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>> No.2914182

Old news now.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/last50/S2252275

>> No.2914183

licensed

>> No.2914191

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games is now a meme.

>> No.2914192

>>2914183
It has to be something more intricate than that. Everyone in #Ensue, the TLWiki channel pirates and cracks VNs, so I'm sure something happened between these guys and JAST happened.

>> No.2914205

>>2914192

They threatened to send Dan Kim to assassinate them.

>> No.2914224

Moogy on Encubed forum

>As for the Nitro+ stuff, wait for an official statement.

>> No.2914231 [DELETED] 

Really? Because to me it sounded like JAST had successfully constructed and deployed Noah II, convincing the TLWiki staffers to spew the canned message by forcing delusions onto them. Eventually, /jp/ will also fall victim to JAST's delusional attacks, and we'll mentally be stuck in an endless summer where new visual novel translations are announced just in time to distract us from the fact that the last anticipated ones have never been released. Just look at how Family Project has been delayed. JAST's conquest is already beginning.

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>> No.2914236

I want "Hello World".

>> No.2914250

JAST has successfully constructed and deployed Noah II, convincing the TLWiki staffers to spew the canned message by forcing delusions onto them. I was spared as I only contributed image edits. Eventually, /jp/ will also fall victim to JAST's delusional attacks, and we'll mentally be stuck in an endless summer where new visual novel translations are announced just in time to distract us from the fact that the last anticipated ones have never been released. Just look at how Family Project has been delayed. JAST's conquest is already beginning.

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>> No.2914261

>>2914250
You're a moron.

What's probably going on in here is that JAST is currently under some sort of negotiations/heavy bullying with the TL Wiki guys. We'll have to wait and see what comes out of this.

>> No.2914263

>>2914250
Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>> No.2914266

>>2914261
Why hello there, TLWiki admins.

>> No.2914275

>>2914266
If I was a TL Wiki admin, I probably couldn't tell you that.

They're being all secretive about it.

>> No.2914328

Does anyone have the scripts before they got deleted? I'll set up my own damn wiki hosted out of the US if I have to.

>> No.2914335

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games.

>> No.2914353

>>2914328
No.

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games.
Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games.
Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games.

>> No.2914719

>>2914328
Have some patience, they'll probably make an official announcement in due time.

>> No.2914894

>Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

I actually do support them.
I just find it unnecessary to stop the projects of other Nitro+ titles except Demonbane and Jingai Makyou since those are the only titles that JAST USA has the license for.

Unless JAST USA have contacted the TLWiki guys and complained to them directly (and having some valid arguments) then I can't really see why the projects should stop.

While I do support JAST USA I do support the fan projects even more.

>> No.2914925

>>2914328
If you're talking about sumaga, yes, I have scripts on me. But that won't help you, apparently gckt atsani, the only translator, was bought as well.

>> No.2914931

fuck I love it when I'm trying to find a translation after reformatting and I get this shit

>> No.2915029
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2915029

But they didn't even license Sumaga!

Fuck this shit.

>> No.2915041

Can someone upload the partial patch for Sumaga? I didn't DL it before they took it off.

>> No.2915055

>>2915029

Female Adachi? That would be kinda hot.

>> No.2915065

faggots and douches

you can come up with something better then that

>> No.2915083

As if 90% of people won't torrent the damn games when they're out and never bother again.

>> No.2915118

>>2915041
I only have the old Spica route files, still want me to upload them?

>> No.2915119

>>2915041
Bump for Sumaga partial patch.

>> No.2915130

>>2915118
It would be appreciated if you could.

>> No.2915140
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2915140

So what about us who actually have a physical copy of the game already? WHY JAST WHY!?

>> No.2915141

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>> No.2915154

>>2915130
Give me a moment to upload them to mediafire.

>> No.2915162

>>2915140
Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>> No.2915166

Hopefully there will be some kind of announcement soon, just waiting when you have no idea of what's going on is annoying.

>> No.2915174

>>2915162
If by support you mean pirate, then I'm with you all the way brother.

>> No.2915179

>>2915154
Link is here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y3hd422gxwz
Extract the folder to the directory and just get rid of the nss.npa.

>> No.2915182

JAST is just a company more interested in cashing in on safe sex romp titles instead of releasing games the community wants. Watch as they release only one Nitro+ game every year and release five more sex romps.

>> No.2915187

>>2915179
Thanks a ton, bro.

>> No.2915203

>>2915182
> JAST is just a company more interested in cashing in on safe sex romp titles instead of releasing games the community wants. Watch as they release only one Nitro+ game every year and release five more sex romps.

They just need one announced big title to keep those who don't just want sex romps to pay attention. Which is why only now we get Family Project.

>> No.2915210

Can someone upload Chaos;HEad RC1 patch? They deleted the link to mediafire.

>> No.2915226

>>2915210
I'll see what I can do, just a moment.

>> No.2915232

>>2915210
Let me see if I still have it.

>> No.2915237

>>2915210
Seconded.

>> No.2915238

>>2915232
Uploading now.

>> No.2915240

>>2915210
Well, it looks like it will take over an hour since the file is like 90 something MB. Do you want to wait that long?

>> No.2915250

>>2915238
~6 min remaining.

>> No.2915255

What a pile of shit.
This is why I hate fan translations, always made of retards looking for e-peen and renow on the internets, like it was worth shit, instead of caring about the damned translation.
Seriously, why care ? Who the hell buys VNs anyways, they should've just gone undergroud and complete the translation silently and release it instead of this.
But no, if it's there aren't a legion of fanboys licking their asses they won't care.

>> No.2915258

>>2915250
I'll keep mine going just for kicks lol. Might as well have a mirror.

>> No.2915270

What is MOON like anyways? I already have the Saya and Chaos patches installed with the game.

>> No.2915268 [DELETED] 

http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/cgi-board.pl?task=thread&num=1497800

>> No.2915286

>>2915250
Link here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gmkymqzfymk
Follow readme to install.

>> No.2915291

>>2914925
>apparently gckt atsani, the only translator, was bought as well.

Bought? What do you mean with bought?
Did JAST USA hire him or something?
And will he not be able to work on his fan projects anyway?
I really loved the sumaga fan translation.

>> No.2915303

>>2915286

What's the difference between this one and the antifail patch?

>> No.2915317

>>2915303
First "official" patch, I believe.

>> No.2915326

Does JAST have an email address? I would just like to ask them if they intend to censor content from demonbane or any other projects they do.

It would after all be false advertising if they lied about it.

>> No.2915345

>>2915326
>Does JAST have an email address? I would just like to ask them if they intend to censor content from demonbane or any other projects they do.

They rarely censor, and they have released worse content then Demonbane, and their censorship in the past has hurt them, so I doubt it.

>> No.2915351

This is pretty depressing, especially the Sumaga stuff, I mean waiting for december for a happy end wasn't too bad but now, that happy end might not come for years.;_;

>> No.2915359

Whatever.

Shit will be all over the torrents when it gets released.

See Mangagamer stuff.

>> No.2915378

>>2915359
>when it gets released
This is the problem. JAST has a reputation for being fucking slow asses, and I doubt they will change any time soon. We can expect a localization of Sumaga in a few years.

>> No.2915381

>>2915359
The problem is the time, Noah and Sumaga were probably going to be finished this year, and now, who knows when we'll get them, if we even get them, that is.

>> No.2915399

>>2915378
When you are a NEET time becomes pretty irrelevant, and it passes like nothing.

>> No.2915401

>>2915378
>JAST has a reputation for being fucking slow asses

Pretty much the same as every fan translation group ever.

At least you know it's getting finished someday.

>> No.2915414

>>2915399
Too bad I'm not a NEET. ;_;

>> No.2915421

>>2914328
In the words of Anonymous, "DO IT FAGGOT!"

>> No.2915436

>>2915421
The problem is, no one has the scripts, most likely.

>> No.2915470

The only thing I can think of in salvaging part of this is AoRF, might have the sumaga scripts as he was fixing part of them,I believe.

>> No.2915472

Here's a mirror of the Chaos;Head RC1 patch:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ly21mxzt4xj

>> No.2915479

>>2915436
Google remembers... but not for long --- grab everything you want now!

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:tsukuru.info+inurl:nss&hl=en

>> No.2915487

>>2915472
Downloading for posterity.

>> No.2915494

>>2915479
This will take forever ;_;

>> No.2915509

>>2915494
Someone could take one for the team and record down everything. Is there any program for such a task?

>> No.2915517

>>2915479
Doesn't look like everything to me.

>> No.2915524

>>2914176
Hey guys, how about we split the work?

Each person can do 10 pages of links each.

>> No.2915537

>>2915517
Aww, that's a shame.

>> No.2915551

Why do JAST USA have a reputation of being slow?

If you look at their record they used to release 1-2 games a year.
http://vndb.org/p102

And now I actually don't know if this is true, but I have heard that it is the same staff like G-Collections but if you look at their record it is pretty much the same with the exception of their TBA titles.
http://vndb.org/p3

And someone said that it is the same guys as Peach Princess even though I don't know if that is true. But if you look at their record it is the same again, pretty 1-2 titles a year.
http://vndb.org/p41

So I really don't know why JAST USA have a reputation of being slow. If you believe that 1-2 titles a year is slow... then you are impatient guy. And if it now really is the same staff, then it would supposedly be a lot more than 1-2 titles a year considering the fact that the different companies release titles simultanesly, which would actually make them pretty fast.

Have I missed something vital or is the rumor about them being slow just dumb?

>> No.2915554
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2915554

http://rapidshare.com/files/254087552/tlwiki-20090702-pages-meta-current.xml.bz2

>> No.2915558

>>2915479
Maybe try the samething, but with the assembla thins too?

>> No.2915563

I think that JAST just c&d tlwiki guys or bought their works which is awesome.

>> No.2915572

>>2915551
People are angry at them because they've got the bad habit to announce games they most likely haven't even began localizing like they were ready by end of the month or something.

>> No.2915576

>>2915551
No, they are slow.

Family Project took them 2 years to complete. The only story oriented game we saw out of them last year was Princess Waltz. In their entire history, Kana, PW, FP, Crescendo, and maybe Snow Sakura are the only story games we have gotten out of them. All they do is release a bunch of sex romps and bide their time on story based games because they like to make the excuse that those types of games are more of a gamble financially as they don't know how well they will sell.

>> No.2915578

Let's salvage what we can...
http://shareswift.com/0nbhm0zvux0q/[TLWiki]_Saya_no_Uta_English_Localization_v1.0.0.zip.html

>> No.2915585

>>2915554
キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!

>> No.2915595

>>2915563
>bought their work
If that was the case then why didn't they say so in the first place, instead of dele fucking everything leaving only a 1 line message.

>> No.2915600

>>2915479
Here's more stuff that got cached, grab it before it disappears:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Atsukuru.info+inurl%3Anss

>> No.2915605

>They just need one announced big title to keep those who don't just want sex romps to pay attention. Which is why only now we get Family Project.

I haven't gotten it yet :(

>> No.2915612

>>2915554
This legitimate?

>> No.2915617 [DELETED] 

>>2915576
You forgot Yue Miru Kusuri. But yeah, Jast is slow.

>> No.2915619

>>2915612
Downloading right now. I'll confirm once it's finished.

>> No.2915620

>>2915554
Is that what I think it is?

>> No.2915622

>>2915401
Will it really? Look at Family Project? Will that EVER get released?

>> No.2915628

>>2915595
They are still in negotiations?
It would be FUCKYEAH if tliwiki actually worked with them.

>> No.2915629

>>2915576
You forgot Yume Miru Kusuri. But yeah, Jast is slow.

>> No.2915633

>>2915626
My bad, I knew I was forgetting something.

>> No.2915637

>>2915622
They said that it wend gold at their AX boot camp.

>> No.2915640

>>2915622
It's coming out by the end of the month.

>> No.2915644

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games.

>> No.2915645

It appears that Yahoo has more pages cached than Google.

>> No.2915659

>>2915645
anyone know a way to save the html files en masse?

>> No.2915731

>>2915659
wget

>> No.2915746

>>2915554
That looks a bit on the small side...

>> No.2915756

Can anyone tell me what to open the xml with so I can try and at least confirm the contents?

>> No.2915759

Non sex-romp titles by JAST USA
http://vndb.org/v206
http://vndb.org/v119
http://vndb.org/v843
http://vndb.org/v190
http://vndb.org/v113
http://vndb.org/v147
http://vndb.org/v146

7 titles out of 14. They have been active 10 years.
They released an average of 1.4 titles a year.


Non sex-romp titles by G-Collection.
http://vndb.org/v2
http://vndb.org/v121
http://vndb.org/v29
http://vndb.org/v136
http://vndb.org/v54
http://vndb.org/v71

6 titles out of 30. They have been active for 7 years.
They released an average of 4.3 titles a year.


Non sex-romp titles by Peach Princess.
http://vndb.org/v145
http://vndb.org/v117
http://vndb.org/v44
http://vndb.org/v156

4 titles out of 17. They have been active for 7 years.
They released an average of 2.4 titles a year.

JAST USA released their first game 1996 and their latest game 2006.
G-Collections started released their first game 2002 and their latest game this year 2009.
And peach princess released their first game 2001 and their latest game 2008.

Now, if we were to consider these companies as one group who started 1996 and who have worked to this day year 2009 with 61 titles who have been active for 13 years that would make an average of 4.7 titles a year.

Now how could 4.7 titles a year be considered slow?

>> No.2915764

>>2915746
Comes out to ~100 MB unzipped.

>> No.2915770
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2915770

>>2915578

YOU'RE SAFE NOW, SAYA!

>> No.2915784

inb4 they license all the games that are translated

>> No.2915791

>>2915770
Mind a re-upload to a different source? I can't seem to download it from there.

>> No.2915793

>>2915784
And hire all translators. That would be epic win.

>> No.2915813

>>2915759
Maybe I should say well regarded non-sex romp titles. A lot of the titles you included links for are simply titles from companies they had deals with, not necessarily quality titles. On the other hand, MangaGamer has released quite a few games that are recognized and well-regarded by the Japanese community, such as Suika, Kira Kira, Da Capo (I have no idea why either), and Edelweiss.

If we can expect four big name titles from MG every year, that sure as hell beats JAST USA, even if the translation quality is lower.

>> No.2915820

>>2915813
gtfo Zun douche fucking bar!

>> No.2915823

>>2915791
http://rapidshare.com/files/254101357/_TLWiki__Saya_no_Uta_English_Localization_v1_1_.0.0.zip

>> No.2915826

>>2915820
lol u told him broseph

>> No.2915857

>>2915823
Thank you Anon.

>> No.2915867
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>>2915554
Fuck yeah.

>> No.2915894

>>2915813
>even if the translation quality is lower.

If the translation quality is lower then the game will forever and ever be worse than it should.
If Mangagamer translates 4 big titles a year and turns them into crap, then Mangagamer will be responsible for the destruction of an english Visual Novel market which could have been good if they wouldn't have licensed everything and turned them into shit.

Mangagamer will be the end of the english Visual Novel market.

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2915898

>>2915867

>> No.2915940

>>2915894
Like many, you exaggerate the extent to which MangaGamer's translations are bad. I will admit that Edelweiss's translation was pure shit, but that was one of their initial releases and was thus of a much lower quality than the translations they provide for their newer titles.

I like to bring up Kira Kira as a baseline for readable quality translation. It does contain numerous errors, but it's not very detracting from the overall experience. Most of the errors in that game's script are mostly typographical and grammatical, something that could easily be fixed by proofreaders in the future, if MangaGamer ever gets around to doing something like that.

If MangaGamer can at least meet this level of quality for all of their future releases, I don't have that much of a problem. They provide translations quickly and efficiently, so as long as the translations are readable, they are a boon on the English Visual Novel community.

>> No.2915981

>>2915940
I thought they did have proofreaders. iirc they delayed some of the releases (Da Capo?) in order to improve the translation. I doubt we'll ever see anything like the Hinata Bokko/first Edelweiss translation from MG again, and for that I am thankful.

>> No.2915994

>>2915940
>something that could easily be fixed by proofreaders in the future
Do you really think they would do such a thing?

And besides, even the parts of Kira Kira that didn't have errors (most of them did even if they were minor) weren't exactly written like an english speaker would.

I blame the translation since it wasn't that bad in its original japanese.
Mangagamer either greatly lowers the quality of a work or turns it into pure shit and Kira Kira is a good example of a good title which have been throughoutly raped by Mangagamer.

>> No.2916002

So why is /jp/ hunting for the Sumaga files? Fan translation to spite Jast?

>> No.2916023

>>2916002
It's a shame to lose all the progress. Who knows, maybe some kind translator will pick it up where the old translation team left off. If someone can hop on it before the end of this year at least, we may be able to get a complete Sumaga translation before JAST ever gets their grubby hands on it.

>> No.2916053

What I fail to see with all that "Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games" is that back few years ago when Hirameki was localizing Phantom, they also had business affiliation with Nitro+ to a certain extent (granted, not as hyped as Nitro+ with JAST now, but essentially the same), yet no one had any problem with fantranslating Saya No Uta for example (I'm talking about the first attempts with the initial translators).
If I recall correctly they both happened at the same time, yet Hirameki wasn't bothered by someone else translating other games of the company they are related with.
Is JAST going to buy the Nitro+ fantranslations later on? That'd be the only logical explanation I can think of, which would explain why everyone removed even the finished fantranslations.

>> No.2916065

>>2916053
I personally think that JAST is putting some kind of pressure on the TLWiki guys, prompting them to take all their stuff down.

>> No.2916075
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2916075

>>2916002
>/jp/
>translating

good one broski!

>> No.2916076

>>2916053
I also realize that, but do anyone think here that JAST is going to TL Chaos Head or Saya or even better: XBOX360 C;H Noah? I eat my hat if they localize any of these 3. Then for what reason are they enforcing the removal of said titles from the TLWiki? They probably won't do it.

>> No.2916083

Sure as hell JAST can't buy these.
The translation was open to everyone and thus has no particular owner, also if they wanted they could've taken it without permission, change some wording and no one could've done a damned thing.

>> No.2916123

>>2916083
But if they at least had a dialogue with the fan translation group that would give them a better start regarding the relations between them and fan translation groups.

If you worked on a project and then some kind of company takes your work and then releases without even including you in the credits, it wouldn't exactly make you the happiest man in the world, would it?

I hope that they will get along good with fan translation projects since I believe that would be good for both the fans and their company, some kind of win-win situation.

If they were going to use the fan translations for their releases that would be awesome.
I loved the fan translations of the Nitro+ games and I would surely buy their physical products as long as they didn't ruin anything in the process.

>> No.2916125

>>2915867
What did you use to extract/read the xml?

>> No.2916188

Come on guys, they made a deal with JAST. So we can take it granted that they will bring over Chaos Head.

>> No.2916263

>>2916188
I'm sorry to be so pessimistic bro, but I doubt it. Most of their customer base, has already played it through some time ago, and to be quite honest it is mediocre at best. I personally tend to believe most of those people who played it won't be arsed to spend money on it, just to play it for the second time. (At least I certainly won't, despite that I supported MG, Hirameki, and JAST already in the past). Especially some moralfags, who actually imported the japanese game, and used the patch. Would they spend money on C;H for the second time?
Not to mention it contradicts with their statement that they want to bring "adult dating-sims" to the west (You don't really date girls in C;H I think).

>> No.2916277

I was going to support JAST USA and buy Demonbane when it's released, but based on all this, I think I'll just go ahead and be a pirate.

>> No.2916370

>>2916125
mediawiki, duh.

>> No.2916372

>>2916277
Well if they draconinanly suppress all N+ fantranslations like the way they do it now (it honestly feels like that). I'm not going to support a"dictature" with my money I'm afraid, regardless of how awesome they are.

>> No.2916390

>>2916263
I haven't played it yet. Can't be bothered with the installation. I will wait for a real version on my usual torrent site.

>> No.2916402

JIngai Makyou translation is still here
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Jingai_Makyou

>> No.2916412

Protip: They didn't remove Gekkou no Carnevale and Jingai Makyo translations from the wiki because they couldn't contact the translators.

>> No.2916418

http://www.nitroplususa.com/

It looks like they're making them a separate brand.

>> No.2916424

what's the big deal about Nitro+ anyway? The guys who did C;H, Saya and Sumaga could just have translated something better, like, I dunno, Akabeesoft2 or LiarSoft stuff (which we can be sure as hell won't ever be licensed in the US)

>> No.2916432

>>2915994
sup' jastusa employee

>> No.2916433

>>2916424
Opinions, man.

>> No.2916434

>>2914176
Hey guise, this whole ordeal is a conspiracy with the intention to launch an attack on JAST. TLWiki bros knew that taking down all their translation files would cause a shitstorm in the fan community and would produce the exact opposite result of what their little message spams for us to do. They knew that what they are doing now would hurt JAST more than help them, so they have just temporarily taken down their stuff. Once they feel like the whole thing has sunk in by the community, they will put the translations back and continue their fan translations.

So far, it has all gone according to plan.

>> No.2916448

>>2916263
What do you mean mediocre?
Even though it is a matter of taste.
It is ranked #14 on vndb and it got a really good score on erogamescape as well.

http://vndb.org/v382
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=9960

I do believe that calling it "mediocre at best" is a bit much.

>> No.2916451

>>2916424
Sup faggot

>> No.2916471

>>2915994
>Do you really think they would do such a thing?
I don't rule out the possibility. They did a reproofing of Edelweiss and Da Capo in the past, so perhaps they would do it again in the future if they are doing well enough to afford hiring someone to do it.

And again, you are taking it too far with your denunciation of MangaGamer's translation, especially in the case of Kira Kira. Go play Edelweiss or Hinata Bokko if you want to experience true shit. The truth is, Kira Kira's translation is of readable quality and can still be enjoyed despite the ubiquitous errors.

>> No.2916484

>>2916448
Popular does not mean good. Even though I'm one of those people who liked it.

>> No.2916491

>>2916053
Doesn't have to be but what might be the case that Jast were assured negotiations of future titles if their initial nitro+ releases do well.
This doesn't mean they have already secured more titles but something like a declaration of intent between nitro+ and jast regarding their partnership.
And for that eliminating non authorized translations to protect the IP must be part of the deal.

>> No.2916495

>>2916412
>>2916402
Hello World too (don't know what % progress though)
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=%22Hello,_world.%22
Kikokugai - The Cyber Slayer too (no translations yet though)
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kikokugai_-_The_Cyber_Slayer-
And Sweet Pool too (~2% prog)
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Sweet_Pool

All 3 are Nitro Plus titles.

>> No.2916504

>>2916448
Being the 14th most popular VN available in English isn't really saying much IMO

>> No.2916507

>>2916504
That's not just english VNs. However >>2916484

>> No.2916517

>>2916507
take a look at this list: http://vndb.org/v/all?q=;ti=;te=;o=d;s=pop

Yes, vndb also has a lot of VNs not available in English, but given that vndb's userbase consists mostly of people who don't read Japanese, the top positions in the list will in practice always be the VNs that are available in English. All 13 games above C;H are such VNs.

>> No.2916525

>>2916471
>They did a reproofing of Edelweiss and Da Capo in the past

Their reproofing of Edelweiss still sucked and they basically changed old errors for new and in the end the new version weren't really any better than their first release.
Da Capo is their best release out of all their translations and it is actually good, but it is somewhat of a sole exception.

>Kira Kira's translation is of readable quality and can still be enjoyed despite the ubiquitous errors.

It still was way worse than the original (go learn japanese if you don't believe me)
Sure it was enyoyable, but that is only because Kira Kira was good from the start.
Mangagamer have forever damaged Kira Kira's reputation who actually is a lot better than what people here in the west says it is thanks to Mangagamer's release.

>> No.2916530

Chaos;HEad was a good VN, top-tier for translated ones, so stop even discussing with tasteless trolls. Japan is saiying the same as the game scored higher than nekofail. Therefore: cased => closed

>> No.2916553

>>2916525
Kira Kira's current quality is plenty good enough to me. Most of the people bitching about Kira Kira in the respective threads are mostly samefagging trolls anyway, just like all single VN specific threads. I have not gotten the vibe that Kira Kira has a bad reputation in the English community outside of the population of obvious trolls.

And I understand that the original is better. Hell, any form of media in its original language is intrinsically superior to any translation. That's not what I was trying to say.

>> No.2916554

>>2916530
>Chaos;HEad was [...] top-tier for translated ones

This is precisely because there are so few seriously story-oriented VNs translated in comparison to sexromps, and of those few a nontrivial amount are Nitro+ stuff.

I mean, I'm not saying C;H wasn't a good game, but it certainly isn't anywhere near top tier as far as Japanese stuff is considered. The EGS average isn't even 80. If the people who are/were doing Nitro+ stuff would have all done other companies' stuff, the current top tier translated VNs would be a different group of games entirely.

>> No.2916561

>>2916530
But I like both.

>> No.2916568

>>2916561
But nekofags are shitting up the forum while trolling every other VN. They even trolled Kira Kira.

>> No.2916569

>>2916517
>>2916507
>>2916504
>>2916484

Erogamescape rankings of how good they thought it were and not how popular it is.

100 4
90~99 38
80~89 127
70~79 87
60~69 29
50~59 15
40~49 4
30~39 3
20~29 1
10~19 0  
0~9 2

0~9 = The worst games there is.
10~19 = Plain shit
20~29 = Really bad games
30~39 = Bad games
40~49 = Almost not bad
50~59 = Mediocre games
60~69 = Good games
70~79 = Really good games
80~89 = Awesome games
90~99 = Nearly perfect games
100 = Perfect games

Apparently the majority of people found it to be an awesome game, surely not mediocre.

>> No.2916575

>>2916568
>nekofags
Stop forcing this shit.

>> No.2916589

>>2916553
>And I understand that the original is better. Hell, any form of media in its original language is intrinsically superior to any translation.

The thing with Kira Kira is that the Original was A LOT better than the english release, which i actually very sad since it really was a really good game (far better than the english release).

>> No.2916594

>>2916575
Seriously now,

UMAD
.....?

>> No.2916611

>>2916589
So, you mean that it's bad because it's in English?

>> No.2916615

>>2916569
What the fuck is your problem? Nobody (except that one guy, who probably wasn't even any of the posts you replied to) is saying that C;H is _mediocre_. The point is more that there was a HUGE amount of MUCH better games direly in need of translation when the tlwiki guys started doing C;H. That there are thousands upon thousands of VNs worse than C;H (thus making it above average) does not in any way invalidate this.

>> No.2916636

>>2916615
C;H was being translated because it was new, because it was Nitro+ (no one cared that it's actually 5pb) and because the anime was soon to be aired.

>> No.2916645

>>2916615
CRYMOAR fagget because this can be said for fucking every game, and yes as well for Saya which is only+2 compared to C;H

btw Noah seems getting much better scores :3
I HOPE THE FAGS WILL STILL WORK ON IT. COME ON, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THEY WILL REALLY STOP. DON'T MAKE ME A SAD PANDA

>> No.2916662

If you guys insist then I take my mediocre statement back. I didn't know you guys think it was exceptionally great to be frank.
It was only my personal opinion, however we all know that "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks".

But anyway would you guys spend NEET-money on it, if JAST would localize C;H after already playing through at least once?

>> No.2916669

>>2916615
Well...

>>2916484
>Popular does not mean good. Even though I'm one of those people who liked it.
>>2916507
>That's not just english VNs. However >>2916484

These people simply kind of missed that rankings on erogamescape is actually made of oppinions of how good people found the games to be and not how popular they are.

>>2916504
>Being the 14th most popular VN available in English isn't really saying much IMO
>>2916517
>Yes, vndb also has a lot of VNs not available in English, but given that vndb's userbase consists mostly of people who don't read Japanese, the top positions in the list will in practice always be the VNs that are available in English. All 13 games above C;H are such VNs.

I mearly pointed out that it had good scores on erogamescape as well wich isn't an english community.


>What the fuck is your problem? Nobody (except that one guy, who probably wasn't even any of the posts you replied to) is saying that C;H is _mediocre
>is saying that C;H is _mediocre

You know that i never implied that they were.

>What the fuck is your problem?
I don't know what mine is but you seem to have some yourself.

>> No.2916683

I would buy a Noah PC port

>> No.2916702

>>2916669
>i never implied that they were

Replying to those people with "the majority of people found it to be [...] not mediocre" did contain such an implication as far as I could see, but whatever man.

>> No.2916729

>And I understand that the original is better. Hell, any form of media in its original language is intrinsically superior to any translation.

The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam anyone? There are plenty of examples to the contrary

>> No.2916779

Calm down pals, noah will be.

>> No.2916791

>>2916702
>"the majority of people found it to be [...] not mediocre"

That was me implying that it was not mediocre, not me implying that anyone else implied that it was.

You shouldn't be so quick to reach conclusions, it could hurt you in the future.

>> No.2916803

Appeal to popularity. Always a fun one.

>> No.2916818

>>2916779
Any source on that? It seems a bit odd that they don't port the Japanese version at all to PC, but they'd port it in english to the West only. Additionally (as far as I can remember) all of JAST'S titles contained H-content, which means C;H Noah would be the first non-ero if they'd port it and localize it.

>> No.2916823

>>2916729

It's a little unfair to call that a translation. Some big liberties were taken.

>> No.2916835

>>2916818
Trust me, this is confirmed.

>> No.2916843

>>2916835
>Trust me
Why should I?

>> No.2916846

>>2916843
In that case you are free to think what you like.

>> No.2916852 [DELETED] 

Tinfoil and moogy are applying flawless logic. By removing their own (well, they weren't translators, but...) translations, they are reducing the number of copies of the game that would be pirated and increasing the number that will be bought.

Seriously, jesus christ. What the fuck. Why? It achieves nothing.

>> No.2916856

Now what the hell is going on for real, give us some leads already on which projects in particular might have a more likely chance of getting youknowwhatImean

>> No.2916868

>>2916852
Appearently they were contacted by either Jast or Nitroplus. They can't give out details, lots of people are involved, complicated stuff, etc.

>> No.2916877

I left /jp/ for a few days and shits happens. perfect

>> No.2916878

>>2916846
I'd be more than happy to trust you my friend, but unfortunately it's a wee bit hard to imagine for the above reasons I mentioned, and without any (even a vague) announcement from none of the affected sides.

I honestly hope they'd adapt Noah, but I still dislike that Jast insisted on finishing all N+ related fantranslations. Not to be persistent, but I just have a hard time imagining that they would adapt all the removed titles sooner or later.

>> No.2916895

I'd like to note that none of us have said anything about the translations actually being stopped.

All we have done is taken down pages.

That's as close to a statement as you'll get for now.

>> No.2916907

Yeah, it is kinda fun that everyone decided everything without asking actual translators/staff members.

>> No.2916919

>>2916895
You sold yourself
How is that statement?

>> No.2916927

>>2916895
Well fair enough I guess. That's still better hearing that, than the "Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games" nonsense repeatedly. It's not hard to see that we are imagining the worse after seeing that spammed.

>> No.2916939

Yeah so which games are more likely to "not being stopped" in the near future?

>> No.2916945

Anyway, this faggotry will certainly not make me support JAST USA.

Waiting two years for Family Project was bullshit enough already.

>> No.2916954

>>2916945
Like I care about you supporting JAST. Just get the fuck out of here whiny faggot.

>> No.2916981

>>2916945
So because G-Collections didn't release a quite mediocre game you won't support JAST USA at all?

>> No.2916985

>>2916954
FFFF first betraying anonymous and then acting all bitchy on anonymous imageboards. That's why transfags actually suck dicks

>> No.2916993

>>2916895
All that fagging around with Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games! is sure as hell not going to make me buy any games.
A clear answer to the matter in hand is needed right now.

>> No.2916997

>>2916981
He won't support it anyway because he is so kewl and edgy.

>>2916985
Who said I was transfag? I'm just pissed at lack of your brains. Stop make this shitty bord even more shitty and just get out.

>> No.2917025

>Stop make this shitty bord even more shitty
not possible faggot

>> No.2917104

>>2916907
How do you know that? I bet all the important involved staff members, like the translators all know about it.

>> No.2917112

Stop bumping this shit.

>> No.2917128

>>2917112

>> No.2917165

>>2917128
Faggot >>2915029

>> No.2917640

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