/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>30908112
Isn't that the point of evolution?

>>30908112
everything changes overtime anon

All this shitty vtuber mess but still no Tesagure successor. What's it take to put these hos on TV?

>>30909647
>evolution
look where evolution got us.
top of the fucking world.
next step, the universe.

>>30908112
>yukkuri faggots still too shy to show their faces/voices at all

their very essence is stagnation. Meanwhile live streamers and vtubers have leapfrogged to a next level

>>30908112
Yukkuri streamers do it for fun, vt*ber streamers are scientifically designed to maximize money from paypigs and superberries.

>>30913188
Another highway, another state.

I always wanted to watch those funny text-to-speech videos of yukkuris playing games on niconico but I don't know japanese...

>>30913961
Even if you know japanese you still won't understand them. There's a reason all the videos have subtitles.

>>30908112
I agree

ogey

>>30908112
Vtuberfags must die

>>30913188
vtubers are the newest low otaku culture has cultivated. no passion, no engagement, just idiots obsessing over boardroom picked anime avatars talking over video games.

>>30913188
That's not even true, though. only 5% of vtubers are corporate and even of the ones that are not all of them even have a way to give them money. The other 7 thousand are just dudes and girls who made a facerig of a model in koikatsu and decided to fuck around with it

everyone on the jay just needs to take it easy

>>30918283
but they're cute...

>>30908112
ogey

>>30934864
thanks friend!

>>30935028
there are a million more cute otaku things to obsess over

>>30938534
who cares? as long as you have fun, thats what matters right?

>>30918283
it's not even otaku culture

people that watch vtubers are mentally I'll

>>30934864
But you can't take it easy with holofags around.

>>30945809
Why has the phrase "take it easy" been co-opted by the most tight-arsed killjoys on the internet

>>30946729
They don't know what it means.

>>30918283
vtubers are fucking revolting
They are literally just twitch streamers hiding behind a 2D face to trick retards into thinking they are a cute anime girl
There is literally no otaku culture involved except complete and utter lies

Take the technology away and there is nothing left except some 3D twat

>>30935028
They are not cute, vtubers are built on deception and you deserve to be ridiculed for having no self respect. Lower than people donating money on chaturbate

>>30942990
This, that's why the janitors love them.

>>30941517
go do drugs then

>>30946729
>>30947430
You need to establish an easy place to take it easy
/jp/ can't take it easy around holofags for the same reason they can't take it easy at a bar surrounded by normies talking about their jobs

The foundation of taking it easy is built on easy places where one can actually take it easy. When /jp/ is filled with new crossboarders with no respect for native culture and interests, then there is no easiness to be had.

This is why /jp/ pines for a mansion to drink tea in with like minded individuals. Those dreamlike days are gone...

>>30951649
but drugs are american culture, not otaku culture

>>30956857
But you're wrong
drugs is yakui
yakui is nijiura maid
maids are otaku culture
therefore, drugs are otaku culture.

>>30951526
>stop liking what I don't like
go back to /v/ and stay there

>>30951971
Send them feedbacks and hope for the best.

Unless the homo lifers start spamming the entire site, forcing the mods to take action, that's all we can do, really.

>>30958085
He's not wrong. /v/tubershit will never be accepted

>>30958145
>start spamming the entire site
i really hope it doesn't come to that point though, would hate to see a jp like that

First the boat girls and didn't care at the least, then the airplanes and tank girls I couldn't care less. Holo came in, I'm totally immersed, what happened? I don't even check the touhou tag anymore...

>>30918283
>>30942990
>>30951526
>>30958145
>>30958294
Chill

>>30958826
We're waiting for you to "chill" first

>>30942990
>people that watch vtubers are mentally I'll
you'll do what, anon?

>>30951526

you are 10000% correct

fuck vtubers and everyone that gives them views

>>30958826
based

>>30913188
>>30918283
>>30951526
>>30960426
>>30942990
dilate

>>30961050
>>30961098
Truly the worst posters of all of jaypee. Vtuberfags are not capable of taking it easy.

Ever since learning japanese and getting to a good level to browse and enjoy japanese touhou forums I've begun to despise /jp/. There's only so many image dumps devoid of any meaningful discussion that one man can take. That's 99% of /jp/ aside from the non-touhou stuff. Admit it: /jp/ sucks and it also sucked during those dreamlike days you keep longing for, mostly because this board is and has always been EOP-central. I can't discuss untranslated doujins. I can't discuss news about the scene without translating statements first. Because if I don't, some EOP faggot is going to come in and opine without having read a lick of what I'm talking about.

nijisanji thread, those vtuber postsrs you hate so much, probably has the most concentrated amount of japanese literates on this god forsaken board. Aside from the odd holofag that wanders in to shit up the thread, I'm gonna have to say it's the best of what /jp/ offers right now because it doesn't have as many EOPs.

>>30951971
>>30958145
>>30958294
r/the_donald failed at taking over 4chan, kancolle failed at taking over /jp/
These people will fail too.

>>30961237
>>30961319
dilate

>>30961098
>>30961364
no matter how much you donate, she will never notice you

>>30961246
>probably has the most concentrated amount of japanese literates on this god forsaken board
Nijisanji and the vtubers general maybe, but the loud and obnoxious Holofags are also part of you.

>>30961448
dilate

>>30961246
So? A paypig fluent in Japanese that watches twitch streams is still a paypig that watches twitch streams.

>>30961246
What forums do you suggest reading? I only read Touhou-Ura and I can already tell that that place is 100x better than /jp/.

>>30961246
If you actually think that EOPs are the main problem then I feel bad for you. Just admit that you grew apart from us. You forgot how to take it easy and that's why you depise us.

>>30961740
>I only read Touhou-Ura and I can already tell that that place is 100x better than /jp/.
Is there an archive of it? I'm stressed thinking of all the OC they make and I never get to save in time.

so does anyone actually want to talk about yukkuri or is this thread just for complaining about vt*bers

>>30963022
The yukkuri thread is elsewhere.

My main point with the previous post is that /jp/sies can't put themselves above vtuber posters. You smell different but stink all the same.
>>30961455
Yeah, and there's a lot of obnoxious trannies that are into touhou too. There are always going to be bad apples, nothing you can do about it.
>>30961662
vtubing and japanese streaming in general isn't just twitch but in japanese. I don't think you know much about it, otherwise you wouldn't think to make that comparison.
>>30961740
>>30961787
Touhou-ura is good, but when I said forum it was also short hand for "everywhere else touhou is discussed". Search <board-name>ログ if you want the archive of a board.
>>30961787
Maybe. But this place would be better if I could actually talk about the 90% of touhou fanworks that are left untranslated, you can see why it drives me up the wall when nobody replies to my threads when I make them and flan feet stays up for weeks.

>>30961246
>I can't discuss untranslated doujins. I can't discuss news about the scene without translating statements first. Because if I don't, some EOP faggot is going to come in and opine without having read a lick of what I'm talking about.
Nobody is stopping you from doing any of that.

God, think that all of the problems of /jp/ could be avoided if moot had more than 2 brain cells.

>>30964141
If he had more than 2 braincells, there wouldn't be a /jp/ or an /h/ or an /e/. It would be /a/ - anime/general, /a20/ - 20th century anime, /m/ mecha, and /as/ - seasonal

>>30951971
>>30946729
>Send them feedbacks
The very feedback you're talking about is useless, you can blame your own meidos for this, they not only reduced the post limit from 5000 to 4000 etc. all the way down to 1500 but also decided to give multiple stickies in the span of a year to one of the slowest boards, which results in holofags(myself) sometimes bumping off touhou threads with 5-6 threads at once extremely often since there is 220+ IPs in both threads afterall, which perpetuates a stigma between 2hufags and holofags, whereas most of them are crossboarders(see election day 4chan stats where /jp/ dropped to 55% in activity) they see it as XDDDD FUNNY TROLL because anons have strife about what's happening, hell. look at the state of the board since august, there's been countless holofags raiding threads and making OPs outside of the containment threads going into them(what's happening right now) but I guess there's a certain irony to the fags who used to spam /a/ in 2010 getting their just desserts.
Everyone just needs to take it easy.

>>30964774
Whoops, I was quoting >>30958145

>>30961246
I don't get this post. You're infuriated of EOPs talking about english-translated content in a website that mainly speaks english? And then compare it to Japanese forums that talk about Japanese content?
Man, swedish Touhou fans are probably mad that they can't talk about that swedish Touhou comic with anyone here and /jp/ is all full of EOPs and people that's learning to speak Japanese. If they do talk about it it'll probably end up just being shitposted to oblivion.
What a shame. What a shame indeed. /jp/ sucks.

Also, anyone that says their threads don't stay up very long in /jp/ I already don't believe. Every thread that's not hololive lasts forever in this place, my references thread is still alive and I haven't even posted in it for a long time.

>>30964731
are we discussing /a/ meta now because I don't have time for that. if we go by your suggestion(ignoring the topics this board covers), then things would be even more fucked up.
We need more japanese culture boards. We need to break up /jp/. I don't care about that crap moot has been repeating about "too niche", he's gone and we have had just 4 video game boards added recently. We could start with a Touhou board (better late than never), and all the other generals could get a board or two as well. Fuck generals, this is an imageboard not a chatroom.
The last addition to the Japanese Culture board happened 12 years ago. And the purpose of that board was to get rid of all the stuff that moot didn't want on /a/. Not a very good common ground for a board.

>>30908112
cope

>>30963641
>/jp/sies can't put themselves above vtuber posters. You smell different but stink all the same.
You're a fucking retard. Why are you still posting here at this point?

>>30964774
>Everyone just needs to take it easy.
See here >>30945809
Me taking it easy doesn't change the fact that I'll always hate you and treat you like shit.

>>30957893
This guy knows what's up
He's a truOtaku

>>30963022
It’s complaining about vtubers despite, ironically, the Vtuber posters being friendlier than the other anons.

I’m gonna let the thread boil down into this, because both of y’all are exactly the same with how people got interested in it, and yet you both refuse to acknowledge it. Stop fighting, and /jp/ can be at peace for once. I beg you

>>30969172
>It’s complaining about vtubers despite, ironically, the Vtuber posters being friendlier than the other anons
Yeah and that's because their cancerous buzzword posts have already been deleted. Why should we be friendly to someone that we don't respect?

>>30969386
why should we even be fighting when there was attempts to have friendly discussion with >>30909898 and >>30934864 and >>30941517

>>30969334
Kill yourself, iphone teen

>dumbshits in this thread unironically think 東方裏 is good

ultimate fucking cope
biggest "hurr I just learned Japanese now I'm better than you /jp/ fucks" elitism I've seen

you probably just started lurking there
at least futaba is smart enough to have a separate Vtuber board, unlike us

>>30969439
those are just defeatism posts

>just accept vtubers
no

>>30969439
>friendly discussion
>defeatism posts
quoting >>30969803.

>>30970052
still no

I saw this thread at the bottom of page 9 with about 17 posts the other day, and now I see it has 70 because holofags are fucking children and I guess are going to take it to bump limit now that they got insulted again.

>>30942990
I'll what anon, finish your sentence

Meido is a retard more news at 11

I hate vtubers and the idiocy behind it but I can't stop watching that dumb rabbit with the stupid laugh.
How do I stop?

It's funny that the fanbases most coddled by mods thinks they are out to get them.
No one in this website gets as many privileges as touhoufags, if the mods truly wanted to fuck them over all they would need to do is to stop pandering to them.

>>30978366
Do you even how know hated mods and jannies are by /jp/sies? They're one of the main reasons why /jp/ turned to shit in the first place.

>>30978366
they appear to have more "privileges" because the board was literally created to contain them. holofags were just haphazardly crammed here under a year ago. touhou fans aren't the only ones suffering either. remember the OC threads? pretty much extinct now since they can't have it up for over 19 hours before being pushed into oblivion by all the hololive threads.

>>30978366
Holoshitters are completely coddled by the mods
They even make new stickies for new holofags regularly

In fact, literally the ONLY reason vtubers are here is because of the mods forced them into /jp/

This thread isn't very good

>>30979861
>OC threads
Holo generals make the most OCs nowadays, and >>30965016 has a point, this board is full of random holos threads, pretty much nothing changed.

>>30980836
>They even make new stickies for new holofags regularly
This is a lie. This only happen when there's a new debut, which is not regularly.

>In fact, literally the ONLY reason vtubers are here is because of the mods forced them into /jp/
So? Vtubers are part of otaku culture regardless of your opinion.

>>30969507
Nice, we could have two dead boards, cool.

No fighting on Yogiri's graduation day, ok? Be friends

>>30981264
Vtubers aren't a part of otaku culture regardless of your opinion
They belong on /v/ or their own board

They literally play minecraft and Cyberpunk and other trash
Those aren't /jp/ games at all

Having an anime girl avatar doesn't instantly make it otaku culture. That would be like saying Genshin Impact or gacha is otaku culture.

>>30981529
Anon, it's a japanese phenomenon, it's an otaku subculture. They play western video games, so what? They're related to japanese animations, japanese songs, and play a bunch of japanese video games if that's the problem.

>Having an anime girl avatar doesn't instantly make it otaku culture
Coming to Hololive, they're a just a new type of idol group, that's it. It's evolulion, it all started with vocaloids, and here we are. You of all people know that vtubering wouldn't happen in any other place that isn't Japan. Don't like it? Don't watch it, you have other subcultures to enjoy.

>They belong on /v/ or their own board
Again, it's a dumb thing to say, two dead boards is the solution? You all need to chill, no one is gonna submit to such stupid act just because some people feel invaded. This in-fighting is meaningless, 2hus are fine, the entire board is all about them, even in the vtubers generals there are 2hufags such as myself.

>>30982321
https://youtu.be/2CxhOJtdW3k
https://youtu.be/9kQ2GtvDV3s

>>30969507
if it is so bad why the fuck do I constantly save shit posted there

>>30978044
just have fun? Thats all that matters if you watch vtubers. we all share the same interests, but its dumb tribalism at its best

>>30980836
>In fact, literally the ONLY reason vtubers are here is because of the mods forced them into /jp/
Clarification, the vtuber threads were born on /jp/. Kizuna Ai had some threads on /a/ but surprisingly was not kicked out to /jp/, someone on /jp/ just made a general for her halfway through '17 and that's how it all started. Now, Hololive is a different story entirely. Long and short is yeah, they're getting coddled by mods, but they're not from /jp/. I feel bad for the meidos who actually care who have to deal with /v/ mods.

>>30983842
>tribalism
You retards literally came into a thread to spam it up until some other retards picked up and turned it into another bi-weekly metathread about shoving your favorite youtubers down our throats. Just like how you'd be annoyed if 90% of the posts in your thread were about Syamu or Hikakin, nobody here gives a rats ass about your idols.

>>30984280
people come here more for the idols than 2hu's now.

>>30984353
/v/ermin aren't people.

>>30981264
I'd like to see some evidence of OC that isn't just a screencap of a vtuber avatar looking smug.

>>30984428
then what explains the influx of /v/ threads related to 2hu? Just asking a question because everything is /v/ now

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>>30984454
They make Gosling edits. He's basically the new frog.

>>30984524
global isnt associated with us. theres weekly drawing posts anyways with anons in the threads

>MuH SeCriT cLUB

No cares, gramps.

>>30984546
The idea that you believe a thread on the same board with the same name doesn't share anything with you only further proves the idea that you're the exact same. Garbage doesn't want to admit its garbage.

>>30980836
A majority of the girls in Hololive could have been discussed here freely in the NND threads all the way back. I don't see how adding the anime avatar changes that.
And don't try to deny how coddled touhoufags are. There are five fucking Patchouli threads up right now, more than the current amount of Vtubers threads up. You literally couldn't get away with this type of shit in any other board over any other topic.
And if you don't think this is the case, then please ask the mods to allow everyone to make threads out of the generals and to lift all limiters of JP related discussion, even if its multiple fetish threads over the same character.
But you won't ask that, because you know how quickly Touhou would vanish from the catalogue without mods forcing it, since the last worthwhile thing in the franchise was LoLK and even that was still was mostly style over substance.

>>30985015
you do the exact same with idols, so we arent allowed to play the same card?

>>30985101
See what I mean? You're the same brand of garbage you claim you're not. The second you get compared to it, you immediately lash out with a strawman. Idol threads are mocked here as well, and even a month of lurking on /jp/ proper would tell you that, but unfortunately your ilk is too retarded to even conceive of that possibility.

>>30985172
rules for me, except for thee.

>>30985172
Imagine being this much of a sperg about having to share your beloved /2hu/ full of mentally ill ritual posters with other otaku who happen to have different otaku interests and overwhelmingly keep to their generals
Seems pretty clear to me who isn't "taking it easy"

>>30985035
I don't get why your puzzled over the touhou shitpost board containing touhou shitposts? that's pretty much what this place was made to contain.

>>30985717
yeah, english streamers playing western games is about as "otaku culture" as belle delphine. go "imagine" somewhere else

>>30985902
we dont condone global anyway

>>30985902
Should have said nyanners, because shes a vtuber now.

>>30985717
are these the people who "overwhelmingly keep to their generals?"

>>30985717
>Imagine being this much of a sperg about having to share your beloved /2hu/ full of mentally ill ritual posters
Please take a look at your own general before saying that. Vtubers are just twitch sluts with 2D avatars. Every other board hates you too.

>>30986218
>Vtubers are just twitch sluts with 2D avatars. Every other board hates you too.
I too can make baseless claims

>>30985717
I feel like this post is supposed to be an anon making a defense, but all I see when I look at it is a steel piped barrel smoking, the smell of gunpowder, and a hole in anons foot.

>>30986150
Ugh..

>>30986150
Huh, so it happened in October too? I remember seeing a ton of these posts in August or September too.

>>30986252
>I too can make baseless claims
Maybe start lurking the other boards for a while, dummy. You know it's true.

>>30981529
>That would be like saying Genshin Impact or gacha is otaku culture.
There are at least three gacha threads on /jp/, Kancolle, DMM, and random gatcha games, and a few Touhou related ones at times. Genshin Impact is able to be discussed in the random one and /jp/ had a minecraft server for some time on top of playing AoE, GTA, DoTA, Doom, and Mount&Blade Touhou mods. There was a time when you could talk about Dwarf Fortress and Korean MMORPGs on /jp/. Genshin probably would have had its own thread if it were out in those times.

>>30981264
>This is a lie. This only happen when there's a new debut
They made a sticky for some collaboration event where a bunch of them were playing some game together.

>>30986342
I went back and checked and, yep, seems like I was right at a glance. There's definitely more, not counting the countless threads about /jp/ that they invaded, but yeah. Not "sticking to their own generals" in the slightest.
Very quick and very shitty edit going no further than three pages back.

I love seeing them get caught in their own lies, but its sad to see how they forget about it a week later when they inevitably find another thread that shittalks them.

Remember the Suigintou GET and all the replies it got? Reading that crap is genuinely depressing.

>>30986720
They literally tried to convince us into watching their garbage a few threads ago.

>>30986818
That's why we need to tell more people to lurk more

>>30986818
Wait, what? When did this happen? Do I even want to know with that leadup?

>>30986949
>>/jp/thread/S28978923#p30000000

>>30986818
We live in dark times

oh my god, there's more people calling gin a touhou than I can remember

>>30986976
Huh. I actually got a pit in my stomach reading that. Don't like that, not one bit.

>>30984546
So are you going to refute the proof otherwise in this thread, or are you just going to run like a coward instead of bumping this thread to bump limit like your kind usually does?

>>30987220
want more?
>>/jp/thread/S24445951#p24447117

>>30988624
>This is moot's revenge for hijacking.
I'm quoting >>24447210

>>30951526
Rich coming from a 2hufag, at least they idolize semi real women not a fucking drawing

>>30989436

>>30989436
Kill yourself out of /jp/

>>30989436
The literal, current fucking status of /jp/

>>30989470
>>30989554
>>30989603
struck a nerve huh ?

>>30961246
>Anki grinder pretends to be fluent in Japanese
"EOP" is not a /jp/ term to being with, crossboarder.

>>30989603
just report and move on

>>30989436

>>30986389
go easy on him, it's his first year on 4chan.

>>30989813
heh.

>>30987083
...

>>30989436
and the worst post of the year award goes to...

>>30989436

>>30989436
>idolize semi real women
That is the most pathetic thing I have read all year.

you all are in the wrong

>>30989979
what are you telling me you are not jealous for this anon's special relationship with his vtuber persona?

>>30986218
>Every other board hates you too.
nope

>>30989436
based

>>30991939
Don't lie to yourself.