/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I can't believe Tsubaki gained weight and moved from lightweight to welterweight.

>>30936517
Fuck the other characters.

>>30941258
Tits too big.

>>30936517
Would be even better as a trap otouto.

>>30741830

She does look like she can be in the 90-100kg range.

She is still fat.

With Christmas coming up, can anyone give me some VNs that have special messages when you play them on Christmas?

>>30942787
Saga Planet's stuff
https://vndb.org/v22789

>>30942787
Interesting idea

>>30942787
Seiya-saga has every single VN with it listed.

>>30942787
Just read the bible

Character that will have at least 10 h-scenes in her game.

which release of baldr force should i play

>>30949380
EXE on PC

>>30942787
Ijikura Mama Christmass Special.
Three mothers and sons engaging in a merry full orgy.

>the Homura route in kimi ga nozomu eien is secretly a yandere route
Okay, I'm down with this sudden change of pace. I was just happy fapping to her big milkers earlier.

>>30941231
> actually stretching 720p up to 1080 and fap to blurry mess
holy shit brother, why would you do something like this to yourself?
>>30942787
https://vndb.org/v24208

>>30958531
I play on a 4k monitor, doesn't look blurry to me.
720p is too small, especially with those popup tips.
1080p or fullscreen is good.
Anyway disabling dpi scaling and stretching the window to 1080p gave me a less blurry result which is what I did.

>>30958808
>I play on a 4k monitor, doesn't look blurry to me.
> 720p is too small, especially with those popup tips.
okay, fair then

>>30945576
While I want to doubt that, I also am reminded that Fia gets stronger with the more girls Avaro bangs and considering she's the spirit of the castle...

>>30959144
>I want to doubt that
Fag

Do you think VN's would even benefit in a resolution larger than 1080p?

>>30959466
Not really, but 1080p vns usually have bigger cgs than 1080p for panning. When they're zoomed all the way out they should be displayed in their native resolution, but most don't do this.

https://www.tgsmart.jp/article.aspx?a=28966
Parfait remake and new Favorite announcements.

>>30959466
if you have a larger monitor then sure
vns always look best at their native resolution

>>30959649
jesus man why

>>30960502
Always wanted to read Parfait but the art...has not aged well. This is perfect. First Clarias and now this, GIGA is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>30960869
Really? Looks like it can pass as current era anime.

>>30945576
Yes, that would be cool.

>>30960869
The art is fine, nigger.

>>30960502
>シナリオ：丸戸 史明 with 企画屋

Thank fucking God.

Why can't Favorite go bankrupt already like minori and other garbage devs did?

>>30960869
The original looks great. Remake looks like generic trash like every remake.

>>30962291
The original is ugly as shit and has some of the worst looking text I've seen.

>>30962291
>The original looks great. Remake looks like generic trash like every remake.
oh lol, i love retards like you
bet you jerk off to original yuno as well, faggot

>original
SOUL
>remake
soulless

>>30962391
Yes

>>30962505
Whenever people post this, I just look at random PC-98 dithering art and get a good chuckle or two.

>>30962391
It's ok to admit you're tasteless.

>>30962649
>>30962704
> mfw soultard

>>30962391
Original YU-NO has kami art you tard. The H-scenes are sadly too short to fap to, but they serve their purpose and also have good writing.

>>30960502
Looks like soulless TRASH.

>>30962291
>Remake looks like generic trash like every remake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEwR57zBGts
Koitate remake looked great. Senomoto Hisashi still has soul in him.

>>30959168
Hey, I am not saying that I dont want it to happen, I just dont think 10 scenes is likely

>>30960502
Nope, doesn't look good.
Doesn't help they look extremely deaged, Asuka proabbly looks like 12 now.

>>30964850
>deaged
That's a good thing, one thing I haye about all this classic games is how old the girls look.

幻想牢獄のカレイドスコープ was alright. The story is kind of stupid but at least it's short and doesn't overstay its welcome.

>>30963940
The OP certainly looks good. But is the whole game an improvement over the original?

>>30964771
It could reach that number including some oyakodon with Fia.
Or the eventual appends.

>>30964893
Kill yourself, lolifag

>>30965153
You don't have to be a lolifag to enjoy teenagers looking like teenagers.

>>30965201
Highschool? They are uni students.

>>30965201
Now they look like JCs

>>30960869
Like I'm not someone who's gonna fanboy about old art all the time, but like seriously? Look at that fucking blonde girl and then look at this.

It's quite a big yikes.

>>30961193
Just to make sure. You know that this means, that Maruta has nothing to do with it? The scenario credits are obviously there, because its his text they rework. But THEY will rework it.

>>30962391
Tried not being trans?

>>30964947
They increased the length of the routes for two heroines and supposedly increased the script quality.

>>30965447
Did they rework the text for the Koitate remake? How was it?

>>30965239
A lot of university students could still pass as JK's unless they're white.

>>30965447
Surely they wouldn't do us dirty like that.

>>30965402
I don't see that big of a difference. Late 00's art isn't as stylistically radical now than it did two decades back.

>>30965588
I didn't compare it side to side but there's nothing to worry about since the original writer actually worked on the remake. https://youtu.be/Bbzo1Oc9a1Y?t=33

Rikako and oneesan's routes felt rushed and they can be really improved from more content. Other routes can do with just more ichaicha.
Idk parfait is good for its time and definitely had a huge influence on moege genre but it has aged like milk in some aspects. Konnyaku is better marutoge if you want to remake something for zoomies.

>>30965787
No one even thinks about parfait and konnyaku when maruto's name is mentioned. Those days are over long ago. Now he's known for WA2, saekano and maybe damekoi. Giga just wants to milk their outdated classics or something.

>>30965575
Supposedly? Have you read both?

>>30965980
Simply I'm not going to remember the text from a game I read years ago.

>>30965919
That's why I also think that Maruto won't even have anything to do with it. Doubly so, because we all know how he doesn't like the industry. Saekano may as well be called "why the eroge industry SUCKS". And I definitely understand him. For an actual writer, the industry is completely poisonous.

>>30965609
Fucking why? University girls are pretty rare in moege and you want the couple of uni heroines we get to also look like normal JKs?

I wouldn't mind seeing a G-Senjou no Maou remake...

>>30966132
Why? The game's perfectly fine as is.

>>30966115
*a couple

>>30966132
Why? The game couldn't be salvaged even with a remake.

>>30966083
I wonder what he'll do next. Maybe write another LN and work on its anime adaptation like he did with saekano.

>>30966115
It's just as bad to make them look like OL's.

>>30966269
They don't look like OLs? Everyone looks their age in parfait. Only ema looks like an OL in terms of heroines.

does anyone know why the zero infinity patch for some reason breaks the game? after applying it, i can't open the game anymore.

>>30966063
I was just wondering how they compared in terms of general impressions, not a line by line comparison.

>>30959649
>p*rfait
It's that kusoge where you get cucked by your brother lmao

>>30966359
In OG Parfait's case, their faces are just small.

>>30966665
The remake is better but it's not like some huge step above the original. There's also a PSP version of the original that still has it's place since it has two new characters and Kugimiya voicing the MC(I haven't read this version.) It's also AXL so don't go in with big expectations.

Is TsukiKana worth reading? I'm about 2 hours in and I'm up to the part where MC catches Touka outside the hotel and puts bandages on her feet.

I'm not liking it too much so far. Everything feels kind of... fake. It's like they're going for an anime movie type of story (Touka even fits the typical main girl's personality type and seems to like the MC for no reason). The MC's friends are also generic and uninteresting so far.

Should I cut my losses and go on to another VN? Life's too short to be reading low quality stuff.

>>30966083
>For an actual writer, the industry is completely poisonous.

Could you elaborate on this? I haven't read/seen Saekano yet.

>>30967554
It's a toneworks trash.

>>30967554
If you already hate it 2 hours in you're not going to be able to stand the 50+ hours they have for you next.

>>30967615
>>30967753
Alright, fuck. I actually bought it for 9k yen last year. Wish I hadn't unsealed the box like a retard before trying the pirated version.

>>30967818
I generally only buy games from writers/brands I already know I like for this reason, if its something new I always pirate/play the trial first

>>30967818
>he fucking bought it
Maybe try it more. Maybe you'll develop Stockholm syndrome. Maybe you'll like the slut routes.

>>30966665
I doubt that guy has actually read either version or at most only the remake because "old bad." Looks like that one retard is responsible for many of the recent posts shitting up the place.

>>30967818
Why the fuck would you buy a full price game new when you don't even know if you'll like it? And a physical edition at that. With anything digital, always pirate first to see what it's like. Then buy if it's good and at the right price. Stuff like brand loyalty is bullshit, don't fall for that.

>>30967925
>Maybe you'll like the slut routes
>route(s)
Are they actually? It would be hot if Touka was actually enkou but the game's giving me vanilla vibes.

I appreciate tsukikana for having used goods/turboslut side heroines but It's goddamn boring lol

>>30968062
The hags are non-virgins.

>>30968062
There's a massive slut in it who doesn't sleep with the same man twice

>>30968024
Wow, rude.

>>30968157
>>30968266
Eh, I'll probably drop it. I don't think it's worth struggling through hours of irrelevant content just for them.

>>30968266
what a femchad

>>30968024
Old IS bad.

If Tsukikana is so bad why is it so loved on /vg/?

>>30969211
They have Stockholm Syndrome for anything tone works has put out so far.

>>30969211
Lol what? They made the meme snoreworks for a reason

>>30969211
If you're a normal, well-adjusted person who knows Japanese, why are you caring about /vg/?

Tell me which eroge maker is beloved on /jp/

>>30969211
Who gives a fuck what eops think?

>>30967925
>slut routes
Another great post on 4chan about slut. When you are a trash, everything is good to insult women under the pretext of having a ""reasonable"" and ""logical"" discussion. You even get a sudden "interest" in toneworks if that allow you to do that. Sasuga anonymous the /jp/ misogynist. Women are not happy to be called slut, they embrace the insult as a badge of honor to scorn trashes like you. Who am I kidding, you already know that.
inb4 poster's compadre coming here to accuse me of white knighting.

>>30969526
Tanuki Soft.

>>30969211
/vn/ literally accuses JOPs for overrating toneworks cause they got to read hoshiori and Ginharu. They only care about sluts in tsukikana.

>>30969570
You're not a woman. People who act like you are only do so out of fear of social repercussions of doing otherwise.

>>30969526
dead ones.

>>30969526
Madosoft

>>30969570
I meant it in a good way tho...Kirari is a literal slut. Even women would call her a slut.
I like slut heroines and they add some flavor to otherwise bland writing in tsukikana.

>>30969526
Giga and Eushully

>>30969526
Smee and asa project

/vn/ is making fun of us again

>>30970787
Only faggots care about /vn/.

>>30949931
from what i read the all ages edition has the mc voiced. plus the h scenes don't look that good. is the all ages censored?

>>30969884
>Eushully
That's a goddamn lie.

>>30969526
Galette

>>30960502
probably gonna read this version then, i actually don't dislike the old art but i do lmao at the contrarian puritans who hate everything new

>>30972651
I like a lot of new art, this one just looks worse.

>>30965548
is this you, bro?

I cried to moege again today.

Anyone have a guide for Kara no Shoujo? The sagaoz one is a 100% walkthrough that tries to make you get every single ending which seems tedious (and from what I've heard unneeded).

>>30972651
i like new art and hate the retards who always cry about no good games having come out for the "current year". that said, i think the remake art for the one heroine i recognize looks bad, like 99% of remakes. if this art was used for kazoku keikaku it might have been one of the few better looking remakes

>>30973331
Nah, I'm the guy that remembers you exist on my way to the store and grins for a second or two.

Simply knowing you are makes me feel better about being me.

>>30975958
pic seems to be pretty accurate depiction of you, why so mad?

>>30968024
Err, did I say something wrong? People sure are paranoid here these days.

>>30969570
Why get so worked up over fictional women?

>>30969526
rune

>>30959649
So, this means no Sakura, Moyu fandisc...

>>30978898
They're all I have

>>30969570
In the end, nobody should care as long as they aren't cheating or hurting anyone. Rabid purityfags are usually the biggest hypocrites anyways because they are either insecure they can't get easy sex thus take it out on sluts, or they jerk off to degenerate shit all day yet still think they deserve a pure girl.

>>30983155
Die slutfag.

What are some good chuunige battle music tracks?

>>30984870
Anything Fortissimo.

>>30978898
So if you play a moege and she suddenly reveal that she has fucked behind your back in her route, would you have no issues?

>>30984969
sounds hot

>>30984870
Literally anything from Dies irae, it's filled with absolute 10/10 bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNQysS54dI&list=PLGU_8wFooRx_YLjSdFwJm5Lzo77_YPZyM&index=7

https://milkfactory.jp/comingsoon/3rd/02/

More tittyge fuck yeah.
Seems like another ero mahou since looking at the silhouette you can see elf ears on the brown girl.
Sadly we are likely looking at late 2021 release (Unless they have spend this entire year working on it).

>>30984969
I would stop playing because it no longer appeals to me.

>>30985010
Do you not know how eroge announcements work? If it's getting announced now it'll be out on March or April.

>>30984969
I'd probably get a laugh out of it and then look here and Twitter for people's reactions and get a laugh out of that too. Highly unlikely of me finding out for myself first rather than from other people though unfortunately.

>>30984969
my pp got hard
any examples?

>>30984969
Would be awesome and I would go and immediately read all other works by the author for having balls instead of being a conforming beta

>>30984969
Would it be entirely offscreen or would we get some h-scenes out of it?

>>30984969
As far as I'm aware, moege is not something that's officially sold, with a clear cut description ruling out things.
You call something a moege based on its contents. Given what we consider moege, a work would most likely just not be much of a moege if girls sleep around. There is absolutely nothing wrong about that either.

--


Btw, for the one guy asking why Maruto and some others left the industry. This. Exactly this. The "fans" limit creativity and want only "safe" works. Companies offer that. But in the end, anyone who actually wants to write a story, will have a hard time and not get much of anything out of it. It's not even like Tone Works did anything massive. None of the "frontline" girls on the covers has anything strange. Just what's essentially a side character. Trying something a little different. And see all that whining? Pathetic? Yeah. Now imagine someone writing a story like plenty of charage did in the past. Riot. Like Re:Birth colony, where one of the major heroines has someone she's engaged to. And she doesn't even hate him. Would probably be too much today.


It's nice to see how this recently recovers a little, even though people complain about "no ero" a lot. If ero brought the industry down to its knees when it comes to trying something more than just a nukige or moege, it's maybe a good idea to try something without it. The ero works don't disappear, though the trend is probably continuing. More ero, less everything else.

>>30985118
Pandemic changes everything which is why we didn't get a game this year.

>>30985051
>>30985151
>>30985164
>>30985176
>>30985210
>>30985305
Say her route plays normally but then drama hits and she reveals the reason for it is because she feels guilty for sleeping behind protag's back.
I'm not saying that's okay to be an slut but saying "they arent real" is kind of dumb given where we are.

>>30985333
Yes but that just means they delay the announcement.
There are two winter themed games announced this month and last that are releasing on March, they were probably supposed to release a bit earlier to fit with the season better.

>>30985459
Ah okay.
Then let's hope for an steady and early release.

>>30985386
i asked for title examples, faggot
>>30985459
no one cares about reading vn in fitting season, faggot, except few spergs on 4chan

>>30984795
Based.

>>30985386
So then label her as a whore and then move on to the next game if it's not your thing. You've only known her for mere hours from reading the game and it's not like real life where you spend weeks/months/years building up trust feelings for the person.

>>30986476
based

>>30984894
This. The latest game Kadenz Fermata has some glorious battle tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjpc-Pas92c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw2iVVJ2bCs

>>30969526
Tanuki/Kaeru, Galette/TinklePos, August, Yuzusoft, Saga Planets, Circus, Hulotte, Neko Neko Soft, Madosoft.

>>30969570
https://vndb.org/t15098.10
>copypastaing vndb retards
Why do you keep doing this?

>>30986077
Dude nails the uber creeper voice.

>>30986077
What is going to happen to her?

>>30984969
If she fucked behind my back in her route or in general then it's not a moege you retard.

>>30987547
Forced to shave all of her hair for bringing shame to the production firm.

>>30987691
She looks quite young. Is there even so much to shave?

>>30987764
I don't know, does she have a full head of hair in the fucking image you big dumbo?

>>30986476
jesus

>>30986077
Where's that from?

>>30987935
Google image search.

>>30987547
It's complicated but she's about to get 枕営業'd by her celebrity stepmother in order to land a acting role for her stepbrother. Her stepmother has a grudge against her because she is the product of her husband cheating on her with another woman. It's a pretty critical moment since her stepmother has put on the facade of loving her like her own child this whole time.
>>30987935
るぺかり

>>30988238
Oh and I forgot to mention MC saves her before she gets raped so there is nothing to worry about. However afterwards MC ends up confining her in his dead sister's room for reasons I won't bother to explain because it has something to do with Kamimaho and you should really read that.

>>30988628
>MC saves her before she gets raped
Okay, canceling the download.

>>30988628
Sounds like Mirai Nikki

>>30988628
>spoiler
Wait does the MC save her from being raped only to rape her himself?

>>30988238
>>30988628
Jesus, extreme Lucle-ing inbound.

>>30989795
He saves her because he's a good guy. He also has a complex about his dead imouto whom he has mixed feelings about and he sees Nanana as the ideal imouto unlike his dead imouto, so there's that for an ulterior motive. It's also for her sake as well since she has nowhere to go anymore after her stepmom shows her true face. Nanana's half-brother doesn't care for her either and sees her as dirty, so in the end it was a mutual thing. It isn't shown what happens in between them agreeing to play as siblings and until she is discovered in his house in that state, but I imagine they played as brother and sister for a while. As for why she ends up with dead fish eyes, I have an idea but once again I won't bother to get into it since it has something to do with Kamimaho.

>>30971960
Adding to this, does anyone have a link tothe standard edition of BALDR FORCE? Judging from pic related, it definitely seems to be the best release.

>>30985305
maybe they could actually try instead of making the same garbage over and over
i sure as hell dont see this game reviewbombed or something for having 1 slut and 1 girl that fucks someone else in her "route"
or nukitashi
tsukikana also has the highest rating of all their games on egs

>>30985305
What whining? The game sold fine.

>>30985305
The people who actually want to write a story shouldn't be making eroge, it's low brow entertainment for people that just want quick safe satisfaction, you don't include porn in a serious story, and if doesn't have porn it's not an eroge anymore, "no ero" wouldn't be "trying something different" in the industry, it would just be a work for a different industry.

>>30993068
True, game of thrones is not a serious story because it has porn in it.

>>30993108
Sex scenes are not the same as porn, the moment you have multiple minute long h-scenes, with long porn-like dialog, moans and detailed images showing the entire act it becomes something that's just there for sexual satisfaction, not to tell a story.

>>30993160
The genitals are censored so it's not porn.

>>30993222
The fact that the genitals are censored means it's sexual and porn, there's plenty of uncensored shota dick in anime.

>>30993068
i dont think playing something of 20-30 hours is "quick safe satisfaction"
and that you only play nukige or moege that are pumped full of sex scenes doesnt mean everyone else does the same

>>30993258
Maybe in the 90s

>>30993274
It doesn't have to pumped full of it, their existence is enough.
What purpose do the h-scenes in somethin like Kara no Shoujo serve? Even if the fact that the characters have sex is important, what use is there in showing in detail, over multiple CGs, the entire act? It's just there so people masturbate to it, and the moment you feel like including that you can't demand people to take it seriously as a story anymore.

>>30993440
ok then all the books, manga and anime also shouldnt have their stories taken seriously, since they are obviously just for people to jack off, since some of them contain some sex scenes with the whole act described
i personally dont like reading 10-20 mins of a single sex scene or more when i play something, but this is just stupid hyperbole

>>30993602
If they're as graphic and detailed and obviously made for sexual arousal as eroge h-scenes then sure, they'd be porn at that point.
Personally I've never seen a tv anime that had 10-20 mins long sex scenes with graphic penetration, or a menu to directly go to those scenes to make it easy to masturbate, or voice actresses that had to use an alias because what they're doing is porn and not normal work.

>>30993108
I know very, very little about game of thrones, but I was under the impression that it's not a serious story and just trashy high fantasy.

>>30993440
I take a well written plotge with some H more seriously than whatever hackjob trendy thing is praised by "critics" as a good story.

I mean, relatively speaking bigger part of GoT season 1 is taken by sex scenes compared to many VNs

>>30996024
It was because, back then, doing a "fantasy series" was seen as TV suicide and the creators had spent years trying and failing to get it picked up, so they threw in a fuckton of completely unnecessary sex scenes that served no purpose other than titillation to try and attract an audience. Once the show was established and had an audience, the porn went massively down and all of the main actresses stopped doing it completely because they felt they were too good for it now.

So, y'know, exactly what happened to the eroge industry in miniature.

I don't think sex scenes are any issue. Useless Padding and snail tier pacing in the first half is the main problem with this medium.

>>31006388
> plebs can't skim
oh god lol

If early Russian literature was a punk rock band, then Musicus! would be their cover band. The visual novel is pretty important to the history of VNs since it’s the swan song of Overdrive, but it also is hopeful about the endeavors of art in the music industry and by extension the VN industry.

You follow Kei who’s decided to start his own rock band after a life-changing experience with his mentor, but the premise isn’t that simple. It’s not just about an up-and-coming rock band trying to make ends meet; it’s about the pain and disillusionment of being an artist.

Most of the scenes are down-to-earth as hell. Unlike Kira Kira and other titles of its kind, Musicus! doesn’t shy away from the artists’ confusion whilst performing for a live performance. What does it feel to be under that spotlight when crowds of adoring fans cheer for you? Is any of this real? What does success in the artistic world actually mean?

These questions are later occluded by deeper questions on the meaning of life and death. A heroine gets drunk after a performance and starts talking about how she dreams about death and whether an afterlife exists. Characters struggle under the weight of loss and poverty. Such heavy themes never go away; they’re always lurking in the background.

And yet, you read about how these characters are still trying. It’s trying to answer all of these questions and I don’t know if the game truly succeeded in that front, but it’s an important endeavor.

The way it does it is really interesting: the game structures itself after the many branching paths of life. Each route is a decision Kei makes and he meets entirely different casts of characters who will never appear in other routes. If you’re expecting, for example, the hikikomori girl since she has a character portrait and appears in the cover to appear after the first route, you’re gonna be disappointed. The visual novel takes a lot of attention to depict characters who barely appear once or twice in the grand scale of things because, much like life, the people we meet don’t always stick around. They have their own lives and not everything in life is like a visual novel where a grand route connects all the strings. Characters come and go much like old friends and classmates in schools. Maybe, we’ll meet them again or in Facebook or other cursed sites like that, but that connection will always remain spurious.

And that’s what makes this visual novel so powerful. It captures the rhythm of life, even if it is bleak at times. By the end of Kei’s journey, you wonder if life is actually worth living and the game reminds you there is indeed a light at the end of the tunnel. That cliche may seem silly, but I think the visual novel fully earned it by asking us to believe in ourselves and passions.

I hope the title gets a good translation because I can imagine it would be a hit for many artists wondering if their efforts ae all worth it. A little desire of mine is to continue its legacy through the visual novel collective as well.

>>30985305
>作家になりたい人へ、アドバイスをお願いします。

そういう質問をされたとき、以前はまず生活基盤を整えて、生活が苦しくなくなったら書けるよと言っていたんですが。もうちょっと真面目に話すと、いろいろなものに触れているときには、自分ならどうパクるかを、常に考えてみるといいと思います。パクるというのをはき違えてそのままやらかしてしまう方もいますけど、パクるっていうのは要するに、原典に自分がどういう色をつけて、どういう反応を引き出そうかとか。そういうことを考えるようにしておくと、いざ自分でなにかを作ろうと思ったときに、自分の引き出しとして使えるようになります。よく言われることですけど、もう今の世の中「オリジナル」なんてものはないですから。だったらそこにあるものを自分だったらどう表現するかっていうことを常にタグづけしてアイデアとしてしまっておくのがいいのかなと思うんです。そのうえで大事になってくるのは、まず差恥心を持ちましょうと。ホントにそのままパクったら恥ずかしいよね、じゃあ恥ずかしくないようにするにはどうアレンジしたらいいのか、そういうところを考えましょうよと。次に、常に人に受けたいと思ってください、ということですね。よく書いた作品は誰かに読んでもらってくださいと言われますが、それと回じことです。自分にとって楽しいことが、地人にとても楽しいことかはわかりませんから。たまにそれが一致している天才もいますけど、それだけじゃ運任せですからね。もうちょっと運の要素を下げるためには、どんなところでも人に受けたいと思うような、ある意味芸人根性みたいなものを持ってくださいということです。僕は社会人を経てからこの業界に入ってきましたが、大学時代から社会人初期の頃まで、ゲームのシナリオやライトノベルを書くセンスはまったくなかったと思います。 そういうセンスが磨かれたのは、ネットとかでのファン活動でみんなとやり取りしていくなかで、ネタ的な応酬を意識してやるようになって、それに相手もノってくれて、おもしろいコミュニティが作れたっていう経験があって、その結果いろいろな作品が世に出ているので。そうなると、センスのいい友だちを持つことも大事だと思います。自分より賢い人とかセンスのある人と友だちになって、その人たちより上になりたいと思う、人間関係でも向上心があってほしいですね。

>ネタの応酬となると、ときには批判されることもあると思いますけど。

そうですね。そこを考えると、あまりめんどくさくない友だちがいいですね（笑）。大人で、頭がよくて、センスのいい友だちがいれば。言葉のセンスの鋭い人たちが周りにいたおかげで、今の自分があると思っていますから。そういう人たちには、今でもかなわないと思ちゃいますね

>世の中、なんでも否定から入る人たちもいますね。

そんなのとは友反だちになっちゃダメです（笑）。文章のテクニックなんてのは、あとから慣れていけばいいんですよ。明らかに文法がおかしいだろって思っても、おもしろい作品は売れてますからね。

>最近は「小説家になろう」や「カクヨム」とかがあって、小説を書いて発表することは以前よりハードルが下がっていますよね。

そういうところで作品を書いて人気がある人っていうのは、先ほど言っていたところの、自分がおもしろいことと他人のおもしろいことが一致している、天才的な人たちのような気がします。僕のアプローチとは全然違い、好きなことを好きなだけ書いて人気を得ている。そういう人たちに僕はきっと勝てないだろうなと思いますけど、ああぁいう人たちは、やっぱりひと握りですよ。ではなぜそんな人たちが現れたかというと、「小説家になろう」とか「カクヨム」とか、分母が大きくなる場所を作ったからです。あれだけの人たちが小説家を目指せば、そりゃあ何人かはそういう天才が出てくるよって。

>>31007873
>そういった土壌では今でも自分の書きたいものを書いている人たちがいる一方で、流行っているジャンルを見定めて、そのお題で書いてみようという人たちもいるようです。

その人たちは、僕の考えかたに近いと思います。天才には勝てるわけないよなって、ある程度わかっているんじゃないかな。でもそうやって、自分を知ることも重要だとは思います。

Is it pasta day or what...

>>31007873
>いろな作品が世に出ているので。そうなると、センスのいい友だちを持つことも大事だと思います。自分より賢い人とかセンスのある人と友だちになって、その人たちより上になりたいと思う、人間関係でも向上心があってほしいですね。
>大人で、頭がよくて、センスのいい友だちがいれば。言葉のセンスの鋭い人たちが周りにいたおかげで、今の自分があると思っていますから。
Tfw no センスのいい友達

If a story doesn't have explicit sex scenes in it then it's not worth my time.

There's really no need for drawn-out, explicit, detailed account of how characters have sex. Just show them moaning for 10 seconds now and then, and mention them leading a sizzling sex life here and there. Don't waste precious CG art on fucking porn. Use them more for sfw events.

>>31008848
>>31008943
The duality of anon.

>>31008848

>>31009079
I call that the nukigetard and the all-agestard. They both suck the same. MoegeCHADs don't care about the amount of porn as long as there is some with the girl they love.

>>31008848
t.coomer

>>31009826
Moege fags actually only care about their waifus being pure, and literally NOTHING else, as long as there is enough ero. There's no recovery for those that fall into that hellhole, as something as simple as quality is no longer of any concern.

I'm kinda pissed, this is kantoku's art, I really like it, he's best known for his art style on hentai ouji.
However his artwork for Kami-sama no You na Kimi his shit.
Sure the characters look like his but it lacks soul and isn'ta s great as the rest of his work, even in the other VNs he's worked on his art was great, but not for this

>>30993440
You can have both sex and a good story. They don't exclude each other. KnS is a good example. Your prude and hypocrite mentality is tiresome and of ill balanced minds. Thankfully, JP media gives the finger to people like you, so we can continue to enjoy eroge.

>>31017716
I'm not saying sex is bad or that eroge stories are can't be good, my point is against >>30985305, blaming the fans for limiting creativity, when the fault lies in the creators for choosing to make an eroge, I'm just acknowledging that the inclusion of h-scenes that are just for masturbation makes the product in part pornography.
When they're choosing to make porn they don't get the look down on that porn for the sake of making a "story", if the costumers are complaining about a lack of ero then those complaints are valid, if the creators can't take that and would blame the costumer for wanting "safe" works then they should just fuck off a make all ages games.

>>31016984
>but it lacks soul
kys

Maeda Jun Deleted his twitter account because everyone is saying his new show is bad lmao

>>31023381
Unfortunate :(

>>31023381
He should go back to writing all-agesge.

>>31023983
He said VNs are dying and mobage are the future
He has already written a gacha game that is stuck in dev hell

>>31023381
He's such a pit of despair these days. His new anime sucked so hard.

>>31025208
It's just objectively badly written.

>>31023381
The show is really awful, didn't even manage to finish it. Either way, I guarantee that he'll be a happier individual without some social media garbage surrounding him.

>>30985305
>Btw, for the one guy asking why Maruto and some others left the industry

How does this make sense when Maruto's latest work is one of the most well praised VN's ever made? He's the guy that proved you can write a good character drama within the 'limitations' that an eroge bring.

>>31028516
Not him I wouldn't call WA2 "good character drama". It's ridiculous and annoying, and it's self-aware of its soap opera stupidity. It's really some high IQ shit how maruto managed to make this piece of shit concept interesting to read and how he managed to make the pointless suffering of the characters understandable. Coda is peak comedy. Reading WA2 is such a complex experience. It's annoying, funny and depressing at the same fucking time.
Leaf asked him to write epik love triangle dramafest and he exactly did that.

>>31032503
I hope wa2 en tl going to be finished soon, rly wanna read it

>>31032673
Wonder if it'll ever get a good translation. But WA2 is one hell of an experience. It takes your average nice guy sincere yet extremely horny MC and flips him upside down, those very same qualities lead him to more suffering, those very same qualities paradoxically make him insincere and trash.

>>31032673
This is EOP-free zone. EOPs leave.

>>31032503
>It's really some high IQ shit how maruto managed to make this piece of shit concept interesting to read
A capable writer can make the most shit concept good

>>31034021
This is untled vn thread and wa2 isn't fully tled yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9TeN_vO1QQ

http://products.web-giga.com/parfait-remake/

>>31034254
EOPs can do it in >>30982438
Go.

>>31035149
Absolutely horrendous

>>31034158
Yeah. I can imagine WA2 in the hands of a less capable writer to be insufferable mess. What Maruto wrote is also insufferable but it is actually good.

>>31035149
They all look too young.

>>31035149
This is fine. You fags are overreacting.

>>31035149
I can't believe this is the original artist too.

>>31035149
Nekopara?

>>31016984
I agree. Something about Kamikimi looked different = worse than his previous art for eroge. The HCGs in particular seemed off / lacking. I think he peaked with https://vndb.org/v15393.. I hope his next work will be back to form.

>>31023381
No one ever deletes their twitter. It's just deactivated for a couple days/weeks. Most likely this was advised to prevent some nutjobs from gathering to repeat the KyoAni BBQ.

>>31035149
Wow this looks even worse than I thought. Extreme case of sameface, awful coloring, meh anatomy/tits, also look too young. This remake is just an excuse to make a shitty 12 episode anime.

>>31023381
Is his new show that bad?

Show me your kamimoege.

>>31043433

>>31035149
Looks more generic than the original somehow.

>>31043433
maple colors 2

>>31043433
Casablanca no Tsubomi

>>31043995
https://s2.vndb.org/sf/12/6312.jpg
Nice mosaics.

The third game looks disgusting with https://s2.vndb.org/sf/71/89671.jpg
At least it shows how the honkers JAV was made: https://s2.vndb.org/sf/66/89666.jpg

>>31035149
Better than the original, nostalgiafags cant cope harder kek

>>31045513
Weak b8 m8, you're trying too hard.

>>31043433
I've read more than two hundred eroge and only one moege. Cafe Stella, if you can consider that a moege.

>>31035149
Soulless

I downloaded 同級生２ DMM edition from a torrent but I get this weird message when I save.

Also the save doesn't actually work.
Does anyone know how I'm supposed to avoid this?

>>31041835
The comedy of the first episodes is the only decent thing about it. Everything else is awful.

>>31049599
Seems pretty clear what the error message means. You can use procmon to find the exact cause, but it's probably permissions like trying to write to the install directory as a normal user.

http://www.odnir.com/cgi/src/nup81628.jpg
http://www.odnir.com/cgi/src/nup81629.jpg
http://www.odnir.com/cgi/src/nup81630.jpg
http://www.odnir.com/cgi/src/nup81631.jpg
Fuck, where are the lolis?

>>31056725
>http://www.odnir.com/cgi/src/nup81629.jpg
I love pillow talk.

>>31050618
The comedy is also pretty bad except for the that mahjong episode

>>31056725
Obviously green and purple are supposed to be the lolis, they just fail at looking like ones.

The Favorite colorist really loves giving white haired girls amber or red eyes. In general the majority of their heroines have those eye colors for some reason. And they usually also love mismatching eye and hair colors, this game's okay in that regard. It's one of the reasons I can't stand their games, the other is them being snoozefests. This one looks like trash as well despite not having Shida for once.

>>31056725
Urushibara scenario?

What the fuck do you mean that the MC of Koirowa is a boku bitch? How am I, an ore chad, supposed to self-insert?

>>31059102
He's basically a sociopath, so you should be fine.

You ever play what looks to be a normal moege but then the second you hit new game you're faced with screams and the sound of gunshots, and you watch as the main character is cornered by an Englishman with a gun, who intends to kill him, but the main character wants to die, so he goes over his whole tragic backstory, and it's genuinely really well written with nice prose and you slowly realize this might be a kamige, but, right as the main character is about to be shot and killed, it turns out it was a finger gun the whole time, and the main character is fine, and there's a time skip to years later, and now the main character is being dressed up as a girl to get admissions to an all girls school, and it's now a completely normal moege?
WTF

>>31061815
I don't know, I found it super melodramatic.

>>31046644
Cope more contrarian

>>31056725
Now this is moe.

>>31061815
Is a cross dressing game really a "completely normal moege?"

>>31061815
I love Luna-sama.

>>31062189
>MC cross-dressing to enter an all-girl's school
Is one of the 5 plots in the pantheon of moege.

>>31062189
This is like my fourth eroge ever. Sorry if I missed a term.

>>31061815
you just described one of my favorite games, what about it?

>>31063043
That's one hell of an opening, that's all. I'm actually really happy to hear that it's someone's favorite game. I wasn't sure how well received it actually was, so I'm happy to know I'm playing something good.

>>31063043
>>31063200

>>31063200
don't get your hopes up for mizuho and minato routes, it's trash written by side writer, unlike ursule and luna routes
just skip mizuho and minato if you don't feel like reading these two

anyone has some recommeendation for ドロドロ romance in the same vein as WA2, kiminozo or Hayakari games?
I have been craving for more recently

>>31061815
The beginning sounds terrible, but you had me with the dressing up as a girl for an all-girls' school. Which Ensemble gaymu?

>>31063200
Not everything is a moege just because it has cute girls. In fact, until a decade ago, what we know as moege was a small minority. Then it slowly grew.

I mean, with how MUCH moege there is today, I can't blame anyone expecting everything to be a moege, but especially if you look at a little older games, that doesn't work. Tsuriotsu is not a moege. If you play it, better prepare your anus. In.. multiple ways.

>>31058401
Thankfully no. It might be readable.

>>31067612
> Tsuriotsu is not a moege
ah yes, it's C H A R A G E amrite

>>31035149
looks great

>>31066818
>Which Ensemble gaymu?
You for real bro

SOUL

>>31077974
Honestly, just fixing Rea and Kasuri's routes would be enough.
Shame about the art and hopefully they don't use the all ages version of the ost.

>>31077974
Eyes too small

>>31056725
>6 heroines
excitement gone

>>31041835
It's actually horrible. The best parts were near the start when it was SOL trash and the plot was at a complete standstill

currently the main character is trying to improve the condition of a mentally retarded girl by having her play dragon quest. Except she's mentally retarded and can't beat a boss. His solution is to grind for her so it's impossible for her to be defeated. He does this inside her hospital room, sitting there the entire night playing dragon quest.
When the Nurse tells him to cut that shit out his response is "I'll turn the TV brightness down and also modern controllers aren't that loud anyway"

>>31084661
True, 4 is ideal, 5 is acceptable.

Is Kimimeza any good?

>>31085400
>tfw no retarded gf
Sounds like something I would like.

>>31085758
Yeah.

>>31085758
I dropped it as soon as I found out the MC was a slut that slept with his androids.

>>31086113
>>31086182
ok, picked up.

>>31085400
That sounds funny the way you describe it. What show and what episode?

>>31087208
Two retarded questions in one. Impressive. How many shows is Maeda Jun writing this season? What could "currently" mean in an ongoing show?

>>31088471
>How many shows is Maeda Jun writing this season?
I don't know. I don't follow him, I don't follow seasons, and I haven't watched anime for like 5 years now.
>What could "currently" mean in an ongoing show?
Depends on when it airs and is uploaded. Could be yesterday, could be right this second, could be last weeks, could be an ova that came out last month with one releasing this month but isn't thought of as current yet.

>>31088836
Go look it up on anidb you retard. I gave you a chance and you doubled down.

>>31087208

Jun Maeda bullying in full force here.

>>31089298
To be fair, we only get to talk about him every 5 years. And it gets worse each time

Pitty the Angel Beats seems dead.

I need to read lolige.

How come all chuuniges start with a city in flames?

>>31091975
Such as?

>>31092227
Silverio Vendetta, FSN, Dies Irae, Fortissimo...

>>31092262
FSN doesn't start with burning with city in flames, does it? Other than that, I've only played Dies Irae, although I would like to play Silverio when I get areound to do it.

>>31092434
If you take aside Rin's prologue, it does.

>>31092511
Rin's prologue was a pleasent surprise for me when I first read it

bump

>>31050807
I guess it doesn't have permission to write the save files since the game comes preinstalled.

I also tried running the win95 version on a windows xp vm but it was extremely glitchy.

Did anyone here manage to play 同級生２ on windows 10 normally?

>>31078123
Art looks awful, but if they actually fix Kasuri's route then I'd give it a shot. She was way too cute of a character too have such a lame route.

>>31077974
If there is a company I trust 100% with remakes, it is Giga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SakL0qmz_6A&t=3s

>>31091975
I wouldn't say they all do, but it's probably pretty common because it's cool.

I like it when companies put lewd in their PVs or OPs on Youtube.

>>31099290
most have two OP versions, one for game one for youtube

>>31098618
Some nostalgia nut will say the OG Baldr Bullet art has "soul" when it was objectively derpy looking shit.

i cant get the audio off the for elise file
im using cdex btw
it only shows a data track

>>31085474
8 or 9 heroines is best

>>31091975
It has to so you remember the colour RED.

>>31103044
No way fag. It would have to be 100h long

>>31103223
>8h common route
>9x5h heroine routes
>1h bad/joke ends
That's 54 hours of quality content. You fags don't read all routes anyway so just skip like you always do and you still get ~23 hours of game.

>>31103395
>>8h common route
extremely short of 8 heroines

>>31103395
It's more like
>4 hour common route
>4 hour heroine routes (read: 3 skipping the sex) for 5 of the girls
>2 hour side heroine routes (mostly sex, so basiclaly 1 hour each) for 4 girls
>1 hour of bad/joke ends
There, your average 30 hour VN.

>>31103395
I autistically read every route even if I don't like it.

>>31103954
Based

>>31103495
4h common is far too short and why the fuck would you have 4 side girls with shitty 1 hour nukige spam when you can have 7+ heroines with longer proper routes...
>skipping the sex
Buu buu

>>31105520
>4h common is far too short
That's the normal length though.

>>31103495
What story can you tell in a 3 hour route?

>>31107778
You are too used to VN padding.
You can perfectly tell a story in 3 hours as long as you are committed to the characters. Unless you think short stories and novels can't tell stories due to their length or something.