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>> No.2994021
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Thick and Thin Niigaki
All the way

>> No.2994047 [DELETED] 

Sage for 3D pig who can't sing.

>> No.2994057
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Magazine vol. 23 has begun,
looking forward to some on camera antics!

Yes the trolls have been thick and have come in heavy waves the last couple days, but please stop by.

>> No.2994063

>>2994021
What. You're not making sense, that girl isn't fat or thin.
Go away, you're annoying.

>> No.2994072

>>2994057
Who cares about your dumb magazine.
Get out of /jp/. xD

>> No.2994089

During some graduation in MM the group lost their Phil Hartman. They ceased to be one cohesive unit and began their spiral into an assortment of individuals who look like they'd rather have nothing to do with each other. Every emotion seems forced, every appearance seemed awkward. The Hello! Project also suffered when groups graduated (Tanpopo, Pucchi Moni, etc) and replaced with inferior counterparts largely centered around useless singers (Viyuden [Ishikawa], EcoMoni [Ishikawa + Michishige], Country Musume [FUCKING ISHIKAWA AGAIN]) and while some groups hit a chord (Berryz, C-ute, and I guess GAM?) for the large part the feeling of the Hello! Project as one large group began to fade. The Hello! Project began it's spiral into many different groups. No more Summer Shuffle Groups.. not even a "Hello!' to the one-shot Hello! Project All-Stars.

These two situations occuring at roughly the same time began splintering the cohesiveness of the Hello! Project as a whole. An Idol group is only as good as it's weakest link.. and when every link seems to be problematic.. the Hello! Project was getting into deep water.

>> No.2994093

>>2994089
Who's Phil Hartman?

>> No.2994095

>>2994089
I really feel that H!P is a victim of mismanagement. From the way graduations and the way promotion has been handled I would guess that UFA can't be bothered to put any real effort into the H!P brand. Tsunku (as DS pointed out) is just the primary artist and audition director. Akimoto is the whole damn show. And now that Tsunku has his own brand where he's the head his efforts have been split between the two. I have heard some pretty damn solid stuff out of TNX so Tsunku still has 'it' but H!P and UFA aren't getting as much of 'it'.

I feel the MM brand has really weakened over the last two years. All the interesting members left and the craptastic half of 5th and all of the shitty 6th generation run the show. Koharu is more interesting than 4 out of the 5 girls with seniority. Takahashi a horrible leader, she has no personality or spine. As sales drop off nothing is done. They add a girl that can be summed up as part of the problem (no real personality) and two chinese girls that can outshine the entire lot but have some pretty serious language barriers.

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>>2994089

You Are a GOLDEN Morning Musume fan.

>> No.2994120

>>2994108
sup, bro. They should look hard for more worthy musumes, don't you think so? Little girls might find them sugoii and all, but we veterans don't.

>> No.2994125

>>2994093
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE UNIVERSE

>> No.2994127

>>2994057
I like vol. 13 better. When gaki was singing with tsunkun.

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>>2994120

Shin Morning Musume needs a new Nakazawa Yuko to beat the little cocky shit members into their place.

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>>2994093
Voice actor / actor. Did Troy McClure and others in The Simpsons. He got his face murdered by his wife I think. Some fans say that it was after his passing that The Simpsons went downhill.

And welcome back Golden era wota.

>> No.2994139

>>2994125
Yes, the UNIVERSE won't be complete without MUSUUUMEE. lol

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>>2994057

troll? What is this "Troll" word you keep using? You are the only ones that are trolls. The lolicon photobook wotas in this bbs are the ones spamming shit musume. 2009 fans can not even name the first gen members, or even tell the order of the what CD came after what.

>> No.2994168

>>2994141
I don't think so. She was a pretty bad attitude idol back in her time.
No one was willing to hang out with her.

>> No.2994178

>>2994164
I FUCKING LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE MACHINE

>> No.2994204

>>2994164
Oh the irony.

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>>2994168
>>2994168

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>>2994178

You Are a GOLDEN Morning Musume fan.

>> No.2994229 [DELETED] 

>>2994168
>>2994204
If you keep using the same name as me, I'll have to do this until you stop.

Do you really want another tripfriend on your board?

>> No.2994249

What about Magazine Vol. 23?

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>>2994164
Sadly true... I miss the old days...

>> No.2994339

>>2994321
Yeah, but you're in no position to say that.
unko musume lover xD

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>>2994321

Yes, it is sad, that there is not even a single member left in the current Morning Musume in any of those CD covers. EVERY member in this picture is gone.

I remember watching the Sydney Olympics, and seeing Morning Musume sing I WISH, for the Japanese team. I saw this CM on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDA30plikQ

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>>2994127
>When gaki was singing with tsunkun.
Any screenshots or torrent?
>>2994249
New subbed version was released a little bit ago, was about to start watching it.
http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=21650

Also
Guess thats what happens walking right into the troll front. Just report the trollesque posts and we'll be on our way.

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>>2994355

Go masturbate to your photobook kids wota. Just do not dare call yourself a real Morning Musume fan.

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Thanks Janitor-kun!

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Yes, your shit USA mods, are bias to the lolicon users I see. No fail, us GOLDEN Morning Musume fans will always be around. And we will not rest to reclaim the name of the one true Morning Musume.

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I am sleeply now. We will return again hamburger eaters.

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My god her lips are so juicy..

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I am a old fag momu fan myself. I dont think its right to just delete older momu fans threads. I know we are outnumbered now, but you have to admit, that all this underage sayu/gaki/eri/risa spamming is fucking annoying as hell. I was happy to see some older fans stick up for gens.

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Jabronisaur wouldn't approve of the moderators' behavior. He's been a H!P since the early '00s, he was probably to Morning Musume what the Library of Alexandria was to classical literature.

>> No.2994480

>>2994437
It's too bad he is a troll at heart first and fan second.
also
row row fight the powah bullshit....

>> No.2994493

I am going to call out the mods on this one.

They are just favoring the sayu photobook spammers over the real musical H!P posters. But it is perfectly okay to hate on old musume fans, insult their gens and delete their threads while if we call shit on yet another sayu thread, we get banned. I call bullshit.

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>>2994480

One user's Troll is another user's freedom fighter. it is nice that he does not even lock his name, so oppressed any older momu fan can voice their option on the absurdity of the sayu & gaki spammers and new generation of Morning Musume in general.

>> No.2994532

>>2994493

Its just that us older fans, need to find our promised land.

>> No.2994545

>>2994395
keikaku means plan

>> No.2994552

>>2994523
Thanks for the troll tactic lecture, noted for later attacks.

>> No.2994559

>>2994461

whos Jabronisaur? That golden nostalgiafag momu oldfag?

>> No.2994563

There's nothing wrong with voicing preference for one generation of another, but the density of the posters in these threads astounds me sometimes. The Golden Morning Musume guy is clearly the same troll who has flooded threads with MS Paint dicks, "aidorufaggies" nonsense, AKB images, and Jabronisaur junk. This is just another one of his trolling angles and you are fucking falling for it. Christ.

>> No.2994595

>>2994563

na, I dont think so. He was around a few months ago. and a few months before that and shows up every now and then only posting old school momusume threads and pics. I remember he went into a pretty in depth rant about why current momusume sucks (in his eyes). Hes just some bitter japanese momusume nostalgic fag that thinks the current momusume is the not the real thing and that new fans are some how tainting his nostalgic image of the momusume he once knew. In short, you either agree with him, or your a newfag. LOL sorry.

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>>2994559

He was a man who traveled all the way to AX to show his most heartfelt appreciation to Jun Jun and perished like a true wota would, doing what he loved best.
A true trooper.

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>>2994595

so in short, Morning Musume oldfags, versus Morning Musume newfags?

Think is, that golden nalstoliga fag thinks he still lives in the year 2001.

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Golden era wota was around way back when wasn't he? Posting photoshopped images of pregnant Sayu and what have you?
Hilarious shit.

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>>2994610

FUCK, is that the guy on mm-bbs.org? those people are assholes sometimes, well no, I take that back. they are the average Morning Musume oldfags,

>> No.2994638

>>2994633
yeah. He has some followers though too. I bet mm-bbs.org members....

>> No.2994651

>>2994610

yeah I heard about that. heard he got some wota's disease,and ended up dying. Thats why I wear med masks when I go to cons.

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fuuuuuck
the fujitv 26 hour tv marathon w/hexagon family starts in a few hours but the satoda-roda closed down. hopefully the yaguchi and tsuji rodas will capture every minute.

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>>2994616
Funny how you call him out on being stuck in 2001 when it's you who keep raking up that Morning Musume was bestowed the dubious title of "National Idol" 10 years ago whenever someone brings into question their CURRENT popularity in Japan. Pot, kettle, nigger, etc...

>> No.2994660

>>2994633
Yea, he was in the initial prenumbered thread days now that I recall. Its pretty clear that the old users who have moved on either to put idols behind them in a locked safe image or onto other groups...
They don't come here anymore so when they do and they see our thread up and running consistently they put their short 4chan time to use, to troll... They have no real agenda but to protect their own self interests, lifestyle, and past decisions.

I'm glad that you guys in this thread are comprehending this.

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>>2994660

us oldfag momu fans are around. We just try to ignore your annoying threads. sometimes, I have to admit, I like it when other oldfags come together. not to mention trading old and rare pics.

>> No.2994694

>>2994660

Lulz. I like how you say being a nostalgic Morning Musume fan is a LIFE STYLE choice.

>> No.2994701

>>2994684
I can tell an Akb troll when I see one.
And even if you aren't the whole old gen vs new gen fighting in this thread is fabricated for simplicity.
Unless you are in fact that old and crusty, yelling at kids to stay off your lawn.

>> No.2994712

>>2994694
A lifestyle is a construction of all the things that encompass you, I wasn't stating that but rather whichever lifestyle oldfans now have features a portion in which embodies their emotions and opinions about Musume.
Now go fuck off back to Britania

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>>2994694

Well you are a minority here. This is Risa land.

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>>2994713

See, this is the type of attitude that us old fags fucking hate around here. tired of this new fag spamming. thats all /jp/ momu threads are about these days. no one even talks about the music and songs anymore. its just sick and fuckign annoying.

>> No.2994740

the only time we talk is when hps subs something

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>>2994712

yeah yeah, don't try to act intelligent you pretentious cunt. I bet your a Sayumi fag under there. Don't forgot that.

>> No.2994744

>>2994727
all aboard the waaaaaaaaaambulance!

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>>2994727
Have you ever read 2ch threads in the last 10 years, if you haven't noticed its a constant revolving world. There are so many things going on if you cant fucking digest 20 stories in a day then you aren't doing it right.
Also
At no point do we ever discourage discussion of the music but it comes in waves like most 2ch threads. The thread lives and breathes in cycles.

Also
Watching Aika around Reina on this is so interesting, she was completely comfortable and relaxed.

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>>2994727

And this is why we hate old fans. They do nothing but bitch and complain. theres no pleasing them. Just except that the Morning Musume you knew is dead. It will be easy on you. Oh, and regards for that old hag Yoshizawa for me.

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this is your becon of old school is it not? the grad members are washed up, old, dried up, and no longer needed. there is a reason why they are not in the group anymore.

>> No.2994779

>>2994760
>troll post, disregard

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>>2994774
Nacchi or Maki is more of a becon for old fags then Hitomi.

>> No.2994790

>>2994774
ET has a lot of charm than that thing on the right.
What's your point of posting that picture, troll?

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>>2994660
I still drop by every now and then, just to be disappointed by the current state of the thread.

>> No.2994801

>>2994790
I had it on my comp, and I wanted to use it. L OL. also, lulz at the butt hurt old fags.

>> No.2994809

>>2994790
His point is that he has lolitrolued.

>> No.2994811

>>2994782
I agree and also Mari. And if you haven't noticed
there is a cloud of trolls hovering around our thread prodding the angles.
>>2994796
>just to be disappointed by the current state of the thread.
Cool defense mechanism bro

>> No.2994812

LOL, spitting on the grave of the former Musume.
You really deserve a lineup consisting exclusively of Chinese and Koreans with Koharu as a leader. The funny thing is that you would lap it up as eagerly as any other shit UFA has thrown at you in these past 4 years like the dogs you are.

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>>2994796

And here I was thinking that the nostalgia wotas lost this time. Well anyways, I count this as a victory against the nolsta-wotas for Eri.

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Well I for one welcome back the legitimate old thread posters if there are any actually, I think we have atleast one.
We were talking about watching Abe's graduation concert so I think that is a nice in between moment in Musume history.

>> No.2994825

Hay guyz, what's going on in this thread?

>> No.2994830

>>2994812
how 'bout a Korean? Malay? Mongolian?

>> No.2994836
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>>2994811

So anyone that is a original fan, and criticizes the state and member line up of the current group is a troll? This is why new Morning Musume fans are so pitiful. Because they refuse to admit they are now swimming in UFA old and stale pool of Nato.

The reason why the best and most talented Morning Musume members left H!P, because they knew it was turning to shit. They jumped the sinking boat.

>> No.2994849

>>2994830
I think they should get a Malay, they're pretty docile creatures. With cute big eyes and thick lips, just like anime girls.

>> No.2994850
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Hey, I just take comfort in the fact that in a year or two, I know that most of the current lineup will graduate, and since they have no real talent, they will force themselves into the gravure world, then into AVs.

>> No.2994851

so what do you oldfags think of akb48?
maybe you should let go of nostalgia and discover brand new idols all over again

>> No.2994856

whats akb48? The Japanese national idol group?

>> No.2994858

>>2994850
Welcome back, dear old wota.
I was sick of these newfags pretending to be smart at detecting trolls, complaining about oldfags criticizing the current musume lineups.

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>>2994836
Maki was the only one that left H!P. The rest just got shafted in that massive graduation. Ayaya needs to get the fuck out of UFA though.

>> No.2994868

>So anyone that is a original fan, and criticizes the state and member line up of the current group is a troll?
I was referring to the trolls who are playing both sides against each other.
There is a difference between criticizing the lineup and >they are now swimming in UFA old and stale pool of Nato
>because they knew it was turning to shit.
Miki left, secret boyfriend.
Mari quit, secret boyfriend.
Maki left, acting out, family issues, rumors, image issues.
Kago left, smoking, dating old men, breaking rules etc...

Abe and Yossie stayed for long periods of time to establish the structure in which we are witnessing the twilight right now.

If you want to have meaningful discussions, don't spout troll talking points, its rather simple.

>> No.2994870

>>2994850

hey, I am a fan since 2008, and I am looking forward to that. I don't think its a bad thing. I mean, they can make a even bigger fan base. As long as they have fans, they will be a star.

>> No.2994873

>>2994860
Said graduation meant that they were not fit for the current state of affairs in the HelloMusume group anymore. They do that on the tv all the time, a polite way of letting them exit.

>> No.2994874

>>2994858

thats not him. the old Japanese wota is:

GOLDEN モーニング娘。2000

hes sleeping right now. its almost 11am in japan right now.

>> No.2994879

>>2994873
>Morning Musume
not HelloMusume, fixed.

>> No.2994894

>>2994868
For fuck's sake, it's so easy to shove whatever you don't like or has been discussed before into the 'troll topics' bracket, isn't it. Get a forum and be a forum moderator.

>> No.2994906

>>2994870
Ahaha.
Get the fuck back to the Kids thread. You'll be probably more in your element with the two mouthbreathers posting in it.

>> No.2994911

>>2994894

thanks fellow old momu fan. Dont worry, these guys will know our pain when Sayu, and Gaki graduate. They really will be left out int he cold. They better enjoy their short term success while they can, because they will most likely drop out of sigh in the next few years, get married and gets knocked up.

then, 3 years from now, it will be Asia Musume, and there will be no Japanese members in it at all. They will post on about how Morning Musume was better with Japanese members, and non Japanese members is just not the same, and the Chinese fans will ban them out right for "trolling".

YOU WILL KNOW OUR PAIN!. you just wait!

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>>2994873
Yes, I know. I was merely pointing out that as far as I can remember Maki is the only member who decided to "leave the sinking ship" and journey towards greener pastures. The rest got fired or just graduated. Unless I'm missing something here..

>> No.2994918

>>2994616
I think so, Aso took a photo with them once. :3

>> No.2994925

>>2994894
Or I think I'll stay here, and you can pop back in another month or two to troll again. The sad thing is you've gone full troll and haven't even realized it.

>> No.2994929

>>2994868
What other forums does this guy frequent, anyone know?
I've got some serious issues to settle with him.

>> No.2994938

>>2994925
Oh hello there. Kindly provide your forum member name and the forum you lurk/post in. I'd like to 'talk' with you. Seriously.

>> No.2994943

>>2994911

lol, the new fags now, will be the old fags of tomorrow. And us old fags now, will be the ancient fags of tomorrow. They wont even know who the first 4 gens were, and will know only that there once existed older gens when they find ancient artifacts proving that they did in fact exist.

>> No.2994956

>>2994925
Only a moderator would be so darn paranoid, lol. Seems that the newfags here take everything seriously.

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>>2994943
>Thinking that at this rate there will be a future for Morning Busume.

I for one welcome the fast disbandment of MM.

>> No.2994962

>>2994929

how the hell can you settle a internet argument.

speaking as a Eri chan fan here.

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>>2994943
Thats usually the case with most of human history is it not, the sad thing is than rather bridge the gap between the generations some would rather sink the ship.
>Only a moderator would be so darn paranoid
I'm not paranoid at all, spotting some of you is so easy because you "CLEARLY" have to demonstrate how you're above the current structure of our threads.
But the truth is not too much has changed here on /jp/ in terms of Musume thread structure, don't believe me, look at the archives. Obviously the days of the 6 wotas are over and I liked to see some of them return but they've moved on or made changes as I've previously stated.
>>2994938
>I'd like to 'talk' with you. Seriously.
I'm a pure /jp/ wota, what do you have to say to me.

And
Jesus I'm trying to watch this vol. 23

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>>2994961

I as well. only because I want my Sayumi to be free, and spread her wings and hit it big.

>> No.2994994
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The future is looking bright for Japan

>> No.2995008
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Speaking of sinking ships.

>> No.2995012
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It's friday night bros!
Drink up.

>> No.2995018

>>2995008
momoko is not avex material

>> No.2995021

>>2994990

Whoa, wait, so if any posters are "above the current structure of our threads.", you turn into a hunter killer.

wow, your Great. awesomely man. must feel good to be the lone momu white knight of /jp/.

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>>2995012
Could of said it better myself,
some of you guys could use a drink like me.

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>>2995012

Sure I will. Let's sip and call each other bro in a cozy, non-homosexual way.

>> No.2995037

>>2995018

thats why she will be in AV 6 years from now.

>> No.2995043

>>2995021
The saying goes in Japan, the nail that stands out....

>> No.2995047

>>2995043

... is most likely not a lolicon loser.

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>>2995029
I only got about a shot and a half of whiskey and a few small bottles of sake, sucks since that's my supply for the weekend.

>>2995032
>the last booze.jpg
I saw what ya did thar.

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Some mari.

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Jesus, all this mess in a matter of hours.
Well, is anon going to watch the Abe concert or maybe Platinum 9 once again?

That magazine was great.

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Were any of the other magazines like this?

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How's the night treating you tonight bro?

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>>2995296
Perplexing really, don't know how to feel about these raids.
But I'm at the point tonight where it doesn't matter, howsaboutu?

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Long haired Ai-chan

>> No.2995372
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H!P Dvd 19 partial subs
http://od-radio.blogspot.com/2009/07/hello-project-dvd-magazine-volume-19.html

Probably the closest we'll get for this release.

>> No.2995427

>>2995296
AsahiSilverCan.jpg

>>2995365
looking mighty Hirano Aya-sama there, Aichan

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>>2995334
Listening to the new concert recs, it's decent, nice and catchy, one wota doin' weird chants though, heard same kind of chants from AX, but not in the concert, to actual AX goers.
Other than that, I'm bored as hell, going to watch that MM DVD Mag sub, than look at my Sayu PB.

I've been ridiculously lazy as of late, even haven't had the motivation to post here, I saw troll 'discussions', I wanted to pop along and say a few words, but I ended up taking a nap at work.

Also
Looking for a Aichan ass pic I had, nice and healthy, orange bikini, filled it quite nicely.

>> No.2995472

>>2995452

Like how all the Sayu fags automatically get butt hurt over "discussions". Bur I cant talk much, I just lurked all day and watched the fire works. I had to say, I took sides though with the old fag raiding.

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>>2995452
Nice, I loaded up Abe's graduation and wow what an audience, none of the songs really sparked me up so far, just getting into the Maki solo part. Ai-chan really is a crybaby and I don't think I'll be doing crysessions tonight. But at the same time it feels like I'm destined to watch this.
>I wanted to pop along and say a few words, but I ended up taking a nap at work.
There were a lot more trolls than old actual posters so I don't think you missed much.

>> No.2995493

>>2995474
Boring repost, post something new.
Oops. There's nothing new about the new musumes.

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I think Satoda captures this moment rather well.

>> No.2995512

ok guys, I think I know what happened...

all your "trolls" only came and raided this thread after you deleted their old fan thread. I say don't delete old momu fan threads, and they wont come a knocking. I was a innocent old momu fan in that thread, just posting some pics, and suddenly it was gone. NOT NICE MODS. So I guess, alot of the old momu fans got pissed and decided to head over to your Sayu thread.

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>>2995334
Can't seem to find it right now, so a Eri wink to keep you preoccupied.

>> No.2995544

>>2995512

I had a classmate that was a older fan. When I told him Ai Takahashi was my favorite, he gave me this look like "OH, you're one of those NEW Morning Musume fans...fuck off". I never forgot that and then he said something like... "every member after 4th generation sucks.". Pretty much sums up my feeling for older fans.

>> No.2995545

I very much enjoyed H!M, even the 2007 episodes despite the suckiness, but HM@ was just terrible. With the weekly show butchered and no specials like the Mechaikes coming out the entertainment factor just died off and these days I hardly care what they do. I still love my favourite girls as much as ever but when they're not given the chance to shine all I can do is watch in despair as they go about their weekly routine of boring. No wait, not even that anymore.

It's painfully obvious the girls don't enjoy their job nearly as much as they did two years back. AKB members generally do seem to have fun rather than just fake it for the cameras. Though I've seen exceptions there too.

What do you guys think? I'm kinda tired of MM already.

>> No.2995556

>>2995545
I share your pain, bro.

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found, Aichan for your troubles fellow anons.

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>>2995512
> I say don't delete old momu fan threads,
That wasn't an old momu fan thread..
I'm not the janitor but it handled everything tonight flawlessly imo tonight.
>>2995544
>"every member after 4th generation sucks.". Pretty much sums up my feeling for older fans.
Personally I'm glad that I haven't had this type of experience first hand but experienced through these threads over and over, I never really understand this approach, it only diminises the old generation with this sort of postering, a good fan would remind and demonstrate their foundation, a real senpai.

I do love me some Country Musume so I must continue watching now.

>> No.2995579

>>2995544
cool story, bro

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>>2995545

I am a 1998-2004 Morning Musume fan. I know your feeling, but mine has a bit of despair. Not because i had to watch slowly as every member I loved graduated, and then fell out of sight and mind. I despair because I thought long ago Morning Musume would disband, at the very least while it was still slightly popular and its image was not yet tainted by wota fanboys. Now it seems that Morning Musume and Hello Project in general will die a miserable and slow fade out of existence.

>> No.2995602

>>2995581
When you look at H!P sales its always the graduations concerts which sold the most. You would almost think they were graduating girls just to make a quick buck without caring about what would happen once all the girls that made the group are gone. Very few girls got what it takes to become the next best idol and they were foolish to think they could replace everyone's favorite girls with whoever signed up for audition. Or they just didn't care.

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>>2995573

its because the older fans became the old guy. You know the old guy that goes.. "You kids call THAT music?!?!", except with older morning musume fans, its more like.. "You kids call THAT Morning Musume?!?!? back in my day,,,,,"

>> No.2995631

>>2995604
But you can't deny the truth. :3

>> No.2995642

>>2995602
I think one of the reasons AKB does have it, although I'm sure there's an enemy here or there, is because they are constantly performing with each other either on-stage or on video. They have a sense of rapport with each other the way a classroom of kids would with each other. Most of them came in at the same time as each other, and although there's been members cycled in and out... they don't bring with them baggage or an air of superiority.

The stuffiness one could get from beating 5000 other girls to become the newest members. The snobbishness one could bring to the group if.. oh let's say.. you were called a Miracle Girl or something -cough Koharu cough- or hell.. even the awkward silences you would bring to the group if you didn't even speak the same language.

>> No.2995646

>>2995631
which ... is?

>> No.2995658

>>2995602
>Very few girls got what it takes to become the next best idol and they were foolish to think they could replace everyone's favorite girls with whoever signed up for audition. Or they just didn't care.
This is a good point to make, I think Tsunku has in fact been rather pioneer with his recent decisions but why not challenge the international challenge?
>You would almost think they were graduating girls just to make a quick buck without caring about what would happen once all the girls that made the group are gone.
You are oversimplifying way too much, do you really think that they didn't understand what graduating Abe would do, or Yossie. The point is, you can't stand still in time, there are younger generations that have been working for years for the spotlight.
>>2995604
>its because the older fans became the old guy.
No, I refuse to believe all old fans are jaded and bitter, it goes much deeper than this.

>> No.2995666

>>2995646
That the old musumes are really really that good. That's why everyone keeps talking and comparing them to the new kids.

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Imattou desu

>> No.2995684

Has anyone watched the new Kago Ai PV?

As mentioned, this is a great idea, long overdue.

Then again, the songs were chosen well in advance, the footage shot beforehand, and the entire project simply launched to boost interest in specific artists - while most of the kids were on vacation and able to spend extra time behind their computers. In short - a promo device, unlikely to overshadow official product.

I and other fans could no doubt produce superior PVs than the ones we've seen. Unfortunately, it's their job to do it, since they're getting paid for the effort, not us.

>> No.2995703

>>2995684
Yeah, it's technically their job, but they did their job. You know, that whole "official PV" they released? They also gave the fans original, source material which is more than can be said for other OPVs. And, they're offering a money prize for the winner; everyone who entered got the chance to be paid.

>> No.2995712

>>2995676
wakarani sude deseu desu desu

>> No.2995742

>>2994993

Aww they look adorable together. And yes that is one of the few pictures that makes Shoji look atleast a little attractive. She almost never does on Hexigon.
Looks like Miki went with on of the crowns she'd been looking at and shown on her journal.

And yes I would say as long as there are no sudden "announcements" in the next couple of weeks she will be one of the few idols to not have a shotgun birthday party.

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Where I stop with this video tonight
so far from the shortened H!M episode of Abe's graduation all I can describe this concert as being is a tease, each and every song teasing the audience about first love and boyfriend girlfriend stuff, I was rather surprised. I'm not knocking the set macking up Abe's graduation but it was a little suspicious in its message.

But I am of good cheer even after all of this.

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This is leader
I follow her wherever she go

>> No.2995922
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Meringue

>> No.2995934
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Good night /jp/
I can feel the spirits rising from the past

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>> No.2995978

>>2995870
take me to your leader

>>2995934
meanwhile the rest of us are left with the smell of rotting flesh

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>>2995978
ex Tsuji & Kago wotas?

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I would've loved to participate more from tonight, but I got side-tracked, I really wanted to get in the on the old vs. new catfight, but I was reading a manga..
Not expecting anymore from tonight, gonna drink up my sake, saving my sapporo and last bottle of sake for Saturday night.

Maybe in the morning, we should get ourselves a true sober discussion, to shake off that troll feeling off your backs. Or maybe just talk about current singles, PVs and shit like that, stuff get's boring fucking fast though.
Just finishing my Chanpuru concert rec, slightly surprised about Linlin not being center spot in the Aozora bit, and her not having a solo song while Ai and Reina got their solo songs out.

>> No.2996337

Sage for 3D disgusting pig thread.

>> No.2996347

>>2995764
I honestly think that UFA didn't really know what they were getting into when they signed on to this, since the H&A thing was much smaller and done almost completely under the guise of them as the fashion mascots and fans at Sakuracon actually seemed to respect the no photography rule. I'm glad that it went off without a hitch and the girls had so much fun, but it does like many of my friends here give me a feeling that UFA doesn't respect the members of its fanclubs all that much.

Anyways, that's just my take on things. I didn't mean it to sound anything like a rant, but I think that maybe it is hard to understand when wota are always presented this crazy bunch of guys, when in reality most are normal business men (and women, there are a lot of fangirls lately) who have just found one outlet to spend all their hardearned cash on. And UFA knows this, hence the average purchase at a concert coming to around $300 even for the only moderately obsessed fan.

>> No.2996354

>>2995978
Koharu is the best leader.

I'm not complaining, I couldn't have asked for more (outside of the girls performing their album tracks 8o.gif ) I'm just presenting the reality of the situation.

That reality is ...those wota can go suck a big fattie. If anything, it's the fault of the wota who originally caused the companies to be so concerned about fan interaction. This was their first time in L.A. They had less strict rules before they were huge in Japan, right? So it isn't very different, they are obviously more likely to give special incentives to their new audience. Especially since UFA didn't even know just how much people would actually care. It certainly isn't our fault that UFA abuses their power and have so much control over getting every penny out of Japanese fans. They gained that power because the fans were willing to go along with whatever they say, no matter what cost.

>> No.2996598

>>2996093
HAHA, I thought that was Jeff Bridges

>> No.2996611

>>2996598
That's Jabrinosaur, faget.

>> No.2996617

>>2996354
Well. You can always rely on the trusty ol' Hello!Online torrent tracker, which we /jp/ wotas are so tsundere for.

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awkwaaaard

>> No.2996775

>>2996767
retaaaaaaaard

>> No.2996794

>>2996767
wakaranai desu desu desu

>> No.2996953

sure is weekend in here.

i hope you're not all drunk.

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i'm watching a pantsufest

>> No.2996975

>>2996966
who's the girl in front of the green hexagon?

her toes look amazing (as does satoda mai's).

>> No.2996984

kinoshita yukina failed 5th gen auditioner

>> No.2997015

Obsessed fags are obsessed.

>> No.2997062 [SPOILER] 
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>>2995922
>>2995939
>>2996093
The show was alright last night, even that faggot Kei (慶) managed to make me laugh for the first time when he started singing Meccha Holiday in his car.

Shame the capper had to leave mid-show though.

>> No.2997071

>>512072
op can u giv me more info plox
http://www.Anom - m + nTalk.com/
> xg wh wifcdiddfudcgyfrufigxc dfsrur 4 jgbcfvf2hfs iyssed

>> No.2997095

>>2997062
As mentioned, this is a great video, long overdue.

Then again, the songs were chosen well in advance, the footage shot beforehand, and the entire project simply launched to boost interest in specific artists - while most of the kids were on vacation and able to spend extra time behind their computers. In short - a promo device, unlikely to overshadow official product.

I and other fans could no doubt produce superior PVs than the ones we've seen. Unfortunately, it's their job to do it, since they're getting paid for the effort, not us.

>> No.2997099

>>2996984
I beg to differ, I'm so happy for this member existing because it has brought the original Ai no Katsu PV into my life. It brings me such joy. Why NOT overlay a spinning slinky!

I originally thought the subgroup rivals were a reeeeeeeeally cheap way to make sales that would have VERY little chance of working. With the tracklist announcement out and ridiculous things like "Zoku Viyuuden", I really think this is just a one time thing for the fans, thus making that "very little chance" into "we're not actually trying to make sales, silly gooses!" Ah well.

I listened to most of the original songs and most of them do nothing for me, so I'm not sure how excited I am for the overall release. I'm doing cartwheels and backflips and spinning jumps over the Linlin solo, though!

>> No.2997098

>>223137
ur retartet lol
http://www.Anom - m + nTalk.com/
> rf fairbn gi xexvsi

>> No.2997104

>>2997062
speaking of Kei, there are very few girls in the current lineup that sound good live, and every single one of them is inconsistant. JunJun definately sounds strained and weak there, but she sounds fine in all of the performances I've seen of Ame no Furanai Hoshi. I don't think she is as consistantly off key, grating, and nasal as Koharu and Sayumi - members who they can barely clean up for the CD release. I'm not as concerned about live vocals as much as some other fans though, since I only watch live performances that seem like they might be interesting right when the DVD comes out, and then never watch them again.

>> No.2997114

>>2996975
It's LinLin. It's kind of sad that the original Biyuuden dissolved for no real reason (other than sales, I suppose, but that hasn't stopped other H!P acts) and no clear future for its members and now they're slapping the name on some random other girls while the original members are basically hanging out doing nothing (musically).

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pool of lotion

>> No.2997212

>>2997196

Not showing her wet with bra on makes me angry

>>2996966

I like these! Viyuden also makes sense because Sayumi has made moves to be seen as more adult lately. I'm not super big on Junjun but I'm already loving (if somewhat uncomfortable considering Risako is still, what, 15?) a sexy group with those three. I still don't like Mano Erina in Pucchimoni but whatever. She should be switched with Kamei in Tanpopo.

Reina and Takahashi are the two leads of the group so it makes sense to keep them out of mini-groups. Maybe we'll get a solo from them?

>> No.2997222 [DELETED] 

r u babboon
btw i luv dis site http://www.Anom - m + nTalk.com/ its gr8 mang
> fjfehibfjfftddifs hro ggiw

>> No.2997231

>>2997196
this is relevant to my interests.

>> No.2997252 [DELETED] 

OP is a faggot.
btw i luv dis site http://www.Anom - m + nTalk.com/ its gr8 mang
> fhidni e m ffyfcbffdut bidp odfaaf

>> No.2997264

>>2997252
I fully agree with you, mr bot.

>>2997231
Anything with musume on it is relevant. Redundant.

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>> No.2997286

>>2997283
Saki!Brows is still in HIGH-KING, right? Or I will throw an epic shitfit of monstrous proportion.
But, uh, where's Yurina? (Kumai? I just seriously blanked out at the screen trying to remember which name people usually call her by) or Chinami? OR MAIMI? Am I missing something? Were those three put in something that I didn't hear about?

The sheer fact that Erika and Maasa were put in a group, and not three girls who are probably (DEFINITELY in Maimi's case) more popular makes me more than a bit suspicious of the list, unless the Tsunkmaster's got something ELSE up his sleeve.

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>>2996172
>Maybe in the morning, we should get ourselves a true sober discussion, to shake off that troll feeling off your backs.
Underneath all of what happened last night I knew there were calmer heads wanting to actually discuss things, albeit a rather disjointed discussion with trolls tossed in here and there I think there was some good content.

>>2996354
>Koharu is the best leader.
You best be trolling
>So it isn't very different, they are obviously more likely to give special incentives to their new audience.
A bad point to bring up when trying to gather respect for international fans.
>They gained that power because the fans were willing to go along with whatever they say, no matter what cost.
The best point you made, I think they may have at some point have gotten a little over their head.

>BMA !!3gZe/74QYcJ
What the hell is this?

Also
Just waking up so sifting through

>> No.2997299

>>2997287
A newfag, welcome him to our ranks.

>>2997286
Some of these line-ups make less sense than others. Of all the things to do with Pucchimoni! Maybe giving Mano a song to sing that doesn't suck will help her become more likeable? I mostly love how much bitching the Viyuuden group is getting. No, neither Sayumi or JunJun have any singing ability and what Risako DOES have annoys everybody, but like. Am I the only one who remembers the original Viyuuden? The one with an anime vocalist with the range of three notes, a stronger vocalist that sounded like a goat, and Erika who sounded like EVERY VOICE EVER?

>> No.2997322

vuden needs more tits

>> No.2997323

>BMA !!3gZe/74QYcJ
>What the hell is this?
it's a tripcode. you can find out more by following the link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode

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>>2997104
>speaking of Kei, there are very few girls in the current lineup that sound good live, and every single one of them is inconsistant.
I'd say Ai and Eri are pretty consistent, I'm going to defend Shige live but they certainly give Koharu enough singing parts in most of the new and old songs.
>since I only watch live performances that seem like they might be interesting right when the DVD comes out, and then never watch them again.
What was your favorite DVD?
>>2997114
> It's kind of sad that the original Biyuuden dissolved for no real reason
Don't you think that group had run its course and I'm pretty sure Rika was fed up with whoring herself on stage for the wotas.
>>2997283
my god Mari what do they have you doing now

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>>2997299
>Am I the only one who remembers the original Viyuuden? The one with an anime vocalist with the range of three notes, a stronger vocalist that sounded like a goat, and Erika who sounded like EVERY VOICE EVER?
Yea I remember them, not the best mini group, but good member chemistry and Yui and Erika were welcome H!M additions. Watched them on the Spring 2007 DvD, wasn't too good.
>>2997323
I used what because a tripcode encompases both the person and the concept of the tripcode, so who are you?

>> No.2997347

>>2997322
ufa needs to learn how to better manage their resources.

>> No.2997353

>so who are you?
tee hee hee hee.

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>>2997353
Fuck off, reported

Also
oh hAi

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>>2997358
hAi to you too.

check out dem toes.

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26 hours of quality programming

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>> No.2997480

>>2997423
Is there video of the Musume portion up yet?

>> No.2997578

Radio show:
Young Town Saturday 7.25.2009 (Takahashi Ai, Michishige Sayumi)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nkx2ly

放送内容
  ★さんまさん『いいとも』出演裏話!
  ★IMALUちゃんの熱愛報道にさんまさんは?
  ★道重、バラエティで大活躍!?

>> No.2997686

>>2997578
Wat

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>> No.2997916

oldfag vs newfag lol.

It's about disposable fresh ass, however he started picking them based on looks and not on singing.
Tsunku knows it's just dry humping at this point
and is trying to wring what few remaining profits
remains.

>> No.2997950

how do you explain aika

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>>2997916
fascinating

>> No.2998044

>>2997950

How do you explain koharu?

It's quite obvious he needs
stronger personalities. That's why people
like MM originally. The current people
are sort of "meh" and the problem is they
get along too well. Original MM was full
of drama and competition for the limelight.

As to aika, you do know her japanese nickname right?

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>>2997950
Mature beyond her years both mentally and physically, already in several mini groups and has her own solo song from Platinum 9 disc.
While being overlooked thanks to Koharu's attention whoring she is finding her role within the group quickly.

>> No.2998062

>>2998044
>Original MM was full
of drama and competition for the limelight.
Original MM also had Utaban to develop their personalities in the limelight, not to mention Hello Morning.
Just watch that vol 23 magazine and you'll realize they have plenty of personality with the exception of Ai who plays much better off others, and yes Koharu has plenty of personality no matter how annoying it can be.

>> No.2998098

>>2998062

It only took years and years... remember how quiet
eri used to be? They were so in the background and
had so little time due to the strong personalities of
the older members... they were on autopilot for years.. now at least they have quirky new members.

As they said on utaban "like a mean that doesnt fill"

I like the tradition of knowing the old songs. Who knows he might get lucky and write another summer wedding... people wrote them off before that too,

>> No.2998123

>>2998098

like a meal... you know what I mean.
He needs to spin off ai-chan and add maybe three
new people. The chinese "exchange" members are
due to be ditched soon anyway. They can join the biyuden girls in upfront limbo...

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>>2998098
>remember how quiet eri used to be?
Remember how quiet Mari and Maki were, until they were continually prodded and in Maki's case lifted up on a pedestal.
> they were on autopilot for years.. now at least they have quirky new members
Autopilot or just plain being ignored, Utaban had a way of typecasting musume members as characters that probably are unlike them in reality, but that is television. Utaban was also partially responsible for making the wota love for young idols more acceptable thanks to Taka.
>I like the tradition of knowing the old songs.
I like those as well but honestly I find them to be rather outdated with todays pop scene, so I really like the new sound because for me it sounds fresh.
>The chinese "exchange" members are due to be ditched soon anyway.They can join the biyuden girls in upfront limbo...
Its sad but probably is true, Japan is just too unwilling to except them with open arms. Its a shame because they really are interesting and lin can actually sing real well.
But honestly I think Tsunku will stubbornly hold on to those members.

>> No.2998227

maki and mari were quiet but they weren't shy
they wouldn't start the conversation but you could get them talking
6th and half of 5th gen barely said anything

>> No.2998236

also, they seemed really sad most of the time, especially reina

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>>2998227
>they wouldn't start the conversation but you could get them talking
The same could be said about the current lineup, like that one Music Fighter episode, just a little prodding and you had great television.
But you still have a point with 5th and 6th generation additions being so timid and quiet.
I think at some point the girls being selected into Musume found it to be like a dream and were completely overwhelmed by the history and responsibility of working with the big girls. Yuko certainly kept things fiesty and Johnson was a fucking headcase starved for attention. The groups large size allowed members to be swallowed up and continue to be under-developed. Whether this was a natural occurance or deliberate it would have its obvious downsides.
Certain personalities like Rika's, Mari's, and Abe's just towered over the younger members and fans were spoiled in a way.

I'm not trying to make excuses as some of our current lineup found ways to be funny through those times, like Eri and Gaki-san. Eri worked out especially good because as she says she is best when she is backed against the wall, and that is probably the precise type of environment it was for them. Reina was always the lone wolf so she preferred to stay out of the main spotlight.

>> No.2998320

>>2998098
Morning Musume is comprised of nothing but "background members" now, none of them have really stepped up to try and actually replace the OGs.

>he might get lucky and write another summer wedding
The previous singles (and album which I couldn't even finish because it was so terrible) don't give me much hope in that department. Though with all the new groups, Tsunku will be hurling a ton of shit against the wall, maybe something might stick.

>>2998194
>and in Maki's case lifted up on a pedestal.
You don't think she was deserving?

>>2998227
Very true.

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Ok, generally, I like the 6th generation the most, is that bad?

pic related, it's my favorite member

>> No.2998350

>>2998286
yeah they're like that now
i think ai had some potential right at the beginning but she became too self conscious as she went on. if only she were more like the pandas back then
but it's also like taka said, he has to do the cooking. i think even music fighter has given up on conversations

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>>2998350
>i think ai had some potential right at the beginning but she became too self conscious as she went on.
Ai was always way too self conscious, she was angry that she couldn't be a big talker like Rika or the other members so she became withdrawn. Most of her Hello Morning characters generally weren't that great. But she excused because she is such a good singer.
>>2998320
>Morning Musume is comprised of nothing but "background members" now
I think the prolonged Yossie and Miki phased may have really done a number on the current lineup. Although Koharu shot through that period as was able to start her brief successful solo career but she seems stuck in between stages now.
But I think at least some of us can agree that Shige's personality is playing out rather well across the different appearances of late.
>You don't think she was deserving?
Oh she does but her personality was formulated based on this factor, I'm not hating on her but its like the first born who gets all the toys in a way.

>i think even music fighter has given up on conversations
I always had weird suspicions in why they changed the format for their next appearance there, I think it was a Tsunku move.

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>>2998350
>i think ai had some potential right at the beginning but she became too self conscious as she went on.
Ai was always way too self conscious, she was angry that she wasn't a big talker like Rika or the other members, so she became withdrawn and spacey. Most of her Hello Morning characters generally weren't that great either because of this. But she is excused because she is such a good singer and is the heart of Musume.
>>2998320
>Morning Musume is comprised of nothing but "background members" now
I think the prolonged Yossie and Miki phase may have really done a number on the current lineup. Although, Koharu shot progressed through that period and was able to start her brief successful solo career. However she seems stuck in between stages now and is wearing down the other members.
Also
I think at least some of us can agree that Shige's personality is playing out rather well across the different appearances of late, she was able to play off Rika & Yuko back then and emmerged as a good conversationalist.
>You don't think she was deserving?
Oh she certainly is but her personality was formulated based on this, I'm not hating on her but its like the first born who gets all the toys in a way, not the best personality but a great competitor and singer.

>i think even music fighter has given up on conversations
I always had weird suspicions of why they changed the format for that last appearance there, I think it was a Tsunku move to calm any flare ups between the Pandas and Koharu and Mittsi.
Sorry had to clean up my hastely written response.

>> No.2998485

>>2998451

new cd has solos. solos means graduaions

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>>2998485
Everyone knows graduations are on the horizon, just whether it will be a double header or not ;___;

>> No.2998520

Bet is on Ai-Gaki grad

Gaki is real thin and good looking for the first time for a reason.

>> No.2998532

Maybe Ai-chink grad?

Exchanges go to the new china musume
Ai-chan becomes a drama star or just a
wallflower like nacchi.

>> No.2998555

>>2998520
>Gaki is real thin and good looking for the first time for a reason.
I had the same thought process with that move, its as if she is preparing for post Musume solo career/appearances/etc..

>> No.2998635

>>2998520
Or maybe for a photobook? Maasa slimmed down too for apparently no reason then it was announced that she had a photobook coming out.

>> No.2998786

>>2998451
>I think the prolonged Yossie and Miki phase may have really done a number on the current lineup.
Perhaps, but I don't really feel that any of the current girls have what it takes to be front and center, and it only would've been exposed earlier if Yossie and Miki had left before they did. But as you mentioned, Koha and Sayu manged to adapt very quickly in comparison to say, Ai or Gaki, who haven't grown all that much over the years. It's just too bad Sayu and Koha are severely hampered in other (unfixable) areas.

And I was thinking, come audition time (because I know he won't do the right thing and retire the name) Tsunku seriously needs to rethink his selection process, maybe have them run some skits or something in addition to singing, just to make sure he's not gonna get a dud like Aika, again.

>I'm not hating on her but its like the first born who gets all the toys
I chuckled. Never heard it put like that before.
And anything less than love for Maki is hate in my book.

>> No.2998951

Meh...I don't expect any graduations to occur until Morning Musume gets a new member/members. They really can't afford to lose Ai or Risa right now. They'll need to bring in a Maki-esque girl (not a fake "miracle girl" like Koharu) before that happens.

Personally, I know plenty of people thought graduations were on the horizon in 2008. Here we are in July 2009 and nothing has happened. I think it'll stay that way for at least another year.

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>>2998951
>They'll need to bring in a Maki-esque girl (not a fake "miracle girl" like Koharu) before that happens.
Yea, Tsunku would need to pull out the fireworks if there were a double graduation, unfortunately I have a feeling anything dramatic may involve a folding of the kids groups and integrating some of them into my Musume. (just a theory)
>just to make sure he's not gonna get a dud like Aika, again
Aika's not a dud, she just got drowned out by Koharu and the Pandas, I think her real strengths are soon to be demonstrated.
>And anything less than love for Maki is hate in my book
There are plenty of fans who draw the line between Ayaya, Abe, and Maki. But I'm only pointing out that I disliked her old personality. Nowadays she seems much more relaxed, an un-natural drug induced relaxed but more easy going.
>Here we are in July 2009 and nothing has happened. I think it'll stay that way for at least another year.
If he doesn't do this the right way it very well could spell the end of Musume. Unless Tsunku continues to wish to run the band on a shoe string than the usual long term outlook for his selection will have to be adjusted to short term vision.

>> No.2999161

>>2998520
She has a boyfriend.

>> No.2999517

Ai-chan has someone for sure. Her dancing got sexier, when she does sexy moves she tends to look in a direction like she's looking at someone and sometimes acts embarrassed.

Sayu still acts like she's 14 and I doubt she'd had any
however recently shes been joking about naughty things. Sanma probably introduced her to someone..

Eri? For sure. She has gotten more sexy/naughty.

Koharu and Aika need not be mentioned.

The two chinks used to dress like sluts before MM so they've probably done it all.

Reina. She could probably write an anatomy book.

>> No.2999559

>>2999517
Why hello theeeere, Big Al'
We don't care if you accuse them of being underage anymore.
That's jurassic news.

>> No.2999594

>>2999559

Please be coherent.

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>>2999517
Best analysis of 2009.

>>2998786
>And anything less than love for Maki is hate in my book.
Anon here knows what's up.

>> No.2999807

>>2999594
Please learn sarcasm. :3

>> No.2999843

>>2999807

I'll get right on it

>> No.2999913

>>2999517
virgin.

>> No.3000321

Jesus bump for get bullshit

>> No.3000378

>>2999753
Laziest Maki-fag post this year.
>>2999517
Do you think Musume lives entirely in a bubble? Don't you think that they are influenced by Western dance styles at all lately, as for the Ai-chan and Gaki-san teasing during their dance, probably mostly due to the image Plat 9 was shooting for.

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Wow, I leave for one day, and this is what I come back to? Looks like I missed all the fun...

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>>3000378
>Laziest Maki-fag post this year.
Haha, cut me some slack, my left lung is about to collapse and I'm in too much pain to actually write something worth a fuck.

>>3000468
Yeah, thread quality increased by 100% since some oldfags returned. Let's hope they stay this time.

>> No.3000546

>>3000468
>Wow, I leave for one day, and this is what I come back to?
Well make up for it tonighht
>>3000512
>my left lung is about to collapse and I'm in too much pain to actually write something worth a fuck.
Wat happened? You alright? Getting in street fights again?
>Yeah, thread quality increased by 100% since some oldfags returned.
lol, we'll see about that.

>> No.3000555

>>3000512
Yeah, I'm hoping for some real discussion-filled threads.

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>>3000546
Cought some of that AX pneumonia over the Internet I think. But since I'm such a badass it should gone soon enough. Not being able to breathe like a normal person is kinda wack however. Shit hurts.

>lol, we'll see about that.
Hey if these last threads are any indication of what's to come then things are looking up. I'm pretty bored of motherfuckers using these threads are their Twitter pages and for driving the DAT ASS meme further into the goddamn ground.
Maybe that's just me.

>> No.3000628

morning musume is watching yaguchi racing on a tricycle right now

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and they sing fucking nanchatte renai to cheer for her wtf

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>>3000621
>Cought some of that AX pneumonia over the Internet
I believe you were also the one who said the Jab troll was awesome. Well hope you get better soon.
>Hey if these last threads are any indication of what's to come then things are looking up.
I'll give ya the pass for being sick but I didn't recall see you pop up during all that.
I was wondering that perhaps that was a mm-bbs raid.
Also
Well here's to all who are still around tonight, I'm hoping to see videos from >>3000645
and their earlier appearance

>> No.3000738

>>3000708
Eh, it's nothing. I'm gonna go have a smoke just to show my lung who's the boss around here.
I was there for the beginning, reason why I missed most of it is time zones, plain and simple.
It's what? 21:44 4chan clock time? It's almost morning over here. It's pretty bad but what are ya gonna do? It's still fun waking up and F5ing the thread to see that dudes have been up all night posting though.

>> No.3000759

>>3000621
>Maybe that's just me.
Nah, I feel the same way. Things are definitely looking up for once...

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>>3000759
Good to hear.

Also: when the hell did this go down? Gocchin cooking and playing some whacked out boardgame with Melon Kinenbi, how did I miss this one? Anyone got a source?

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FNS 26hour TV 09/07/26

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>>3000763
Whats with the arrow?
>>3000807
Well its clearly new, looks good, do want as well. Looks H!P-esque


Also
Look at dem leggems

>> No.3000850

>>3000831
Awesome, must get this as well.
Who else thinks those outfits look amazing in the bright day, a real motivator for those racers.

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Mikitty looking into your soul

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Found it

Morning Musume - Nanchatte Renai (Live@26h) モーニング娘。 なんちゃって恋愛
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXuKbhmC5ew

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>>3000975
Thank you.

>> No.3001017

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXuKbhmC5ew

tsunku >

>> No.3001087

>>3001016
Where my Bikini night photos maki fag?

>> No.3001124

>>3000807
Well it's now out there on the hello online tracker.

High-King's song is uninteresting and kind of a letdown after their above-average single. There's no reason to not just listen to the original "Diamonds".

I love what was done with the voices in the C-ute/Mano song. Maybe all this time I have not really been in love with Mano herself, I've clearly just been in love with KAN (seriously, how can you not love his face in the video?)

In Pucchi V's song, I don't really know which of the two voices is really annoying to me since I really don't know my C-ute girls (and don't suggest it's Erina's!). I never really cared for Kome Kome Club, so I guess I'd rather listen to this one, but that's no endorsement.

Ai and Reina's solos are strong covers that I think were well chosen for the two girls, but by the time the ZYX-a song starts, I'm totally sick of ballads. Thank god, Zoku Biyuuden's ONLY YOU comes in to save the day with the rock. Linlin's song is another well-chosen solo for the singer. I think I may even like it more than the original, but I'm not really nostalgically familiar with it at all as I am with some other songs. Kanpaku Sengen: well, um, I guess I like it. There's a cute naivete to it. But I confess, I had to listen a second time to come to that inconclusive conclusion.

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>>3001087
Why you stealing my questions, bro? Anyway, they should pop up soon. If there are any good pics. Bastards have been slacking on the photo front this tour.

Either way, I'm going to bed. Have some awesome wota dreams, wotas.

>> No.3001137

>>3001124
I agree. I have some mixed feelings about this release:

1. Diamond - The vocals are good, even from Saki and Maimi, neither of whom I care for usually. However, the song is mediocre and just doesn't fit their image. After the outstanding C/C and Kioku no Meiro, I was hoping for more of a mature sound, maybe with some sort of R&B or rap flair to it. This song is cute, but it totally sounds like it should be the B-side to Sakura Chirari or something. Not really what I was thinking would come from this group. Pass.

2. Ai no Katsu - The combo of C-ute and Mano wasn't a pairing I expected to like, but the song is actually pretty good. I like a lot of the group vocal songs from H!P, like All for One & One for All, Dekkai uchuu ni Ai ga Aru, etc, and this one fits that bill. Some weak vocal points in the solo lines (very strained), but somehow I still really like the song. It's catchy and overall has a nice sound to it.

3. YES-YES-YES - Although I am one of the people very disappointed with Aa! not having Reina in it, this turned out nice. I love the vocals, and the song is mature without being too boring. Not as catchy as C-ute & Mano's number, but it's still decent.

4. Tentouchuu no Samba - This is the PERFECT song for new Mini Moni. I love it. Yes, I absolutely love it. I know I said I didn't think I would like new Mini Moni because I don't like Linlin's voice despite it being on key, but actually, I don't mind her in this. And it has KANON. Holy crap does she sound like Aibon, just brings the Mini Moni feel to the new line up. Um, this might be my favorite on the album, actually.... ._.

5. Kimi ga iru dake de - I don't know why this is Petit Moni V, since it doesn't have their sound, their style, nothing about this screams Petit Moni. Some of these, especially this one, feel like Tsunku just used the group name for the sake of using it. Overall, it's not horrible, but not something I'll be putting on my playlist.

>> No.3001172

>>3001137
6. Heya to Y Shirts to Watashi - I feel like Reina's solo time is always cursed, she has one of my favorite voices in H!P, but every time she gets something of her own to sing, it bores me! On Best Shot we had Memory Seishun no Hikari (bleeeehhhh), then on the Fuyu Fuyu mini album she had Kirakira fuyu no Shiny G, which I wanted to like because of the vocals, but the song was just not catchy to me. Then we get this one, which is kinda pretty, but ultimately bores me to tears despite Reina being the singer. Nooooooooooo.....

7. Mamotte Agetai - I love the combo of Risa and Eri, their voices are so different from each other, but they blend beautifully in this song. Eri's "mamotte agetai... ooooh" is probably the nicest I've heard her voice sound! Gorgeous. But on the whole, I'm not too big on the song - I just wish it were more catchy and upbeat of a tune. I guess I just feel most of the songs on this album are mediocre, they sound nice and all, but don't stick with me and aren't something that, if it came up on a playlist, that I would actually leave on and listen to. I'd just hit next and rock out to Nanchatte Ren'ai.

8. Akizakura (or is it Cosmos?) - Wow, Takahashi sounds so beautiful in her deeper register, we don't get to hear her this deep in most Momusu stuff. It's a beautiful display of her voice. The song is one of the prettier ones on the album, but ultimately a ballad needs to be something really special to stay with me. Because of the refrain, this song doesn't quite make it for me, at least not yet. Maybe a few more listens will make it grow on me - I do love the deep verses quite a bit.

9. Mirai Yosouzi II - Suffering from the same thing as the Petit Moni song - this is Zyx? The song's vocals are all in unison, which I liked the feel of in Ai no Katsu, but this one is not interesting in the least. One of my least favorites. I'm getting sleepy just thinking about it.

>> No.3001192

>>3001124
>Well it's now out there on the hello online tracker.
What? Where? Cough up a link please.

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>>3001124
>Well it's now out there on the hello online tracker.
I dont see no Melon & Maki on the tracker, what you talking about.
>>3001137
>>3001172
From what I've heard which is really limited, the Tanpopo & Reina's solo song I've liked it. You're in depth reviews makes me atleast want to give the whole thing a spin.

Also
I'll just blast through this, there is no way I'll cry.

>> No.3001226

>>3001137
I found the album pretty unmemorable and mediocre. It suffers from some bad songs choices for the particular members that were in the groups, and too many of the tracks were completely forgettable. There were a few standouts, like Only You, Tentouchuu no Samba, and Ai no Katsu, but I was hoping for better. I think they chose too many ballads, and did not change up the arrangements of the songs enough to try to emulate the original groups these were supposed to be sequels of. I will put a few of these on my playlist, and the rest... I will probably forget what they even sounded like by next week.

>> No.3001250

>>3001219
I like this album so much more than COVER YU that it's not even funny.

In general, I don't think there was much intention to make the songs sound like a specific sub unit, they just wanted to make the girls sound decent, if it happened, then probably by chance, except Mini Moni.

The intro of DIAMONDS sounds like something out of NiGHTS into Dreams. lol.png Also, it's more or less the style of Pucchi Moni's album track Makenai Maketakunai (Only with Nao Tanaka's signature R&B sound, without being too HARD) I really like this one, but when I listen to it, I don't really notice anyone specific in it. That's not really a bad thing, but it's strange to have the thought "Oh yeah, I'm listening to the HIGH KING girls"

Unison for Mirai Yosouzu II was a good call. I'd rather have a consistent sound than random girls butchering something so great. We can hear real ZYX when they get new songs. Oh, I wonder if they will do a new version of each group's debut single as a c/w of these new releases.

>> No.3001286

Guys. Wanna review an AKB48 album together?

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Uh oh..
Also
I smell copy and paste

>> No.3001370

>>3001286
idontthinksotim.jpg

>> No.3001428

Auto Sageru
knock off the shenanigans

>> No.3001459

Next thread
>>3001444
Regular fags and newfriends welcome

>> No.3001998

what about bitter old momu fags?

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