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3051527 No.3051527 [Reply] [Original]

If Arc is both the main heroine and fan favorite (and rightfully so), then why is she absent in 3 out of 5 routes in Tsukihime, why does it feel like she has the least amount of screentime of the 5 heroines in KT (yeah, probably because they counted Neko Arc as a portion of her screentime), and why does it feel like she doesn't get much screentime in MB?

Tsukihime 2 is set up so that Arcueid probably won't have much screentime there, either.

>> No.3051537

>(and rightfully so)
[citation needed]

>> No.3051538

>>3051537

Tasteless faggot detected.

>> No.3051544
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>>3051538
Ciel > Arc

>> No.3051543

But she got her route animated.

>> No.3051546

>>3051543
>animated
There is no Tsukihime anime.

>> No.3051550
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Akiha > *

>> No.3051555

>>3051544

Checking detector's functionality by looking at a second source.

Everything appears to be in order.

>> No.3051556

Arc, Akiha and Kohaku are the best.

>> No.3051562
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Nrvnqsr > Akiha

>> No.3051565

>>3051556

Indeed.

Arc = Kohaku = Rin > Akiha > all other Type Moon characters

>> No.3051575

>>3051565
>Rin > Akiha

Reaction image thread.

>> No.3051577

Nero was a shitty villain. His whole gimmick was just... blah. So fucking boring and childish. He didn't feel even a little bit threatening OR fun to beat.

>> No.3051574

>>3051565
I'd say:

Ilya > White Len > Stheno = Eyryale > Len > all other Type Moon characters

>> No.3051573

>>3051527
Arc is one of the main heroines and prevalent in near side, and Far-side has a different focus. She is not supposed to be the only heroine to get all the focus.

Fan-favorite has nothing to do with screentime.

MB is Sion's story, and KT is sidestory, facts and what-ifs, so irrelevant.

Pointless complaints are pointless.

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I'm more concerned that the best girl lost all the things that made her interesting in KT and Japan dislikes her even though she has the best end.

>> No.3051584

>>3051578
Just remember that Japan usually doesn't have good taste.

>> No.3051585

>>3051577
I thought he was an awesome comic relief character in KT. A villain, not so much. But Roa sucked as well.

>> No.3051589

>>3051578
>>3051578
Japan dislikes her? What? Citation needed.
She is obviously the most pure and most badass girl in TM universe outside of R.Shiki.

>> No.3051593

>>3051577
He ate a hotel full of people in minutes, And kicked you and Arc around. And there is no gameplay, where would you find the fun in beating him?
This post is weird.
>>3051578
Actually just behind Arc in the latest poll.

>> No.3051598

>>3051593
>He ate a hotel full of people in minutes, And kicked you and Arc around.

And despite that, he didn't manage to be even slightly menacing.

>> No.3051602

>>3051593
That's good to hear, I remember her being 5th before. Are the new polls based on MB?

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>>3051589

Play KT. Its brought up a few times.

Good thing they acquired some fucking taste over time.

>> No.3051604

>>3051598
>>3051593
>>3051577

The reason Nero sucked as a villain was because he used animals as his main power. And everybody knows animals are cute and cuddly wuddlies that little girls hug and it's fucking impossible to take anything with animals in it seriously. The moment he summoned a shark, a crocodile and a fucking deer in a hotel room he was forever doomed to be a joke character at best. Something out of Doctor McNinja.

>> No.3051605

>>3051598
A guy who stalks you, eats people without a hint of emotion and place you and the obviously strong vampire in peril gave a pretty obvious feeling of 'We are fucked'.
Add 'Sudden Shark bad end' and I wonder how the fuck we achieve survival.

Whatever criteria you have for menace, have very weird filters.

>> No.3051610

>>3051602
Not based on anything.
'Vote for all characters in the extened Tsukihime setting' and that is it.

>> No.3051616

>>3051584

>Just remember that the majority group in an anime fandom doesn't usually have good taste.

Fixed.

Tasteless fanbases aren't something that's exclusive to Japan. Go look at the mass majority of anime message boards.

This >>3051603 is much better, though, and at least Arc's consistently stayed at the top.

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>>3051603
lol, Hisui is even less popular than Sacchin.

>> No.3051620

>>3051616
This definitely explain Saber popularity.
I wonder what is japan fascination over ditzy blonde foreigner.

>> No.3051621

>>3051605
I can't wait for them to graphically draw the giant cockroaches devouring people in the hotel for the remake.

>> No.3051624

>>3051618

Ciel needs to be kicked to that back of that poll.

Then it'd be just about perfect.

>> No.3051628

Just started reading Tsukihimay after wading through FSN despite mostly disliking it. Aiming for Ciel's route next because her pseudo-nun outfit looks cool in the fanart and because she acted friendly. Just reached the scenes after killing Nero in the park. Observations so far:

- Holy shit this is low tech I mean damn, when was this made, 1989?
- Oddly, Tsukihime seems (so far) to be translated a lot better than FSN was, despite being an earlier work and by the same translation team
- While I hated Rin with all my body parts, especially my penor, Akiha seems to be surprisingly tolerable so far. Does she turn the bitch-o-meter up later or what?
- Arcueid was described to me as an improved version of Saber, but other than the blonde gaijin thing, I don't see similarity. Saber was a dutiful warrior type, Arcueid seems to be an indestructible cloudcuckoolander. I don't hate her so far, but the way her invincibility is hyped up is quickly eating my interest in her. I never liked invincible characters.

>> No.3051631

>>3051620
Saber is not ditzy though.

Arc and Saber are nothing alike, and I doubt the people that bothered to vote used 'Blondie' as their only basis.

>>3051618
No new content/development in later extensions.

>> No.3051633

>Aiming for Ciel's route next
>next

Meant "first", obv.

>> No.3051637

>>3051628
You should realize you did not dislike Rin because 'Tsun or mean' only.
Arc will be surprisingly vulnerable as the story goes.
Fanmade project in 2000.

And Arc truly has nothing to do with Saber.

As for the translation, I think it may be a bit more polished, but qualkity is about the same.

>> No.3051641

Saber is small and flat while arc is big ol titties. You can't call them similar.

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>>3051631
She has the Brainwasher Detective shtick.

>> No.3051647

>>3051628
>- While I hated Rin with all my body parts, especially my penor, Akiha seems to be surprisingly tolerable so far. Does she turn the bitch-o-meter up later or what?

Very much so.

>- Arcueid was described to me as an improved version of Saber, but other than the blonde gaijin thing, I don't see similarity. Saber was a dutiful warrior type, Arcueid seems to be an indestructible cloudcuckoolander. I don't hate her so far, but the way her invincibility is hyped up is quickly eating my interest in her. I never liked invincible characters.

Her hype also serves as hype for Shiki's murdering skills, since he dismantles her in her very first appearance.

>> No.3051650

>>3051637
>You should realize you did not dislike Rin because 'Tsun or mean' only.

What are you saying?

>> No.3051657

>>3051643
Not capitalized properly
>>3051650
That this is the only trait Rin and Akiha 'somewhat' share.
So any opinion he has for Rin has nothing to do with Akiha and should not be surprised he has a different image.

>> No.3051658

>>3051647

I'm detecting another stupid faggot that missed Roa's presence in Kohaku's route.

>> No.3051666

>>3051658
Look pal, I don't care if she was influenced by Roa. The desire to control Shiki and keep him as her own came from her heart sincerely.

>> No.3051678

>>3051666
except she tries to hurt him and later kill him, which goes against EVERYTHING else she wished for under every other circumstance, but we ignore that since it makes my statement stupid

>> No.3051687

>>3051666
Yes, that's why she also tries to kill him in her own route.

>> No.3051700

>>3051687
Except she doesn't.
What the fuck did you read?

>> No.3051703

>>3051666

The whole idea is that everybody has dark side. Roa forces it out.

Under normal circumstances, Akiha would never have done something like that. She was seemingly aware of Kohaku's plans but kept her around anyways because she liked and felt sorry for her.

Getting pissed that Shiki was choosing the traitor over her after she had done as much for him as she had and wanting to hurt Kohaku and force Shiki to come to her side is a pretty normal reaction considering the circumstances.

What separates moralfags from selfish and treacherous people isn't the lack of desire to be selfish, but the fact that they put doing the right thing over their id.

>> No.3051708

>>3051700
I'm sorry, I forgot that sarcasm doesn't work really well on the internet.

>> No.3051709

>>3051687
What? Are you talking about when she bites him? That has nothing to do with being a bitch, as she's basically an autistic child at that point.

>> No.3051717

>>3051708
There is a difference between sarcasm and 'I spurted bullshit, but I'll say 'Hey, I was sarcastic' to save face'

>> No.3051722

>>3051717
Yes, because, obviously, I don't know a thing about my favourite route.
If you couldn't tell, that was also sarcasm

>> No.3051728

>>3051628

Oh, one more observation:

- Shiki seems to be a lot more acceptable protagonist than Shirou was. He actually talks back to people who mock him, something I can't remember Shirou ever doing, and so far he hasn't stopped even once to muse out facepalmers like "sharing a bed... that means sleeping in the same bed, right?" His apparent IQ is at least twenty points higher.

>> No.3051733

I've been wondering about this for a while, might as well ask it here.
Are there any theories on what happened to Shiki after the Akiha (True?) end.
I'm not sure if it's the true end, but it's the one where Akiha stays normal and finds his knife

>> No.3051736

Akiha > Satsuki > Arc > Hisui > Kohaku > Ciel

prove me wrong

>> No.3051739

>>3051722
This seems more like an accurate statement.
>>3051728
Shirou does it much less often, but he is hardheaded and in UBW and HF quite antagonistic towards certain people. He even learns to enjoy teasing.
Shiki does this more often and prominently though.

>> No.3051741

>>3051728
I liked Shirou more. He has a distinct personality which is even the focus of one of the 3 routes, whereas Shiki is much more of a generic nice guy VN lead.

>> No.3051745

Akiha = Arc > Satsuki > Kohaku > Hisui > Ciel

>> No.3051747

>Shiki
>generic nice guy
What?

>> No.3051748

>>3051733
Play Kagetsu Tohya.

>> No.3051758

>>3051747
Other than when his personality inverts, which is quite rare and he effectively is another person then.

>> No.3051753

I was expecting Shiki to be less of a 'good guy' when I first started playing Tsukihime, I guess /jp/ gave me some false expectations. I whole 'eyes make you insane' thing, I was expecting a character like Fuminori.

yes I played Saya before Tsukihime

>> No.3051751

>>3051733
A probable follow-up indicates Ciel picked him up)since Shiki asked her to clear up things if he failed) and restored his lifeforce. Regardless if the KT side story comes true, Shiki possibly survives one way or another

>> No.3051755

>>3051747
I remember during the Arcuied h-scene where she starts crying and he tells her to shut up. What a prince.

>> No.3051762

>>3051753
Shiki can turn his eyes off using his glasses. He WOULD have ended up insane had he not had them.

>> No.3051763

>>3051755
Most VN leads turn into assholes during H-scenes.

>> No.3051774

And him acting like a prick during sex isn't a good thing from a characterization perspective anyway, since you wouldn't expect his personality to just change because of it.

>> No.3051782

>>3051774
Shiki can be quite a dick at points(and not just in choices you can make).
He is a normal man, who can get weird thoughs about girls, get pissed about thing and even be irrational.

This is kinda lost in MB, in which there is no resolution and Heroine choice, so he becomes kinder with the heroic lack of love interests.

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>> No.3052037

am i the only one who was pissed that raping her lead to a bad end??? i mean, i was her fault she got raped

>> No.3052062

>>3052037
If you are smart, you can get the 'Live a normal life' End and survive.

>> No.3052063

>>3052037
I didn't have the guts to rape the possibly strongest person in the Nasuverse at that time.

>> No.3052072

>>3052063
You should not have really known she is the strongest being in the extended universe unless you followed up some very weird fucking reading order.

>> No.3052086

>>3052063
why, when the first time you meet her you stalked her to her house and killed the fuck out of her?

>> No.3052141

>>3052086
Still, it'd feel weird.
And yeah, I had a pretty weird reading order

>> No.3052427

>>3051755

Was that during the rape scene or in the actual H-scene?

>> No.3052437

>>3052427
During the 'Pure Love' scene.

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She'll always be number one in my heart. ;_;

>> No.3052464

>>3051574
As disturbed as I am that you would rate Illya first, the second choice sort of makes up for it!

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