/jp/ - Otaku Culture

'Course bro, there's nothing left in reality for me.

>>3031586
Well, I don't speak for ALL of /jp/ when I say we want nothing more to do with reality.

Just 99.9%.

And if they do, they'll probably make my fantasies illegal.

No, because they actually haven't invented complete virtual reality.

Currently saving up for it

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>>3031604
So long as you stay forever in your fantasies, I don't think there's any reason to outlaw your child porn. After all, there's no chance of you acting on your fantasies and raping real children, since fantasies are always better than reality (no cops to deal with, etc)

>>3031576
>They finally invent virtual reality machines
Are you just fantasizing, or has this actually happened?

>>3031672
no, for serious. look on fox news.

>>3031680
Give link. All I'm finding is "Gaming is an addiction"

>>3031711
He was joking.
There's never real news on Fox.

>>3031653

That is until moralfags step in, then they make your fantasies similar to that of RL.

You are fucked, dude.

>>3031715
Perhaps the same could be said of all news channels.

Can you give links ? Im curious.

Tested this after work today.. it completely jumbled my memories up and the fantasy started glitching all of a sudden before I woke up

It malfunctioned, and I had to tackle my inner demons in the form of characters to survive.

Luckily, I defeated them and don't need the machine any more.

>>3031902
>work
too obvious, anon

When full VR simulations really are invented, I fully expect feminist groups to make anything remotely entertaining in them illegal.

>>3031963
Doesn't mean they could enforce it. I mean look at cellphones while driving laws. Or piracy laws etc.

>>3031963
If they get banned, we just have to make the shit our damnselves.

>>3031987
Or child pornography laws. See >>3031997

I can't wait for VR Internet

>>3032011
I'd be too scared of what that'd look like, especially here.

>>3032026
Blue room
Tables are threads
You can sit down at a table and take place in a conversation with others
Images are shown as holograms
Every post is recorded in the table which can be accessed any time
Since it's anonymous, you can change your appearance to anything
Janitor is sleeping on the ground
Someone brought his personal pirated NPC slave, everyone takes turns raping her

>>3032069
>Since it's anonymous, you can change your appearance to anything
So, does that mean I can be generic eroge protaganist #45?

>>3032091
Yes and you can be the little girl too

>>3032091
>>3032097
You can be anything but you won't have a face. Faceless little girl moe.

>>3032069

The thought that we are only 10-20 years away from this makes my balls tingle in a totally non-sexual way.

>>3032131
>The thought that we are only 10-20 years away
Oh man, I can't wait for 2000. We'll be using jetpacks and living on the moon!

there is hope yet before we die...live on my brothers.

>>3031576
Simulated reality seems better than virtual reality.

This thread is now an 'ITT it is the future' thread
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So what VRs do you visit other than VR/jp/? I mostly spend my time pretending to be the little girl over at VR/tg/, but I also like VR/v/. (Oh, and VR/d/, of course.)

>>3032167
Fascinating.

>>3032137

Take a look at Second Life, 3d mark up languages, and those ultrasound brainwave readers. Its all already there.

All we're waiting for is computer hardware, and internet connection speeds to catch up.

>>3032137
Jetpacks exist and, well, nobody really wants to live on the moon.

>>3032167
Virtual reality simulation.

I'm waiting on lcd paper so I can have a harem of anime girls running around in my home.

>>3031774
Every time a child is RAPED in these SICK simulators, all CHILDREN are VICTIMS of this act.
If you think my statement makes absolutely no sense, you are a paedophile who deserves to be raped in prison.

I think its going to be a hard thing to deal with. You can't have people just going into VR machines, even if they hooked everything up so you could just sit in one until you die there would still be stuff on the outside other people would have to deal with.

Then there will be cases of people dying because of malfunctions, and probably people getting killed by people outside of the machines for their money or they consider them worthless.

And national defense, I mean all social contracts break if basically someone wants to spend life in a pod.

>>3032219
>I think its going to be a hard thing to deal with. You can't have people just going into VR machines, even if they hooked everything up so you could just sit in one until you die there would still be stuff on the outside other people would have to deal with.
The people who would be liable to do this, guess what, ALREADY DO IT. You're posting on a board filled with them.
>Then there will be cases of people dying because of malfunctions, and probably people getting killed by people outside of the machines for their money or they consider them worthless.
What?

So yeah, I'm 2/5ths through Snow Crash. I don't really expect to see perfect simulation in my lifetime. But I'm already living as close to it as I can. Escapism + online communication + solitary study and contemplation. This is living.

Now I'm going to speculate. Tl;dr warning here. Computer technology will directly interface with our brains, that's a given. A particular set of mental faculties that the ultimate sim tech will leverage are those associated with dreaming. Consider the ability to dream up completely immersive, more-vivid-than-reality scenery. Far beyond the 'photorealism' attempts of videogames. But, to my knowledge, there's no need for the brain to render the scene down to all the fine details. As far as I can tell, you just experience a feeling of realness, and details only need to be generated if and when you choose to closely examine them. And they're made up of recombined bits and pieces of recalled real life sensations and percepts.

So the main challenge is to find a way to artificially control this. Lucid dreamers will know that natural techniques are currently quite workable. The separate computer component is essential. Because lucid dreaming is (or can be) ultimate freedom, while games are defined by restrictions (rules). For persistent/online spaces, a coherent objective description of things would need to be enforced.

>>3032294

Motherfucker, don't post this nightmare. It made me seriously depressed and confused, but I was able to overcome it. DON'T MAKE ME GO BACK TO THAT FEELING!

>>3032291
Fascinating.

Well if there is a workable brain-machine interface, your sexual pleasures will no longer be limited by your physical body.

Think about it, your body have to recover after an orgasm, but if it's stimulation directly beamed into the pleasure centre of the brain, there will be no reason why you have to recover, or 'cum' at all. Simply flip a switch and you can experience the most intense orgasm for as long as you like.

nanomachines

>>3032345
>Simply flip a switch and you can experience the most intense orgasm for as long as you like.
In before philosophers argue about whether or not this is an ideal life, and espouse wishy washy nonsense by appealing to romantic but worthless societal notions and guilt.

>>3032345
Humanity is doomed.

>>3032362
Don't worry. The orgasmotron will claim the lives of some, not all. Those who do it, too bad. Those who don't: only they will reproduce.

threads like this = proof that evolution is hard at work weeding the failures out of the gene pool

>>3032360
Well you can be harnessed for other things too. Let's say we use this technology to come up with a little gadget that is pluged into your brain as you go about your normal business. This gadget modifies the wiring so that the sensation of 'pain' is completely elimated biologically. The only thing a person feel is different degrees of pleasure. So that:

Fucking your waifu - more plasure
Burning your fingers - not so much pleasure

People would still function as they do now, only there's no pain. We've created a paradise where suffering on a biological level have been conquered.

>>3032377
Then why haven't people like us been weeded out yet?

>>3032383
...We ARE doomed after all.

>>3032383
I think pain and pleasure are only understood by their distances from each other. If 'mild displeasure' was the worst thing we ever experienced, we'd complain about that as much as we complain about pain.

>>3032391
We are being weeded out, since we're not going to reproduce.

>>3032410
Yet the next generation will still have geeks just like us even though we won't reproduce. Much like the previous generation did.

>I think pain and pleasure are only understood by their distances from each other

Well, people understand pain the moment they are born (circumcision anyone?), at that point they haven't experienced pleasure. So one would think it works the other way around too.

Geeks are useful to the herd. The clever productive kind, of course, not the NEET kind. Don't necessarily need to reproduce to be useful. Look at worker ants: sterile.

>>3032294
Why did noone finish translating this?

>>3032406
Or look at it another way, is it possible for someone to experience pain and pleasure at the same time? They can right? So pain and pleasure is not really the two ends of a single scale, rather two seperate scales.

>>3032410
>>3032417
Except you will reproduce. You're really kidding yourself if you think you're not going to end up another 40 year old failure working a dead-end job who hates himself with a bitch of a wife and kids who hate him as well.

Too bad humanity is hard at work stopping nature from weeding out retards, effectively making the whole population dumber.

>>3032383
No pain = BAD, it exists for a reason

Enjoy destroying your body because you take longer to avoid damaging situations, sometimes you won't even realize some part of you is wrong till it kills you. People born with conditions where they don't feel pain generally don't live very long.

>>3032436
So that my will to live isn't COMPLETELY shattered.

>>3032439
I'll get back to you in 17 years.

Could be used for other useful things too. Suppose we make another gadget that can plug into your head and it's a parallel processing unit, greatly speeding up all mental operations of your brain.

You wake up and you immediately recognise something is different about the world - everything seems to be happening in slow motion, you will now have to listern to your favourite touhou track on your ipod at 8x speed just to enjoy music as you know it. A single day to other unmodified people feels more than a week to you.

You now have a lifespan 8 times longer.

>>3032452
well pain would be replaced by less pleasure. Humans always seek to maximise their pleasure, so you are just using the pleasure seeking drive to replace pain avoidence.

>>3032478
>You now have a lifespan 8 times longer.
Fuck yes now I can dwell in my basement 8 times longer.

>>3032478
I wonder if you'd have to re-learn how to move your body since it would be going so fucking slow to you.

>>3032478
>>greatly speeding up all mental operations of your brain.
>>You now have a lifespan 8 times longer.
No. Your brain will age faster and you will live a shorter life.

I remember about they implanting a orgasmotron in a monkey. It died of starvation because it was too busy having orgasms.

>>3032496
>It died of starvation because it was too busy having orgasms.
Best. Death. Ever.

>>3032495
So adrenaline makes your brain age faster?
Look how stupid you are.

but the question is, if you do it all the damn time in VR then your quality of life is basically defined by taking your pleasures even further.

I mean, even these days you have your regular people who don't fap to futa then indulgers like us after deeper sexual gratification, imoutos, waifus, impossibly perfect and stylized women. Guro, futa, etc.

Could you even imagine what the world a person could be living in VR would look like after even a year of use just to keep it interesting? More akin to a nightmare.

>>3032551
You only feel guilty and fear because society have conditioned you to feel this way towards fetishes.

When simulated reality is here, it will destroy the society you know and create a new order. Then such behaviour won't be seen as abnormal at all.

(like Japan and lolicon now, for example)

By the time this will actually happen I will be like 50 or 60.

>>3032581
I agree with this guy.

All anybody would have to do is create the world and let others populate it. Chaos will be around at first, but once things level out, it'll be a great world to live in.

>>3032551
I've liked futa since the start. Never liked loli, still don't.

Hook up electro-stimulant pads to your muscles while you play in VR, so that all your adventures in VR exercise your body in reality.

>>3031680
THIS NEWS STATION IS AN EYESORE

>>3032622
If you like futa, clearly you would prefer shota.