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jacqli is the best of the atii girls
but the ops drawing
is complete
and utter
shit

fucking imagedumpers

>>3280939

u mad?

>>3280942
Very. At least dump something that isn't from a shitty jrpg.

>>3280946

Ar Tonelico is more like a VN with gameplay.

>>3280949
No. Fuck off ZUN!bar.

>>3280951

cool story bro

I'm actually playing the first Ar tonelico at the moment.

Why is there no Shurelia route? ;_;

>>3280961

AT 1 has no routes at all. Just play the sequel, in it your decisions actually decide which reyvateil you get at the end.

>>3280966
Protip:
It does.

Jacqli is my waifu

Why is she dressed like a slut ?

>>3281002

So, just out of curiosity, who in their right fucking minds collects all of the Ar tonelicards? I mean...that's a lot of money to grind out, holy shit.

>>3280939
>implying this is not an imageboard

HOW ABOUT A MOEBOMB

Jakuri's ending was cash. (Although Cocona's was fine, too...)

The only thing I reproach both games though... NO KISSES?? ONLY HUGS? FUCK YOU.

>>3281050
I got a couple from Lyra's searches nanoda~
Just give her a 1OO crystal, she'll go nuts in the Plasma Bell or wherever super difficult, and you might get one card nanoda~
At worst you'll get another 1OO to reuse on her, nanoda~

>>3281144
>The only thing I reproach both games though... NO KISSES?? ONLY HUGS? FUCK YOU.

so true.... goddamit why it has to be so, thats one of the most important things in these games and they left it out

Jacqli's great, she's gone through all the hell the other two girls have gone through and more, but she doesn't bitch about it.

I actually liked Luca because she did whine about it, because she's so damn realistic. Cloche wasn't bad either, just not as good because I have a strong hate for tsundere characters.

>>3281255
Yeah, it was hard to make a pick, because they were all great in some way or another. Started with Luca, then Cloche, and finally Jacqli.

I generally dislike tsunderes too, but Cloche turned out to be great nevertheless, probably because she eased up a lot more throughout the game. But in the end, Jacqli beats them all <3

>>3281255
The problem with Luca is, whatever quality she has or event you sympathize with, the other characters do it better or face worse.
She also whines a lot and is generally shown to have a worse character, even in her spheres.
I'm pretty sure the director did NOT like her much.

>>3281323
>I'm pretty sure the director did NOT like her much.
I wouldn't doubt it, none of the guys who worked on the first game liked Shurelia at all either.

>>3281330
Shurelia did get good plot importance, interactions and sphere events, she just didn't get a route/many exclusive events.
Not the same thing.

They bring down every aspect of Luca in almost any manner possible.

I meant that it wasn't impossible for the devs to have disliked Luca since they have admitted in an interview none of them liked Shurelia.

But yes, Shurelia was still pretty likeable, she was just really dull and always acted the same once she removed her awesome robot suit.

>>3281406
...They admitted that?
The point is, even if they didn't care, they didn't ruin her and make every other character and event upstage her.

Yes yes, I understand, I just meant that you're probably right because... Ah, whatever.

http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=147&start=0#interviews
Here's said interview, Ctrl+F Page 121.

Ar tonelico is awsome, but only the first game.
I hate Mir, ungrateful bitch. I go out of my way to save her and allow her the chance of a normal life, then she fucks off and hooks up with some other guy in the second game? Bitches & whores man.

>>3281443
>Herp derp.

Herp derp.

>>3281432
A bit surprising.
But I can understand liking Misha/Aurica more.
While Luca seems like she was fucking raped.
I persist on this point cause I liked her design mostly, and it's sad to end up liking all other Reyvateils better.

>>3281451
Whats wrong? Cant form a valid argument?
Misha>Shurelia>Aurica>forget all the rest.
Lyner was a god damn bro, that other queer with the feather in his hair and glasses sucked ass.
As if girls could ever like someone like him. The fact that Mir even liked him amazes me, theres no character development there what so ever, She should be with lyner, period.

>>3281464
agreed.

>>3281443
lol, why not? Lyner was taken by Aurica (or whoever's your favorite) anyway, so... (and you totally miss the point why she actually went to Metafalss... well, she's going back now anyway, though...

-- anyway
I had always been wondering what time in the past her many comments about scary bathing experiences was referring to, well listen to the AT Drama CD side.Extra... heh.

>>3281469
what? Not me, even though, i wont disagree with your post.

Cross edge says Ar tonelico 1 was better, dont bother them about it because its true.
Dont see any of the shitty toons from the second game in there do you know???

>>3281481
Cross edge sucks balls though.

>>3281464
>>3281469
>>3281475
>>3281481
Obvious samefag is obvious. First game wasn't bad, but the second one was a lot better in almost everything and you're ignoring it just because the main character actually had to do things himself to get his women.

She's awesome (one of the better JRPG characters actually) but that's what happens when you develop a character over the course of two games. I hope she will be back for AT3.

>>3281443
but he isn't awesome enough to sing for his girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-AxZ7fOBTc

Yay, my thread is still alive! I think I have some left to dump.

I'm glad /jp/ likes Jacqli. She's all moe and awesome and DFC unlike those other two shitbags.

>>3283902
Fuck you

>>3282908
I still can't believe the devs don't like Shurelia. DFC tsundere done right with just the right amount of clumsy moe and cute food preparation. ;_;

>>3283917

No u

>>3283948
her cosmosphere was so cheesy that it was awesome

>>3283984
Hahaha, I loved it. However, I was surprised that there was no "Leila running late to school was toast in her mouth" scene. I was honestly waiting for it the entire time (well, I've only completed three levels of it, so it might still be forthcoming!)

No Shurelia route is what makes AT 2 superior. I really hated Aurica and Misha.

Cloche is only tolerable because her CV is awesome. She's the same as Shinku, right?

>>3283998
Errr...
>with toast in her mouth.

I love typos.

Only god character in the whole AT series is Cocona.
And I really hope you can fuck her in the next game.

>>3284015
I actually liked Misha quite a bit. Although, I prefer when she acts coy in her loli form instead of her incredibly dependent behavior exhibited when she's in her adult form.

Also, her Elfir costume is bloody adorable.

Worst character was Aurica.
What was her place in the plot anyways?
Except being a needy bitch of course.

>>3284035

Cocona was good, just not as good. And even if she returns, there's no point anymore since it's not Croix who'll hook up with her.

>>3284044
I'll be honest; I didn't really like Aurica. She got really annoying, really fast.

But her behavior in the 6th level of her cosmosphere was downright delicious. Chaining Lyner to the bed so he would only be with her; all while ensuring that she was the only girl he would ever need. If only she was actually yandere outside of this event. ;_;

Her swimsuit gave me a humongous boner the first time I saw it. I almost whipped out my cock and started masturbating right there at the living room.

no-one finds it hilarious that Luca's magical girl form is "Cherry"?

>>3284090
Luca's presence makes me frown.

I am disappoint at the lack of scans for Jacqli doujins

I demand more loli and cp!

Sure is awesome thread here

>>3284286

This thread is not for dirty pedophiles.

Myr>Cloche>Misha>Shurelia>Best Friend>Aurica.

The greatest problem with AT1 is the lack of organized routes. Being able to complete both girls Cosmosphere at the same time was such a huge flaw it got me wondering what the hell were the makers thinking. What's the point of making two routes if you can have everything?

Aurica was really a turn off. Her depressed atitude throughout the game was VERY annoying. She's just emo: "Boo, I'm incompetent, no one likes me". And that poor plot twist was ridiculous. Misha at least had real troubles to whine about (though I can't see how becoming a loli can be bad). I was disappointed at how badly Shurelia's route was made, though that final battle with Myr was fucking A.

AT2 was much better overall. Not only the game was longer (admit it, the first one was too shor for it's own good), but it also had better stuff and was more well structured. Limited Cosmosphere depending on what route you were, interessing battle system, more video sequences.

The protagonist was actually nice. Yeah, Lyner was a bro, but Croix is a better man. Cloche's route was really good to play, with some pretty realistic events. I won't comment much on Luca since I haven't played her route yet, but until now she looks like an evolved Aurica. Now, Jacqli...she is just awesome. And badass. Cocona was DO WANT

Then there are the hymnos. Holy fuck, that's a tough matter. Both games had awesome musics. AT1 had less hymnos, but they were on an epic level. AT2 had more music, but only a few were as good as AT1's.

Also, HARMONIOUS and REPLAKIA, best two hymnos of both games.

>>3284303
Ehh...Lyner...

He's alright, I guess. He can be a pretty good bro, but the sheer thickness of his school and vapid stupidity of some of his comments really makes me want to claw my eyes out in frustration. I never thought I'd meet a protagonist more fucking dense than Shirou.

>>3284303
Ehh...Lyner...

He's alright, I guess. He can be a pretty good bro, but the sheer thickness of his skull and vapid stupidity of some of his comments really makes me want to claw my eyes out in frustration. I never thought I'd meet a protagonist more fucking dense than Shirou.

>>3284300
There are only clean ones here!

>>3284335
>I never thought I'd meet a protagonist more fucking dense than Shirou.
Misha: hey Lyner you could use this sleeping drug on someone you like
Lyner: Not sure I'm following you here

I can't see how people can choose Lyner over Croix. Lyner was the generic I GOTTA SAVE THE WORLD kind of dude while Croix was just WHOOPS I HELPED YOU FUCK THE WORLD BUT THAT'S JUST HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU

>>3284366
Misha: A metal frame is stronger than wood, so I'd feel a lot safer. Oh, and I want it to be a really big house, too. As time goes by, we'll need space for...
Lyner: I really don't understand what you're talking about, but maybe when I get better at melding...

godfuckingdammit

>>3284381
>WHOOPS I HELPED YOU FUCK THE WORLD BUT THAT'S JUST HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU

Ah, yes, Gaia. That part was awesome.

The problem I had with Luca was that she was a bigger bitch than Cloche. Cloche had been trapped in her role, and was trying to save the world, while Luca turned out to be a manipulative little cunt who was using everybody to save her sister.

And then it turns out that Cloche was tortured into doing whatever the church wanted, so I never had any regrets about going with the Cloche path on the initial split.

That said, AT2 was still trash. I'm so glad they seem to have dropped that franchise to spew out a billion half-assed Atelier games. God forbid they keep developing the Mana Khemia battle engine instead of taking giant steps backwards.

>>3284402
Misha: Anyway, I finally get it. Lyner, rather than full adult ladies, it seems like you prefer younger girls like me.
Lyner: Um...I beg you not to say that out in public.
Misha: Don't worry. No matter what your preferences are, I'll never call the authorities on you. And it's more convenient being small. Even if we're really close to each other, I don't think anyone will really care.
Lyner: ...Just don't push our luck. I'm already afraid of getting caught.

I love Misha so much.

>>3284429
>church
>Cloche

wat
>they seem to have dropped that franchise

Fuck, no! ;_;

>>3284429

I find AT rather enjoying if you see it as a VN with limited gameplay. In the end almost all jrpgs are like that, but at least AT doesn't try too hard to be epic like Final Fantasy shit, it just wants to be a cute eyecandy with lots of fanservice and innuendo.

I'm fine with that.

>>3284435
A little more reviling.

>>3284438
shes pissed at Lyner for having a schoolgirl fetish if you make her wear the schoolgirl uniform alot

>>3284450
That's what AT1 was. AT2 was an awful mess made even worse by one of the worst localizations done in the last decade. I think only maybe Chaos Wars was worse. There's a serious problem when the last boss can be one-shot by a relatively regular attack before it gets its second move.

at3? when did this happen? isn't tokyo game show in a few weeks?

>>3284488
There's an interview with a Gust employee that said they were working on AT3, but then almost everything he described ended up being in the new PS3 Atelier game and they never mentioned anything about AT since, so draw your own conclusions.

>>3284520
they could just be being lazy with new gameplay elements

>>3284520
well that sucks. the ending set everything up for a new game with cocona as the protagonist. it would have been cool

>>3284552

But then, would the reyvatails be males?

By the way hows the new atelier game?

>>3284577

What a narrow mind. I'm pretty sure they stated in the game that only girls are capable of holding the Reyvateil gene.

謳う丘～Salavec rhaplanca.～

In the meantime, let's all learn Hymmnos, shall we.

Was jyel gagis teyys, /jp/

btw where can I download the hymmnos font?

>>3284605
I personally don't like it all that much, but most of Japan seems to. The alchemy's more fun, but the battle engine is really awful and a step back from anything in the Iris series.

>>3284892
the new one has an all-loli cast right?

>>3284912
Not really. Just to be clear, I'm talking about Rorona for the PS3, not Annie for the DS. I don't remember Annie having too many boobs though.

I wonder how Shurelia and friends would handle Mir coming home with Croix

>>3284964
With contempt and pity.

>>3284996
more like envy, since she couldn't get one in her "young" life *cough*

My playthrough of AT2

>Jacqli sure is odd.
later
>Whoa she's actually mir. Guess that explains her eccentricities.
>I can dive into her?
>*luca cosmosphere lv6*
>FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

/jp/ looks so wierd if you change it to hymmnos

I think this is the best thread I have seen on /jp/ in a long fucking time. Jacqli is hotter than the sun.

so hot

>>3285198

Oh fuck....Want to hug, badly.

>>3285218

moe-moe fanart of Mir isn't out of character because she wants to be the pure little girl on the inside

Who's that?

>>3280838

Thank you OP, from the bottom of my heart.

>>3285312
I'm not the OP

>>3285321

But without the OP, none of this would be possible.

>>3285334
My two favorites.

the good thing of AT games against other jrpgs, is that you choose the better girl instead of being fixed in the shitty female lead

i'm looking at you FF8

image limit reached~

>>3285411

Is this duck?

>>3285426
It's Thomas Jefferson.

>i'm looking at you FF8

More like I'm looking at you every Final Fantasy ever made.

This was a good thread. And what's not to love about Mir/Jacqli.

I really like how the designers were quite bold with her costumes, specially the default one.

>>3285461
IIRC if you read the artist comments in the game it says that her outfits were really pushing just how lewd she could be

>>3285461
The miros one and the bikini were freakin hawt.

>>3285461

It's impossible to hide Mir's sexyness so they might as well show it off.

Mir's sexiness is a miracle of the universe

>>3285426

Haven't heard that in a while.

>>3285549
>in a while.
More like fucking forever, old meme is oooooold
inb4 Thomas Jefferson

>>3285578

You meant in after right? heh

Ironically, listening to Turn Me On by De/Vision as I stared at quite a few of these pics. Very appropriate.

this thread crushed my nutbladder

>>3285933

No kidding. This kind of quality needs to happen more often.

>>3286069
Its because we all have such different tastes, and yet /jp/ comes together for the dfc lolis.

Awesome thread. I guess I'll make a Jakuri folder; Inudrill sure loves his 2D waifu.

>>3285334
>>3285367
For some reason I don't like how Aurica and Mir/Jakuri share the same voice actor. It sounds weird to me sometimes.

Also damn, Lyner was dense.

>>3286582
>Also damn, Lyner was dense.

No kidding.
People make fun of shirou for that and exaggerate how dense he really.
I mean, come one now.
He wasn't THAT slow.

It's as if Gust took that as a challenge and actually made the embodiment of our jokes.

>>3286669
Misha: Hey Lyner, nice of you to stop by again. Maybe tonight we can have consensual sex in the missionary position for both pleasure and reproductive purposes!
Lyner: ...I'm sorry?

>>3286582

Thank God they left the Japanese vocal track on AT as an option, because the English voices are fucking dreadful.

>>3286669
Misha: Hey Lyner, nice of you to stop by again. Maybe tonight we can have consensual sex in the missionary position for both pleasure and reproductive purposes!
Lyner: ...I'm sorry?

>>3286695

He'd probably try to shove a grathnode crystal between her legs.
"OWW LYNER STOP FFFFFFFFFF"
"I guess this is an auxiliary install port! This extra-large S-rank crystal must really hurt, huh. Why isn't it disappearing yet? I'll try shoving it in farther."

so...when is the 3rd game comming? maybe if you guys buy more Gust games.

>>3286719
Lyner: Misha's been acting really strange towards me. She always leans up against me and touches me when we talk alone at night while sitting on the same bed. I wonder if she's upset about something...

Note: This is a paraphrase of events that still occur after seeing her UNDYING, UNWAVERING LOVE FOR HIM that's rooted deep in the fiber of her fucking being. Lyner is a goddamn dumbass.

>>3286728

True, but it would be nice if NIS America showed their desire for Americans to buy Gust games by having some fucking quality standards when it comes to translating them.

Is the second game worth playing now or should I wait for the retranslation to finish?

>>3286750
At least their translations aren't fully of typos and shitty text (I'm looking at you, Mangagamer). Sure, they're not all that great in some places, but it's a decent job at least.

>>3286750
when it comes to translation, do most ppl really know enough japanese to figure out if its miss-translation or not? i played it just fine in my view.

>>3286768

You don't have to know Japanese to know clunky, ungrammatical English when you see it. Still, as >>3286759 says AT is nowhere near stuff like Edelweiss or Kira Kira when it comes to bad translation.