/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>29469046
That's ABS actually, not PLA.
https://twitter.com/nukonuko0083/status/1328483082886815744

Bros how do I stop wanting to breed kigus?

>>29476426
Become a kigu yourself and get bred

>>29476426
By finding out it's a girl inside

>>29477104
>Become a kigu
Maybe
>get bred
No, I am the one breeding!
>>29479094
Ewwww

>>29477104
I have been thinking of becoming a kigu as of late.

Been wondering if these DAME generics are a good starter option.

What is with this trend I've seen from a few Western kigs of pretending to be a different person inside the kig when it's blatantly obvious it's not?

268 days.

>>29483037
You sound new.

>>29483037
What is with this trend I've seen of posting in the kigurumi thread and not posting pictures of the subject material?

>>29480428
I've heard good things and they're pretty qt imo

>>29485058
Wonder where she is now, rotting away in a storage, stuck under a pile of trash, or became a play toy for some fetish fuck.

>>29485058
>>29498525
The company that was behind her went bankrupt this month, so it's doubtful we will see her again.
https://twitter.com/tenjin_pocket/status/1326846255864049666

>>29485058
>>29498525
Her maker has her atm.
https://twitter.com/UfJWk9KIpLKetkY/status/1280153493773283328

>>29502677
Wow, thank you for sharing. This slipped past me somehow.

>>29486588
What is with this trend with everyone in here being a piece of shit

>>29498525
>Imagine all the abandoned kigus collecting dust in a storage room somewhere

>>29509152
>that face
god I wish that were me

>>29509152
Source for that picture? Videos and images of that kigu are so fucking rare.

>>29509152
>A janitor have better chance at cumming on cute kigu face than you.

>>29511851
facebook com/OktoberfestJapan/photos/330587243749965/

Now this is the most precious thing ever...

https://twitter.com/i_l_u_c_a_mikan/status/1330046815039852544

>>29505369
Only issue is that the company (Tenjin Pocket) that commissioned her went bankrupt this month.

>>29526266
If they went bankrupt, do they still have the right to her character?

https://twitter.com/kiguphone/status/1330128278376603656
When you wanna get hyped for a new kig, but you realized it's the guy with the worst padding on earth.

>>29526397
Depends whether they got a copyright on trademark on her, because they run for a certain amount of years before the first renewal.

>>29526523
Guy would look much better going with minimal pads or nude.

>>29520655
This is too wholesome
It hurts

>>29517319
not the first anon but thank you for the source!

>>29511851
Is there more than 1 video of her?
I could never find more than a blurry zoomed in shot.

C U T E
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>>29538669

looks like it's made by sigma

https://mobile.twitter.com/sigma93996951/status/274323966850641920

>>29509152
>Imagine all the abandoned kigus collecting dust in a storage room somewhere
Isn't that just Loopy/Jenny/Morrigan/Azami/Storage-chan though?

>>29526523
That chin tho

>>29539918
Kiguphone has distinct tastes.
That's the nicest way I think I could put it.

>>29539918
I used to worry about the health of those Chinese skeletons, but this seems more troublesome, somehow. How much does that all weigh? Is the poor fellow's back going to be ok?

>>29509152
>>29517319
>>29538669
>>29538700
>>29539255
It's annoying how I can't find a single video of her wearing her blue dirndl. Not only that, all the videos she's in are blurry, she's mostly out of frame, she rarely faces the camera and someone is always in the way. Disappointing.

>>29552157
She never appeared again after that fes either, what a waste of a good kigu.

>>29480428
>>29489009
Any more opinions on these?

>>29551841
I kinda want to be peed on now.

>>29552987
It's the best you can't get if you don't want to deal with agents.

>>29556848
*can

>>29552663
The person wearing her did a good job and acted cute. I'd pay good money for the mask and costume.

>>29558443
Who is this?

>>29557278
Normally I’d assume it was a girl since she’s an official kig. But from what I saw she’s really tall so I’m not sure.

>>29561550
I'm certain that official female mascots are all played by women. Not only that, her posture, movement and the fact that her hadatai is loose around the arms heavily implies she's a woman.

>>29539918
>>29539943
when you tastes are so weird than even other anime head enthusiasts find it strange, you are doing something really good or really bad

>>29562236
In that case I guess the actress is a foreigner, I doubt japanese woman could be that tall.

>>29566105
It might be possible that she's a member of the German band that performs at these events, or the organizer happened to find a taller than average Japanese woman to fit the image of a Bavarian women. Besides, it's not like whoever can afford to rent the Tokyo dome twice has to settle for a male performer.
How does one write her name in English anyways? Okt/Okto/Octo-chan? Any Germanons here?

>>29568149
Scratch that about her being a potential foreigner. She's not that much taller than an average Japanese woman, she's wearing heels and the mask adds extra height.

>>29571597
She's really not that tall.

>>29562236
>>29571597
I guess it’s these guys that are really short.

>>29568149
>How does one write her name in English anyways? Okt/Okto/Octo-chan? Any Germanons here?
>> english
>> germanons

It's Oktoberfest as in October and -fest for festival or fair. Okto-chan, I guess?

>>29572923
I wouldn't mind a towering Okto-chan looming over me.

>>29573203
We are speaking in English, are we not? Okto-chan it is then.

>>29573491
It’s pretty rare to see an official kig with decent looking cleavage.

>>29574294
Makes you wonder where the event organizers got the hadatai made.

>>29539255
Sigma made several official kigs for different projects. They also made the official mascot for Nitengo TV, who also disappeared after it got shut down.

>>29575275
At least Twin Angel is still alive.

I really dislike this twitter fleet thing. It disappeared after a day, the only way to see it is following their account or going to their profile, and it lags like hell.

>>29575948
I really wish the kigurumi community would stop using twitter, I don't want to sift through a sea of shit all the time just to see cute kigus.

>>29576201
Sadly, as bad as twitter is, it's still better than the alternatives. Pretty much all other sites are strict toward suggestive contents, all western sites are filled with cancer, while the japanese ones are extremely dead.
I just wish we could go back to the fc2 days, it was better in every ways.

>>29577172
Absolutely. Going through blogs was much easier than using twitter's shit UI. I'll gladly go to a geocities site over twitter every time.

>>29576201
>I really wish the kigurumi community would stop using twitter
But kigu political rants are especially ~brave and inspirational~

>>29578006
Yeah I really into what politics the kigus are into, pointless food pictures, gatchashit and unfunny memes. Fortunately, most eastern kigus don't talk about politics on social media or I don't understand enough of their language to see their opinions on political shit.

>>29578318
Sources? I need more of that Bridget.

>>29578318
That's just what happens when people are too lazy to make multiple accounts, the same issue also existed in the blog days, just that people would post less in general.

>>29578363
This used to be the link, but the site is dead: http://boylikeagirl.blog100.fc2.com/

>>29578713
If I were a successful kigu and had a large following, I wouldn't clog up my follower's feeds with stuff they aren't interested in. Is anybody interested in what a kigu had for dinner?

How many of these are dudes?

>>29579540
That's just a tired old meme. The truth is that all kigus are degenerate fujoshi who want to spread the idea that stinky ojisan are behind the cute anime mask.

>>29578725
Damn... I should have archived those blogs when they were still around. Most of them are gone now.

>>29580125
Some of the old blogs are miraculously still up, but some of the giants like dollhouse and kigurumi kingdom have been dead for a while.

>>29579695
Noooooooo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE IDEA OF SLUTTY OJISANS IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME FROM GOING INSANE

Found these old videos on YouTube. It's from a Japanese tv show in the mid-2000s *I remember reading a comment saying it was a prank show but I'm not sure. I don't understand Japanese*. Anyway, these guys encounter kigus at a theme park and play with them before interviewing the actors behind the masks. I pretty sure three of them are guys. I want someone to translate what they are saying during the interview part.

This is some classic shit. The good old days...
(Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpWlUW9g_-w

(Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Apf6b08U8

>>29581066
So many kigu lost with the passage of time.

I don't care who's inside, I want a kigu girlfriend...

>>29581281
Face it anon, you're never going to make friends with another kig who you can have intimate times with, and you'll always be alone.

>>29581639
>You will never get to experience this

>>29558831
https://twitter.com/asterisk_rina35/status/1330145436263395330?s=19

>>29578929
Kigu is also a social hobby for others. Myself included. Sometimes I may be interested in what my kigu friends are eating.

Though there are plenty of eastern and western kigus I follow back to be nice but have them muted cause as a person they’re uninteresting.

>>29581281
>>29581639
>>29581810
Thanks, I wasn't feeling suicidal today

>>29581810
I did experience this. Except we were both in kig.
It was nice.

>>29583763
BOOBA

>>29580125
You can still access some old blogs via the wayback machine. My method is going to animegao.com then copying the links and punching them into the wayback machine. Some times it works and other times I just get broken jpeg icons.

>>29581810
>>29583830
It ain't gay if there's a kig involved.

>>29578929
It's why I stopped following Storage-chan. I didn't really care about their ""rl" escapades when they barely post any kigu.

Like, warframe screenshots, food pics and posting their hunt for a new car is just very yawn.

Not that they're very good or friendly anyway if you're not showering him in complements or flirting.

It’s hard to find a convincing loli kigu these days.

>>29580307
it would be fun to rob a bank in these suits

tfw baidaoshan disappeared for a half year and came back as transwoman

Nyalice on twitter passed.

>>29613633
F

>Athena made a Fantia
Pretty much all taiwan kigs have fantia at this point. What’s about them that makes them such attention whore.

Which kigu was it that made that comic where a kigu went on an overnight road trip with a locked mask?

Have you guys seen that lockable Kigurumi? Some guy affixed a lock to the back of the head so he'd be forced to wear one.

>>29615532
Money for more kig stuff.

>>29613633
>Japan is known for huge number of suicides
Oof, RIP.

>>29615532
Gear is expensive.

>>29615991
>>29616901
Stuff they were going to buy regardless since it's a fetish to them. Simps gonna simp.

>>29616596
> Currently fighting illness and undergoing medical treatment
from twitter bio

>>29617242
Sad, they had and made very cute suits.

>>29617242
>Didn't get the joke

>>29617399
It's not okay to joke about.

>>29618524
In case you didn't fully get it, here's a hint: Aside from Japan, what other group is known for their massive number of suicides?

Thread's been dead for the past few weeks. Did everybody die from the coof or something?

>>29619745
Coruposting has been kept at minimum

>>29619745

Saying for myself, nothing has peaked my interest in the past couple months.

>>29621869

This desu.

>>29621910
>>29621948
Post more cute kigu pictures of yourself then, you drongo bellend.

>>29622585

Almost fit, waiting on some things.

>>29617242
I hope you know that depression is an illness that you also get medical treatment for, and the poster who announced his dead said he died because of depression anyways.

>>29619745
Catching the die sounds good sometimes

>>29619745

>>29625934
Feels man.

>>29625934
Remember good kigu

https://twitter.com/cb839/status/1330820551644835840
Sneaky kigu art.

How are the rest of you /kcs/ anons dealing with the fact that international air travel and kigurumi events have been cancelled forever?

>>29656763
It's the worst.
Trying to meet with people for a while and every second week fucking dumbass countries decide to change the rules to "no you can't"

>>29659819
>What's that, you never got to attend an event or offline meeting? Too bad, all gatherings are now illegal and you aren't allowed to travel overseas anymore!
Fuck this gay world.

>>29656763
Poorly. I wanted to try to travel for cons this year and actually meet other kigs.

>>29656763
Does wearing a kig count as a valid facemask in places where they are mandatory?

>>29648599
Is that latex? Are these designed in a way that you can vacuum out the air for the ultimate feeling of encasement? Like a true second skin experience?

>>29671692
>Is that latex?
Sure looks like it
> Are these designed in a way that you can vacuum out the air for the ultimate feeling of encasement?
No. It's just made to measure to get pretty close to your body. You want something like a vacbed for that

>>29671824
Despite tight fit latex being nothing new. Somehow chinese kigs are the only one to ever get it right. Pretty much everyone else have this loose and baggy look.

>>29656763
I just bought some plane tickets and hope that shit isn't forbidden when I fly
At least airline offers free cancellation

https://twitter.com/HORIPAD2/status/1331410151027339270
I want to just die in there

>>29687580
>tfw no busty kigu gf

Any good loli kigus?

Sometimes I wonder how many kigs that get pissed about their videos being stolen and shared on pornhub pirate anime or other porn. Or perhaps the experience turned them into anti-pirates.

>>29690618
The worst part about stealing videos is that every porn site is filled with shirty quality re-uploads you have to sift through.

>people have videos in their profiles so they get their friend requests accepted
Who even accepts friend requests from collector accounts when he's uploading OC?

>>29690618
I wish I produced porn worth stealing to be honest.

>>29690618
Not defending piracy or stealing videos, but people should realize once you upload something onto the internet it's very difficult to take it down. This is why you should only share your smut with your close circle of IRL friends. If you start sharing it to gain clout on social media you have nobody to blame but yourself when some opportunist grabs it and uploads it somewhere else.

>>29585220
I tried that and it worked like 10% of the time. Honestly it makes me even more depressing looking at all the little thumbnail.
I just hope some anon could post their archive of the old blogs.

>>29690618
>>29693717

This very much.
It baffles me when I see people overreact to their content being stolen. Like "oh no more videos on Twitter" or "They have to be censored now."
So the result is one pirate ruins it for everyone else.

I don't think most have truly thought out the implications of posting themselves in such a lewd manner too.

>>29672040
Precision Japanese makers ain't got shit on chink resourcefulness to be perfectly honest.

>>29708444
TokalCMS could use some work modelling the faces of their masks. They still look kinda derpy.

>>29708650
Agreed, the eyes don't match the lips.

What's the discord looking like these days? Can't remember the last time I've been there.

>>29714049
This angle and focal length is much more flattering than >>29708444. Maybe TokalCMS masks aren't as bad as I first thought.

>>29714474

Makes sense.
Every mask/shell will have bad and good angles really.
Good makers/shells should minimize the no. of bad angles and good performers should capitalize on the good angles their kig has.

>>29712927

I've never really liked Gurgle or those MSM shells personally. That :| expression just gives me the "I'm bored" vibe.

>>29714601
yeah same, they're mediocre at best even if they are very affordable

>>29714601
Agreed, shape's kinda screwed too and looks like you need a ton of work to make it mildly presentable.

>>29720115
You may not like it, but this is what peak kigu looks like.

>>29714601
>>29715130
Really depends how much a person invests in the mask honestly, they also do customs but people just cheapen out on it and go for the default instead.

>>29720115
youtube.com/watch?v=OOGTd1vejKw

>>29720796
You're right, I do not like it one bit.

Hello anons
I come to you all to reveal just how desperate I am
For some reason today I felt like looking for any Nintendo related kigs since I consider them to be rare and I stumbled upon this picture with a gardevoir kig from 2015
if anyone could tell me who the performer was and if they still have any form of social media precense today I'd greatly appreciate it

http://www.kigurumieurope.synology.me/photo/_data/i/galleries/Public/IMG_3689-me.JPG

>>29730427
She's still active but exclusively on FB @ Natasha Kigs.

>>29715130
>shape's kinda screwed too
That's really just the angle, most masks look like that from a low viewpoint.

>>29747652
rip(ped)

>>29615931
Do you mean that korean guy on twitter?

>>29756059

It was about some guy getting locked into kig and then they both went on a trip to a pretty far location by car, then staying in a hotel room still in kig because the photographer intentionally left the key back home, and only allowed back out once they're both back home the next day.

Got a link if you recognise which comic this is?

>>29757290
>It was about some guy getting locked into kig and then they both went on a trip to a pretty far location by car, then staying in a hotel room still in kig because the photographer intentionally left the key back home, and only allowed back out once they're both back home the next day.
Sounds hot, but please don't do this in real life. Always have a backup key since anything can happen.

>>29757290
>>29759325
It was this
https://twitter.com/KigurumiVillain/status/1243088560183332867

This is the expression of someone that won at life

>>29762318
I'd say that the one chubby Taiwanese photographer who got to hang out with a room-full of kigus is the true winner of life.

>>29762318
source?

>>29747652
Source? Is there any pics of it being worn?

>>29767536
Is Ko_omoide @ Twitter.

>>29766545
https://twitter.com/egorime223355/status/1331860537760763905?s=19

Anyone getting new outfits today as part of the black friday sales?

I want to bride carry Mana chan

>>29812837
I want a kig that's significantly taller than me to manhandle my body, then hold me reassuringly with their strong arms.

>>29816635
Mommy bisko might be right on your alley

>>29818127
There's no chance we'll ever meet in person but just in case, do they like to play rough, like pinning people down against their will? Can they lift a 130lb man with one arm?

>>29820286
As someone that is 183cm, its nice not only seeing small kigs. Now i just need to lose some weight before I can go into kigu

>>29579695
This one is definitely a dude.

>>29847021
I don't believe it

>>29842996
What's up with the undersuit?
Keeping sweat away from the hada?
isn't it just warmer so more sweat?

>>29863998
Part of the padding I guess, could help making their arms look more feminine.

>>29864099
I've seen guys wearing things that look like gymnastic leotards with sleeves under their hadatai. Think it might cover up veins on their arms.

please post more cow tidy kigu

>>29866553

>>29820286
yes and yes i can and i will manhandle tiny boys

I wanna marry kigu!

>>29868997
I want to get manhandled by mommy bisko!

>>29868997
I'm 5ft4 ><

>>29479094
>>29480047
>>29477104
dilate

>>29870373
Where you think you are

>>29870024
i will tower over you

Are there any good places to sell a used mask? I have 1 that doesn’t fit anymore and need it off me.

>>29871509
Oh my

*erection intensifies*

>>29877317

Post on the discord or in the FB market group

>>29900687
is this who i think it is

>>29868997
>>29871509
I'm terrified, but curious.

>>29905353
tfw no manlets at my every beck and call

>>29908244
We can't get everything we want, now can we?

"Whats wrong? Isn't this what you wanted?"
https://twitter.com/AmaneNanoca0605/status/1332596663488184321?s=09

>>29911517
Did they really get married? If so, they better have done it in kig.

>>29908244
man, I wish I was short now

>>29908244
I am 166cm tall can I be part of mommy bisko manlet harem?

>>29915205
sure anon

>>29911517
I want to get cuddled by a wedding dress kigu.

>>29918418
I'm 190cm. I feel like that's a little above what's considered a manlet right?

>>29918727
it is but i see no reason to exclude you

>>29919548
yesss

This is the perfect kig

>>29902395
who do you think it is?

Weird news, but on a new callmecarson video he an old kig video. And [correctly if I may add] said they were men. So I think we’re gonna get some incoming newbies

>>29929303
Literally who

>>29937819
Normalfag garbage. You can ignore it.

>>29921403
How the fuck do people get their hadatai so smooth and wrinkle-free? Photoshop magic?

>>29944539
It's like that when it's tailored a little too small.

https://twitter.com/shinanoyorikura/status/1333350114597826560?s=21

>>29921403
Twink needs a little more padding.

>>29960401
>Plush doll kigurumi
Well that's a first. Think it would look better with resin eyes rather than fabric ones. Anybody agree?

>>29921922
mercy from overwatch, duh

Now this really is something

>>29960401
Now there's two of them!

https://twitter.com/zhongweitongzhi/status/1333310102036615168

One Chinese kig decided to make a tweet commenting on the increasingly pornographic nature of kig.

Replies are pretty heated as well.
Storm clouds are brewing over the kig landscape.

>>29974060
I've said for years that overseas kigs also have people who want/don't want lewd and it isn't just a western thing.

>>29974060
>kig that makes porn complains about other kigs making porn
sounds like someone's just salty of competition

>>29971089
More than two, the og one puts some up for sale on an almost weekly basis.

>>29974060
I like the part where they blame Natsuki for kig turning into a sausage fest, like if it was a new thing.

>>29974060
Pornographic as in all the new payed content or lewd stuff in general?

>>29974858
They never made porn though? Unless I'm missing something here.
Either way their TL isn't filled with lewds like many kigs nowadays.

>>29975905
>>29976763
Both really. I hope I'm not the only one noticing that many kigs' main twitter accts are getting more and more lewd nowadays.
The ura or lewd account has no purpose in 2020. Funny how lewds used to be more 'secretive' or for sharing with other kigs, now its just something to be shared to the masses.

Not necessarily. Trouble is it is hard to be in kig and not have lewd content bleed into your feeds. It can be really frustrating when cosplay friends are interested in kig, but are quickly turned off by the flood of lewd content and demanding fans.

It's not always about the popularity, and it is hard to cater ones feed in this hobby. Twitter will share what other's have liked, not just reshares.

Kind of the shame that kig has standardized to Twitter, as the platform wasn't really meant to be a photo sharing site. Don't follow the Chinese Kig scene, not sure if they are largely on Twitter as well.

>>29974060
Isn’t this kinda like how fursuiting used to be stigmatized as an exclusively fetish thing?

>>29980891

Yep, and I'm fearing it'll happen to kig as well.

>>29974858
Not necessarily. Trouble is it is hard to be in kig and not have lewd content bleed into your feeds. It can be really frustrating when cosplay friends are interested in kig, but are quickly turned off by the flood of lewd content and demanding fans.

It's not always about the popularity, and it is hard to cater ones feed in this hobby. Twitter will share what other's have liked, not just reshares.

Kind of the shame that kig has standardized to Twitter, as the platform wasn't really meant to be a photo sharing site. Don't follow the Chinese Kig scene, not sure if they are largely on Twitter as well.

>>29980891
Yep, I'm fearing it'll happen to kig as well.

>>29981178
This so much. It might be a real issue soon about getting normal cosplay friends or people interested in kig, since the first thing one can see on kig twitter is just lewds.

>>29981178
This wouldn't be a problem if we stuck to blogs. Using blogs or a similar close-knit platform means you put in the bare minimum amount of effort necessary to keep your lewd content separate just by operating it.

Using social media, you can inflict annoying pictures of food on people without consequence to yourself or others because you care more about upvotes than you do about the quality of your content. You're not shaping the kig community, Jack and Zuck does.

Social media should be exploited for better content, not the other way around.

Can we have more Mommy Bisko porn please?

>>29984439
Way to invalidate the last chunk of this thread

>>29974060

It’s kinda funny when I called out this months ago people thought I was being moralist or some shit.

I honestly can’t give a rats ass about what people say kig is, what concerns me is the catfighting that this competition for attention creates.

>>29985316
>invalidate
He validated it though, that lots of kig fan only care about porn. Which affects how other people see it and the kigs as well.

Sex is overrated
I just want to see kigus being cute

Kig is inherently lewd. Fursuits are different because most people don't think anthropomorphic animals are sexy, but everyone knows anime girls are sexy.

tired: kigu lewds put people off and inhibit growing the hobby

wired: kigu lewds keep the normies out and that's a good thing

>>29998023
It's not about how sexy they are, it's about how the lewd contents have become more and more prevalent recently. It's not like people complain about it are puritans hating any sight of lewdness.
For example, obviously there's tons of people who got turned on by anime girls. But if an entire season has nothing but ecchi anime, many of them would get really upset.

>>29998209

>wired: kigu lewds keep the normies out and that's a good thing

Never thought about like that. That's good. I've always seen kig as a fetish but have always appreciated the public cosplay element of it. Guess it sucks for people that only want the cosplay element.

Mizu's new kig is pretty cute.

Why would someone be turned off of doing kigurumi because some people do lewds, but not be turned off of cosplay in general by the millions of instagram thots doing slutty cosplay versions of everything?

>>29980636
>They never made porn though?
You sound new.

>>29981178
>It can be really frustrating when cosplay friends are interested in kig, but are quickly turned off by the flood of lewd content and demanding fans.
But
>are quickly turned off by the flood of lewd content and demanding fans.
is exactly how cosplay sites are nowadays too and that in an even worse way than kig as the later rarely is actual porn compared to nowadays cosplay.

>>29981629
>Yep, I'm fearing it'll happen to kig as well.
Kig is already seen as a fetish thing to most normalslime regardless. It is literally (usually always) crossdressing to begin with before you even consider the mask.

>>29981178
>Don't follow the Chinese Kig scene, not sure if they are largely on Twitter as well.
Western social media is banned in China and most people don't bother with a VPN, everyone is on Weibo.

>>29996737
I’d be lying if I said that kigurumi wasn’t a fetish of mine but honestly at this point all I want is a hug from a kig

>>29998209
Gatekeeping much?

>>30006737
But on Instagram, you choose who you follow and Zuck judges you when you flip over to discover. You still determine your own experience. Kig is mainly discord and Twitter in the west and if you downt want lewd you either don’t exist online, or you deal with the smut wave.

Back to the general cosplayers being turned off by lewd, kig seems to have a large fetish faction (that’s fine really), but it’s hard to keep it out of your feed if you only care about cute waifus and husbandos doing cute things.

Personally, I just scroll by the content I don’t like. What really turns casually interested cosplayers dabbling in kig off, is the random creepy dms. This last point is why most kigs ignore non kig dms, ands it’s a real shame, but most of us don’t want to play creep Russian roulette in our dm box.

I just want to marry a cute kig bros

>>30021266
Gatekeeping is a necessary evil to prevent a hobby/community from turning to shit.

>>30025138
This sounds like a half baked worry. Going to shit from what position? And moreover more people in kig means more talent and potentially more makers. Also many complain about no kigs living nearby. Lastly, one is under no obligation to associate its every kig, and having more around will allow people to find others who are into this for similar reasons or goals.

>>30017483
>>30023748
Same
Get me a cute kig to marry

>2020
>people not knowing they can just turn Twitter's lewd filter on

>>30029877
Seems to rely on tweeters marking things as sensitive. And if they are using machine learning, seems to only flag pornagraphic content. Lewd isn’t necessarily pornagraphic, just not everyone wants to see it.

>>30025918
People are mostly garbage and I'd rather a community be small and filled with enthusiastic people, rather than large with people who mostly don't give a shit about the hobby but do it cause it's cool or something.

>>30030936
This just look what happen to videogames and comics
I prefer a hobby filled with coru tier autists than one full of thots

>>30031273
Fuck normalfags. They turn anything niche into a pile of steaming horseshit every time.

>>30030936
>>30031758
My experience is that people are mostly fine, it's the steaming buckets of bitterness and douchebaggary on the extremes that makes it a shitfest for everyone.

And if they're are doing the hobby, by definition they do give a shit, just maybe not about the things you care about (see: lewd). Which is fine to be in this for whatever reason. Having more people around means being able to find those who jam the way you do, and remember, no one is forcing you to like kigs whose masks, outfits, etc... you don't care for.

>>30030936
Kigu will never be cool to normies, and it's just not as accessible. Masks cost more than a $10 AliExpress cosplay.

Half of the autists here don't even own a mask, so I'm not sure why there's even a discussion about gatekeeping.

>>30025918
This is the same dumb fallacy almost every industry falls to. People thinking that "bigger is better".
"More talent and more makers"... yeah we got more ""talent"" - unimaginative thots that flood Twitter with ass pics because they don't have anything else to offer. And in the meantime we barely got any new makers, instead GKO's quality has gone to shit since he's selling cheap PU for FRP prices now, and the already established good makers like RINS keep increasing their prices. The only really notable new maker is KHS, they're PU masks too but with better shell shapes than GKO for a third of the price.
Also whoever says "kig is inherently lewd" needs a fucking history lesson. This shit started out with Precure-like stage shows, and what is inherent is the art of acting and performing, not getting your dick hard from looking at a piece of plastic.

>>30032779
Here’s what I see. More hobbiets, more creatives, more people making masks and Shari production techniques. Not everyone who paints becomes a Picasso, but having more people allows more chances to have a Picasso. And what part of not having to oblige content you don’t care for is not resonating? Thots on Twitter and Instagram. We don’t have to hit like or reshare. And if they are on Twitter they’ll only show up in discover or any hashtags I follow. Twitter shares on main feed based on what your follows are liking and sharing. One future vision has choice, the other keeps status quo (which currently has its own version of thot culture anyway)

>>30032538
Because gatekeeping is happening overtly and subvertly. To claim otherwise is willful ignorance or head in the sand syndrome.

*munches popcorn as I watch the drama unfold*

>>30032970

>More hobbiets, more creatives, more people making masks
The problem here is that the overall quality of mask makers (and even hadatai manufacturers) is getting worse and worse over time. As the overall number of hobbyists increases, the lesser the percentage of people that even begin to understand why their mask looks good or bad based on the shell shape. Trends that get supported by the "mainstream" like cheaper masks that break after a few years make it harder for the highly involved and caring enthusiasts to buy high quality products. At the end of the day it's still those highly active enthusiasts which make up the cornerstone of any hobby and community by inspiring others. Right now they're being pushed out by the more mainstream coming in at an alarming rate.

>And what part of not having to oblige content you don’t care for is not resonating?
The fact that Twitter has become the norm for Japanese and Western kigs and that it will put what is basically softcore porn into the recommendations under almost every single kig tweet, even if it's a wholesome one. It's become basically impossible to avoid the fetish side of kig on the platform that has become the standard. If you follow *any* kig on Twitter at all there's a big chance they're going to like or retweet a kig fetish post at some point, which Twitter is more likely to push into your feed because it generates more likes off of horny idiots. Now personally this doesn't bother me, but the effect it has on public perception of the hobby and the people interested in it does. I don't want kig to turn into anime fursuits where the entire reputation circles around it being a fetish and people fucking in suits.

>>30033779
>and that [Twitter] will put what is basically softcore porn into the recommendations under almost every single kig tweet, even if it's a wholesome one.
I should mention this happens even if you're not logged into your Twitter account. Try it out if you don't believe me. So people new to the hobby are extremely likely to immediately find fetish content and be turned off or form a stigma.

Kig masks already have been sold as fetish item ever since Muni became a thing, not like the public perception will ever change, just considering normies even judge alt. fashion as fetish thing.

>>30033779
Who is being pushed out and how? And unfortunately the current in demand makers are being pushed to streamline their processes to meet demand. In mainstream there is still niche and independent makers. They don’t disappear. Woodworking has fine furniture makers, while most people are fine with IKEA. Is the complaint that specialty stuff is expensive when indies make it, because I got news for you, indies can’t pay bills or rent, they can’t make you kig. And if they are good, they have to raise their prices or not be able to meet demand or buy better equipment or workspace to meet demand. If they need to hire staff, that’s another new cost.

>>30032253
this. most people are fine. it's the vocal minority that's the problem.

and it's less about maker but about those who beg for content without providing any

>>30033660
This kind of shit right here is the subvert sabotage. Anything that is hard conversation that teases out opinions and tests the validity of concerns is labeled drama. Anything that reinforces status quo, even when it is toxic, is ok.

>>30033779
>>30032779
Honestly those are ones of many reason why I believe the problem isn't the kig, but the audience. While it's true that the amount of lewd contents are rising, they're still massively outnumbered by normal cosplay.
There are hundreds of new kig pic everyday, but probably less than 10% of them could be considered suggestive. Yet they're still more likely to make it into other people feeds, because porn is just more popular.

>>30033960
lmao have you spent any time interacting with the kig community? there's people quitting or semi-quitting the hobby everywhere. even Azi looks like he's done for now and he used to be admin for the biggest western kig discord

>>30033018
You're gatekeeping about a hobby you only passively participate in by fapping to kigs on Twitter.

>>30034388
Unless this is Azi themself I won’t speak for their behalf. And I’ve been in kig a long time, I’ve seen several phases of the western hobby wax and wane. However this is 4chan where ideas should stand on their own merit not on who is saying them. I’ve been in the cosplay scene and kig scene, people only leave because they are tired of the shit or don’t have a place to go that suits them.

>>30034388
>there's people quitting or semi-quitting the hobby everywhere
This happens in all hobbies, you only notice it more because kig is smaller. I can't speak for all kig, but I feeling less passion when there's no meetups. Doesn't mean people have dropped the hobby completely.

In the end I do kigurumi for my own enjoyment and the other kigus/community are simply supplemental.

Accept everything as it comes, I feel like people who constantly argue and discuss about the hobby as a whole aren't enjoying it from their own personal experiences.
Nothing wrong with that, it's just how things are and no one can change how you feel

Even if everything goes to shit, who cares. I can still enjoy kigu. You don't need to be friends with every single kigu or kigu fan. It's nice having attention but think about what you really enjoy from the hobby.

>>30034801
Here’s why discussing is important; ideas are powerful. And these sites are the public record and help shape opinions and views. Some of us do love this hobby, but struggle to make local inroads because irl friends struggle with some the toxic elements of this community. As it stands right now, there are few niche places where they can be free of this crap without disconnecting from the online aspect. Which pretty much renders them without the healthy feedback loop that keeps them excited. Like another anon posted, not having meetups is draining for many right now. For some kigs that was not something that was exclusive to covid time.

>>29974060

OP of this entire fire here.
So I want to put my 2cents on this whole matter.

I never have an issue with kigs being lewd. Especially with those that pursue higher quality content/lewds.
However, some of the emerging issues of 2020 is the increasing prevalence of lewds, and pandering to 'mainstream' horny crowd.

Like some of the major trends that have happened is
1. Some kigs are pushed to just churn out lewds, latex stuff, etc. just because it is popular.
2. Increasing monetization of kig. It's too early to see the repercussions of it yet, but I fear it won't turn out well.

Overall, what I fear for the most is the public perception of kig. Same things that happened before to regular cosplay, fursuits, or probably a few other hobbies too.
Like I go on my account and see a female friend who went full thot.
Just churning out "uwu here's my ass" every few days in 'cosplay'.

I don't want kig to be that. The hobby deserves better.

>>30035144
>Increasing monetization of kig
There has been a lot of complaints about this. People saying so and so sold out by making a patreon/fantia/whatever
But do any kigs actually make more than pocket change off of these services?

Personally I get self conscious because I feel like my own content is shit. But it's something that makes me feel a bit better about myself in the moment and hopefully my shitty pictures will lead to eventually making less shitty pictures.

>>30035144
I feel you anon. I think tho it is fair to say that preventing that outcome is reasonable. I think for ones own emotional well-being focusing on eking out a niche audience and not worrying about “the public perception” of kig. If kig became more accessible perception changes, but it’s organic and long haul (think decades). By crafting a space for everyone we can push kig to that more accessible future and get more people who we can synergistically enjoy this hobby with. But we do have to keep doing the hard work and having these hard conversations. And I’m afraid we even have to fight for the thots because we’d be hypocritical if we had an everybody but them attitude. That canon can be turned on us and rightfully so if we were ok with doing it to others.

>>30033960

Why the fuck do you sound like you want this all to go more mainstream? It's a niche of a niche hobby, what good can pushing it more to be like other mainstream hobbies do? You're already aware of the consequences that things will seperate into mainstream and "indie" makers, but why should we want that?
It's not the "indie" makers that are adjusting for demand, it's the already big makers that know they can charge more for the same damn thing because the masses will buy into it like a brand regardless of wether it's a good product or not. We haven't seen a single maker offer more for charging more in the last couple of years.
What you're saying also doesn't line up with the fact that Sigma can keep their prices perfectly consistent while other makers' prices keep climbing beyond theirs. There's no "buy better equipment" or "hire new staff" here, it's clearly just higher profit margins because they figured out the increasing number of hobbyists brings in demand regardless of price.

>>30035144
>Increasing monetization of kig.
Natsuki and other jp kigs have been doing that in the form of lewd pic roms since the early 00s, it's nothing new.

>>30035144
>Overall, what I fear for the most is the public perception of kig
Implying that the average person doesn't think this isn't dudes getting off to dressing as animu girl.

>>30035120
Nothing wrong with discussing like I said.
I do my own thing but for those who are always in discussion, imo bring your discussion to a higher plane.

Not specifically you, but many anons/kigus just complain all day and don't do anything about it.
I'm honest with many kigus that talk with me and they usually don't expect someone to talk to them that way and I end up becoming friends with them.

That's because I'd like to be interacted with in the same way and because of this I am not on bad terms with any kigu regardless if I am their friend or not.

I could care less but I still took action towards a direction that I felt is good rather than just bringing up issues that I don't care about and doing nothing.

>>30035492

Natsuki and other JP kigs never aggressively monetized their content or push "Hey! Here's my Fantia!" or "See more in Fantia!" on every post.

>>30035144
Sum up my thought pretty well. I would be a hypocrite for saying I hate lewd stuffs, because I love them, but I adore kigu's beauty even more.

We are living in times where "kig" masks are sold at sex shops alongside onaholes, it's too late to make normies think it's not a fetish.

>>30035959
Non lewd kig here. Here’s a hot take: who cares if normies think this is a fetish? Cosplay is a fetish for some, every normie has a kink (or many). Fetish isn’t naughty, dumping it onto people who don’t care to endings with you is what is not well adjusted. I for one don’t do kig as a fetish, but don’t want to set out to make human sexual exploration “a bad thing”. We just need to find a space where consenting parties can see it if they wish and the rest of us to only see it if we’re looking for it.

Interesting

>>29579540
Pretty much all of them

>>30035943

This is the best opinion I've seen in this entire thread. Thank you.

Suck on this

>>30036930
It's completely normal to be sexually attract to something so pretty, no? It's only start to go wrong when it's the only thing you care about them, even more wrong you start to bother them about it.
I remember Mizu ranted about something like that a while ago, don't know if it's still there.

>>30025138
You say that like it isn't already in the west

Dudes, just do whatever the fuck you want.
Screw the normies or kigus who don't like it.
As long as you aren't a shithead, you can easily make friends and be involved

>>30037827
can confirm, normies will think whatever they think. be a cool.

>>30035482
Perhaps I’m not following what you’re driving at. Like on one hand it seems you’re arguing that current makers are not offering anything compelling and charging what you view, unfair prices. Yet it seems you don’t want there to be more people due to “race to the bottom” that commoditized kig would bring. I mean the closest we have to commodity maker is Muni, and most unaltered masks haven’t been show stoppers, but they have been an intro to kig for many, and other creative types have used them as a base for customizing. If there were more of these makers, odds are in our favour that more people would dabble with customizing them.

As for “profit margins” anyone who argues from this point I have yet to see them have experience with what running a business actually costs. Equipment breaks, if you lease industrial space, landlords demand lease commitments, op costs, and if hvac breaks, in commercial you are often responsible. Profit is not purely cost of matarial minus labour. Kig is a hobby that having an industrial space helps as doing it in a residential space isn’t really conducive to fabricating on any scale.

>>30043844
Go to bed Con

>>30035144
>1. Some kigs are pushed to just churn out lewds, latex stuff, etc. just because it is popular.
This. It's a hobby and kigus should do what they want, not what others want them to do. If a kigu happens to make lewds you like, lucky you, if not, they shouldn't be pressured into it. I'm a latexfag myself but seeing some kigus ditching their old cosplay outfits and making fetish content only is sad.
>2. Increasing monetization of kig. It's too early to see the repercussions of it yet, but I fear it won't turn out well.
Increasing monetization of everything is more like it. Fuck microtransactions, they ruin everything they touch.
>>30035943
>I would be a hypocrite for saying I hate lewd stuffs, because I love them,
Same. I got into kigu for fetish reasons, ngl
>but I adore kigu's beauty even more.
Also this. Right now I'm more interested in cute kigus and outfits rather than the fetish aspect.

>>30021266
>>30025918
The only people who complain about gatekeeping are those the gates were built to keep out.

>>30056014
Who exactly built these gates, and who is being kept out. I imagine this was either written to be contrarian edgy, witty, or shitposty, or a mix of the three. If you truly believe people need to be kept out of kig, it leads me to wonder if you’re a kig yourself or a fan who envisions this hobby going to shit, viewed from afar through rose coloured glasses.

>>30033779
>If you follow *any* kig on Twitter at all there's a big chance they're going to like or retweet a kig fetish post at some point
So if *every* kig on twitter is liking and retweeting fetish posts, who is the problem here? The entire kig community that doesn't seem to care, or you?
>Personally this doesn't bother me, but
and then you proceed to explain how it personally bothers you by substuting yourself with 'the public perception', which is already both incredibly low and kig is viewed as a fetish by default in the west, while the east already knows it isn't because kigu is used in stage shows/events etc.

>>30056304
>If you truly believe people need to be kept out of kig,
How can you post on /jp/ and not know why gatekeeping is beneficial? Seriously, and be honestly with me, how new are you? Where did you come from before /jp/?

>>30057131
Sweet, speaking in vague “you’d understand if you were experienced” without specifics. I’ve been around long enough to know that gatekeeping seems to be the stock and trade of the fan-side of kig. Most kigs throw the “makers doc” at whomever asks, because we want the info to be out there and accessible. I agree, gatekeeping is a 4chan thing. But so is not being a hug box. We are all capable of shit ideas, and if there are no concrete reasons other than vague generalized platitudes and crystal ball future telling (future only has this one perceived awful outcome), I really think it is fair to ask for more specifics and thinking exercises. Dogma is formed here, and bleeds outside of this site. I know 4chan’s stock and trade is shitposting, memeposting, and culture subversion.

>>30057288
>We are all capable of shit ideas
Yes, and your idea is shit.
>Most kigs throw the “makers doc” at whomever asks
Throwing the doc at someone is different to trying to create sanitized spaces for the 'public image' of kigs because you're worried you can't bring in more casual cosplayers to the community.
>I know 4chan’s stock and trade is shitposting, memeposting, and culture subversion.
>subversion
Thank you for clarifying that you're a massive newfag that came from tumblr or twitter or some shit.
Go the fuck back and take your /cgl/ attitude with you.

Fuck the faggots that think that all hobbies should be "accessible" and "sanitized". You're the same retards who ruin culture with that absurd mentality.

>>30059510

I don’t think things need to be sanitized, however, if a hobby is not accessible, it ends up becoming an exclusive circlejerk club, and we all know what kinds of shit happens from it.

>>30059997
The kind of accessibility talked about by those who want to 'sanitize' a hobby is not like "the information is easy to find" but more like "please respect everyone's pronouns and support trans rights, kigu is a trans hobby!" kind of 'accessible', as in 'access' means 'don't keep out these groups you justifiably do not want, EVERYONE must be let in'.
It sounds hyperbolic but I have already seen some western groups begin to lean this way.

Itt: board of community directors, discussing further directions of the hobby.

That aside: gimme some outfit ideas for OC characters aside from memes like para2 and leohex swimsuits..

>>30061181
Magical girl in heavy, reasonably bulky combat armour

>>30061058

Can you be more specific? Not sure if I follow.

This controlling behavior, sometimes done by group admins/mods, is the reason some of us avoid these groups in the first place.
Personally I don't care if my mask is of maker X or my clothes/hadatai/... are of brand Y. I just try to have a good time and create pictures, both wholesome ones and fetishy ones.

>>30061181
Depend on your OC character.

>>30061453
The "respect my pronouns" crowd is already encroaching the Western kigurumi community. Does the West ever export culture that isn't pozzed?

Let's get things straight first, who's on who's side here? It looks like nolewd anons support gate keeping, but wasn't gate keep brought up by lewd anon? Or did I get something wrong.

>>30061820

not everyone is a bigot like you

>>29578318
Obviously depends on the kig, but trust me, some of them talk a lot of politics. You just don't understand it. ;)

>>30029877
Problem there is that you can't mark individual tweets. Only your whole account.
Get your act together, Twitter!

>>30062183
50%.

Can’t help but feel people are missing a bigger barrier of entry for potentially interested people than lewd stuff. The bigger problem being the kigs themselves.

Honestly is there a single kig out there that doesn’t have a shitty rep and/or actually cares about contact with people outside their own little bubble?

Like, if a new person wanted to jump in and get to know some kigs, who would you actually direct them towards?
I’d unfortunately assume such a person’s best bet would be the KSZ discord and that’s a pretty fucking shitty place for newcomers.

>>30066625
That's not really a barrier tho, I've never seen a single case where someone introduced themself as new kig and didn't get a huge wave of welcomes from others, no matter the platform.

>>30066980
Sure they’ll give empty platitudes but if you actually want a conversation prepare to be ignored.

>>30067353
You sound like someone who isn't even part of the community.

>>30067353
Are you one of those creeps that gets annoyed when kigs that don't instantly respond to them? Because you seem like it.

>>30067393
>>30067412
Hah, immediate deflections.
But I’ve been a lurker for a number of years now and being a non kig I’ve never been naive enough to think I’d so much get the time of day. But I’ve seen plenty of people who do genuinely try to interact and get shunned for it.

When people are being ignored for just saying “hi, how is everyone” or even just asking a genuine question about kig how can anyone pretend that’s not a barrier to entry?

>>30067552
>lurker
>acting like he knew shit
kek

>>30067552
>“hi, how is everyone”
That will even get you ignored at normie communities, that's not how to start conversations.

>>30067817
Ah yes because lurking suddenly means I don’t have eyes. But keep defending shitty people and wondering why the hobby seems to be getting progressively worse I guess.

Either way I’m washing my hands of this shit. It’s amazing how easily people can suck the passion out of you.

>>30067932
Can't have been much passion to begin, else you would have long been a kig and not a lurker.

>>30067988
Sure, let’s just become a kig with all that money I don’t have and have fun with that community that doesn’t combust into drama every five minutes and where every in-group doesn’t despise every other in-group.

Ask any Kig, most of the fun is in group activities, and that’s the one thing the community makes the hardest to enjoy.

>>30068249
The most fun in kig is getting photos taken at cons, ain't need a comm for that. Also, what you describe is like a normie wanting to start chitchat in a cosplay group, most people aren't in those for things beyond the hobby-related content.

>>30068249
Well anon like most things in life people don't give a shit about you unless you have something to offer them. People won't be your friend because you're "nice". You have to become a good kig, go to conventions and meet people there. Or you can post your pictures on social media and if people like what they see they may even contact you. If that doesn't work, you have to initialize a conversation with another kig you like. If they see that you're also a kig who puts enough effort into it, they won't immediately ignore you.

>>30068673
Pretty sure you don't even need to be a kig, photographer or fan artist are more than enough. But asking people to be your friend when you're just a random guy is pretty ridiculous, being nice doesn't mean shit.

>>30068673
If someone is that egotistical in their relations with others then that person is a waste of space not worth knowing, they’re not someone you’re ever going to enjoy the company of at the very least.

I’m not saying people need to fall over themselves to answer to newcomers’ every beck and call, but the current trend complete and total apathy at the best of times, outright scorn more often.

>>30069117
You're missing the point. As >>30068936 points out, kigs get enough messages from randos all the time. Why the fuck should they care about some autist who says "hi, how is everyone"? You need to prove you're worth their time by being a (good) kig, photographer, artist, etc.

>>30069117
dude, time is limited. people aren't here for your pleasure. smalltalk won't get you anywhere. if you try that with a gamer you're getting ignored because ingame. cosplayers? crafting or taking photos of half naked asses - aparently.

if there's a conversation going, join and see if you can contribute. asking specific questions usually gets you answers because people like to talk about their hobby.

>>30067872
>>30067353
ain't nobody got time for chitchat.

>>30069244
Not missing the point at all, I’ll say it again, if you rank how worthy someone is to communicate with you based on how you’ll benefit from said communication then you’re a cunt, plain and simple.

I’m not even talking about PMs or creepy shit like “can I be Onee-san’s friend”, but something as simple as a person asking a basic fucking question in a public space, whether it be here or the server or in a Twitter thread or anywhere else, and that person getting completely blanked by everyone else or mocked for having the audacity to have asked.

This is the level our “community” is at. You’re only allowed to ask questions, discuss things or simply chat in public spaces if you’re in the in-group.

>>30069578
I'm beginning to suspect you've never had a normal relationship with another person before.

>>30069578
I think this is going back to "the point" that got missed when talking about accessible, not "respect my pronouns" shit, but as you say, not getting shit on for being new and not living up to some imaginary standard (whether knowledge, mask, attitude, etc).

>>30069802
IDK anon, I didn't get that. This seems like don't be that "oh my gawd did you read the logs, reee!" this was answered in thread blah blah, 4 years ago by blah blah.

Ad hominem attacking this person I think shows their point.

>>30069880

I second this. This has been a common thread since forever.

Don't let anime mask drama distract you from the fact that Kevin Nash was raped in the sweltering hot summer of 1992.

I want pictures of kigs!

>>30070155
Feels bad that I was never able to attend one of her live events.

>>30070192
This is all I want bros

>>30070192
Why is a simple picture of hand holding making me think about suicide

>>30069578
>if you rank how worthy someone is to communicate with you based on how you’ll benefit from said communication then you’re a cunt, plain and simple
that opposes the point of communities tho, people don't join them for people to talk about "everything" because that can be done without the need for own communities for specific subjects to begin with

>>30070470
Yearning for the unobtainable is a great way to become suicidal.

Sauce: https://twitter.com/amaama626/status/1334077385063337990?s=09

>>30070346
>>30070470
>>30070587

Become a kig and hold a guy's hand instead.

>>30070526
The point of a community in this context is to facilitate communication on a particular subject. It’s not inherently elitist, it lets everyone know what the main topic is and let’s people decide if that’s something they’re interested in before they join.

This is a far cry from someone who is interested joining a community only to find they’re not welcome there because they don’t live up to other member’s standards or haven't actively participated before. This completely goes against the purpose of a community because communication is no longer possible.

>>30061181

Raincoat with umbrella, specifically the kid playing in the rain puddles look.

>>30069578
>if you rank how worthy someone is to communicate with you based on how you’ll benefit from said communication then you’re a cunt, plain and simple.
I can already tell you're some low value random orbiter that fails to lurk moar.

>>30072065
Thanks for proving my point cunt.

>>30069578

If you ask in general chat for any MMO game, there's a good chance that you will be ignored, but if you lurk enough that you can figure out which skill tree you want to work towards and find a group that might need your skills, you can hence start talking with random guild members and have a better eventual chance of socializing with a much smaller guild.

Similar to that, if you go to the discord and dump a kig noob starter pack question, it might as well be white noise to everyone since the chat either moves too fast or your question already gets asked enough times that there's a doc already available for it, but if instead you do some research and contact, say, a prominent kig group from your own country, state or region, you might have a better chance of slipping into their group and be at home with a much smaller sub-community.

>>30061181
Cowboy (girl) kig

>>30072476
Except small localised kig groups are incredibly insular. They’re usually a couple of people who have known each other for years and have no interest in expanding their little friendship circle.

If the big, open to the public, communities aren’t willing to give a rat’s arse why would the small group who actively distance themselves be any better?

>>30072476
Why would you want to join a sub-community that has more drama and infighting?

>>30061392
platemail-chan. got it.
>>30072050
kid.. puddle... ugh. gonna need a really large puddle.
>>30072483
i think that's livestock-chans territory. Can I open a cow-kigurumi ranch and make money off their fantia simps?

thanks for the input.

>>30070712
>tfw no relationship with another kig where we take turns being the guy

>>30073387
why would you want to take turns?

>>30073387
Goals

>>30073291

Depending on your location, there might be little to no infighting?

>>30063449
didnt think that image would show up anywhere

>>30072914
You sound really out of touch regarding the kig comm desu.

>watching ojisans fighting like women because of their anime head hobby

>>30072914
The UK kigs are easy to talk to in my experience. They still won't respond if you keep asking stupid questions but they don't have egos.

>>30073734
I wish that was the case, I really do. If I could just blame it all on pessimism and cynicism I might of still had hopes of getting my own mask one day.

>>30073447
Sometimes I wanna be the waifu and sometimes I just wanna hold her hand and protect her from lampposts.

>>30074617
only around seafront areas

>>30073924
Lol what, Brits in general are arseholes, surely they'd be the worst of the bunch.

>>30073734

Thats kinda expected given their complaints of gatekeeping. Isn’t that the point?

>>30075117
you sound salty