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Begone, you vile leech

>>32015825
Cousins*

>>32015825
her days are numbered anon.

>>32015825
Uto seems like a shitty person behind the scenes, so hopefully never.

Uto did nothing wrong. Just like a certain Austrian.

>>32015825
There’s no fucking way she’s still sleeping on this. If she really do nothing then everything she did to build up her base and that really will get fucked and it’ll be almost impossible to recover from.

>>32016388
At least she got a new pc from all of this.

>>32015967
>>32016388

>Fuck, what the hell is she even doing and there’s no way she could be just sleeping or some shit.
People generally don't want to deal with drama queens. I have seen the story and it was already resolved in private, but the artist just wanted the drama in public, and the youtubers starving for drama jumped on it like vultures.

>>32016388
How will she get metaphorically fucked? Cancelled on twitter?

>>32016384
>>32016388
>not new IPs
The state of this thread.

>>32016502
So her strategy is to ignore until he gets tired or something?

>>32016310
More like JP Hero Hei, except he has enough credibility and rabid JP fans to attack. This is even his first video of the new year and he’s pretty much pulling all the shit out like most fucking vultures do.

>>32016502
The fact of the matter is if she does nothing she allow the drama to become even bigger. This is pretty much close to being fucking doxx. It’s not even about ignoring this but she has to do something to at least salvage and shut down certain things. This is pretty much the reason Cover kept shitting the bed cause they always wait to long to take action that could be readily nip before it fucks everything up.

>>32016619
Better than being raided.

Who is this and why should I care?

>>32017215
Kizuna Ai, varchal yutuver

So to recap what we know about Amatsuka Uto last thread, lots of stuff are still in Japanese previously so EOPs are still not aware of it yet.

Basically it started with
>she did not pay an artist until that said artist pestered her and made it an issue
Then people dig further into her stuff. I will be leaving her multiple past life dramas out since it is irrelevant
>fake indie while being backed by Chinese company
Some said she failed audition in hololive but this can never be confirmed due to how NDA works. Last thread the JOPs pretty much get the fake indie part settled.

>>32015510
Basically just repeated what this thread has been saying, nothing new. Although he also included the initial leeching videos and tags which Uto deleted.

>>32016550
That’s only if she’s lucky. Since they have all her information she’ll probably never get any work anymore in relation to vtubing or even online in general. She is still in JP and if you’re found to be enough of a burden like with shit like this no one will ever want to work with you ever. No artist, no riggers no nothing. Might as well give up on everything entertainment related and possibly be harassed until you kill yourself. She’s not even big enough to have enough fans to back her up, especially since they’re EOPs who don’t give a shit and won’t give a shit when you’re in trouble.

>>32017143
>defending samefagging
The state of Uto whiteknight.

I genuinely hope never.

>>32015825
Gonna end this "sister" shit, fuck off leech.

https://streamable.com/gx2dyh

>>32017498
Its okay when you shizos do it, right?

>>32017411
>性格が悪い
It pretty muchs sums her up. She also got drama in her previous life.

i want delta uto hololeech collab

>>32016195
>>32016251
>>32016292
>>32016349
>>32017551
>>32017620
Boom, gottem.

>>32017622
Whiteknights are essentially schizos. You should take your meds.

>>32017707
No u

This ain't cool.

She deserved it for being a dirty fucking leech.

>>32017495
If that happens I guess it's time to move overseas like our site owner.

>>32017411
>believing the Chinese company rrat
Are people that retarded?

>>32017827
>>32017908
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GOTTA LEEEECH

>>32017981
Seems so, people keep repeating the same shit even after being proven wrong every thread.

>>32016672
>>32016852

It is up to Uto and her team. In my opinion, the money has already been paid, so only thing she can do is apologize again. But that will not make the vindictive artist happy, and the youtuber vultures would just doxx her and cover her story again. They are only hungry to take down a person.

All in all, a shitty bunch of online nobodies to become entangled with. This kind of losers brought down other vtubers before.

>>32015967
And you said that Hero Hei is a bad option. But he would at least describe the whole situation.
Right now we only have one point of view.

>>32017495
>especially since they’re EOPs who don’t give a shit and won’t give a shit when you’re in trouble.

I'm guessing your the Jap so let me tell you, you clearly underestimate the power of western White Knights and that westerners feed of drama like this to come to defend her.

Did you see Westerners defending Aloe so hard they were about to go on a rampage against cover, had that shit happened not on her debut and people were more invested in her, or if that ever happened to HoloEN, western white knights will blow the fuck out of any JP or CN antis like you've never seen.

>>32017981
>can't read Japanese
Well I mean all the whiteknights are EOPs/ESLs so they can't get the info right. They even got when the artist was paid wrong until people point it out. Not surprising they missed the part where the Japs found out she fake indie.

>>32017981
I fucking loathe how you cringey underaged global retards have called narratives "rrat"
We should have gatekept.

>>32018218
>Using language barrier for misinformation

>>32018307
Slangs can never be gatekeep.

>>32018139
She needs to put out a public apology at the very least to show that she care enough to admit her wrong along with the facts that guy have. She in the end is in the right after paying but by allowing him control over her she is getting herself fucked. Even if he won’t accept an apology privately, if she does it publicly she can at least shift it that she is actually in the right in this situation and kill off his drama.
I was afraid this shit was going to happen and at least expected her to do it yesterday before the vultures circled in. Her time limit now is short as hell now and if she don’t seriously settle this she might as well take a long ass hiatus.

>>32018218
Post the proof then. If it's just her old twitter description that's laughable.

>>32018173
Kek this fucking brown subhuman wanna lecture the JOP without knowing the situation.
Aloe situation is not comparable. She literally did nothing wrong, did not hurt any person. At the same time the whiteknight influenced jack shit. Even though Cover is pretty incompetent most of the time, it is Cover that stepped up and finally the irl harassment stopped. Good luck trying to defend this fake indie from your third world shithole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXK6W2-GuH0
https://twitter.com/narukami_sabaki
鳴神が動いたからまた来たよ。
鳴神裁は悲しい犬が台頭するまでは一番強かったゴシップ屋だったのは4chの人達も知ってると思う。
8/14まではVTuber関係者からのリークをもらってスピーカーをする役割があったから地位を保てていたんだけど
とあるソルトが活動休止して以降何故か鳴神へのリークが途絶えて5chとツイッターの炎上まとめ系VTuberになった。
鳴神裁として活動する前は喧嘩凸という口喧嘩配信をやっており、その活動の一環で女性配信者へ下ネタを言い続けるいわゆるセクハラ凸も行っていた。
このセクハラしていたことを突かれるのが痛いようで、その動画が音声付きで上がった際は表での活動を一旦停止し権利者削除の申請に奔走した。
なおメンタルはクソザコそのもので、一番視聴数が取れた動画の収益化が剥がされた時はキレたし配信中はなるべくコメントを見ないようにする等自己防衛を徹底している。

>>32018218
You can't even use English properly. How do you expect people to take you seriously?

>>32018407
It literally posted and partially translated in last thread.

This is why 2 nukes is not enough.

>>32017981
>rrat
No you are retarded. Now go watch translated clips since it is the only thing you can understand.

>>32018173
There is a big difference between her and the others you mention. They are in a major company and they are actual well known. The problem with Uto is that she’s still a nobody and she is fucking Japanese. EOPs can’t do shit to help or protect her and even if they do there is not enough cause her base is still mostly Hololive EOPs.
If the only thing she is known for right now is this shit, even the EOPs will eventually turn on her and she’ll never be able to do business again.
You can’t even compare her to those in Holo because she doesn’t have the same power or influence.

>both the dogs and Naurkami are on this issue now
Leech got what she deserved. She can go and cry in her newly bought lavish apartment though.

>>32018679
You just know Hero hei and other drama tubers are close behind. This really is going to blow the fuck up to hell.

seriously, allegations against her aren't even that bad. why do things blow up so hard?

>>32018435
Christ, what a fucking shitshow

>>32018549
>>32018479
Yeah sure, keep on believing what some 5ch anti posted without proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzSFwwOWaQ

A new video, with English captions, that did a good job explaining both sides and pointed out they never agreed on the reward, and disapproved of dragging the private matter onto twitter.

>>32018870
I know, right. People who succeed too fast gain a lot of antis.

>>32018870
Because its not about how bad it is but how much they can stir the shit up for drama. The JPs loves nothing more than ripping shit apart like fucking animals. Giving them even a little bit of a string is like giving them a noose.

>>32018956
>>32018978
>>32018870
found the whiteknights.

She may be a leech, but you would still cum inside her asshole, right?

>>32018956
That guys a nobody. Unfortunately no one is going to listen or see him. He tried his best but there’s nothing he can do.

>>32019026
Yes, but only after she retires

Am I the only one who feels like this is being blown up out of porportion?

>>32018978
Feels like old youtube drama. Feeling nostalgic already.

>>32019157
Welcome to vtuber drama in a nutshell. The whole coco thing was also stupidly blown out of proportion.

>>32017411
>involved in drama while collabing with others because your 性格が悪い
>posted information about other vtubers and talked bad about them
>need to jump ship soon because the fake personality is coming apart from all the insider information posted by other people in retaliation
>go for audition, failed because Yagoo can see through your black heart
>OH SHIT WHAT DO WHAT DO
>suddenly, a Chinese company with lots of cash flow came and scouted you
>you accepted, with all the backups from the Chinks' manpower so why not
>hunts around for artists who designed hololive just to get semblance of relation with it
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
>Ame's artist did not know about the situation, but for a price
>cried to the chinks, got the money to pay for the design for a tenshi character
>using Chinese tactics, starting to leech from hololive with similar thumbnails, hololive metatags
>she knew people wouldn't suspect a thing if she just delete them later on (this tactic was used in Coco's chat by the Chink wheelbarrow too)
>somehow the past came to bite her in the form on a disgruntled artist
>quickly paid the artist before it became an issue
>the artist ratted her out anyway
>5ch got the hold of situation and started digging things out
Then comes what is happening right now - Narukami on her tail.

>>32018956
>Those comment
Good thing we didnt break containment

>>32019157
JP/CN antis frustrated their last few major attempts to win a fight have gone wrong have decided to pick on someone that seems like an easy target, sadly they don't understand while us westerners love our drama we love it as entertainment and no one gives a fuck about the actual facts or situation LUL

>>32018978
>JPs
It's common around the entire internet. Also I'm not entirely sure what's being said here but, play stupid games get stupid prizes. I don't have sympathy for Uto.

>>32019351
Agree, I'm just waiting for shit to hit the fan.

>>32019351
>we

>>32019309
It wasn't, in a way. I mean the Chinese response was, but everything afterward was awful. Also it wasn't just Coco and we're still feeling the effects of this garbage today. An entire branch was dissolved etc, It was a big deal, and a serious matter, not because the inciting incident was serious, but because the response from crazy bugmen was.

She got too big too quickly and didn't cover her tracks

This was inevitable

>>32015825
Uto's english is barely passable and ame's Japanese is even worse then her English.Collab never

>>32019026
Her anal walls would cling onto you like a leech

>>32019582
Ame should do her reps regardless. 5 gens of holos to collab with.

>>32019594
God that is hot

>>32019667
She should, but she seems like the kind of person who's like HEY ILL PRACTICE MORE then never actually do it

>>32019522
>An entire branch was dissolved etc
That branch is what created that drama pretty much in the first place. Cover should have kicked them out on the spot. Was there even somebody except for Yogiri that wasn't involved?

>>32019322
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
KEK

>>32019322
>>32017411
>>she did not pay an artist until that said artist pestered her and made it an issue
>Then people dig further into her stuff. I will be leaving her multiple past life dramas out since it is irrelevant
>>fake indie while being backed by Chinese company
Alright. I can call myself an Uto anti because I genuinely abhor her practices, but if she did pay the artist then it's fine. I also don't care about the Chinese backing--do what you need to do so long as you don't try to indoctrinate your viewers--though if it was by those Chinese that she decided to copy, I dunno. Anyway I'm only miffed by piggybacking off the success of others with no sincere business relationship. It's not far apart from chink knockoffs, coincidentally. I can't support it. If she's truly that cutthroat I wouldn't want to support her anyway.

Here's the thing, if she really is as entertaining as her supporters say, she wouldn't *really* have needed the tactics she employed. Of course, standing out as an indie is nearly impossible, but succeeding with most things in entertainment is difficult man

>>32019754
I mean you can't literally prove the other talents had any hand in anything, and I've only ever heard rumors. I know Yogiri was totally fine, but the whole thing was a fucking awful dumpster fire with so many fuckin death threats. Coco also might seem tough but she isn't, and Haachama definitely isn't either. Not tough enough to not worry about literally insane Red ultranationalists.

a retard and a leech collabing? can't wait!

>>32019785
The thing about Chinese influence is that it is like a plague. It will seep into every aspect of the thing it infiltrated. It is not as simple as "cannot say the T-word".

>>32019526
Go away thanos.

>>32018807
I just hope Hero takes the right stance and doesn't just copy Narukami. Does anyone know how to contact him?

>>32019753
Just like me.
>willneverlearnjapanes.mpv.zip.cue

>>32019902
Yeah, I'm somewhat aware of how the chink menace threatens. I'm glad Cover cut ties with China, even if they were absolute faggots to begin with. Or kind of faggots. I still don't know how I feel about the suspension and apology. Maybe it made sense in a "Maybe this will calm them down?" logic. It didn't calm them down and it pissed off actual fans. I still can't really wrap my head around that disaster.

Anyway Uto sucks and I smelled something foul as soon as she started popping up in my reccs and I heard her talking about Ame as her sister.

>>32019864
>you can't literally prove the other talents had any hand in anything
Artia was vocal and proud and the attacks were coordinated from her Discord, no? The others unfollowed Coco and Haachama, Civia had known Coco doxers as mods on YouTube.

Didn't watch Uto for a couple days
Damn, seems like I missed some major drama

everyone in this thread should take their meds

>>32020089
Yeah see that's the thing, I don't know. These are all rumors.

And while unfollowing those two might seem bad it could also be a PR stunt, to save face. I literally don't know, I never got evidence at the time and wasn't too interested in CN anyway

>>32019322
>>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards

>>32020117
This thread is the pharmacy.

>>32019785
> she wouldn't *really* have needed the tactics she employed
The thing is: Ame got her start by years of JP hololivers' efforts; hololive built off Nijisanji's popularity; Sora herself got a boost from Siro during Christmas and by copying Ai Kizuna's design.

Things don't happen in vaccuum. If you want to be noticed, you need to latch onto the popular thing. Like how youtubers make reviews of the most popular games etc. Uto got people to notice her by getting Nabi to draw her and connecting her to hololive fame. That's called playing the game and using the youtube algorithm in youtuber 101, and she got it right.

After that, whether they stay or not, is all due to her talents as an entertainer. And as her fortnite / GOI / apex streams show, she is incredibly talented and determined.

>>32019322
>what if I just unfollow the artist? I would even save this 1500 Amazon gift card!

>>32020349
>Uto got people to notice her by getting Nabi to draw her
That is not the only thing she did, whiteknight.

doesnt blue girl only speak japanese? those types of collabs are garbage. she could barely manage a collab with hachama

>>32020349
>The thing is: Ame got her start by years of JP hololivers' efforts; hololive built off Nijisanji's popularity; Sora herself got a boost from Siro during Christmas and by copying Ai Kizuna's design.
No this isn't "thing is". I literally mentioned exactly this as a caveat: "business relation". Ame auditioned, among many other candidates, and succeeded. And the JPs are proud of her and every other new gen premier BECAUSE their hard work meant that others succeeded more easily. They're literally building things from the ground up and couldn't be happier. For examples just look at Marine, Subaru, and Fubuki talking about ANY new Holos.

You get what you're given, you don't take what you don't have the rights to

>>32019322
Post proof

>>32020349
>you need to latch onto the popular thing
No you don't unless you are a hack like Uto that is. I've seen all the big twitch streamers grew naturally and by their own merits and originality. Uto is equivalent to Athene from twitch.

>1500 yen amazon gift card
you can't make this shit up, that's so out of touch with how things are.

>>32020349
Humanity is a leech to planet earth basically.

>>32020511
>your favourite e-girl got called a leech
>uwwaaaa everyone is a leech in some form!
Pathetic.

>stuck up passive aggressive bitch with hidden intentions
>absolute EOP bait
>unsustainable growth
knew this was a disaster since the start

>>32018173
You whiteknight faggots are only gonna make it worse.

>>32019322
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
>somehow the past came to bite her in the form on a disgruntled artist

>>32020728
Shut up leech.

>>32020458
be a man and search it yourself, anon

>>32019902
Last time Nixon simp for China, 50 years later Chinks took the whole America.

>>32019594
Holy fuck putting her best skill to good use

>>32020156
>These are all rumors.
I mean yeah, if you break it down, everything is a rumor if it doesn't directly involve you. But Artia couldn't shut up about it for three seconds and she was posting about it using her IRL account that is tied to her chink ID. It was obvious to the point when some chinks were telling her to stop.
>And while unfollowing those two might seem bad it could also be a PR stunt, to save face.
And turn non-Chinese audience against you. Great PR stunt. It was retarded thing to do from perspective of their future and income. If they did absolutely nothing, they could've been safe from both sides.

>>32021078
Honestly there was no winning. Who would have known the Chinese are scumfucks? The only winning move was not to play in the first place.

She's a thief. There's nothing else to say, don't try to get her close to Ame

>>32021131
Exactly this. I wouldn't give someone who is involved with the Chinese a single click after the incident.

>>32020156
Are you whiteknights still trying to defend Artia after all that happened??

NEVER TRUST THE LEECH.

>>32017620
this is the greatest clip of all time

>>32021206
It's not whiteknighting. If I don't know something I don't know something. I did try to figure shit out but all I got was a lot of hearsay, no evidence, BUT I did see her clownposting on twitter, having a meltdown.

>>32021206
Yes, her discordfags occasionally pop into hlg to try to rewrite what went down but no one buys it because Artia's done in the west.

>>32020447
>You get what you're given, you don't take what you don't have the rights to
This complaint would hold merit if Cover actually gave Uto anything. They didn't. And if you think eyeballs belong to Cover, they don't. Rest assured that no one was forced to subscribe to Uto if you think she doesn't deserve it.

It's like the pathetic fanboy that destroyed his PS4, because Genshin Impact cloned Zelda. The more I hear about people complaining about Uto, the more I recall that raging fanboy.

>>32019322
Jokes aside fucking up an artist and associate with China is really giving me a bad vibes for her.

>>32021131
Yup, at that point, they would lose either way, but most of them chose the "shoot myself in the head" alternative. My point was, that all of them except for Yogiri were openly against Coco and Haachama and when their plan leaving Hololive with their characters failed, they started harrasing other members as well. And you know what? If Artia didn't have negative IQ, their plan might have worked.

>>32021147
Maybe morally wrong to some but everything she did aren't against the rule. It about protect a rightful person from a cancer that is cancel culture.

>>32021375
The irony?

No, that doesn't hold you retard. That's why I said "take". Utilizing tagging is one thing but she also utilized the brand through calling herself Amelia's sister a LOT. It's probably actually illegal, but I'm not sure

>>32021478
Guess what, this site is all for that shit just like twitter despite it being against the rules.

>>32021497
She literally said it like 2-3 times or something when asked by chat. She never brought up Ame on her own, not even in her debut when talking about Nabi.

>>32021497
>utilized the brand through calling herself Amelia's sister a LOT.
See now you are just exposing how new you are to vtube culture. They call their artist mama / papa. Siblings are when an artist creates many avatars. Uto is absolutely Amelia's sister by definition. Moona also collaborates with her non-hololive sister. This is standard everywhere.

If Amelia doesn't like it, then it's like an estranged pair of sibling. But they are still siblings by any definition.

>>32021626
No, I'm well aware, but using that IP isn't right. You know how Amelia didn't even refer to Uto by name? That's basically what Uto should've done as a legitimate professional. IP is precious, you can't casually fucking say that shit. It's one thing to do that among indies, but this is corporate. It's like saying "Yeah, I'm also a Marvel character!" because you were drawn by a single Marvel artist. Marvel would bury you

>>32021478
>everything she did aren't against the rule

>Don’t post content on YouTube if it fits any of the descriptions noted below.
>Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails: Using the title, thumbnails, description, or tags to trick users into believing the content is something it is not.
from the Terms of Service

>>32021497
>It's probably actually illegal
lmao. Fuck outta these threads and this board.
Actually just fuck off out of this universe.

>>32021626
The poster you're replying in thinking in the corporate sense. Not cultural.

>>32021759
You don't know about contracts and intellectual property/image use? Well, I mean it's obvious from how you type like a 10 year old.

>>32021789
This site would shut down years ago based on your logic.

>>32021789
If Cover were as petty as you suggest, I'd certainly not fucking support them one bit.
Luckily they are not that petty.
Lurk a lot more.

>>32021789
Please learn a thing or two about japan before posting here, EOP.

>>32021826
You don't know about safe harbor either, of course.

4chan complies to safe harbor, by the way. They will pull or delete content by request.

>>32021852
Age a few more years. Of course Cover wouldn't litigate a single person, but they have taken action when their content was at risk before. And they'd have the right for IP infringement too.
>>32021879
I literally live here and copyright/IP matters are literally getting worse, to the point that even comiket's been threatened. Get out of your EOP rock.

Holy fuck you're all delusional simps, actual.

>>32021826
>This site would shut down years ago based on your logic.
Literally look down at the most bottom of this page.

She did EVERYTHING wrong. Here, open up while I spoonfeed you. Your Tenshit is actually a reincarnated cunt who scams artists and openly plagiarizes Hololive.
https://iketog.com/amatukauto_zense/

>>32021925
Okay bro. Lurk more. I don't even watch Uto. I've seen like 5 clips of her total and half a stream. Never got the hype.

>>32021626
Ame basically disowned her, and she was prudent to do so, now that Uto is radioactive because of all the drama surrounding her.

I'd say she airs out her side of the story in the artist fiasco and then promise never to collab with hololive talents again. Her chat mods should delete hololive mentions as if they are Chinese spam. If Ollie or other hololive vtubers come to her stream, the mods should delete the message immediately just not to rile the chat to talk about hololive and come back as her leeching again.

>>32021925
The last time I saw someone saying putting meta tags is a crime it was nijifags harassing Choco, suspicious that the shit stirrers are okay with stuff like this.

>>32021978
Oh no! So anyways I'd watch an English only Marine Uto collab.

>>32021978
We have all seen it and it was nothing worse than Ame. Remember the Gosling war and sex talk?

>>32021998
>I don't even watch Uto
Clearly

>>32022070
shes an honorary holo so its ok

>>32022081
Yes. See the last sentence.
I have no interest in her. Saw some shit in the main thread about people whining DRAMA DRAMA and decided to hop over and see even more retarded shit here.

If she were a company, she could be sued for her copying tactics. And since she's a corporation posing as an individual, it's no wonder she's being sued out of her cover.

She's been silent, but it looks like she's secretly deleted some of her videos.

>>32022070
I said I don't care about metatags. It's the literal mentioning and associating with rights you don't own that's the problem.

Honestly almost everyone messes with the metatags. To stay in youtube but escape vtubing, Mandaloregaming's recommendation for tagging is "put in anything you assume people would want to watch, that you also watch". Like I assume he puts "game dungeon" in his tags. I think it's forbidden under youtube's guildelines, but it's not a big deal honestly.

The issue is still Image use/association without rights

>>32021978
Uto's whiteknights are pissing me off, ima write a pastebin and sent it to Herohei just finish her off in the west.

>>32022070
Do you even know who Hoshitkawa is? I hated her but do you know who she is associated with?

>>32022013
>Making drastic changes over what some anonymous shizo does online
You guys are overstating your importance. All the shitposting is good fun, but get real.

>>32022159
Oh no, she copied the style of some peoples thumbnails, THE HORROR SUE HER SUE HER. (using images neither of them owned, w e w)

>>32022159
Man you are stupid

>>32022077
What sex talk?

>>32022220
She said she was directly associated with Amelia. Even if this was brought up by chat, the right thing to do would be ignore it.

>>32022225
You misquoted, or mistyped "you are" as "I am".

>>32022208
I think you're a retarded newfag. Do YOU now who she is and the antis she's had since her debut?

>>32022277
>She said she was directly associated with Amelia.
No, she did not.

>>32022277
Where did she say she was associated with Amelia?

>>32022298
What does her being a bitch have to do with abusing tags that everyone abuses?
Get an argument, retard.

>>32022325
I heard her say it, I don't really care what your simp ass thinks happened. I'm hearing the videos are gone too (covering her tracks), so whatever. You've already fallen to the whore, who cares

>>32022372
I don't care for her. But stop spreading lies, you dumb cunt.
Her doing something that happens industry-wide is not breaking the law, outside of your retard-world that exists entirely in your head.

If you respect the hololive, ignore the uto

Ame auditioned for hololive and got where she is today. uto did not.

>>32022353
I can't find it anymore but have a pretty decent memory. If I recall correctly it was several times in more than one video that she said "Yes that's right, Ame-chan's my sister" I think she might've said she wanted to collab. "Yeah we have the same Mama" etc
I'm not a fan of Amelia, I just found her through the algorithm and was really baffled by what she was saying. Swore off her pretty much immediately. Easy to recognize greed and underhandedness.

>>32022406
>I don't care for her. But stop spreading lies, you dumb cunt.
>Her doing something that happens industry-wide is not breaking the law, outside of your retard-world that exists entirely in your head.
Simp harder.

>>32022440
Okay retard. Come back when you have an argument.

>>32022440
>"Yes that's right, Ame-chan's my sister" I think she might've said she wanted to collab. "Yeah we have the same Mama"
lol

>>32022505
"But muh culture"? IP is IP, it's not public domain.

>>32022497
I've already said it but I don't really care what a simp thinks dude, but here's a clip at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5eazgIC2lU
I'm too nice

>>32022440
I need you to explain how another vtuber having the same illustrator as you means you are associated with them

>>32022625
It wouldn't if you didn't mention that you were directly related several times. I see this is officially "going around in circles" mode though so, enjoy your bitch as she burns to the ground

>literally a Chinese knock off
Can't make this shit up.

>>32022580
It's not illegal to mention things. Even if you are another corporation.
Learn some basic IP laws please.
The only time it is illegal is if you are making direct comparisons or shitting on a competitor for profit, which is why TV and later internet ads were almost globally banned from doing it. (see Sega does what Nintendon't, etc.)
Come back with a valid argument, retard.

>>32022713
>The only time it is illegal is if you are making direct comparisons
She *did* you fucking numbskull.

Shoddy Chinese knockoffs

>>32022755
Yeah I'm sure she was going "Oh yeah Ame does this, but did you know I can do THIS!".
Fucking retard kek

I'm not really seeing anything substantial that she did something bad? This feels a bit like the witchhunt that drove Aloe out of Hololive "she said some bad stuff about people in the industry".

>>32022805
Yes, and it will happen again because cancel culture is cancer.

>>32022805
it seems whiteknights are literally blind. Or they just don't bother scrolling up

>>32022884
Come back with an argument bro.
Not "lol she said she was Amelias sister, dat's illegal you know!", an actual argument.

>>32022805
She violated confidentiality, there was a contractual problem. But she didn't slander others, she didn't steal, not like uto.

>>32022805
>still trying to compare her to Aloe
They are not comparable. Aloe only talked bad about niji in 1 stream, while Uto has her drama even before the redesign, this artist thing is just a new addition of evidence of how shitty she is as a person.

>>32022884
>Listen and believe
Lol

>>32022951
Shitty person does not matter. Anime girl is anime girl

>>32022664
You do know that vtubers calling other vtubers with the same artist their siblings is a common thing right?

>>32022948
>She violated confidentiality, there was a contractual problem.
Hahaha. Always funny to see people that cannot understand anything outside of clips and [EN] in chat trying to grasp what has actually happened.

>>32023002
He does not. He's that new.

Now, Uto was accused of non-payment of fees by more than just the illustrator. It seems he was a habitual offender

>>32023010
The important thing is that Aloe hasn't hurt anyone, Brother.

>>32022884
I don't watch her, I just saw people slamming her in the Holo thread and came to see what it was. Looks like a lot of conjecture and a payment dispute that got resolved. Maybe she is shady but I was expecting something more substantial.

>>32023062
Show proof. Gotta kill the rrats, man.

>>32023002
>>32023026
I mentioned it you braindead faggots. Never try to start a business, you'll crash and burn

I just wanted to watch my vtubers man.

>>32023100
People are just shitposting becauss no stream.

>>32023105
Can you give me an example then of a vtuber getting into trouble because of something their "sibling" did

>>32023002
No anon the avatars are propietery and should be classified as such.

Congrats, you want her to get attention, and she got it. I hope she gets featured in Hero Hei next

>>32023002
Not him but you are trying to justify the relation multiple times. It is not just about sisters. People who has 2 braincells know what's up when she asked Nabi to redesign her, posted that picture of her with Ame, using thumbnails similar to the holos, play similar games, using similar routine and using the metatags. The worst is that she did all of it and pretended it never happened.

>>32023105
"directly related" is not a thing that happened though, that is a blatant lie.
She said she was Amelias sister, same mama. Almost literally word for word.
That's not even close to direct, unless you have brain problems.
The level of retarded you are going in to is like something casually mentioning how they love McDonalds for a few minutes in a stream, a thing that is not even remotely illegal.
>>32023176
Lurk more.

>>32023124
Watch archive. Or other vtubers.

>>32023002
Only if they want to. You don't see Subaru and touya interacting with each other at all despite Subaru being a known Niji collaber

>>32023193
That's scummy, and it happens all the time across the industry, even outside of vtubers. Still not illegal. Not in any country, not even America.

>>32023219
Still doesn't stop either of them mentioning each other.

>>32019322
>>32023190
>she paid the artist with Amazon gift card
>the artist paid her with exposure
Oh how the table has turned. Maybe this is just her ploy of getting more subs since she is getting stale and her subs plateau. However she has no idea that people actually dig up her connection with Chinese company that actually hurt her.

Don't know about you guys but this cute tenshi is irresistible for me. I've fallen for her and I'm even considering travelling to Japan for a while after covid just to be closer to her.

It's possible that UTO has already been sued by the cover?

People who support women who harm the hololive are anti-hololive. Do you understand?

>>32022943
>her past persona created a whole lot of bad-blood and drama for her group, which had her somewhat bullied by the leader, and to which she responded by throwing shit at the fan by badmouthing everybody and doxxing them
>had her image so burned that had to make a new identity, while trying to delete all her old videos
>rumor that she tried to audition for hololive but failed
>rumor that a chinese company is backing her after that fail. Or from another country. Or she's just loaded with cash. She sure has a lot of "friends" and "sisters" managing her stuff
>abuse of the holos metatags. And i dont mean just the name hololive or amelia, I mean the names of every jp and en talents one every single one of her videos. Was called out and silently deleted those only after she was sure the algorithim had made its magic.
>keeps saying she's amelia's sister, trying to get connection with other holoes by mentioning them and visitting their chats. Dumb ids already fell for it.
>keeps asking artists to make her copies of holos thumbnails
>commisioned work from an artist at the promise of pay, ghosted him after the deliver. Only paid because she got afraid of repercusion, while still talking shit to him in private. And apparently it was 1500yen=15$
there's probably more I'm missing, go read the past threads if you want more

>>32023324
5ch anon post more about her chink connections.

>>32022298
>Do YOU now who she is and the antis she's had since her debut?
Elaborate? I know about Makoto drama and stamps, but that seems very unsubstantial.

What does Uto's piss taste like?

>>32023280
https://youtu.be/5P80lou5GKQ

Oozora family doesn't involve her "brother", how odd

>>32023337
Still none of that is illegal. Yes, even the lack f payment, unless a direct contract was involved which would be contract breaking and a legal matter.
Very scummy, however, absolutely.

>>32023433
>>>32022943
oh I think nobody here is saying that it is illegal, except for that one schizo

>>32023404
That has nothing to do with it.
The issue is legality of mentioning others without their permission. It is 100% legal to do so. Even in a commercial context, unless you are outright shitting on a product or service they have, or making comparisons that favour yours.
Unless you get a restraining order, which is very hard to do unless outright harassment is occurring.

>>32023433
>unless a direct contract was involved
That's not how the law works. Any verbal agreement is a contract.

>>32023324
But I am anti hololive. They are immune to all forms of critisism as they shut down anti channels and they remove competition that uses the same method they used to gain reputation.

5ch isn't really interested in Uto. There are 30 vtubers in Japan on hololive alone, imagine if EN had 5 times as many as they do now

>>32023404
Sorry Im not sure what youre trying to say. Why should they have to?

>>32023502
B-but the 5ch raids

>>32015825
When she gits gud
she's getting there

>>32019322
Am I the first one to sense the yabee from her just from the tweet with her image side by side with Ame's?

>>32023337
Is this another 4ch narrative or is this legit. Seeing how she got featured in NRKM today I believe the latter

>>32023483
Not all countries agree to this. And trying to prove non-written agreements is exceedingly fucking difficult, even if it has Tweets or Discord or whatever else involved. (one major reason courthouses exist in the first place is issues like this)
Japan is one that does, but it is even harder proving such intent in Japan than many countries. Foul play often does win in Japan, if you know much of their horrific legal processes.

About uto, if you can speak Japanese, you will know that she is calling the illustrator a beggar. Those negative aspects are not visible in the English-speaking world. The language barrier is a big one.

>>32023625
Watch the video

>>32023707
Why do you think that the only people defending her here are EOPs who didn't even know when the artist get paid?

>>32023707
Thing is, they could well be too. We simply don't know. Scummy artists have been an issue in this industry before, as well as modellers. (see that cunt Digi)

>>32023707
>>32023822
He is a beggar. I see nothing wrong with this.

I fucking hate most of you for making this a bigger issue than it should be.

please feed us more spicy narratives uto antis, this is too good. apparently she's the worst criminal of japan now.

>>32023289
this is some insane cope.

>>32023937
She should be for leeching off mai perfecto waifu amelia.

>>32023921
The artist incident is not a big issue. You missed that people dig up a lot of dirt including her past life drama?

To whom it may concern
Been looking for ideas to design Arimasen, since I'm almost done with Aoi

For starters idk whether to draw an ikemen or just Uto posing as one, also, what items would you add to the character (lewd ones for later, this one is for design only anons)
By the time I'm done I expect most shit happening rn to be done and I don't care about 1500 yen btw, 10Q

>>32023979
The only thing I absolutely understood during her past life was that U was a fucking asshole.

>>32024040
I always picture Arimasen-san with a ponytail. Tsurime eyes. And for some reason, with a tuxedo.

>>32023937

We now march for the dark gods.

>>32023486
Schizo its been mentioned before, Choco was the only one who used niji tags and she was forced to make a public apology by the nijniggers.

Have you ever busted a nut to Tenshi?

>>32024040
I'd say her posing as one makes more sense since it's a split personality. But if you already designed Aoi as a loli I guess you should go with an actual ikemen. Also, based.

>>32024147
Yes, and i want a refund.

>>32023696
The issue is that we are talking about $15 in gift cards, it wouldn't help if it was written at all. But the contract stands and the party that didn't pay broke it.

>>32024147
Yes, better than tone deaf lesbian.

>comission a piece of art
>start getting popular and getting a lot of free art
>the duck why do I pay for art when I get free art now
>better unfollow and ghost the dude and pretend to be dumb I'm not paying for this lol
>whaaaat you are leaking this noooooo here's your money you beggar!

I'm just joking by the way I like Uto

>>32024147
Yes, and I know feel dirty after finding out I jacked it to a sociopath.

>>32024040
I always imagined Arimasen as blue-haired Finn, from Danmachi. Saying "boku", and being hyper-competent.

>>32024200
But she DID pay though?

>>32024200
But proving it in court requires proving that Uto even took it seriously, which she clearly did not if she intended to pay in fucking Amazon gift cards.
She'd win by default on that sheer absurdity alone.
Yes, this is how Japan works. This is not a new thing, Japan is terrible.

>>32024186
>>32024237
Surely her personality doesn't matter unless part of the appeal to you was fapping to a pure innocent angel.

>refused to pay an artist and ghost him
>artist get public with it after getting paid (pestering her) because fuck her
>people started digging shits up about her past life drama and her relationship with Chinese company
Should've pay it once the art arrived.

>>32024147
every day, to dispel any doubts about my tenshi

>>32024335
Where was this about the chinese company? I'm not seeing any of that info on 5ch or anywhere.

>>32016388
Your mistake is thinking her EOP audience cares or even understands.

>>32024147
No.

>>32024278
Based tenshi had no intention of ever paying the guy to begin with and knew she would get popular with lots of supporters. All according to plan, and I still like her.

>>32024375
Sure thing EOP. It is like no one can read the Japs in last thread amirite?

>>32023219
>>32023404
She has a Niji brother?

>>32024375
Some schizo larping as a JOP who used deepl to post some bogus shit about her past life being under a chink company.

>>32024261
Yes, two months late after trying to cut the communication?
>>32024278
Great, so she would win in a court, but would still look like a massive asshole for refusing to pay pennies. If I'm really conservative and say she makes $200 a day, why wouldn't she just throw one days of work worth of income and make right any other thing she might or might not have commissioned in the past?

holy shit what a shitfest

Shitposting aside ghosting someone you comissioned art from and then acting like they are bothering you when they try to get their money is kinda bad

>>32023219
Touya isn't her brother retard

>>32024453
God knows. It's all a big mess. I had a minimal interest in her to begin with, so it is no big loss if she is a turbocunt to people behind closed doors.

>>32024040
UUUOOOHHHH I MUST SIMP

>>32024469
I do it all the time.

She will continue to get subscribers and more views, and all you'll be able to do is complain here while doing nothing because you can't speak japanese.

>>32024453
With no agreed upon deadline?
She still paid, no debts left. Done.
Plus, most of the allegations are based on his testimony ALONE.
That kind of shit wouldn't pass in court. It's like solely basing your evidence on one side while ignoring the other. Biased as fuck.

>>32023219
You mean Kenmochi? You made me look it up because I was pretty damn sure his art didn't look like Shigure Ui's, and I was right.

>>32024517
Or she gefs doxxed and people stalk her irl and she gets "persuaded" to stop streaming.

>>32024517
That is a strong projection, EOP. Why don't you watch Narukami's take on it? It even has JP subs.

>>32024568
He probably see femTouya art by Ui and thought they're related because of that.

>>32024389
> no intention of ever paying the guy
This would be hilarious if true. But more like she had a thousand more simps to deal with. More like she forgot the dude existed, and that can be aggravating to a narcissist. Now he is just enjoying the exposure from the drama because of a late payment.

>>32024587
Not gonna happen. She is shameless enough to keep on streaming even if people found out that she eat a baby or something.

>>32024596
Shut up narukami, stop shilling your video

>>32024637
>More like she forgot the dude existed
he claims he kept constantly reminding her though, and getting ghosted

>>32024695
Can you imagine how filled her inbox is the moment her popularity exploded?
And mind you, he "claimed" that is the case. The truth could possibly be something else.

>>32024563
Who fucking cares about court you retard. She literally drew a fucking target on her face because ignored somebody she commissioned and decided to pay them after they brought it up publicly. However shitty or not true it is from artists side, she would either not pay at all if all of this is made up, or paid like a normal person instead of unfollowing them on Twitter and pretending to not hear anything.

>>32024640
Maybe the yakuza gets involved. I dunno.

>>32023433
>>32023696
>>32024278
>it's ok to lie and mislead people if it's legal
The state of utoshills.

Imagine going to a court over commisioned anime art.

>>32024829
It is okay to lie. Moral is subjective.

>>32024829
There is a schizo saying it is illegal. Scroll up and read, babyface.

>>32024829
I'm not defending her though. She's a cunt if she did do it.
I'm attacking the horrific state of Japanese law more than anything.

>>32024829
Vtubers lie all the time you moron.
Why the fuck are you losing your shit on this particular one?

>>32024779
You're assuming that what he says is the truth, the only truth, and nothing but the truth. All it takes is for the other party to show their evidence, and boom! The entire thing takes an entirely different turn.

>>32024443
He literally just copy paste thing word for word from 5ch last thread.

>>32023822
あなたが日本語を理解する人でよかった。つまりutoは料金未払いでイラストレーターをブロックした上、彼の要求に対して「金が欲しいならくれてやる」と失礼な発言をするような女だという事です。これは動かす事の出来ない事実です

>>32025087
>All it takes is for the other party to show their evidence, and boom! The entire thing takes an entirely different turn.
just shows how insecure utofags are about her

>>32025147
My reps paid off

>>32025087
The only evidence she showed us is that she called him a beggar and unfollowed him. Now there is no doubt that Uto isn't lying! It's not like she threw tantrums and lied in the past or anything.

>>32025181
Pretty much anyone with an oshi would.
Amplified the fact that she's an indie. She's literally alone on this (unless you still believe on the chink company bull).

>>32025254
She literally had a team bejind her and they are part of a Chinese company

>>32025147
I am contacting all US senators and mainstream news outlets to alert them of this travesty. I am absolutely outraged.

>>32025242
And who's to say that the no-name artist is noy lying as well? Or muddying the actual truth? Anyone who uses the "for the sake of my fellow artists" is untrustworthy by default.

Utoshills literally have no moral compass. I guess it's true that the viewers reflect the streamer.

As for slander and non-payment of fees, it is more a matter of courtesy than a legal issue. All these acts of hers are true and the evidence is available in the Japanese speaking world. Her position is pretty bad right now.

As for imitation, I don't know what would happen if COVER sued legally. Japan is a country with strangely strict rights regarding streaming. I'm assuming her silently deleting the video has something to do with this.

>>32025320
I mean if this >>32024890 is anything to go by, you are right.

>>32025320
>implying anyone who browses this cesspit of a site has any moral compass

>>32025302
面白いですね。5chであなたのジョークを広めたいです。LMAO

>>32025318
If you don't address their allegations at all and just call them names and pay them, I'm to believe that whatever they said is true.

>still on that artist spins
We are already on her past life drama before she ran away and the redesign with Chinese company.

>>32025320
Welcome. Tea or coffee?

>>32017620
>i dont want anything to do with her
yikes bro

>>32025320
>Moral
>Current year

>>32025474
>何とか[です]何とか[です]何とか[です]
Truly a JOP

>>32015825
never
ame hates collabs

>>32018978
Who are you quoting

>>32019026
well, hate fuck is a thing, so yeah

>>32025690
She wouldnt say the same after collabing with my huge D

>>32019322
Anyone has the full story of the drama? I can't read Jap.

>>32025320
Nah, the antis have had 12 hours to convince us there is something to be outraged by. And the evidence we have seen paints an incident which is tame compared to that of Aloe or Coco, or other vtuber scandals (nijisanji etc.). We are veteran enough by now with antis' tactics.

>>32025745
This one has English captions. It is more neutral than the other ones which are accusatory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzSFwwOWaQ

Have the nip schizos shitting up the thread finally gone to sleep?

>>32025805
Its midnight in 2 nukes land.

>>32025792
I am not talking about the artist shit which has been talked to death here. I am talking about the drama and doxxing during her past life, where some pictures were posted with irl photo but stories are mostly in JP which I can't understand.

>>32015825
Never. She's too suspicious

angel baby

>>32025792
>we

>>32025949
>>/jp/thread/S31820757#p31911245

>>32025792
>And the evidence we have seen paints an incident which is tame compared to that of Aloe or Coco
except aloe and coco did nothing wrong, this girl did multiple things wrong

>>32026012
Wuz

>>32026109
KAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Do we know what actually happened with her and her old team? I know about her supposedly hiring an editor for her video when the team didn't provide her one. And how there are rumors she doxed her team in retaliation but then you have people saying her team doxed her instead. Most of the info surrounding that incident seems to be in Japanese youtube videos and as an EOP that is not illuminating at all. I just want to know. Is she secretly a jerk? Is she actually a good person who doesn't deserve all the hate she's getting? Should I be cheering for her success despite all the hardships? Or is she somewhere in between?

>>32026048
That is like your opinion bro I respect that opinion but it's an opinion.

>>32025792
>obsolete art
kek
>basically throwed a fuss AFTER getting paid, on a "reward" that he didn't even specify
What an asshole.

>>32026260
because she called him a beggar after paying him. no shit he's going to retaliate.

>>32026190
You've just basically summed up every JPVtuber drama ever.

>>32026048
>aloe
>nothing wrong
rumao

>>32026341
if you think she did anything wrong you're unironically a terrible person

Aloe did much worse than Uto. That's a fact.

>>32026386
The delta circlejerk and delusion thread is over that way.

I'm a Japanese speaker, so I have a pretty good grasp of her background.

People on 5ch don't understand much about her when she was a V called Aizawa. The group she belonged to, the "Bourbon Clan", is a rather low-rated group of delinquents, so to speak. One of the two members who were expelled from the group for causing problems was Aizawa=uto.

What the group leader saw as a problem was that she had hired an editor without the organization's permission. Personal dealings are a hotbed of trouble (as is this case), and this decision was the right one. However, Aizawa=uto assumed that she was disliked. He thought that his colleague and the leader, with whom he did not get along, were in on it, and he slandered them. And she disclosed her age, which her colleagues had kept secret.

So there are many people who resent her. But not on 5ch. The "bourbon clan" is mainly people who are active on twitter, and twitter also exposed that uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys, LOL.

>>32026301
But the core of his complaint is that she's late on paying for the commission (which she eventually paid.) Anything else is secondary.
It REALLY doesn't help that he posted it on social median, when these type of things should have been discussed privately in the first place.

>>32026406
>>32026436
what did she do wrong, retard

>>32026386
Triangle wouldn't have existed in the first place if she did nothing wrong at all, fool.

>>32026519
what did she do that was wrong morally

>>32026465
secondary doesn't mean "it doesn't exist." how she chose to deal with the primary issue compounds on to it. is this so hard to understand?

>>32026447
>and twitter also exposed that uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys, LOL.

Get a life, seriously

>>32026447
How old is she then?

I want to know something more important than this drama. Does she have any lewds yet? I want to masturbate.

>>32026447
>uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys
With me.

>>32026674
Grand total of 1.

Support our Chinese queen Amatsuka Uto !!!

>>32026651
She's 20 years old. The Bourbon Clan is where the leader of the Yakuza-like group collects young girls.

>>32025805
it is holiday following by Sunday, holy shit

>>32017411
What is this fucking bullshit that the western fans don't know about it or that they mistook her for a holo? We are not fucking retards bugmen like the sliteyes over there, we know very well who she is and how the events go down. That's why I still support her, while the braindead chinks don't even know she already paid. Fuck this shit. More nukes please.

>>32026465
Not the person you're responding to but you're being a bit biased though.
If she could have just paid him and apologize for it being late, none of this would have happened. But nope, she acted unprofessionally and called her fan a beggar. So petty. Lose-lose situation for the both of them.

>>32026519
All Aloe did was sexpost and tell the truth about Niji / Chitose. Not like that matters to you delusional fuck. Uto's not gonna be defended from all the accusations no matter how hard you try to conflate the two, she has too many skeletons in her closet for most eop's and seaniggers to ignore.

>>32026877
Easy there, tiger.
Pretty sure anyone who has minimal understanding with the English language can mistake overseas fans as mistaking her as a holo due to all the "Ame's sister", "Blue Ame", "should have been in Hololive" comments circulating around here, twitter and YT.

>>32026969
>If she could have just paid him and apologize for it being late,
She did.
And let me remind you the artist was a fan who made her fanart for free because he liked her so much.

>>32026674
Gimme 1500 yen gift cards and I will make them

>>32026447
And why should we care? The same rrats have been repeated here ad nauseum since Uto started gaining traction. JOP’s are just a bunch of sensitive cucks who are blowing this nothingburger out of proportion.

>>32027020
I'm not conflating the two though.
All I'm saying is, if one didn't do anything wrong, then none of the drama would have happened,
It happened to Aloe, and currently, one is happening to Uto. So they both did something wrong, and that is undeniable. HOW wrong they are, well, it really depends on who you speak to.

>>32027020
>All Aloe did
Already an invalid opinion. Sorry anon.

>>32026877
>chink
They are not her antis. In fact they support her in the form of company.

>>32026877
>What is this fucking bullshit that the western fans don't know about it or that they mistook her for a holo?
Hana didn't market herself as a Holo but even her viewers mistook her for one of them. Please, stop trolling bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkzaM50YzY

>>32026877
From the Japanese point of view, Uto is a boring imitation product. It just looks like a stupid foreigner being fooled.

>>32026969
I know they're both at fault, anon.
It's just that, spreading this to social media when this was originally discussed behind closed doors is honestly an asshole move.

>>32027046
>someone who says she should be in hololive must think that she's already in hololive
What is this gook logic?

>>32027080
Why do you always conveniently left off the 'calling him a beggar part' though.

>>32027213
Some meanings are lost during translation all the time, anon. That's just how it is.

>>32027216
Why do you always conveniently left out that she already paid and apologized before the incident even went public and that he made it public solely out of spite?

>>32027160
帰れ

>>32027113
Even JOP, which supports Aloe, has abandoned Uto. Well I just wanted to get the facts straight and end the bullshit. Don't bother with the Japanese holo-lives.

>>32027216
>artfag begs to get paid
>Uto rightfully calls him a beggar
Unironically based

>>32027263
日本語でありがとう。This is a point of fact, not a statement that the Japanese perspective is correct.

>>32026041
What a shit show. Getting behind someone's back seems to be her forte. Also she is no stranger to exposing private conversation. Now I feel less bad about the artist revealing their conversation. She really can't work well with other people, no wonder she failed her audition.

DON'T CARE
STILL SUBSCRIBED
MEMBERED
SUPERCHATTED
UTO LOVE

it was commissioned art, utofags

>>32027239
>tfw you have no idea what is being paid and when was it paid until people pointed it out to you few thread ago
Not able to understand Japanese sure is suffering huh.

>>32027216
Taking a butthurt man word for word when he's obviously making her look bad ain't exactly my cup of tea. ESPECIALLY when she fulfilled her end of the bargain.

>>32027312
Prove it.

>>32026877
>we
I am starting to see the pattern here, whiteknight.

>>32027324
Which she paid in the end, anti.

>>32027273
かしこまりました

>>32026877
>liking a lying bitch of a Chinese knock off
ngmi

>>32027330
Doing Anki everyday and still shit at moonrunes here

>>32027299
When will you braindead seaniggers realize that because of the time of events she could only possible audition to holoEN? Which doesn't make any sense.

>>32027389
She is doing it behind their back. Again, that is her forte.

>>32027419
>she auditioned to hololive without cover knowing about it
That is some Nenechi level of smart.

>>32027330
>rumao the EOP’s can’t understand Japanese
>let me communicate with them using guguru sensei
>oh no! how come the gaijin don’t hate UTO like we do????!!!!! what went wrong?????
Do JOP anti’s really?

>>32027372
two months later after realizing her ghosting wouldn't work anymore, since she got too big

Maybe the 4chan Bros don't know that Aloe is being praised on 5ch?　Opinions in Japan are not monolithic. It's funny how they treat you like you're a bad friend who came to take away their favorite toy.

>>32027336
I agree that the artist is up to no good but who cares? He's a nobody.
Uto is different though. She should have taken the higher stand in this situation. Although it's unfair, but that's the standard that is expected of a popular public figure.

>>32027484
It was still them who cancelled her.

There is no evidence that Uto failed the Hololive audition, but I doubt she would have made it. Cover has never hired anyone from the "Bourbon Clan. They're a bunch of real whores.

>>32027456
Which she PAID in the end, which the artist proceeded to make it public AFTER the payment, in which he didn't even specify what kind of payment.

>>32027484
>>32027507
The duality of man, basically.

>>32027447
She is auditioning behind her teammates' back you doofus. She doesn't even care about the group and just hire editor for herself alone. Selfish dishonest bitch who sold herself to China.

>>32027484
fuck the nips then

>>32027536
The audition for gen 5 happened in 2019. She was still 17, in highschool, way before vabon at that time. What do you think she applied to, gen 6?

>>32027507
>all of 5ch are nijiniggers
nop

>>32027536
I mean it is pretty much certain that Uto has a messy sex live from all the doxx and counterdoxx.

It's funny how all these "drama" bullshit can be explain with just a single word: miscommunication.

>>32027570
I'd tell you to take your meds but I doubt they would help.

>>32027506
But the transaction happened before her reincarnation. She was a nobody as well back then. It only blew up because the artist conveniently tried to bug her with it when her popularity exploded.

>>32027537
>Which she PAID
And implied that he's a beggar afterwards.
You left out a distinction there.

>>32027578
>She was still 17
It was 18?

>>32027506
She hasn't shown her side of the story yet and is getting dogpiled on. Basically cancel culture at work.

>>32027537
Oh no, she fucked up and got called out for it. What a tragedy

>>32027600
>having sex is a messy sex life
Japanese otaku fears the sex. When confronted with someone who managed to have sex in their lives they can only mutter "muh tiny dick".

>>32027507
It may be correct to say that there were two sides to the story. The situation with Aloe is quite complicated; even cover has not revealed the reason for Aloe's dismissal

Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building after she was fired from Hololive. It seems that she was mentally unstable to begin with.

>>32027628
True or not, to which he proceeded to make a private convo public. Pure scum.

>>32027627
True. But that's the price of fame. It's not a problem until it becomes one. She became too successful too fast. It's not fair but that's how it goes in reality.

>>32027630
Depending on when the audition actually was. She has her birthday in October.

>>32027570
Joker would be proud of you schizofag

>>32027679
>Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building
Where did you hear this?

>>32027679
>after she was fired
I would give you a tired Fubuki image but I forgot where I put it.

>>32027686
Whether he's a scum or not doesn't matter. Nobody care's about him.
We only focus on Uto here.

>>32027686
>proceeded to make a private convo public. Pure scum
Just like a certain someone named Aizawa, kek.

>>32027732
don't worry, she's ok now

>>32027732
From the person himself. Rest assured, she's back alive.

>>32027784
glad to hear anon

>>32027679
>Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building after she was fired from Hololive. It seems that she was mentally unstable to begin with.
I wonder why I even bother with this thread sometimes.

>>32027808
The Utoshills tried to drag Aloe into this conversation to muddy the water but can't even get the story right.

stop dragging aloe into this.

>>32027796
Am I being trolled or are you serious? How did this news appear out of nowhere?

>>32027679
you need help anon

>>32027646
We could blame the system all we want, but it is what it is. If she really has a company behind her then they better work fast.

>>32027899
dumb frogposter

>>32027771
Aizawa didn't do that though? She publicly apologized after she was fired from the group because she wanted to do her job better.

If you want to know more about Aloe, you can see her diary from back in the day through her roommate's paid membership

>>32027807
She had to get a horn reconstruction surgery.

>>32027771
Are we honestly just gonna ignore the fact that all of it was Urara's fault, while Aizawa and Naeji were actually victims?

>>32028032
I don't think Aloefags in the Uto thread can read much of it anyway but thanks for the sauce.

>>32027943
very sad to see you like this anon

>>32028144
But also Niggerji was outed by her moderator that she was an abusive cunt.

>>32028144
If he/she is not famous then yes, we can conveniently forget about them.

>>32028144
>>32028003
More like Urara can't get them an editor, Aizawa got one behind all of them's back. Get called out, quit and apologize with a dox attached to it. Naeji was fucking mad about it and dissed her. Aizawa got mad in return and getting it out in the sun with all the line/discord shit, saying she did not get admin permission for some stuff. Urara threatened to reveal Aizawa's boyfriend (which he never did) if she keeps doing that and then finally everything stopped.
In short, a fucking shit show. Good luck to the Chinese company working with her.

It's true that uto tricked urara into hiring an editor, and it's also true that he slandered his colleagues, so I can't fully defend uto on the "bourbon class" one

>>32028391
> It's true
Proofs?

>>32028321
Conveniently leaving out that the team had an editor but the guy didn't want to give one to Ai because "it's too difficult", also she doxxed herself only, but it was known that her age is the same as N's.