the other threads on the board, it would be a lot easier if you just admitted to being a clueless shitposter.

>>32899519
That's funny coming from an autistic group of retards that spam the board with literally useless threads everyday like that stupid flandre thread at the same hour, but cry non-stop about 1 or 2 containment threads that are not 2hu and call everything cancer
2huniggers are an extremely loud minority here, even your celebration thread has less posting per minute than a monster girl thread
Keep acting like this and you might really get put out of your misery and get all your individual imagedump threads banned

>>32899597
try again, im a 2hu and umineko fan. If you call everything in /jp/ is cancer then what is not cancer?

>Two fanbases with containment boards arguing over who is more cancerous
Why do otakus have no self awareness?

>>32899605
You made a grave mistake of thinking only touhou hate you people. Go to anywhere like /int/ or /tv/. Open your eyes and see how ignorant you truly are.

>>32899624
I don't hate vtubers, I hate the disgusting amount of crossover they have with /v/. Everything that board touches turns to shit

>>32899551
I was under the impression that was just a hololive problem (maybe nijisanji too but their thread is so insular I don't know what happens there).
I don't think I've ever seen twitch style posting on virtual youtubers, independents, 774, or PPP threads. Almost all of the problematic posting and threads come from the Hololive and hololive-adjacent (Uto and Delta) posters. It's probably an issue of barrier to entry being so low that /v/ type posters can consume their content and come here to post. English-unfriendly vtubers don't attract the same group.

>>32899616
yes you have all the self awareness for being a filthy crossboarder.

>>32899649
The big companies also bring a lot of tribalist retards, which typically doesn't happen as much in the indie threads. So you get this awful mix of literal twitch posts, numberfagging, and "my company is better" posts

>>32888650
Hi, /jp/! You may not like us, but I like you! I've seen the birth of this board but never bothered visiting until hololive. I know you hate vtubers and that's perfectly understandable. Most of us moved to /vt/ but we have strugglers. Can you please drive the rest of them out so you can have the board all for yourself? Thank you and love you.

t. /tg/ refugee

>>32899624
So you admit you lot are irrelevant so you need to resort to random who's from other boards? That's pretty pathetic considering you were the ones who got banished from /a/ while vtubers can still be posted here freely

>>32899689
I forgot about the numberfags honestly they're probably even worse than the average holofag.

>>32899696
Feeling a little insecure now are you? Everyone is sick of you entitled kids, and everyone knows /jp/ is a slow board and here it contains touhou. Touhou is here first, and lo and behold, >>>/vt/, a board dedicated for your obsession.

Give it up. You are being difficult and stubborn. Take your loss like a man.

>>32899510
So what is not being given enough space?

>>32895386
This is obvious bait but I hate how every faggot reviewed used to compare every new shmup to Ikaruga

>>32899696
>other boards
All boards. Even your own hellhole of /vt/

The reason these holoniggers WANT to stay in /jp/ is because they realize how good this board is. Why else would they not go to /vt/?

>>32899799
It only takes a cursory glance to see /vt/ is a shithole. Half the posts are annoying orange, so unless they get more jannys to clean it up why would anyone want to be there

you should be glad that EN is kicked out

now stop fighting

>>32899799
This board is comfy despite the dead 2hu threads

>>32899816
>>32899799
It's just new board hype. Do you really think people enjoy Annoying Orange unironically? it's /qa/ seething too because they didn't get their e-celeb board. It'll stabilize in a week or two.

inb4 vtuubers are e-celebs.

>>32899816
annoying orange is literally just 1 thread. Imagine being offended by a fruit lmao

>>32899816
Not /jp/'s problem. They need to fix their own board and get evicted from here, they've overstayed and abused the hospitality of /jp/ far too much.

>>32899857
Kick them out, anon. Kick them all out.

so why do you actually HATE vtubers? they're actually otaku culture's biggest aspect, they cater to their otaku fans, they're idols, they speak japanese (which you should know since its /jp/ for fucks sake), and they even consume a lot of japanese media. if anything, you should be liking them with how they enjoy otaku culture as well, and have talked and played ZUN's games and materials.

>>32899857
best post in this thread, it's impossible to prove his point wrong; you literally can't argue with this.

>>32899888
Nothing wrong with vtubers. But there is something wrong with people who like them, and their constant need of having their presence known.

>>32899691
Thanks fa/tg/uy, we're trying

>>32899888
Because their existence stifles discussion in other otaku culture threads. They have disrespected board culture, aggressively and cancerously invaded and polluted other threads, brought hordes of newfags with them and greatly lowered post quality everywhere. If you cannot respect the bounds of the space you have been granted then you do not deserve any space at all.

holoniggers got too cocky. The end.

>>32899907
so you hate the EN side, which
>hates otaku culture
>do not speak japanese (no mori and kiara do not get a pass)
>see's it as a fad
>probably doesnt support their girl
>they play western games/media more often
>they disrespect the entire concept of what a Vtuber does for the JP audience as well
so by that logic, you should be angry at the EN explosion and glad they're all going away to /vt/ as well.
>>32899938
we respected them during most of hololives actual run? the issue arose once we started to see more catch on and EN coming along and forcing a split and even more commotion. we respected your rules the entire time and hell, i once hated hololive at one point. you gotta let go of a grudge

>>32899980
The fact is, >>>/vt/ exist. There are no more excuses. Maybe 3 annoying orange threads are too much for you, but that's how I feel when I see hololive.

>>32899980
And you have to let go of /jp/, you swine. Enough with the excuses and lies, your lot showed it's true colors and now that you've been dealt with fittingly and are being driven to the guillotine you shed those crocodile tears begging for mercy. Pathetic up until the very end. Off with your head.

>>32900043
i can write this for touhou as well. ironic isnt it?

>>32899980
You seem pretty well meaning but it's really clear that most hololive fans are the problem here. 90 percent (generously) of them do not speak Japanese, don't know anything about otaku culture, and I wouldn't be surprised if they barely know vtubers exist outside hololive.
Saying
>so by that logic, you should be angry at the EN explosion and glad they're all going away to /vt/ as well.
doesn't really make sense because although most people here despise the EN group even more than normal hololive, that doesn't give a pass to them.

>>32900053
but there is no touhou in /vt/ faggot

>>32890326
Not true, look at traffic and speed. Most vtumor left, there are just few stubborn retards still around bumping their threads.

>>32899980
Just come home, already. Don't overstay your welcome in /jp/. You're like a petulant child.

>>32900076
People are still bumping shit like the delta thread and holostars thread because they're way too slow to survive in /vt/ right now

>>32900058
> I wouldn't be surprised if they barely know vtubers exist outside hololive.
>32899848

why cant holoniggers just enjoy the vtuber like normal human beings. Use twitter dipshit.

>>32900062
perhaps you didnt read the rest of that post, right? After all, you should know how to read what you just posted right?
>...the excuses and lies, your lot showed it's true colors and now that you've been dealt with fittingly and are being driven to the guillotine you shed those crocodile tears begging for mercy. Pathetic up until the very end. Off with your head.
this reeks of what the 2hu fanbase has become on 4chan: a bunch of sniveling people who still cling to something old just because it reminds them of the olden days. you've become a sports owner whos obsessed with the 80's yet refuses to adapt to the modern era at all. theres nothing wrong with touhou: you've let yourselves become stale and ignorant and put hands over your ears and eyes just because someone else is posting on your board. you did the same exact shit for kancolle when that was here, and you continue to deny the board having stagnation in content and ideas. but im stupid for liking Vtubers right?
>>32900058
its clear that the issue was EN, and i saw it right away. we cant control that, but /vt/ can. i'd rather be here and at least try to mend peace even if i said that rant, than go to a board where im posting with actual dumbasses and someone who defends actual pieces of shit just because they're westernshit

>>32900099
Holostars are welcome in global. As for Delta... time to get along with the JP indie thread.

You have a new board, migrate there and implement some semblance of a culture. The shitpost thread spam will die down in a few weeks.
I still don't get the vitriolic hate for Vtubers, and comparing them to MLP is just dumb.
This entire fiasco was the fault of meidos, who decided to not moderate this place anymore and let whoever wanted to shitpost Vtubers run rampant, because most users were still contained in a few generals.

The problem is and always will be lack of moderation. The mods in /vt/ don't care either considering the quality of post there is multiple times worse than the absolute worst of anything in here and they're not doing anything about it. Half of the threads are about Annoying Orange. The same thing that happened here when mods publicly announced that they don't care happened to /vt/ right out the gates.

>>32900143
And you didn't read the rest of my post which only contains 8 words. I mentioned /vt/, it's a place where you belong. Stop giving excuses.

>>32900053
No, you cannot, because board immigrants cannot dictate how natives post. Natives cannot be deported from their own board. The board won't accommodate you, YOU must adjust to the board. But you didn't; you had months yet you failed to integrate, and this is the consequence. Maybe you will learn from your mistakes, maybe you won't. But either way, it doesn't matter, because there will be no second time for filth like you. Begone!

>>32900190
i dont belong on a place that has actual filth and trash. im gonna fight for what i believe in no matter what, and its for everyones best interest

>>32900168
Did the meidos ever explain why they just let the vtuber threads split over the entire board? Was it just an inside job to make /jp/ shit enough that they had to make a new board?

>>32900202
If you have the energy to fight for your believes you have the energy to use a fucking filter. NO MORE EXCUSES.

>>32900202
That filth and trash is the result of vtuberfaggotry, it's where you belong now.

>>32900099
>because they're way too slow to survive in /vt/ right now
Eh so now you know how it feels...
If two or three generals about nice japanese vtubers remained it wouldn't be a problem, all the stuff that can go on /vt/ should though.

>>32900202
Not my problem lol get out

>>32900143
Be the change you want to be, anon. Be the beacon of /jp/ culture in /vt/. If you want. You're on the way becoming a sniveling people by reacting to change negatively. EN still operates under the framework of a JP company and their existence is a concrete alternative to whatever the hell the western vtuber scene is. And as long as they are prominent in the west, they will shape it.

Now come home, old man.

>>32900143
>exact shit for kancolle when that was here
Kancolle is still here and they never were nowhere near as invasive and numerous as you by a long shot even in their very peak
t. ex-kancollefag

>>32900235
I'm sure they'll migrate over when the new board slows down, or when meidos start banning vtuber psoters off /jp/. Whichever comes first

>>32900143
>its clear the issue was EN
it was an becoming an issue months before EN when hololive was 80 percent of all posts on /jp/
also,
>>32884464
>>32895387
>>32445372
none of these are EN posts but they're the exact reason Hololive is despised. No other group is spamming the board with 10+ of their threads.

>>32900161
I'll be pretty sad when the Delta posters invade the indie thread but it's probably what will end up happening since banning individual vtuber threads is the cleanest fix.

>>32900206
>Was it just an inside job to make /jp/ shit enough that they had to make a new board?
Of course it was, nobody liked these spam threads.

>>32900258
At least before EN the posts were all contained in four or five threads, albeit four or five threads that made up the vast majority of all posts. Then for some reason they stopped banning splitfags and the board became unusable

>>32900202
You're already trash. Generals are still up and they still function as they used to. Why the fuck are you so adamant of not moving to a board with people you won't interact with anyway? Have you not visited /tg/, /vg/ or /sp/ before? Not all of them are interacting with their thread neighbors. If they don't affect you, they don't exist. And they don't affect you.

vtubers....dont you read the banner? dont come to /jp/ otaku culture "please"

we even said please

>>32890281
ill FUCK you up, little BITCH
if i see on you on the streets its on sight

>>32890281
*miracle

>>32900258
also this
>>32897624

>>32900258
It's insane that you had to bother posting proof. None of these obtuse fucking faggots argue in good faith, it's just excuses, cope and damage control now that they've been served their eviction notice. It's fucking hilarious how they're cowering and whimpering after months of trash talk. Good riddance.

>>32900352
it was a non-exhaustive list there's tons of them, I just linked 3 to show the point

>>32899857
This. All the vtube threads need to get kicked out of /jp/.

>>32900242
>Kancolle is still here and they never were nowhere near as invasive and numerous as you
This.
But I would argue that they (virtual shitters) were manageable during their inception when the initial vitrual youtuber general threads were allowed in /jp/. With that being said, comparing the kancolle presence in /jp/ to what the virtual cancer became is, quite honestly, bullshit.

Faggots like this >>32900143 love moving the goalpost, changing the narrative and creating their strawmen so they can justify their cancerous behavior. Good riddance.

Why did they fucking make /vt/ if they're not gonna force these shitters to move to it?

>>32903096
To sum it up what the mods said as of now. "We are not exactly sure what to do yet so they can stay, plz use the feedback button"

>>32903273
It shocks me how fucking stupid the mods are

it's too late. I can't take it easy every again, I was too disturbed. goodbye

>>32903600
With numbers likes these you defiantly can. The new board has stop the constant vomit of kuso threads.

>>32903273
Because a 2hu retard spammed /qa/ every single day asking for a new board for almost a year

>>32890150
i really really really fucking wish gr15 implemented.

Guess we should make more tube threads to celebrate the fact that /jp/ is still a Tube board.

>>32899888
I actually don't, I've watched them a few times in the past and found them amusing, but I held back from going any deeper because following streamers means you'll never have free time to do anything else. Even so, I still check back on holotools whenever I'm particularly bored.
What I do hate, however, is the impact their fanbase had on /jp/, which turned this board that used to slow and "comfy" into a generic cancerous fast board as soon as a retarded mod broke their containment general. And now that they have an entire board to fill with, a bunch of them don't want to go there because... because mods didn't force them to. I'm just fucking tired of all of this.

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>>32900202
Then fight against that filth and trash in your new home. /jp/ has tried to do so for more than a decade (and failed repeatedly, the latest case much thanks to you), why do you think you're so special that you shouldn't have to fight against cancer in your own board? That's how things work on 4chan. Can't handle the heat? >>>/r/hololive is right there to hold your hand and give you a different kind of cancer.

>>32899888
I don't consider V-tubers themselves to be an issue. At best, they're just stupid e-celebrities.
The real cancer is the obsessive fans who flood any board they're in with their cancer and drama, and overrun the original culture and users. That is why they need their containment board, not because of the topic at hand, but because the fanbase is insufferable.

>>32899857
This. It's time to leave.

Do not let up until the very last /vt/umor is excised and the chemo is complete. Not a single one left.

Came back here when I saw they made the containment board. Took a brief look at the catalog and decided I'm going to leave again because nothing's actually being contained. goodbye

WE WON

The fact that we are STILL having this argument is proof that the mods are just as ignorant as always.

/vt/ is not a containment board, true, but neither is /co/, and how many Adventure Time threads do you see getting posted here? There is an entire board for discussing western cartoons.

And for those who like to use the "it's otaku culture" argument, nearly everything on this site is otaku culture. Fishing is otaku culture, western cartoons is otaku culture, firearms is otaku culture, anime and manga is otaku culture etc etc, so by that logic everything should be allowed on /jp/.

Why do you guys blame vtuber fans when it was the website's moderation who caused the problem in the first place? They're the ones who allowed threads outside of the two generals.

The fact that we are STILL having this argument is proof that the mods are just as ignorant as always.

/vt/ is not a containment board, true, but neither is /a/, and how many Haruhi threads do you see getting posted here? There is an entire board for discussing anime and manga.

And for those who like to use the "it's otaku culture" argument, nearly everything on this site is otaku culture. Fishing is otaku culture, western cartoons is otaku culture, firearms is otaku culture, anime and manga is otaku culture etc etc, so by that logic everything should be allowed on /jp/.

>>32908589
They are also the ones that moved vtubers from /v/ and other boards to /jp/ against the resident's will
/vt/ourists and their shill mods are to blame and they should all move to their now board and stay there

Japanese virtual youtubers are otaku culture.

>>32908684
And so is anime.

>>32908684
Japanese video games are too so I guess it's time to start a Mario general on /jp/
>>>/vt/

The end truth is that no one, not holofriends, not nijifriends, not even indie groomers are going to use /vt/ when it's a board full of annoying orange and english trannies. If you guys actually want to get people to use it, you should petitioning for the rules to be changed to something like "Japanese Vtubers and Japanese-controlled Vtuber Agencies"

>>32908666
Do your history reps, there's been a vtuber general here for years, they never belonged in /v/. A quick archive search of /v/ shows that Kizuna Ai threads were deleted most of the time going back to 2016. I'm not saying they should stay, and I think the new board is a good thing, but you're making up blatant lies.

>>32908589
Why though? The other mod that wanted it contained to one thread was a good one. Why did the other mods think it a good idea to let it spill out and get like this? And why do they think it's a good idea to keep them here when they have a board all to themselves? All I can think is one of them is a vtubefan that's trying to compromise and keep them here against everyones wishes.

>>32908753
If you're really so retarded and new that you can't see how all of those threads are nothing more than a product of the board being new, I have to wonder what exactly you're doing here. Even if part of them continues posting after a week (namely the westernfags), that's something you'll have to learn how to deal with because no board on 4chan is 100% full of content you'll be into. Hell, you can't even use that excuse anyway since HoloEN exists.
Basically, grow the fuck up

>>32908795
>All I can think is one of them is a vtubefan that's trying to compromise and keep them here against everyones wishes.
I doubt it, if they actually cared about vtubers there wouldn't have been over a month with basically minimal moderation of the generals after "sharkmeido" got canned. The rest of the staff basically gave up on those threads until the past week.

>>32908812
>no board on 4chan is 100% full of content you'll be into
>Basically, grow the fuck up

Literally the pot calling the kettle a nigger

>>32908881
>I doubt it
The fact that any criticism of vtubers is near instantly deleted in their threads and even outside of them says otherwise.

>>32908981
That only started happening after the split, it's a message that the staff are allowing vtubers to stay on this board.

>>32898765
>the rest of /jp/
I guess you're an onahole lmfao

>>32909050
They were always there. It's a message that vtubers have shill mods that let them squat here when they have their own board to fuck off to

>>32908978
I can handle being in the same board as a bunch of 3DPD idolfags despite not being into them. So why can't you handle being in the same board as western vtuber fans?

>>32909101
Ok, you are free to believe that but I recommend you take some medicine for your schizophrenia.

>>32909115
Because if you had the choice, you wouldn't, you said so yourself.

We have the choice. Sucks to be you.

>>32909122
Spoken like a true /v/ermin. Fuck off to your new board and leave /jp/ alone.

>>32909150
"Basically, grow the fuck up".

>>32909115
They can't because they know they're the same people. It's like arguing with a mirror.

>>32909172
""Basically, grow the fuck up""

>>32909152
I've been using this board since before vtubers were a thing though. I don't think I would have become interested in them if I didn't learn Japanese here.

>>32900168
they were contained to 1 thread like a year ago in 2019 but vtubers got so popular it drew retarded /v/kiddos who just want to shitpost and falseflag all day and spam catalogues with mindless shit, regardless if they hate or love vtubers.

It got worse when english vtubers became popular. I'm still at a loss on how those were even allowed here in the first place. And the cancerous raiding they did to other boards like /qa/ along with a newfag meido who got in the same time is what caused the disaster /jp/ has been through since the last week of 2020.


They were small and contained in 2019. They should've made the board the moment it grew out of control during COVID. Shit's became irreversible at this point. Now the vtuberfags in /jp/ would never want to leave because mods let them stay in this board for far too long.

>>32909218
You faggots always say that when cornered, yet you use their lingo so naturally.
None of you belong on /jp/, go to your new home made just for you.

>>32909210
Sorry, I'm not the one going "too bad we can do it and you can't sucks to be you lmao" so a no u won't work in this case. But feel free to continue acting like an asshole, given how mods are looking for feedback on how to handle this situation I'm sure they're going to love any examples of people who only want to continue on /jp/ out of spite.

>>32909243
Yeah, because I've been posting in the threads for months. Why wouldn't I use the lingo? You need to chill on your false elitism

>>32903096
they did move their thread right away. but when one troll made a new thread here in /jp/, it wasn't deleted by the meidos. when people spammed to move to /vt/ meidos deleted those posts, confirming it's still alright to post in /jp/

it's partly the meido's fault

still arguing?
the jannies will swing their dicks and you will suck it

>>32909252
>"Go post on an alien board with content you don't like because I don't like your content on my board"

If you can't understand how hypocritical you sound, I'm afraid I can't help you.

>>32909259
>Yeah, because I've been posting in the threads for months
So you've been on /jp/ a few months, learned /v/ermin lingo and think that it's okay for you to stay on a board that doesn't and never wanted you? You don't belong, you never belong and you need to fuck off to /vt/.

>>32909278
Touhoufags would like the taste of dick.

>>32908589
also the same mod who spearheaded a raid to /qa/ last month which caused a mod powerstruggle that allowed a fuckton of vtuber threads in /jp/

>>32891471
Threads are now lasting 11-12 hours. Let's see how easy we can take it.

>>32909290
I already told you I've been here since before vtubers were created. Why do you keep responding with the same thing? Don't you have anything better to do?

>>32909287
Wrong.
>Go post on a board about the same fucking topic you're interested in because that's where you belong.
I know that being obtuse is a basic skill for a shitposter, but are you sure it's safe to keep reaching this hard so often?

>>32909297
This. they were manageable when it was just 4 threads max (two hololive, nijisanji, vyt) in the catalog but the /qa/ fiasco caused the shit to spill

>>32909314
>that's where you belong

Says who? The threads here are still being moderated, so obviously not the meidos.

>>32909302
No taking it easy until we get rid of all the /vt/umors

>>32909312
It doesn't matter how many times you say that, you don't belong here. Of you were squatting in some shitty general you are still cancer that needs to be removed. Since you identify as a vtuberfaggot you should move to /vt/ with the rest of you squatters.

>>32909346
what do you suggest? spam their threads?

>>32909297
>>32909333
The fact that the staff cares that much about /qa/ not being able to spam wojaks and pepes for one day shows how low this site has fallen

>>32909345
Maybe the board title? Or maybe the fact that said board was made entirely so you can talk about that topic without bothering anyone else?
And before you go "but you see vtubers are otaku culture too!", then how come you keep ignoring any post that mentions how anime is also otaku culture?

>>32909383
No, /vt/umor, but I know you'd want that

>>32909398
Because to be honest, I wouldn't care if anime was posted on /jp/

>>32909412
Because you don't belong here and don't care for the board itself.

>>32909346
I've sent numerous feedbacks already and meidos still aren't acting

>>32909367
Ok, well thankfully you don't make the rules and can't do anything about it! これからもよろしくお願いします

>>32909412
And yet people don't do it because /a/ exists. /a/ coincidentally also isn't a containment board, just like /vt/ happens to be, and yet people respect the fact that anime is better suited to /a/ than to /jp/ despite also being part of this vague as fuck subject.
That's exactly all you either refuse to understand, or understand perfectly yet choose to ignore because you know that you can annoy more people by staying here and shitposting in every metathread about this topic.
You caused this, any mod who's watching. You and your half-assed commitment.

>>32909423
Because I like weeb shit in general(enough to have learned the language, even) and I don't want to mix with westerners trying to ape it for a quick buck. I'm just not a hardline obsessive purist who only cares about a limited subset of topics like yourself.

In the end this argument is fruitless though. Until there's official word, literally nothing is going to change. No matter how angry you get. You'll just get banned when you spam the various vtuber threads, is all.

>>32909431
And when all their excuses are exhausted they resort to the "haha we'll continue being shitheads and you can't do anything about it hahaha", the real reason they're still here.
Is there any more proof needed as to why they should all be forcibly migrated to their new home and banned from /jp/?

Vronies are dense and they actually believe they can make 15 Pokemon generals on /v/ because 'pokemon is videogames'. They know jack shit about 4chan

they should just move to 2chan
https://dec.2chan.net/84/futaba.php?mode=cat&sort=3

>>32909485
It's only been one day and things are looking up already. Let's wait and see how things shake out before demanding further change.

>>32909482
>I don't want to mix with westerners
You don't have to, just stay in your respective threads. /vt/ isn't "western virtual youtubers", it's "virtual youtubers". It's for all of you to use regardless of your factional bullshit. Stop being a whiney faggot squatting on /jp/, move to your new home board and deal with your internal issues yourself. Make a board culture while you're at it if you could manage that.

>>32909503
You could say the exact same thing about 東方Project fans? I mean if you've been into it for over 10 years you really should be able to...

>>32909496
It doesn't help that an uninformed mod gave them exactly that example and ignored the ensuing counter-example.
And then you also check the archive and you find this: https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/vp/capcode/mod/

>>32909518
No. You vtubers still take up most of the board. Waiting just lets you consolidate control over two boards simultaneously and try to justify the status quo which should have shifted with you all going to /vt/ for good.

>>32898812
Threads dont need to be posted in 30 times a minute to have good discussions you colossal cunt. Leave the VNbros alone.

>>32909569
Popular things should have more discussion space.Touhou is a dead fandom

>>32888650
>/jp/ is free
explain this then

>>32909621
You really believe you are the first to be treated this way. Pony threads killed /co/ for years until they got their own board.

>>32909518
This. You're all expecting /jp/ to snap back to its usual self overnight, but things like take time. There's already been a fairly large migration to /vt/, and while I can't speak for all the vtuber threads, in the one I visit, it feels like holdouts are staying because their posting culture is more in line with /jp/ than whatever is going on with /vt/. I have hope that things will continue to sort themselves out, assuming mods don't deliberately fuck is over again.

>>32909643
That was the old admin. The new one just wants as much traffic as possible for ads and data-mining.

>>32908600
>western cartoons is otaku culture
You mean eastern?

>>32909662
What's better than a board dedicated to vtuber discussion then?

>>32909287
>alien board
the board is quite literally named Virtual Youtubers. This is like arguing that you want to keep posting about MLP on /co/ after /mlp/ was made.

So the general consensus is that they should be moved all-together to their DESIGNATED board. You know, the one made specifically for them?

Why do the janitors here take so long to do things that should be done quickly?

>>32909657
That's something I don't get, nothing's stopping them from continuing to post like they're on /jp/ for a topic that split off from /jp/. In fact, doing so would only help them form a culture. And yet they'd rather let newfags take control of the board from early on while they hole up /jp/ and refuse to leave?

>>32909621
An entire board of discussion dedicated to Virtual Youtubers is plenty of "space"

Why do you morons keep bringing up Touhou? All the Touhou threads still survived when Tubers got set loose yet you act like they were the ones complaining. It was all the niche threads that got fucked, this is why people don't like you.

>>32909700
One or two threads don't have the power to define a board's culture, regardless of how new it is.

>>32909734
The niche threads died when the mods and /qa/ decided to ruin everything. Sure, the posting volume was lopsided, but vtuber, denpa, train station fans, etc were all living together in relative harmony before that.

>>32909737
Still, if they don't take a stance now, it will be too late by the time the /qa/ncer gets tired of spamming oranges.

>>32909697
That's an old example. Nowadays a new board for something doesn't mean it's forbidden wherever it used to be. You see pokemon threads, RPG threads, and /vg/ type stuff on /v/ all the time for instance. It's very unlikely this will be different. But the board speed has already slowed down a lot, I wouldn't worry about it.

>>32909833
Pokemon threads get routinely moved to /vp/ and even when they're on /v/ they aren't flooding the board.

>>32909657
>their posting culture is more in line with /jp/
Bullshit. The posting on their squatting threads here and the threads on /vt/ are exactly the same and nothing like /jp/ posters. You aren't fooling anyone.

>>32909793
They weren't. Everyone wanted vtubers gone since it was obvious what a cancer they were from the start.

>>32909621
>Popular things should have more discussion space.
I agree which is why vtuber threads should be removed so we can discuss other otaku culture topics without getting kicked off the board in a few hours

>>32909833
>That's an old example
It's the perfect example to describe what vtubers are to the board and is still relevant today. Vtubers are the ponyfags of /jp/ and now that they have /vt/ they should be treated the same when they venture out of it. This is like if ponyfags had ponymods on staff and prevented GR15 from being implemented so they could shit up both /co/ and /mlp/ indefinitely.

>>32910054
Yeah, I'm sure that the train station thread was simply abuzz with how much they hated having 4 vtuber threads on a board that is practically overflowing with 3DPD garbage.

>>32909621
There's no more "space" than an entire board for yourselves. You might as well enjoy it and fuck off from /jp/.
>>>/vt/

>>32909833
>You see pokemon threads, RPG threads, and /vg/ type stuff on /v/ all the time for instance.
I sure do.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/vp/capcode/mod/

Not only did all the worst posters migrate to the new boards, making ホロライブ way more comfy, the mods are actually doing their job now and post quality is way up. I am very happy.

>>32910136
3DPD needs to be removed as well, but even at their worst they were never as bad as vtubers were in the span of just a few months. You deal with the biggest cancer tumors first.

/jp/fags realize that once /hlg/ leaves your shitty board will be viewing the same threads for 6 months, right?
20posts/day, right?
slow your lane you fucking peasants. we're the reason your board even returned to relevance for a brief period of time. we're your makers.

Never goin' anywhere

>>32910269
absolutely devilish

>>32910125
It's not a matter of whether they like the content or not, but whether it falls within the already existing rules. Rule 15 isn't something they want to emulate for each new fad. Most boards don't have a strong opinion on vtubers, it's only places like /a/, /v/, and /jp/ that dislike them. You could say, "Fuck the rules it's for the best" but that's not how things are run. Vtubers on /jp/ break literally no rules, it's otaku culture, so there are 99% odds it's going to stay.

>>32910262
Yes, and that's how we like it. That's how it's always been and how it always should be.

>>32910207
Then go complain about the moderation staff and /qa/. They're the ones who intentionally decided to let vtubers shit up the whole board. I get the feeling the idolfags would have done the same thing during their heyday if the mods allowed it.

>>32910262
Yes, and that's a good thing. If you honestly can't understand the appeal of that, you'll probably be more at home with the posters on /vt/.

You’ll never get rid of us, vtubers will always be otaku culture.
2hu is garbage by the way, ZUN is a hack.

>>32910303
>>32910321
and it's never going to go back to your faggot normalcy because /hlg/ is here to stay.
/vt/ isn't a containment thread. and if you think the meidos will forcefully evict us off of /jp/ you're delusional. none of us are leaving either - the thread is more active than it used to be.
we brought your shitty board back from the brink of death, and it's going to stay that way. kneel. we're the new faces and culture of /jp/.

>>32910288
vtubers are not true otaku culture, they are appropriating otaku culture

>>32910262
we literally don't even look at your threads so there would be 0 loss for everyone else

>>32910345
This, only the 2hu porn and fan works are okay. Actual games just play Cave shmups lmao

>>32910288
Anime also happens to be otaku culture and yet I don't see any threads about it in the board.
You know damn well that these half-assed rules are pointless, too. Why would any sane person make a board for a subject if people can just continue spamming it as much as before on the board where it's seen as a problem? There's a difference between treating boards as containment and them having a reason to exist, it's really fucking easy to not treat /vt/ as a containment board while still enforcing its usage but mods apparently don't want to commit to anything because who fucking knows why, but I really hope it's not because some of the mods are so into vtubers that they're the ones who don't want to leave their generals on /jp/ despite how likely that possibility is.

>>32910288
They're going to bitch and moan for a month and then shut up and take it, not much point in arguing with them

>>32910345
>>32910353
Please continue shitposting like that, my feedback is going to look great thanks to you.

>>32910353
If you're seriously going to stick with that mindset, you should fuck off to /vt/, and I say that as an /hlg/ poster.

>>32910405
you sound like the faggot in elementary school that always told on the teacher when anything remotely impartial happened to you
keep crying. it wont do shit. /hlg/ isn't hurting anyone.

>>32910405
Don’t worry, i’m sure all the posts in this thread were some of you admit to come to our threads and shit them up will look great too.
Be glad your garbage IP hasn’t been kicked to /trash/ yet.

>>32910288
>Rule 15 isn't something they want to emulate for each new fad
It's appropriate for this one.
>Most boards don't have a strong opinion on vtubers, it's only places like /a/, /v/, and /jp/ that dislike them
So the most relevant boards that have had to deal with vtubers hate them. That should tell you something.
>Vtubers on /jp/ break literally no rules
They have their own board, they should fuck off to it and leave everyone else alone.

>>32910414
>trying to be buddy buddy with the faggots trying to evict you

>>32910399
Just like people bitched and moaned for a month after that retarded mod infighting took place, until /vt/ was created?

>>32910405
Low energy bitch. Not leaving, never will.

>>32910438
There were only meta threads for a few days before people accepted it.

>>32910415
If it won't do shit, why does your first sentence makes it look like you're afraid of something?
>/hlg/ isn't hurting anyone.
And yet here you are with a completely hostile mindset, stupid enough to the point where you got called out by someone from the same general you claim to frequent.
>>32910427
You mean the few posts saying that they keep getting immediately deleted from the vtuber generals? Yeah, they sure look less cancerous than a bunch of "hahaha you can't do shit we're staying because we can".
Consider the following: nobody would hate your kind if you didn't give people reasons to hate you, but since being an asshole is the only way you know how to act on the internet, here you are giving people even more reasons to despise you. As I mentioned previously, feel free to keep acting like that. You aren't annoying anyone, tou're only harming your own case, and I'm thankful for that.

>>32910454
By all means, keep proving his point that spiteful tubeshitters continue to exist here to stir up shit.

>>32910356
That's not how Japanese see it
>>32910391
There could be anime threads on /jp/ if anyone wants them.
>because who fucking knows why
I told you why, that's the only reason. The idea is that moderation needs to be consistent and stick only to the actual rules, which is why individual vtuber threads were allowed in December and why they're still allowed now. It's a trend in otaku culture, so unsurprisingly if people want to talk about it on /jp/ it will get a lot of traffic. From a mod's perspective probably the only way it could happen is if circumstances forced containment into a necessity. How that would happen I dunno, but that's the only way probably

>>32910456
Or laid low, sending feedback regularly asking mods to do something about it, while complaining about the situation in any chance people found to do so outside of making threads about it. /vt/'s existence is proof that people didn't just "accept it", the fact that you're being constantly told to leave even more so.

My filtered threads went from almost 50 to slightly over 20. Thank fug for /vt/.

>>32910553
And yet I don't see anyone making anime threads. Why do you think that is? Try to use your brain, I know you have one.
By the way, all the circumstances surrounding the day where the vtuber containment threads were breached completely prove you wrong so there's no point in trying to do that level of revisionism.

>>32910558
Why do you think you have so much power? It's not like the mods were unaware of the situation.

>>32910591
>Why do you think that is?
They would rather post on /a/. There were a couple anime threads on here a week or two ago that stayed up. If they want to use /jp/, they can.
>all the circumstances surrounding the day where the vtuber containment threads were breached completely prove you wrong
That was before /vt/ was a thing. The point is that since /vt/ exists, most of the newfags interested in vtubers will post there, and traffic for vtubers will be low enough on /jp/ that it won't be a problem. So unless vtubers have to be literally forced out of /jp/ for some kind of reason it's not going to happen, probably.

>>32910524
/hlg/ isn't hurting anyone is evidence that they will not be evicted. the meidos will see no issue with their existence.
you can moan and bitch all you want on feedback, but hlg is here to stay, faggot. and you know it.

>>32910667
>and traffic for vtubers will be low enough on /jp/ that it won't be a problem
but it isn't. Threads are still dying in 12 hours.

>>32910697
>unless vtubers have to be literally forced out
Keep that in mind. /jp/ having a speed increase isn't a big deal to the mods, 12 hours is still a lot

>>32910721
Generals used to last for days, 12 hours is like an 8 fold reduction in thread life. Absolutely unacceptable from a thread discussion point of view.

There are currently 17 vtuber related threads with more than 10 posts in the catalog, I think that's pretty clear evidence that it's allowed here. I don't think they're going to straight up ban it.

>>32910617
Mods asked for feedback on how to deal with the situation. All I'm doing is giving them what they want, especially the part where ill-intentioned people want to keep shitting /jp/ up, to help them make a decision.

>>32910667
Just come to /vt/ you faggot. You act like a reclusive elitist, but the reclusive elitists don't want you here either.
>>32910781
Please do. You can even use the malicious posts here as proof.

>>32910669
>/hlg/ isn't hurting anyone
They are flooding /jp/ as they always have and are going into other threads to troll the other residents of the board. They are cancer and need to leave. Don't hide behind shill staff. It's time to move.

>>32910667
>traffic for vtubers will be low enough on /jp/ that it won't be a problem
>>32910239
>>32900989
>>32900554
>>32898576
>>32897624
>>32896706
>>32895387
>>32890562
>>32887606
>>32887288
>>32884464
Why am I still seeing so many of the solo threads that caused this entire problem in first place then? If you manage to convince everyone to stick to a few generals like how things were before last month, far fewer people will mind you staying here, even though it wouldn't make much sense especially because your threads would be fragmented to hell.

>>32910807
New poster on this thread but I just heard about this and was over at /vt/ for a couple hours today. It's kinda lame. Seems like discussion(as good as it can be) from the /hlg/ and /hlgg/ threads from /jp/ has basically devolved and the board is filled with trolling.

Seems like mods are pushing western/EN fans to /vt/ and letting JP fans stay here. Redirecting to /vt/ gets deleted in ホロライブ but gets left up in global. Not a bad compromise, really

>>32910771
They shouldn't be allowed here. They have their own board just like pokemon, ponies and /pol/trash do. Vtubers should all be herded into their board and banned when they leave it.

>>32910769
Much better than 2-4 hour archival times at least. It's not an immediate situation that requires reinterpreting the rules or making a new one
>>32910852
There was still a huge dropoff, and it'll probably decrease some more.

>>32910906
Do you make the rules?

>>32910919
This happened every time there was a new board split. Go be new on your new board.

>>32910910
Sure. But it hasn't, and that's the problem. That's why people are still telling you to leave, because the problem still hasn't been solved since you keep making threads while claiming that you're innocent.
That's why you need to leave, because you can't look after yourselves.

>>32910933
You didn't answer my question.

>>32910883
/vt/ is for all vtubers no matter how you try to split them. The shill mods know that but they are fanwhoring faggots that don't want to leave, so they have you retards parrot their flimsy excuses for why you should overstay your welcome here.

>>32910959
Do you make the rules?

>>32910946
I think only the people in the generals really want to stay, the others are probably troll threads. I get why you want them out anyway, but I'm just explaining why it's not likely to happen

>>32909302
>Threads are now lasting 11-12 hours
nothing compared to the 3-5 months of before

>>32910919
>>32910969
Given how mods are listening to feedback, then yes, in fact.

>>32910919
Those are the rules for every new board created, even /jp/ when it happened. Suspicious why this one in particular seems to have problems doing the same. Most communities are very happy to get their new home to make their own, but for some reason vtubers and their shills want to continue squatting here like it's their place. It isn't, go to your home on /vt/.

>>32910987
>>32910990
Wrong. You don't make the rules. The staff make the rules.

>>32910969
You have no arguments or excuses anymore. Just leave and make this easier for all of us.

>>32910999
The staff, while listening to feedback from the board's users. And I'm an user giving feedback.

>>32910910
Threads were almost never bumped off that fast. It just went from 9-10 hours to 11-12 hours, which is nothing. What a joke.

>>32890232
>>32890648
>>32892781
>>32899616
>>32899980
>>32900143
>>32905658
>>32909287
>>32909314
>>32909345
>>32909632
>>32909688
who are you quoting?

i hope mods are reading this thread

>>32890232
>>32890648
>>32892781
>>32899616
>>32899980
>>32900143
>>32905658
>>32909287
>>32909314
>>32909345
>>32909632
who are you quoting?

>>32911002
There are very valid arguments, you just happen to suffer from extreme mental illness and are not capable of processing them.

>>32911071
>There are very valid arguments
Like what? Your EN vs JP squabble argument fell flat, your "we are allowed to shit up two boards at once" is bullshit, your otaku culture red herring was exposed. You have nothing besides "nah, I'm staying to spite /jp/ residents".
Fuck off to your new home.

>>32911168
They want to stay because the new board looks like shit, at least right now it does

>>32911168
It's a niche otaku hobby that's been on this board since its inception. Lots of vtuber oldfags are long time /jp/sies. That's why all the /v/ kids from global went to the new board while the JP fans have stayed.

>>32910990
Hiya! /hlgg/ here. Many of the stragglers, especially this autist, is probably one of those many doxxniggers who exploit this board's definition of doxx to post the identities of these vtubers. It is within their self-interest if the vtuber community stays here, so they can run amok. /vt/'s rules about this are different and their posts are deleted on sight, and it seriously hampers their plans. You must understand, /jp/, they are not arguing out of good faith and never will. They will use every trick in the book to fool you. Do not believe their lies. Kick them out and reclaim your homes.

Thank you for your hospitality, /jp/. I have enjoyed my stay but this place is not for me. I apologize for the damages we've caused, and I hope good fortunes to you all.

>>32911228
What a surprise that a new board about a topic that's looked down upon by most of the site is full of shitposting.

>>32911272
Then you are expelled from the community you no longer participate in. If you want to talk about 2hus or whatever else, go back here. Else, get your shit in /vt/ and stay there.

>>32911302
But we weren't expelled. You're either making shit up or hallucinating.

>>32911315
Nobody wants you here. Nobody. Now you have a place to stay. You have no excuse.

>>32911228
That's not an excuse. It's the shit they created. You don't get to squat because you don't like your own community. Fuck off from /jp/ and fix your own house while /jp/ cleans up the mess you've made here.
>>32911272
>It's a niche otaku hobby that's been on this board since its inception.
No it hasn't. Vtubers were not here over a decade. Most of you are /v/faggots that should have never been allowed here in the first place yet you still squat here. Your vtuber gods aren't even from JP platforms like Nico, but youtube. You aren't oldfags and you don't belong here. Get out.

>>32911274
That actually makes a lot of sense.

>>32911337
>they
Nah, why would they shit up their own board? If you think the fans of the Japanese community are bad, the Western ones are much worse

>>32911274
Enjoy your new home, I hope you are able to make it into something you could be proud of going forward. The stragglers will be taken care of once we here keep pressure on them. Take care, anon.

>>32911362
>why would they shit up their own board?
Because they want an excuse to stay on /jp/. Force them all into /vt/ and make them deal with their own shit themselves or fuck off from 4chan.

>>32911274
Judging by this thread: >>32898576 you are completely right.

>>32911700
gone

Stop making individual hololive threads as a falseflag 2hufags, it’s not going to work.

Why do the mods love taking the piss out of /jp/ so much? Even when they decide to fix one of the board's problems, they can't help themselves and just have to, yet again, give /jp/sies the middle finger.

>>32911014
Staff are rouge.

>tfw still bumping vtuber threads as retaliation for the 2hu nigger that keeps spamming his totally off topic blue fairy girl in /sfg/

Control your autists and maybe everyone won't hate you.

>>32914396
Who are you quoting?

>>32914396
Just go home, already. If you want to participate in the culture creation of this new board that WILL affect you in the future, it's in your best interest to go there and join in the discourse. Things will change, whether you like it or not, so you might as well seize the damn initiative. You don't want to be left out as you slowly rot in a house you do not own growing more irrelevant by the day. Your tools for gatekeeping are useful to filter newfags and your fast library of knowledge of the JP side of Hololive would be helpful to correctly orient those who decide to stay. Come on anon, control your future. Leave /jp/ and join /vt/.

You are overstaying your welcome. Stop bothering them.

>>32911854
It doesn't matter what kind of narrative you make up, just looking at the catalog regularly makes it clear that there's no focused falseflagging attack happening, and vtuberfags are making new threads regularly out of their own volition. Whether it's out of spite or ignorance, that however is a mystery.