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Weird. This is too weird.

From what I've be seen, there are quite a couple of Umineko fans around here. Then why haven't I seen a thread about the epitaph lately? Have you given up already? Or have you already solved it? Lack of information isn't an excuse: It was stated that, after finishing reading episode 4, the epitaph was solvable. Which is a clue on itself actually: something presented on episode 4 is vital to solve the puzzle.

So, /jp/ why don't you throw your ideas in here and we try to solve it together? Don't worry, there is enough gold for all of us.

>> No.3163837

懐かしき、故郷を貫く鮎の川。
黄金郷を目指す者よ、これを下りて鍵を探せ。

川を下れば、やがて里あり。
その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ。
そこに黄金郷への鍵が眠る。


鍵を手にせし者は、以下に従いて黄金郷へ旅立つべし。

第一の晩に、鍵の選びし六人を生贄に捧げよ。
第二の晩に、残されし者は寄り添う二人を引き裂け。
第三の晩に、残されし者は誉れ高き我が名を讃えよ。
第四の晩に、頭をえぐりて殺せ。
第五の晩に、胸をえぐりて殺せ。
第六の晩に、腹をえぐりて殺せ。
第七の晩に、膝をえぐりて殺せ。
第八の晩に、足をえぐりて殺せ。
第九の晩に、魔女は蘇り、誰も生き残れはしない。
第十の晩に、旅は終わり、黄金の郷に至るだろう。


魔女は賢者を讃え、四つの宝を授けるだろう。
一つは、黄金郷の全ての黄金。
一つは、全ての死者の魂を蘇らせ。
一つは、失った愛すらも蘇らせる。
一つは、魔女を永遠に眠りにつかせよう。

安らかに眠れ、我が最愛の魔女ベアトリーチェ。

>> No.3163836

Leave me alone, Erika.

>> No.3163841

My beloved hometown, the sweetfish river running through it.
You who seek the Golden Land, follow its path downstream and seek the key.

If you follow the river downstream, you will find a village.
In the village, look for the shore the two will tell you of.
There sleeps the key to the Golden Land.


He who lays hand upon the key shall travel under the rules below.

At the first twilight, you shall lift up as sacrifice the six chosen by the key.
At the second twilight, those who remain shall tear apart the two who are close.
At the third twilight, those who remain shall praise my honorable name on high.
At the fourth twilight, gouge the head and kill.
At the fifth twilight, gouge the chest and kill.
At the sixth twilight, gouge the stomach and kill.
At the seventh twilight, gouge the knee and kill.
At the eighth twilight, gouge the leg and kill.
At the ninth twilight, the witch shall be revived and none shall be left alive.
At the tenth twilight, the journey shall end and you should reach the village of gold.


The witch will praise the wise, and should bestow four treasures.
One shall be, all the gold from the Golden Land.
One shall be, the resurrection of the souls of all the dead.
One shall be, even the resurrection of the lost love.
One shall be, to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Sleep peacefully, my most beloved witch, Beatrice.

>> No.3163844

* 鮎の川: This term can be read as "Sweetfish river". However, it can also mean "Bountiful river".

* The two (both occurence), those who remain: following the japanese meaning, these aren't always referring to people/persons, but can also refer to things.

* 黄金郷: Literally the land/village of gold, the meaning of this term is very close to the "El dorado" as the place is literally full of gold, hence Golden Land.

>> No.3163962

>>3163841
'Beloved hometown' The place which Kinzo loves isn't his birthplace as a human, but as a mage. That'd be the island. Since 'beloved' is empathized, I'd go as far as saying that is the secret mansion on the woods, where Beatrice lived, but that doesn't make sense with the next part:
'sweetfish river running through it' Fishes that go to the ocean to live, but eventually return to the river. Isn't that applicable to his siblings, who went to make family and business to the ocean, and eventually returned to the river to ask favors to him? If that's the case, then the hometown may refer to either the mansion or the whole island.

>> No.3164318

>>3163832
Give up. When Eva found the gold in the third chapter, she said that the answer was related to the number of characters on each word. You'll never solve it if you don't know Japanese.

>> No.3164337

Fuck it. Every time I figure something out, something happens and destroys my theory

I'll just go with the flow, no more fucking theories.

>> No.3164362

It's already has been solved by battler and Erika isn't it.

>> No.3164377

2ch would've handled it already if it was the island itself, Ryukishi said you'd have to presume quite a few locations so it's most likely an actual place.

Also, Kinzo's birth as a magus was quite likely not in the island since he got the island after summoning Beato and obtaining the gold. That's a good clue though.

>> No.3164395

If it wasn't so drenched in Japanese wordplay, perhaps we could theorycraft, but it's a pointless endeavor for those of us who don't know Japanese.

It would be like trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded.

>> No.3164532

>>3164377
If it isn't on the island, then how did Eva and Rosa found the gold that quickly? Or are we supposed to believe that it didn't happened? Are we going to ignore whatever doesn't go with our theories?

>> No.3164817

>>3164532
Eva and Rosa went there, so it has to be on the island, or at least there's some secret passage from the island to somewhere else to hell knows where. Sounds crazy? Yeah, well, I wouldn't pass grandfather.

>> No.3164907

Given kinzo's obsession with the west, the characters might be even dependent on romanji and whatnot. come on /jp/, show your prowess over both the english and japanese language is useful for word puzzles!

>> No.3164929

The gold was located in kuwadorian /thread

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>>3164817

>> No.3165029
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>>3164935

A challenger appears

>> No.3165099

>>3164318

>However, if a person who disclose the hidden gold of the contract appears, Beatrice must eternally and completely abdicate of this right
and
>>>/rs/I+keep+my+promises+unlike+some

Has it truly been solved? Or is the letter a lie despite constantly being in TIPS?

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