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If you have a question about a specific product, please LINK it so people know what you're talking about.

New Onahole guide:
https://controlc.com/08ffe926

New doll guide:
https://controlc.com/e8000130
Pastebin nuked old guides so we have new links(keeping pastebin links here below just in case)
The ona guide: http://pastebin.com/hwhGL66a (embed) (embed) (embed)
The doll guide: https://pastebin.com/rrUa6jKF (embed) (embed) (embed)

- - - Notice for Aussies: Only J-list doesn't ship to Australia anymore (it's their own fault for not discretely packaging onas). All the other retailers still do ship to Australia - - -

>Please read the guide, use the archive, don't shitpost. Follow global and local rules. Don't reply, report and ignore instead.

>Length, girth, budget and geographical location are extremely important in determining your next best course of action!

old thread: >>31677601

>> No.31859954

>>31855432
Where can I find this?

>> No.31859971

>>31859458
>pic
now that i think about it did anyone make that into a real thing?

>> No.31861190
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Considering taking the big boy step into hip territory. Looking at the Puni Ana Kiwami and wanted to know other's recommendations for hips as well as personal experience with them. The reason Kiwami looks so good is because i can grab it and pull it down onto myself with the idea of a soft squishy butt pressing against me; the weight is simply an added bonus as I prefer all my toys to have extra heft to them. How soft compared to other popular toys is it? Anyone with personal experience on tightness and texture? Is the booty hole any good? Lastly, how durable is she? I've used Rich Soft and Very Soft toys from Tomax and noticed tearing from being too rough after ~6-9 months of constant use but I obviously want the hip to last a long time.

tldr: Hip toys, thoughts and opinions?

>> No.31861320

wanna drop some big boy bucks on something good for edging!

>> No.31861609

does somebody have that pogchamp onahole picture?

>> No.31861735
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31861735

>>31861609
Gootecks has a hard life...

>> No.31862485

Is shipping from Japan to the US back to normal now? A keyboard I ordered back in April via EMS just arrived here, but looking at https://www.post.japanpost.jp/int/information/overview_en.html suggests that shipping isn't back to normal yet.

>> No.31863376

How picky is the US about box art? I'd assume there would be some rules but there's some onaholes on amazon with actual lolis clearly displayed.

>> No.31863818

It's fine to use body wash/shower gel for when I wanna fuck my onahole in the shower right?

>> No.31864216

>>31861190
I'm honestly still trying to understand the different softness levels but I will say that the vagina is definitely harder and more textured than the anus so even if you don't like the one all that much there's a good chance you'll enjoy the other one. The vagina has a lot more variance and texture to offer than the anus, especially because there's a little uterus there that can be felt with the right position. However I actually prefer the anus much more because it's much easier to feel the squishiness that way. Honestly if it just had the anus I would be happy with my purchase.
Durability wise I haven't seen any wear on the holes at all, but then again I've only had it for a few weeks. However, the exterior of the toy did get damaged on the upper right cheek. I don't know if it's the toy being fragile or user error on my part, maybe I was too rough with it when I dragged it into the shower with me or something. I don't think anyone else has encountered the issue (if you check the archives, note that I'm the same guy as >>/jp/thread/S30999724#p31058264)) though and it hasn't gotten any worse since I first complained about it.

>> No.31864340

>>31863818
That sounds like a terrible idea. If you do end up doing it, report back so others can learn from your experience.

>> No.31864461
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>>31863818
no, you'll get soap up your urethra
>source: was horny teen, jacked off with shampoo a couple of times

>> No.31864716

>>31861190
Seconding this post. I'm too much of a poorfag for a doll and I wouldn't care much for the upper body anyways and would mainly use a doll for a lifesized ass/hip.
Is the Kiwami comparable to the hip of a doll, as in is there some kind of bone/sturdiness to it rather than being a pile of squishy tpe? Are there any positions it doesn't work well in? Also are the cheeks squishy enough for buttjobs?

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>>31864461
Depends on what you use, my peepee hole is fine when I do it occasionally with this stuff
No idea if it would damage an ona though

>> No.31866479

>>31864716
Yeah it's got a hip bone in there so it's pretty sturdy.
Overall the only thing it doesn't really do well is doggy style with the vagina, but it can do it with the anus just fine.
It doesn't have enough material or the right shape to do butt jobs no. If you want big booty that might be able to pull that off, look into the Akari Buttocks. That's the biggest one that I've heard of. Might be some good Western options there for that as well although anything western tends to skimp on the actual holes from what I've read.

>> No.31867059

>>31863376
Loli is only illegal in Kentucky, Florida, and Tennessee.

>>31863818
>>31865738
I wouldn't use any sort of body soap/shampoo on an ona. Still to soft hand soap.

>> No.31867435

>>31859458
Are TOMAX's rich soft variants good if you're uncut?

>> No.31867484

>>31866479
>the only thing it doesn't really do well is doggy style with the vagina
Damn, is it because the hole is positioned too low? I was probably gonna use it for that more than anything. No buttjobs is not a big deal though.
I checked out Akaris Buttocks and I think I much prefer the way the Kiwami looks directly from behind anyways. That plus the fact its 2x the price.

>> No.31867598

>>31867059
I heard it was illegal in Texas too - did they change the laws?

>> No.31867862

>>31867059
>Loli is only illegal in Kentucky, Florida, and Tennessee.
Wrong, nothing has ever happened in those states, and the only state where anyone actually ever went to jail over it was in Iowa (but it was a federal obscenity prosecution) and the only state's law anyone ever says mentions drawings is Utah or Idaho or some shit.
Anything else you hear about falls under obscenity laws which are subjective unconstitutional bullshit.

>> No.31869405 [DELETED] 

>>31867484
Yeah the Akari has those weird little feet.
I just took out my Kiwami to briefly test the balance and I guess its not so much that you can't do it at all but that you need to lay it on something to angle it properly. That's kind of a pain to setup and maintain vs just plopping it down and plowing away at the asshole. I actually own a doggy style minihip (Hatsujo Gal Endless Fuck) that I occasionally use for this reason. It's just so natural and easy to use in that position that the overall feeling is pretty damn good despite the tunnel itself being unremarkable. The minihip was only $80 (I got it on sale for $60 actually) so for it to compete in any way with a nearly $300 hip, I think there must be something to the idea of getting a hip that's tailored to what you want to do. If I were in your shoes (and I was at one point) I would just get both types but if I had to choose one hip to stick to forever, I would go for the Kiwami because it's otherwise really versatile.

>> No.31869557

>>31867484
Yeah the Akari has those weird little feet.
I just took out my Kiwami to briefly test the balance and I guess its not so much that you can't do it at all but that you need to lay it on something to angle it properly. That's kind of a pain to setup and maintain vs just plopping it down and plowing away at the asshole. I actually own a doggy style minihip (Hatsujo Gal Endless Fuck) that I occasionally use for this reason. It's just so natural and easy to use in that position that the overall feeling is pretty damn good despite the tunnel itself being unremarkable. The minihip was only $80 (I got it on sale for $60 actually) so for it to compete in any way with a nearly $300 hip, I think there must be something to the idea of getting a hip that's tailored to what you want to do.
If I were in your shoes I would start with a doggy style hip but look at getting the Kiwami eventually. But if I had to choose one hip to stick to forever, I would go for the Kiwami because it's otherwise really versatile.

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Note: Kiwami's butt is too large to fit into standard package.

>> No.31872305

Onatsuyu came in but the best by date says June 2020. Is my dick going to fall off?

>> No.31872455
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31872455

>>31872305
>using lube past its use by date
>doesn't know that lube practically turns into lava after expiring

>> No.31873249

looking for a hole with the same features as the section witch, only tighter with more stimulating texture

>> No.31873268

>>31873249
suction* witch

>> No.31873364

>>31871465
That box is sexy enough to fuck it.

>> No.31873638

Do you uncut bros ever hold back your foreskin with one hand while doing your business with the other?

>> No.31874420

How do you store your holes?
I picked up one of those small string bags on motsu when I got my julia+ and it barely doesn't fit. Are the zipper bags they have on there any larger?

>> No.31874906

>>31874420
I don’t have anything that big so the large ziplocks are all I need
I also keep and clean the original plastic holes are in though

>> No.31877158
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>>31874420
I currently store it in a box with a combination lock, inside it's just sitting on a paper towel.
Inside the box I also have some dehumidifying things - Silica Gel Packets and also [pic] (which I think also contains Silica Gel).

I used to use ziplock bags but they were a bad idea because it generates mold way faster since it traps the moisture (being exposed to air is better for the onahole). I'm definitely feeling an improvement with my new setup, no mold at all.

>> No.31877758

Is there anything similar in intensity to the Virgin Loop Hard? I've tried other, milder holes and haven't been particularly impressed.

>> No.31879011

>>31877758
Carnivorous mermaid

>> No.31879830

>>31872455
Hey man I don't know how stable these chemicals are

>> No.31879947

>>31879011
Sounds good, thanks anon! Hypothetically speaking though, if this wasn't enough, is there anything even more intense on the market?

>> No.31883388

>>31873638
yes, especially with bj onas, it's great

>> No.31883715

>>31869557
>Hatsujo Gal Endless Fuck
I actually had a mini hip before that I assume was also a doggystyle hip, the Puni Fuwa Mocchi 2000, but I was disappointed at how hard it was to keep it in place while fucking it, and also how small it was (despite me being into lolis).
It was also kinda hard to get my dick into the vagina of that one though so I usually just went with the anus.
The weight and size are why I keep eyeing the Kiwami since I assume it will be easier to keep in place and pound regardless of the position.

>> No.31884306

>>31879947
I'm a big advocate of the hard and tight cyclist girl. She's a true dick bully in my opinion. Can't get an erection for like an hour after using it.

>> No.31888641

What is the best site that ships internationally? Is
buying from otonajp still dont worth it?

>> No.31888976

>>31859458
Tenga Flip Orb arrived today, blue variant, my very first onahole. Holy fucking shit, it feels so fucking good bros
Plan was to use it to cure death grip and build up some stamina, but I didn't make it past five minutes either time I used it today, suction too strong - and it wasn't even warmed up yet
Clean up has been pretty easy, though I do wonder how long it's gonna last considering the material
Fucking hell it was a good purchase tho, at least for a first one, and the design is pretty enjoyable as well

>> No.31889337

>>31888976
>but I didn't make it past five
Bro if i can last 30 seconds its a miracle

>> No.31889518

>>31888641
amazon.jp

>> No.31889822

>>31888976
any idea why it's so damn expensive though?

>> No.31889897

>>31889518
Could you tell me about your experience with them? I'm planning to ship to U.S. from amazon JP but there's not much written material on shipping from them.
>Is it too expensive?
>Is there any customs shit we have to go through (for US)?
>Do they ship it in amazon boxes?

>> No.31889979

Is Allove and Fondlove a new brand or something? Been seeing them all over the place

>> No.31889999

>>31889822
I paid 50 bucks for it off amazon including shipping, which is perfectly reasonable for the experience, especially considering that it is reusable

>> No.31890326
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>>31889999
i mean it's quite expensive nevertheless
i bought some random onahole for 18 bucks off amazon, buying it only because for some reason for the short time it was there it had 4.9 stars and fucking hell the rating wasn't lying, lasting more than 5 minutes is damn hard on top of it having 2 separate holes and was reusable, so i'm kinda doubting wether it's worth that much

>> No.31890478

>>31889822
>>31889999
>>31890326
I don't own a Tenga Flip, but my perspective here is that the 50 bucks on the price tag equates to brand name markup. Nothing revolutionary about the design or material. It's just plastic and chemicals at the end of the day.
If the Tenga Flip works for you and you feel like it is worth the money, I'm happy for you.

>> No.31890613

>>31867862
>(but it was a federal obscenity prosecution)
Did the case ever go to trial or did he just plead guilty?

>> No.31890617

>>31888641
>buying from otonajp still dont worth it?
if you can wait 1 year to get your order it's fine

>> No.31890669

>>31889979
Fondlove is the main name. They have dozens of different sub-names in different countries that are just different boxes. They are a China company that pays reviewers.

>> No.31890682

>>31863818
I've used shower gel to jakc off in the past under the radar. It's alright, but don't do it too often or your dick skin will start peeling off.

>> No.31890891

>>31890478
Thank you, for me it was worth the unique design and the easy of cleaning. I gotta say it's also easier to leave out to dry since I live with a roommate and don't necessarily want a succubus womb hanging out on my table

>> No.31890921

>>31890669
What about Nightfly, are they also included?

>> No.31891083

>>31889897
it's amazon

>> No.31891217

>>31863818
Never use any kind of soap on your dick

>> No.31891476

FINAL UPDATE FROM >>31622676 and >>31679603
The hip I ordered came way quicker than I expected. Hopefully this is a sign that otonajp is getting better. I'll post a pic of the hip when I can.

>> No.31891734

my rubber gf is at sea for the 36th day now
i hope she's not cheating on me with the sailors

>> No.31891924

First time buyer, I've narrowed down my choices to getting both an R20 (shorter version) and Mouth of Truth but can't decide between variants:
R20 Puni or R20 Third Gen?
Regular MoT or MoT Perorin (with tongue sticking out)?
Looking for an intense sensation.
I'm leaning towards the Puni and regular MoT but would like to hear what more experienced anons think.
Also standard Pepee lube or MoT lotion for a first-timer?

>> No.31892056

>>31891734
Ay yo who's dis sexhole thingy majig, lemme use it...

>> No.31892340
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>>31892056
>it's a 10 dollar full hip from china

>> No.31892494

>>31890613
He just plead guilty for a 6 month sentence, which is why there's still an argument the charges were unconstitutional bullshit.

>> No.31892639
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>>31891476
Is this because of their bad reputation of service or because of the type of stuff they sell?

>> No.31892712

>>31892340
Even better

>> No.31892731

>>31892639
Service is super ass

>> No.31892753

>>31892639
Bad rep of service.
I think that their ToS even specifies that they're not obliged to fulfill your orders.

>> No.31892834

>>31892731
>>31892753
Yeah I've known about staying away from them for a long time. But since it somehow has a 4.3/5 rating on there I thought maybe the warning was put up because of something else.

>> No.31894433

>>31891924
I've only got the original MoT, but from what I've heard the perorin comes standard with the softer teeth. So if the hard teeth scraping your dick is a turn off/on the go with what works for you. I will say though that I was pretty pleased with the hard teeth. Also I've heard tales of MoT toys having hit or miss construction quality. Mine for instance seems to have the hole angled up a bit, which is annoying. Gonna be trying out the sweet kiss lotion tonight so I'll report back on how that compares to Onatsuyu later.

>> No.31894533

So my transparent Tenga flip has turned pink on the inside for some reason.
I mean bright pink. I think it might be Serratia Marcescens; but I'm not sure since it won't wash off.
Any advice?

>> No.31894616

>>31894533
A very easy homemade mixture that you can use to clean Serratia marcescens is baking soda mixed with dish detergent (a 4:1 ratio works best). After rinsing this mixture off, continue cleaning with vinegar. Let this soak and then clean and rinse.

>> No.31894645

I know this is a massive guest question but the pastebin is dead, what's a good onahole lube? Looking at Onatsuyu rn, is that a good starter?

>> No.31894660

>>31894533
>>31894616
You can also try boiling it for 3 minutes. Use your own judgement when considering the damage either of these could do to your hole.

>> No.31894680

>>31891476
Alright here it is. If you guess the hip correctly, I'll suck your dick.

>> No.31894723

>>31894433
I have the same issue with my MoT.
Makes me scared of piercing it due the wall being thinner.

>> No.31894731

>>31894680
it's nothing!
*unzips*

>> No.31894940

>>31894616
>>31894660
Cheers.

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31895294

>>31894731
>>31894680
FUCK

>> No.31895352

>>31895294
it's a puni ana

>> No.31895436

>>31895294
preggo hips. never thought this was possible but i have an erection none the less.

>> No.31895851

>>31895352
But what kind?

>> No.31896206

>>31894645
either onatsuyu or meiki bliss. the former is thicker while the latter is thinner. both of them work fine for what they do.

>> No.31896314

>>31894645
Onatsuyu is a decent lotion to start with. My only complaint is the opening in the bottle is a little too wide. Meiki bliss is also a good decent starter.

>>31894723
Yeah exactly. There's also a little tear in the side of the lip already which worries me. Still an amazing hole though.

>> No.31896407
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I want to try a tomax hole in soft, I found hard holes to be a meme for my dick. What is a recommended Tomax hole for soft or rich soft?

>> No.31896521

>>31896314
>There's also a little tear in the side of the lip already which worries me.
You should be worried once it asks you "Am I pretty?" but that could be a MAJOR turn on for anyone.
Kuchisake-onna

>> No.31896556

>>31896407
Get the Venus Real its the usual go to for soft

>> No.31896649

>>31896556
Own one, was curious about the others.

>> No.31899238
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31899238

The puni ana DX is only 112 USD on amazon, meanwhile it's 263 on Toydemon. Is this a good deal or a scam? It has over 20 five-star reviews on amazon..

>> No.31899310

>>31899238
Toydemon doesn't even sell the Puni Ana DX, learn2read.

>> No.31899338

>>31899310
yes they do https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/torso/scaled-replicas/puni-ana-dx-kiwami

>> No.31900666

>>31896407
>>31896649
I like the venus clone, I haven't tried kokalo but I've seen that recommended

>> No.31900814

>>31899338
https://youtu.be/5wFDWP5JwSM?t=23

>> No.31901048

>>31867059
What about Mexico?

>> No.31901598

>>31864216
Thanks for the response. I understand the vagina is harder but do you have a specific toy you would compare either the vagina or the anus to?

>> No.31902096

I can't decide if I'm genuinely happy after buying mine or filled with incredible amounts of shame

>> No.31902288

>>31902096
What are you ashamed of? There is nothing wrong masturbation.

>> No.31902340

>>31902096
Just let it flow.

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is there a place that makes custom onahole dolls??

i'd love a custom life sized Suiseiseki doll

>> No.31903472

>>31889897
Shipping depends on what you buy. I bought a bunch of manga yesterday and the shipping was like $18. I've never dealt with customs with Japanese or Chinese orders, but your purchase will go through them. If you order from Amazon.jp and it ships from Amazon.jp, it comes in an Amazon.jp box. It's fucking Amazon, just in japanese.

>> No.31903744

>>31902288
The fact that I’m using it as a replacement for real human attachment (I can’t meet anyone I really care about)

>> No.31903878

>>31903744
You don't care about them because most if not all modern women aren't worth anything.

>> No.31903943

>>31903174
I believe catdoll will make custom dolls for you. They're happy to work with customers to make your dreams come true. But I've heard it can be pricey.

>> No.31903964

>>31903878
That’s people in general. Doesn’t help though desu

>> No.31904185

>>31903744
If you're using a sextoy to replace the emotional support of a human being, of course you're going to feel shame.. You should adjust your mindset - it's just a wet hole.

>> No.31904271

>>31903174
Also Aotume might be able to do something.

https://www.dollter.com/how-to-customize-atome-doll/

they have a few hetromeri-whatever eyed 135cm dolls. might be a bit taller than boatlight girl

>> No.31904303

>>31891924
>>31894433
Alright, review update for the Il Primo Baccio lotion.
Can't read the Japanese all over it, but the art is cute. I like that the spout is much smaller than on the Onatsuyu. It gives you better control of how much you use. The bottle is also a smaller more manageable size. However, my initial nitpick in that it opens from the bottom of the bottle. As for the lotion itself - it's definitely thinner than the Onatsuyu. Thin enough that it made the MoT much more tactile in my opinion. However that thinness also made it seem that most of it tended to pool towards the bottom of the tunnel, leaving the top a bit dryer. Rather than needing to apply more, I just flipped the MoT upside down to get a more even coat (and I also find it much more stimulating to use this way). As for the gimmicks - It is indeed VERY sweet. Like, if it had nutrition facts there'd be like 50g of sugar in that bottle. Also it does tend to leave little ropey, spit-like tendrals that connect you to her lips. Which is hot, but I'm not sure if it's worth the money for those two factors. Overall it's not too bad but given that it's mainly marketed as an oral toy lotion, I'd say something like the Onatsuyu or Meiki bliss would be better all rounder choices.

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How big of a no no is using bodyoil with an onahole? Or even vaseline? The lube that came with mine is a bit too thick for my liking.

>> No.31906326

>>31906212
I wouldn't. The lubes used with onas are water based. If it's too thick, just add some water to it to thin it out.

>> No.31906391

>>31906326
Alright will do

>> No.31906408

>>31906212
Anything petroleum based will damage it. Only used water based lubes.

>> No.31906564
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>bought like 8, 5oz bottles of lube at the start of the pandemic
>down to half a bottle now
>realize my post apocalyptic stock didnt even last a year

>> No.31906771

>>31903744
Do you fap as a substitute for human attachment?

>> No.31907521

>>31903744
Do you feel shame for using a backscratcher instead of asking someone you care about to scratch your back? Onas are the same. You have a physiological need, they are a tool to satisfy it, nothing more.

>> No.31908434

>>31906564
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMGNV51
Only $2200

>> No.31908664
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>>31908434
>those images

>> No.31908735

Might be weird but anyone have any recs for a good onahole for edging? I mostly just like the lewd sounds onaholes make and am pretty open to trying whatever desu!

>> No.31908785

>>31908664
don't forget to check the 275 gallon pictures

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>>31908785

>> No.31908996

>>31908892
This man is ready for his Venus Real

>> No.31909043

>>31906564
does lint stick to them easily?

>> No.31909158

I see some of you sneak onaholes for a quick fap into the bathroom, but how do you make them less noisy?

>> No.31909226

>>31909158
squeeze all the air out

>> No.31909543

>>31909158
If you moan really loudly, your family won't hear the onahole.

>> No.31910465

are there any fotm onaholes now that im traveling back to Japan? i dont want hips, i just want the regular onaholes

>> No.31910691

>>31909158
Mostly by not pounding away at them. But also I only use them when taking a shower, so that kinda drowns out a bunch of the noise. Most aren't all that loud though. The tenga deepthroat cup on the other hand - christ that thing was noisy as all hell.

>> No.31911071

Any Cuntboy styled onaholes?
Or at least tomboy/muscle girl onaholes?

>> No.31912596

any mouth onahole that have a rough tongue?wanna go for a nekopara cat tongue thing

>> No.31916053

>>31888976
How is the closing mechanism on the orb?
I bought a flip zero a while back and it didn't take long for my gorilla self to break one of the little plastic hinges that keep it together on one side.

>> No.31916900

>>31916053
Also as a general question, since the flip 0 was my first hole and thus is my only reference point:
Does anyone know how it would compare to different holes regarding the ToysHeart Characteristics Chart?

>> No.31918014

>>31867435
Reasking and adding, will regular be uncomfortably stimulating if you're fairly sensitive? I suppose I already know the answer, my venus real in soft can be too stimulating if I don't settle into a well lubed rhythm. I'm curious though and am thinking of getting venus clone in rich soft, and lilith uterus in regular? But if regular will be too much I'd rather not waste the money.

>> No.31919674

>>31894433
>>31894723
yeah I read in the guide that MoT has quality control issues. Still, it seems to get excellent reviews anyway so I have to try it.
I don't think I mind the teeth but I can't say for sure. I'm more interested in the internal structure and the regular MoT seems more exciting than the Perorin at first glance. Worst case scenario I've heard people snip the teeth off if they don't like the feeling.
>>31904303
Helpful review, thanks. Might skip the MoT lotion then. I haven't looked into Onatsuyu much but the reviews are great. Do you recommend that over Pepee lube?

>> No.31924657
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>>31909043
yes, and they can build static. however some baby powder in the linted area gets it right off

>> No.31925832

>>31906564
>>31924657
is there any particular reason to use baby powder over corn starch?
is baby powder fortified with things that might react with tpe? also do you mind if baby powder has an odor?

>> No.31926866
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31926866

Is cyclist girl a good equivalent to shark pussy?
I'd have to pay expensive shipping if I want the umi no ane, but it's said to be the best hard ona.

>> No.31927053

>pre-order the Renzoku Zetcho Kari Binta
>have to get it from toydemon, an american retailer
>american only shipping for pre-order
>anon recommends a proxy
>alright, proxy then i guess
>order to a proxy because proxy says shipping for a 1lb package will be £11 for budget
>that's fine, it's probably what i would have paid anyway
>pre-order maybe comes out february
>brexit
>us on fire
>border delays from EU
>proxy's price for a 1lb package raises to £20
>oh well
>VAT changes - 20% of total cost of package and postage
>my postage is now like £36
>...customs charges
>have to pay £2 customs fee plus the royal mail £8 for """handling"""
>£46 for postage on a product half the price
bruh
so not only is it doing to be delayed with the customs officer's using my onahole first, they're also charging me a premium too
holy fuck

>> No.31929792

>>31924657
Gross you can see all the hair that's stuck on them even now.

>> No.31930235

>>31873268
Girl in the box hard is tighter, but not more stimulating.

Takes more work to get the air out too, but it’s pretty damn near indestructible like the seducing witch

>> No.31930361

can i use glue as lube?

>> No.31930443

>>31903878
Maybe you’re just really shit at making female friends

>> No.31930561

>>31930443
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>> No.31930571

>>31930443
Cry more, faggot.

>> No.31930654

>>31919674
Yeah that's always an option. The teeth honestly aren't too bad in my opinion. But it probably depends on how girthy you are. Also I've never tried the Pepee lotion so I can't really compare the two.

>>31925832
I always prefer cornstarch to baby powder simply because it's technically a food item, and therefore i feel is safer to have in constant contact with my junk. Also apparently baby powder is just a bunch of jagged rocks at the micro level, whereas cornstarch is little balls.

>>31926866
>Is cyclist girl a good equivalent to shark pussy?
Haven't tried the mermaid yet, but it's on my list. I can say the cyclist is a real dick bully. The sharp bend near the front of the tunnel means she'll force you out if you aren't rock hard though. But once you're in there it's a damn stimulating ride. All my other toys I can use basically twice in a row and still be horny later. Cyclist girl truly defined the word "spent" for me. Can't get hard and am just totally done for the day afterward.

>>31930235
How much suction does the witch actually have? The only toy I've used like that was the tenga deepthroat and that thing would legit grip your dick and not let you out without a good bit of force.

>> No.31930793

>>31930654
How long have you been using the cyclist girl?
Is it showing signs of tears?

>> No.31931422

>>31924657
How's the titty fucking? Do you ever splat all over her face and have a bother cleaning everything(removing eyes, washing wig, redoing makeup, etc)? Do you just wipe off lube and spoob with a wet rag and call it a call? Is it a big mess to do clothed zuri?

>> No.31931621

>>31859458
>>31859971
Paimon is not a EMERGENCY onahole.

>> No.31931670

>>31931621
r34 says the opposite

>> No.31932157

>>31931621
true
she's an everyday onahole

>> No.31933239

So... i've wanted to get something special this year, and wanted to try one of the bad dragon masturbators. Bear with me please, i know that this is offtopic.

Does anyone have any experience with them? I wanted to buy Janine or Gala

>> No.31933394

>>31933239
western dogshit

>> No.31933467

>>31930793
I've only had it for a little while, used it maybe 3 times. But no signs of tearing yet. Feels pretty durable to me.

>> No.31933781

>>31933239
Gala looks a little bit more interesting, but both have pretty shit interiors for a 100 dollar hole.

>> No.31933784

Is potato starch ok to powder an onahole with?

>> No.31934466
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31934466

>>31889518
BEZOS

>> No.31936140
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31936140

>get paycheck
>want to buy another ona
>despite buying 2 last month
>despite having 7 or 8 total

>> No.31937522

>>31933239
They're made out of sillicone so they feel terrible. If you want to fuck animals, buy a hole from here:
https://www.american-meat.com/collections/all?page=1&sort_by=best-selling

>> No.31937804

>>31936140
I know that feel bro. I've got 6 currently (not counting tenga eggs) with another 14ish on my wishlist.

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>>31937804
>>31936140

I have 3 in my toydemon cart right now please help

>> No.31938217

>>31934466
This is why he's only the second richest man in the world.

>> No.31938403

>>31936140
>tfw 14 holes
>want to buy more

>> No.31938964

>>31937522
Is there any way to easily tell if something I bought is made out of silicone?
Like make a jiggle test or something?

>> No.31938995

Do you guys wash with handsoap, or is that bad for the ona?

>> No.31939000

is there a better option than Tomax, feeling wise, don't care about looks.

>> No.31939025

>>31938964
Read the store page, it always tells you what material it is. Silicone is extremely firm

>> No.31939375

>>31938995
no i just rince with water quite a bit and let dry

>> No.31939687

Any ideas on a way to have more fun with an onahole? I've used it will sitting, standing, and laying in bed but I want to try something else. Any ideas? I'm using a venus real.

>> No.31939748

>>31939687
upside-down handstand on a wall or tie it to a ceiling fan and have it helicopter on your dickus

>> No.31940229

>>31938995
No issues using handsoap

>> No.31940643

>>31938100
Which three are in the cart anon? The only thing stopping me (other than things being out of stock) is lack of storage space for them.

>>31939687
Trying different positions is definitely a good idea. I usually prop one up on a pillow for doggy style. Could also try different locations (e.g. shower, outside, etc)

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>>31940643
These three. Probably get them once that next stimulus check comes in
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/renzoku-zetcho-kari-binta
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/anal-kaikin-gal-bitch-onahole
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/atelier-onahole

>> No.31941180

Anyone know which onahole is the most realistic and like a vagina?

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31941212

>>31940976
>She thinks 7 wombs is enough to stop me impregnating her, that slut fox

>> No.31941358

>>31939687
Thrusting definitely provides a different sensation. Occasionally I'll put it on a pillow with two rolled up towels on either side, then a pillow on top. It's fairly stable and you don't have to worry about accidently bracing yourself directly over it. Alternatively obviously the old between two cushions / mattress thing, if you have a hard outer exterior. I didn't find using it in the shower too enjoyable though personally.

>> No.31942961

The difference between having a doll and just using an onahole is almost the same level of difference between using your hand and using a hole. Thrusting away feels amazing.

Going plush was definitely the move too, extremely minimal cleanup, just need to do the hole, wash clothes once in a while and give the entire thing a good cleaning every few weeks.

>> No.31943270

>>31942961
How big of a difference is there between thrusting away at a big hip like the Kiwami and thrusting away at a doll?

>> No.31943523

>>31938100
Do you think the witch design is too petite to get through Canadian costumes? I guess I could just ask to have it removed to he safe.

>> No.31943650

>>31943523
It looks like a loli to me so probably. Just move out of Canada bro.

>> No.31943660

>>31943650
I wish man.

>> No.31943826

>>31943660
Different anon than >>31938100, but I got mine off US amazon. If it's being sold on canadian amazon you should be fine, supposedly. The only people who will ever see it are within amazon and then you, no customs.

>> No.31943937

>>31943826
Its on .ca yeah, primable too. Might grab it payday as I was disappointed with my zxy purchase to he honest.

>> No.31944052
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31944052

>browsing through the aotume doll custom jobs
>see this
how the fuck can anyone fuck tanya without imagining an old japanese man?

>> No.31944436

>>31939748
no joke, I am getting fit this year with the sole purpose of fucking my doll in a handstand
currently I get out of breath in less than 5 minutes doing normal positions and I want to be able to last at least 20 minutes of hard fucking and at least 3 minutes while in the handstand

>> No.31944440

>>31867484
You can use thick winter blankets or pillows to change the angle.

>> No.31944536
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31944536

>>31871465
Looks like minecraft ass by SlipperyT.

>> No.31944589

>>31937522
The Scalie dragon one is really ugly.
>Our masturbator toys and packers are poured in their own Extra Soft firmness (sometimes referred to as "2 firmness").
Is sillicone that bad? Even if it says is extra soft compared to any other sillicone toy?

>> No.31944615

>>31940976
I've heard nice things about the Atelier. The Binta seems like a bitch to clean though. I do have the kaikin gal bitch and she's pretty nice. Tight little entrance with a more loose interior. So it's a good anal hole. The labia they put on it for detail are a little small though, seem kinda silly.

>>31938100
What's that top right one?

>> No.31944772

>>31943270
Probably about the same from a sensation standpoint, but I like the different positions you can get with the doll, and most importantly you can use it with multiple holes.

>> No.31944786

>>31944052
Anyone have experience with Aotume, custom or not? They're the most appealing dolls I've seen so far.

>> No.31944845

>>31944786
nope but after taxes i might get a Remilia one

>> No.31944967

>>31930361
You asking the hard questions, are you?

>> No.31945006

>>31944615
A Taciturn Girl

>> No.31945128

>>31944052
Because it's in the body of a cute girl.

>> No.31945360
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31945360

First doll was a Sujiman Kupa Cocolo SE.

After buying the Puni Ana Miracle DX last year, i never wanted any other onahole.

Maybe a doll next, but for now i am satisfied with my purchase.

Bitch is heavy though.

>> No.31951195

>>31941358
Good recommendation with the pillow/towel combo. Will use in the future.

>> No.31952468

>>31944436
hell yeah, i wish i could do that.

>> No.31954421

Honestly just has the most intense orgasms of my life with my doll. I didn't know that much semen could come out of my dick at once. I don't think I can ever go back to regular masturbation

>> No.31955381

I'm thinking about cutting the tongue off my Perorin so I can feel both the top and bottom teeth. Not sure if it would ruin the ona though, has anyone else done this or modded another ona before with good results?

>> No.31955428

>>31955381
Just buy the regular MoT

>> No.31955740

>>31955428
I already tried it (was my first ona) but the teeth on it were too harsh for me.

>> No.31957596

>>31954421
what doll is it

>> No.31957885

>>31957596
The popular sakura doll elf

>> No.31958147

Just ordered a puni Ana DX kiwami.
Since I'm a paranoid fuck I was wondering if guys had some information about (as I see it) potential "loli" in the lone star state.

>> No.31958395

>>31958147
There's nothing loli about the Kiwami.

>> No.31958705

What's a good slime girl ona?

>> No.31959265

>>31958395
What about the to right corner of the third preview?
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/torso/scaled-replicas/puni-ana-dx-kiwami

>> No.31959298

>>31959265
*top*

>> No.31960908

>>31955740
Get the soft version. It has soft rubber teeth instead of plastic ones.

>> No.31961319

>>31960908
Hmm I've heard that Magic Eyes is generally terrible making soft onas but I just looked at some reviews for it and it definitely seems like an exception there. I guess I won't be mutilating my Perorin then.

>> No.31963566

Can I put one of those little desiccant pouches directly inside an onahole overnight to make sure it's completely dry?

>> No.31967950

>>31916053
The cap that you put on the end to make it stay together is relatively flimsy, I wouldn't be surprised if it broke in a few uses. Size wise I'm 5.5 which seems the sweet spot in terms of depth, tho it does get a bit tight which might put additional wear and tear on the end piece and hinges.

>> No.31968057

>>31903744
Eh, I got a gf and regular sex and i still got one just to not wreck my dick when jacking it
You're overthinking it a bit man, human attachment is a completely different category to taking care of your own needs independently

>> No.31968332

>>31859458
So are there any small-scale dolls/bodies (something between 50-100cm) that can be hidden well and don't require too much upkeep?

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>>31940976
>tfw someone saved your shitty meme

>> No.31969075

i took my La Bocca Della Verita and a mason jar of similar size, managed to squeeze it in until the throat and a bit more was inside, and struggled for a few minutes to get my cock in. It was the most intense feeling I've ever had. Insane combination and levels of compression and suction. The edge was trivial to reach, keeping myself from cumming was difficult, i barely had to move it most of the time to bring me to the brink. The jar also let me use the ona at an angle that felt accurate to being deep throated (ie like my dick was breaking in half) if I wanted. It stayed attached to any part of my dick after I came, while standing up and despite the additional weight of the glass jar. I might just keep it in there permanently since the rips around the mouth are going to put it in its deathbed sooner or later anyways. I recommend giving something like that a shot. Not easy to get it in, or to get yourself in, but the rigidity of the glass was probably a big factor in the aforementioned compression and suction.

>> No.31972767
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31972767

I realized my Venus Real Regular was getting thin at the top. it started bubbling and perforated after only three uses. Now it leaks lube and cum, and the vacuum is gone. It felt good while it lasted but man, I feel disappointed. What should my next purchase be

>> No.31973439

>>31902288
incorrect

shooting one load drains you of nutrients that take 2 days to amass, it lowers your testosterone, increases anxiety, pornography is general is bad and leads you down pornographic spirals that change your behavior and possibly make you gay
fucking plastic is peak coomer. Degenerate

>> No.31974465

>>31973439
"lowers your testosterone"
last time i checked it's the opposite that reduces testosterone

>> No.31974614

>>31959265
You're going to jail.

>> No.31974826

>>31973439
Go take your pseudoscience elsewhere

>> No.31974868

>>31974614
Oh fug. But seriously though sorry if this seemed like a bother or something. Just read the guide and I'm very particular about things. Thanks anon.

>> No.31975328

>>31969075
I want to try this but at the same time that sounds like it could be potentially dangerous.

>> No.31975802

>>31972767
I've been using my Venus Real Regular for 2 years now as of this month and don't have that issue. You did something wrong.

>> No.31975889

>>31975802
Am I too big?

>> No.31976491

>>31975889
dimensions?

>> No.31976497

>>31974826
>>31974465
>t coomer

look at yourself after beating off daily how much can you bench press

>> No.31976890

>>31910465
whatever this one is: http://onahodouga.com/archives/55868616.html

>> No.31977071

>>31936140
>>31938100
>>31938403
>>31937804
I have 26 lol. Had even more but I threw them out.
Although this is built over the course of like 6 years. A lot of them are pretty beat up.
I think I'll throw away 90% of them and then start over. Maybe buy a hip or two.

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>>31977071
nah bro just donate them, sharing is caring :)

>> No.31977303

>>31977199
If UsedAnon ever shows up again, I'll probably entertain him.
He gets his fetish and I get a bit of money. Everyone wins!

>> No.31977520

>>31976497
285lbs, after a good coffee

>> No.31978060

>>31977520
this doesn't even make any sense how would coffee and the quality have any effect on benching? this isn't even a intermediate level either you just picked a number you thought sounded good with no thought of how many plates it would take to get there. You clearly do not lift at all.

>> No.31978422

>>31978060
i said coffee because i drink coffee when i wake up, aka in general i bench 285 pounds
and >muh not even intermediate level
it's just above intermediate, guys around me bench from 195 to 315, it's not something to be surprised about, leglet

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>>31968332
I just received my doll last night. Wife wasn't to happy but she liked it because it was really cute. It was actually larger and heavier than I thought it would be. 63cm (2' 1") and 5lbs. I can tell you it's still difficult to hide. As for upkeep, I need to look into it more but the doll came with powder. Before I use her for the first time I may need to bath her, re-oil and powder her. I briefly checked her vagina and didn't feel any ridges or bumps like some onas I've owned in the past which is concerning as to feeling. I'll keep you guys updated.

>> No.31979057

Are drying sticks worth getting?
Annoyingly onatsuyu is an add-on item on Amazon jp so I need something raise the total price. I could get 2x lotion and a stick or 1 lotion and 2 sticks.

>> No.31979123

>>31979057
If you're in the US, they have onatsuyu on US amazon

>> No.31979736

>>31979057
or just get another ona

>> No.31979820

>>31978936
I just checked her and yes there are random bumps in the vaginal canal. For under $200 I can say it is worth it for me. Can't wait for the wife and kids to be out of the house.

>> No.31980064

>>31979123
Sadly I'm in Europe. Actually, I might give motsutoys a try instead of Amazon. Haven't considered them before.

>> No.31980248

>>31980064
motsutoys are good and trusted

>> No.31980329

>>31892639
2017 they fulfilled all my orders. Wtf happened

>> No.31980461

>>31980329
They started getting cocky, and thus basically went to flipping coins as to whom gets their order filled out.
Then when people would rate them low, and the company would have those reviews removed.
They also pay blogs/twitterfags to shill for them.
But I guess COVID is kicking everyone's ass so they actually had to clean up their act (at least for a bit) according to >>31891476

>> No.31980624

>>31980329
I remember ordering from them a few years ago and their shit would take forever to send. You could be waiting a few weeks to a few months for the package to fucking ship. I guess they finally got their act together now that they are not the only service around

>> No.31980756

Has anyone ever done the subscribe and save from amazon.jp? Does it work for outside Japan? I tried doing it to save 10% on products, but I did get an email saying that there was an error about not being able to be delivered to the address, (so it did not save the list of item under the Subscribe and Save page) though oddly enough the order went through. No idea if they'll actually send it though.

>> No.31981196

>>31977071
>I have 26 lol.
How do you store them all? I was debating getting one of those under the bed shoe organizers for mine.

>> No.31981298

>>31981196
My bed platform has multiple drawers attached to it so I put them all in there.

>> No.31981521

>>31978936
>wife and kids
leko

>> No.31983759

What doll comes closer to looking like a cute anime girl?

>> No.31984257

>>31983759

https://www.dollter.com/product-category/aotume/?products-per-page=40

>> No.31984340

>>31983759
https://www.ovdoll.com/doll/fantasy-elf-sex-doll-mini-anime-sex-doll-liol-140cm/


Kinda want to risk it, kinda want to not.

>> No.31984669

What's the shelf life on Onatsuyu? I bought two bottles back in May thinking they were a lot smaller than they really were, and I'm just now about 4/5 of the way done with the first one. Haven't even touched the second.

I also wanted to ask if there are any recommendations for thinner lubes that would increase the sensation of my onaholes. I love Onatsuyu and it's the closest thing to the real deal, but I want something to get the most out of my dick bully onas.

>> No.31984816

>>31984340
damn that actually looks really good but it's expensive as fuck

>> No.31984937

>>31936140
3 dolls
3 torsos
4 hips
20+ onaholes

Don’t feel bad

>> No.31985118

If you get a baseball bat and put it as far in your ass as it can go while you use your onahole, it will make it feel much better.

>> No.31985789

>>31984669
>thinner lubes
try out Meiki Bliss

>> No.31985979

anyone concerned with how abrasive dry sticks are? and that they potentially damage your ona when removing after drying? they seem like they would scratch and pull material from the tunnel.

are there any ways to minimize if not mitigate this problem? i see toydemon sells a "sponge" type dry stick but it is out of stock. i have tried using microfiber clothes but it is hard to push all the way back unlike a dry stick.

>> No.31986032

>>31985979
I would wrap it in a microfiber cloth
As is, I just use microfiber and my finger, but I live in a very dry place

>> No.31986059

>>31986032
The desert or where the fuck do you live?

>> No.31986109

>>31978936
>Wife
i really dont understand what kind of situation you must be in where you have wife but you order a doll.
like any woman would divorce you right then and there because she would think you've gone insane

>> No.31986121

>>31986032
my fingers are too short to reach the end of the tunnel of my ona when using a microfiber. i guess I can use a chopstick or something to get it back there.

>> No.31986153

Dumb thing to use sticks. A couple centrifugal spins and it's all good.

>> No.31986242

>>31944589
yeah dude, they specialize in making dildos which are supposed to be hard to be able to penetrate
and the same material is used for their holes in a slightly less dense mix
it's still hard as fuck compared to TPE

>> No.31986245

>>31986109
Not true. I know a old fan of Gadget who is in his 50s and he custom makes gadget dolls for fun and fucks them. Even made his homely latin consuela like wife dress up as gadget to pose.

>> No.31986413

>>31986059
yes

>> No.31986524

I accidentally left the drying stick in my ona overnight and it came out damp, is the stick ruined? or the ona for that matter?

>> No.31986859

>>31986524
Toss them both just to be sure.

>> No.31986976

>>31986524
You're not supposed to leave them in?

>> No.31987224

>>31986976
If you left them in how are you supposed to use the hole?

>> No.31987301

>>31987224
Overnight I mean. I store mine with a drying stick in it.

>> No.31987906
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31987906

>want oppai but they're paper weight tier useless
>price is high enough to not be an impulse buy

>> No.31988238

>>31986524
It's really not a big deal. Leave the stick out on a cloth to dry out and it'll be back to normal in a day or less. Check your ona for anything that's still wet or feels unnatural, and if you do, clean it out thoroughly with antibacterial soap and dry it the old fashioned way.

>> No.31988258

>>31987906
You can't really use them for anything but look at them. Cant really put them under a dakimakura.

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>>31931670
>>31932157

>> No.31989260

>>31986245
You mean Gadget Hackwrench from Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers?

Is that guy even good at making them dolls?

>> No.31989264

>>31987906
You are not a real oppai man, you should be ashamed. But I agree titty toys are useless when you can just buy a titty doll.

>> No.31989313

>>31986121
Try those extra wide lens cloth. Normal cloth is gonna be way too bulky to fit into the hole even with a chopstick, but the thin lens cloth will get in there nice and easy.

>> No.31989511

>>31989260
Yes and no. It's a horrorshow.

>> No.31989538

>>31989264
It's kinda pointless if they aren't connected to a nice figure.

>> No.31989575

>>31989313
that's a great tip, thanks anon

>> No.31990086

>>31987301
It's sucking out all the oil and will make it rip faster.

>> No.31990156

I still think if you are going to use it in the next 24 hours it's not worth cleaning out the cum and lube. Just your dick. You can usually reuse with a couple drips of water.

>> No.31990224

>>31990156
JUST WASH YOUR FUCKING DICK SLEEVES JESUS

>> No.31990244

>>31978936
Where did you get that one?

>> No.31990360

>>31990156
Absolutely disgusting enjoy your dick disease. Did you know that unless it's kept vacuum sealed things like silverfish love finding their way inside wet crevices to lay eggs in?

>> No.31990527

realistically women dont even clean their own vaginas that often

>> No.31990583

What's a good dick destroyer hole? Say I have deathgrip syndrome, and I'm too much of a coomer to do nofap until jerking off feels 100% good again like it did when I was a horny 14 year old, what's a hole that will just shred my dick?
I've tried a lolinco crystal hard hole and it was shit, don't know if it was too tight combined with the hardness and absolutely \squeezed the fuck my dick and made it numb, but it just didn't feel that good. My girth is 5 inches by the way, just a little bit above average. I think it's more of a factor with hard holes that have less stretch and one of the reasons the lolinco didnt work for me.

>> No.31990664

>>31990583
I usually just put things like sand or bits of metal in old holes to get more stimulation. Only with old holes because it increases the likelyhood you will fuck it up.

>> No.31990692

>>31990664
jesus christ how horrifying

>> No.31990834

>>31990583
carnivorous mermaid

>> No.31990836
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31990836

>>31990664
>bits of metal
The fuck?

>>31990692
Reminds me of when I used a new ToysHeart fairy onahole without washing it first. There was some kind of sand or grit left inside which actually made it pretty intense.

>> No.31990914

>>31990836
Tiny bits of a cut up staple. I've mentioned it before.

>> No.31990935

Oops, a paperclip. I guess a staple would work too.

>> No.31990993

some people really get off to that stuff, dont kink shame
personally miss me with that shit though

>> No.31990997

>>31990935
What I would give to see the faces and/or dicks of these types of coomers

>> No.31991119

wait till you guys see hotkinkyjo stuff her asshole full of thumbtacks

>> No.31991132
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31991132

>tfw dick too big for onaholes yet too ugly and autistic to have sex
You guys are lucky you can use them. Be grateful for what you have while I suffer.

>> No.31991225

>>31991132
>retarded humblebrag
nigger just get a fleshlight. They're like 10 inches long and have the tightness of an 80 year old granny who has given birth to 10 kids

>> No.31991254
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31991254

So I haven't bought an onahole in a really long time and I don't normally come here.
I was looking at reviews on Infernal Monkey and saw a couple holes I'd like to try, but really only want to buy one.

The Blue Frame Amagake looks interesting and I really like the idea of a translucent onahole, but I don't see anyone selling it in the US. The ONDO! NUPU double hole (blowjob and vagina) looks really neat, but I'm skeptical of open ended holes from past experiences.

Any Anons have experience with either of these, or a hole similar to one of them that they'd recommend?

>> No.31991304
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31991304

>>31991225
but I dont want grannies

>> No.31991364

>>31991304
This. Children.

>> No.31991413

>>31991304
When's the henreader-style aotume doll coming out?

>> No.31991584

>>31991304
I don't understand this desu. If you're a pedo then shouldn't onaholes being too small for your dick be a positive? Wouldn't it make you feel like you're actually fucking a 1000 year old vampire?

>> No.31991663

>>31991584
It feels like a vice and literally has enough pressure on my dick to not fall off if I stand up and walk with it on so no

>> No.31991678

What happened to that anon who said he was gonna adopt a little girl?
He was an old anon who lived alone.
Did his dreams come true?

>> No.31991735

Let us know which holes you have experienced that feel as close to a real little girl.

>> No.31991791

>>31991678
Adopting is stupid because they check in with them. You gotta get a clean undocumented girl.

>> No.31991808

>>31991663
I see. I have a pencil dick (average girth but long) so I have experience with bottoming out holes and poking holes through the end but not with my dick being squeezed with the force of a thousand suns.
still i have to imagine a granny pussy fleshlight feels closer to a 1000 year old vampire than your hand

>> No.31991814
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31991814

I tried squeezing out all the air from my onahole but the damn thing still flies off my cock. There's no suction to it.
Am I doing something wrong?

>> No.31991937

>>31991814
Back when I used lube I remember it helped create a seal. Maybe you should consider lube. But then again if it flies off, maybe use lotion. I haven't used lube in a long time because its far more intense without.

>> No.31992525

>>31990156
do not do this
when i first got an onahole i did this and fucked up my dick
skin falling off etc and it wouldnt go away no matter what i did
ended up going to the beach with people and i had to go into the water to participate in some water game and my dick (at that point it had like open cuts on it thanks to how dry and cracked it was from whatever the fuck i got) hurt a shit ton due to the salt water. i think the salt water is what fixed me because whatever i had went away after that dip in the ocean
tldr wash your fucking hole you fucking autist

>> No.31992563

bought 3 more holes from amazon jp and shipping alone is 30% of the cost of the holes

>> No.31992635

Is there any onahole about a fairy or something like that?

>> No.31992669

>>31992525
Sounds like its just your issue anon.

>> No.31992701

>>31992563
>buying from a glorified online bookstore

Why do people do this?

>> No.31992754

Can anyone recommend me a good quality onahole that's basic enough for someone without preference that I can hide easily?

>> No.31992851

>>31992701
where can i get the best deals for an ona? i used to use otona jp without issue but then other anons mentioned bad service so i just decided to go to the source

>> No.31992857
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31992857

So I didn't realize I bought a silicone hip until it was too late.
How bad is it compared to TPE? Am I really shit out of luck when it comes to sensation and basic use?

>> No.31992865

>>31985979
Drying sticks are pretty bad if the material is very soft as it likes to cling to it. If the hole has any sort of firmess to it, then it doesn't make a difference. Your dick will literally do more damage over time than the drying stick.

>> No.31992879

>>31992669
yeah i didnt read properly, maybe i am the real autist here
i didnt wash my hole at all and got what looked and felt like dick rot so make sure to wash your holes

>> No.31992969

>>31992701
Just becuase we're past bump limit doesn't mean you're allowed to bait.

>> No.31993091
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31993091

>ZXY + Mouth of truth + Virgo
i must say is the best combo i could have gotten
I pick between zxy and mouth for my first nut and when i feel like cooming again i take virgo. Leaving virgo for second round makes it possible to edge with this toy and actually enjoy toy's tightness and texture
before when i had only zxy, going second round was close o impossible

>> No.31993242

>>31992969
Being serious bro. You should buy from stores that specialize in the stuff they are selling. Not a fucking bookstore.

>> No.31993284

>>31993242
this is such a dumb take holy shit
Do you own a failing onahole webstore or some shit?

>> No.31993333

>>31992635
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/fairy-onahole

>>31992754
What's your budget? The SI-X series is kinda nice for basic holes. They're small and don't big obscene orifices.

>>31990583
Super hard and tight cyclist girl is a pretty good dick bully. Though from your experience it sounds like you might want to go with something softer and ease away from the deathgrip syndrome.

>> No.31993402

>>31993242
Maybe if the specialty stores either
>had the shit I want in stock
>not charge 1.5x to 2x the amount for shipping than the products cost
>not practice scummy business tactics (OtonaJP >inb4WerksFerMe)
Then I would be more inclined to buy from them.

>> No.31993417

>>31993333
I honestly have no idea how much these things cost so just throw me a link to your recommendation. I remember when J-List was around i read through their catelog and shit wasn't stupidly expensive.

>> No.31993480

Jlist has tons of coupons and promotions and it pays to buy in bulk.

>> No.31993620

How do I use fantia? They have doll porn on it.
I dont think /r/ would even know how and I don't want to get banned for making a thread asking.

>> No.31993785

>>31993480
jlist is bad

>>31993620
>>>/r/

>> No.31993888

What's the cup size on the Meiki Evo? I know the bust is about 36" but that doesn't really tell me the cup size. Don't wanna buy a bra that's too big or small.

>> No.31993941

>>31993785
Always good for me and some people go above and beyond in their writeups and descriptions.

>> No.31994023

>>31993888
Google how to measure bra and then grab some measuring tape. It's basic bitch shit.

>> No.31994038

>>31993888
>buying a bra
God I hate going into victorias secret as a guy and buying bras for my dolls.

>> No.31994194

>>31994038
just buy it off amazon you damn idiot

>> No.31994198

>>31989538
Absolutely, now go buy a nice figure.

>> No.31994282

>>31993480
jlist is terrible and i used jlist before i found otonajp
jlist back when i used it overpriced everything, it felt more like a drop shipping store vs an actual store. when i realized i could get the same product for cheaper on otonajp i moved there and when anons started posting proof of otonajp fucking them over i moved again

>> No.31994714

Since it's been proven girls lurk here, is there any girl willing to send me one of their old plain pairs of underwear for my hip?
Obviously I'll buy it, I'm not asking for sweaty and soiled but I don't mind a pair that you've worn often and washed. I think a well worn pair is better than buying a new one that smells like department store.
Pls email me if you're interested in this. I'm in the US if you're curious about shipping. I'll cover the cost.

>> No.31994754

Kiwami shcizo anon here. Since the thread seems a little bit more active (and I've done some research) I want to run a few things by based on orders made in America and the guide.
1: I ordered from Toydemon which is locally (by country) based to me.
2: Does free shipping determine the carrier of my order and should I change it if it's a "nosey" delivery service like USPS?
3: Should I get the packaging of my order removed just in case?

>> No.31995065

>>31994194
I can't fucking actually see it online now can I "Idiot"? Plus, why would I want to pay for shipping and wait when there is a VS a few minutes away at the mall?

>> No.31995153

>>31994198
I meant a body. Full dolls or nothing.

>> No.31995294

>>31988238
thanks, I'll do that and see how it goes

>> No.31995405

>>31994754
2: Toydemon chooses the shipper I think. I have ordered several times and it is always Fedex for me (east coast).
3: The boxes are discrete and there has been no evidence that the boxes were opened and resealed for any of my orders. That doesn't stop carriers from scanning/xray your packages (does this actually happen? idk). Check your state laws just in case. Best of luck

>> No.31995548

>>31987906
>>31988258
I strap a set on my dakimakura with a bra and cuddle with it, but they are heavy and easily fall off if I move around too much

>> No.31995965

Buying a full sized doll would solve alot of y'alls problems.

>> No.31995969

>>31990664
I know you are meme-ing, but I bought a bj ona called pierced tongue fellatio and it came with a false tongue piercing (just 2 stainless steel magnet balls that stick on the tongue part) and it was hella fun

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31995995

Finally bought my first onahole. Didn't expect to explode like it was my first time fapping again.
Thanks /ona/.

>> No.31996010

>>31995405
Thanks anon. Any sites to check state laws regarding this stuff? Whenever I type anything in it just brings the Wikipedia for the entire country and certain search terms that I want to avoid.

>> No.31996051

>>31995995
Tell us the same 14 years down the road like I am.

>> No.31996206

>>31996010
Nobody gives a shit you got a pocket pussy dude.

>> No.31996252

>>31996051
I believe in the future. Surely there will be a massive breakthrough in onani-tech that will change the face of the world forever sooner or later

>> No.31996727

>>31994038
You know guys go in there all the time to buy gifts, right?

>> No.31996775

>>31996252
I thought the same thing when I first used a sex toy 23 years ago and when I got my first onahole ~14 years ago.

>> No.31996867

>>31996206
I know but ever since Canada anon I've kinda Been on edge with this sort of stuff even though I'm in America. Better be safe than sorry.

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>>31989264
Doll faces are too uncanny for me. I’d like to find a Headless torso... or maybe separate tits and hip since that would be easier to upkeep

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>>31991254

>> No.31997353

>>31995065
because it's usually less expensive, has more choices both in types and in sizes, and you won't look like a creep, now, do you?

>> No.31998054

>>31996886
By the way... Any equivalents of that torso? it’s Tantaly Britney. the company seems sketchy though

>> No.31998131

>>31994714
Dude, fucking don't.

>> No.31999077

>>31998131
They can be washed, im not asking for a nasty pair after a 3 mile run

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>>31995153
That's what I've been saying the whole time we are agreeing with each other you guy.

>>31996886
You're missing the point if you buy these dismembered abominations. Only acceptable for VR shenanigans, for which they are perfectly suitable.

>> No.31999746

>>31996867
>>31996206
>>31996010
Just checked the statutes of good old lone star and I didn't see anything about fictional characters and that one picture on the top right corner of Kiwami has the pubic area covered so that should cover that ground as well.

>> No.32000402

redpill me on vr porn. I watched it on the shittiest 5 dollar headset you slot your phone into and came handsfree, want a headset now. What is the best headset for just porn? I have a somewhat powerful pc but I'm not sure I'm interested in vr games and a standalone headset is cheaper i think and also more convenient. don't care about oculus forcing me to sign into facebook to harvest my data or whatever that shit is about.

>> No.32001297

>>31999406
>the point
To fuck it?

>> No.32002429

>>31859458
Is the Sujiman Kupa Lolinco Virgo a straight up upgrade from the original Lolinco?

>> No.32002863

>>31998054
i bought a scarlet torso recently and they're pretty legit for a chinese company

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>>31990244
mistresslovedolls
I had no issues and it arrived fast.
I was going to get pic related from another site 43cm silicone but it was out of my budget for my first doll. I'll get her later.

>> No.32004242

>>32000402
Oculus Quest 2 is pretty good and low hassle. Can stream videos over local network. The link cable to connect it to PC is about 80USD and will unlock more of the headset's potential if you ever desire. Only thing generally stopping me from recommending it is Facebook shenanigans but if that's not an issue for you by all means it's the best starting point for real vr.

>> No.32004827

>>32004003
Something like this is tempting but at that price i think it's better to just buy a torso and jerryrig BJD parts onto it.

>> No.32004928

>>31997033
If you want something translucent, you can always grab the Umi no Ana Mermaids. Whether its the Shy or Carnivorous one is up to if you want something to either soft or agressive.

>> No.32005692

I just realized that fugging a doll would feel better if the mattress itself was good. What pillows/mattresses do you guys have?

>> No.32006052

Any lamia pussy onaholes?

>> No.32006264

>>31993417
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/si-x-type-f
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/si-x-type-n
These are the two I have. Pretty good for shower buddies.

>>31995405
>there has been no evidence that the boxes were opened and resealed for any of my orders.
One thing I will say though is that every time I've ordered from toydemon, the driver places my box at the back door, slightly hidden from view under a patio table. Maybe he's just weird. But it's every time and makes me think he knows.

>> No.32006416

>>32004928
>Umi no Ana Mermaids
Thanks for the recommendation, Anon. I'll look at those.

>> No.32007448

Any recommendations for a 7.25in dick? I had a tenga zero but kept blowing out the back of it. I'm considering a Lilith uterus, are those any good?

>> No.32008084

>>31995548
Try with a sports bra? Might hold things in place better

>> No.32010730

Yo's. I busted a nut so hard with my sex doll. I think thats the most i've ever dumped lol. It was atleast 4 fucking pumps!

Also how hard is sex eith a small dick lol? I had an uncomfortable time penetrating my doll due to lack of length.

>> No.32011423

What is your experience with otona-sekai? Is it worth it to buy from it during covid? Thinking of buying fuwapocha long torori-na but people say it lacks of stimulation cuz it's soft. Is there any way to make it more stimulating?

>> No.32011549

Just read about the asbestos scare with diatomaceous earth bath mats in Japan. Does this mean I have to toss out my drying sticks too?

>> No.32011554

>first kiss lube is not coming into stock until 2/17
Damn, I was hoping to get it along with some holes if toydemon makes a valentine’s sale.

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>>32011423
Bought from them mid last year. Couldn't get EMS shipped at the time so they offered to ship it by ferry and like the stupid idiot I am said yes. It took nearly two whole months to reach my doorstep.

>> No.32020336

>>32002429
if you consider "more meat" an upgrade, yes.

>> No.32021817

Titsfag here, do paizuri onaholes really that good or are they more of a visual thing?

>> No.32023125

>>31996886
what about faceless dolls?

>> No.32024081

>>32021817
I personally think that oppai are a waste of money. Sure, they might be a boob to fondle, but in the end it's expensive and doesn't have any special texture besides "smooth and soft"

>> No.32024202

>>32024081
Pretty much this. It's alot of weight and money for nothing.

>> No.32024222

If I do Fedex hold at location, they can't tell what's in my package can they? I don't want the foid working there to know I just purchased two pocket pussies.

>> No.32025073

>>31978422
it's below intermediate you also dont understand the plate math to get there. you're literally lying about subpar lifts. lol

>> No.32025550

>>32025073
the gym's weights are by increments of 15 pound plates you fucking retard
sorry if for some reason your country's plantes are lighter or something
fucking stickleg

>> No.32025735

>>32024222
We know

>> No.32026034

>>32025550
there is literally no such thing as a 15 pound plate, you don't even understand what a plate is referring to. You're a fucking imbecile and you clearly do not lift.

>> No.32026230

>>32010730
Strongly depends on your body fat (less body fat means more dick, you get an extra inch if you can get under 10% BF) and your partner.
I'm at 5.5 inches at 6'3 and with "thick" or taller girls it can be pretty underwhelming and complicated while with smaller, skinny and asian girls it was usually the best as I could hit the right spots and be in a variety of positions.
The most important parts for you will be decent cardiovascular health (so go jogging or something until you can jog at a medium pace for half an hour), decent hand/mouth skills and the right attitude (think "I don't give a fuck about my dick size, I'm gonna have a great time fucking this girl"). Your bread and butter positions will be missionary, missionary where you lift her legs up and towards her head (close to mating press style), doggystyle if she can do it right (easiest access and you can get all in) and cowgirl (though control the rhyhtm so she doesn't break off your dick).
Girls also have no fucking idea about dick size - my dick has been called huge by girls who I fucked the right way even though I'm around/below average. Out of 23 different girls, only one negatively commented on my size and she was on the worse side of lays.
Now go fuck some holes lmao

>> No.32026527

>autists skirmishing
listen, I love it as much as anybody and it is pretty funny, but uh
>>>/fit/

>> No.32026659

Thinking of buying Nikutai Kankei - Physical Relationship but it says the vag and anal hole is only 10.5 and 11 cm long. is that gonna be a problem if im 15-16cm?

>> No.32027052

>>32010730
*Curb your enthusiasm music plays*

>> No.32027861

im running out of lube so im planning to get more onas

ive gotten virgin age admission but i didnt use or enjoy it that much
I liked sujiman kupa rina and mouth of truth though

Recomedns? Thankx

>> No.32028187

Any kiwami owners have a size comparison?

>> No.32028335

>>32027861
Nikudon Paipina Long Wave is only $20 and is one of the best ones for edging that I've found, and I own around 10 onas.

>> No.32028437
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>>32028187
Kiwami hip between two Ikea sharks and a R20 Third onahole

>> No.32028552

>>32023125
Sure. The only faceless doll I saw while looking was that meiko plush doll, but I wanted something with more weight and realistic feeling tits... however reading the thread, seems like the general consensus is tits are overrated?...thinking more with my dick at the moment, haven’t even considered storage or cleaning.

>> No.32028637

>>32028437
Thanks. Would you reccomend it? Every hip I've owned was too hard and shitty.

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>>32028637
The first and only use with it I did was very nice, however the cleaning process is very long and because I'm missing some cleaning tools and an actual fabric bag to store it, I'm reluctant to use it more before this stuff arrives. Another anon's experience might be more reliable than mine because that's my first hip.

>> No.32029023

>>32028848
why not just use a towel?

>> No.32029130

>>32029023
the hip material is very soft, and in my experience, if you badly wrap a toy inside a towel, it can leave a few marks or wrinkles on it, and that would be a shame on that toy imo.

>> No.32029257

>>32028637
What hips have you owned?

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>>32027861
pls respond also whats the best site these days

>> No.32029518

>>32029257
Maga Kore Minami's Bakujiri Hole and some hip on amazon I got. The former had decent sensation but felt like a brick which turned me off.

>> No.32029735
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where were you when even sex toy stores took political stances?

>> No.32029787

>>32029735
>otonaJP

>> No.32029832

>>32029787
I ordered from them once somewhere in 2018
never again

>> No.32030257

>>32029832
I almost want to order from them because they're a bit cheaper than Motsu, but the horror stories, warnings and their fucking ToS are enough for me to pay a bit more and be sure I won't have to go to court over a rubber vagina.

>> No.32030283

>>32029518
The minami is known to be kinda shit because it's a thin layer of TPE around a hard object. If you try a full or mostly TPE hip you shouldn't run into this issue. In fact the Kiwami has gel buttocks so it'll be softer than most hips although personally I don't notice too much of a difference between it and the minihip I own in terms of softness.
>>32029735
Yet another reason not to buy from OtonaJP.

>> No.32030678

/ona/, which would you recommend between ZXY and Lolinco? Thank you.

>> No.32030933

>>32030678
Hard to say. Personally I prefer the softer stimulation of the ZXY but from what I understand it's not very durable. I've only used it like twice personally so I can't really say one way or the other yet. Whereas the Lolinco was my first onahole and it lasted me years. In your shoes I would get the Lolinco, or better yet the Lolinco Virgo.

>> No.32030937

>>32030678
I have the Lolinco Virgo and I just didn't enjoy it in the few times I've tried it, mostly because I nutted instantly due the entrance ring.

>> No.32031034

>>32030933
Just to give more details, I have a sex doll that I've enjoyed using to help fight the urge to watch porn. However, I prefer only using it after abstaining for at least a week. Thing is, sometimes the urge to porn hits me hard, out of nowhere, in the middle of the week. I don't wanna break out the doll because it's a hassle to clean up. So, I've concluded that I absolutely NEED to have an onahole on hand to relieve myself so the urge goes away.

I don't particularly want to spend a whole lot of money on the ZXY, especially after hearing it's much softer and not as durable. The Lolinco sounds exactly what I need; higher stimulation and more durable. I'd basically only use it when those random urges hit.

>> No.32031238 [DELETED] 

>>32031034
Makes sense, the Lolinco is a good choice then. Just a heads up the entrance
ring is fragile so don't be alarmed if it develops a tear within 1-2 uses. The rest of it is pretty solid though.

>> No.32031288

>>32031034 #
Makes sense, the Lolinco is a good choice then. Just a heads up the entrance ring is fragile so don't be alarmed if it develops a tear within 1-2 uses. The rest of it is pretty solid though.

>> No.32031391

>>32030257
They're a bit cheaper but you get your order shipped in like 1 month when motsu sends your goods in like 1-2 days. This is worth the premium bit regardless of their ToS crap

>> No.32031443

>>32030257
If any shop tries to dick you around there's always the chargeback/paypal claim option. No amount of ToS bullshit allows them to commit fraud. You should avoid OtonaJP regardless because they're trash and need to die.

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