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Only good for her sex appeal.

Fascinating.

Oh, man. You poor son of a bitch.

I'm getting out of this thread before ZUN gets here.

Don't post endings, you cunt. Reported.

Reisen is a nice fap.

I prefer suika. Not sure about the adorable part, but The Almighty Lollball (running c) can destroy any foe.

>>3124133
>>3124129
It's ok SWR isn't a ZUN game

>>3124133

I wasn't aware it was against 4chan's rules, sorry.

>>3124143
Yes it is.

>>3124133
SWR story mode is garbage anyway, so posting its endings is OK. No one should be playing it in the first place, other than to unlock characters/spellcards/get used to basic controls.

Reisen is just disturbingly hot, but it's really the personality that does it.

>>3124149
It's not 4chan, its ZUN.
You have angered the very ZUN.

>>3124160
Reisen has a personality now?

Canon good girl.

>>3124160
what personality?

>>3124165
>>3124168

oh u

>>3124167

That she really, really is.

>>3124161
Why do we care?

Honestly, I like how IaMP and SWR's single-player modes are closer to an action game. Those of us who don't play fightans can still enjoy the games and the story, while those who do are mainly going to play multiplayer anyway. Everyone wins.

>>3124189
We don't. Only Pooshlmerites/Shrinemaidenfags do.

>>3124165
>>3124168
Glad I'm not alone on this

>>3124178
Now I love Reisen but you gotta admit the girl is as deep as a kiddy pool.

>>3124195
Yeah, but you know how butthurt fightanfags get about people playing single-player mode at all.

>>3124203
>Now I love Reisen but you gotta admit the girl is as deep as a kiddy pool.

No, that I damn well will not admit. Reisen is one of the few touhoes that have a personality that goes past random aggression. She has a history. She knows the consequences of her actions and knows what regret is, and that makes her more sane, more responsible and more relatable than many of the others.

>>3124226
I disagree, but whatever. I shouldn't try and start a shitstorm about something as vague as the Touhou personalities.

I've always counted Reisen as one of the most likable characters in the whole series, even moreso after IotM&E showed (in an exaggerated fashion) how much her daily life sucks.

Without her, the Eientei household would collapse into internal bickering and strife. She's the knot that ties it all together - a pet to Kaguya, an apprentice to Eirin, a big sister/role model for Tewi and the only one with enough responsibility to get anything done. Yet she never gets thanks for that. Tewi fucks with her (not in the nice way) all the time, Eirin puts her in a coma if she makes the tiniest slip-up and Kaguya... she just lies around and expects to be served as a matter of course, the useless pampered cunt that she is. Reisen never gets the slightest bit of respect, not even after she somehow manages to defeat Yukari in SWR.

Despite this, she never leaves. Cause she knows she's the only thing keeping Eientei going.

So yeah, she puts a few people in the asylum and probably kills a bunch of others. That's her job. She's a soldier, a bodyguard. It's not like she goes out of her way to be cruel like Yuka. You could bring up her backstory too, that she's a wanted war criminal, but fuck it, that's in the past and right now she's probably the touhou I'd feel most comfortable around. Even Keine has her cranky, dangerous days, but not Reisen - she's always reasonable and reliable.

>>3124234
>Without her, the Eientei household would collapse into internal bickering and strife.
Eientei already has Eirin though.

>>3124226
She's a fucking war criminal evading capture and trial.

How hard is the SP mode in SWR and IaMP? I really, really suck at fighting games but I do want to see those endings, since I saw all the others from the danmaku games.

>>3124240
Being a mad scientist doesn't lend itself well to being the head of a household.

>>3124258

You can button-mash your way through most characters' paths if you set difficulty on easy. Your biggest problems will be a couple tricky spell cards that require you to spam some individual attack and dodge around instead of merely mashing buttans.

Also, some characters are a bitch to button-mash with (like Alice, whose attacks all seem to have a huge minimum distance to the enemy inside which they don't work).

>>3124255

I know! Isn't that cute?

I wonder if there are any pictures of Reisen firebombing moon orphanages or whatever.

>>3124262
She's not mad by any stretch of the imagination though. At least not in canon.

>>3124274

She is in IotM&E.

>>3124234
Tewi is likely much older than Reisen and dicks around for the same reason Yukari does. Kaguya is actually a rather reasonable person. Rabbit army does most of the work, which is not much because you have to maintain a single mansion already kept in stasis with eternity magic, it's not like Kaguya and Eirin issue crazy demands every other day.

Though Reisen is likely the only sane individual on Eientei by human standards and overall one of the most mentally stable youkai in Touhou.

>>3124262
He's not a scientist.

He's just a mad idiot.

>>3124279
>Tewi is likely much older than Reisen and dicks around for the same reason Yukari does

Yukari dicks around because she's so powerful that it's the only thing she can do anymore, everything is pointless for her. Tewi is plain immature.

>>3124278
>IotM&E

Inaba of the Moon & Earth is silliness. We don't even know how strongly ZUN participated in making it.

But ZUN really does love those Lunarians.

>>3124278
Which is hardly canon. ZUN played a very minor roll in it.

>>3124296

Even if it was completely made by somebody else, Zun still stamped it with his approval.

But yeah, let's call it "exaggerated".

>>3124279
>likely
Tewi is well over 1000. Reisen is estimated to be in her 40's.

>>3124309
ZUN also stamped Witches' Tea Party with his stamp of approval.

ZUN just parties however he wants, and supports the doujinshi scene. He takes it pretty easy when it comes to the Touhou personalities, adjusting them as he feels like. In the end, you can almost always find some sort of support "from ZUN" that goes with your idea of the character. But ZUN himself is so inconsistent, and things could go wrong with the translation, that people will end up with different ideas about the same character even though they're using the same source to back up their own interpretation.

Alice is all over the goddamn place in official written material, and no one knows what the fuck is up with her.

Enough bickering, more bunny.

>>3124359
It's hardly bickering, and you posted a sample picture.

/jp/ rarely talks about Reisen in even a mildly serious light, so this is a nice change of pace.

>>3124356
Schizophrenia is the answer. All touhoues are utterly insane.

>>3124351

Actually, we only have a lower limit for Reisen's age. She could be a billion years old for all anybody knows.

But I prefer the theory that earth rabbits just mature slower than moon rabbits.

>>3124356
>ZUN also stamped Witches' Tea Party with his stamp of approval.
I never read that and the wiki links are fucked. What's so bad (or questionable) about that particular work?

>>3124387
Isn't this the doujin that popularized the "precious thing" and Alice, or did IOSYS come first?

>>3124110
bawxy ur ma hero lol
> www.anystalk.com, nys = non

>>3124387

It's the birthplace of the lonely weepy Alice, so some people hate the fuck out of it for that reason.

>>3124373
No, we know she's less than 60, I'm pretty sure.

>>3124421

Since when? Something in PoFV?

>>3124373
It's hard to not mature after ~3000 years (Tewi's lower limit according to canon provided she's the original naked hare of Inaba. ), I'd say she's just playing around. She shows wisdom in CiLR, if I recall.

>>3124406
To be fair, she was in Mystic Story, where everyone cries. But since Alice was also in the Extra, she cries AGAIN when she loses. It's possible that some people got that sort of impression of Alice just from Mystic Square.

>>3124443
>tewi
>wisdom

Really now.

>>3124421
>>3124427
eh, if that's his reasoning it doesn't really hold up. At best it would be 60 years since coming to Earth.

I don't believe there is an upper limit on her age, but does she really act like she's 500? I think in Inaba she does say that she's definitely younger than Tewi at least, although again, that's not that canon.

>>3124452
That would be understandable, but only a handful of Alice doujinshi actually focus plainly on the MS Alice. It's pretty clear that it's Windows Alice in Witches' Tea Party.

>>3124459
>I think in Inaba she does say that she's definitely younger than Tewi at least

Come to think of it, that she does. So we do have an upper limit.

I wouldn't worry about the level of the canon status too much since Zun contradicts even his own objective facts, not just personalities. Like how Yuyuko talks about how she has killed countless people for her amusement and then Zun later says that she's extraordinarily careful about not doing such a thing.

>>3124427
Sorry, seems I was mistaken, it must have been some other character I was thinking of...

>>3124479
ZUN just goes with whatever he feels like, huh.

It would be weird if Reisen really was 40-60. That would make her possibly the youngest named youkai (even Cirno is over 60 as per PoFV).

It would also raise the question of exactly why the fuck Tewi looks so much younger than her when she's fifty times older.

It would be weird if Reisen really was 40-60. That would make her possibly the youngest named youkai (even Cirno is over 60 as per PoFV).

It would also raise the question of exactly why the fuck Tewi looks (and behaves!) so much younger than her when she's fifty times older.

>>3124457
It takes a genius to play a fool. Also see; King Lear.

>>3124478
They're the same person.

>>3124504
>It would also raise the question of exactly why the fuck Tewi looks so much younger than her when she's fifty times older.

>that would make her possibly the youngest named youkai
eh, I'm not an expert on various ages, but I'm sure that there are younger ones somewhere. ZUN does just like giving youkai really long ages. Why the hell is Aya over 1000?

>>3124517
Yeah, I just wanted to make a distinction between the two, personality-wise, since they act very differently when it comes to dialogue.

>>3124479

Well, she could have just been lying.

>>3124509

>It would also raise the question of exactly why the fuck Tewi looks (and behaves!) so much younger than her when she's fifty times older.

Physical appearance has no bearing on age for non-humans. And she's a beast youkai that probably took 1500 years to overcome a rabbit brain.

>>3124545
Yeah, but it's hard to differentiate between if it was just ZUN's whims to change it, or if it was a lie on Yuyuko's part.

>>3124356
>ZUN just parties however he wants, and supports the doujinshi scene. He takes it pretty easy when it comes to the Touhou personalities, adjusting them as he feels like. In the end, you can almost always find some sort of support "from ZUN" that goes with your idea of the character. But ZUN himself is so inconsistent, and things could go wrong with the translation, that people will end up with different ideas about the same character even though they're using the same source to back up their own interpretation.

This, I think, is the greatest strength of the Touhou mythology/franchise.

It also may be the reason why he's so reluctant to capitalize on it in the marketplace by licensing an official anime etc. He may realize that any official interpretation he could come up with simply won't be equal to the ones we have made up in our own minds.

Suddenly, 月うさぎの舞踏

>>3124546

But Tewi and Reisen are both rabbits. Sister species, even if not exactly the same kind of rabbits. Doesn't it strike you as odd that Reisen is physically and mentally mature in her 50's while Tewi after 1-3 millennia still looks and behaves like a ten year old?

>>3124583
>He may realize that any official interpretation he could come up with simply won't be equal to the ones we have made up in our own minds.
I wouldn't say that. Reading stuff from things like Magical Astronomy or CoLA...

I'd almost say that ZUN can get a kick out of reading other people's crazy ideas. Considering how he can create crazy ideas about things that exist in OUR world, he probably has his own awesome ideas about Gensokyo.

>>3124558
It's worth considering that in PCB, she's depicted as being shamelessly hedonistic (also see her comment in Reimu B's good end about the Shrine), if that helps answer your question.

>>3124617
Because Youkai don't work like people

So let me get this straight.

You guys...are saying that the ranking equivalent of an United States Marine Corps Gunnery Sargeant....

...is a shallow, one-dimensional character.

Wowee wow wow wow.

>>3124617
Please keep in mind ZUN can probably pull a Touhou out of his ass in 15 minutes.

>>3124639
It's still not entirely unreasonable that ZUN could have just changed his mind.

>>3124653

I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing or even saying anything related to this thread.

>>3124653
>Arc
why should I even bother.

>>3124705

I'm just commenting on the "HURRR, REISEN AM SHITTY CHARACTER" trolls.

>>3124705
He's just trying his best to troll.

>>3124724

I move away from the keyboard to inhale

>>3124719

I still can't tell whether you agreed or disagreed with them.

>>3124270

>>3124159
Unlike other fighting games and, for that matter, all the other touhou games.

>>3124203
She has quite a lot of background compared to other characters. It's just fanon caps at "stupid, tits."

>>3124617
Tewi began as a normal bunny and attained her power through long life. She is and is of the earth. She is all the putrefaction and guile of the earth. A trickster spirit. Be thankful when she's acting juvenile; because if she took the malicious aspect of a fox spirit we'd all be fucked.

>>3124792
Mind filling me in? I don't really know much about her other than she came to the Earth to party because of issues on the moon. Linking sources for each pert in her background would help too.

Useless bunny, only good for:
1) Unquestioning loyalty
2) Rational discourse
3) Destroying your enemies but first driving them mad
4) Sweet rabbit loving

>>3124828
THE BUNNIES FROM BRAZIL.

I prefer not to fuck genocides.

I wonder what a _useful_ bunny would be like.

>>3124766

consider my statement for a bit, and then chew on this.

When she was on the moon, she was entrusted with coordinating logistics for a company-sized group of what could very well be called their own Shock Troopers, comparable to the Nazi Stormtroopers. That's 120 of the moon's famous fighting rabbits, the elites among them no less. Wrangling them would be a job and a half.

She has combat experience - enough to have gotten several raises in rank.
She has organized Eientei's rabbits into a meager Royal Guard for Kaguya - a daunting enough task.
She has served in the conflict between the Earth and the Moon, killed her share of enemy Earthmen, and assisted in the taking and holding of several occupied facilities.

I hardly think she could be called one-dimensional, but that's just me. I am not for or against either view.

>>3124853
1_ A being capable of making Yukari and Reimu her bitches. At the same time.
2_ Pic related.

>>3124878

SSiB was a pathetic comic in general but Reisen 2 was just an insultingly bad. A non-character so devoid of any worthwhile traits that she doesn't even have a name of her own, instead riding the coattails of a much superior character.

It made wonder though, whether "Reisen" is a rank or title instead of a name, with the way they just gave it to another rabbit as if it made sense. It would put her into the interesting position where she has three "names", none of which are her actual name.

>>3124859
>killed her share of enemy Earthmen
What 'Earthmen'? Neither the Soviets nor the US lost men on the Moon.

>>3124878

SSiB was a pathetic comic in general but Reisen 2 was just insultingly bad. A non-character so devoid of any worthwhile traits that she doesn't even have a name of her own, instead riding the coattails of a much superior character.

It made me wonder though, whether "Reisen" is a rank or title instead of a name, with the way they just gave it to another rabbit as if it made sense. It would put her into the interesting position where she has three "names", none of which are her actual name.

>arc roleplaying again

>>3124891
Given that Reisen II is a raw recruit (if one from a good background entrusted to black ops), I'd suggest its some kind of lineage or honourific rather than a rank title.

Reisen is going under three assumed names. What are you hiding bunny, and where are the bodies buried.

>>3124897
I don't know. Reisen had a high rank amongst the Lunarian military, and I would certainly be surprised to know Reisen II holds the same position. She doesn't look as competent or as smart as Reisen.
Perhaps 'Udongein' is the name of that rank.

>>3124895
Don't bother. The rest is bullshit too, you know.

All this talk about war crimes makes me want to see an Ex-Reisen.

>>3124895

>What 'Earthmen'? Neither the Soviets nor the US lost men on the Moon.


You would think so.

People talk about the landing of the moon being a Hoax. Not only is it entirely factual, but only for something much, much larger.

You see, the US and the Soviet nationsstarted something up there. And it was up to the native Lunarians to finish it, before a total war between the worlds erupted.

The '60's saw the first real engagement of space-borne US troops and regimented Lunar Special Operations Command(or, LSOC)forces. A mere skirmish, they called it.

It was more like a beach-head invasion. D-Day in space, you could call it.

>>3124908

Udongein means "plantain flower" and is the nickname Eirin gave her because of the shape of her ears. Inaba is what Kaguya calls all rabbits. They're both nicknames. I had until now assumed Reisen was her real name, but now I'm not all that sure anymore.

>>3124895
Pathetic cover story is pathetic.

>>3124904
Not three, but two.
And 'Udongein' might be her rank. I think 'Inaba' is a common name shared by all Earth rabbits, and Reisen adopted that as a symbol of her breakup with the Moon.

Perhaps 'Reisen' is the name of that Lunarian special forces, and its members call themselves that to conceal their identities.

>>3124921
That's some X Files shit right there.
But Humanity is as ill prepared to start an Earth-Moon war now as it was 40 years ago.

>>3124927

Rabbits are usually designated by number and do not ordinarily have actual names. Rei means Zero as we all know, which is usually only given to LSOC personnel who have shown exemplary skill and means on the field of battle. It can also be earned through an exemplary service to the Crown. Sen, is, of course, self-explanatory.

Reisen is her real name...

>>3124972
Keep lying to yourself.

>>3124944


The Cronus Assault Carrier, known to civilians under the codename SATURN V Rocket, remains one of our most robust, solid troopships.

Whereas the Royal Lunar Navy has thousands of ships and an ungodly amount of Landing craft. Needless to say, if every single Destroyer, Battleship, and Dreadnought the Navy owned were to turn its weapons on the Earth, exactly zero humans would survive the orbital bombardment.

The Lunarians call their heavily armoured and armed battleships "Planet Crackers" for just this reason. Sustained bombardment by one Royal Lunar Navy battleship can crack the crust of a planet in mere hours.

And while the 'Saturn V' is many years old, the Royal Lunar Navy is constantly upgrading and improving their fleet. Old ships are broken up for scrap and fuel, new ships are hammered out at drive yards.

I needn't go into detail about the Dreadnoughts.

>>3124985
How come they didn't attack us?
If they are so pacifist, why so large and powerful a Navy?

>>3125018
Lunarians are internally divided to the point that they seek to constantly murder each other. See the flight of Eirin and Kaguya.

>>3124110
op can u giv me more info plox
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http://www.ApeTalk.com/, pe = non

>>3125018

>how come they don't attack us

One, because that navy is fragmented. The Lunar Empire needs an Empress, and the one who must become the Empress is currently in a prison colony.(The official designation for Earth)

As such, the Royal Lunar Navy has become broken into bits, as the respective lords and ladies of the moon, Kaguya's would-be council, withdraw their ships. Each now spends more time arguing and making false alliances with each other, more than anything else. This means that the Navy cannot be massed for an all-out attack, if its owners cannot agree with each other.

They very nearly agreed to an alliance against the Earth, but for the best of us all, they did not.

Secondly, wasting the lives of civilians - even if they are filthy prisoners - is too much of a coarse action for the aristocratic, noble Lunar society. Earth would have to severely anger the Lunarians in order to call down their wrath.

>>3125041

Also, have you ever wondered why SETI doesn't find any extra-terrestrials?

That's all thanks to the impressive power of the Royal Lunar Navy. When they were united, no pirate vessels dared even skip close to the Sol system. The Lunarians are fierce combatants indeed.

So naturally, no one will interfere with us.

That faggot is playing pretend as usual, the real reason Lunarians never attack anyone is that they have pretty much no reason to (other than giving a "don't fuck with us" message. ) Lunarian territory is "pure" (hence why no one dies despite being human, entropy and decay is presumably negated within Lunarian borders) and they wouldn't gain much from conquering Earth because they cannot even expand their territory. If they wanted to do it, they'd take you know, the rest of the moon first.

Read Cage in Lunatic Runagate for the "ZUN canon" of it but then ZUN's works also claim fossils are fallen deities so don't expect anything to make sense.

And now, some old copypasta regarding a RLN ship.

Yagokoro-Class Support Battlecruiser

Heavily armored, heavily shielded, and ponderously sized, Yagokoro-class battlecruisers maintain the fleet in the line of battle, supplying power to other ships' defensive shields and repairing any damage suffered to their hull with its regenerative field. Their crews usually include up to fifty Lunarians, more than on most ships, and the arcane technology they carry usually requires the touch of a highly experienced scholar and magic user. The Lunarians are also expected to receive casualties from the surface, or from badly damaged vessels in the line, and tend to their wounds.
The importance of their crew means a crippling blow when one of these ships are lost.
Yagokoro-Class Battlecruisers are not well equipped for attack, and will suffer if thrust into an enemy fleet's range without support. With only four plasma cannons and six Flak turrets, it does as much damage as a ship four times smaller, but its support abilities are where it truly shines.

>>3125090

The Yagokoro-Class battlecruiser can emit a regenerative field that gradually repairs the hulls of damaged friendly vessels over time. This is an invaluable asset to ships under heavy fire, allowing them to stay in the line for a while longer. Yagokoro-class battlecruisers can also restore the shields of a downed enemy vessel, even if that particular vessel has been hit with a direct EMPC blast. This only works on one vessel at a time, so the Lunarians aboard must use strategy in deciding which ships need its power.

Within the four-layer reinforced hull, scholars and magicians from the Moon's capital city tend to the casualties of battle, ensure that the ship is in working order, and keep vigil over the fleet. The requirements for becoming part of a Yagokoro-class Battlecruiser's crew are incredibly high, and generally only the oldest, wisest, and most experienced of Lunarians are given the posts. These standards do not apply to the bunnygirls, as they are relegated to basic shipboard duties.

Yagokoro-Class Support Battlecruisers bear the name of one of the Moon Capital's founding members, and her legacy of Lunarian science and technology lives on in the ways they carry out their daily duties as a capital ship. Many critics consider them to be dated, aging vessels from a past era, but they are still used by the Royal Lunar Navyy and produced by shipyards here and there. Despite their age, they are always welcome additions to a line of a battle, and their presence brings a soothing effect to the fleet. Upon seeing the white hull, striped with blue and white along its side, a downed soldier can feel relieved, knowing that she will soon be healed by the Moon's most experienced, and given a snug, warm bed in the vast Infirmary.

Arcueid, you a crazy bitch.

>>3125126

I read too much 'X-Wing' by Michael Stackpole.

>>3125132
I would not have figured you for a Star Wars nerd.

So, how does the Crimson Moon fit into all this?

>>3125161

I fucking LOVE Star Wars, but that's beside the point.

Nasuverse does not exist in Touhouverse.

>>3125179
Of course it does. All fictional storylines occur simultaneously.

We flood the space with nuclear weapons. Problem solved.
Or, if that fails, Descent: Freespace up in this motherfucker.

>>3125216
Why? If there's one thing that Touhou has taught me is we throw magical girls against the moon in their thousands, difficulty level after difficulty level, until we get all the Lunarian's spell cards and defeat their ex Boss.

>>3125216
>Or, if that fails, Descent: Freespace
Explain, please.

>>3124133
Don't be stupid.

Arc do you write touhou fanfic.

Because I think you could write some pretty awesome stuff.

>>3125267

No. I want to, and I wrote a lot of schematics, data, and other information in note-form about the Lunar Empire, but I don't have the time.

I

>>3125275
Yo, arc, did you made this pic?

>>3125365

Those blasted Americans!

>>3125365

Nope, but that inspired me.

So what you're saying is that none of you know about the Soviet invasion of the moon then?

Topic ruined.

Is there a translationout for SWR?

>>3126226
http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/961
Here.

Reisen is basically the lunar bunny equivalent of... let's see... some sort of Soviet commando raised without motherly affection in far Siberia, brought up on a diet of steroids, black pudding and little baby fingers.

But there's been a lot of that in the thread already, so have some affectionate Reisen instead.

>>3125275

Speaking of which, what is the Soviet equivalent of the Cronus called again? Koschei?

>Reisen is basically the lunar bunny equivalent of... let's see... some sort of Soviet commando raised without motherly affection in far Siberia, brought up on a diet of steroids, black pudding and little baby fingers.

lolwut?

>>3126837

▲ I challenge you!!!

>>3126837
>>3126837

If you're talking about the armored, weaponized gunbus of a space station that the Soviets engineered, then perhaps so.

Glad you made it into the thread. I have posted up some of my details on the Moon's forces, as you might notice.

>>3126885

Hmm... not sure, think we need to sort out the terminology.
Does "Cronus" refer to the entire Saturn V, or only to the uppermost stages with the actual fighting compartments?

>>3126847

I believe she is referencing the SPETSNAZ, whose equivalent on the moon would be the LSOC Recon Strike Teams. RST Commandos like Reisen are trained specifically for Counter-Terrorism, reconaissance(of course), wetwork, black ops, unconventional warfare. They are not, however, involved in espionage - that's for an entirely different arm, They are, amongst other things, trained to withstand enemy interrogation.

>>3126906

The name is, as we all know, a reference to the god of mythos who swallowed his children and was later forced to vomit them out.

In the same frame of reference, the CAC is equipped to carry a small vessel similar to the Koschei, which it then expels into space. Refer to the Saturn INT-21, which carried the Skylab up into the air, it was what inspired the idea.

The Saturn that we are familiar with, the one that was publicized, is a test rocket and actually very wasteful since it only carries a landing module, plus an orbiter.

The CRONUS does away with both of these and simply carries up one big orbital station in similar vein to Skylab, but reinforced and plated with heat-resistant tiling so that it can land on the Lunar surface, then get back up just as easily.

While it cannot carry more than a squad and the pilots who fly it, there is room to carry equipment, or even very light armor, on the outrigging. This is crucial, because without proper Anti-Air defenses, all the Lunarians would need to do is call in some snubfighters from their carriers or battleships and have them strafe. Which would not be good for our soldiers.

>>3126960
>>3126906

So, in retrospect, the CAC is the entire rocket, including the station, which is technically one of its stages.

>>3126915 SPETZNAS
Space Gnatsies?

Serious exchange of information, in my /jp/?

>>3126965

>Space Nazis

No, no, no! That's the Helghast. I understand the similarity to the moon bunnies, especially since they both wear crisp, fascistic uniforms, gas masks, and have bright red eyes, but the Lunar Empire is in no way similar to the National Socialists of Germany.

>>3126966
>Arcueid Brunestud
>serious
Uu~

I do wonder what the reasoning was for the creation of such a large Lunarian force. The Earth isn't much of a threat at all, and certainly wouldn't justify such a large expenditure. Jovians might be a plausible threat, but since they're essentially just large gas bags, they really don't have much interest in rocky worlds like the Moon. Extra-solar and trans-dimensional threats are extremely hard to quantify, and in all likelihood would be so powerful as to just roll right over the lunar armada. Even a fairly simple four dimensional approach would bypass a lot of the Lunarian's defenses, as when Yukari just just jumped her forces right to the Moon's surface, completely skipping the Lunarian space armada.

>>3126966
>Arc
>serious exchange of information

Yeah, right.

>>3127025
Space Armada = Lunarian Penis Size

>>3126993
Hey whats up. I think Reisen is only good for her looks. Like most other Touhous. Except for the touhous that have amusing personalities. Like me. Pic related.

>>3126964

Ahh, I see.
Then in that case, "Koschei" would refer to the entire N1A1 package, including the lifter and everything. Unless Soviet classification differs.

Concerning why it had so much trouble getting off the ground... well. Let's just say that in a setting where the pan-Asian mythical horned ogres are real, building a rocket site in Ukraine is inviting trouble.

>>3126987
>That's the Helghast

thats a funny way of saying Zeon

Lunarians are a bunch of pretentious faggots..would gladly kick their ass again and make them eat shit.

>>3127025

>Extra-solar and trans-dimensional threats are extremely hard to quantify, and in all likelihood would be so powerful as to just roll right over the lunar armada.

I wouldn't be so quick to say that, considering the might and power of the Royal Lunar Navy. Even a single task force, led by one battleship and a few support ships, would be deadly to any fleet of raiders or marauding pirates who had amassed their forces. And also, should the Moon be under significant thread, their Navy will reassemble themselves in full force to repel the threat.

I have mentioned before that the reason why SETI cannot find any extraterrestrial is due to the vigilance of the Royal Lunar Navy regarding our space. No one dares contact us unless they are exceptionally foolish.

>I do wonder what the reasoning was for the creation of such a large Lunarian force

A long time ago, the Lunarians made total war with their neighbors, wiped them out, and established a mighty empire over every arm of our galaxy. The years of decadence and splendor led to it crumbling from within, as so many other empires have done over the centuries. Eventually the other races rushed in to retake what was theirs.. In the end, Eirin assembled a fleet and escaped to the Sol system, and you know the rest of the story.

War and the business of it comes very easily to them. They are a proud, aristocratic, aggressive folk that make war upon themselves as easily as they do with their neighbors. Contempt and indifference to the Prison Colony(Earth)keeps them from conquering us. They believe we have poisoned our planet.

> Even a fairly simple four dimensional approach would bypass a lot of the Lunarian's defenses, as when Yukari just just jumped her forces right to the Moon's surface, completely skipping the Lunarian space armada.

You may well remember they were instantly repelled by the Lunarian ground forces. It was a bloody rout.
It is canonical within the ZUNiverse that they possess weapons of immense power and might - I merely filled in the blanks a little as to why, how, and the way they work. You needn't take my expanding of his universe seriously, but it's something to think about.

>>3127040

That, and the Soviets took so long to get their shit together that by the time the United States said 'Fuck this we're not risking having the planet glassed' that they simply went home and drank vodka.

They had the right idea, though. Too bad they took so long to jump on the bandwagon.

WALLS OF TEXT

>>3127091

The bot may imitate my name, but it certainly cannot imitate my prolific writing, it seems.

Feed it Leo Tolstoy!

4chan never fails to amaze me first post is about reisen and last one is about soviets

>>3127076

It would appear that the Lunarians are still in a state of decline. Such a badly fragmented state, combined with arrogance among the aristocracy, would effectively prevent any progress towards the reestablishment of a galactic nation. It may well be that the only reason that nobody's conquered the Lunarians yet is that they've still got a lot of ships from the old empire. "Improvements" on the newer ships may be largely superficial, or outright propaganda to make the populace believe that the military is growing stronger, not weaker. When the resources of the galaxy were at their command, much more could have been done that with the resources of a few meager planets. Simply maintaining the fleet with what's in Sol probably isn't possible, and the fact so many ships are still operational is more a testament to the original builders than to the scraps of the old empire that are left.

The SETI information blackout might be just as much to help control their own populace. Who wants to know that they could get obliterated at any time? Better to keep up the morale by pointing out how superior they are to the prison colony, and it actually lets us get away with a lot more since we're such a great distraction from all the real problems they've got. For all we know, the galaxy might be in the process of being conquered by another intergalactic power that's not so hung up on old prides and glories. It makes me wonder if the information block isn't two-way, so massive war fleets passing by won't notice that there's a juicy prize of old imperial technology hanging around. The Oort cloud might not be a fully natural occurrence, but a series of cloaking satellites placed to effectively hide the presence of planets. Who'd want to stop by a dinky mainline sequence star when they're a dime a dozen, especially when it appears to be uninhabitable?

Since some people have been asking,

>Wow, these rabbits sure have a lot of power! Why don't they take Earth?

That's like asking the United States why they don't pack their shit up and go to Africa. Or why Russia doesn't take Chernobyl back.

No one wants to set foot on a polluted planet meant for holding dangerous convicts. There's nothing to gain from Earth. There's nothing that would better the Moon's cause by going to Earth. It would be a gigantic waste of Lunar resources and funding, all for what? To prove their superiority over some undermen who haven't even achieved supra-light speed travel?

They bloodied the Earth's nose for a bit after the first invasion by the US, but that was more of a small feud between two countries and not an all out World War. The only thing that even caused the Lunarians to attack the Earthlings were the deaths of several bunnygirls. They could not stand by and do nothing about this.

>>3127186
>>3127186


>it may well be that the only reason that nobody's conquered the Lunarians yet is that they've still got a lot of ships from the old empire

If they did, the US would never have been able to even land on the Moon. The old Lunar Empire's dreadnoughts were a truly frightening prospect. They could send entire star systems into supernova simply by launching torps at its core.

By comparison, the modern Royal Lunar Navy can only crack a planet's crust.

The society on the moon is essentially made up of a bunch of refugees who fled their homes after their own empire turned on itself and began to rebuild a shadow of their former glory. ZUN goes into this in detail, so I won't bore you by retelling the story.

Also, the rest of the galaxy has more important things to worry about than an antiquarian little colony with delusions of grandeur. For a colony, the Lunarians are extremely powerful, and could very well move out of system if they so wished, but no one can figure out how to do this. Their governmental system is nothing without Kaguya, and without a solid infrastructure, the Lunar nobility fights amongst itself. So, nothing gets done.

If, hypothetically, Kaguya were crowned the Empress and work was begun on conquering the Galaxy again, then we might see the old glory.

Further, the Sol system's massive belt of asteroids provides more than enough resources for the Moon, to say nothing of the comets(dirty snowballs)and Solar energy that can be converted into power.
And the Lunarians are far beyond the stages of using crude solar panels to gather energy from the Sun.

They have enough of their own resources, and reuse their energy in far more efficient ways than we do. Old ships are broken up into scrap and used to build new ones. Water is taken from asteroids, as well as precious metals and crystals. Unfortunately, the bureaucratic mess on the Moon firmly prevents anyone from bringing up the idea of expansion, as it is impossible to get a full agreement on anything.

>>3127227
That does make sense, though it means the decline in technology and power is even further along that I thought. The only possibility I see as to why we're still around is that the old empire, at its height, was so powerful that it drove away every other possible threat. Unfortunately, while this safe "sphere" (actually a multidimensional region that encompassed the old empire and whatever buffer zones they deemed necessary) allows for a certain period to pass before significant threats reappear, it's still a race against time. Other empires surely exist among the local galaxy cluster, and who knows what dwells beyond the cleared extra-dimensional space. It's not a question of if such nations and horrors will come across us, but when. If the Lunarians aren't going to get their act together, then to use an allegory, someone else is going to have to step up to the plate before we lose the game.

>>3124952
Soldier with legendary skills you say?
Reisen for Moon's Big Boss

>>3126837

Reisen is running from her past, not just physically by hiding on Earth, but also in her mind. There is a critical mass of atrocities where a mind just has to start denying them or break down under their weight. The lovable and caring Reisen we know is an elaborate self-deception, the sum of what she wishes she could be instead of what she really is.

So far the illusion has held, but if it ever breaks down, we will see why Luna has a permanent "kill on sight" order on her.

I don't know what's happening anymore.

Arc's spouting some crazy bullshit while getting angry at other people for spouting their own crazy bullshit, Arc being a faggot in general, anonymous posters in /jp/ being faggots in general (myself included), ZUN loving, Reisen hating, and Reisen loving.

>>3127383
We really need to teach newbies to stop replying to Arc (Althought knowing him he'd just reply to himself, hell, he might be doing it right now.) It's getting ridiculous even for /jp/ standards.

>This thread

lies LIES IT'S ALL LIES shut up SHUT UP

Arcueid is the best touhou

Everything is fine, Reisen. You are with friends and they love you.
You have not betrayed everything you swore to protect. Generations do not curse your name. Your old title is not used as a mark of shame, given to the most incompetent rabbit in the force.
Everything is just fine.

>>3127523
Stop trolling. But I do agree with you, though. Arc is an awesome touhou. But not that "other" arc, the one I filtered. Useless trolling faggot.

>>3127547
I would be the best touhou.

I love this thread. <3

...
Has anyone ever come up with a justifiable reason why the English community can't post the endings? I'm pretty sure ZUN doesn't give a fuck about us considering 99% of us STEAL ALL HIS WORK. But no, can't post the endings!

>>3127781

It's just so that more people would actually play the games. A countermeasure against secondary fans, if you will.

>>3127797
But even terrible players can beat the game on easy. Hell, even I can do that. Not to mention the 'ending' dialogues to the extra stages is allowed to be posted, even though most players will never legitimately see that on their own.

>>3127807
>But even terrible players can beat the game on easy
You don't get (good) endings in most games on Easy mode, though.

>>3127781

True artists don't care about money.
Even more so living Gods.

People actually care about the endings?

>Your old title is ... used as a mark of shame, given to the most incompetent rabbit in the force.

You know, that would actually explain Reisen II.

Arc, I love ya and I hate ya.

Zun has not been sober since mystic square. Discuss

>>3127151

>4chan never fails to amaze me first post is about reisen and last one is about soviets

It sort of comes naturally when a big part of the character's story involves the US waging war on the moon at the height of the cold war.

>>3127932
Aren't fans the only one who dislike Reisen II? I don't recall any animosity from her owners. It seemed more like they were naming her Reisen in honor of their former pet. Although I also haven't read that bit of SSiB in a long time.

>>3127781
ZUN does not want endings posted on sites like Futaba. He wants people to actually play the game and not skip to the reward (inb4 comments that endings are vapid and a shitty reward). The English community, most significantly the wiki, decided to abide by this as well even though ZUN likely wouldn't care. Plus I doubt Futaba really cares about posting endings; try posting a picture from the Japanese ending of one of the game with no comment and see how they react.

>>3128526

Also, one of the possible meanings of "Reisen" is "cold war".

>>3128657

They didn't look angry at her, but I do have to wonder why they would choose to bestow any kind of a special honor on a rabbit who seemed incapable of finding her ass with both hands and a star map.

>>3129205
In all fairness to her, a star map wouldn't help very much if she's looking for her ass.

>>3129254
thatsthejoke.jpg

>>3129259
You're deliberately being obtuse, aren't you?

>>3129205
Are you talking about 鈴仙 or レイセン now?

Where are all these people getting "story" and "personality" from? Reisen was a stage 5 boss with crazy eyes.

>>3129497

Reisen has appeared in three games, several canon fanbooks and comics, and is the main star in one of the comics.

However, most of the above is just people making shit up. ;_;

>>3129520

Parts are true. Like how Reisen really regrets her past and is extra careful to not ruin her new life because of that.

I love this thread
>>3129520
Yeah, Reisen is probably one of the more developed Touhous