/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>already don't like Kiara
>skip the two-person collabs with her
>don't even bother watching Mori's streams with her since I already know it's going to be Kiara forcing her cringy ship and being aggressive to the point of coming off as unhinged
>Mori had to cancel her ASMR stream to finish the A Way Out stream and already said that the wine party stream planned for tomorrow is getting moved/canceled on Twitter
Great, the second-half of my week ruined thanks to this shit. I can't fucking wait for Kiara to move back home and hopefully grow completely disconnected from Mori when Japan refuses to let foreigners back in the country.

Calli is only good as a cum dumpster.

>>31518670
The best cum dumpster

I love Mori. And I love Calliope.

Annoying cunt with no talent in streaming

>>31518572
i think it's because of mic issues or chat pushing for it over the asmr stream, but we'll never know for sure but yeah i avoid two person collabs with her and kiara

>>31518572
There were some really amazing moments from Mori so I'd really suggest checking out the clips at least, but that's understandable.

>I can't fucking wait for Kiara to move back home and hopefully grow completely disconnected from Mori when Japan refuses to let foreigners back in the country
This will probably never happen though, at least on Kiara's side, I bet she plans on riding Mori's coattails until one of them graduates.

>>31518572
I hope you're ready for their week-long vacation together.

>>31519120
I'm hoping for the chink flu to do its job, shut down all unnecessary travel even within Japan, causing them to axe it altogether.

>>31518316

>>31518572
Here have my favorite moment from her streams today, I know it won't make up for there not being an ASMR stream but I hope you can enjoy it.

https://streamable.com/n1tfhn

>>31519314
That's a pretty shitty thing to wish for, Anon.

>>31519368
It's not the same without the previous games and the context of Ame and Kiara's mindnumblingly bad chess matches, which she was playing into.

Here's the full game: https://youtu.be/NZzsQY8tqVY?t=2107

Why did she cancelled the asmr stream bros?

>>31519314
if you look past the kayfabe they're still good friends, and having something they planned for getting cancelled would just make them both sad.

>>31519611
They wanted to finish A Way Out since they were getting invested in the game, and she had internet problems during the stream.

>>31519396
I never claimed to be a good person with rational desires. I like Mori and want to enjoy all of her content. I don't like Kiara, at all. Therefore, my natural inclination is to wish for as minimal contact between them as possible. At the very least, I don't want Kiara to graduate or have anything truly terrible to happen to her, I just want her to drop her stupid shtick of trying to glue herself to Mori's hip and move on.

>>31519806
Regardless of the possibility of Mori herself, one of her friends or students, or anyone else in hololiveJP she likes or wants to work with catching the virus, which would be terrible for her, this
>I just want her to drop her stupid shtick of trying to glue herself to Mori's hip and move on.
is just never going to happen because Mori herself disagrees with you about Kiara. This is the content Mori wants to make.

>>31518316
Calli she sounds like she doesnt want to be streaming anymore

>>31520123
She streams for the fans, but what she really wants to do is sing, draw, and animate.

>>31520568
Nobody would mind more singing and drawing streams.

>>31521707
True, but she probably wants it to feel like she's providing a legitimate streamer's experience.

The rrats that her second song is coming on dd channel were incorrect right?

>>31522179
The likely story is that the cover from November she was working on suffered a sudden permissions issue, which is why she went from 'Rock song that Deadbeats might like' as Mori to posting a guitar emoji on Hades Hold'Em, since she would have to just throw away all that work and the track she commissioned otherwise.

>>31522179
There are three songs:
>Watame's song, which Mori lent her vocals to
>the Mori & Kiara collab song, which will be hosted on Kiara's channel
>the cover that was supposed to be this month's song but was suddenly canceled due to circumstances out of her control
The third song, since Cover likely has no intention of helping her fix whatever's causing the song to not be released, will likely end up on her roommate's account because there's no reason for her to trash all of the work and effort that went into making it.

>>31522179
Technically it would have been her third song, but yes the rrats were correct it will be on her roommate's channel, you can blame Cover/management for that if it annoys you. As for me I'm happy she's finally putting some music on dd's channel because I've been waiting for half a year for another song.

>>31522478
There is her incomplete King cover that's floating around somewhere if you're really desperate.

>>31522512
goddamn, yes please.

>>31522573
You're gonna have to do your archive reps since I didn't save it, but I believe was made into a sound post with that Mori King image if it helps.

I WILL creampie this reaper.

>>31522634
Welp unless you have any keywords for me, into the archives I go.

I like Kiara and the reaper

>>31523374
I don't like Kiara but I appreciate you like reaper.

>>31522179
Yeah most probably, because shes also releasing a song on that account in January.

>>31518670
That'd be Kiara desu.

Post her best songs.
For me it's-
https://youtu.be/h-LOlueKCtk
https://youtu.be/6ydgEipkUEU
https://youtu.be/vz7JIBvAFqM
https://youtu.be/6v6-0LozpSc
https://youtu.be/v_cDJENafV4
https://youtu.be/C7uEhGBPtvE
In no particular order.

>>31532249
>best songs
>https://youtu.be/vz7JIBvAFqM
Pardun?

>>31532249
Based.
>>31532411
It's cringekino desu.

>>31532249
Legendary stray is the best among these.

>>31519368
I love this dork.

>>31532411
unironically the 2nd best Mori song

Will she ever do a live concert again?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1125582250773336064

>>31534197
chubby reaper

>>31534197
3D model karaoke is prob the closest thing we'll get in the near future

>>31534197
I was expecting a sneak peak 3d debut in that Watame song because Watame was also 3d.

>>31534197
Her live voice is kinda different. Still looks cute though.

>>31519999

>>31532249
All those links and he didn't include soundless.

>>31535366
I'm sorry anon.

>>31535308
Only true tomboy in Holo. People should honestly just stop forcing it on Calli, it doesn't suit her.

>>31534197

>>31535636
Hello fagchama

>>31534197
She looks like she could beat the shit out of me.

>>31532249
For me it's the cock sock rock chicks with dicks song.

>>31532249
Nice, It's got a good balance of shitposts and encouragement.

Here are mine in no particular order, excluding ones that aren't on youtube:
https://youtu.be/ZFFQYY0UoFU
https://youtu.be/4zr6NV5-vLs
https://youtu.be/h-LOlueKCtk
https://youtu.be/KRQ3sKGQ2KQ
https://youtu.be/5y3xh8gs24c
https://youtu.be/C7uEhGBPtvE
https://youtu.be/yp8Q5HIuEZU then immediately after https://youtu.be/H_V9ZmGc8og
https://youtu.be/qyjRoetjo6A I listen to this song whenever I feel down about no DD content because it reminds me of her live concert where she sang this song
https://www.youtube.com/VYu3PvRPZR8
https://youtu.be/gRG3GG7fPEk
https://youtu.be/cpP_LUsQ6Rg
https://www.youtube.com/HIk73rPZsrQ
https://www.youtube.com/6Iz8qlWk4hY

I know it's a long list but I usually cycle my top 3 from this list, so I like to include them all.

There are songs I couldn't include because they aren't uploaded on Youtube so be sure to check out her Alkatraz EP on spotify, bandcamp, etc.

>>31548602
samefagging because I screwed up the link for a few.

https://www.youtu.be/VYu3PvRPZR8
https://www.youtu.be/HIk73rPZsrQ
https://www.youtu.be/6Iz8qlWk4hY

>>31534197
How old is she? Looks like early thirties to me.

>>31549655
Probably. From what I've heard she's the oldest En.

>>31519368
Still laughing about Adam Saddler.
https://youtu.be/WEZr24fpp3c

>>31549837
I don't play Minecraft so I don't understand what actually happened here. Was the horse already riding along with her in the cart and she misclicked or some shit like that which ejected him out?

>>31549837
I still find it amusing and hard to believe how she thanked the akasupa right then & there.
https://youtu.be/m4MR1YdbtCw?t=1834

>>31550951
I personally think it made that moment even better.

>>31549655
26

>>31548602
A lot of her DD songs are far better compared to the Mori one's, but then again, maybe it's just because we literally only have like 5 Mori songs atm.

>>31552878
also that the mori one's have a filter when it comes to swearing and the fact that nearly all the songs are according to kayfabe

>>31551320
Wow. Ina is older than her yet looks so young in comparison.

>>31553162
Asians look young in comparison to everyone unless they've lived a particularly hard life.

Mori's roommate in a mask was looking cuter than usual on twitter today.

>>31553301
>Open her tweet
>The entire HoloEn cast pops up in more recommended tweets
It's like they don't even try to hide it anymore.

>>31532249
>>31533680
>ReaperかRapper
I've finally found my people.

I really love this dorky reaper and her super scuffed streams.

https://files.catbox.moe/e0u4tr.png

>I don’t think I can accurately give a summary..??
>But, I finally made the jump to full-time creator.
Who's she talking about here? Her tweets are so vague. On the Mori Twitter account when she made the tweet that her 2nd song will be released on some different channel so many rrats jumped to the conclusion that it'd be on the roommate's channel. Now she's saying that she's a full time creator, but on which channel though? From the tweet it looks like she's talking about the Mori channel but I'm not even sure myself.

>>31550394
The horse was on a lead, which drags the animal alongside you a certain distance.
Since the Horse couldn't fit in the minecart, it was registered as falling off the platform, but since the lead held it close to her position, it never let it hit the ground.
Since NPCs/Mobs have gravity buildup on fall, the horse fell at terminal velocity for well over 5 seconds, so the very moment it touched the ground, it registered as falling from max height, and killed it.

>>31554119
>creates content as Mori
>creates content on the side
>doesn't have a second job anymore
>meaning she is now free to pursue creating content full time
Now what part of "full-time content creator" is confusing to you?

>>31554119
i think that she refers to being full time creator in general.

>>31554190
Nah, I know from the context she must've been talking about the Mori channel but I just thought that there might be a slim chance where she's talking about her old channel. I know, it's a retarded narrative.

>>31554331
She IS talking about her other channel dumbchama.

I've been impressed how immune to drama and bullshit deadbeats are. I thought it was just cringe immunity but I guess its more widespread than that.

>>31554119
Stop being an obnoxious doxxbeat.
Do you think full time content creation was just her goal as Mori, that's been something she's been working towards for a long time and has said so on her roommates channel.

Dice Demons are getting content too you know, not just deadbeats.

>>31554331
She's talking about BOTH. DD already said that she's working on a new album for 2021, it just takes a backseat to her work as Mori because it's a side project rather than related to her work as Mori.

>>31554119
>now she's saying that she's a full time creator, but on which channel though?
she's referencing both, when she says full time creator she means that she can literally make content full time now.

>>31552878
It makes sense because she has her entire life for her songs as DD, whereas with Mori she only has about three months of experience. She also can't just repeat the same stuff as Mori.

Her work as Mori will become more nuanced as she gathers more experience and gets more ideas. If anything it's impressive it's as good as this when she's been hauling ass for three+ months.

I'm interested in knowing how the new status quo will affect DD though.

Doxxbraps have now defended:
>Doxxing
>Harassing other groups
>Letting a top level producer win her (aimed at indies) contest
>Mori joining Hololive just to boost her failed music career
>Mori thanking superchats mid collab
>Mori numberfagging mid collab
>Anitubers
>First collab not being a senpai
>First off-collab not being a senpai
>Mori actively ignoring hololive culture
>Bringing toxic normalfags to other holos chats
>Basically ruining every collab just by being there
>Trannies

>>31554828
cope harder

>>31554119
>has a job where she just has to act a persona to get enough money to pay the bills and some more
>has a side job where she can make the music she wants to make
is this what living the dream looks like bros?

>>31555118
your bait reps anonchama...

>>31554828
Go away schizo >>31554959

>>31554119
No more scythe swinging so that should be 8 hours a day that she can use on stuff she has actually been wanting to do. Should result in about 2-4 hours of extra stream content every day. She hasn't had any time to work on songs. Had trouble making hololive song deadlines and basically couldn't do anything for DD. If she has an extra 4-6 hours a day to work on her projects she should definitely be able to keep up with both Mori and DD. And I think we can assume she will be spending those hours working rather than messing around. I've been listening to DD songs lately and I love it. Exited to see and hear more.

>>31555214
>act a persona
She ain't acting. The character work, Underworld and reaper nonsense, is the only thing that she puts on for the stream. The rest is just her.

>>31555415
this, and even the character is clearly just a product of the same chuuni mind behind her roommates character.

>>31535237
Probably just scratchy because she was tired/losing her voice from performing live. Her old stuff on the DD channel sounds much more like she does today.

>>31555415
>>31555466
The reason why she's my oshi. It's just her actual personality with a bit of acting thrown in but I find her personality very interesting and also very relatable/familiar

>>31554174
RIP Mr. Saddler

>>31554828
https://youtu.be/6ydgEipkUEU?t=172

Song collab is out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXD4BbYludc

>>31556854

>other girl trying to get a melody going
>record-scratch
>UH GUH fastwordswithoutmeaningthatdon'tgowiththemelody AH HA GUH
Do people really enjoy Calli in her song collabs?

>>31557016
wrong thread, try here >>31554387

>>31557016
Filtered.
https://youtu.be/oV6bAZyBtyg

>>31556854
It was so bad. I'm sorry I can't lie, but this was really fucking bad. Didn't expected this from her. Maybe it was the chicken's voice that was too shrill and annoying but the song sounded awful in comparison to her older songs. Even reaper crapper was better compared to this desu.

>>31557016
Yes, very much so.
Plus using this song of all things is probably one of the worst examples since this is Vocaloid Hip Hop trash. Now go back to where the battle is actually happening.

>>31556854
Not bad, not the best, cute animation.

>>31556854
I love our boy but her voice definitely doesn't fit a poppy vocaloid song. Kiara's was good but I can see how she can filter some people. 6/10

>>31557460
i woudlnt be surprised if this song was choosed by kiara, because in all honesty it suits her voice far better than mori's more deep voice

>>31518572
I disagree, but still based

>>31556854
Hadn't heard of this song before. I want to like it but yeah I kinda don't. Liked the animation and art. Their performance wasn't bad at all and I don't think the song itself is that bad. It just seems like a bad song to use for a collab. I understand why probably Kiara picked this song but I don't think it worked too well. (Also not horribly.) Kiara's voice works well with this. Mori's voice was also fitting enough for the parts she sung. About 75% of it is Kiara singing though. Even the parts where you would think they would sing together are just Kiara. Bit strange for a collab. In Kiara's defence, It's on her channel. But then why call it "Kiara x Calliope" in the title? "Feat. Calliope" would me more accurate.

I don't dislike It but I'm not going to leave a like either. Feel like they could have picked a more fitting song. Oh well.

>>31560522
>But why call it "Kiara x Calliope" in the title? "Feat. Calliope" would me more accurate.
I felt the same honestly, i dare to say that Mori had more participation in watame's song desu

>>31560522
If you listen really carefully, she actually did sing in what is approximately the same number of sections as Kiara and was even in the duets but the mixing and harmonization was ass to the point that not only did Kiara overpower Calli but you cann't even make Calli out in most of the duet sections.
I don't know if this is because they were rushing to get it out as soon as possible and the mixer got fucked over because of it and/or they couldn't redo parts. But someone clearly either didn't mix with the original song in mind or this song was meant to favor Kiara.
Either way, if a fan were to get hold of the BGM and individual vocal parts they could probably make it sound 100x better if they know what their doing

Original for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okJ9Vk6owG8

>>31536368
h-hot

>>31553162
She has worked hard for years. She basically risked it all to restart her whole life. Ina has lived in the comfort of her home her whole life.

>>31553301
Damn, that's a fine artwork

honest question, do you think it will take for youtube too long to give to mori the mel or choco treatment for her model showing booba and shadowbanning her, making her rely on a costume to avoid being shadowbanned?

>>31565377
She’s fine honestly. Her boobs are literally just there, they play like zero part in her stream. I would be pretty surprised if anything happened to her on that front.

I'll never forgive her for embarrassing herself and the deadbeats by doing that Atlus stream.

>>31569542
Implying she's capable of feeling any embarrassment.

>>31572425
Or us for that matter.

The THHK shittalking her in one of the recent songs is all just friendly banter right?

>>31573686
She retweeted and liked a bunch of his stuff, so yes. It wasn't even a diss track unless you project super hard. It was marveling that he's getting outdone by someone who used to look up to him.

>>31573921
Ah, alright.

Dumb whigger. I’d like her so much more if she cut the hood jogger act.

Her DD song is coming out this month?

>>31569542
That was high kino, pleb.

>>31580840
Correct.
Be there, get hyped.

>>31549655
More like 24, if she wasn't lying on her old DD website. The screenshot is still on her DD twitter, you just have to scroll back long enough.

So is mori going to get another song or cover where she sings? I'm afraid of cover pushing her as the rapper holo making her rap in all her collabs even though her singing voice is underrated. I get that she's the one pushing the rap thing but that doesn't mean she shouldn't sing at all. I even like her voice better than kiara

Mori's rap is ruining Watame's song. F u Mori.

>>31592550
MORI WORLDWIDE

Are you faggots behaving here?

>>31592770
I still find it funny she chose the shotgun in the A Way Out collab. Not because of that, but because Kiara chose the SMG, and that was the worst possible combination of guns they could've picked. Those two have zero gun sense.

>>31532249
Not an original song, but I really like this cover
https://youtu.be/qyjRoetjo6A

>>31518316
>>31518670
>>31519345
Threadly reminder that Mori Calliope went poo-poo live on stream.

>>31594452
I like this one too, thanks for sharing. It’s still kind of amazing to me how she made these songs before debuting.

>>31594452
>it ends with ”peace”

>>31592529
Well we would've gotten her singing voice in the TakaMori song, but the mixer only had a week to do his job and of course fucked it up.
As for another song or cover that's up to her I just hope Cover doesn't screw her over again.

>>31532249
Love this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQT5FMXsHlI

>>31534197
qt

>>31606037
That's a really good one.

>>31606037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRG3GG7fPEk

I just went through this EP after hearing this song. I think my favorite one is that one, Hazy Skyscraper.

I get that holotards are all reddit but why do you like this fat, coalburning whigger so much?

>>31556963
The funny thing is that she actually looks like this.

>>31607085
beceause she's /ourboy/

I know it's Mori / Kiara shtick for Kiara to stick to Mori, but I think Mori will miss Kiara more than Kiara will miss Mori. It seems like Mori has tons of stuff to do that will keep her busy, but if Kiara was being truthful, then Mori really will have very little friends in Japan left.

>>31607085
>coalburning whigger
She's a giant weeb with yellow fetish for Japanese manlets. How does that make her a coalburner in any way?

>>31607229
The mental gymnastics

>>31607219
You're probably correct.
>if Kiara was being truthful, then Mori really will have very little friends in Japan left.
I believe it. She must have some friends but it will will be tough for her. She has dead beats to cheer her up though. Just hope that we won't be her only source of cheerfulness and human interaction.

>>31607085
>coalburning
>>>/pol/

>>31607219
yeah I feel this too, she's obviously a bit socially awkward and being a foreigner doesn't help.
Maybe she'll make friends with a senpai or two! Ganbatte mori-chan

>>31608858
at least we know that she managed to make a friendship with korone or at the very least getting to know each other's tastes before they made the collab.

>>31608668
You ignoring her being called a fat whigger but getting offended at her being called a coalburner is pretty telling

>>31607085
She's pretty thin in recent photos.

>>31607085
Wait, she’s a bbw?
Pics plz.

>>31611377
Begone architect, she got /fit/

>>31611555
Cope

>>31611377
Not bbw just overweight>>31534197

she's thin. Maybe fluctuates a bit. Has big tiddy by jap standards. She tends to wear baggy clothing. Now begone rrats and doxfags.

>>31612132
You'd think retards would learn after this >>31496560 post proving that she's thin by just looking at the date of when the video was taken vs when the pictures were

>>31519999
>This is the content Mori wants to make
This is the content she thought would sell. The concept sounds neat, but it's blatantly obvious how forced it is. If they were actually close and had good chemistry then people wouldn't have as many issues with it.

>>31613127
>>31612132
>>31611914
Damn, I was hoping she had a big sexy belly

>>31613127
Nah, this is one of those things I wouldn't put on Mori. At least, not totally. Kiara has been the one pushing it since day 1 and it wasn't until recently that I understood why; other than Pekora, Kiara only ever watches/watched clips of the other girls, and maybe the occasional full stream VOD here and there. To her, all the shipping nonsense she pushes, that's a big part of Hololive, because that's the type of image clippers project. They pigeonhole the talents into certain roles or aspects of their personality. So, for her, who wants so desperately to be part of Hololive, it makes sense for her to keep pushing it, because that's what she understands Hololive to be. It's not the money, it's someone trying to hard to fit in and do what her senpais did.

>>31612961
Amerimutts actually think that this is thin holy shit

mori is actually just a cinnamon roll

Anyone here followed her from her dd days? First time I knew her was from this song https://youtu.be/4U8MvhH6GnA
Glad she's doing better now. I once managed to catch her birthday livestream, anyone archived that?

>>31612961
She's so cute!

How much do y'all think she puts up a character during her streams? I can't really put my finger on it, but something seems a little more genuine than other vtubers.

>>31617205
Comparing her to others is pointless tribalistic shitflinging, but either she has been keeping up kayfabe for almost a decade from when she was literally no one, or it's just her with a thin veneer of Underworld terminology. One of those is much more likely.

>>31617205
>How much do y'all think she puts up a character during her streams?
Practically none at all. She substitutes terms or phrases (Death-sensei for an older authority figure, reaper school for college, etc) and sometimes brings up the fact that her character has lived since forever. Everything else about her personality, both good and bad, is just her being who she is. That's why I like her.

>>31617205
I think everyone believes some form of this to some extent for their respective favorite.

So, being aware of that bias, I'll just say I like whatever character she is on stream, whether it's her "real self" or just a streaming persona.

>>31614349
Not Americans, Architects...

Wtt you guys told me she was N4 but she used a lot of kanjis not from N4 on her JP account

>>31618064
She's entirely self taught, so she has a complete mix of high level concepts and basic level mistakes as per her tutor.

>>31615686
Shut up! Calliope Mori is cool and badass and would kick your ass if she heard you saying that!

>>31615686
Maybe, but she could also absolutely lay me out.
And that's hot as fuck.

>>31618428
Post the fucking schedule, Mori, or just admit you're canceling the wine party. I want to hear you gush about FES now you've actually seen it.

>>31618519
we are entering in another mori doesnt care about hololive timeloop right?

>>31619716
No, this time it's "Mori doesn't care about her fans and would rather watch hololive instead", since you have a couple guys going through AWS (Ame Withdrawal Syndrome).

>>31619716
It's not even about that, I just wish she had tweeted out the new times for her delayed streams instead of just posting that she was going to watch the new outfit debuts and then go to sleep. If she had time for one then she had time to do the other. It's been 18 hours now.

>>31619716
I don't care if she cancels the stream, but 'I'll post a new schedule within the day' was much more definitive then the normal Mori promise and she normally lives up to those so I'm just shitposting. If my biggest complaint in a week is that, I'm pretty happy.

>>31619716
yeah, I agree with >>31619956
Like, calling off plans and moving streams is fine, but the lack of communication in this regard is kind of frustrating.

>>31620060
She's going to post the schedule when she's figured it out. In all honesty, she's probably still working the schedule out.

>>31617205
She's a confirmed Chuuni but puts an emphasis on being true to herself (VERITAS), do with that as you will.

>>31620424
just asking, isnt she still in that reaper reset in which she is supposed to get new bgm and that kind of stuff? cuz that might be a reason why not being active and just gave that tweet of the costumes to show signs of life.

>>31519999
check em

>>31519999
Check em

>>31522634
>>31522720
>>31522512

If found, let us know.

https://youtu.be/tg1TuStvrAk
Mori *cough* please *coughcough*

>>31621995
I don't get it...

I was reading the general and someone brought up a point that deadbeats would be okay with Mori taking two weeks off and be happy about it.
I think this is definitely an exaggeration, I would miss our boy's content for sure, but I also do feel like I would be okay with it more so than I think teammates or chums, or whatever, would be.
I think deadbeats are aware that Mori does literally stream less than the rest of her genmates, even though I also feel like there's not a lack of content comparatively to others.
Is there some truth to it, that deadbeats are more forgiving / accepting of these things?

>>31624834
Probably. We already had the slow week in November and weren't melting down in the threads like Teammates do whenever Ame isn't around for more then 24 hours.

Personally, I think it's because she does attract the older crowd who're into her for her music foremost and the parasocial thing second, if not at all. There was also the many filterings that have removed the people who'd get crazy upset, though the thread last night still shows that there are a few around.

>>31624834
Yeah, sort of.
For me, I realize that for Mori, streaming videogames really isn't the main draw, and that it's more of an outlet for her to produce music, which is fine. I can go without a stream for a while, cause I know she's probably working on something else for me to enjoy.
cant wait for her to continue blasphemous though

>>31624834
I was and I'm starting to not be. I dealt with September and her streams getting derailed because she was overwhelmed by the support, I could forgive that because she went from nobody to somebody practically overnight. I dealt with October and her taking a week off to work on freelance shit, I forgave that because I assumed she would learn her lesson and not do it again, which in hindsight was stupid of me considering she's going to go and do it again now. I dealt with November and her not releasing any music whatsoever because the arrange was out of her hands, only to find out that she didn't even record her vocal for it until recently. December was almost the first time where I could say she had a perfect month, and then she went and botched it right at the finish line.

Every month feels like two steps forward and followed by one huge step back. It's infuriating. All of her problems have such easy solutions and it's as if she goes out of her way to just not fix them, if not outright make them worse. Every time she gets down on herself and talks about how she knows X is a problem I have to resist the urge to roll my eyes because X, whatever X is, has been a problem since she first debuted and yet she hasn't taken any steps to correct it. No wonder she loves Fight Club; self-improvement is masturbation, you fucking got that right.

>>31624834
in a sense yes, because there was also the fact that mori worked herself to death before with both the freelance and scythe swinging lessons, without counting also the week off she took to finish her moving. Right now she is making her turn to full time so we should be more strict when it comes to the lack of content in the situations where there arent any advices, like when she said about the schedule coming yesterday when it didnt ended up happening for example

>>31624834
Part of the reason why I've been frequenting these threads is because I've become tired of the way the global treats content. I've become tired of constantly thinking about when the next stream is going to be, constantly judging, constantly going into the thread and checking it, constantly posting and reading posts about vtubers, constantly having to be "informed" about what happened in every single stream, every tweet, and so on and on.

It wasn't healthy for me, and I think there's others for whom it isn't healthy either. Like I said in one of these threads before, the global has an "always keep it going" mentality which is something I've seen in generals before. It leads to people being constantly confrontational or extreme. It's part of the bane of being in an (overwhelmingly) anonymous imageboard wherein every individual, somehow, has to answer to be on the same level of everyone else combined when it comes to what they know about a topic.

I suspect there's plenty of people in the global that got into vtubers mostly with EN, and there's also plenty of people there who don't know how to use 4chan as something that isn't a chat room, to paraphrase moot. Of course this is assumption on my part, there ought to be plenty of people who aren't like that; but even still, it doesn't mean they will act upon it, or that they can. In my case, like I said, I've gotten tired of all that. There was a time when I followed one or two smaller vtubers, and I caught their streams spontaneously. I didn't care to discuss them anywhere. I didn't have expectations of what a vtuber is or should be and I just naturally enjoyed their content. I didn't really get into their lives, I didn't care to. I didn't have to care about all the terms and concepts that I've learned since coming to /jp/, or identifying myself as part of X fanbase.

That's not to say Mori isn't important to me. She means more to me than most people have in my life. But I like her because she I enjoyed her when I first saw her; I didn't get into Mori because I was looking into the next vtuber. hololive didn't get me into Mori; Mori got me into hololive. I didn't get into her expecting or wanting it to absorb my life; if anything, I'd like to get the hell away from this place as fast as possible, like everyone always says they do. But I've just grown tired of keeping up the "hype", because originally it wasn't what got me here. I'd rather have things happen as they will, spontaneously, as they once did.

>>31624834
> Mori taking two weeks off
I've waited 2 months for Mori content before and will have waited 6 months for roommate content if she keeps her promise this time.
Given the chance I would do it all over again.

As for deadbeats?
Technically yes,
I think it's within everyone's ability to be forgiving about something when provided with ample apology or justification unless they're a narcissist, asshole, or schizo.
Until this year Mori was only able to stream and making music in her off-time. There's also the fact that she's more of an artist & musician than a streamer and was overworking herself to make general content and do art/music projects as a Hololive talent.
These points were oftentimes taken into account when justifying procrastination, breaks, tiredness, skipped streams, etc.

tl;dr:
deadbeats justify a lot of shit because they feel bad

>>31518670
based

I really love these Mori threads. These are the least schizo threads I've posted in in a while.

>>31518316
fuck you, she killed DOOM

>>31628996
This is me, but with better wine.

>>31631845
Tits or GTFO.

>>31607085
Real hololive fan here, we do not support the BLM/Antifa/Transrights EN girls but we don't want to cause drama that would hurt the real idols so we just want Yagoo to take responsibility and graduate with the EN girls.

>>31632061
ogey rrat

>>31632061
None of the girls are sjws so it’s fine. Cover actually didn’t fuck up this time.

>>31635332
>None of the girls are sjws
This is a lie.

>>31635332
All of them support BLM and trans rights.

Please do not reply, he's been making the rounds:
>>31616454

>>31635359
I know this is true for Kiara, Mori and Ame but Gura and Ina too?

>>31635861
And you gonna believe strangers on fucking 4chan of all places?

>>31635995
4chan is my friend and my friends are my power.

>>31624834
She already streams more than I expected her to back in September. I never once complained about her cutting streams short due to recordings or Japanese lessons. I wouldn't compain if she decided to skip a stream or two because she's in a mood. I wouldn't mind a two week break if she needs to rest or work on something in peace. I can understand, and I don't want her to kill herself trying to stream when she is in no conidtion to.

My issue is I am getting increasingly frustrated by things being so half-assed. As >>31625425 have said, many of the hiccups are not necessary at all. They are caused by Mori's brain problems and she herself acknowledges as much. Then proceeds not to actually do anything about it. I am going to wait and see if she she will figure it out at some point, but I'm not going to pretend that it's a smooth sailing just to be nice on 4chan of all places.

>>31624834
The way I see it is that every Mori stream is a treat. I don't expect her to do shit. She doesn't owe us anything in principle. I watch her voluntarily because I enjoy her stuff. I don't care about cover quotas even if she's forced to care about them. I care about her word. If she says she's going to stream Balsphemous then I expect Blasphemous. If she can't make it then I expect an explanation. I'm willing to forgive right about anything she does because I believe she has good intentions and tries very hard to make the hololive thing work. But we probably should hold her accountable for underperforming if she does. Especially now that she's full-time. She wouldn't want us to tolerate her underperforming. She has too much pride for that. She wouldn't want to tolerate that of herself either. So even If I'm willing to forgive a lot of stuff and people may agree with me, we should still hold her accountable.

>>31628028
>Part of the reason... they know about a topic.
Same. It becomes obsessive and unhealty and starts taking up more time than actually watching streams. I've mostly stopped going to global. Last time I went was after the Takamori A Way Out collab to find the Mori Banshbody talks about the kazoo sound but have you heard her fucking screams from the depths of the underworld? Her best screams by far. Fucking hilarious.

>That's not to say Mori isn't important to me. She means more to me than most people have in my life. But I like her because she I enjoyed her when I first saw her; I didn't get into Mori because I was looking into the next vtuber. hololive didn't get me into Mori; Mori got me into hololive. I didn't get into her expecting or wanting it to absorb my life

Every word here is true for me as well. She means a lot to me and she was the one who got me into hololive. Got very into it but it's too much. I've had to detach from it. It will consume your life and I can't allow that to happen. I just watch Mori at this point and the occasional Kiara and of course some collabs. I am grateful that hololive made me discover her. Even if she quits hololive, DD has gained a follower.

So, comments under most of her roommates songs got turned off, you think she got tired with retards flexing with their 'la forbidden knowledge'?

>>31636844
Youtube topic comments are always turned off.

>>31636721
It's crazy you even have to explain this.
>You have to have no opinion and support your idol like a tribal to the death anon.
>Any qualms or concerns are the equivalent of treason and you must be publicly shamed.
>I'm not going to pretend that it's a smooth sailing just to be nice on 4chan of all places.
NOOO! ANON YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ONE ID GIRL COMES TO 4CHAN SO THEY ALL DOO NOOOO!

>>31636844
To be fair comments are only turned off for auto generated videos.

Wouldn't be surprised if she got tired of it though. I would be. Everytime I listen to one of her songs there are some faggots flexing their secret club knowledge. Wouldn't be a big nuisance if those comment didn't get enough likes to get boosted in the comment sections. Doubt she would actually turn off comment sections on her main videos though. She likes fan interaction too much.

>>31636724
>It will consume your life and I can't allow that to happen.
Exactly. I want to get better, not worse. I want to be someone she'd be proud of to have as a fan.

>>31637012
>>31637148
They're all on her personal channel though, not a YT-generated topic channel.

>>31637348
Preach it!

>>31636092
Books should be your friends. Also clean your room.

>>31637348
>I want to be someone she'd be proud of to have as a fan.
I feel legitimately bad for any fan of Mori or Kiari who is a white guy thinking this.

>>31636721
Aren't you guys making this into a bigger deal than it is? You've been writing walls of text for like two days now. She's done what, miss a couple streams?

I feel like you guys are going through something I already dealt with 2 months ago. This is how she is. She's not going to change if you tell her she has to try harder and be better. That's already her solution to every problem in her life.

What she needs to do is accommodate to her current situation. Let her make some mistakes, let her get into the groove. Stop trying to correct her.

>>31637530
Yes, it's on her channel. No it's still auto-generated. I will admit this is the first time I've seen auto-generated videos on an official channel instea of a topic channel.

>>31637763
This. Just give her money and never discuss your feelings, hide them deep inside and listen to Mori.
This is honestly disgusting to see fans have expectations of their idol and we need to remove this form of male patriarchy.

>>31637796
Laying it on a bit too thick, my man.

It’s so funny reading Calli’s roommate bragging about her japanese skills on twitter after that NY collab.

>>31637763
It's you who are making our comments into a bigger deal than they are. We are anonymous people on 4chinz, not her manager.
I honestly don't even care all that much about the NY streams. What got to me was exactly her talking about her workflow almost as if she was reading a two months old post from here word for word in the T3 stream. If she wasn't willing to acknowledge the issues then I would agree to think that it's just how she is. If the problem is just fixing the issues, then I will continue to call her out as long as she doesn't commit to it. That's what I would want people to do for myself.

>>31637970
I've never seen her brag, only make jokes about how she has some very high level concepts down while making baby tier mistakes elsewhere.

>>31638016
>It's you who are making our comments into a bigger deal than they are.
Excuse me, what? I'm not the one with the problem here.

>We are anonymous people on 4chinz, not her manager.
>T3
>I will continue to call her out
Don't you find these statements slightly contradictory?

>>31638285
This. Never criticise, never say your thoughts just give her your money with no expectations and never voice any concerns.

>>31638285
>I'm not the one with the problem here.
But you keep posting about your problem with my posts? Why don't you just accept that it's how I am? :^}
>Don't you find these statements slightly contradictory?
Did I post any of this outside of 4chan?

>>31638355
>Why don't you just accept that it's how I am?
I do, Anon.

>Did I post any of this outside of 4chan?
How could I know?

I don't have bad intentions writing this and this may be an old rrat but I only just realised. She has been rapping for a while before starting hololive. Since joining hololive her first Mori album became number one on itunes and she had her first music video reach 10 mil views. She is clearly very talented and hard working. That's probably why cover hired her. But a white girl rapping in english and japanese in japan behind a chuuni character while basically completely independant... I love her stuff so I'm not shittalking her but those are some serious debuffs. Do you guys think she feels like she sold out by joining hololive? I believe she said some things about this before but I don't remember. Cover definitely gave her a boost but she clearly always had the potential.

>>31638102
Anon, that’s called humblebragging.

>>31638583
It's only humblebragging if you're actually proud, and given how much she tries to avoid using Japanese and says she can't speak it, it's much more likely she's just shitting on herself like normal.

>>31638442
>How could I know?
For one, nobody outside 4chan even whines about it.

>>31638559
She's making the music she wants to make, and has ultimate control over what she does for stream content. Satanic Slots is also still there if she has an idea that she can't get approved through Cover. Selling out is when you gut your soul to make money, and given how personal Cursed Nights was, that's not the case.

>>31638741
...so?

>>31606988
my man
some of the bits in it hit aggrssively close to home for me

>>31638839
So it couldn't be me whining about it outside 4chan. Since there are no people whining about it outside 4chan and all.
Again, it's you who are making our posts into a bigger deal than they are. I am not shitting up comment sections under her videos (although sometimes I really wish to go on a "kys" posting spree under some retarded comments), I am not sending angry letters to Cover, and I am not amassing a pitchfork mob to get her graduated. All I do is talk shit about her self-admitted flaws on an anonymous imageboard known for much worse things. Take it easy.

>>31593298
tbf it barely matters
if you wnana know what is secretly the best gun in that game it's as dumb as it sounds: spamming roll into melee. The range and iframes are insane. also works really well in the last part of the pvp fight

>>31638774
We should be seeing DD content in the future now that she actually has time. It's great that she can spend more time making music now because that's what she loves doing. Will admit that I haven't heard about Satanic Slots yet. Was this mentioned in a member stream or somewhere else entirely?

It's no secret that she's better off financially now than before hololive but I hope she will make more songs like Cursed Nights. It has become my favorite Mori song. She might focus on DD for personal songs and keep Mori songs Mori related. But then again all of her Mori songs have had references and double meanings, as is characteristic of her. I think she will upload more personal songs as Mori. I looking forward to her future stuff and I don't think she's a sell-out. If anything she's finally getting the recognition she deserves.

>>31639368
The thing about Raum Roulette is just the obvious train of thought as well as the fact she's going to be releasing the cover that they couldn't get permissions for on that channel instead.

>that recent OP
do deadbeats really?

>>31639108
>Again, it's you who are making our posts into a bigger deal than they are.
How? By not agreeing with you? Excuse me, but I'm not the getting passive-aggressive here.

>I am not shitting up comment sections under her videos (although sometimes I really wish to go on a "kys" posting spree under some retarded comments), I am not sending angry letters to Cover, and I am not amassing a pitchfork mob to get her graduated.
Where did I say, or even imply, you were doing anything of the kind?

In fact, you know what, you could do that. Go call her a dumb bitch to her face on the T3 stream. It could have the worst of all possible outcome, and the result would be... losing an anime girl singing and playing videogames.

Anon, we're getting into a fight over the *weekly* performance of an anime girl streamer. Do you understand how inane this shit is?

>>31639641
I would say that cover should be more clear with their permissions for everybody's sake. But we are talking about cover. Her work shouldn't go to waste.

>>31639879
>How? By not agreeing with you?
By thinking that they are a bigger deal than what they are? I am not following at this point.
>Where did I say, or even imply, you were doing anything of the kind?
What else am I supposed to assume with your treating it like I took a shit into your bowl?
>Anon, we're getting into a fight over the *weekly* performance of an anime girl streamer.
I do not care about *weekly* performance of an anime girl streamer. I repeat, my issue is I am getting increasingly frustrated by things being so half-assed. Not this week, but overall. Not when it comes to streams, but when it comes to her music as well. Her not being able to manage all her projects makes the quality of everything suffer. I already accepted it as a given for some time now, but she talked about it herself less than a fucking week ago so I'm not going to pretent it's not an issue. Please read the reply chain before you @ me again.

>>31640180
>I repeat, my issue is I am getting increasingly frustrated by things being so half-assed. Not this week, but overall. Not when it comes to streams, but when it comes to her music as well. Her not being able to manage all her projects makes the quality of everything suffer. I already accepted it as a given for some time now, but she talked about it herself less than a fucking week ago so I'm not going to pretent it's not an issue.
Not the other guy but this seems like a fair complaint. Give it a couple of weeks however. Her scythe swinging is over now so she doesn't have any excuses to underperform anymore. I don't personally mind too much but I don't want to see our boy underperforming either. Give it some time. It's still to early to tell for sure if it was lack of time or consistent character flaws. Even though there might be some hints that it might be the latter. We'll see. I still believe in our boy, despite her flaws.

>>31640561
>I am going to wait and see if she she will figure it out at some point, but I'm not going to pretend that it's a smooth sailing just to be nice on 4chan of all places.

>>31640808
Fair enough

>>31640180
>I am not following at this point.
I mean, like I said I've seen you guys post these same complaints over two days. Now I don't know if it was specifically you, or you just happened to have the exact same problem as someone else, but you do seem, and admit to at least a degree, that you are worked up about it.

>What else am I supposed to assume with your treating it like I took a shit into your bowl?
Where did I do that?

>Please read the reply chain before you @ me again.
Please read my first reply. I said you calling her out or whatever isn't going to work. She already knows whatever you want to tell her. She already knows she's overpromising. Her workflow is (or was) unsustainable. No, no amount of telling her either of these things is going to change how she works. She's been like this for years. She doesn't even know exactly what she's doing right now, and for that matter I doubt either of us knows either.

And no, I'm not telling you to be "nice", but being frank for a moment (and here I am the one with a problem, yes), I've just about had it with people trying to be "real" here. Not because I can't take it, I've taken it just fine for quite a while. But because I can't take it seriously anymore. This entire site is anal about everything no matter where you go. There's only so much venting I can go through before it stops having any kind of effect, and starts coming off as impotent. I just want some discussions where I can come off actually winning instead of thread after thread of complaints for months on end.

>>31642172
>but you do seem, and admit to at least a degree, that you are worked up about it.
If it's about recent streams and the schedule then I don't really care about those. She could have been less cryptic with the whole thing, but I don't mind her resting on the New Year.

>Where did I do that?
Assuming that me being a T3 has anything to do with my whining here. I'm just posting on 4chan. It's not a big deal and I don't see why you would think it is. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding somewhere.

>I said you calling her out or whatever isn't going to work.
I do not expect it to work. I just do it because I want to. I was replying to a question whether deadbeats are fine with Mori taking a break. The gist is, I am fine with it if it's for a good a reason and I feel irritated if it's because she went full retard again. Well, her taking a break for retarded reasons would be better than her streaming when she shouldn't, but it's still frustrating.

Being like this for (supposedly) years isn't saying much. Her environment, expectations placed on her, and opportunities available to her were very different. I've seen worse people get their shit together.

>I just want some discussions where I can come off actually winning instead of thread after thread of complaints for months on end.
What exactly are you planning to win by posting here?

>>31642172
>>31643521
not sure if i'm currently following the most sensible or retarded argument ever

its here lads

Is it weird that I really like Mori as a person, but find her kinda boring as a streamer?

>>31650385
Not really, I feel kind of the same way, but that's kind of what I look for if I'm watching streams for multiple hours. Guras or Kiara's constant-high energy can be kind of exhausting in large doses, Mori strikes a good balance IMO that makes her a lot more pleasant to watch as background noise.

>>31650385
No, a lot of DeadBeats would probably agree with you.
Her main appeal is her as a person and the music and art she creates. She pushes herself to stream and do so with a greater variety mainly for her fans and because that's what she thinks is expected of Hololive Talents.
I do think her streams will get more entertaining as her becomes her main job and not her side-job.

>>31624834
General turned to /gurame/ general a long time ago. They always set ame or gura as the golden standard for vtubing. I agree that they're great at their kind of streaming but it's just not for me. But then again it might also be that I'm busy with work and doing my reps that somehow mori's streams works as a reward for the end of the day for me. I don't have time to watch holos for an entire day. I sometimes wonder how hardcore fans do it though

>>31650385
Her zatsudans are great though. I think she lacks the brain capacity to talk while playing games. I'm amazed at how kiara is able to keep a long conversation going while playing jrpgs. She might actually be smarter than she let on

>>31650385
I like her as a person, streamer and artist. But generally you shouldn't expect super high energy streams from her. She's relatively reserved for the most part. I love when she rages or starts laughing her ass off at something ridiculous. Other than those parts, her streams are mostly relaxing but not too low energy. Ina's streams are a bit too low energy for me. Mori has the right balance imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAwRF7qC1cg

Mori is so cringy.

>>31649992
>New Year's celebration stream
>1/3

>>31651236
Kiara always struck me as the woody Allen neurotic type. Miss the forest for the trees type of thing. Smart person, lacks some common sense.

>>31637763
This isn't about the two streams she might as well have canceled (one of which she still hasn't bothered to announce whether or not she's rescheduling, by the way), it's about what the streams represent; an inability for Mori to actually keep her word. If she's not going to learn to keep her promises then she should stop making them, end of story. Stop telling me you're going to do something and then not doing it. Stop telling me to look forward to things in the future only for the future to arrive and now you're forced to unfortunately announce that it's not happening. Understand the fact that you're not some small-time indie anymore, you're in the big leagues with hundreds of thousands of fans with expectations that you need to at least try to meet. If I wasn't paying $25 a month I would've gotten a grand total of 3 whole streams this week, and yet it's specifically because I only got 3 streams that it makes me consider canceling that membership. I shouldn't have to pay money to get a half-passable schedule out of her. Let her make some mistakes? She's made these same exact mistakes since she debuted. It's been four months already, how much longer should I be expected to wait?

>>31632061
>>31635359
How do we uncuck hololive EN

Also, we didn’t have to worry about this shit when /jp/ was the Touhou Project board.

>>31643521
>If it's about recent streams and the schedule then I don't really care about those.
It would probably be better if it was about the recent schedule. As it is, if I understood you correctly, you've had a problem with this for four months. Getting invested in the career of some girl over the other side of the world, caring about her inner workings... doesn't it strike you as kind of insane?

>Assuming that me being a T3 has anything to do with my whining here.
It wasn't even about that. I was actually asking you. Because if you think you can go on the member streams and deal with it directly, why are you posting here? And if you think posting here is pointless and will go nowhere, why are you even doing it?

See this
>I'm just posting on 4chan. It's not a big deal and I don't see why you would think it is.
is the bigger problem. You guys always say this, then you wonder why discussion is terrible. I've seen it happen so many times. And I don't even believe you mean it when you say that. Because otherwise I wouldn't see other people complain about things going bad over the years. At the end of the day, people always hide by saying "it doesn't matter". I don't know how many hours, daily or total, you can spend on a place only to say "it doesn't matter" to you and be honest.

As for myself, I've never had to pretend I'm nice. As a base I am nice, but even then, I never saw any benefit to being pissed at whatever I was getting into. In the end, I can count the times 4chan has managed to change my opinion on a subject with one hand. And I wish those times far outnumbered the times where it was all just pointless secondhand frustration, but they don't; I wish I'd felt I got caught completely naked many more times than I felt I was talking to a wall, but it's not even close. Well, but at least I was talking to something then... the times I did try to be constructive I would get ignored, or told I'm crazy, or that I care too much (ironic, on a hobbyist site where everyone's a critic), even those times when it turned out I was right all along, even the times I managed to change the public opinion all by myself.

In the end all I got was knowing what buttons not to push to not upset the score of faceless dudes who'd turn around and weep about their loneliness when the room's atmosphere gives them a chance. And believe me, it's very easy to do, because those pressure points are on display 24/7.

And really, I don't mean to take it on you personally, I really don't. But Anon, it's impossible for me to see your comment, all the comments complaining, as something other than worthless at this point, when you've been doing this exact same thing collectively for four months. You coming here, me coming here, anyone coming here: it's all pointless, on any level, so why are we still here, in any capacity?

>What exactly are you planning to win by posting here?
That's what I'd like you to tell me.

Me? Well... Maybe just waiting for that "perfect month" that other guy was talking about; but I know to expect better, so maybe I should be waiting for a "perfect week", or better yet a "perfect day".

>>31653195
It's funny she even brought this up during her October membership stream that she's aware that she's not an indie anymore, but yet she's still making the same mistakes.
https://youtu.be/igEBxNJf9zg?t=998

>>31653659
I'm aware, that's why I said it. She constantly acknowledges her problems and then just doesn't fucking fix them.

>>31653195
>It's been four months already, how much longer should I be expected to wait?
You'll have to wait until she learns what her current limits and capabilities are in her situation. Like I said two times already, getting angry at her isn't going to teach her that.

Until then, unmember her if you feel you should. Her membership model was the single biggest mistake she's made so far, so I don't know why you think using it the way you is good for either of you.

>>31654689
Because I expected, at some point, she'd wake up and start taking things seriously.
>You'll have to wait until she learns what her current limits and capabilities are in her situation.
She was supposed to have learned that already when she stupidly tried to take on three jobs at once. Even said that she did and learned that she can't do everything at once. How many times does she need to learn the exact same lesson before it sticks? This isn't anger, it's growing disappointment.

>>31653767
I mean, how would she exactly fix those issues?

At least two times now we had streams forcibly canceled/rescheduled due to TakaMori related content.
It's obvious that her "scythe swinging" job has been taking up most of her time and is very exhausting for her.
She made a song talking about how she's getting overworked and is tired all the time
She talked about how she was spending less time making art and music than she was streaming and that it was burning her out.

In my opinion, she couldn't start making any fixes until she quit her "scythe swinging job", despite the domino effect created by the recent TakaMori stream I think she's has been made some great improvements this week alone.

I'm frustrated too, but really she just started full time, so she now has to learn to properly balance her roommates activities with Mori's and self care. combined with the usual holidays shit and the planned "new years reset" I'm not screaming mad, I expected a stream or two to slip.
My hope for this coming week, now that she has new equipment, and new visuals and such she will start fresh and hit her stride finally. Hopefully.
Because the others have started the year very strong...
Ganbatte Mori-chan

>>31654803
>I expected, at some point, she'd wake up and start taking things seriously.
I'm repeating myself yet again, but it's just the opposite. Whatever problems she has spring from her trying to deliver on her expectations or the expectations she gives others. She needs to stick to what she knows she can reliably do.

And really, you should stop thinking of this as a matter of life-and-death. The vtuber craze wasn't on this scale just a year ago.

>>31655424
>Whatever problems she has spring from her trying to deliver on her expectations or the expectations she gives others. She needs to stick to what she knows she can reliably do.
That is literally paraphrasing what I already said.
>If she's not going to learn to keep her promises then she should stop making them, end of story. Stop telling me you're going to do something and then not doing it. Stop telling me to look forward to things in the future only for the future to arrive and now you're forced to unfortunately announce that it's not happening.
You keep acting like we're saying two different things and yet, somehow, I'm the one that's not getting it.

>>31656455
What I'm is that it's a matter of her mentality. I don't want to start psychoanalyzing, but she's had a mentality where she's had to give it "more than her all". She makes those promises as a way to keep pushing herself. What she needs to do is not to make promises or not -- she needs to stop pushing herself. Her taking it "seriously" is yet another way for her to do that.

>>31649992
Cool, I can go to sleep happy.

>>31518670
t. shota

>>31590567
Cute

>>31532249
Are you guys actually listen to this stuff? Because i swear to god, this shit sounds like Disney Rap.

>>31664794
You must mean the production. I'm guessing you don't listen to any type of Japanese music then.

>>31664794
It's great. What're you talking about?

>>31532249
For me it's the secret K's collab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYTtTZBPUs

>>31673228
thanks for the tip.

>>31673228
>secret
More like typical shitty Jap shit where the song isn't officially uploaded or streaming anywhere and unofficial uploads eventually get nuked, so you technically have to buy the dudes entire album and pray to god it's a digital copy and you don't have to pay for the JP shipping costs on top of it.

>>31518316

Schedule out, full week streaming, looks pretty busy

>>31682243
Not as busy as you'd think considering she's doing it full time now.

>>31682663
A stream everyday of the week except a day off on the 8th. 2 days with 2 streams. 2 are collabs, 1 is a "until I beat it" and a double feature watchalong.
IF she keeps the streams as scheduled, then I'd be pretty satisfied, hopefully more will come next week.
Hopefully the new year "reset" will bare dorky fruit

>>31682663
>Not as busy
Do you want her to be Amelia or something?

>>31684129
No. I want her to be the Mori that Mori's always wanted to be.
If it wasn't obvious, she isn't going to be puting all her time into streaming content, she'll also be drawing and making music behind the scenes.

>>31684426
>I want her to be the Mori that Mori's always wanted to be.
What?

She's not a bad rapper for a white girl, honestly.

>>31684729
The Google algorithm being able to pick up get all of the lyrics to Godzilla from her rap is pretty impressive desu, and I think she's still doing it sitting down like a retard since she hasn't mentioned standing up.

>>31673228
Thank you for this. Didn't know about this song. One of my new favorites. It's so good

Persona 3 when deadcels?

>>31620512
>Chunni
I never thought about it, but that might be the perfect way to describe her.

>>31653264
Well, since we are being dramatic.

I am fully aware that I am unreasonable and selfish.

I want Mori to have fun. I want Mori to make friends. I want Mori to improve her Japanese. I want Mori to find her footing as an entertainer. I want Mori to improve as an artist and an animator. I want Mori to improve as a rapper and a singer. I want Mori to produce music she wants to produce. I want Cover to release Mori merch. I want Mori to have a 3D debut. I want Mori to have a sololive. I want Mori to crush milestone after milestone. I want Mori to overcome her inner demons. I want Mori to achieve her dreams. And I want to witness the hard work that leads to it all. Helps with keeping my faith in humanity afloat.

I don't want Mori to gush about men because the same faulty wiring in my brain that makes me invested also hurts me when she does, even though I realize it doesn't really matter. I don't want Mori to try to please the "say the line, monkey" crowd because it hurts me to see my oshi being degraded like that, even though I realize I can just skip the parts I don't like.

That's about it. I am an idolfag, unironic and unapologetic. Fuck whoever is not and their peer pressure. If it's insane then I don't care about being sane. I'm not taking my meds. What are you going to do about it? Come to take me and millions of Japanese people including many Hololive members away to the funny farm?

>Because if you think you can go on the member streams and deal with it directly, why are you posting here?
Because my reeeing doesn't belong on other venues. I am not her manager. I am not her friend. It's not my role to "deal with it" at all, let alone "directly". My expectations are my own, Mori doesn't owe me anything. There would be no end to it if every fag who thinks he knows better started dropping his very valuable thoughts on her directly. I just want to whine pointlessly because sometimes I feel like whining on 4chan when I'm frustrated. I have plenty of opportunities to show off my stoicism and goal orientation elsewhere.

>only to say "it doesn't matter" to you
I didn't say it doesn't matter to me. I said it's not a big deal because it doesn't matter to anyone else. As you've mentioned, nobody ever changes their opinion on this site. I wrote this entire lame post and it won't turn anyone into an idolfag. Hence it's not a big deal. Context matters.

>>31709474
Dangerously based and one of the few times I've agreed with every single word of a post. Can't remember the last time someone succinctly summed up my thoughts for me.

>>31709474
pretty based friendo. Self-awareness is key to not being a complete asshat.
I'm watching Haachama's 3Dlive and man I can't wait for mori to be 3D....

>>31709474
I think it's fine to have desires, and even more than that, you are free to have expectations of others, and even more so, completely unwarranted expectations. Those are internal feelings, thoughts, and desires. Internally, you can feel disappointed, sad, angry, whatever, when expectations, warranted or not, are unmet. It's not okay to lash out when those expectations are not met.

>>31709474
>Because my reeeing doesn't belong on other venues.
But you can express yourself in a way beyond throwing a tantrum.

You just did.

If you think you have something legitimate to say, then do it. You don't have to choose between "you" and "them". Your input does matter, and your wants and expectations also do. It's not like you're the only one that has them anyway. If you come here, and you only end up finding people who agree with you, you're not alone. Sure, there's things we mustn't say, or ways in which we mustn't say them, but there's ways to deal with that. In one word: sublimate.

>>31719297
wife material desu senpai

>>31719297
>>31721861
would unironically do awful things to marry this fictional character

>>31721995
>fictional

>>31721995
>character

>>31722024
>>31722054
dont do it
dont tell me its real
dont give me hope

>>31721995
>unironically

>>31721995
>marry

>>31722122
It's true. All of it.

>>31721995
No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't do anything.

>>31721995
>do

Her real name is Karen... of corse it is...

She got some weird ass eyes

At least this time it took until auto-sage.

>>31725690
/qa/ has gotten bored, it seems. It does impress me that the literally here girl who got doxx'ed the hardest because she's got a way with social media's doesn't have any big yabs in it.

Reminder to deadbeats, stream in 3, 2...

Started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM9S5TTGpz8

Lots of new members today.

She awakens!

Uh, what happened to all the new graphics and shit from the "reset"

>didn't install the new mic

>new comments section is misaligned
Mori....

I want her mommy Milkies

Man, I don't talk a lick of Japanese and even I can hear how bad her accent is.

>>31725619
>only 30 fps
dropped

>mori wants to get better at cooking
Choco & Luna collab when?

Did Calli just sniff a line of coke on stream?

What does aka spa mean? She's been saying it for months and I don't think I ever caught the meaning.

>>31730094
Aka is red in Japanese.
Aka + supa (super)

>>31730208
ah yes, I should have been able to figure that out

I wish I was as rich as riverside view

>>31730435
him and reven have probably donated more than I make in a year

welp
time for post stream depression

>>31727668
>choco collab
this will happen when she gets the asmr mic to work for double heartbeat asmr

Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!

so why are the faggots in hlgg freaking out about mori wanting to do non-vtube collabs
I've been glancing at the 2 threads during the wine stream and it's still not very clear to me

>>31735286
Shitposting and some intentional misrepresenting it as being with e-celebs instead of musicians.

>>31735286
It's just the good ol' Mori-doesn't-care-about-hololive-and-is-using-vtubing-as-a-stepping-stone-in-her-music-career narrative.