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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hGxWDsaEb3Zrf7aLr1iUqt6PPUmQ
>The Democratic Party of Japan, seeking to end half a century of almost unbroken rule by the Liberal Democratic Party, could win more than 300 seats in the 480-seat lower house in Sunday's election, the Yomiuri Shimbun said.

So, is this good news or bad news for us 4channers? I'm not familiar with Japan's political landscape.

>> No.3246533

It's over, EROGE are finished.

>> No.3246541

From what I got on a thread last night, the DPJ are more liberal than the current majority. think of them as the democrats winning over the republican party. That is if you live in/know of the party lines in America.

>> No.3246543

Looking at the Wikipedia article about them, they don't seem any worse than the other guys.

>> No.3246545

you're not familiar with /jp/ landscape either

>> No.3246694

So it seems they will turn Japan into a second UK, namely, they will let immigrants flow in, the crime will go up, Affirmative Action will be introduced to help the immigrants at the cost of native Japanese, Japan will change from one of the most industrious nations into a society made up of welfare kings/queens... We live in strange times.

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>> No.3246733

>>3246541
So it's basically the same shit and both the parties are equally retarded?

>> No.3246744

>>3246694
It's called progress.

>> No.3246762

>>3246744
If this is progress then get me a fucking time machine. I'm going back to the Renaissance.

>> No.3246766

民主党は売国奴!

>> No.3246771

>>3246541
Umm, no, LPD is more liberal. It even has "liberal" in its name, you know.

Unless you're using some funny American lingo where "liberal" is apparently some kind of slur meaning "those fuckers who want to increase taxes". But even then I don't think that's even remotely correct.

>> No.3246780

>>3246771
the LDP is ceter right while the DPJ is more left. so when comparing the two, DPJ is more liberal.

>> No.3246783

>>3246771
It's impossible for anyone to be more liberal than a party with liberal in their name!

>> No.3246793

The only party in Japan that's serious about any sort of halfway decent reforms is the CPJ. Much like Democrats/Republicans or Conservatives/New Labour, DPJ and LDP are the same thing with a different face.

>> No.3246794

>>3246771
Live in Australia where the 'Liberal Party' are conservative folks more in line with the Republicans.

>> No.3246795

>>3246783
They may have got the name "liberal" back when the opposition was more conservative, making them liberal. To today's standered, they are conservative.

>> No.3246797

>>3246771
>Umm, no, LPD is more liberal. It even has "liberal" in its name, you know.
You sound like you know a lot about politics. I would like to hear more about your theories.

>> No.3246798

Just wait until mexicans, indians, and pakis start showing up by the boatload. The DPJ will get thrown out.

>> No.3246807

>>3246794

Australia really is all upside down.

>> No.3246814

Parties with Liberal in their name here are economic liberals, not social liberals.

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>> No.3246832

>>3246798

Anticipating massive weeaboo influx. Japan littered with thousands of foreigners whose only grasp of the language are the words "sugoi" and "kawaii", who amble around barking at the locals in English about how great they think Naruto is as how Konato is their waifu. And all of them are there legally.

>> No.3246841

>>3246832
who's konato?

>> No.3246843

>>3246841

A Corn-Tomato hybrid.

Thus, Konato.

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>>3246832
bizarro Konata

>> No.3246880

>>3246795
>To today's standered, they are conservative.
>standered

You can be a liberal and a conservative at the same time, you know. Like LDP.

But I guess Americans wouldn't understand that words like "liberal" and "conservative" actually mean something.

And just to clarify, DPJ is conservative and NOT liberal.

>>3246797
Read more. Simple as that.

>> No.3246883

>>3246832

I also know omanko. Can I be Japanese nao?

>> No.3246884

No, the new party would just run more marriage meeting cruises where you have graduate school / professional school graduate meet single Japanese women and BAM! Instant highly educated work force.

>> No.3246951

Hey, but really, will they let foreigners in so that I could meet, seduce and marry Riko Tachibana?

>> No.3246971

hahaha owow who cares? All major political parties in the entirety of the western world, an by the west occupied nation like Japan included, are steering the same agendas and plans forward, no matter the political spectrum or it's supporters beliefs . It's a globalist run pre-world government system controlled by the global corporate fascist cabal.
So if the stupid goyim become tired with the ruling party, some will start voting for the most trendy party as portraid by the corporate media of the "opposition" and feel good inside again because of the of illusion having shown them damn politicíans but not knowing that the next elected party will continue the same agendas just as planned. This system is known as the continuity of government or just plain the shadow government.

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>>3246971
FUCK YEAH LETS GET SOME CONSPIRACY THEORY UP IN THIS BITCH

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>>3246971
NWO HURR DURR

>> No.3247003

>>3246971
Oh, fantastic. One of you chucklefucks again.

>> No.3247005

>>3246971
The Jews are behind it.

>> No.3247015

>>3246996
>>3246984

Ask yourself why the Japs haven't had any stable government in many years?
Since they were hit by their corporate masters with the asian crisis and had to stop their attempted take over (to gain more degrees of independence) through the financial system.

>> No.3247027

>>3246971

Riddle me this, conspiracyfag: If the people behind your New World Order are really as omnipotent as you think they are, why haven't they pushed a bullet into your stupid little head yet?

>> No.3247028

>>3247005
Jews are asian now

>> No.3247034

>>3247015

Def to all Juice!

>> No.3247039

>>3247027

Because I have dirt on them locked away securely.

>> No.3247041

What did the LDP do to fuck up?

>> No.3247044

>>3247028

I heard a better theory: Jews are responsible for the inflow of muslims into France. The theory does not explain why Jews want to create a nuclear muslim superpower capable of destroying Israel this way.

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>>3247039
I'd like to see some of this so-called "dirt" that you possess.

>> No.3247115

DPJ is Red Puppet

>> No.3247142

>>3247115

Exactly, it's a communist party. Just like Democrats in the USA.

>> No.3247162

>>3247044
1. Israel has already fulfilled its purpose. It's not needed anymore.
2. It gives them the opportunity to use their own nuclear weapons.

>> No.3247195

And the japanese political sphere has many similarities with the anglosaxons. The big families that have the major share in the plutocracies of the UK and the USA are profiteers from the British Empire. I'm not even talking about the top-level banker dynasties that ruled Europe and Britain for so long but the mid-level minions which worked for the Empire, interconnected through the roundtable groups (today known as the national security state system) and were involved in piracy and and drug-trade with the East-India Company.

In Japan it's primarly the decedents of the faudal system, wealthy and good connected families from daimyo and samurai clans, that rule the government in Japan behind the scenes.
Obviously said families run the underworld as money longering business not only in Japan but in the USA as well, were the CIA and military intellgince are running the drug traffic rings.

>>3247027
You and the jew spammer shouldn't jump to any conclusions. I never said they are omnipotent but it shouldn't take long anymore. Just look around you, the whole youth lives in their imaginary worlds, political apathy everywhere you look. So once the major counterparts become old or die off they will have a very easy job on finalizing their world governance, as they call it now.
My estimation says it will take up to 50 years which corresponds with the intelligence from NATO papers and other military papers from UK and the US. In fact they are predicting 30-50 years of riots and public unrest against the agendas that are to come (more taxes with the carbon scam, cut in services, mass borderline poverty and high unemployment rates, higher living costs, more surveillance, Unification programs of Canada, Mexico and the USA, proxy wars in the middle-east, south-east-asia and central-east africa to gain control over the most precious resources to strangle SCO, BRIC and and the south american coorperations.

>> No.3247245

>>3247195
All I see here is
1. Batshit wild guesses
2. Implications that much of the population ever gave two shits about the politics of the day instead of getting on with life
3. Vague mentions of unnamed and uncited documents which "prove" timelines

>> No.3247254

>>3247195

And what does your doctor say about it?

>> No.3247258

>>3247245
This. Oh, this.

>> No.3247282
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>> No.3247305

>>3247245
Maybe for you wild guesses because I bet you were never interested in the area altough it's in their own government documents, think-thank papers and intelligence reports.
From a social political view we are drifting towards a radical fascist anti-fascist liberal-esque technocrazy, you could say a centralizied scientific dictatorship were everything will be rationalized (above human rights and civil liberties). The same tactics authoritary socialist regimes used against their own people which they claimed to represent.
The endgame is clearly set into something like in Brave New World, I'm mentioning this just to clarifiy things. But until then they have to paradigm-shift the masses and tear down the old structures (which you see in the USA for example, Europe is already authoritarian from the feudal eras).
They have already achieved to gain the upper-hand in the intellectual circles and side-circles which the cloaking of environmental issues, global warming scam, peak-everything, overpopulation widening gap between rich and poor.
Now only the masses are left, the media is totally controlled by a very small numbers of corporations.

>> No.3247319

>http://short.to/ocbm

UK DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE DOCUMENT
"DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036"

>> No.3247358

>>3247305

Your assumption is wrong as you think that there is only one world. In fact, there are two, completely separate worlds that have always been there: the West and its offshoots (including Israel and all former colonies, i.e. the whole Africa, both Americas, South Asia, Russia, Australia and obviously Europe) and East (the PRC, Vietnam, Mongolia, Japan, South Korea,. Singapore, etc.). They Jews could be capable only of governing the West. They have very little influence in the East.

>> No.3247419

>>3247358
Did I say that except for Japan which under control Period. I won't play here what's the degree of control games, so don't even try.

That's why they are gearing up in the region to gain control over the resources and by the way all the nations you mentioned compared to the military-industrial-technological capabilities of the west are nothing else than little ants, but ants can still be annoying because you just can't nuke or bomb them without starting a world war (as China nor Russia would allow that) or at least major frictions in the social and economic system in the west.
That's why playing the old chessboard game with securing pipeline routes and resources fields while transforming the west into centralized controlled system has the biggest importance right now.
It's not a coincidence if you look at the world map at the region that is being proxy war'd right now: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran (failed coup d'état), Kashmir region and the mindgames the west is playing with it's satellites like Ukrain and Georgia. China doing the same thing with Norh Korea. Mindgames and chessboard moves.

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/jp/ - Fucking Stupid Conspiracy Theories

>> No.3247476

>>3247472

Zionist Jew detected!

>> No.3247481

>>3247476
Wow there, Sion is disliked, but not that much.

>> No.3247483

I thought Athens stopped coming here?

>> No.3247489

>>3247483
Since when was athens opposed to authoritism and more precise in the text-book take-over politics in the anglosaxon world?

>> No.3247492

>>3247483
You thought wrong, ZUNbar.

>> No.3247513

>>3247481
I like Sion.

>> No.3247671

>>3246771
>Umm, no, LPD is more liberal. It even has "liberal" in its name, you know.

Flawless logic. I'm starting a political party called 'Better Than All The Other Guys' and taking over the world.

>> No.3247684

This thread is further proof that when it comes to governments, the vast majority of people become complete slathering retards.

>> No.3247689

>>3247684
This goes for all subjects, though.

People are fucking stupid.

>> No.3248974

Remember, it was many DPJ officials that wanted to restrict eroge, rape, loli, etc. They sound like our equivalent of the Democrats when it comes to "protecting children" which is not good news for /jp/.

>> No.3249084

>>3247671
You sound like you have a plan that's better than the other guys', you have my support!

>> No.3249119

jimin is enemy for otaku.
they are about to pass law that H-game prohibits.

>> No.3249134

Did DPJ start the WW2 and like those right wing shit?

>> No.3249152

JCP is the only worthwhile party in Japan.

>> No.3249154

>>3249134
I don't think they existed back then, or even had a democracy.

>> No.3249166

Both parties in Australia are dirty conservatives. That's why everything's being banned and filtered. And it's why we don't even have the internet, too. I'm posting from my phone right now

There's a few actual liberal parties but they'll never get elected

>> No.3249172

>>3249166
as expected from a nation of convicts

>> No.3249208

>>3246951
Fuck off, Riko is mine.

>> No.3249226

JCP would nationalize the eroge industry.

>> No.3249241

JCP would establish a just distribution of lolis.

>> No.3249247
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There is no "immigration issue" in the UK. Pretty sure the majority of people who say so don't even live here. "oh no those dirty foreigners are taking our jobs at burger king and cleaning public toliets its over britain is finished"

The only real issue is total political silence on the issue, which is at risk of boiling over into an explosion of militant nationalism. If you think lazy racist ignorant skinheaded chucklefuck chavs (see: the majority of racists here) work harder than people who come all the way from Poland to do your plumbing for 50p an hour you are seriously retarded.

>> No.3249259

Weeaboo of all countries, unite! You have nothing to lose but your social ostracism.

>> No.3249277

> If you think lazy racist ignorant skinheaded chucklefuck chavs (see: the majority of racists here) work harder than people who come all the way from Poland to do your plumbing for 50p an hour you are seriously retarded.

If you think that White poles are the problem, you're either a nigger or a nigger-worshipper, both of which are in full control of Once-great Britain's accelerating downhill slide.

>> No.3249286

>>3249247
My only problem with Poles are they are hardwork to work with, they group together and often don't speak English well and if you ask for help they just look at you funny.

>> No.3249295

>>3249247
Plumbing, for 50p an hour, in Britain? Not even the poles are that cheap.
But in any case, I think the gassing of all chavs should take higher priority than immigration control.

>> No.3249303

>>3249247
>which is at risk of boiling over into an explosion of militant nationalism
Fuck yes, I've been waiting for that all my life.

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>Umm, no, LPD is more liberal. It even has "liberal" in its name, you know.

>> No.3249325

>>3247684
Which is why democracy doesn't work.

>> No.3249329

>>3249277
>which is at risk of boiling over into an explosion of militant nationalism.
FREE SCOTLAND FROM THE REST OF MONGRELS!

>> No.3249347

>>3249303
Did you see London during the early to mid-90s when the BNP won an important seat there? (which they lost pretty quickly after a big awareness campaign in London brought people to the attention of BNP policies such as denying the holoclaust) Shit was not so cash, attacks against non-whites and white moderates almost became commonplace.

>> No.3249353

>>3249347
I presume that was in the East end of London? Big deal. Attacks against non-whites and whites are run of the mill there now anyway, the damn chav rats.

>> No.3249356

>>3249277
The majority of black crime just involves blacks killing eachother. Not like thats a bad thing.

Theres also a different between a black person and a nigger.

>> No.3249359

>>3249353
Mostly around the Isle of dogs

>> No.3249373

>>3247671
It's not logic, you idiot, it's pointing out the obvious.

What you're doing, though, is a blatant logical fallacy. Present any evidence to the contrary or stay silent, trying to be funny doesn't help your case.

>> No.3249380

>>3249373
Liberal != more liberal.

>> No.3249396

>>3249380
Evidence. Do you know what that is?

>> No.3249429

Um, this isn't good? DPJ was the one that was for the restriction of eroge and eromanga. They also have a lot of members that are in favor of keeping foreigners out. The previous previous election they stated they want to fund robotics for medical and mass production use in long term instead of hiring from overseas for laborers and medical staff.

>> No.3249485

>>3247195
This will never fucking happen in the age of internet.

In like 10-20years time, those old faggots forming the current government will all either retired or sacked to their incompetency. It will be time people like us which is internet literate make "the people government" and grant true freedom instead of the current hypocrisy.

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>>3249429
>they want to fund robotics for medical and mass production

sounds good to me, bring on the persocoms!

>> No.3249500

>>3249373
>The Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) was formed on April 27, 1998. It was a merger of four previously independent parties that were opposed to the ruling Liberal Democratic Party. These were all new parties that were either liberal or social-democratic.

>The Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) is a centre right, conservative political party.


tl;dr
LDP is centre right and conservative (just like the republican party in USA)
DPJ is social-democratic and liberal (just like the democratic party in USA)

>> No.3249515

I'd just like to point out for you amerifags that 'Liberal' in the rest of the world is synonymous with 'Right Wing' (which is the opposite in the US)

>> No.3249519

>Unification programs of Canada, Mexico and the USA
>Global Warming scam
>I have dirt in my closet
8/10
Quite above average, but those three were a giveaway.

>> No.3249520

It's over Guys, Eroge and free speech is finished.

>> No.3249526

>>3249485
Sugoi monogatari aniki.

But yeah, maybe if you keep telling yourself that, a miracle will happen and you'll witness magic too.

>> No.3249531

>>3249500
It's opposite, "liberal" =/= US's "liberal".

>> No.3249537

>>3249520
It was fun while it lasted
*packs bags, turns into a normalfag*

>> No.3249555

>>3249537
I meant it sarcastic for all those people who scream Eroge is finished.
I can't imagine that they would just ban some milliard of dollar industries, which will too hurt the Anime/Manga Industry and so on. That's why the politics pressed those "laws" for Eroge so that they didn't have to pass some laws, it is probably more play on time now like always in politics. Hope to wait long enough for people to forget etc.

>> No.3249576

First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for eroge, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for eroge."

>> No.3249586

>>3249429
Jesus you are a retard. The DPJ is the one more likely to protect free speech. The LDP is aligned with the Komeito party, which is nothing more than a crazy Buddhist cult filled with feminists and radicals.

The DPJ is also more supportive of foreigners.

>> No.3249592

>>3249526
Miracles can't happen simply because they're miracles.

>> No.3249598

In this thread jaypee users have completely lost the meaning of sarcasm and irony.

>> No.3249603

>>3249576

Dude I remember that it's from that American anti nazi film

>> No.3249609

Increased taxes, fuck you democrats

People over nippon have a hard time already as it is

>> No.3249632

>>3249519
What the fuck are you talking about?
#1 You must have been asleep during the last decade dumbo
#2 hahaha owow, you cannot be that stupid, man-made global warming is a scam, malthusian tradition of the anglosaxon elite circles
#3 what?

>> No.3249729

>>3249531
DPJ is social liberal which is the "USA meaning" of the word liberal

Outside USA liberalism *usually* means economic liberalism but often also means combination of the two.

The word "liberal" in LDPJ's name comes from the economic liberal ideology they have. They have nothing to do with social liberalism. On the contrary they are a rather conservative party and conservatism is usually thought to be contrasted by social liberalism.

So for americans DPJ is the more liberal party of the two as it has social liberal ideology. And for non-americans LDPJ is the more liberal one as it stresses economic liberalism.

So what >>3249500 said is true that DPJ is like the democratic party and LDPJ is like the republican party

>> No.3249905

>stresses economic liberalism
hahaha owow I bet you meant legalized piracy and corruption

>> No.3249952

>>3249729
The problem is, DPJ is not social liberal the way, say, British Liberal Democrats are. DPJ is a conservative party with positions close to, for example, German CDU/CSU (religion aside). This is obviously to the left of US Republican Party positions, but still far from liberalism in any sense of the word.

LPD are conservative liberals who support economic and personal freedom, making them closer to, say, German FDP. They were turned into statist bureaucrats by decades of ruling, but in its core the party is obviously more liberal than DPJ.

>> No.3249981

So, will this landslide victory be beneficial to us or harmful?

>> No.3249986

>>3249981
dunno, who are you?

>> No.3250017

>>3249981
harmful, since the democrats will most likely make it harder on the living standards of the japanese

Which on our end may mean dissapointments/budgets/etc etc

>> No.3250023

If they win they might put out eroge/eromanga restrictions.
It will be hilarious.

>> No.3250112

>>3249555
But DPJ promised to raise tax by 15% to help the economy. (I suppose that mean they won't be elected)

>> No.3250209

>>3249952
>The problem is, DPJ is not social liberal the way, say, British Liberal Democrats are.
DPJ might put slightly more emphasis on social democracy and very slightly less on social liberalism than BLD but overall they are very close to British Liberal Democrats.

>DPJ is a conservative party with positions close to, for example, German CDU/CSU (religion aside).
This is just wrong. DPJ is very anti-conservative. Quoting wikipedia:
>The Democratic Party wants to "overthrow the ancient régime locked in old thinking and vested interests, solve the problems at hand, and create a new, flexible, affluent society which values people's individuality and vitality. The Democratic party proclaims to hold the values in the meaning of the constitution to "embody the fundamental principles of the Constitution: popular sovereignty, respect for fundamental human rights, and pacifism.
Sounds rather social liberal and very non-conservative to me.

>LPD are conservative liberals who support economic and personal freedom, making them closer to, say, German FDP.
LDPJ are conservative and they are liberal in the sense that they support economic freedom (=economic liberalism, which is what is usually meant by liberalism outside USA) but unlike DPJ they have never had any emphasis on personal freedom (=social liberalism) although of course any major party in any first world country advocates personal freedom to some degree. They are definitely not as social liberal as German FDP. Actually I have never seen any source quote LDPJ as either social liberal or classical liberal, only as economic liberal or conservative liberal. For DPJ on the other hand social liberalism is probably the single most important ideology.

>> No.3250270

the japanese always vote for the party which has less scandals, they don't care what the policies are

>> No.3250275

Leftist positions on society are the bane of all freedom. They're only interested in group rights, which ultimately results in individual rights being destroyed.

>> No.3250377

>japanese always vote for the party which has less scandals
HihihihheheheheHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW!

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DPJ leader = Free Mason

>> No.3252725

>>3249500
>LDP is centre right and conservative (just like the republican party in USA)
Republicans aren't center right.

>> No.3252725,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>3252725
Seriously now, you should stop that political spectrum bullshit and you may not believe what I have been writing in this thread, but cerntainly all of you will find out in the near future that I'm right.
In the US both parties are on the right site of the spectrum and geared more towards totalitarianism (corporate fascist state) than towards liberty as both parties are funded and controlled by the same circles.

The next steps and you have to understand this is to gain control over the internet (restrict free-speech with the bs of hatespeech and pedophilia) and the passing of the carbon tax which will shatter the economy except the cabal monopolists which will be kept alive by the tax payers ...
I haven't even mentioned the schemes being run like the indirect bailout for the insurance cartel through the healthcare bullshit.
Anyway all of us won't have much to laugh as our future has already been sold off and what is left is the live-through of the paradigm-shift that is to come.
Have fun being a wage-slave for the rest of your life ( and if you are plan going into college for some there-are-no-jobs degree, have fun with your unrepayable debt)

>> No.3252725,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>3252725,1
To paraphrase Bill Maher, The Democratic party is center-right, and the Republican party is batshit insane.

>> No.3252725,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>3252725,1
OMG SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAID WERE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

>> No.3252725,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>3252725,3
What the FACK are you nerd doing?

>> No.3252725,5 [INTERNAL] 

In 2014, ARM Holdings will be worth more than they are now.

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