/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>1
Thanks moot, for making a board for Touhou and Visual novels!

>>3075629
It'll happen again in 1000 years you retard.

It's ten past six. I missed it.

>>3075636
Please bear in mind that this has already happened if you use the european standard DD/MM/YYYY calendar.

So Europeans had it last month on the 8th day.

>>3075629
Euro-fag here.
You're about a month late.

>>3075646
You too, are late.

>>3075636
No, 100.

>>3075629
You silly foreigners and your dates that start with the day first.

It goes month, day, year, you inferior beings.

If I take a screenshot at the exact second will that count as an irl GET?

>>3075643
OK, that's nice. However, bear in mind bear in mind that the master of grammar bends are breaks rules at will. Because.

>>3075656
Yes it will.

>>3075650
How fucking illogical. It goes 年/月/日.

123456789 day is cool.

I also like palindrome days. In the palindrome moment of the last palindrome day (20:02, 20.02.2002) I partied like a motherfucker.

>>3075650

I find it hilarious that America managed to hit on the single most illogical order possible.

>>3075663
Month/Day/Year is superior to whatever you could possibly think up.

>>3075666

I don't think you had a party. Enjoy your solo dancing and stale beer.

Alone.

>>3075666
For one minute? That must have been some party.

>>3075650
That's like the most retarded system ever. You read it seventh of august 2009, no? Why would you not use that order. Also from smallest to biggest (or from biggest to smallest) are the only logical orders.

>>3075674
No, I think of it as August 7th. If someone asked me what day it was, I'd say "Friday, August 7th."

>>3075668
And exactly how is it superior? What are the benefits?
I can see a benefit in the numerical value as in the small numbers up front the two digit ones in the middle etc... but thats hardly beneficial.

>>3075650
>It goes month, day, year, you inferior beings.

Are you trolling?

How can this system be superior? Why would you put the day between the month and the year? That just doesn't make sense.

Day changes faster than a month, so it should be first.

Actually, year/month/day/time would be the best way to do it. It's easier to organize things like that.

>>3075674
Actually, it's quicker to say August seventh, which many people do.

Year/Month/Day > Day/Month/Year >> Month/Day/Year

I truly wish we would stop using outdated systems and move to something better like stardates from Star Trek or something...

>>3075650

gregorian calendar is from europe and all you western silly fags who don't otl europeans, copy'ing and destroying everything with value are a fucking failure

We should start using the decimal system for date and time like everything else.

>>3075684
I never ever use the month names I always say "It's the 7.8.2009"

>>3075694
Pro-tip: Europe is considered "the West", too.

You foreign fags take this shit way too seriously.

>>3075701
You're joking, right?

>>3075705
On the contrary you are the foreign fag. Because we Europeans are your source.

So how about that silly imperial measurement system? Will Americans ever switch to metric?

>>3075709
Why switch to something inferior?

>>3075708
But America is the primary country of the world, making all of you the foreign fags.

>>3075709
What's the matter? Memorizing units of measurement that aren't equal too hard for you? Fag.

We should just count seconds from the last time we fought Shinku.

God, I hate Americans.

>12:34:56 7/8/09

I hope the world ends.

Please lord baby Jesus let the world explode. Amen.

>>3075714
What's the point in that though?

>>3075713

At least one of the space shuttles blew up because it was coded in imperial instead of metric, and the units were some retarded horseshit like swallow's flights to a hogshead instead of the SI units that the entire scientific community uses anyway.

>>3075716
>God, I hate Americans.

God, I hate the human race.

>But America is the primary country of the world, making all of you the foreign fags.

Oh my, and then people ask "Why do you hate Americans?"

>>3075720
Not to mention a the few plane crashes that occurred since these was a mixup in the conversion from kilograms to americanbullshit.

>>3075720
What? The two disasters were caused by foam impact damage on the heat shields, and o-rings that vaporized under adverse temperatures, respectively.

I wanted to like White Ren, but he is making it impossible with his ignorant posts.

>>3075713
Silly Ren, everyone knows Greenwich is the world's center for time.

>>3075738
Is that what your media is telling you? lol

>>3075725
The reason people hate Americans is because we are better than everyone else at everything. Hence, they're jealous faggots.

GTFO inferior foreign faggots with your inferior minds.

I'm really curious about this matter, since americans dont use the standard SI units how do you calcualte in physics? I mean most of the forumas are based on grams, kelvin(equal to a celzuis), meters and all the other SI units.

It's clear that 1 kilogram of water occupies 1 cubic decimeter and thrust we have 1 liter.

Oh wait dont you use onces or OZ or whatever?

How does one do physics in oz,feet,fahrenheit etc...

typical american

i thought about killing myself

>>3075739
In before he quotes you saying you're his "stalker".

The funniest thing about the imperial units - and there are a lot of funny things - is that the unit "barrel", which is bigger than a gallon and used to measure volume, is an entirely different amount depending on WHAT it's a barrel of. A barrel of oil for example is a different amount than a barrel of gasoline.

ITT We hate our own nationality.

....THE WORLD DIDN'T EXPLODE


dammit.

>>3075745
So, you just like making shit up?

The Mars Orbiter did burn up because of a conversion failure, but that was over a decade ago. No space shuttle has been lost because of a conversion failure. There was one plane that was forced to make an emergency landing because of fuel miscalculation, but it didn't crash.

Silly foreign fags.

>>3075757

Suggesting there is room for improvement is not hate, it's being realistic.

The imperial system is an abomination that should not exist.

Oh wow. Feet? Barrels? These names are hilarious.

>>3075755
Doesn't the barrel just represent a cylindrical portion of 3d space. Just like one cubic meter? Except this one is like Pi*r^2

>>3075776
Hey, I love the metric system. It's simple and not confusing.

I like the 'slug'

>>3075747
They have to convert everything to SI units, making all physical calculations about twice as long. Also it means that they must learn SI units also. And learning 2 sets of units is obviously retarded.

But they probably don't teach physics in USA anyway (or any other science) cause they fear that learning science might make them realize that their precious god isn't real.

>>3075798
You can choose between taking physics or chemistry in american high schools.

>>3075798
>Hurr, I troll because I don't know shit about how American physicists operate.

>>3075798
People still believe in god?

>>3075807
You look foolish. Stop that.

>>3075798
They teach theology in some private schools, but that's about it.

>>3075747
quite simply, you don't. In all my physics classes we used SI, and it was really fucking confusing if I went to some other class that incorporated some basic physics and they were using imperial; you have to include constants in all the fucking equations, which are basically just "hidden" conversion factors so that the non-scientific types don't have their brains hurt by having to use metric.

As an American, I'm used to using stuff like feet/inches for height, miles, pounds, etc. and it doesn't really make any difference for everyday use. But using imperial for science is fucking retarded.

>>3075808
In America they do. In schools they can't even teach kids about evolution without parents' permission.

>>3075798
Oh, haha, I get it. A Christian joke.

>>3075821
You've never been to America, have you?

>>3075821
I only worship one God(dess)

>>3075798
I'm seriously interested in this, i mean do they really have to do this? I mean it's beyond illogical.
>>3075807
Tell me America-kun do you really have to do it this way?
I mean our conversion are usually based simply dividing two units to get a third one, do you have to convert and then divide?

Do your test go like "This shit is 234 pounds and is 323oz tell us the density?" Do you have to convert to gram/cm^3 or kg/m^3 ?

>>3075827
He must have only visited the bible belt.

>>3075827
What? I live in America, and my parents had to sign some paper to allow the teacher to teach me about evolution.

>>3075832
Converting metric to standard and vice versa is something you learn early on in mathematics, yeah.

>>3075820
Oh my I didnt think it was this bad... at least the use of constants reduces the shittines.

WORSHIP

>>3075821
That's a blatant lie.

>>3075835
Doesn't even matter with that. Sure, you have some crazy people trying to push that "Creationism" bullshit as an alternative choice around in places, but it always gets shot down.

>>3075837
Really? I grew up in Virginia, and apart from sex ed (which parents could sign people out of, but was standard otherwise) there was nothing like that.

>>3075848
But I'm not lying... Maybe it was just my school.

>>3075840
While I do accept that the extra conversion is good brain training it's unnecessary.

So you higher educated Americans if i say I weight(let's disregard that weight is actually in newtons) 65 kilogram would you know approximately how much that is? Because I sure have no idea when you tell me in your imperial units.

>>3075850
This.

And even then I was too embarrassed to ask my parents to sign the sex-ed sheet and the teachers didn't seem to care.

>>3075848
>but it always gets shot down
No, also you allow shit like The Discovery Institute and shit like that.

How much I raged when I hear that pseudo-scientific bullshit. They dont believe in god or anything, yet they keep quoting the bible.

Intelligent Design, yeah but they never think about let's say aliens form another solar system or something similar. Only god could have designed it all the BIBLE GOD. Looking in the DNA for intelligent design ... what a piece of bullshit.

>>3075843
One of the worst things about imperial in physics is the fact that kilograms and pounds are NOT equivalent units; kilograms = mass, while pounds = weight (i.e. force due to gravity). Pounds are thus comparable to newtons, and there's some other unit I can't even remember the name of that's the imperial unit for mass.

Of course the difference between mass and weight doesn't really matter as long as you stay in Earth's gravity; so like I said, imperial is fine for everyday use, but attempting to do any scientific calculations with it is a joke.

>>3075806
>You can choose between taking physics or chemistry in american high schools.
You can't do both? Wow, America really is pretty shit.
Still, I can hardly talk, science in British schools has gone to shit under "New" Labour. Stupid shitty egalitarianism "everyone is a winner" mentality means they've taken every difficult part out of science, understanding scientific concepts has been pulled out almost completely in favour of rote memorization, and you can pass GCSE science exams with general knowledge. It was only a little bad until about 2 years ago, when Labour decided to shit on science completely and start trying to make it a vocational subject.

>>3075886
Oh my I never had the idea that pounds where scientifically a weight unit and not mass, that makes it all the more confusing, well thanks for the insight. Now I see how unnecessarily complex your education sometimes is.

>>3075897
No, you pick which one you do first.

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/jp/

Calendar discussion, SI vs. imperial, America vs. Europe? It's like I'm really in /g/.

>>3075897
>You can't do both?

You can if you want to.

>>3075911
More pictures of faces like this please. I lost my collection.

>>3075914
That's not a face bro.

>>3075878
Everything they've done has been shot down or outright revoked by courts. And I'm not responsible for shit. I don't vote for any of the stooges that represent that "institute," nor do I contribute money to them.

Just like with Obama and all the other socialist douchebags America currently has, I didn't vote for them, and I certainly as fuck didn't vote for any of the neo-religious nutholes that are trying to co-opt the "other side." I'm not crazy. Everybody else is. Which is why I've given up about anything any political body in the world is doing.

They're all fucking nuts. None of them believe in personal responsibility or freedoms. They all want a government that rules everything we do. They all want to bankrupt us with enormous taxes for policies and programs that support only their piggish constituents. They're all fucking insane.

Now THAT was a fascinating post, and should be appropriately ignored.

>>3075904
How is that needlessly complex? You can have something that is very heavy, but not massive.

>>3075916
GJ.

>>3075907
>>3075913

But I mean I had them since 7th grade. Chemistry and Physics interconnected, you learned the basic of each and then you didnt have the learn the physics part of the chemistry since you already learned that in physics class so you could skip the learning part in chemistry and head straight for the problem.

>>3075920
No you can't. If something has a lot of mass, it will be heavy, and vice versa.

>>3075921
At least someone appreciates me.

>>3075930
I was being sarcastic, silly.

>This thread

>>3075927
What. Mass is different from "weight," which is an observable effect of the attraction between two general masses.

Weight is going to be exceedingly different depending on the gravitational attraction you are experiencing, and therefore is not constant. Mass is constant, and thus is a measure of the object.

Something on Earth will weigh less on the Moon. This is elementary.

>>3075832
No, even though the units of measurement are different, they remain consistent values. Okay, except for barrels. And the nature of the item you're measuring. And all that crud from back in the day when the imperial units were all based on measurements taken of the king, and thus changed and had to be updated every time the crown was passed on, or were based on measurements of your own body, and thus changed from person to person. Still, for every SI unit of measure, there's an equivalent unit in Imperial (or American, there are plenty of difference between the two systems and SI, and it gives me headaches), so you can remain completely within whichever system you're using. Converting between them uses simple multiplication by constant conversion values.

>>"This shit is 234 pounds and is 323oz tell us the density?"
That's not enough information to find the density. Pounds and ounces are both units of weight (1 pound = 16 ounces). Still, it's easy enough if I assume you meant 323 ft³. 234lb/323ft³ = ~0.724 lb/ft³. It's still just taking weight and dividing by volume, nothing special needs to be done to calculate so long as you keep your units properly noted. As long as you have the units listed, if a conversion does need to be done, it can be.

Well, I totally missed 123456789 (for Eastern Standard Time USA).

As for the SI vs. Imperial debate, I have nothing to contribute. I did live six years outside the US (and the other 17 in it), so I feel quite comfortable with both systems.

>>3075943
Yes, but something that is massive will also be "very heavy". It's a comparative statement. 10kg will always weigh more than 1kg in the same place.

>>3075950
For some reason or another i always though oz was something like a Liter as in a standardized unit for the measure of space.

1 Liter= 1 kilogram of water on 1 Decimeter cubic

So I'm sorry for the mixup I did think Oz was something like a liter because it's always used on cosmetic and culinary stuff.

>>3075943
Fun fact: Pounds existed before we discovered gravity, thus, it had originally been a unit of weight. Once it was known that weight was a result of gravitational attraction between objects, the pound was quickly redefined to be a proper unit of mass.

I screwed up in >>3075950
by calling the pound a unit of weight, but in my defense I had historical meanings on the brain. Just replace "weight" with "mass" and it's good.

>>3075950
ounces are also a unit of volume, as well as a unit of weight.

And simple calculations like this example of density are fine because the imperial system just uses a unit that consists of the units being divided or multiplied (like newton-meters vs. foot-pounds for torque).

The problems are:
1) when you have to switch between units where the imperial system doesn't have a simple conversion.... All SI units on the other hand can be converted without having to mess with constants that have to be memorized; for example a liter is just a cubic decimeter, while a gallon doesn't have any neat relation to the cube of the imperial length units.

2) when the calculations involve addition and subtraction... in particular anything that uses temperature MUST be converted to Kelvin because it doesn't have a proportionate relation to Fahrenheit (or Celsius either)

>>3075988
So I was right onuces can be volume too?

I was eating a pizza when 123456789 happened.

>>3075987
Yes, but it's a terrible usage.

The calender and clock were created by man, so this is really a meaningless event. This is as bad as celebrating GETs or posts ending in 5.

/jp/ - Homework

The question is... why is it that Americnas speak of globalisation but are unable to adapt themself?

>>3076011
So I suppose you reject new years celebrations.

>>3075988
You're thinking of the fluid ounce (fl oz). Yes, it's retarded to have the same name used in blatantly different measurements, but they are differentiated.

That last bit about Kelvin reminded me that sooner or later, yet another shift will happen in the measuring systems that will be even larger than the adoption of SI. We've finally been able to pin down a few of the "absolute" values, such as absolute zero for temperature. We're getting close to finding out the minimum values for the passage of time (which is the interval at which change can be observed. A shorter time wouldn't have any change, and thus debatably couldn't exist), and of mass. If we can pin down enough of these, a number of the constants (actually kludge factors) used in physics should, theoretically, vanish. At that point, a system of measurement can be adopted that will be as close to perfect as you can get, as it would be based upon the fundamental properties of matter. Even SI had to kludge and use the Earth as the basis of its units of measure (one meter = one ten-millionth of the distance from the Equator to the North Pole).

>>3076020
Yes. I also reject birthdays.