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>>3139374
Way to go Trollkastel.

Soon 34 will be pierced by blue spears.

Fuck.

I take that Umineko 5 is really the last game, like I have been hearing?

Translation please?

I though it released on 18th.
Downloading.

>>3139391
34 takes over beatos position.

>>3139390
I just started. can`t answer this.

>>3139390
Battler is the new Beatrice
Natsuhi had some shit about a kid in Kinzo's orphan
Erika is the new main character
Beato and all her servants dies ;_;

'The next game master will be me'
?

FFFFF why are these bitches hijacking my Umineko I thought they would only be support characters

I heard all the cousins except Battler die at the first twilight. If Battler sees both Kanon and Shannon in a non-magic scene, this will knock down that hokey theory, right?

>>3139411

ffffs no way any loli is going to win over gar-Battler in terms of hero.

>>3139424
Because they are awesome.

This gets more ridiculous with every episode.

I mean even fanfiction pales in comparison to this. I hope RK7 can make a satisfying coherent ending from this mess.

>>3139437
You will fap furiously to her. believe me, Anon.

>>3139424
>>3139424
>>3139424

Fuck I hate lolis.

>>3139440
I'm sure the plot will seem less ridiculous when the actual translation comes through and it's not just bullet-point plot spoilers. We're missing a lot of information right now it looks like, even with these spoilers.

Fuck that.

I'm not reding this for the frilly dressed lolis, give me back my murder mystery dammit.

WITCH-HUNT BETTER GET THEIR ASSES TO WORK

>>3139458
Well yeah, but this is getting so absurd now. The mystery elements are totally pushed aside in favor of meta world stuff.

>>3139468
0,00000001%

Was 34's face always this... odd?

Just wait until Chiru becomes anime.

Oh god if the new viewers flipped over meta-world and Beatrice appearing then they might kill each other over this wacky stuff.

I was expecting more developement of old cast, not a bunch of new frilly crotch chicks and Rika v1.3 hijack.

>>3139495
yes. since ep. 1.

>>3139459
The thing is that Erika is "Detective Rika," from her character's premise.
So, if anything, she will be a BETTER Anti-Fantasy theorizer than Batter was, so thus we can conclude that Episode 6 will feature the ultimate Anti-Fantasy arguments.
Do remember that existence of Bernkastel and Lamdadelta has nothing to do with the argument that "THERE WAS NO MAGIC USED IN THE ROKKENJIMA MURDERS."

FFFFFFF god I hope this isn't true. They made Battler the antagonist and replaced his awesomeness with some boring fucking Rika clone?! I'm dropping this if its true.

>>3139503

I know right. Fuck these new loli girls, I want to know what the hell is up with Asumu not being Battler's mom.

>>3139510
So basically she is a fucking Mary Sue who will solve everything.

>>3139475
That's why you need to learn to deny the meta-world.

>>3139525
Only at first, like everything else it will be fucked over.

hey guys.

Beato dies.

YOU FAGGOTS ARE FALLING FOR IT

DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHAT RYUKISHI SAID?

YOU FOOLS

>>3139532
Actually I don't fucking care about the murder in the board anymore. I just want to see some meta world drama and more magic fights.

>>3139548
What did he say?

what's with this?

CALM THE FUCK DOWN GUYS.BATTLER IS NOT GONNA BE THE ANTAGONIST.ERIKA IS THE ANTAGONIST.ERIKA IS JUST STUPID MOE SHIT THAT WILL CERTAINLY LOSE.YOU HEAR ME, FAGGOTS?!!

>>3139568
Erika isn't really moe, she's kind of a whiny bitch.

>>3139562
There's a huge trap that'll make everyone who's not on the right track go "WHAT THE FUCK" and it'll confirm the suspicions of those that are.

>>3139564
well, some fake. It got to be.

HEY GUYS, I'M HIJACKING YOUR GAME WITH MY LOLI.

HOPE THAT'S COOL WITH YOU ALL.

>>3139568
I can't help if I'm a gullible faggot who goes only by what hes told, and from what all these trolls are saying, Battler has been replaced by Rika clone. FFFFFFFF

>>3139568
You're right bro

>>3139564

Asumu? Kinzos waifu?

>>3139577
Erika is certainly more capable than anyone else on the island, since she's the one that helped Battler find the gold on the very first day.

I hope Ryuukishi is trolling us.
Fuck the new characters, fuck this bitch, give me back my awesome Ushiromiyas, give me back Ronove, give me back Stakes, give me back Beato, give me back my mystery and my mature characters arguing over the inheritance instead of frilly loli bitches! I have Touhou for that, for fuck's sake. I want to see Kyrie solving the mystery, not some Mary Sue piece of shit.
God damnit, I wish Ange would become the new detective, but not fucking this.

>>3139577
STOP BEING GULLIBLE FAGGOT THEN HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS

LOL Forcekastel

Is the ep really as short as I've heard?

>>3139599
CALM THE FUCK DOWN I SAID

>>3139599
fucking signed

ITT trolls trolling trolls

Hey guys, I'm getting a weird sense of deja vu here......

>>3139617

huh? What is it Casey?

>>3139605
That was awesome. Better not spoil it for them.

Erika appeared in the "real world", and met Battler there.
For those who think she may be a delusion or something.

>>3139625
But Battler is Erikas delusion.

>>3139620
I dunno....something about being replaced by some stupid loli....

>>3139574
I've definitely read about the "trap" before, but I've forgotten which extra TIP it was in. Mind telling me so I can go and reread?

Do you guys seriously believe Battler will be the antagonist? Seriously? It's all a trap to make us forget that all this shit doesn't fucking exist. There's only one antagonist - the murderer, and we should figure out who that is. Meta world drama is a huge red herring and a trolling.

Goddammit! I am the only fag having a hard time with 90% of Lambdadeltas words?

>>3139632
You were already replaced by two psycho bitches before Rika hijack.

>>3139599
but ange is a hamburger.

>>3139624
huh?

Whoever said Bernkastel has no emotions was fucking wrong.

Even the new music sucks.

>>3139599

Agreed. Kyrie pretty muched solved the 'Kinzo is dead' stunt the first 10 minutes she was on Rokkenjima, she might as well solve the entire game and not this new loli girl :|

>>3139605
Translation?

Dudes play it before you rage.
I enjoy the ride so far.

Those who are saying DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP, at least bring some alternative then.

Hey guys....I just realized something. Battler and Nanjo are the only ones to survive the first twilight every time!

>>3139681
And Nanjo has a mustache that proves he cant be a killer.

ZUTTO RIKA NO TURN!

So how long till I show up?

>>3139707
Hanyuu is the killer.

I`m a cute loli so don`t hate me okay?

So Erika appears in both the real world and the meta and she will keeps her memory from the previous worlds.
How the fuck can you deny the meta-world that way?

Detective lolis XD

>>3139718
It's just a trick. Magic doesn't exist.

From what I understand Erika is only in Episode 5 gameboard.
New characters are possible because of a new game master. Once Beato is back everything is back to normal.

>>3139605
>>3139666
"... if you surrender the game."

>>3139681
>>3139687
Nanjo also stays on the island under the pretense that Kinzo is alive, playing chess with him and predicting his life expectancy and such.
With what we know now... this is of course extremely suspicious.

>>3139751
People with mustaches are never the killer, your argument is invalid.

>>3139744
If you are on the mystery side, the fact that Beatrice is the game master or not doesn't really matter considering that the meta world can't affect the real world.
Erika appears in the real world, meet everyone including Battler, there is no trick in her existence unlike what one could think of the Beatrice of episode 2 for example.

>>3139744
I hope Erika is the new EVA-Beatrice - horrible piece of shit that only stays for one game.
They can't kill Ange and keep HER, right? RIGHT?

>>3139756

Fuck you EVA-Beatrice was awesome

>>3139495
Yupp.

>>3139505
Was she even in ep 1?

>>3139718
It's all in their heads, maybe? (Battler's, for example...)

>>3139756
>EVA-Beatrice
>Horrible piece of shit

At what point of the game does Beato die anyway? In the end, in the middle, at the very beginning?

>>3139756
She will appear in the next game, and most likely be the protagonist, sorry.

>Beato
>die
You guys are really trolled easily aren't you?

>>3139770
protagonist = main character of a story

bzzt.YOU ARE WRONG.BATTLER IS STILL A PROTAGONIST.

>>3139776

See, Ryukishi is trolling you into thinking he's trolling about Beato dying. She will never come back.

>>3139782
Each game can be seen as a stand-alone story.
Like Higurashi, Keichi was the protagonist of the first 3 game and it changed later.

>>3139784
He's mindfucked us.

>>3139790
No it can't because the previous episodes are often referenced and assumed to have happened in all the episodes. At least in the meta-world.

>>3139784
What the hell is the point of Umineko then? Fuck this, I'm leaving.

First Ryukishi says that those who have read Higurashi will have harder time revealing the truth, then fucking Rika appears. What the hell is going on here.

Here's the thing with Higurashi.

Keiichi got overrun by a loli and the loli became the new hero.

But at least it was a pre-existing loli and not some new one who pops out of nowhere and looks like a pseudo-Bernkastel.

Seriously her name is Furudo Erika.
Are you fucking serious?

Bawson.jpg

>>3139795
Higurashi followed the same thread too, even if it wasn't apparent at first.
And a story can have several protagonists, heck a protagonist can become an antagonist, it's not that rare.

Battler: I MUST KILL BEATRICE!
Lamda Delta: No Battler, you are Beatrice
and Battler was a wizard

>>3139815

Where is Rika hijack lol.png?

>>3139782
A story can have multiple protagonists and antagonists.

>>3139818
Should be
> And then Battler was a wizard.

Erika's pretty damn brutal with the red text of hers, I have to say.

>>3139847
Waaait a minute. Erika is using red text too?

Good grief.

I, for one, welcome Fancy Rika Mk.II.
And Battler, I am disappoint.

YOU ARE A WIZARD, BATTLER

Oh God Bern-chan is moe!

MEANWHILE, AT WITCH-HUNT

>>3139860
Pretty much EVERYONE is using red text like it's going out of style or something.

>>3139871

I agree. Battler don't become Keiichi and let some loli take your spot. Poor Ange is rolling in her grave...or wherever minced meat goes.

>>3139915
>Poor Ange is rolling in her grave

I have some very good or rather bad news for you

Wait. Erika has blue eyes. Does that mean she's a witch or eye color doesn't matter anymore?

I've seen the strangest thing today - one hamburger at the stand was rolling around for no visible reason.

>>3139927
Don't say it.

>>3139927
post pics or it didn't happen

>>3139927

If Ange comes back then good news is good. Go ahead anon, I may as well be mindscrewed more going so deep in already.

>>3139915
So you agree with me on what exactly?

>>3139935
She is a witch. All witches with low powerlevel have blue eyes.

>>3139938
Just kidding

>>3139945

That Battler is disappoint so far.

Rika Hijacks another game.

>>3139955
Shut up Forcekastel!

Erika seems to be very much an antagonist, actually. It's like the unholy alliance between Bernkastel and Erika is the root of all evil.

Battler's still a protagonist, but on a different side.

>>3139948

I don't remember that. Could you confirm it? I probably missed something.

>>3139966
That's good to hear I guess

Umineko version where?

Look on the bright side.

There won't be small bombs.

>>3139966
She is a bitch.
But seeing the end, she is going to be the protagonist.
The protagonist doesn't have to be likable.

>>3139955
Last battle will be Bern vs. Erika on the Final Destination stage. No magic. No red text. Fists only.

>>3139966
This

>>3139966

Just by EP5's OP I could've said "she's the new mastermind behind all this", then I see spoilers here around and now I'm confused.

>>3139987
>She is a bitch.

She is a Rika.

>>3139988
Bern and Erika are working together.

>>3139966
34 side is not really better than Bern side.

Bern and Erika are the good guys.
They strike down evil in an even more evil way.

>>3139987
>>3140001

And so was Rika in serious mode sometimes.

>>3140010
Aren't they the same person?

>>3140021
By serious mode you mean mii > ni-pah?

>>3140016
I've been saying since EP 3 Bern and Lamba are the final bosses. I still think that.

Erika is the character who is pursuing the truth now, and she is the one who has some very harsh condition to fulfill to win, that's what will make her the protagonist in the following games.
Not her likability or something.

This game was pretty much a transition to the answer part of Umineko I guess, and Erika is pretty capable despite the fact that she is a bitch.

>>3140022

Both Bern and Erika "originated" from Rika herself IIRC.

>>3140028
Only Lambda. If Lambda wins it is punishment game time for Bern.

Can't wait to see Erika's furniture in future episodes. Hanyuu's, hordes of them.

>>3140045
So death by drowning?

But Bern fucked over Ange's life.
I will always consider Battler the protagonist, no matter what he does. That said, the game took the worst possible direction it seems.

>>3139973
>I don't remember that. Could you confirm it? I probably missed something.

If anyone could.

>>3140056
Sup anti mystery.

>>3140067
Quite the opposite actually. All those "new furniture" and "Bern's piece" and meta world drama annoy me to no end.

So did Battler say magic exists?

So what was Bern's reaction when Battler went to 34's side?

>>3140075
Then you are Anti-Fantasy and still blame Bern for Anges fucked up life?

>>3140086

So what does this answer specifically? What happened in the 1st arc?

>>3140114
Bernkastel/Erika make the best facial expressions, ever

>>3140114
Bern slightly blushing?

>>3140129
Bern has emotions, bro.

>>3140137
First few minutes of EP5 likes to have a word with you.

>>3139838
No, no. The game pretty clearly states that Battler is now the new Golden Witch.
If anything, it's so that he can take Beatrice's place directly in her honor, rather than that he's a girl now.

>>3140110
Nothing. It is not an Answer arc.
According to Ryukishi, it is a grave mistake to call the Chiru arcs Answer arcs.

>>3140212
>According to Ryukishi, it is a grave mistake to call the Chiru arcs Answer arcs.
That means will there be more than 8 arcs in total?

>>3140218
Doubt it.

So... Battler is on the anti-mystery side now?

And who exactly is Erika? Where did she come from?

And what's up with Natsuhi?

>>3140234
-yes
-She is a detective
-She continues to be the moe-est character in the game.

>>3140218
Who knows. Maybe, maybe not. Just because they're not Answer arcs doesn't mean that things won't get answered, you know.

>>3140212
Then what is the point of adding Chiru to the title?

Umineko will end without answering all questions. Anti-mystery and anti-fantasy could both be right.

in during fags get trolled again like half way through EP3.

Explain what happens in every twilight and the game. Please, make sense of this

>Ryukishi's face right now

>>3140234
Erika's a witch and a detective. She's like an extension of Bernkastel, in a sense. She can use both blue and red text because of this.

She manages to find the gold, reveal Natsuhi's plot, and pretty much decimate Beatrice's existence.

>>3140248
Presumably we are entering a new phase of Umineko.
OR RATHER, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE ENTERING A NEW PHASE OF UMINEKO.
Things will still be answered, it just won't be "lol these are the answers to those questions from earlier."

OH GOD WHAT IS GOING ON

>>3140263

So Natsuhi's confirmed as the murderer, at least for this arc?

My opinion of Bern drastically changed.
Halfway through EP 4 I did not care about her.
After EP4 and and the tip I liked her.
Now I fucking love that little troll.

>>3140280
That's just what Ryukishi wants you to think.

>>3140263
BUT CAN SHE SEE WHY KIDS LOVE CINNAMON TOAST CRUCH

>>3140263
So Beato is gone forever?

Damn you

>>3140297
Doubt it.

>>3140287
Given how absurdly insightful the little bugger is right now, definitely.

She managed to find the gold before the murders even STARTED. She practically washed up ashore only to solve every single mystery on that damn island.

>>3140263
>and pretty much decimate Beatrice's existence.

So she's the one who killed beato? and how?

>>3140314

>>3140314
It's a trap.

>>3140314
Like a competent Janitor? We could use some of that around here.

>>3140319
Red text'd her into oblivion.

>>3140314
Sound more and more like a mary sue.

Man, I'm just waiting for someone in this thread to post something along the lines of...

"WAIT WHAT, HOLY SHIT" or something like that about this (e)rika character.

It's times like this that make me slightly regret I never learned moonrunes...

>>3140314
Fucking Mary Sue, stop ruining my mystery games!

>>3140314
So wait, Natsuhi washed up on shore, married Krauss, found the gold, and KILLED EVERYONE????

>>3140357
We are good bros and won`t spoil something of EP3 tier.

What's the proper english romanization of this furniture's name?

Dranoll A. Knox, or some shit?

>>3140344

How exactly? That's what I'm wondering.

>>3140381
I'm not sure how i feel about her design.

>>3140381
Translation?

>>3140381
>Power Fist
Sure is 40k around here

Anyone who thinks Erika is the new protagonist is an idiot.

SO WHAT THE FUCK EXACTLY HAPPENS IN THIS GAME?!?!?!? SOMEONE OUTLINE IT IN SPOILER TAGS!!!!

last post before I go.

>>3140439

Beato dies.
Stakes die.
Bronove dies.
Battler is Beatrice.
Rika is Detective Rika and Rikatrice in one.
Natsuhi is the culprit.
Bernkastel is trolling again.

>>3140450
Thanks, but some more elaboration would help. Especially the Natsuhi related thing

So how exactly is Erika connected to Rika and Bern? Where did she come from?

>>3140417
But do you know the beauty of it?
WE PROBABLY WON'T KNOW FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
Waiting for this shit to be resolved is going to be absolute hell.

>>3140375

Anyone know what's going on in this screenshot? Why is Natsuhi in the meta-world?

>Beato dies.
>Stakes die.
>Bronove dies.

>>3140473
Because Anon copypasted sprites to photoshop?

>Battler is Beatrice.

Wait what? Explain please.

Instead of just stating the same spoilers over and over again, can someone just EXPLAIN what happened? The ending makes no fucking sense without explanation.

>>3140504
Beato is another personality of Battler.

>>3140508
Beatrice died because she was DEFEATED.
By Erika. WITH THE RED TEXT.
ERIKA OBLITERATED HER CLAIMS TO EXISTENCE.

>>3140514

Oh god, Beato is just Battler crossdressing, wearing a wig, and wearing a stuffed bra, oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Watch them reveal in the next game that only red text spoken by Beatrice is truth.

>>3140539
If Beato is dead (probably not) then how will they finish the series.

Also, how can Battler become a witch?

>>3140544
Think about it. Each time you fapped to Beato you actually fapped to Battler.

Looking at it now, I'm thinking it's going to be some sort of fight club end, with Beato being another side of Battler

>>3140559
Erika disproves magic > Battler becomes a normalfag again.

>>3140582
How exactly does Erika appear in the game. Is she the shipwreck survivor or something. Or does she just appear

>>3140560
That just makes it even hotter.

>>3140561
That would be shitty.

>>3140561
Amazing revelation there, bro. This has not been said for the last several threads at all.

>>3140559
>If Beato is dead (probably not) then how will they finish the series.
Why wouldn't they be able to? They can still explain everything without Beatrice. Battler was there, he saw everything, so he can act in Beatrice's stead in the game.
>Also, how can Battler become a witch?
Like everyone else does---a higher witch recognizes him. Lambdadelta does this, and thus it is so.

You know, we should have seen Beato's death coming because the game is called End of the Golden Witch

Wait so in ep 3, Battler actually trolled himself?

Prediction: Battler is only arguing for anti-mystery in order to bring Beato back to life. They then team up and destroy Lamdadelta, Bern, etc.

Kinzo's in love with Battler?

Man, no wonder Battler has problems.

>>3140666

expected, actually.

>>3140666
That would be kinda meta. Old characters trying to protect their possition against new characters. And well, the fandom is on their side... It's rare for a character to appear in the middle of the story and hijack it without getting a lot of heat/sue calling.

As it stands right now, due to Battler taking the place of Beatrice, the claims that with certainty Beatrice can't win and there is no chance of a miracle are now void due to it being Battler instead of Beatrice.

EP1 Culprit: MOTHAFUCKING Kanon
Accomplices or not is still unknown

Second prediction: Bern is trolling Lamda and will betray her to join Battler and Beato's side again.

I'm actually kind of glad I am reading these spoilers, because this shit isn't coherent at all. It's not even spoilers, I'm just exceedingly confused.

>>3140904
Like anyone is surprised by that.

>>3140904
Just as planned
Finally some shit that makes sense

>>3140904
Yeah, that's no surprise. How is it confirmed?

>>3140904
Please tell me you're not a troll.

>>3141027
Not a troll.

This very moment, with this very red text popping out of a sudden made me shit bricks more than any rahu goldenslaughterer or any other creepy moment in the whole Umineko.

Anybody know wtf is she saying?

>>3141035

>>3141035
detective/investigator authority/power

>>3141050
>>3141035
Is that red text in the human world?

How can that even work?

>>3141050
>>3141035
.........FUCK

>>3141066
Yes, and THAT is the very reason why I shat bricks.

>>3140666

I can see that. I think Battler is trolling the trollers.

LISTEN TO ME FAGGOTS
HOW MUCH TIME DOES IT TAKE TO READ ALL THE FOUR EPISODES?

>>3141102
You have 3 solid weeks to spare?

>>3141102
Depends on your reading speed. And if you take your time to think.

>>3141050
a detective has all the right to investigate at the scene of crime. step aside, ushinomiya battler. this is the real rule of the game where humans ____ {need context?}

>>3141085
It's not the human world! HUGE META TROLL

Oh, and one more thing. Piece Battler DID see both Shanon and Kanon together. Well, his sprite wasn't placed together along with them, but from the context you could pretty much see that he was together in the room with the two of them, along with Eva, Hideyoshi, Rudolf and Kyrie.

>>3141085
That makes no sense though.

How does piece Battler even know what red text is?

It seems like it's only there for the benefit of the reader.

>>3141107
>>3141111
Ok thanks, I think I'll just stick with the anime.

>>3141102
if you are a fast reader like me
12 hours
if you arent
make it double

>>3141102
Protip: Stop reading here and play the game.
You experience will be much better when unspoiled.

>>3140624
I thought Battler took Beatrice's place?

>>3141102
What's Ange saying?

"the new game master is me"
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
sorry if slowpoke

>>3141160
Welcome to 2 hours ago.

by the way, battler, kyrie, and rudolf all survive so good end for ange

>>3141439
Happy Hamburger Day!

>>3141102

4-6 hours each.

>>3142434 4-6 hours each.
Maybe if you're some kind of super speed-reader.