/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sakura moyu or asairo?
I want to bawl my eyes out.

>>32342867
Asairo would probably get to the point way faster.

>>32342867
I'm reading Sakura Moyu and I'm almost done with the first route I think. It does have some emotional moments but the worldbuilding stands out to me more at the moment. Also it's slow and the writing gets very repetitive in some scenes

Is Kono Aozora ni Yakusoku o good?

>>32344099
Depends on the route, but generally yes.
Umi best girl with best extra story epilogue.

>>32344099
Yes

Font's fucked for me.

>>32345665
werks on my machine

>>32345665
Same, but at least it's not unreadable or anything.
The older version worked just fine on that regard.

>>32344099
no

>>32344099
Personal heroine preference (route same):
Umi > Rinna > Saeri > Naoko > Miyaho > Shizu

Shizu: I secretly I confess I intentionally skipped through her entire route, because
1. it's hard to look at her character cg as a heroine
2. I don't like her heroine traits
Though her route doesn't feel very central when I am skipping through it.

Wagahime looks pretty good. The non-blood-relatedness of the sister is a shame though.

>>32349113
That's my ranking too.
How about Akane? She was cute even if all she got was a side route because Maruto wanted to screw the girl of the promise cliche over.

>>32345665
I'm on a non-jp Windows with locale emulator and it works fine for me.

>>32350178
and finally, Akane's true route:
I guess this is designed as a bonus route, almost like a BAD END for the previous 6 heroines, but it really brings a smile to my face, because it is the only one route where Wataru decides to change the fate of the town permanently by talking his grandfather into running for the office of mayor, confronting the antagonist face-on in the most satisfying kind of way. What's more, it's strongly hinted in the end that the girl that Wataru made a promise to 10 years ago is actually (revealed to not be Rinna in Rinna's route)... Akane!! What a troll, giving this theoretically important position of "childhood promised heroine" to the most insignificant heroine out of all of them. But you know what? I like it.

>>32352115
> it's strongly hinted
I mean, you can't even call it that when the menu screen completes the charm which is about the nicest closure the game gets after how depressing the farewell is.

anyone got the big tiddy patch for 歪んだ恋愛模様? All the links on 2DGF's torrent page are down

Can anyone speak to the general trend and quality of visual novels in recent years? Is it growing/dying/none of the above?

>>32344099
it's a classic

>>32349214
Shame about the 1 month delay

>>32356579
Declining

>>32356579
Unchanged, unless you're a plotshitter or impotent then you have nothing to read

>>32359793
>impotent
Read nukitashi

>>32351867
Yeah, I'll try with Locale emu.

>>32359793
How much will you seethe when Sakura no Toki comes out and le "plotshitters" praise it to high heaven?

>>32361312
IF it comes out I will say good for you. Enjoy it while you can. Meanwhile I'll read and enjoy all the other games that released that are not life-changing philosophical experiences. And I'll continue reading dozens, hundreds more games while you wait another 5+ years for your next game still talking about your 1 (ONE) game.

>>32345665
>>32345881
>>32351867

Okay, Locale Emu works. Problem fixed.

>>32361515
I'm too busy playing Gamecube and Wii games I missed out on to discuss stuff online, desu.

>>32361312
Nah, people will be disappointed it doesn't meet whatever expectations they had and then claim that eroge is dead because the one game they waited for years isn't what they wanted, like the guy complaining about kns3 last thread.

>>32361312
Oh, and whether it is "praised to high heaven" or not I might read it as well because unlike you I'm not limiting myself to 1 type of game. Tata, plotshitter.

>>32361594
Good for you? Discussing is pointless anyway. GC and Wii had some really good games but imo too few great ones compared to other consoles at the times.

>>32361525
do people really start vns without locale emu lol

>>32361736
Yes. Not many actually need it. Most are fine with just non-Unicode set to Japanese.

>>32361736
i never use it.

>>32361736
usually the combination of japanese locale + japanese date and time format gets you passed everything

>>32361312
It's for dramafags tho. Sca-ji said it is going to have passionate drama revolving around ethics iirc.

>>32361696
Reading VNs is pointless too if you go by that retarded logic

>>32343002
>>32343753
Yy, anons

>>32363892
No? Reading is entertainment = not a time waster. Discussion has no point unless you enjoy "exchange" of ideas lol. It is a huge waste of time. Like nothing you say to me or I to you will change our mindsets, nothing comes off it. It's just meaningless blabber. Instead of writing this I could've read several lines of moonrunes and listened to some granny voicing a cute pettanko loli stimulating my brain and dick. But no I have to waste time ranting to some random anon who thinks discussion has merit.

Where to dl 月姫 without english?

>>32369610
The type moon general.

>>32369482
>I have to
Man, that must suck.

>>32370318
thanks a ton

>>32369610
Btw to get looping music you'll have to use _inmm.dll. That allows to set up any music you want actually, which is helpful cause there are three versions of the Tsukihime soundrack (orig, Tsukibako, Ever After). Personally I like the orig the best. Tsukibako is the worst in my opinion.

The owner of jitsumai blog, the ultimate site about imoutos, has fallen to the v*uber menace. Almost all the posts are about that cancer.

>>32378857
no one gives a fuck about your blogfags anymore, faggot

>>32379021
It's really crazy how obviously you stick out with your posts, dude.

Knowing you'll never amount to anything in life must be really harsh, eh?

>>32379021
It gave great insight into eroge with blood-related imoutos.

>>32379174
wooow you hit me so hard imma gonna kms asap loooooool faggot aha

>underage b& niggerspeak and unironic complaints about "gatekeeping" and "elitism"
This place really has gone down the shitter.

>>32380854
Someone decided they wanted to spend their spare time making the general unusable and they have mostly succeeded.

>>32380854
>nigger
nice racism, white boi

>>32380854
Truth be told, that's the entirety of /jp/ anyways. There are no janitors that care, so it was bound to happen eventually. Normally obvious trolls and shitposters would be banned, but not here. Like some of the crap that happened here and literally nothing was banned is just insane.

This kinda happens to any general of anything at some point. Unless you do your gatekeeping community where you delete the shitters, the shitters will come and stay. That's what happened.

>>32381234
A few smaller chans I'm in have word filters(the contents of which aren't entirely known to the userbase besides the obvious slang like lol and whatnot) that give out instabans, for example, and the moderation is quite strict. Avoiding a fate like this is well worth the cost

First it's all ages and now making it worse for no reason, they're being really retarded with this new 9-nine episode.

>>32385370
That's how you piss off your fans

>>32385512
>>32385370
Game is pretty much finished withing ep4, just forget about this crap.

>>32381234
>Truth be told, that's the entirety of /jp/ anyways. There are no janitors that care, so it was bound to happen eventually. Normally obvious trolls and shitposters would be banned, but not here. Like some of the crap that happened here and literally nothing was banned is just insane.
And yet it's still a lot better moderated than our retarded cousin over on /vg/ lol

>>32385853
If you mean the eroge general on /vg/, they are far more on topic and have less shitposting then we do.

>>32385853
At this point, I have to disagree. They have some ability to stay on topic for periods of time, and they aren't flooded with "people" who complain about being excluded despite the separation from EOPs being in the fucking title.

>>32385878
>>32386064
I disagree with you both. They have just as much (and far more) off-topic bullshit than this general. Also they're much faster burning through threads. When there's some retard spergout like >70% of all posts can be OT and spam. And on the rare occasion a mod bans people/mass deletes crap you can have hundreds of posts gone. All they have going is speed and number of posts. Sure, when they actually discuss a game for once or have decent blogposting it's nice but those days are mostly gone. They also have a ton of avatarfags, ritualposters, actual schizos, discord invasions etc. that ruin everything. And some trolls that hate certain games/devs/whatever will always repost the same bait and lies that newfags fall for, which derails threads. There's much more crap to /vn/.
The one thing this place is lacking is actual discussion. The number of posts is pretty low and there's almost never any blogposting, reviewing or exchange of thought. Instead you get repeats of "le hookfags fuck off" and "dead industry" and other crap. Why not someone post about what they're reading and how they like it with others chiming in what they (dis)liked about it or with scenarioge discuss theories and interpretations? Because nobody cares. It's just whining, begging and reacting to twitter news. On /vn/ it's all the same just about translated games or games they want to read but never will.
>they aren't flooded with "people" who complain about being excluded despite the separation from EOPs being in the fucking title.
What separation in the title? It only states this general is about untranslated games. That doesn't exclude EOPs. Current OP is a translated game btw so.. If you want to exclude EOPs then change the subject title or description to be more clear. Like "only games that are not translated, only read in original Japanese and in no way read with machine translations, only read by le JOPatrician who doesn't use hookers or dictionaries etc." Right now it looks like "anything that's in JP and however you read it."

You could also argue that /vn/ complain about JOPs posting in their general despite having their own. Happens often when someone posts untranslated screenshots. No different from EOPs and MTLers posting here. Also while I don't have proof I'm absolutely sure that at least 1 guy (you know who) that derails this thread with his insane bitching does the same over there.

>>32385878
>>32386064
>>32387814

A little hate hour is good every now and then, but let's not go overboard. Sometimes posting nothing at all is the best option.

i havent dl kns3 yet but how's the ost?

>>32387814
i think both of them were talking about /hgg/ though, not /vn/. at the very least i know the latter is a straight up autism fest with those retards defacing their own OP for like 2+years, maybe even continuing now, to try to keep untranslated discussion out. and this was after mods came in and said untranslated discussion should go to /jp/

Where do i have to go for translated ero VNs?

>>32389895
/h/ has a thread for translated VNs

>>32388028
Pretty good, best eds in the whole series too.

Her hair is dumb but it's growing on me somehow.

>>32380854
All the JOPs who care about gatekeeping and elitism fucked off to discord, pal.

>>32392502
the fuck, age made this?

I've been playing Hamidashi Creative and it is quite entertaining. It feels like it should be a generic moege judging by the art but the writing really makes it fun to read. I'm even able to get over the protagonist being so obsessed with vtubers and gacha, which is surprising since shit like that is an immediate turn off for me.

>>32395934
Apparently it's written by the Tsuriotsu writer

>>32395981
Interesting to hear. I've never played Tsuriotsu but i may have to check it out after this

>>32395981
where did you get that from

>>32395142
Yup. Can't tell from the text?

>>32395934
I heard it's a really good moege from people with good taste. I didn't pick it up because the art looks like garbage.

>>32396104
I think there were some rumors, also the names
>東ノ助
>甲木 順之助

Always watch out for neighbors that have a silhouette for a sprite.

how to install vn if you have the .bin and .cue?

>>32400979
.bin is a disc image
you mount it with a program like virtual clone drive

Weird, I like it when they're in pain. I don't enjoy defloration scenes where the girl feels it right away and, God forbid, even cums at the end.
LxC2 was very good in that regard, IIRC.

Finished all the after stories in Nukitashi 2. They were pretty fun, but my big complaint with all of them is that they felt like the authors really didn't have any ideas for an after story so they just took a random thought they had and fit a short story around it, i.e. fatty's after story is "the characters make a VN so we can make meta jokes about our own vn", and Fumino's after story is "Fumino adopts a cat, and it's cute, then she goes on a date, and it's cute, and that's about it". Nanase's route is the worst about it, because her route leaves huge plot elements unresolved and her after story ignores them until the last five seconds with the Fumino rescue mission, which retroactively makes the comedy antics much harder to enjoy when you remember that Fumino was literally being torured offscreen the whole time.
Just the imouto and Susuko routes left - are they full routes the length of the Big 3's routes, or shorter ones the length of the after stories for the previous heroines? I'm very curious to see what the fuck a Susuko route could possibly even be. Also kinda woulda preferred a Rin+Ran shimaidon route instead of Susuko, but whatever.

>>32403416
I haven't finished the game, but other anons have said that Inami's route is full length.

>>32405446
I genuinely don't understand how that's possible, but I guess I'll have to see. That said, giving a never-ever routelet a full route in DLC is a really admirable practice and kudos to them for it.

>>32396064
Yeah, tsuriotsu is really nice, i love writing.

>>32395934
It IS a generic moege, but it's a very well done one with some exceptional girls. There's some silly drama in the routes, but aside from that it's one of the best moege of 2020.

what's with the tsukihime link on the dead type moon thread only for music and not the game?

>>32410637
PEBKAC

Any recommendations for a battle harem with magitech weapons/mecha suits?
I'm looking for something like the ones in pic related but in VN format.

>>32414154
Sorceress alive.
Mekuiro.

>>32414154
damn two of these i havent seen yet
but to answer your question, koiken otome and kizuna kirameku koi iroha

>>32414154
That shitty game by that one guy who's going to write that La'cryma game announced ages ago.

I keep seeing VN protag throw around the term feminist a lot these days but I don't think they understand what it actually means.

>>32418786
Rance is a self-proclaimed feminist.

>>32418786
Haha I like cute girls so I'm a feminist haha

>>32414154
Zero Infinity

>>32418786
It means something different in Japanese. Except when it doesn't, like in Nukitashi 2.

>>32418355
>La'cryma
Oh god, is it not fucking dead? I mean given the writer, I guess it may as well be anyway. They should just let the main writer of Fortissimo do that shit (he's still the only one who managed to write chuuni that I actually kinda liked, with clear rules that are followed and stakes for battles with actual meaning, and not the "always status quo" shit that 3rd eye does for example), but I guess he doesn't want to. Kieta Sekai's biggest weakness was how they literally outsourced the writing of the story to some random dude. The main ideas and main plot was actually nice (because this writer had nothing to do with it), but going from one plot point to the next, aka the writing, was hella awful.

That game could've been absolutely great, but ended up being utter shit. Not sure if I'd ever wanna touch Kanotsuku, even if it ever comes out. A game needs a capable writer, the rest can be as fucking good as it can be, if the writing sucks, everything sucks.

>>32420849
>with clear rules that are followed
>infinite bullshit powerups

>>32420877
That's chuuni battles my friend. If you can't even stand that, play other shit.

The point is that the actual story has clear rules, that are followed. I take chuuni shit in battles, but asspulls left and right in the story is dumb. You can read Steins Gate for that or whatever. (no chuuni battles, just a chuuni story)

Speaking of Tsuriotsu writer, has anyone read Sekai Seifuku Kanojo? Is it any good?

>>32421702
No, Yumeko is super irritating.

>>32420849
I was talking about Seiken Tsukai no Proposition, which had a different writer than Kieta Sekai.

>>32422231
I know, still just as shitty though as far as I know. That's why it's a very similar situation.

>>32422316
True.

I only read the trial of Kieta Sekai and I remember being baffled by some story progression beats.

Why some japs are so dumb?

Since yal''ll speak Japanese could you maybe help me out with a short request? I'm encoding a DVD of "Under the Blossoming Cherry Trees" from 1975 and wish to include the chapters with titles but OCRing software can't recognize the text.

>>32423852
Ask on /r/translator. Subreddit right for that. Don't post here.

>>32423852
>y'all

>>32423905
Thank you, I didn't know about reddit

>>32423905
Not sure what's worse. People putting requests here or people pointing to reddit.

>>32424220
worst is that no one is able to read just 24 lines of japanese here
sad state /jp/ 2021

>>32424220
anything that vents people to other sites is a plus for the community

>>32424255
Again, you're really damn obvious, schizo.

>>32423905
>>32424139
>>32424220
wow you guys just exposed yourself as fucking mtlers, since you can't even help him
loool

>>32426162
Jesus, at this point you should be liable to be banned under the rule against instigating flamewars.

>>32426707
no, you should be banned from life for mtling

>>32423338
The bell curve is a thing after all.

>>32423338
nice, i wish i dropped asairo too

>>32432897
Why?

>>32418786
I like Japan's definition more.

>>32395033
>discord
But those are the fags I want to gatekeep out of this thread.

>FD about a single heroine
>her voice acting is apparently so bad that the devs make a free patch that replaces the seiyuu with another high profile one
Would you read it with the original voice that was also in the main game or use the patch for a seiyuu you know you like but kind of makes the heroine into a different character?

>>32442527
Is the VA really that bad?

>>32442527
the former obviously

>>32442527
The bad seiyuu tried too. This is bullying.

>>32442527
Read it twice, once for each voice.

>>32418786
Going by MCs that called themselves feminist I'd say the Japanese definition seems to be "gigolo manwhore who saves girls to get laid and then moves on to the next girl, also incapable of loving." Western definition of male feminists is "incel/cuck simping for any woman to get laid/cucked but never winning because loser, also often turns out to be a pedo or faggot."

>>32421702
I liked it quite a lot. Its one of my favorites.

Can i have a link for it? I searched on warosu but found nothing...

>>32446085
Did you follow that reply chain? It linked to it. Anyway that description is incorrect. The patch merely ports all the voices from the all-ages version to the original version while keeping the original Japanese text (because the patch of this was English-only). I believe the all-ages release has a handful of extra scenes/CGs which were not replicated or anything. It's not that sophisticated. Anyways for reference:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6hr2htamnxhv73x/demonbane_voice_japanese_text.zip/file

>>32446250
Oh yeah, i did download the patch and found about it being a voice patch for the +18 version.
I think i'll read Kishin Houkou then, since i've already read Zanmataisei years go.

>>32446519
I should actually read Kishin Houkou one of these days. I have it downloaded but the window is completely black (the sound and everything else works though) for some reason for me. Haven't bothered to figure out why.

>>32446622
it could be a directx error, i'll test the game on my old laptop and see if that's the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkTS_AaMiI
The song of my eroge life.

what's this?

>>32450178
failed to open that "graph_bs" file

>>32450284
yeah but what do i do?
the game folder has the file

>>32450463
reinstall i guess.

>>32450178
Use procmon. Some sort of permissions or locale problem, or hardware/driver failure.

>>32450742
>>32450632
i changed my date and time to japan time, apparently it happens some visual novels

>>32442947
>>32418786
The waseigo meaning is closer to what we'd call a 'gentleman' or 'chivalrous' man who opens the door and offers the seat to women.

>>32420610
Japanese is fun.

>>32446250
Does this patch have the same problem as the English one where voices cut off or don't play?

>>32446988
The download took longer than expected, it works fine on my toaster. The intro is a bit laggy, but i think is a codec problem.

>>32452793
No I fixed that all manually when I played through it. The English patch did not enter in voice files for certain lines for whatever odd reason. I swear I played a fully functional and working English version way back in my EOP days but maybe my memory is wrong.

>>32452846
Is it Windows 7? I only ever tried it on that VM.

>>32452941
>Is it Windows 7? I only ever tried it on that VM.
No, my laptop OS is Windows 10

>>32450632
>>32450742
Jesus, newfags. This happens with every Favorite game if you don't to this >>32450911

>>32453023
Probably some directx bullshit. Thanks.

>>32452941
the EOP voice patch was fucked as well, but looks like a /vn/ anon is using your patch to fix it kek
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/321161254/#q321163408

>>32453207
never had this issue myself, I had my windows set to avoid shit like this years ago

>>32453234
Poor anon. I didn't actually originally intend to remove all the english lines in there (just comment them out), but N2system or whatever acted really strangely with extra newlines. There was a lot of bugged text, formating, and shit so I ended up just deleting it in the process.

>>32453362
Did you make two versions of the patch?

The download you linked is
nss.npa CRC32: CA031B28
voice.npa CRC32: D77E84AF

But I also have
nss.npa CRC32: 227D97E2
voice.npa CRC32: 050DFDA0

And the timestamps are the same.

>>32453362
The wonders of japanese code.
But since you did the hard work, anon will only have to manually copy-paste, a tedious but easy task.

>>32441812
no one cares about your selfish wishes you're fucking idiot

>>32453503
Maybe you downloaded an old version while I was still in the middle of doing it? Hate to be a pleb here, but uh apparently my distro doesn't package anything that does crc32 checksums (doesn't seem common). Mind doing md5 or sha256 instead?

>>32453685
The only people who don't agree with me are discord trannies, and they should make like Conjuror and off themselves already.

>>32452941
I just checked my old EOP version and it's fucked with a few voices here and there not playing. It doesn't seem to have that bug where only half a line is played though.

>>32453234
That's random. I say he either gives up or won't share it.

>>32453722
Based. Fuck discordtrannies. Keep up the gatekeeping.

>>32453704
Ones linked above in this thread:
nss.npa
MD5
7C0AEB67FD725B8AD6171FAE89F9F82C
SHA-256
AC35AE1B51B274DE463C502B24169E10414036C708FAC931A83A39E9705F2FA2
voice.npa
MD5
688C1ABB78C1550522FA12E33D9AC8F6
SHA-256
0E0C9AAB661940B1F290F1FF0D4BD15C42220751E5BBC5990D2924FE64EB63BF

Ones I had from before:
nss.npa
MD5
BCCF6B5BD05051DF19526EF92E0EDF6E
SHA-256
E91C4BE05E6A061A39FBD82B5D50454FC64519B25052A4FAE3A1100BB8CD0B82
voice.npa
MD5
4F906980F47D27DBB81A4495DBCE06F2
SHA-256
C06F63D418542289ABDD1689FA08E16BC8649098E90E7D8E6704B46A8FBA3D34

>>32453722
>>32453916
nice seething, guys

>>32453704
>uh apparently my distro doesn't package anything that does crc32
FYI rhash or cksfv can calculate crc32. As does libarchive-zip-perl (Archive::Zip), which may put the crc32 command in a vendor_perl folder which may not be in your PATH.

>>32453954
Looks like I fucked up. What's linked in the thread is incorrect. I'm going to go kill that link actually. What you downloaded before is the correct file. Thanks for noticing. The correct link for reference:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0x9f8gyrvb9pl5h/demonbane_voice_japanese.zip/file

>>32453882
That's mean. I'm already past The Gate, so i'll probably release the patch next week after proofreading...

>>32454387
EOPs are less than human.

>>32454423
you are less than a human, fucking elitist
ever tried not to be this insecure?

>>32454637
Stop ban evading.

>>32454662
no need for ban evading since no one gives me ban in the first place, stupid

>>32454354
Almost had an heart attack, thank god i'm using the right patch to fix the EOP patch lmao

Speaking of demonbane, I actually like the sequel game way more (even despite the shitty game play). Not sure how common this opinion is, but it helps that it's way less repetitive and the scenario is more unique. Also turning セラエノ断章 into a loli was genius.

>>32454695
Wouldn't surprise me. Mods do fuck all on /jp/ in general.

>>32454387
Well good luck then. English Demonbane's been fucked for too many years, fuck JAST. I just checked that linked thread and noticed the date. I thought earlier that you just started this after that other anon posted his patch.

>>32454962
I'm the anon from pic related >>32446085 reply chain, i found about the JP voice patch and start working on a EOP fix on the same day. So i've been working on it for like ten days.
JAST is a disgrace, i wish a competent publisher would assume Nitro+ titles.

>>32455654
>JAST is a disgrace, i wish a competent publisher would assume Nitro+ titles.
Like NekoNyan, most ethical company.

>>32455654
Are you only fixing the voices or also adding the console stuff? If the latter then afaik the console version has modified/censored CGs and sprites. And yeah JAST sucks. Never understood why some people suck them off when they take decades to release games, have tons of typos and gamebreaking bugs, cut "controversial" content, cut voices, barebones releases, their translators that are not Makoto all suck, moogylol, tons of trash licenses and now even that retard hapa works/shills for them. Maybe that still counts as a "better" EOP company lol.

>>32456055
>retard hapa

You mean Hata? Loooool

>>32456076
Yup. He started doing QC for them "for free" and even before he was involved in some discord spec-op to shill some Venus Blood game but he denies being involved. One time he posted a screenshot of his messy desktop which showed his secret JAST work files mixed together with his pirated games lol. The guy can't keep his mouth shut and leaks info all the time and brags how today's JAST is now FAST since his buddies took it over from the Peter guy. I cringe every time I see the retard shilling crappy JAST games anywhere and telling people to buy shit like butchered Majikoi that has "a much better TL than Takajun's bad TL" when screenshots have proven they're almost the identical and often worse.

>>32456277
lul

Drama like that can be fun to followw.

>>32456295
Exactly haha.

>>32456055
For now only the voice pack, but i plan to port the old translation to the all-ages PC port one day, that if pic related doesn't happen, but is JAST we're talking about, so i shouldn't expect nothing.
I think making a patch to add +18 content to the all-ages remake should be more easier than the opposite.

>>32456277
>almost the identica
No.
> often worse
Yes.
I compared them and jast tl is much worse.

>>32456472
I wouldn't count on JAST doing that. Porting the script shouldn't be too hard unless the engines are fucked. Adding 18+ content on the other hand would be troublesome unless you really know what you're doing. Even then a ton of work likely.

>>32456619
The screenshots I've seen sometimes only had a few words rewritten or slightly changed grammar. The editing is more liberal though, typical "we write it how akshual AMERICAN teens speak." With all the voices cut out I don't see any reason for anyone to play the new one. And their unacceptable behavior should not be financially supported, fanpatch or not. Doesn't it also cost like 60 bucks for that butchered crap? lol
Oh, one thing is better, official demosaic instead of fanmade redraw. Maybe that can be patched into the fanTL. Mosaics are still the best.

>>32454387
Be sure to match up the voiced lines with the right text (although I guess if you don't know Japanese you can't do this). In this screenshot, you have two voice lines one after another. I forgot what exactly happens but you'll probably get a weird, wrong result.

>>32451509
That's not waseigo. That's just wrong usage. I see people using it correctly on twitter all the time. It's just chancucks and eroge fucks who misuse it.

>>32456861
I copy-paste that quickly to show anon that "i'm working"
I corrected that later kek, i'm using deepl for the lines that aren't like the JP script format.

>>32457141
> That's just wrong usage. I see people using it correctly on twitter all the time.
Both usages are correct. Read a fucking dictionary, the "incorrect" usage is in 広辞苑

>>32456818
>With all the voices cut out I don't see any reason for anyone to play the new on
Voice can be restored easily with just few files swap, but i see no reason to bother with jast crap version to begin with.

>>32456818
>I wouldn't count...
There is a guy that was translating Demonbane to his mother language, portuguese i think, and he started to rip off the ps2 assets to make an patch with the all-ages content. If he succeeds, i think i'll try do the same, since the ps2 script should be pretty much identical to the +18 version.
I'll give a look on the remake scripts as well. maybe is the same case.

>>32457264
Dictionaries record every type of dumb usages, idiot. If it was your average word no one would bat an eye. But this is a term for a planetary level real social movement.

It's a sarcastic joke usage, you dumb fucks. When ツイフェミs accuse otaku of being anti-feminist on twitter, they jokingly say "haha I love girls how I can be against feminism".

>>32458005
you mean that nukitashi 2 may not have been a 100% sincere portrayal of what feminism is actually like in Japan?

>>32457833
I'm just saying I don't think the 1998 edition of koujien has the definition because of "chancucks and eroge fucks."
It's obviously an old usage of the word and not modern internet slang.
Not every japanese dictionary records every dumb usage. 広辞苑 is a very elitist definitive dictionary and doesn't casually adopt niconico slang or anything like that.
The 「女に甘い男」definition is used very commonly. Maybe more commonly than the academic usage, since they may say japanese phrases like 女権拡張論者 instead.

>>32458030
Didn't play nukitashi 2. Feminism in Japan is overwhelmingly spearheaded by anti-otaku terfs(your average ガルちゃん user).

>>32458226
I'd imagine they likely strongly dislike nukitashi 2.

>>32458182
>The absolute state of dictionary retard
You're completely out of touch with the current reality.

>>32458182
>「女に甘い男」
This sounds like an insult used by right wingers lmao
"males who support feminism are dumb limp-wristed pussy-whipped faggots"

>>32458636
Japanese left back in the day was also pretty conservative and hated feminism so that usage making it into the dictionary makes sense but things have changed these days and you'll be seen as a netouyo or otaku if you treat feminism like that.

>>32458831
>Japanese left back in the day was also pretty conservative
But Masada's grandma was pretty progressive

>>32458463
>>32458636
The weird definition is in dictionaries that are older than twitter and even older than 2channel (est 1999). So the assertion of >>32457141 that it's intentional misuse by "chancucks and eroge fucks" is just flat out wrong. It's an old and bizarre misinterpretation of an english word and the internet is probably correcting this misinterpretation more than it is promoting it.

>>32458984
I would think her horrible death would indicate her opinions were not shared by the majority.

>>32458984
She's an anarcho-feminist of pre-war era. There's a reason many feminists seem to have aligned with anarchism movements in early 20th century. Anarchism is for the removal of all kinds of oppressive hierarchies and dismantling related power structures so they were okay to appropriate feminist causes. Marxists were different and conservative on the other hand. Anarchism was severely clamped down and only Marxist/social democratic strands of leftism remained in post-war era. Imperial Japan really hates anarchists because they ruthlessly criticized their actions and in the name of direct action threatened to kill politicians and even the emperor himself.

>>32458992
>it's intentional misuse by "chancucks and eroge fucks" is just flat out wrong.
Just cause people making fun of males who supported feminism and thereby bending the definition of feminism existed before chans existed doesn't refute this lmao

>>32459160
>Imperial Japan really hates anarchists because they ruthlessly criticized their actions and in the name of direct action threatened to kill politicians and even the emperor himself.
They have a cameo in sakuretto

>>32459397
Sakuretto's portrayal of political climate of 大正 is pretty cartoony as fuck.

Finished the last biman. As a nukige it fails in every way. The story was mostly nice though. Climax was way too exaggerated, with the MC starting to act out of character, but alas. The entire final arc post climax however was way too long and completely nonsense. And that's also where all the damn ero of the game was chained together in.
They did put in a lot of effort with the game, that's for sure. But they definitely forgot what they were making until it was too late. With how shitty and out of place that weird Renge arc at the end is, I can't blame people for not liking it. Haven't bothered with the 2 early ends. No matter how shitty the Renge arc was, if you remove that, the story was finished okay.

I quite liked the dilemma of Moyoka, which is quite believable. Society has failed really hard here and she needed some real heavy psychological attention after all that happened with here family and the circumstances. I think Japan however especially, but still the world in general, underestimates psychological damage. And she was rather young there, too. Society can only blame itself, and hope she gets some real help. A lot of the game could also be seen with the Mouryou explanation, in that "getting possessed" is ultimately just a big metaphor. The ending in general felt rather weak, so some of this might've just been coincidence, but whatsoever.

>>32353752
AB has it,

>>32458984
And now her great-grandson is a misogynist and has written a chuuni-character based on her killer

>>32466132
You're way too obvious, dude.

>>32466132
Masada is a cringe misogynist. He's a sexist nazi. Must cancel him.

>>32466590
I wasn't trying to bait, just shitposting really...

>>32466590
He's actually telling the truth.

>>32462299
So true.

https://twitter.com/SCA_DI/status/1351739251226939393

>>32469621
>計画的に意味をちゃんと持たせて必然性があれば結構マニアックなプレイでもユーザーはシコってくれる事を学んだのね。
So how many futa scenes is sakutoki getting?

>>32469621
>計画的に意味をちゃんと持たせて必然性があれば
Sakuuta lacked in this factor

I keep having this fantasy I can't stop thinking about... Is there any game where two friends swap their imoutos because they love them but think incest is wrong, so they swap and watch their friend fucking their sister while also falling in love with the friend's sister?

>>32470737
Incest is right.

>>32470737
See >>32470830

>>32388028
>>32391780
Is it recommend to play KnS with a walkthrough? I heard the system is extremely obtuse but it seems like it would kill the fun of piecing the mystery together

>>32471650
Then why are you asking this? Zoomers in this thread will tell you yes and ruin the game for you.

>>32470737
That sounds hot. I need this right now, Japan.

how do i cope that haku story is never getting a sequel and all we will have is the open ending we had since his va died?
can anyone recommend a vn as good/ a protag as based?

>>32472699
Muramasa, duh.

>>32472753
people say muramasa is hard as fuck so i am not confident enough to read it...

>>32472833
That's just a djt meme. What's really hard about it is going through the bloated prose with too much unnecessary descriptions. It's pretty normal language wise.

>>32473288
Might give it a try then, thanks.
Saw a pic of the dark elf dying once though, such a shame she looks best girl

>>32469804
Since Himanatsu, Makura has the most fappable H-scenes of non-nukige for me, but I see most people complaining about it here.

>>32473572
Because they aren't properly placed and also feel unnecessary most of the time in sakuuta.

>>32470830
I know and I fap to incest, but for some reason I have this fantasy in my head. Like imagine you watch your little sister getting fucked while you masturbate to her and she keeps looking at you and says "Onii-chan, don't look" and you know she loves you as well. I know it's a cuck fantasy and I don't care anymore. I just want my imouto happy and getting drilled by someone else while I drill his imouto. And while she will never come close to my imouto, I'll still treasure and love her.

>>32475352
>>>/vg/321567404

>>32475837
lol why did you faggot post that in the EOP general? Amusing and disappointing that there's a rec from them but nothing here.
Anyway that's disgusting rotten milfs, not cute lovable imoutos. Why would I want to fantasize about my mom getting fucked by someone else (again)? At least make it shota+onee-chan.

>>32476327
All the JOPs who read VNs post there. This thread is for pretentious JOPs who just want to show off and accuse each other hookcucks. Also they are cucks.

>>32473369
>spoiler
I am not memeing when I say that you saw that is honestly irrelevant

>>32476327
because he's a faggot who wants to shit up this thread

as for what you want, there's a game sort of like that but with daughters iirc, from bluegale or bluedevil? there might be something closer to what you want but nothing comes to mind right now

>>32470737
Protagonist's Younger Sister as a Heroine + Swinging gets:
https://vndb.org/v2588

Oh yeah btw. I remember someone here complaining about Moyoka not getting an animated scene in biman 5. She has one. Probably an update necessary though.

>>32478597
I don't see any game like that from bluegale or bluedevil but there were a bunch of other fine looking games so thanks.

Beautiful butthole:
https://s2.vndb.org/sf/57/90557.jpg

>>32478956
That actually looks nice, thanks.

>>32479224
He's talking about: https://vndb.org/v13723

Is there a bypass or something for rapidgator premium?

>>32482841
premium link generators.

That's culturally insensitive.

>>32356579
If you're a mommyfag you have more options than ever.

>>32472699
>VN as good/protag as based
By the end of Uta 3 I was quite disappointed in both. I don't think they were making an Uta 4 even before his seiyuu died either. But if you're looking for a long VN style RPG with no ero other than Uta you're kind of shit out of luck. Eiyuu Senki or Evenicle I guess but they both have ero.

>>32476491
Next time don't be so obvious.

>>32489439
I know that what I am saying is pretty obviously true it doesn't need to said.

>>32489623
So don't post here.

>>32490259
Maybe you and your friends don't post here so that this place can become better for once. Currently this is the worst general of /jp/.

what are the best vns to coom to? im new.

>>32491529
Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno.

>>32491529
anything by anim team mm or jinsei tsuukodome.

Is the system in Furuiro Meikyuu Rondo as annoying as it seems to be? I have a whole dictionary of keywords to throw at characters. If the hints are pretty obtuse it seems that it would be pretty hard to pick the right one and I hate using guides.

If it's hard and annoying to use the scenario doesn't really seem interesting enough so far to justify it

>>32490377
Fuck off, Vtuber cuck.

>>32491569
where to download

>>32492897
The internet.

>>32492897
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2963960

>>32491529
ricotta for vanilla cooming. If you dont like pee avoid i guess.

>>32492959
anything in english? i read somewhere id have to change my system locale to jap. i dont wanna do that.

>>32493043
Sorry bro, you're in the wrong general, try asking in the other one. Apologies for the mistake.

>>32493043
>>>/vg/

Though it seems you can't handle English either. Must be the shade of your skin.

is there some secret epilogue or something in gunjou no sora wo koete i missed or does it really just at that speech?

>>32495836
just end at that speech?*

>>32495836
You are just too stupid and got filtered.

>>32496765
>You are just too stupid
im not going to deny that possibility, I still managed thoroughly enjoy it but i'd be lying if I said i was entirely satisfied with it just ending there.

Also im missing some CGs like the one where takako is consoling a crying wakana and kanako holding a grease gun(?), if a genius like you could help a peabrain like me get these at least, that would be nice

>>32497476
I don't know who Takako is but I have 100% and see no such CGs. You can follow a guide on any of the normal sites to get whatever it was you missed.

>>32497734
>I don't know who Takako
Siren.

They are in the ehentai cg gallery for the game, weird.

>>32497734
ok nevermind i was just missing some early cgs in kanakos route.

Wonder what those CGs on ehentai are though.

holy fuck

>>32498625
And yet his posture is good.

>>32487403
They are also both shit. Okay, maybe Utawa is as well, I haven't played them.

Also there is some other stuff. Trails (not like I'd recommend that). Most people would probably be fine with Persona as well. Also Gust's Surge Concerto.

Of course if you want to have a good protag, you generally have issues with Japanese media. While I do think the protagonist SHOULD be the best developed character, given that they are in the center and as such hog a ton of screen time, Japanese media tend to not do that. So at that point you can only really point to maybe Rance, who at least is quite.. iconic?
But yeah, good protagonists in Visual Novels. I'm not confident I could make a list with more than 10 games on it, without being very lenient. Most VNs are simply not written with that in mind. So you can be lucky if they are at least funny or something.

>>32500572
>this post
www

>>32495836
It baffles me that anyone would willingly fly something like that with a fully glass cockpit. All it takes is one serious software issue that wasn't caught in testing to essentially force anyone who doesn't have many thousands of PIC hours to bail out.
God those things look like fucking deathtraps.

>>32502732
>fully glass cockpit
pretty sure they are usually acrylic plastics but still, if this games depictions are anything to go by, you are pretty much fucked if you get locked on to no matter how good a pilot, especially in large, long range engagements

>>32487403
I dont mind ero but i am more interested in interesting plotges than in a wank

>>32503319
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cockpit
I was more referring to the fact that everything in the JAS-39 seems to be shown from three giant LCDs, the HUD, and I'd presume some some sort of HMD. These are generally controlled by the same computer/set of computers, and if something causes these to go out, everything gets a lot harder. Fighter jets in general are essentially lawn darts with jet engines strapped to them. As such, they're usually very finnicky at low speeds (i.e., when landing) and taking away any means of checking things like airspeed or altitude will just make things worse.

>>32491839
>Is the system in Furuiro Meikyuu Rondo as annoying as it seems to be?
It isn't particularly difficult, it's just kind of shit. The keywords aren't that hard to figure out and you can also get in-game hints for what to do if you get stuck. There's only few points in the entire game where you need to get a keyword from whole another route and it's made obvious you can't advance without them, otherwise it's mostly the game just asking whether you've been paying attention for the last few minutes, like repeating some verb you were just told. As I remember, the vast majority of keywords never get used and you'll just get penalized if you use them. The flowchart looks really convoluted, but the story is actually really linear, and the map is designed in a misleading manner that makes it looks complex.

Fate point system is absolutely retarded as well: every character has their own health bar and even getting keywords correct can lower them, and there's no correlation whatsoever which keyword does what in terms of fate points. If you get someone's points to zero the game just instantly throws you a generic game over screen, then restores a checkpoint with said character's fate points higher than they were before, meaning you can brute force those parts. Additionally there's few forbidden keywords that also instantly throw you a similar arbitrary game over regardless of context. For all intents and purposes you can ignore the point system, because I'm pretty sure the devs didn't bother thinking it through either.

Plot wise the mid-parts have few okayish ideas, but they're not really developed well and the whole game wraps up with a bunch of cliches you've probably seen ten times in other titles already, while not bothering to flesh out how its own stuff even works apart from complete non-explanations like it's magic, I ain't gonna explain shit, so it's not like the game offers its own unique twist on the formula.

Can't wait to whore her out to fat ugly oji-sans.

>>32513751
Just started this too. Where did you get the 1.18 update? I only found the 1.15 on sukebei and AS.

>>32515358
I started the game after installing and it offered to download the update by itself. Spooky.

>>32515652
You think that's spooky check this out. You can also download the patch from... the developer's website!

>>32515776
You idiot, you know what I mean. A pirated copy connecting to the dev website makes me paranoid.

>>32505901
I thought the flowchart looked very complicated so and confusing compared to something like Extravaganza so I'm glad it's actually not.

>every character has their own health bar and even getting keywords correct can lower them, and there's no correlation whatsoever which keyword does what in terms of fate points

This sounds really dumb and frustrating, but good to know it's not too bad picking the right keyword. I already messed it up because I forgot the order of the steps for making tea but that was like the next day.

I'll probably stick it out for a few more hours at least.

>>32516179
>it's not too bad picking the right keyword
You get a couple bonus scenes at the end if you don't screw up enough to get any generic bad ends.

I for once really glad about the Remake trend that's happening now in eroge. Hope it keeps up for a while

>>32520159
Because you're too much of a faggot to read the originals or because you like encouraging the death of creativity at the hands of profit?

>>32520159
Is it mostly so that they run on newer os? I was looking at the comparisons august had for yoake on their site and couldn't tell much of a difference

>>32520232
Not him but the first one, too many old games have shit art.

>>32520159
>old bad, new good
>old bad, old in shiny new coat good
zoom zoom. yikes

>>32520371
Do you not read old games at all and just hope they get remade eventually?

>>32520343
there's practically no difference for yoake and the old version even runs on win10 i just installed it the other week
though when anon says "remake trend" he probably means releases of games with stuff like redone art and modern qol changes rather than just compatibility versions

>>32520343
>>32520768
yoake is just an HD remaster. tsui no sora would be a remake. a rerelease that only adds modern OS compatibility is a port. people tend to call everything a remake because language is dead and clear definitions are muddled nowadays.

And dropped

>>32520883
yoake is not an hd remaster it still runs at 800x600 native
there's 1600x1200 option but it's just a resolution doubler similar to using https://tanalin.com/en/projects/integer-scaler/

>>32520371
Fun fact: between 2000 and 2010 especially, eroge had more budget than today. Animated opening movies, cutscenes, animations in rather gorgeous backgrounds, all of that happened. The only problem with old games is the resolution. But nowadays, where simple animations and lipsync should be a lot easier to have, the industry almost gave up on that entirely.

The medium regressed, in a lot of ways. Doesn't mean you can't have fun with newer works, but in general everything is a bit more lazy. There are still exceptions and it looks like recently things get a little better, but we'll see how that continues.

Who is gambs?

>>32521189
>download game from 2008/09
>comes with 10 zips for OST, drama CDs, insert songs, booklets, 4koma etc.
Yeah I can believe the budget thing. At least some devs had it or put more effort into goodies and marketing. It all went downhill with the switch to 16:9, same for anime.

>>32522206
plebbit tranny who's translating sca-di games, irrelevant to us.

>>32522576
And what is his quarrel with the cartel?

>>32522206
A cool guy, he's kinda autistic though.
He's hated by a bunch of losers for not sucking moogy and his retarded friends' dicks.

How is Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na in terms of comedy? I read a few hours of Daitoshokan a while ago and found a lot of the jokes were trashy for a moege, are most August games like this?

>>32523241
Daitoshokan is the fun august game.

>>32523241
Well, before I played Yoake I read often that it's extremely boring and lacks the humor of Daito. Then I read and loved it. I'd say the comedy is similar in style but less in your face. The main difference between the two games is the setting. Daito is school-focused whereas Yoake is broader (family at home, neighbors/job, school, other places in town). Yoake being more "boring" might be because of how relaxed the mood is generally. Like you get many scenes that might seem irrelevant like going to the riverbank with your sister to lie on the grass and listen to her playing the flute, or taking walks with your dogs, or dinnertime with food autism etc. But even those "meaningless" scenes contain enough comedy and everything helps bringing the themes of family and bonds together.
TLDR: if you dislike the comedy style of Daito then Yoake might be the same for you. If you didn't like it for other parts then you might like Yoake because it has a different feel to it than Daito. Similar yet different.

>>32524275
That stuff you listed makes it sound even more laidback, will be trying it tonight. Definitely prefer the variety over just taking place in school, too. Mainly I thought Daitoshokan was going to be full of the comfy things you mentioned, but there were a lot of lewd jokes in the beginning and not to mention the picture of the main girl being groped circulated throughout the school. Hence while I called the comedy "trashy", basically a mismatch of expectations when I was hoping for something a bit more meaningful.

>>32524773
I think I get what you mean. Daito always seemed laidback but didn't feel really comfy for a number of reasons. And it had a few scenes shoving oppai in your face or the accuse of sexual harassment etc. Yoake doesn't really do that, it's more SoL. The MC is also very different. Kakei is an intellectual loner whereas Tatsuya is a hardworking responsible family guy. He's also quite a crybaby in a positive sense.
I'd also say between the two games the music is VERY different. Daito has this jazzy electro pop style(?) that can get annoying/boring/samey, and Yoake has a more oldschool BGM with different styles. Always felt right be it the character themes, relaxing everyday music, slapstick themes, dramatic or emotional themes.

Expect a slow start in Yoake. I immediately got into it, but I like this style of game. There wasn't a single character I disliked. Feena's route is a really good intro. Other routes really depend on what you're looking for. Mai is an excellent imouto route, Natsuki is a rare good osananajimi, Sayaka is comfy love. Mia I didn't like too much but still made me smile often. The all-ages routes are also good. Midori might even be the best route and romance. Estel's route is LONG (~9h), like twice other routes and it can be extremely slow, but she's one of the best heroines and the ending is perfect.

For my route order I tried to avoid "character conflicts" which mostly worked out fine:
Feena > Sayaka > Mia > Estel > Natsuki > Mai > Midori > Wreath > Feena2
In hindsight I'd say space out Mai/Sayaka, Mai/Natsuki and Natsuki/Midori. Estel and Midori I used as filler so I could get breaks from H-scenes lol. Estel might be better before the final 2 routes though. Feena/Mia I spaced out because of their close relationship, would've been weird to date one after the other.

>>32525761
Thanks man, this is a surprise since I was expecting nothing but the usual "all August games except Daitoshokan are boring" shitposts. Definitely sounds up my alley, from the themes and characters to the overall atmosphere. Also, isn't Estel an all-ages route? So that's 9+ hours without h-scenes? That is some effort.

Seems like a fairly long game but hopefully I can post some impressions when I'm done.

>>32527332
>isn't Estel an all-ages route
Pretty sure she had her own h-scenes.

>>32515358
lol tard

Is Keyorina worth playing if I loved Aiyoku?

>>32520232
>>32520382
tried not to be trannies?

As someone who isn’t particularly big on bukkake and always picks 中出し when given the option I didn’t expect to enjoy this game as much as I am doing.
Covering in jizz the girls eventually becomes sex which is varied, fun and lewd, which destroyed the impression I had from the title but didn’t let me dissatisfied. The setting feels well executed. It doesn’t have the useless padding other nukiges have always in the narration and the scenes (both H and not) are just the right length.

>>32532843
Just as Daitoshokan isn't like Eustia, neither is YoakeMae.

So perhaps. But don't expect Eustianess.

>>32523843
It's terrible actually. Don't understand why many JOPs worship it.

>>32541053
You want to share why you thought it was terrible or you just going to plop that fat shitpost there and call it a night.

>>32541123
Don't bother, he's just going to cry about how terrible it is that the game focuses on club activities.

>>32541123
No. I already did that multiple times. Not in the mood for that. Just as you guys can share your one-liner opinion about how fun it is, I can do the same too.

>>32541175
Focusing on club activities isn't the problem. How it fails to do anything fun with the available context and just makes character go through club activities in the most boring way possible is its sin. I mean remember how the best it can do at the end of common route 1 is fucking power outage.

>>32541053
Fuck off, uggo.

>>32541053
bet they're fucking eops lol justl ike fucking eops worships fucking yuzusoft rofl

>>32541196
nice seethe eop

>>32541579
I think it's mostly because these people read daito when they were newfags.

>>32541803
daito still better than your average yuzuge desu

>>32542310
Or literally every yuzuge for that matter, which in itself is an extremely low bar to clear.

>>32542343
not wrong

>>32542343
Stay mad that yuzusoft is the most popular moege company.

>>32542574
why ur so mad, tranny?
nothing wrong with eathing yuzu trash, just don't be so fucking proud about it lol

>>32542610
Based on your lack of capitalization, you are the hookfag. Go spread your wisdom to /vn/ where you belong.

>>32542633
so ur proud about reading ur trashy yuzuge w/o hooker?
nothing to be proud of desu

You fuckers lied to me. After years of reading without texthooks I finally picked them up after 3 jop discords told me its not a shame to use them.

>>32542726
Those are EOP discords then.

>>32542726
So you spend years attempting to read without texthooking, yet still need it afterwards?

Maybe the problem is your lacking mental capabilities?

>>32542726
> taking advices rom elitist ill trannies on /jp/

>>32542343
Yuzusoft at least has ichacha in their routes. What about daito? Short heroine routes filled to the brim with dumb bland drama and then it throws at two soulless H scenes and 2 ichaicha scenes at you just to fill the quota.

JOP hivemind likes daito.
Simple as

>>32543687
>soulless
caught faggot
>Yuzusoft at least has ichacha in their routes
not really, just some lame ass friends banter, no ichacha
> dumb bland drama
sounds like yuzusoft

Daito is probably the worst case of boring club shit I've ever seen

>>32543901
>not really, just some lame ass friends banter, no ichacha
Routes means heroine routes, not the common route.

>>32544852
exactly, and yuzu fails to deliver proper ichacha in heroine routes
especially bad in rj and stella

>>32544918
Not that your opinion as a hookfag EOP is relevant in any way, but son of a bitch's Meguru is the greatest ichaicha of all time. The whole fucking route is ichaicha. Read it newfriend.

>>32544961
> i'm worthless moefag, my taste is shit and i eat yuzutrash, but i'm out of arguments so time to appeal to him being hookcuck instead
pathetic, try reading something actually good, moecuck
bet you're one of self-insert cowtits fags

>>32545051
>moecuck
Revealed your true colors. Plotcuck talking about ichaicha as if they even know what it is. Hilarious.

mfw yuzufag defending THIS
truly pathetic, bros

>>32545087
bet you can't read shit without texthooker, so that's why you're worthless moeswine

>>32545155
This is a thread for Japanese readers only. Only people who read in Japanese without training wheels are allowed to discuss eroge here. Please leave and never return.

>>32545202
> This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
is your english comprehension as bad as your jp comprehension?
do you have 90% at least, lol?

>>32543901
Still better than fucking daito

>>32545572
not really

Jesus fuck, you all disgust me.

>>32545671
DO NOT SAY HIS NAME YOU TARD

>>32541803
if you read Japanese with texthooks and have to look up words you don't know Japanese. That's how it is.

>>32545202
Sadly for you most people around here use text hooker and we are not leaving, sweetheart.

>>32546101
True, if you don't use texthooker, but need to look something up via radical search or kanji drawing, then you don't know japanese either.

>>32546195
>most people
Only now that all the people who actually want to discuss untranslated games have left for other places because of the endless shitposting from hookers. You can't even blogpost any more because you'll post a screenshot from a game and no one can read it since they can't hook images.

>>32546416
Are you suggesting to post eroge screenshots along with parser screenshot?

>>32546416
Good, this thread is for discussion and not blogposting, though I can always use a translation app for screenshots.

Time for pachinko

>>32527332
Most routes took me ~5 hours, one route is ~2 hours, and a few are like 8/9 hours. Overall I'd say 50+ hours long counting the two all-ages routes. I'd definitely recommend reading those as they're good and continued (with H-scenes) in the FD.
Estel's route is a good example to show the difference between original 18+ routes and console routes. Her route was clearly written without having to shove H-scenes in and the romance takes a long time to happen unlike the normal routes. You can tell the writer wasn't confined to the same structure. Normal routes have 1-3 H-scenes that have to happen, so the romance and drama need to be spaced out a certain way. For the console routes this doesn't apply and they could focus on other things and take their time with romance. That's not to say it's better or worse. I think Estel deserved more romance but the route works as is, whereas Midori had a ton of romance and decent drama just no H.

>>32543687
>Daito
>two soulless H scenes and 2 ichaicha scenes
Wow if you think the H in Daito is soulless and bad you just proved how retarded you are.