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She is boring and lazy. Any new fans she gets will be turned off eventually from her lack of communication and lack of effort in content. All of her fans that are loyal have probably been watching her for years so no shit she barely grows

she's 100k higher than mel. she's nowhere near the lowest.

>>32239038
OP here, you right, i forgot about Mel, but i guess the same thing counts? low effort streams or no streams at all?

>>32239130
Mel was banned when Hololive blew up in popularity. As for Choco, it seems she only panders to JOPs and doesn't get clipped much

>>32238952
She's got close to 500k subscribers now on her main channel. She's not doing that bad. Mel and Choco both got kind of fucked over by youtube demonetizing ASMR content, especially since they do the sexy Japanese kind of instead of the regular kind.
Also Choco only plays debuff games for her gaming content.

>>32239224
>banned
what happened?

>>32239509
Jesus christ. Just leave.

>>32239546
Tryhard

>>32239025
This now
>/thread

>>32239509
newfriend, please lurk in the hlg community for 6 months before posting

>>32239509
Go back

She is still very active on her roommate's account. Also her milkers rival Danchou's. She definitely knows she gets much more viewers for her more raunchy streams than her gaming. If she ends up leaving hololive she might end up in a JAV.

>>32239482
Man, I'm still wondering why the fuck youtube hates jap ASMR. Plenty of Western ones are just as raunchy, which really isn't raunchy. And even then, fucking Belle Delphine gets to keep her channel when she posts something lewder than WAP but god forbid I see a girl with cleavage rub a bamboo stick into a meme mic

>>32238952
She just wants to do porn ASMR and is half-assing it until her contract is up and she can graduate.

>>32256707
>she might end up in a JAV.
God I would love to see her get blacked.

>>32257247
>God I would love to see her get blacked.

>>32257247
I wouldn't
>>32257213
i got into hololive in October, well after youtube fucker her channel up. How'd she used to be?

why does Aki Rose such few subs?

>>32257247
Yikes

>>32256707
Could someone post a link to the roommate's twitter or post the roommate's name in Japanese? I did my roommate reps so I know who the roommate is but sources never put her name in a way where I can copy and paste it into google.

>>32257352
She's really really grown over the last few months believe it or not. I think people are finally starting to see how great she is

>>32243544
>>32239546

Since you're an ass, here is the wiki comment. Congrats, your super secrets are topped by a google search


"Mel's comeback stream on June 24, 2020 was banned twice by YouTube, resulting in her being called a BANpire, and having a censor bar around her chest to circumvent the bans. Is one of the Hololive Production VTubers with a verified YouTube channel."

>>32257974
>Congrats, your super secrets are topped by a google search
Exactly. The newfag could've easily done it himself

>>32257734
Baby wants the spoonfed.
Fuck off out of these internets.

>>32257352
She was sick or something around the time they really got popular and was out for quite a while. She just never could catch up.

>>32238952
Choco and Mel don’t really care about their hololive success. They prefer to stream on their roommate accounts which is fine but that means you shouldn’t care about their low sub counts / viewers. Redirect that concernfagging for someone more deserving like Aki.

>>32257352
She was sick for a while and had bad self esteem so when she was passed up by the newer gens breaking out she didn't want to bother them unless she felt she had something to offer them back.

>>32263752
I'm glad all the EoPs subbed to her and actually still watch her. She puts a lot of work in so its nice seeing her get noticed finally.

Must be pretty surreal for her having a fanbase that can't even understand her

>>32265115
She has a nice voice so every streams is also asmr stream.

>>32258442
he literally said he already tried searching but couldn't find a thing. same thing happens when searching for subaru's roomate

>>32239038
I still love Mel...

>>32238952
shes an inferior noel in terms of boobs, and her funny moments are all matsuri style but more bland, she isnt really a gamer,

>>32260979
>Choco and Mel don’t really care about their hololive success.
If Choco doesn't care, why would she bother to collab with anyone? Why would she agree to perform at Bloom, especially considering that being an idol was never her forte?
I think Choco does care, she just signed up to do one thing and then had the rug pulled out from under her. It would be like if Korone was forbidden from playing games or something.
It's true that Choco's had trouble adapting and she should shoulder some of the blame for that. But would you prefer if she just became a carbon copy of some other, more successful holo?
I think Choco should find her own way, and if that means she'll never be successful again so be it.

>>32238952
She can start by playing anything other than ARK.

>>32257734
>I did my roommate reps so I know who the roommate is but sources never put her name in a way where I can copy and paste it into google.
Anon, what the fuck does this even mean?

>>32256707
>If she ends up leaving hololive she might end up in a JAV.
She's extracting ~$3,000/month from 30 guys who want to marry her, even without Hololive. She'll likely just pick up a token job, go husband-hunting, and transition over to being a housewife ASAP.
>>32257247
Your desires are too powerful, anon.

>>32279882
Anon probably found them here because all of the doxx posts containing the holo members' roommate is an image. Prolly can't copy and paste the name off it.

>>32238952
Choco is basically Noel, but if everything went wrong.
YT took ASMR from both, but Noel's character concept didn't center itself on that. Moreover, she's automatically paired with Flare, and didn't spend as much time in an uphill battle against Youtube. Her other channel is already more than large enough to float her by, and she's part of Hololive's Gen 3 (as opposed to Sololive), which automatically gets her tons of attention.
Finally, ARK. It never ends...

>>32260979
I think they enjoy the whole Hololive job and find the other parts outside of ASMR streams pretty meaningful. Either way, they profit from different types of viewers, and they do seem to have more interest in singing that say peko.

>>32258239
>Trying to gatekeep vtubers
lmao

>>32280353
She has a double debuff of ARK and APEX.

>>32239224
She wasn't banned, she was away because her manager sexually harassed her.
Don't try to sweep it under the rug.

>>32281267
I thought they all had female Mane-chans.

>>32276237
>If Choco doesn't care, why would she bother to collab with anyone? Why would she agree to perform at Bloom, especially considering that being an idol was never her forte?
Because she gets paid to do so you retard

>>32238952
Youtube fucked her and her niche over pretty hard but she does nothing to recover that lost that lost by basically exclusively streaming ARK
That shit stagnated her viewership and killed any momentum she might've had

>>32281396
This. If I recall it's 3 streams a week, at least 1 hour each, and sometimes idol duty. So as far as she's concerned, she got paid.

>>32256707
Where do retards like you come from?

>>32281193
>>32239482
What is a "debuff" game?

>>32281330
Jeezus Christ anon how new are you? Mel even went in detail about the harassment and the legal measures she took in a statement a few months before she came back.

>>32282180
Nothing. They are just saying that she isn't interesting enough to make gameplay worth watching if the game isn't something people want to watch on its own

>>32282271
That is true I have watched Pekora play minecraft for hours even though I never even touched the game myself.

>>32281396
Don't be disingenuous. They all get paid, and Choco would get paid even if she did far less. If she really didn't care about hololive then she would just phone in her three short streams per week and any mandatory events. Clearly Choco cares about hololive enough to be putting in a substantial amount of time above what is required by her contract.

>>32283259
You seriously don't think they get paid extra for attending bloom? Are you being retarded? Even Ayame is there

>>32283269
>Acknowledging that Ayame, the laziest holo, is also going to Bloom.

Well other anon, you might as well give up now because that is checkmate.

>>32283350
Ayame is busy slaying schizos all over the world. It's a tireless job.

>>32283350
Ayame, the laziest holo (as you put it), is also attending bloom. Someone who clearly doesn't care about Hololive outside of her paycheck is there meaning they're clearly being paid extra for it. Anyway, if even that doesn't convince you that Choco doesn't care about that shit in the slighest maybe this will
https://files.catbox.moe/3r9ryf.mp3

>>32267739
Subaru is one of the tricky one's, cause i do believe she never tried streaming or something of the matter.

Choco some times play Dead by Daylight and watching her got me into buying and playing the game.

From the Holos I've seen play that game how good they are in order Lamy=Choco>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shion

Lamy is awesome Survivor I wished she play it more.

>>32239038
Still has more subs than Iofi too

>>32284510
>>32239038
Iofi hasn't even been around for a full year yet and Mel missed almost a full year of activity so comparing them to her is pointless

>>32282180
There certain games that actively turn away viewership these games call debuff games, ARK; a game Choco frequently streams is one of such debuff games

>>32239025
This, she literally sounds BORED OUT OF HER MIND, when streaming most of the time. She's the closest thing Hololive has to a twitch thot. She doesn't seem to enjoy streaming and is only doing it for the money probably.

the youtube purge of asmr vids, which is her main content. She still does some occasional asmr livestreams that racks up a lot of viewers.

If Choco's roommate is really as lewd as the other anons here are saying, then the only way to save Choco is to make her roommate become an open secret. Look at what that has done for Coco and Noel.

>>32285926
She isn't I don't know where these larpers are from. All she does is streams talking about her boring daily life

my wife...........

>>32286013
Must be the very same Larpers that thought Lamy was Lamp Meiji.

>>32282241
I'm about 5 or 6 months into the hole. I was looking at Hololive just as Gen 5 debuted and Aloe had just been suspended. I knew about Mel's issues but didn't know she had to press charges.

>>32239509
>>32257974
>>32280669
(you)

>>32286682
Thank you for admitting your newfag-ness anon. It takes a lot of courage to do that even though we've all been newfags.

I can't remember all the details but Mel had to get a lawyer involved because someone (either the police or cover) wasn't doing shit about it. I'd you Google search it you can find TL's of the statement on r*ddit

>>32288403
>(either the police or cover) wasn't doing shit about it.
Neither did anything. The police just told her to stay at home and Cover didn't do shit until Mel had legal leverage over them

>>32238952
She never streams, when she does its a shit game no-one cares about, even if it were a good game, she's boring as shit anyway

>>32238952
People like younger petite girls, not tall older women.

>>32290798
Choco is not even close to the tallest or oldest member of Hololive this has nothing to do with her lack of success

I stopped watching her and others when they censored for YouTube

I'm sorry sensei, please get your shit in order...

>>32295844
Based

>>32295844
Like that will make her do. from the looks of it she will hit 500k.

It not like if she will get fired from Hololive. since Hololive has never been like a Idol company even when they said they were a Virtual one.

>>32295844
Based.

>>32296106
>that one stress with that weird ass milestone
It's like 440K or something she was going for but it was so goddamn strange I'm hating how she's somewhat bearable on her roommate shit compared to being tente. Goddamn youtube

>>32296406
She was taking her channel in the right direction earlier in 2020 but just gave up sometime around August/September
She deserves the current state of the channel until she gets off her ass

>>32296500
Even when started doing it again around November onwards it feels like her asmr nosedived just as hard. One of her recent had the pog champ shit and it straight up just killed thr mood completely for me

>>32296620
She got a sound booth around November and even has a sound interfact that she got recommended by Noel but from the sound quality you literally wouldn't be able to tell. Haato with her shitty laptop, connection and mic manages to produce better quality stuff even when she was stranded in Australia because she at least bothers to look up what settings to use which Choco is apparently too stupid/lazy (could be both at the same time) to do

>>32296500
Funny this all shows you can be lazy and do fine. Look at poor Nene and Aki having to try so hard and Aki eventually got to where she at due to Reddit.

Nene is close to 400k I feel her design debuffed her.

Plus from what I seen of Choco she doesn't really play games her other co-worker do. Heck she doesn't play Minecraft and mostly everyone play it. She just bounced after making that clinic for Sport Festival lol

>>32297675
Choco is doing worse than both Nene and Aki if you want a real reflection of her current fanbase look at her Sub Channel's sub count. Mel would probably beat Choco in superchats rankings if you could see the stats from memberonly streams too since she gets red superchat rains in those. There is not a single statistic Choco does better than another girl in

>>32238952
No idea

>>32290798
>People like younger petite girls, not tall older women.
We've been having regular hag threads right on this very board so you're pretty wrong there

Her main appeal was her design and ASMR content. Both got her shadowbanned by YouTube. Her design got nerfed and now her ASMR is member only. When she does stream it's usually ARK.

>>32307473
If that happened to me I would probably try to branch out or find a new niche instead of do things half-assed

>>32307473
The problem with this is it places the blame on someone else (youtube). Pitying Choco is wrong because the current state of her channel is self-inflicted. Other vtubers had this problem and are still doing fine because they are actually entertaining

>>32307736
I think we can blame youtube for how it only singled out mainly japanese ASMR when it leaves even worse things up with no issue, but other than that I agree.

I hate that because I do want to like Choco's stuff more, but there isn't much aside from the once-in-a-great-while nonmember asmr

>>32283549
At least make your clips with context you schizo faggot.

>>32307884
You call me a schizo and you deny the reality presented to you. Amazing

>>32307904
That clip can mean half a dozen different things depending on context, one of them matches up with the narrative you're presenting and it's far from the most likely meaning. I call you a schizo faggot because you put more effort into talking shit about Choco than she does into her $5000+/month job.

>>32238952
Didn't read the thread, but basically, sex DOESN'T sell when it comes to Hololive. Not for a lack of audience, necessarily, but because Youtube actively screws over that kind of stuff, so that's why Choco and Mel are low on the radar

Basically, fuck youtube
Fuck choco

>>32297722
>There is not a single statistic Choco does better than another girl in
Hours played in ARK

>>32315900
Why does she love ARK so much???

>>32308810
Do you think if holo and niji combined to make their own video streaming service, that they have enough of a following that it could survive on its own while just putting clips on youtube?

>>32318230
Given the views pulled in I wonder if superchats and membership would outweigh the cost of servers and general site maintenance.

>>32318160
Why does Matsuri love APEX so much?
It's really bad when Matsurisus have to tell her to stop.

>>32290798
Wrong.

>>32325453
Is that true? That Matsuri fans tell her to stop playing APEX?

lmao

But currently watched her play with Towa and some Niji for some tournament. Are they telling Matsuri to drop out?

>>32315900
>Hours played in ARK
That's actually not true anymore either, other girls took her over when she stopped playing and played Apex instead

Ayame tries her best!!! Die bullies!

>>32333962
This isn't the Ayame bullying thread this is the Choco bullying thread

>>32333962
She does her best and then fucks off to play League for weeks. I honestly believe she could be near the top of the JP Holos if she wasn't so god damn lazy.

>>32333685
No of course not right now. It happened when she became obsessed with Apex and it was all she would stream.

>>32325453
Choco's fans would do the same if they liked her as much as Matsuri's fans like Matsuri. The fact that they never complain about shit like that shows that they aren't really that invested in Choco outside of treating her like their virtual girlfriend

why does Choco have a second channel? just found out

>>32339476
So she can milk two memberships from her fans

>>32339516
ok and serious answer? no one else seems to have a sub channel, she even streams on it

>>32339567
That was your serious answer. That's literally the only reason she keeps it

>>32339579
and why did she start the second channel?

>>32339593
Back when her Haato and Aki got demonetised instead of getting YouTube to reinstate it Cover told them to make new channels and get monetisation on that instead. Choco was the only one who kept the account active, Aki and Haato just moved back onto their normal ones after it was sorted

>>32339619
alright, thanks anon
it seemed just weird that not only she has a second channel, but posts exclusive content on it
my first thought was that she posts lewd ASMR on it, but I saw she also streams on it
confusing
have booba for your efforts

>>32339713
She doesn't do anything lewd on either account she just splits the content that any other Holo would do for members only (ASMR, simulwatches, utawakus) between the two accounts so she can get twice as much money from one person

I kinda wish she just did porn, would be better content

>>32346552
RJ277717

Well from reading all this I can sum this up that Choco is happy even she being "lazy" and the fans are happy too.

I also see that Choco.
1. Is not a number person or care about sub memberships numbers.

2. Hololive/streaming is a side gig for her.
3. She really loves playing those two debuff games like APEX/ARK.

4. Doesn't really care about not getting supachats.

The anon a few post above has it right. Don't like the Vtuber content then cancel your membership sub and unsubscribe.

If more did what the Anon did above I assume it would light fire under her feet to put more "effort" in

>>32346680
Is that her main gig?

>>32346680
Thanks anon.

Listened to bits of it. It's just your typical lewd ASMR. Starts off with ear cleaning, ear licking, foreplay (handjob then blowjob), and sex all while Choco Sensei whispers sweet nothings. There are two versions of the sex scene: one with a really annoying squeaking noise (to simulate a bed rocking) and with a slapping noise. It's hot at first but then you realize that Choco is squealing the whole time. Also the nutshot noises really bad to the point where it's funny. It's the closest thing you'll get to actually fucking and cumming in Choco (I believe she asks you to nut in her) so if you're into that, I'd say give it a listen.

Her cuddling with Ui-mama made me feel funny

>>32355125
Whoah where's this at?

>>32355440
She had a cooking stream with her a few weeks back

hame, hamu hame, hame, hambe hamu hame

>>32318230
Way too big of a risk. People are lazy and want to get their entertainment from one resource, not divide their time from other Youtube videos and migrate just for their favorite VTubers. Just look at Mixer.

>>32358805
Maybe rumble will win their anti trust suit.

>>32238952
CHOCO LOVE!

She needs to do more ASMR, or maybe a pachinko stream

God I wish that were me.

>>32349675
No. It's a one time thing she did because she was desperate for money after being demonetised

>>32376274
Post the gif retardchama.

>>32379604
God someone get her demonized again, just think of the JAVS we could get in her bid get more shekels

>>32393439
She is far too much of a prude to do actual real world porn like that. She barely shows any skin to the people who pay her $100 a month

how raunchy is her gutara account/streams?

>>32394289
Not at all. Just regular, boring everyday talk. She doesn't do porn or something like Mel or Noel do where does everyone get this impression from?

>>32394462
and the madwoman charges $100 for it. pretty hilarious

>>32395222
If you're talking about the one a month stream (even then it doesn't always happen and no refunds :^) ) it's less raunchy than the overpriced shit Hololive sells from booth

>>32394462
Honestly I'm real tempted to start checking out mel's roommate stuff

>>32396485
She's really good at what she does. If you understand Japanese it's far better than what other girls of that type do.

>>32396501
Not really. If you know what you're looking for you can find her latest one where she shows her labia majora that is always posted very easily.

>>32398359
That one is from June it isn't her latest at all it's old as fuck

>>32399370
What ever. It still the easiest to find and it shows she's nothing special in the ways of ero asmr.

>>32399549
You don't even know what you are talking about so why do you bother to reply to me as if you do

>>32399838
At least I don't have shit taste.

>>32399870
You don't even understand Japanese so why are you acting like what I said applies to you retard? Go back to your home website

>>32399885
That's a big assumption nerd boy. I know it upsets you that your waifu is just another run of the mill tramp but dem da breaks.

>>32396485
even though she is not that popular in the jp lewd asmr, mel's roommate has some of the most sluttiest asmr vids.

>>32400075
I wish she streamed more as mel, I feel kinda bad preferring the roommate more than the holo.

>>32400136
i like them both, i was not a fan of mel but I got newfound respect for her after a lot of shits has happened to her from stalking issues to youtube banning her and surprisingly after all that she hasn't graduated yet. Hope she remains in holo for years to come

Any members that can r8 her ASMR?

>>32318160
She doesn't, she just can't be assed to dedicate one braincell towards her channel anymore.

>>32400075
You say sluttiest ASMR vids, but is that from the perspective of someone who knows JPN? Meaning, is the sluttiness from what she is saying or the roommate herself? I've seen the roommate before and she isn't a sight to behold like Noel's.

>>32400075
I've only seen the one where she bends over and puts the mic between her crotch.

>>32238952
obviously that's because Cute Noises, Happy Vibes or Chaotic Vibes pass the language barrier more easily. idk, someone like Korone or Pekora has a better appeal to a random audience than Choco because she's not as intense or expressive? a lot more chill, so you're only left with the Japanese fans -> lower sub count.

>>32413028
forgot to say this but adding onto this, that's why the HoloID Gen2 Sub count is Ollie > Reine > Anya. Anya is the most chill. so for Indonesians who don't understand english or JP she's not as interesting as Ollie. Reine also isn't energetically through the roof, but her design is extremely appealing.

>>32238952
https://youtu.be/ucLKlJIWP8s?t=121

>>32403520
3/10
https://files.catbox.moe/4nbks3.txt
See for yourself

>>32413028
Like 80% of her viewers are foreign because people that can understand Japanese will understand how vapid her conversation topics are and how boring she is and fuck off. Look at her chat at any point in time and half of it is English and 80% of it is non-members

>>32419530
What?! I'm watching her recent DBD stream and I still see quite few members. To me there both green and whites in chat. I wouldn't put a % which is higher or so.

And speaking of that video these Chinese Antis need to FUCK OFF WITH THE SPAM.

Just because Choco did that ARK collab with Coco now they spaming Choco. I guess Aki and Polka are next -_-

>>32426367
>DBD
Now go to a stream that people who aren't members will actually watch

>>32419530
Just how vapid are we talking about?

>>32427282
Her last zatsudan she literally spent like 40 minutes talking about makeup

>>32238952
>why Choco-sensei has so little subscribers
>Ranked #46 worldwide
>little

>>32419530
fair point, I simply don't know shit and was just random guessing out of my ass. I couldn't care less about Choco because I can't understand JP so I never really noticed what her chat looks like. I guess I was just thinking that my opinions on her reflect other EOPs, that we don't really want to sub to her or watch her.

but also chat =/= subs though. a lot of foreign viewers in the chat doesn't mean the percentages translate to roughly the same amount in subs. however in the context of OP's post idk if "popular" here is talking about either, could be both.

talking about low Sub Count, Mel's is also relatively low I think. They both have no dedicated clippers unlike that one Aki clip where she got depressed about her count and the clip got recommended to people so overnight she broke through 300K milestone or something. it's just a fact that they can't all be as popular because there's a limited amount of unique, interesting "entertainers" a company can try to mass-produce.

>>32427297
That just sounds like typical women stuff though.

>>32435236
She's pretty much the only Holo to ever bring it up outside of a stream where she's actually applying it (like Coco)

>>32430317
i'm curious, what did you mean by #46 here?

#46 content creator worldwide? #46 Female Vtuber? what's the category here? and what about her is being ranked, subcount right?

i doubt she's #46 "any-content-creator" category worldwide though but maybe I just haven't realized how big hololive has grown.

>>32238952
Maybe I would watch the sexy teacher if she actually did anything entertaining.

>>32444687
Well that's not happening

>>32441313
Yeah, I checked some sub rankings list earlier today and she's NOWHERE near 46. We need more context

>>32444687
I just watch her for the boobas.

>>32461930
How smooth brain are you if a moving png is all you need to spend hours watching a stream?

>>32461972
They're nice boobas though

>>32461972
you would know if you had some testosterone in your blood.

>>32461972
not even about vtubers, even just a voice is enough to make me spend hours watching a stream. my life is just that boring and empty that I would do anything when the opportunity comes to me.

>>32468100
Based Mr. T
Who's your favorite holo?
you were my favorite guy in The A-Team btw

>>32461972
Boobas and that binaural 4K saliva audio porn is more than enough.

>>32468170
hard to answer but my favorite JP holo is probably Botan or Towa
what's A-team again? lol i don't think I frequent this site often to get recognized, but considering most people go anon, I might try doing that too sometime

>>32476881
Disgusting.

>>32238952
Hag love!

>>32477005
thank you, as an M i appreciate it

Choco has really good interaction during cooking streams. If you ask a good question she’s pretty much guaranteed to respond.

>>32238952
Mommy...

>>32238952
Isnt she shadowbanned on youtube?

>>32497201
That's Mel probably.

>>32481310
She isn't even that old.

>>32238952
Has she ever done her own IQ test?

>>32238952
>Is there a reason or shes just not interesting?
Can't sing