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>can never be saved

>>3269428
Why can't there be doujin of Adult Rin and Archer fucking?! Those gloves are . . . hot.

>>3269407

This thread will most likely be a clusterfuck.

I'm interested in how they're going to weave all of UBW into 90 minutes (or whatever it was). I guess they could remove all the cooking scenes (and "Remember that fire" scenes), but if they did that, they might not have enough content to fill 90 minutes (kidding). I wonder if there will be any mana transfer? I guess it's not integral to the plot, but it would be cool. I'm going to baww if they have the scene where Ilya gets her heart ripped out through.

>>3269428
This is how the UBW movie should end. Seriously.

I can't wait to get the PSP F/UC game English edition so I can know what the fuck happened in that story.

Plus, Gil purring "Faker" at Archer's pretty hot.

I am bone Rin.

>Ilya gets her heart ripped out
I certainly hope so.

>>3269445
She grows up to be quite a mature looking woman.

They'd better have the awesomely erotic Lancer VS Archer fight. Then again, that's one of the more iconic parts of the game.

>>3269407
>"I am bone, Rin."

What?

>>3269467
How the hell do we get a doujin with Archer fucking Adult Rin?! Or rather, her fucking him because you know she'd be the "top" in that relationship. Come on, "Obey Me" command anyone.

Archer being in a relationship with anyone really ruins his character for me. He should forever be a loner, and miserable.

>>3269474


>>3269460

One of the hottest pictures of Archer ever.

Dispute me.

>>3269459

>Gil purring "Faker"

I'd more like to see Archer's mad laugh when Saber try to tell him to atone for his sins.

>>3269483
Yes, he's a great tragic character, but . . . Damn it, there's only so much abuse you can heap upon him. Nasu's worse than Joss Whedon in this context.

Dude, if Whedon wrote FSN . . .

>>3269488
Which is odd because Archer NEVER SINNED.

If anything, he died for others sins.

Saber should just STFU.

I'm not sure about the movie.
I mean, the anime held most of the story fine but 90 minutes for the entire UBW sounds a bit...

>>3269487
Not bad at all.
>>3269496
Yeah I know, it'd be nice if he had one, but it just doesn't really feel like him. He's the token "My existence is miserable, and I messed my life up" character.

And the movie better have this scene in it, plus the whole "Idiot" argument.

>>3269469
unlikely, since the trailer already revealed they will be animating the Archer x Lancer from the prologue.

I do not think they will put the same fight onscreen twice, especially considering the total time they have, and if they do, don`t expect it to last too long.

>>3269509
That picture makes me want to hug him.

Get hype.

how did Shirou became a Nigger with White hair?

>>3269504

Well, if there're any sins he did it was against the people he didn't save.

But he's right in that he has already atoned for his sins in his death.

>>3269520
(*´ω｀) He is very huggable.

>>3269513
I'd much rather have Shirou telling Lancer not to touch Rin.

LOOK AT THESE SHOULDERS LIKE A BARN DOOR GODDAMN

>>3269532
By projecting the wrong way too much.

So, with a UBW movie on its way, does anyone else think a Heaven's Feel anime adaptation is also coming?

Dat finale...

>>3269562
lol no

>Type-moon's most tragic character
>Archer

No

Sakura's dad is the most tragic character.

>>3269589
He's not doomed to an eternity of torture is he?

>>3269562
The problem with that is that no one would care. HF is shit terrible.

It would be all cooking scenes anyways.

>>3269581
Who would you say is then?

>>3269601
I agree, everything before asking for Kotomine's help against Matou Zouken was shit. Everything after that, however, made up for it for me.

>>3269601
HF is fine.
Shirou is annoying though.
He held tightly into an ideal for 10 years and then he throws it away to save a ho .

>>3269601
"Alright, I just killed Saber and lost part of my heart."

"SEMPAI~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LET'S COOK SOMETHING, HEHE~"

HF movie would be ok if it went MIND OF STEEL route, with showing Shirou defeating all the other masters and such.

>>3269611

I'll give you that much, Kotomine manages to really redeem HF.

The only reason why I'd want to see HF is CURRY

>>3269647
You mean the Mapo Tofu scene?
All of Kotomine's scenes were good in HF.

>>3269509
How about this for a tragic story line:

Shirou's dead. Sakura's gone Dark and badshit, and gunning for Rin while going NomNom on Saber. So, we've already gotten Dark Saber and Caster eaten.

So, Archer realizes to save the world he has to man up and tell Rin everything. He tells her who he is, his story, etc and then they go out and fight the other Servants. Because Shirou's dead, he and Rin grow closer and closer to each other and their sexually tense banter turns softer.

To keep Zouken from winning, Lancer goes to help Archer and Rin. So we've got angry banter between the two of them as they have to fight together. Plus, Lancer noticing their relationship and chuckling over it.

Well, in a bout with Dark Sakura and Dark Saber, Rin gets her mana drained. So we get mana transferring sex between the two of them with the Master giving to the Servant. They confess their feelings, but it's bittersweet because Archer knows it can't be anything.

They end up killing Dark Sebia, with Lancer dying awesomely, Sakura has to die. Then they have to go take down Gilgamesh and Kotomine. Rin has an awesome mage, Black Key, Gem slinging, Kung-fu fight with Kotomine while Archer and Gil fight.

Archer BARELY manages to take down Gil because of Gil's ego and Rin kills Kotomine in rage after he tells her he killed her father.

However, by this time the Grail is already looking like Tetsudo and Archer traces Excalibur to destroy it, draining the rest of his mana.

He looks at Rin as he starts to fade and gives her his SMILE and confesses that he loves her and she's strong to move on. Then he's gone.

>>3269792
Cool Gary-Stu fanfiction bro

>>3269792
I've see you've taken after Nasu with the classic Gil: "I don't really know what to do with him, so I'll have him die an embarrassing death, because he's too powerful."

>>3269792
Sounds like an excuse to write emo fanfiction about Rin and Archer. With Lancer for added "snark", am I right?

But then again, this entire thread is built upon a flawed premise. Medea is a way more tragic character, and a cute elf besides.

>>3269818
You guys are too butthurt about Gil.
It's more embarrassing that he lost to Shirou rather than a black Shadow that devours anything.

>>3269407
>Type-Moon's most tragic character
But this doesn't look like a SHIKI thread at all!

>>3269835
Most of these characters lack the 'doomed for eternity to do what spits on everything they stood for in life', and Archer is an original creation so he stands out (any half-educated person should have known about Medea)

>>3269835

>Medea is a way more tragic character, and a cute elf besides.

>medea
>elf

Wait, what?

>>3269626
Why does everyone assume that Shirou's going to kill all the Masters?

Archer'd kill him if he went Mind of Steel without Saber backing him up.

sage for type-moon. go back to gaia.

>>3269870
Greeks and elves are very similar, he must have got confused

>>3269870

>>3269890
Medea was a barbarian.

>>3269870
No, I agree with Jones. She's got those ears man. I'd fuck her.

>>3269891

>implying that pointed ears = elf with no exceptions

I don't know what Nasu was on, but the mythology of the Hellenes tells us that Medea was born of man, and while she may have divine bloodlines thanks to her father's lineage, she certainly isn't mentioned to be an elf.

Of course, Nasu may have just inserted this somewhere and I missed it, but my understanding was that Medea is a Sorceress.

>>3269933
I think it may have just been Takeuchi saying "I don't think she's QUITE fetishy enough. I'll give her some elf ears to go with her bisexual, sadomasochistic, MILF status."

>>3269891
Lancer and Caster make a good couple

>>3269952


Playing on the whole Pointy Ears fetish thing, yeah.

But Medea being an ELF is news to me.

Elf, no exceptions

>>3269975
I'll just leave this here then.

>>3269963
I'd fuck both of them.

>>3269933

Are you implying that Nasu really knows anything about mythology instead of just taking bits and pieces just to make his characters look deep? Gilgamesh is undoubtedly rolling in his grave.

>>3269984

>>3270003
AS DO I! HYLIANS ARE ELVES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!

>>3269999

Gilgamesh doesn't give two shits, he's Gilgamesh. What some little slant-eye writes about him matters not, as the Epic of Gilgamesh lives on in museums.

The historical inaccuracies make me want to rage my eyes out of my skull, however.

>>3269999
Yes, a being with 3/4 divinity predating most humans when the fucking landscapes were almost different must look like a nigger.
Idiots.

>>3270013

>Yes, a being with 3/4 divinity predating most humans when the fucking landscapes were almost different must look like a nigger.

That's right.

>>3270011
Artistic license Arc.

>>3270011
You will notice F/SN runs on the LEGENDS built and not historical facts (which are minimal for most characters involved), since teh setting is fantasy and all. The only true historical person that was modified is Alexander, the rest are as real as G.I.JOE.

>>3270020
...Sure man.

>>3269999
It has nothing to do with making his characters look "deep."

>>3270026
Arthur is debatable.

>>3270013

Where did I ever say it was about the way he looked? Gilgamesh is absolutely nothing like the way he was in his epic.

>maybe we can have a discussion on Type-moon's most tragic character.
>Counter Guardian EMIYA.
This guy would like to have a word with you.

>>3270032
The only few historical references we have found place him on different countries and ages than his established myth(two different persons mixed in a different age than theirs).
Nothing debatable.
Legend is just that.

>>3270032
'King Arthur' didn't exist.

>>3270040
Even if he wasn't a god and we talk about King Gil, actual appearances are not like their crude representations.
And since the LEGEND is used, Gil in his grave just stays quiet.

>>3270026
"Bluebeard" was a real person. Gilles de Rais existed.

>>3270044
Uh... who is that?

>>3270040
He still has his gay lover!

>>3270064
What is attributed in the character did not happen.
There was prolly a Setanta, a chief Arthur, a king Gil, there was even a queen Medusa in Libya.
You get the point,

>>3270068
Read DDD nigger. Though it still isn't SHIKI level tragedy.

>>3270072
But you forget that Fate is set in an alternate universe where those things really DID happen and magic really DOES exist.

Arguing about the true history of events in Type-Moon settings using the reality of our world is staggeringly stupid.

>>3270026

>You will notice F/SN runs on the LEGENDS built

Dude, Nasu barely even pays the Legends any attention.

The biggest thing that fucked with my head was Arthur Pendragon being a Woman. As an avid fan of Arthurian legends, it bothered me a lot.

>>3270083
>I don't know about Saver and Ayaka

>>3270083
Wait what's this about Arther Pendragon being a woman?

>>3270083
So? Arthur didn't exist in the first place, whats the big deal if Nasu wrote Arthur as a girl?

>>3270092

>>3270079
I don't forget it at all. There are just idiots who say 'X spins at his grave or whatever' when most of the backstory and events of the legends are pretty accurate.
>>3270083
Considering that outside of the gender swap, almost everything else is the same, you complaints are flimsy.
You have the immortal king who becomes so by removing a sword from a slab of rock, fights armies alone, has a sheath that protects him, has a homunculus son that loves/hates him, has tons of magical weapons, chases holy grails, and is said to reside in an Island of apples till he returns to Britain.
'What if it was a woman' ruining your disposition is kinda retarded.

Basically, it's like this.

You're better off viewing FSN as a shounen/harem comedy with some Magical Girl elements. In this case, the characters happen to share names with people from mythology. Aside from that, they're completely different.

The valorous ARTHUR PENDRAGON, son of Uther, king of the Britons is a moe little blonde girl.

The fearsome snake-haired, loud roaring monster MEDUSA is a moe glasses-wearing oneechan.

The terrifying berserker Cuchulainn is a FAAAAABULOUS bodysuit-wearing Irishman who likes to fish.

If I took all of them as actually being the figures from history, I'd be frothing at the mouth with bestial rage.

>>3270111
I've always looked at Nasu's works (except DDD, and given the... dynamic between it's two mains that's debatable) as romances, so maybe that's why I'm not bothered by it.

>>3270105
Well, Rider having Bellerophon's bridle doesn't make any sense. Gilgamesh in almost ever sense doesn't scream historical accuracy. The rest are based, in some way, on the legends they were born from.

>>3270105

>You have the immortal king who becomes so

All of this is ruined by Nasu doing his classic idiocy and changing it around. There is no good reason why Arthur had to have been a woman. I consider that to be a large and very grave mark.

And also, the scenario you describes is but the bare minimum of Arthurian legend. Those are very basic, simple things that everyone knows, but what of the more intricate details that are all destroyed...because Nasu HAD to make Arthur a woman.

Madness.

>>3270111
>>If I took all of them as actually being the figures from history

They're figures from legend not figures from history.

>>3270121
Gil was kind of a dickhead in the original myth too, although obviously A: not as much of one and B: the ways in which he was a dick were very different.

>>3270111
That describes things mostly seen in F/HA, not F/SN. Nice try though.
>>3270121
Whatever she uses for taming the Pegasus was named retroactively)after her death).
As for Gil, outside of his appearance, his backstory is the digest of his epic.

>>3270132

He already said that. Don't be a dickhead.

>>3270105
>>There are just idiots who say 'X spins at his grave or whatever' when most of the backstory and events of the legends are pretty accurate.

This is a blatant lie when it comes to Gilgamesh.

>>3270128
There is not a single version of the legend, not all are great, and the game does not actually examine in great detail the legend and events itself, but rather how the character copes with the current events of the story.
Your whinging is unwarranted.

>>3270146
Read his backstory which is what he did before he was summoned.
Point the 'glaring' problems.

>>3270136

>That describes things mostly seen in F/HA, not F/SN. Nice try though.

Yes, but the point in general is that Nasu barely even paid the mythos all that much heed. His childish understanding of King Arthur is more on the levels of Disney's 'The Sword In The Stone' than the old English tales of the Pendragon.

>>3270149
I think he's refering to the whole "LOLSUMERIANSPACESHIP" and such.

>>3270128
So? The Arthur legend is already fiction, what's the big deal if Nasu takes something that's already fiction and changes it into a different fiction? No one version of the Legend of King Arthur is more accurate than another.

>>3270136
>>3270135

I was referring to him having all of the conceptual weapons of the world at his beck and call, and a magical key that lets him fling those weapons at people. Or him having the embodiment of the origin of the world, Enuma Elish, at his command.

>>3270128
It would have been pretty interesting to have accurate heroes in the Fate universe, but really, I don't think anyone would buy it. Plus you couldn't have any sex scenes (unless you liked HOMO) and the "cute blush" moments.

If only. ('A`)

>>3270152
Uh Arc? Point of order? Isn't it possible that he DOES know the actual legends and just edited it for the sake of his own narrative? You know, LIKE EVERY FUCKING ARTHURIAN BASED WORK OF FICTION OF ALL TIME?

>>3270163
All stuff that uses public domain characters really.

>>3270148

Does Nasu give you blowjobs to defend his work on the Inter-net? His shit is whack.

He ignores the finer points of the mythology surrounding the characters, and in doing so he removes their spirit.

When I read about King Arthur Pendragon, I want to read about the Arthur described to me in the old tales, not some blonde-haired little girl.

Perhaps you may be too much of a weeaboo to see a flaw in Nasu's work, but I reject his half-assed, sloppy handling of myth.

When did we suddenly start to take Arc seriously?

Hey, guys. If you haven't noticed, Arc is a troll.

Responding to him seriously is the last thing you should possibly ever consider doing.

>>3270152
He didn't pay it much heed cause he does not implement it or examine it itself. It serves as a backstory.
Most of the character understanding is done within the game's story, and it's obviously NOT the same character from the legend. He does not try to portray the mythos well or expand, only use the basis he wants for teh story.
Bad expectations are bad.
And the Arthur mythos is sword fanwankery of one of the more retarded codes and ideals in legends and history in my humble opinion, so it's for the better he did not try to portray the common mythos normally.

>>3270179

>Most of the character understanding is done within the game's story, and it's obviously NOT the same character from the legend

That right there is my point. These characters described to us in FSN...are not the legendary heroes and monsters that I know.

>>3270176
Arc is a guy? I honestly thought it was a femanon this whole time.

>>3270183
And what's your point? You prefer one portrayal of legendary characters to another?

>>3270191
>Arc is a guy?

>>3270196
Pardon me for not pausing to consider the identities of tripfags. I read Arc, considering it female, and then dwell on it no more.

>>3270192
>>3270183

>What's your point
>That right there is my point.

Reading, motherfucker. Do you know how to do it?

>>3270128
>There is no good reason why Arthur had to have been a woman
A wizard did it.

that's the best explanation.

>>3270202

That is a HORRIBLE explanation.

>>3270202
>wizard
Speaking of which, I'm really disapointed we didn't get a sprite or CG of Merlin in all of F/SN.

>>3270203
merlin is known for trailing off

>>3270199
So as I understand it, you're complaining about nothing relevant? Great.

>>3270203
No, really. Merlin actually did it.

>>3270213

Damn that Myrddin Wyllt.

>>3270158
He was the first great king of the known world, having everything and treasures being spread is not weird. Ea is mentioned in a sumerian legend. As for his key, he needed a fitting ability, so enter original power.
>>3270170
Nasu as a writer has a million problems, the shit you complain about manages to not touch any of the actual issues.
It's pretty damn clear he never wanted to incorporate each legend 100% accurately (whether he could do it or not), which is impossible since most have at least 2 versions. He has his own setting and cosmology, so he borrows known concepts for dramatic mostly effect and adapts them.
The events are the same, characters, reasoning and mechanics are not.
It's his own version of the legend, bad or not, which fits his own setting. He has no obligation to write them the way you see fit or accurate, and doing so does not make it instantly bad.
And in the end, the legends are not the focus, the resulting character who interact in the modern setting are.
Since he does not event really focus on them and are mostly 4-5 pages of digest, saying that this basic amount of info used to establish the character does not capture the whole writings of Old is redundant and retarded.

>>3270183
They were never meant to be.
Since the greater part of the legends (whichever version) are not done in detail and is not the focus, it's not even fucking possible in the first place.
That's why you are a retard.

>>3270226

Cool story, bro.

So, question - if we know Nasu is blatantly imprecise when treating mythos, why does everyone under the sun treat it as being one hundred percent factual? Riddle me that.

>>3270198
It's even worse that you would assume anyone on /jp/ was female to begin with.

Aside from me, of course.

>>3270237
There is not one true version of mythos, so I'm not sure what you're getting at besides blatant trolling.

>>3270241
Just to take a break from the "lol accuracies in fiction" topic, I'd like to say I've never once thought of you as being female.

>>3270077
SHIKI level? He was drugged his whole life he probably can't even tell what the hell went on throughout his whole life but his childhood. The dude in the pic is Igurumi Kazumi the real name of the "Sinker" going around in DDD This guy had the most fucked up life as everything kept crashing down and he would still try to keep going on but it never works Archer gave up and went insane this guy pretty much went insane got a mental disorder cause of it and was able to develop a new bodily function because of his insanity. In other words dude became a complete monster. But he would still keep trying to go on unlike everyone.

>>3270237
I doubt everyone under the Sun reads F/SN, much less doing what you say.
His backstories in character status are mostly digests of the legends and largely accurate (If you Read Arthur instead of Arturia, same thing), and parts of their personality, given abilities of the setting etc allude to them, which is a nice touch.

Nobody claimed authenticity, especially for an ever-changing with more then one version works of fiction.

>>3270241
I'm female, but I know you aren't.

>>3270249
An old friend of Kirisu who played baseball with him since childhood. His father left his family and he lived a poor life with his mom. He was bullied by everyone at school, and eventually pitched a baseball on his own became the only thing he ever found interesting to do. Kirisu found him one day and asked if he needed a batter. That’s when they started playing together. The two children played everyday and developed skills far better than anyone in their age. When they proceeded to different junior high schools, they promised they will remain undefeated until they meet again. And they both left a proudful score.

All right, it starts out with saying how his father ditched the family and he had a fucked up poor life with his mom. He was bullied by every one at the school he went too. Baseball was the ONLY thing he ever found interesting to do. One day Kirisu (The Slugger of SVS) found him and asked if he wanted a batter. Then they started to play together honing their skills far better than anyone else their age. They both went to different junior high schools. There they promised to remain undefeated until they meet again. And both left under a proudful score.

>>3270249
Archer did not give up/become insane.
During his life at least.
He accepted all the shit.
The eternal shit of the afterlife he was granted is what makes things worse.
But yeah, I'd like to read DDD.

>>3270254
Guess what? This is Nasu. Kirisu got involved with the wrong dudes and eventually a guy in the Yakuza thought Kirisu will be an interesting guy to have have under their organization. When this guy took him around to places where they make their money, Kirisu saw his friend’s mom working at a place she shouldn’t be with a tired look. He couldn’t stand that and killed this man with a bat. Because this man was hated by many, he didn’t get into trouble, but since then he would throw up whenever he would stand in the batter’s box.

>>3270257
Igurumi? Got beat up by his teammates who were envious of his skill. They broke his elbow ending his career forever. But different from Kirisu who just gave up baseball, Igurumi didn’t and kept on trying to throw the ball. Few month later, Igurumi was banned from school after picking a fight with the teammate in the middle of a class. And started living like a homeless man INSANE. In his last pitches of SVS, we find out why Igurumi Kazumi was so obsessed with playing baseball. Because he liked baseball? no. Because that was the only thing he was good at? no. Because of his friend Kirisu? no. Because his mother was so proud to see him succeed in baseball. But that ended when his teammates went to tell his mom that her son won’t be able to pitch anymore. Igurumi hid about his elbow in front of his mom and practiced hoping that it will somehow magically get better. The teammates thought that wasn’t funny, and went to his house to reveal that to his mom. His mom hanged herself after hearing it.

>>3270245
>>3270252
Sounds like a personal problem for the both of you.

>I'm female, but I know you aren't.
Oh, lord.

Might as well just start the whole Pygmalion process over again.

>>3270251
>>3270241

First off, don't take me so literally. 'Everyone under the sun' just means /jp/, and we're not even under the sun. We are in our abodes.

>His backstories in character status are mostly digests of the legends and largely accurate (If you Read Arthur instead of Arturia, same thing), and parts of their personality, given abilities of the setting etc allude to them, which is a nice touch.

The characters' backstories are distilled to their purest essence, leaving none of their original flavours. My major problem with Nasu in this case is that he only payed heed to the most general portions of the myth.

Oh, arthur pulled a sword out of a stone, wow, that's so accurate and legible and detailed. And he has a son named Mordred, wow, Nasu is a GENIUS.

By this logic, you could say that Disney's cartoon movie 'The Sword In The Stone' is an accurate and faithful retelling of the legend. I am not pleased by this.

If it pleases you, then the more power to you. You can actually read FSN without the sense of cognitive dissonance that I get.

>>3270286
>>By this logic, you could say that Disney's cartoon movie 'The Sword In The Stone' is an accurate and faithful retelling of the legend

But Nasu isn't making a faithful retelling of 'the' legend. He is making his own, just as everyone who makes King Arthur stories does.

>>3270286
I don't think anyone is saying that Nasu's version is an accurate retelling of Arturian mythology. If they are saying that, then they're morons.

You're arguing a point that nobody is making, nor should be making.

>>3270299
>>3270297

Also, one more thing.

Instead of Arthur being a woman, why couldn't Nasu have included amazing and awesome things like Caliburn being used by Arthur's warrior Llenlleawg the Irishman to kill the Irish king Diwrnach while stealing his magical cauldron of plenty[that also raises the dead]?

The Arthurian myths of the English and Irish are ten times more interesting than LOL HERE IS A MOE LITTLE BLONDE KING ENJOY, but that's my personal taste.

>>3270286
It's not that he fails to portray the legends, it's that he doesn't want to.
He obviously want you to judge the characters by what happens in the story, not my whichever myth told by any random team of people has.
The summaries help you to realize that these heroes are very distant than normal people and their presence here is not natural.

From basic events, he builds his original setting and character interpretation. You are not supposed to build up an impression from the legends.
The fact that you want to is irrelevant and stupid in this case.

You don't need to onlly understand the author's words to enjoy his work, you need to build the proper disposition/expectations the setting provides.
If after the first few hours, you actually expected accurate portrayal and retelling of the characters and judged the content, then you cannot distinguish a fantasy novel from a mythos analysis in terms of literacy and cultural legacy.

>>3270264
You got a problem with us grrrrl posters, Ren?
I never took you for a phallocrat. ^_~

>>3270325

>You don't need to onlly understand the author's words to enjoy his work, you need to build the proper disposition/expectations the setting provides.

Which is precisely what I have said. Instead of expecting accuracy, I have instead paid attention to the story, and discounted the characters' mythological leanings as being merely references, and they themselves as being separate from the characters WE know.

So it all works out.

>>3270305
>>3270325
Also, if the only thing you gathered is 'MOE LITTLE GIRL', I start to doubt if you actually fucking bothered to read at all.
And why should he even reference an unrelated event that does not change anything in what the story focus?

>>3270340
If you did actually do that, then all your bitching and comments are pointless.
Since the story itself was never supposed do what you whined about, why the fuck do you whine?

Munching out pseudo-intellectual tidbits as clap-traps does not a good troll make.

>>3270341
>>3270351
>>3270351

>Since the story itself was never supposed do what you whined about, why the fuck do you whine?

That's what we do around here, isn't it?

We whine about tripfags.

We whine about Japanese Bird.

We whine about why /jp/ is so shitty.

We whine about fanfiction.

We whine about normalfags.

Whining is to be expected. Don't get quite so butthurt when someone chooses to whine about your favorite VN. Stem those tears, Anon.

>>3270372
Why are Normal Japanese Tripfags cooking spaghetti writing fan fiction on /jp/ so shitty?

>>3270372
It's nowhere near my favorite.
But instead of addressing actual problems, you complain about stupid things.
It's like someone arguing why doesn't Star Trek follow out technology and grasp of physics to the T.
Regardless of quality of teh show invloved, that's a retarded comment.

If your excuse is 'LOL, we whine about everything', then I guess I should just add you to the filter since you demolish the chance of any interesting or even funny conversation.

>>3270389
I'm having spaghetti for dinner. I hate spaghetti.

>>3270394

Look on the bright side.

We have had a stimulating, interesting discussion with relative civility on both sides. That's why -I- come to /jp/. Plus, isn't that far better than whining about why /jp/ is so shitty for the thousandth time?

I'd personally say this is the best thread on /jp/ right now. If you were all as accommodating as this all the time, I'd never have a bad thing to say about /jp/

>>3270394

>teh....retarded

laffo

>>3270331
That was depressing to read, Jones. Don't ever do that again.

>>3270433
Do it Jones, you know you want to.

>>3269407
Archer? The most tragic? lol
Fucking GILGAMESH had it tough. Lancelot had it tough. Both Lancers had the luck of a dead leprechaun.

fuck you arc, I'm going to go write a fanfic about touching cirno without freezing just to make you rage more.

>>3270525
How is Gil tragic?

Archer pics anyone?

One of the sexiest pictures of Archer ever.

Go back to your fanfics, Elf.

>>3270789
Who is Elf and their fanfics?

>>3270798
A terrible Beast's Lair poster. Don't worry about it.

>>3270810 terrible Beast's Lair
No need to repeat yourself.

Posting Ilya in a fujoshi thread.

How did Ilya get involved in this thread?

Thanks /jp/, I used to try and deny that I liked Ilya before, but images like these helped to bring it back out more.

>>3270985
Archer time is over.

Ilya time, on the other hand, is all the time.