/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>31451757

>>31452025
Nene no! Don’t do it!

>>31452025
Nene, quick!
Post THAT clip!

>>31451757
of Zechs?

SECKUSU

>>31451757
She really is. I'm glad she didn't just disappear

Lots of Delta quotes were posted before, but I think the most important one is this one.

>I am very healthy and doing very well now!

Where does she stream?

Your saviourcomplexes are just gonna fuck you up next time she decides to be a retard.
SERIOUSLY QUESTIOn. why do you cry so much about that slut.

>>31452286
https://files.catbox.moe/5mbt8o.mp4

>>31456332
Delet

>>31455937
youtube/twitcast

>>31456332
how can one girl be so based?

I'm seriously wondering why yu care so much.
She fucked Hololive for the job.
She's fucking discord mods to keep her shit private.
Meanwhile she put herself in a situation where getting groomed is way to easy.
With that selfdestructive behaviour she is fucked either way.
Feel free to tell if I'm wrong

>>31456491
lmaoing @ ur life

>>31456491
>groomed
Isn't she 18+?

>>31456567
My bad for expecting a serious answer.
>>31456572
At least 20.

I'll fuck Delta one day

>>31456572
20-21. she's repeatedly said she has "4 years" when talking about wanting to do something big before turning 25

>>31456332
yes, she has a pretty high libido. it's not new

>>31456777
C-checked.

please... return...

>>31457260
>retweeted
sex...

>>31451757
Delta is not a vtuber.

>>31457687
who said she is?

>>31457776
my mental illness

CEO

if deluta has green hair what was this girl of hers? a prototype deluta?

>>31457260
yab

>>31451757
OF SEX

>>31459020
a twitcast persona that she used for a short period

>>31451757
121 days

https://twitter.com/DELUTAYA_FANBOX/status/1344140714410561537 today's stream was moved 6 hours early, it's starting in ~20 minutes

pay the fanbox, rats

Stream starting in 10 minutes.
https://youtu.be/yF5ie1wxx2s

>>31459020
maybe a halloween version?

>>31466000
Oh fuck I don't think I'll be able to make it. Let's hope she doesn't set it to private of she says some yabai shit

Wow, she's advertising it publicly.
https://twitter.com/mgmgoi4/status/1344146296282574848

So this is what we lost in holo, I want to track down some antis and beat them

>>31466650
Oh shit it's true

When's Charles

>>31466650
I'm glad she's getting more confidence to go public

>>31466650
Is Delta the healing arc?

>>31466650
Good. I am just waiting for her to stream publicly to membership her channel.

sex...

>>31466650
but what about the groomers that schizo insisted were manipulating her by holding her back and forcing her into hiding?

>she gets more viewers than the homos by doing a hidden stream and not being part of holo atm
Please delta come back...

>>31467056
it seems so

>>31467193
I'll never lose hope that she will come back at some point.

I've seen this video before, bugs on twitter say hololive stole dance moves from it.

>>31467193
i doubt she will but if she does it has to be on her own terms. im just happy to have my CEO of secksu back.

Can we get 1k viewers?

This cover attempt is just about as good as her Aloe debut version. It's nice to see she's almost back to full strength.

>>31467469
Not unless people start spreading the link around. As an unlisted stream, Youtube wont be able to help her reach new people, and her Twitter probably isn't quite big enough.

>>31467549
her first comeback stream on twitcast hit 1k but almost everyone was interested - FB, here, 5ch, chinks

i will never fucking forgive nijiniggers

I rather be a member on her youtube channel than doing the fanbox thing, hope she starts using youtube more.

I'll impregnate this bitch one day

>>31467469
I hope it doesn't spread to nijicunts

>>31467717
I think i remember her saying that she wasn't interested in getting a YT membership

why are Aloecucks like this?

she said she won't be in january so these are maybe the latest streams for a while

>>31467787
he got nuked in seconds. delta mods are snipers

>>31467784
Well that sucks then

Fucking Faggots

>>31467784
That was before youtube picked up on unlisted links from behind paywalls though wasn't it?

Oh fuck, the strong vocoder effect might becoming a fetish of mine. Delta yametekudastop

>>31467640
>>31467549
Well, looks like I severely underestimated her. She's already at 945 viewers

>>31467787
>>31467841
the mods are fully mobilized for the public stream, aloefags have no chance of living for more than a few seconds

Getting very close to 1k

>>31468019
>>31468034
she's already picked up over 600 subs on Youtube and rising

1k Viewers!

DELTA LOVE

delta sex

I'm glad she is definitely doing ok!

DELTA LOVE

TOMARANAI

She sounds really nervous. Not surprising consider it's her first "public" stream in a long time.

I'm so happy for her

1k viewers!
ALOE LOVE
DELTA LOVE

>original song
Goddammit Delta, no wonder they wanted you. The unbelievable talent at such a young age.

>>31468253
Wait, this current gorgeous song she's doing is her original work? Are you serious?

>>31468276
Yes

>>31468253
she told a story about this song during her Discord chat. the songs written about her appreciation for her fans and was the turning point where she started to take music seriously after it got a complimentary comment on it by a pretty big NND uta-p

>>31468276

the music is someone else's, but the vocals and lyrics are her design

>>31468253
Damn, I cant believe that was an original. Based

>>31468306
positive comment... fucking words

>>31468276
Yes.
https://youtu.be/iq2zfBMwTWc

She gained like 1k subs this stream

>>31468404
almost 1.5k atm

Delta is inclining. Aloe.. I guess we'll never have her back.

maybe the success of this stream will make her go public again

her army of hardcore simp mods nuke anything yab in chat within seconds anyway

ALOE.....LOVE!

>>31468465
I think that was pretty obvious

>​[EN] I learned some dirty words in english back in middleschool
SEX LOVE!!

>>31468465
Imagine Aloe going back to Hololive as Delta.

She wouldn't... right?

>>31468474
shit.. I wanna taste the pleasure of sniping nijifags

>unfiltered sex talk on a public stream
She's gained a ton of confidence!

Aloe will never come back now, huh? She's clearly seeing she doesn't need Hololive.

>>31468529
she doesn't talk with her former gen members anymore. a return will not happen.

>>31468529
If she ever went back it'd be as Aloe. She likes the design it's just hololive commissioned. I doubt it'll ever happen though

>>31468505
DELTA LOVE

>>31468544
she still depends on hololive popularity

>>31468588
This, she put a lot into that design, there was a lot of back and forth between her and her papa on it. I really hope that she gains the confidence to go back...

>"because deltaya has no breasts after all"
>you wanna go punk?
>i'll go get my 2 push up bras
>i'll wear both and make drill boobs, dont test me.

>>31468571
unlikely to have cut off contact completely. she went on a holiday suspiciously the same time gen5 did, and she had lamy/botan cosplayers visible in a recent fanbox post

most likely she still is in contact, even if infrequent, but keeps it hidden from antis.

>>31468571
>>31468588
I can see her going back once her confidence is soaring thanks to Delta inclining to the heavens. She doesn't have to give up Delta.

Romance stories is a euphemism for ero doujins. Last night during the stream on twitcast she asked for people to DM them to her.

>>31468571
I thought at least Nene would still talk with her.

>>31468588
>She likes the design it's just hololive commissioned.
>>31468620
>there was a lot of back and forth between her and her papa on it. I
Was Illuminate Dream ever scanned? I really want to see the early Aloe designs

>>31468717
>she went on a holiday suspiciously the same time gen5 did

Just pointing out that after that aloe was removed from every other holos's channel list. I'm pretty sure that was basically a final push from cover to try to get her to come back and she turned it down

>>31468717
>she went on a holiday suspiciously the same time gen5 did
she posted pictures while her trip was happening anon, her trip wasn't even in the same prefecture.

>>31468784
>>31468835
You're breaking my heart please stop

sorry but cant feel bad for a bitch that fucked over her coworkers for no reason at all
if anything all that her family did to her was deserved
get fucked
bitch

IS THE DAMN PINEAPLE SHIT MEYMEY GOD DAMMIT

>>31468883
You're a massive retard.

sex..

the fuck is sex doing

YAB
REAL VOICE REVEALED

delta DX

>>31468784
yeah it is likely that was gen5's last attempt at persuading her
>>31468835
they didn't spend their whole holidays together, could have been one meetup somewhere on the way in tokyo before flying off

Getting molested live by Delu-oji!

>>31468883
Ogey

>>31468736
Nah, later on twitter she requested people to DM her their experiences, she needed inspiration for songwriting.

>>31468940
I KNEW SHE WAS FAT LIKE POLKA

give it to me straight, is aloe ever coming back?

>>31467193
>Wanting her to come back
>When Holos are in part what ruined her
Yeah, fuck that.

>>31469030
No

>>31469030
There's a chance but it's more likely that she doesn't.

>>31469030
No. accept it and move on

>>31469030
No.

>>31468974
the narrative was that they met in Hokkaido for the gen 5 onsen trip. she went to Okinawa with her brother though
>>31469030
Aloe graduated in September and hasn't been seen since, anon

>>31469030
>got harassed and stalked both online and IRL
>ghosting all her gen friends
Yeah I don't think so

>>31469030
If she gets more attention, she'll probably gain more confidence that could make her come back. However, that confidence could also motivate her to just stay as Delta

>>31468505
>>31468615
Is it possible to be both? Is there any merit in coming back as Aloe? I doubt there ever will be, but a man can dream.

How the hell is there a 1k people watching her

>>31469030
Yes, but only so she can dab on Nijifags and play with Nene one last time....

>>31469030
No.

Her experience was too traumatic.

>>31469030
Likely no.

>>31469176
anon, she made the stream link public

>>31451757
>Nijihadists, and Seisofags stole this from us

>>31468717
>>31468746
supposedly she's been ghosting them since thanksgiving. see last thread for the claim

>>31469030
Nope, and I am moving foward, good luck boys, take care of her, hope she doesn't regret it

>>31469176
Link was posted in the hololive thread.

>>31468857
It's for the better anon. Hololive may offer better stability but stress would end up taking her out again.

>>31469234
She quit voluntarily though.

>>31469173
Goetic Tetrahedron still does things, maybe there's a future out there somewhere where Delta and Aloe can coexist.

>>31469030
she has no reason to, shes more popular as delta than most indie vtubers, gets mad fanbox money, and doesnt have to deal with antis

she has plans to get a live2d in the future too

>>31469264
I don't think it would be that stressful, I think if she actually went back she would see that the fears are unfounded, almost all of the fans would welcome her back with open arms.

>>31469030
no, move on faggot

>>31469264
it wasn't just the harassment, her shitty home life played a significant role in it as well
>>31469282
it wasn't that simple

>>31469030
why would you want her to go back to that shit company

Reminder that all the people in this thread telling you to move on are hololive antis and probably the kind of trash responsible for her getting harassed in the first place. They don't want her to go back because they're selfish fucks who want to groom Delta to be their low-view indie so they can feel closer to her. They're fucking parasites.

>>31469387
Fuck off nijinigger.

>>31469392
take off the tin foil hat for once? maybe they want her to get those 191k subscribers back as Delta?

>>31469428
I dont care about niji, cover has managed to fuck something up every two months this year. you have to be ridiculous to still want anyone to be in there

>>31469392
>They don't want her to go back because they're selfish
God damn, the irony of this post.

>>31469481
Except all of the girls themselves say that hololive is the best thing that ever happened to them and if it was a bad company they would leave. It's like a family and all of the genmates support each other.

>>31469392
how did she get 300k subs before launch and now barely has the fraction of that? surely it's the talents you're supporting, not the brand right?

>>31469523
I mean, would you badmouth the same company that feeds you? This is Japan, not the west.

>>31469523
>if it was a bad company they would leave

you don't know much about japanese culture do you

>>31469574
No but I'm going to trust the word of FBK who casually gave up half her earnings without a second glance in support of Coco over some random obviously biased hipster retard on 4chan.

>>31469523
other than hiring stalkers as managers

>>31469523
they deliberately round up unemployable neets with no self-esteem or real future prospects of course they won't say anything negative

>>31469607
Fubuking walks the walk, there's literally no argument you can make after what she's done, unless you're an ignorant retard who doesn't know.

>>31469481
Cover might profit off idol culture that does not make them complicit in the harassment she received.

People got sent to jail for it.

>>31469607
>>31469574
Lol, still thinking this shit in 2020 you guys are funny

>>31469552
>and now barely has the fraction of that?
because normalfags don't know about delta

>>31469574
This >>31469610 FBK even said when the holocaust happened that she would quit if Hololive became a bad company

>>31469030
she got fucked by COVER, so nope

>>31469523
even Delta had nothing bad to say about Cover in contrast to every other vtuber company she's talked about (no names to any of the others). she's said she still watches Holos and holds some of them like Marine as an inspiration for how hard she works at what she wants to do and to achieve her dreams

Pretty sure Delta liked Hololive, at the very least she didn't even imply they were nasty.

>>31467193
If she had a decent avatar and streamed publicly she could maybe get like 3~5k, which is pretty good for a indie vtuber.
The longer she keeps hiding, the more Holo audience she loses.

>>31469640
>People got sent to jail for it.
sauce?

>>31469685
Exactly. I understand if she personally decides not to go back for whatever her own reasons are, but the retards in this thread trying to argue she shouldn't go back because "hurr cover bad" need to kill themselves. They're obvious transparent antis.

>>31469610
>>31469668
FBK's more like the exception, rather than the norm among Holos though. She just doesn't give two shits unlike the rest.

>>31469685
Anon, even minor vtuber companies have you sign a NDA. You can't take these things at face value.

>>31469716
It's actually so fucking bizarre, why do nijjicucks keep coming to hate on cover and delta while at the same time saying shit like "move on", clearly they are the ones that have to move on from their hate boner for hololive and get fucked somewhere else.

>>31469740
The point is that Fubuki vouching for Cover is strong evidence that Cover is not some abusive black company, I trust her word that she would walk if it ever became like that.

>>31469523
DI YI RILLY BILIBIT??? :DDD

>>31469746
considering what she's said about some of the other companies she's applied to... the kinds of conversations that triggered the Nijis weren't one offs.
>>31469710
one of her streams last week. 3 people were charged wasn't it?

>>31469771
They harassed Aloe until she quit, and saw that as a win. Now they concern troll and pretend to be fans here to discourage people from trying to get her back because they'll feel like they lost.

>>31469030
This was kind of asked on her fanbox q&a a while ago and she said she is never gonna do corporate vtuber stuff ever again so...

>>31469804
why? she is literally their dancing mascot shill.

>>31469872
do you genuinely believe that the people in this thread are the same people who harassed her?

>>31469916
You obviously don't know shit about her. She gave up all of her bilibili money in an instant to support Coco during the Taiwan incident. She has more balls than anyone posting here.

You're just reading too much into what she said in that one twitcast. She was just bragging to her audience that "she knew how the industry was", making up stuff to back it up.

I just want to remind everyone that there is a sizable amount of Cover and Hololive antis who are part of the 5 cent army and if the post reeks of blind hatred, don't take it at face value.

>>31469949
>gave up all of her bilibili money

What do you suppose her other alternative was in this case?

>>31469947
No but some of them are people who were happy to see her get harassed.

>>31469872
She is not coming back tho, is not clear for you? if she gets a live 2D you think there will be still a chance? don't be delusional

CHARLESBROS

>>31469859
I'm behind on her streams, but if she did say anything, the discord translation isn't showing it.

>>31469990
Anon go read up the summaries of the whole situation, they go way more into detail. Bottom line is, FBK is based and her good character is indisputable. If Cover were a shitty company, she would leave them and take all her fans with her.

Her voice is so cute bros...

>>31469710
Archive reps

>>31466972
RIGHT NOW

I fucking love this song

God Delu is really going all out in front of this audience!

>>31469990
not him but can you use a tripcode so that I can filter you?

>>31470032
Δsional
sorry for bad pun

>>31470061
I don't doubt FBK's character, but I do think that contracts can be very nasty, and leaving without losing anything substantial wouldn't be possible without running into legal problems.

>>31469990
She did actively tweet about them before they came back while most people were trying to gloss over it.
>>31469872
The fags who try to tell her not to go public definitely aren't helping but unless she decides to go back herself you should move on and not get your hopes up

>>31469859
>>31470050
closest I see is this from the xmas stream
>I want to work hard next year!
>I doubt i'll be effected as much by antis now and no i think i'll be able to move on forward more
>I think i can work forward without worrying about who sees
>i will keep fanbox up and stuff to keep some things exclusive to those who want that
>but i want to be more public and share more covers and songs as i go
>people who can ignore antis are amazing
>Im someone who worries about that alot so
>When i see the comment at the moment, i can ignore it
>but i think about it later
>once i see it, it kinda stays in my head
>you'd think antis are a group of just these minors right?
>But when this went to court and stuff, there was some info that got shared but
>theres people in their 30's and stuff
>and i felt that some people really have their own issues
>and at the time i was hurt
>but some of the people said that they had some disorder or that that was just their personality
>some one the more persistent ones
>you cant sue the ones that do it once
>but the ones who keep at it are the ones that can go to court
>most of them were older than 20's
>only 2 of them were younger
>i thought most of these people whould be students or something.
>i mean having to pay a fee for making fun of someone but like
>seems stupid and childish
>*she doesnt understand why antis do what they do

>>31470175
Cover has a lot of lose if they drive talent away. FBK and the rest of the girls have huge bargaining power, by the very nature of their status within the company.

If the contracts were unfair, I'm sure more than a few of them would have already left or moved on.
The fact is, they have a decent work culture with a lot of flexibility. If only the audience matched that environment, we wouldn't have lost Aloe.

>full cover of KING soon
FUCK YEAH!

>谢谢
Unsubed.

She gained like 2300 subscribers during that stream, nice.

Good stream, see you around bros.

It was a good stream. I'm happy she's doing better.

>>31469030
definitely

>>31470207
Yagoo could try to starve her by not allow her to re public, so she will crawl back Hololive begging for his dick.

>>31469523
DO YOU RELE BELEB?

She was really happy bros...
I am super glad her first public stream went this well.

Thank god it'll probably stop the Discord from trying to gatekeep her success.

>>31470420
Praise Yagoo.

Did she ever say what color her panties were?

>>31470423
She needs to do more public streams, she deserves the exposure.

>>31470449
white

>>31469746
she took down the stream after she talked about how chill hololive was, so its safe to say she didnt care about nda

>>31470449
White

Rate the stream

For how many of you was this your first time seeing Delta's stream?
For those that have seen Delta's streams before, are a lot of you fanbox members, or did you just lurk around the board until someone leaked something?

>>31470449
>>31470475
Added
>going by the discord tl archives:
>Black/black lace: 11/13, 12/10, 12/14, 12/18, 12/21, 12/29
>Cat print : 12/26
>wool: 12/25
>pink/black (pink main): 12/22
>black/light blue: 12/20
>pink/black ribbon: 12/13
white: 12/30

>>31470314
I wish I still had this much optimism

>>31470540
fanbox since the start

...Sony ban the stream

>This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc., who has blocked it on copyright grounds.

>>31470607
Is this going to happen every time now?

Did anyone rip the stream? Gaystation killed the archive

>>31470635
Yes.

>>31470631
>Sony owns Nijisanji
So the Nijiniggers strike again...

>>31470607
rip I missed the start

>>31470540
I watched her playing some horror game I forgot the name of after some anon leaked her unlisted stream on youtube like a month ago

>>31470635
It's already happened a few times, so probably.

>>31470540
lurked

>>31470540
Fanbox since November

Surely there's an archivechad that saved the stream, right?

>>31470540
Fanbox since October. Decided to join after reading the pastebin of her posts that some anon posted.

>>31470540
FB member since the early leak on /hololive/ when it still only had like 20 people subbed
>>31470635
unless she decides to only sing songs that are on that record industry approved list or from creators that approve of covers, yeah

>>31470540
someone posted link here on Christmas so second time

>>31470540
Fanbox since she was in the hospital.

>>31470540
Nope, not a fanbox member.

>>31470540
Fanbox member after someone posted her wishlist on /hlg/. I ended up DMing her to confirm and sent her something. She ended up thanking me in a DM and I basically subbed to her fanbox when it opened.
She always turns every stream into a 4 hour zatsudan. She really would have been a great hololive member.

>>31470540
I just watch when someone post the link, but I wouldnt mind subbing to her fanbox if she did some good ASMR.

>>31469392
take your meds

>>31469392
I can't believe Towa is a Hololive anti.

>>31470540
Fanbox member for a while. Subbed out of interest to see what aloe was up to, ended up staying for the great streams and to help her restart her career.

VOD is gone. Sony nuked it

>>31471313
Well shit. I guess Im never going to close the youtube app

>>31471313
It'll be back up once they cut out the sony bits

>>31471313
did anyone record it

>>31471313
She will upload the VOD later

>>31469392
yikes. DELTA LOVE

>>31470540
fanbox since early october, unsubbed recently since I mostly just wanted to know what she was up to

I missed this stream too, what happened?

>>31471448
She sang.

I really hope she can comeback...
Her singing is great
and Aloe's model is great
It would be wasted if she stays as Delta
She could be Pekora's level of Vtuber

FUCK NIJINIGGERS
KILL ALL NIJINIGGERS

if i was delta i wouldnt go back to hololive. some people just are not cut out for corporate and life is much simpler when youre able to do what you want on your own. imagine having to suck up to managers or try to get along with coworkers you dont like or go to events you dont want or speak only through a filter. sure youll probably make money but will you have fun? it will become a total chore.

>>31471470
I just feel like she would be happier being able to collab with her genmates again.

>>31471587
>or try to get along with coworkers you dont like
Almost all the holo talents adore each other though, or at least mildly like each other but just don't interact much

>>31471587
fuck off nijicunt, the support of the other members alone is worth going back to. The money is just extra.

>>31456332
I still don't get why fags got so buttmad over it. She was supposed to be a succubus, how do you expect a succubus to not be the CEO of sex?

>>31471659
It was all concern trolling and fake outrage, flimsily justified. They just wanted to hurt hololive so they attacked the weakest link and broke her.

>>31471470
>It would be wasted if she stays as Delta
gtfo brandnigger

>>31471732
Best way to tell the nijiniggers to fuck themselves is with holo-branding.

>>31471587
Compared to indie? No fucking backing, connections, getting copywrite everyday or start having to make your own music and cover all on your own. Look starting on your own is good and all but not everyone is cut for that either. She could barely stand with a backing of a company and a legion of fans when the anti came attacking. There no way you're expecting her to stand strong by herself when it happens again. You know these antis don't let shit go.

>>31471644
she said herself that worrying about how her actions reflect on the company is too much pressure for her. she doesn't want it.

>>31471732
KYS hipster faggot

>>31471395
>>31471413
I hope the discordfags clipped the copyright song

>>31471764
>or start having to make your own music and cover all on your own

according to kiara, cover makes you pay for those out of pocket too

>>31471765
She'd fit right in with the other se,f-doubting holos. If she's worried about her actions reflecting bad on the company, she should take a look at Noel's roommate constantly slipping up.

>>31471764
>or start having to make your own music and cover all on your own
considering she's already paid the costs associated with producing the mini-album she's working on (minus art) as well as several covers... that's not an issue
>>31471795
Watame's said the same thing

>>31471639
now im not saying any of the holos are dislikeable but what about the behind the scenes staff.

>>31471644
i'm going to grace you with one (you). it is possible to support someone who doesnt work in the same company.

>>31471764
isnt she doing just fine now? there's a reason these indie people say "my pace", it means they don't have their boss breathing down their necks in trying to make money.

>>31471764
True

>>31471791
I still have the stream open. Which song it's getting cut?

>>31471865
>Watame's said the same thing

does cover seriously only give them a phone and a character model?

>>31471825
some of these selfdoubting people like Noel are able to cope, probably because of their massive support and their friends, but i can understand honestly why delta might not like it. it will make every day of employment miserable, and it feels bad to just pitywhore from fans/coworkers all the time.

i think i get the idea that she wants to be successful on her own merit, not because of a brand.

>>31471976
more or less. that is at least starting to change somewhat, as evident by the original songs (albeit as units) they're releasing weekly for Bloom

>>31471795
But at least there are connections in Hololive that you could use, if you so wanted. As opposed to forging those relationships from scratch, you could have Calli refer Delu to K-san, when otherwise she'd be hard-pressed to get his attention.

>>31471870
>now im not saying any of the holos are dislikeable but what about the behind the scenes staff.
After the Mel incident I feel like Cover at least double if not triple-vets their staff. No way do they want that shit to happen a second time.

>>31471976
They also get a manager. Dunno if there's one per group, but Enma is based in the US and there's another EN manager based in Japan. But yeah, Cover is super hands-off with their talents.

>>31472063
>After the Mel incident I feel like Cover at least double if not triple-vets their staff. No way do they want that shit to happen a second time.
let's just put it this way. there are people who want to work under a boss, and there are people who want to be their own boss. I am simply leaning on putting delta in the latter category. it will be much harder, sure, but it isn't impossible, and it has its appeal.

>>31472142
Except she applied for hololive the first time and was incredibly happy as Aloe before the harassment and suspension, and was horribly depressed over screwing up that opportunity. Whatever hangup is holding her back from rejoining, it's not some shit like that. I think she just lacks the confidence or is too embarrassed.

>>31471870
>isnt she doing just fine now?
She went public today. She was hiding in her fanbox/hugbox till now.

>>31472063
>when otherwise she'd be hard-pressed to get his attention
japanese indie producers are actually very approachable, it's not like he's some kind of a celebrity

>>31472221
It's not like she went into it knowing what could happen. After seeing the dangers of sudden fame her opinion changed. It's not that deep.

>>31472142
>I am simply leaning on putting delta in the latter category. it will be much harder, sure, but it isn't impossible, and it has its appeal.
I can see where you're coming from, at least, even if I don't agree that she stay indie.

>>31472221
which is a weird narrative because the main reason why she was harassed is because of a twitcasting video of her talking less than favorably about the industry and citing anecdotes.

>>31472225
"having a fanbox" with some patrons counts as "doing just fine", unless you think the only reason a vtuber can be happy is if they have 1m subs

>>31472354
>which is a weird narrative because the main reason why she was harassed is because of a twitcasting video of her talking less than favorably about the industry and citing anecdotes.
I wonder if she had any input in her suspension at all. Given Cover's history, ignoring Mel's situation until she pulled the lawyer card, then throwing Towa under the bus and forcing her to come clean because "Muh transparency" I can imagine the forced isolation, combined with what she's shared of her home life at the time. didn't do her mental state any favors.

>>31472063
>As opposed to forging those relationships from scratch, you could have Calli refer Delu to K-san, when otherwise she'd be hard-pressed to get his attention.
now I know Delu would feel too shy to do this now, but i don't think we should assume Calli is a cold-hearted bitch who would dismiss Delu if Delu came up to Calli and said "hey i used to be gen5, i like your music's producer and your work, do you think you can hook me up with him, too"

Calli would probably be happy to refer her to K-san. producers and singers are a two-way street, you know. they are mostly always looking for each other.

>>31472354
I think me and you are having a communication problem. She was fine because she was in her box. Now she's not and she has a foot out of the door because she went public. Are you getting this? Her box just got a lot bigger because she decided she wanted to grow.

>>31472354
>unless you think the only reason a vtuber can be happy is if they have 1m subs
You really are one of those selfish stalker freaks who wants her to keep a smaller viewerbase so you can stand out more, aren't you?

what problems she had at home?

>>31472757
Same as any dead end back water place. Dad's a dead beat and mother is on the fence of being a good or bad person.

that's sad

>>31472662
she is doing much better now than say 1 week into her being Aloe with 250k subs. that box was really big, too.

there's a difference now though. now she isnt beholden to Cover if she wanted to pull the plug on the entire thing for any reason

heck she could even transition into lewdtubing if she wanted

>>31472718
im not even subbed to her fanbox lmao, why are you schizos so paranoid

is it just so hard to understand that sometimes you want someone to be successful without a brand? i want her to have 1m subs but as delta and not as an employee that leaves a bad taste in her mouth

Will you guys only stop arguing about numbers when Delta's channel has more subscribers than Aloe's?

>>31472602
she's confirmed the Narukami narrative was mostly accurate. she asked to make the apology video and the two week suspension because she felt it's what was expected of her (she lamented that aspect of Japanese culture later), she ran off script because of doubts about whether she thought people would take her as sincere and said way too much causing the harassment to intensify.
the only part of the narrative she didn't mention was about Cover urging her to she push through and start streaming after but considering the graduation notice was penned the same day according to pdf metadata...

>>31472847
I wish people weren't as obsessed with corporatism. it's been mentioned several times already, there's a lot of appeal to being your own boss and doing what you want. if it means having to scratch and claw your way to 1m subs then so be it, but if she gets there, she will have nothing but pride with herself.

>The archives of today's broadcast will be re-uploaded after I finish checking the copyrights and writing the credits for the songs.

>Please wait a while...!

Good news for people who missed it!

>>31472847
I will only stop when there are better ways to see the world other than numbers. Since the universal equation hasn't been found yet, it aint happening.

>>31472602
IIRC Around a week of her suspension, Lamy said during her asakatsu that she regularly talk with other 5th Gen member offstream but it's been a while since she talk with Aloe. Towa also said that she's pretty much alone during her suspension that she's thinking of quitting.
I guess Cover learn their lesson after Aloe as Coco and Haato said that other members talked to them a lot during their suspension.

>>31473067
well, to take a page out of Botan
Delta being alive = 1
that's good enough for me.

>tl channel on Discord hidden again
there's been two streams that have been erased from history by Delta (Discord chat which was no archive, 12/6 zatsudan). what are the Discordfags trying to hide anyways when the original streams for everything else still exist? it doesn't effect the antis responsible for her harassment and who would be the ones to cause problems in the slightest, it's already easy as hell to verify they're watching her by checking archives like vtuber-matome

>>31471373
OBS capture it. Right now. Please.

The large breasted piano playing cosplayer that delta talks about is Pan Piano, right? So who is the old man eating udon?

>>31473375
VOD is back up already

>>31472656
Not that anon but I'm not sure about that. Calli respects her relationship with K-san a lot. He's her mentor/role model that has helped her out a ton. I don't think she'd feel comfortable with people "using" her to get to him. Imagine how many of her friends and acquaintances must have tried doing the same thing. She's not gonna risk her relationship/standing with her mentor, especially for someone she barely knows. I can see her recommending Delu to smaller producers but only if she genuinely likes Delu's work.

>>31472656
>if Delu came up to Calli and said "hey i used to be gen5
The question is what Delu thinks of Aloe the character - from what I understood she took a complete social media blackout because it hurt too much to see people still mourning her graduation. I know that she said in her Q&A that Cover approached her and asked her to return, but at the time she declined.
Is it an open offer?
Does she regret not taking the chance, if it were not an open offer, in hindsight?
Was the onsen visit a Gen5 meetup?

A lot of these questions are up to her. Sure there's merit in staying an indie streamer, and there's merit in returning as Aloe. If the copyright strike wasn't an automatic thing, that means she still has Niji antis targeting her.

But back to her approaching Calli, I get the feeling she'd try to do everything on her own without that easy in. Not to mention, if she's ghosting Gen5 then that means she doesn't want the association with them, for whatever reason.
>>31472882
>the only part of the narrative she didn't mention was about Cover urging her to she push through and start streaming after but considering the graduation notice was penned the same day according to pdf metadata...
She should have. She *really* should have mentioned this part, our dumb CEO of sex.

>>31473098
>I guess Cover learn their lesson after Aloe as Coco and Haato said that other members talked to them a lot during their suspension.
God, I'd hope that they would stop fucking up on the 4th time.

>>31473466
I don't know for sure either, of course, but I'm saying singers and producers are mostly always open to connect and collaborate with new people, since there is a certain struggle they go through in creativity.

sometimes as a producer, you hit a wall, and you want to look for something new as an inspiration. that could be in the form of collaborating with a new singer, which the singer you regularly collaborate with has vouched for. and if they have a healthy relationship, this would be an immense help.

i dont speak for calli or k-san or delu. i am however, a producer of some sort, myself, so i have these views.

>>31473498
>I get the feeling she'd try to do everything on her own without that easy in.
yeah thats reasonable and not unlike her.

>>31472221
>Whatever hangup is holding her back from rejoining
trauma. she went into more detail of the incident during the ASMR stream and it was way worse than people were speculating

>>31473498
>The question is what Delu thinks of Aloe the character
She feels attachment to the character and would only consider vtubing as Delta or Aloe, already rejected other offers. She had nothing but praise for Cover

>>31473713
whats her asmr stream like, besides that stuff?

>>31473713
Poor girl. I'm glad she's doing better now.

>>31473713
>during the ASMR stream
>way worse than people were speculating
I can't fap to this...

>>31473784
I can!

>>31473098
Coco and Haato already had strong connections with the others though, and the others guaranteed didn't think they did anything wrong. Look at Fubuki.

>>31473123
Is that really the way she phrased it?

>>31473722
Then this only feeds into the narrative that she feels unworthy of her slot, meaning that there is a chance that after building up her confidence as Delu she returns to being Aloe.

I mean, I'm not gonna hold my breath on that, but people can dream (I'm one of them). I'm happy that she's happy now; if she feels she can be happier as Aloe, I say go for it. Likewise, if she wants to stick to Delta, I'm fine with that too. Again, even if I think she's making a mistake, that's a me problem and not a her problem.

>>31473365
>tl channel on Discord hidden again
fucking niggers.

>>31473375
>>>/t/>>989967

>>31470358
If it's any consolation, 90% of her Chinese fans are TW

>>31473865
not verbatim, but in general Botan was optimistic about Aloe after graduation and said something along the lines of 'as long as they're alive, they can do something else. it doesnt have to be hololive'

>>31470540
FB since she was in the hospital. After a while stopped keeping up to date with her because the updates were just so depressing. Then some time in late November somebody mentioned she was out and doing better so I've been catching every stream I could ever since.

>>31473872
>Again, even if I think she's making a mistake, that's a me problem and not a her problem.
this is such a rare mindset for a fan to admit to having and you ought to feel good about yourself for having that.

in the end, while I think she ought to stay indie for her own sake, i don't know her personally and i don't know her life, so i have a very limited perspective on what she should do. i just hope she doesn't fail, whatever it is she wants to do

>>31472602
>>31472882
see
>>31473713
she specifically said the only reason she felt like talking about it is because there were so few people there

>>31473744
She had a nice comforting/headpat type audio she recorded, but her interface is damaged so she couldn't do a stream in real time. Supposed to get it fixed in january.

>>31473888
Fucked up my cross post
>>>/t/989967

>>31474026
>comforting/headpat
ummm yeah thats nice but i wanna do it to her, not from her to me!

>>31473365
They literally tell people on r***it to not post stuff about her without contacting 'Her Admins', it's disgusting.

so is her mother terminal, because that was the implication I got when she was talking about her mum's illness

>>31474118
some rheumatology disease or something. can't work and needs meds/treatment, but can play gacha games all day long to piss away money.

>>31474026
>she specifically said the only reason she felt like talking about it is because there were so few people there
That poor, poor girl. Least she's better now.

If it's not too much to ask, was it familial, Nijiniggers fucking with her home, or familial abuse caused by Nijinigs being doxxfags?

>>31474167
I can't believe she ever tried to help this cunt and even forgave her for stealing 2 mil yen. Delu is too good for this world.

>>31474214
>stealing 2 mil yen
holy fucking shit

>>31474167
Who the fuck is supporting this family? The government?

Brother too damn young to rake in real cash.
Mother is dying
Dad is pachinko manaic
And Delta is, well, delta.

>>31467152
They most definitely read about it here

How much you want to bet that those faggots are erasing shit in order to protect their sexdoll?

>>31474238
Exactly my reaction when I learned of it, made me go from sympathetic to her plight (abusive alcoholic husband) to instantly wanting her to drop dead. She gave back like 6k yen after paying off her own debts. Zero sympathy for people that steal from their own fucking children.

>>31474214
It was a mix of the harassment and her shitty home situation that broke her down

>I can't believe she ever tried to help this cunt and even forgave her for stealing 2 mil yen. Delu is too good for this world.
She's basically said that her mom was her support system all these years, the person she'd vent to and stuff. That's great and all, but the abuse with her dad has apparently gone on for some time. Like, her younger brother doesn't even live with them anymore because things got physical with her dad, specifically knives were drawn and police were called. Mom sitting back and passively allowing that didn't make me think highly of her in the first place. Then she stole her money.

Honestly, given the abuse and depression it's really weird that she's as stable as she is. You'd expect her to be saddled with daddy issues and addicted to drugs or something. Yet she barely even drinks.

>>31474293
A man gotta fuck alright

>>31474243
Apparently shit was heading downhill and Aloe was hoping help with that as a vtuber. After shit hit the fan, thinks weren't looking good until the simpforce money arrived. Why do you think her mom stole her money? With her mom not working, her dad is all they've got.

>>31474293
How did they react when she did the public stream? I imagine they hate losing their exclusive grasp on her

>>31472847
>Not even 10k v.s 190k
What r u talking about?

>>31474328
>You'd expect her to be saddled with daddy issues and addicted to drugs or something. Yet she barely even drinks.
The most broken are the ones that smile the hardest, that laugh the most. Even though she cracked, the girl refused to break. She's tough, our Delta.

I hope she stops suffering soon, she really deserves a stroke of good fortune for a change...

>>31474395
>With her mom not working, her dad is all they've got.
Well now they get to languish in their shared misery as she moves out. Fucking good, the sooner she's out of their grasp the better.

>>31474293
already complained about it above >>31473365 but them hiding the channel or intentionally not TL'ing "sensitive" talk does fucking nothing to protect her from the antis responsible for this situation in the first place because they can... you know, just listen to the original streams in their native language (which they'll then go back to where the came from and laugh about it http://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-7141-40847.html ). it's retarded white knighting of someone who doesn't have a problem with what she said; the only stream where she DID feel like she said too much is also the only stream that she chose to hide and asked for them to delete the TL of.

>>31474448
>Fucking good, the sooner she's out of their grasp the better.
Probably won't be till May unless sharehouse girl wants to go asap. Legitimately praying she does. Aloe needs to get out of that shithole before they kill her

>>31474003
>this is such a rare mindset for a fan to admit to having and you ought to feel good about yourself for having that.
It's not as rare as you think, it's just that a lot of the quiet fans don't feel compelled to go into detail and put a little asterisk next to every time they say "I wish she would return as Aloe"

Then you have the loud ones that say stupid shit and you think it paints the whole fanbase that way. You need to tune out the loud minority.

>>31474458
>>Link
>ALOE LOVE
>NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS
Well who would have thought, lol

>>31474328
>You'd expect her to be saddled with daddy issues
I do expect her to be. but she's toughing it out.

>>31474658
Isn't her dad a geezer? Hard to have daddy issues with a walking corpse

Is there a way to mass rip/copy a discord channel? seeing as the entire translation channel is now missing, and they're probably editing the shit out of it, i'd like to make my own backups so they can't nigger things again

>>31474541
>Aloe needs to get out of that shithole before they kill her
With her psycho dad it honestly worries me sometimes. Imagine being so afraid to walk around your own house you have to have a fridge and cookware in your own room just so you don't fucking starve.

>>31474733
Yet she still defends him saying she understands his mentality of doing to his kids what his dad did to him

>>31474729
I was looking into this the last time they vanished the TL channel, but I didn't get anywhere, Discord is really shitty about this and the way it works with the client.

If you find anything let us know, I will probably look into this again later this week when I have time.

>>31473365
They're still claiming that Delta is their property

>>31474712
He's like 70 so yeah
>>31474733
True I think she only discussed moving out with her mom. She didn't talk about the money thing to her dad either.

>>31474729
>>31474778
google gave me https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

>>31474712
>daddy issues
hey, let's clear this up. daddy issues is a general term to describe tendencies of girls to be mentally traumatized from abuse by their father.

it usually surfaces in relationships with boys, yes, but it doesnt mean she has had sex with her dad and therefore she compares any guy she meets to her dad.

>>31474733
this is stressing me out. i had an ex like this. i love them to death, still do. they had extreme daddy issues.

>>31474778
I had been copypastaing line by line as the streams ran but since she streams at the worst fucking times for my sleep cycle i gave up.

Yup those fags are scared of 4chan and are definitely deleting stuff from the TL channel

>>31475367
Scared because their grooming acts are getting revealed

how do you guys even stomach interacting with these people on discord?

>>31475542
I become the child molester.

>>31475542
I don't interact at all with them. I only joined to read the TL channel for the videos that I couldn't watch at the time

>>31475542
This >>31475657

>>31475367
>we know
>they know
>they know we know
>we know they know we know
do they know we know they know?

Reading about Delu’s family situation makes me feel worse than the life of a person I don’t personally know should

What would cause the discord to freak out without harming Delu

>>31477494
doxx the tlfags lol

https://twitter.com/Fu_MiHi_Ko/status/1344216657829515265

>>31475367
i looked through the translation channel. the only thing that was missing was translations of her twitcast stream yesterday cause its not archived or something. it looks like nothing from today's stream was touched

I wonder if Delta's groomers are cancelling their subscriptions now

>>31478132
Cancelled mine today before the next month starts. I got the info I wanted and I don't want to incentivize her to keep being delta
Also based neneposter makes them available for free anyway

>>31471596
No she wouldn't dumbass, if she'd be happier she'd be back by now, shut the fuck up and just accept her in this incarnation, get used to it she will not go back to another one.

>>31470540
I posted the amazon wishlist link on /hololive/. and subbed to her fanbox when she opened it.

>>31478311
She will be asked with questions like this more from now on and even more if she starts doing public streams, which I wish she should so she can get superchats and membership. Get used to it.

>>31478132
Me. I'm out. Canceled my 4 other accounts too. She can stand on her own now.

>>31478469
You! You're the reddit!

>>31470540
I heard about her fanbox right around the time she got out of the hospital so I subbed as I was curious how she was doing.
Really glad to see her getting back on her feet and being able to focus on her music and streaming again, she's a lot of fun to watch.

>>31478532
?

If Delta doesn't plan on going back to Hololive then why hasn't she made it official that she's never going back? Wouldn't it make more sense to just say shes done and thats that? By not making it clear, hundreds of people are gonna ask her many times and people on /jp/ are gonna keep going back and forth with the will/wont comments

>>31473872
This. I'm going to support her no matter what path she goes, I enjoy her streams and her music either way, and I hope she can find the success and happiness she's looking for however she decides to approach it.

>>31478597
probably because she's not sure what the future holds yet as far as her career goes? no sense in burning bridges pointlessly

>>31475542
fellow nigger its not that much different from any other hololive discord, have you been to them ever? its the same shit with whiteknights and creeps intermingled with normal fans

>>31478132
Upgraded mine from 500yen to 1500yen. DELTA LOVE

>>31478469
I might have found the fanbox back in september because of your post. Thank you Anon.

>>31478506
>Mirror pulling out
>ever
shiggy diggy

>>31479033
no. why would i go to them

>>31478123
why wasn't yesterday's archived?

>>31478597
Only idiots think she will come back ,what is wrong with you people. You want her to say publicly that she's never coming back? She left the company, shes gone. What more is there to say? Leave her alone for fucks sake.

Why are there so many concernfaggots trying to keep her a small indie? She's a mentally damaged, highschool dropout with no support network. What happens if she can't cut it as an indie?

>>31479372
Kobini.

>>31479372
She kinda liked doing that schoolwork thing with kids

>>31479690
Based

>>31479372
No one wants her to stay a small indie, everyone wants her to have success, but when you have retards begging her to come back to cover constantly or begging her make a public statement about it? You have to point out how ridiculous they look.

>>31475367
>>31474458
I wonder how Delta would feel if she knew the extent these idiots try to restrict information to the overseas audience, despite her nonchalance on sharing that information publicly to her fanbox members.

It's definitely not a good look here, where their moderation comes into actual criticism and isn't an echo chamber.

>>31481664
Should create your own clips and TL of her streams. That will rustle them

>>31477797
https://twitter.com/atosu_jiai/status/1344225548491374592
lmaoo look at this clown

>>31481782
I might just do that and post it here, out of their reach, at least summaries instead of the live TL they do.

It's really fucked that this needs to happen though, since you'd think they'd be more respectful to Delta's overseas fans. But apparently, their pure seiso idol needs to be protected from the nasty antis, so JP fans (who contain the actual antis) get the full experience while overseas fans are left in the dark about things Delu doesn't give a shit about sharing.


Remember bros, do your reps so you don't rely on these idiots.

>>31482127
you do realize that this is kind of the opposite of whats happening right?
anonchama, your meds...

>>31482127
she hides a stream, they nuke the tls. wth are you on about?

did they remove her talking about the incident or was it all the lewd stuff?

>>31482361
I was watching that stream live and I remember the Default guy saying in chat that he was not going to tl that part

>>31482322
Opposite? They're removing TLs despite it being public knowledge.

>>31482326
If she deletes the archive because she shared too much, that's fair, but censoring stuff mid-stream because they consider it too outrageous or revealing? That's the problem here.
We talked about this last thread with default not willing to TL adult themed topics.

My guy shits on youtube. You really think they going to translate r-18 shit and risk the ban?

>>31482567
idk, talking about stuff bad enough for her to take down the archive sounds like a problem with her, not the tls imo; good on them for thinking ahead

wouldnt tling the adult themed stuff get the tl flagged?

>>31482127
If >>31474823
works I plan to dump every stream tl to ybin

>>31482326
She "hid" the stream because of copyright, not because she didn't want people to hear what she had to say

The TLs dont owe anyone shit so if you want to know then learn JP

>>31468883
you got it wrong, that's Kiara

>>31482361
>about the incident
You mean the part from the ASMR stream? No, that's still up. I have both the youtube and discord tl's archived though because each of them refused to translate different sections during that. I was trying to sync them in a spreadsheet but got busy with other shit.

>>31481664
>>31482127
>>31482567
I know you might do this in protest of their attempts at trying to constrain information but I want to remind everyone here of something really simple:
Antis could hijack their reluctance to TL everything and really outrageous narratives could be created through a disinformation campaign, just because someone is trying to stir up shit.

It's in everyone's best interest that nothing be hidden, to avoid this shit.

>>31482885
best thing is she just didnt say anything that was "too yabai" in the first place

>>31482733
> edits two different streams to get around copyright blocks and reposts them
> two streams remain left in the archive "because of copyright"

you can believe what you want, i guess

>>31482885
didn't we already see that with the CN's? people explaining why they were watching wolf warrior the day of coco/haato's return were ignored as antis

>>31479656
wait, she fucks kids? now i'm investing in this slut. i hope she fucks her brother too.

>>31483027
12/6 literally says privated because of copyright. no idea why yesterday's twitcast was removed.

>>31482961
Exactly. That's a big problem. "Too yabai" could mean anything, but it's mostly just adult shit related to sex or adult topics.

>>31483042
China's political bullshit is vastly different from personal issues.
Something like: "Delta uses really big dildos" or "She doesn't really use condoms anymore" seems far more believable and the only people who could really discredit it, are the TLs who refuse to touch the topic in the first place.

>>31483208
>China's political bullshit is vastly different from personal issues.
I was just saying we've seen people exploit shit for narratives before. I'm not disagreeing with you.

>>31483093
as i said, believe what you want. if youd listened to 12/6, youd know it wasnt a copyright problem

>>31468883
t.

>>31483273
>source: my ass
Prove your claim or fuck off. /t/ has it archived anyway. Haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

>>31483308
You're the one who wants to know, we already do It's in YOUR interest to watch it

>>31483308
you think i dont have the stream from /t/? go watch it, then

watching people like you hiding behind your conspiracies while bashing people trying to prevent aloe 2.0 is just sad

>>31483398
Wrong. You made a claim >>31483027
Onus is on you. And without a tl from someone else, we couldn't prove you weren't making shit up anyway. Delta says it was due to copyright >>31483093
I'm going to believe her over you unless you have actual proof.

>>31483436
You got your wires crossed friend, I'm not against her doing anything.

>>31483498
The only translator you can trust is yourself, learn jap and watch it. Nobody's doing your homework for you

>>31482757
While I agree, it is not that simple. A significant portion of her overseas fanbase relies on TL, and that makes it easy for them to control whatever information they want, for better or worse.

>>31482885
I hadn't thought of that but I agree completely. I might avoid doing that then, because I really don't want to use a tripcode and someone could easily pretend they're me.

>>31483208
>it's mostly just adult shit related to sex or adult topics.
It is really tame stuff, compared to what's public knowledge by now.

>>31482127
I say you should do it. The adult related topics are not too yabai considering her twitter retweets and likes arts like those anyways. And the controversial dildo image is already widely known. Mostly of Nijis and anti already stopped caring about her because she's already outside of holo.
Even if nijis starts going at it again, you have the Roa topic to prove that she wasn't wrong with Chitose.

>>31483598
lmao I guess us peasants will have to do without your edification then