/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>28507248
On another note, after 407 days the MTA team has also released update 1.5.8 (previously meant to be 1.6!). Not a whole lot new in terms of scripting features, but they've listed about 70 bugs fixed inclusding various memory leaks that were present. I've been keeping an eye on their GitHub page also and it seems like they're diverting some manpower specifically towards keeping YouTube working smoothly interestingly enough. Although given their general slow pace in things it could be anywhere between 5 months to a year before we actually see something come of it, it's worth noting nonetheless for those who like movie nights.

And on the topic of movies - the YouTube script as you may know can be notoriously janky, so I've been fiddling around with the concept of alternatives. This is a little proof-of-concept screenshot taken in-game using CyTube. If someone were to say, have difficulties watching in-game or were otherwise unable to join in-game you could just alt-tab to the actual website and watch it there instead of having to sit it out entirely, as they're synced. It also supports cross-communication. Just a floated concept I've played around with a bit, it'd need some work before it's smoothed-out. Movie nights can be a bit rare anyways so it may not be worth the work, but I'm always open to suggestions or alternatives. I've been a bit under the weather myself so you'll have to pardon the small update, but I do have a fun little thing or two for Halloween too.

>>28507248
yay, it's back at last!
>This is a little proof-of-concept screenshot taken in-game using CyTube. If someone were to say, have difficulties watching in-game or were otherwise unable to join in-game you could just alt-tab to the actual website and watch it there instead of having to sit it out entirely, as they're synced. It also supports cross-communication. Just a floated concept I've played around with a bit, it'd need some work before it's smoothed-out
thanks for your hard work, I was worried about the cinema thing not working anymore, apparently youtube changed something in their end that broke it.

>>28507340
Nice! Thank you for this! Also looking forward to the server again after a long time!

By the way, is this time >>28507248 before or after daylight savings?

>>28507340
Shame that cool feature like the youtube script is they way it is. It's really neat and simple when it does work. Cant be helped really, but thanks for looking into alternative solution even it takes long time.
Hopefully 1.5.8 does more good than bad for us specifically.

Here are 4 skins for I rigged Halloween. It's not really Halloween themed, but skins we did not have nonetheless.
https://mega.nz/file/7hsQRJzD#eD_Ds1SxRiAOQf8PMhnlpUgjfAVBBTfqz40iFmZqMeA

Also 2 new car skins if you missed from the end of the last thread.
https://mega.nz/file/m8lXVIBB#GKPu1hPM6Kk0_FS-JIMJ33XjO2sNuHUMvum4AWoC8fc..

>>28507853
YouTube still works, but it's unreliable at best. The old version from about a year ago that was the most reliable used YouTube TV, but sadly Google made changes to what devices are able to access it which unfortunately killed any scripting support for it. Reintegrating support for it is what the MTA team is actually trying to work on right now. The current player is a regular YouTube embed which is why it can be a little jank.

While it's not terribly important given how infrequent it is, I don't like having people sit out, would rather have a slightly unorthodox workaround so you can at least still participate until there's a more concrete solution other than leave people out of it entirely.

>>28508989
EST hasn't set its clocks back yet, so if you're in a timezone where it's already changed you might want to adjust accordingly.

>>28510118
These are great, thank you for the models anon!

>>28534512
No big map update for today, just a little bit of Halloween decoration for this run https://www.mediafire.com/file/iuklh88x8of13t4/HALLOWMAP.rar/file

>>28549494
Added to the server. Thanks!

The server will be up in just a moment. There's a two-part pre-download today!:
https://mega.nz/file/748E3a5Q#bG4oou0PkkbQQ_TfWBFDSfRpIjzdpdy83lK1iYp0qvw
and
https://mega.nz/file/XhkQCajZ#9kIEn_gTJri0SQIqK5X1bs0yd_4DMyWQhlWwAAnDb9Y

>>28550426
And she's up. Problems sure to abound!

Name: /jp/dream
Pass: Meido
IP: 71.68.68.158

TO REGISTER: Type a username and password and then hit register. Then login.

>>28550573
And that's a wrap for tonight. Happy Halloween, and I hope you guys had fun! I didn't notice until just now, but sadly looks like my screenshot key has started going bad. Hopefully somebody else actually got a few good shots of those group pictures.

>>28570622
Happy Halloween.

huge Sacchan!

>>28570780
Small Daichan!

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>>28570780
Did Sacchan got a new model?

>>28576616
She did!

I will be hosting a multiplayer 2hu Dominions 5 game starting next week. It is a turn-based strategy game somewhat similar to Civilization. If you're interested, please read this detailed pastebin here:

https://pastebin.com/uhs3pgbt

The game will be Play-By-Email format. Dropbox will be used as a hub to host the game file, and so that players can upload their turns directly there.

The 2hu factions available are based on every mainline game starting from EoSD to WBaWC, plus 1 extra Hakurei Shrine faction featuring Reimu, Marisa and the three fairies. In total, there are 12 available factions, and since players are not allowed the same factions, there are also 12 player slots. Details on how to reserve a faction for yourself are in the pastebin. (let's not flood the thread; please do not post it here)

Why starting next week? Because I assume for most, it will be the first time they've heard of Dominions 5, and so I leave this week as time for you to get acquainted with the faction you like, as well as the basic game mechanics. It's quite a complex game. It's also very fun even on single player, so yeah.

I will try and add as many tips as I can at the bottom of the pastebin to help you on your feet, especially with the more obscure mechanics.

>>28534512
>>28597985
Speaking of which. I fixed her model (and one of hidden ones, had the same issue). She had something funny going with her bones, but it should be fine now.
Replace the skins with newer ones here: https://mega.nz/file/L59URLqR#ETwqFwuxyufKyH4ePutwpLVJMiyx55lEOsFzvQmctpI

>>28608891
Sounds fun!

>>28608891
I'm not sure if it was just me but just in case, if the game asks you for a CD-Key when you install, try writing 1111-1111-1111-1111-111 if you're on Windows.
Also after you install the mods, enable them in Mods at the main menu.

>>28631123
Ah, thanks. I forgot to write out this one. I'll add it to the pastebin too.

>>28550426
The old outdated map is still in the file, if you delete the "MAPJP" folder from it (and the server too) it'll shave about 400mb off the pre-download.

>>28507248
you need a fresh copy of the game right?
does mta work with any version of SA or is it specific?

>>28823139
Version 1.0

The 2hu dominions 5 game >>28608891 will be hosted starting tomorrow.

If you wish to join, send in your faction pick, as as well as your pretender god to the email address listed in the pastebin under "IV. How to play by email" section. If you've already sent your faction pick, send your pretender god file based on the instructions in the pastebin. Better to send in your faction pick first before your God so I can inform you if your pick is already taken. If you have any questions, feel free to mail them in as well.

The absolute cutoff time for joining is around 6AM EST of Nov. 9th.

Once the game starts, I will invite all players to the shared dropbox where the savefile will be hosted. New players cannot join midgame.

Initial deadline of turns will be 2 days or 48 hours each turn. This can be adjusted by the players once the game is in progress. Generally, once every player has taken their turn and uploaded to the dropbox, the next turn will be generated, so the real turn rotation would likely be faster.

>>28868414
I'll try my best!

>>28868414
>>28608891
Game joining is now closed.

>>28608891
I completely missed this.

>>28936631
Actually, one of the joiners haven't sent in their God yet and we're waiting for a few days for them to do so. If you can send in your God within that time, you can still join in.

>>28943672
Ok.
>>28608891
>The game will be Play-By-Email format.
That's the first I've heard of that.
>Dropbox will be used as a hub to host the game file, and so that players can upload their turns directly there.
Is there a limit on how much you can do?

>>28994377
Play by email is an old-timey way of playing turn-based games with others. The concept is, you all play in a pseudo-single player savefile with all slots played by humans and you pass the savefile around to everyone once you've done your turn.

>Is there a limit on how much you can do?
I don't know what you mean by a limit. If you mean is there a limit to the number of players, theoretically, no, but since factions cannot be duplicated, there are only ~12 player slots max, representing all the 2hu factions provided by the mod.

Forgot about it, but here is a partial playlist of the movies we watched during the Halloween run.

Remi and Flan at home alone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2T0lsLUyss
Zashiki Warashi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HcdXl5wU1o
The Sixteenth Night Fate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-w_O6fZYU

Those and some older ones here, if you missed out - https://pastebin.com/t9CrcRsi

>>28943672
this is the joiner that didnt send their god in, my email broke so I was unable (or too lazy) to send a notification that I dropped out, so please do take my place

>>28608891
The game has started. Game joining is now closed for real.

>>28868414
>Initial deadline of turns will be 2 days or 48 hours each turn.
Sounds like it's going to be a long game. GL

Will the server be up this weekend?

>>28510118
>Cant be helped really, but thanks for looking into alternative solution even it takes long time.
How did GTA IV-V do the Theatre stuff?
I know something as old as SA is different fundamentally, but there might be a way.

>>29129936
um... is admin anon still here?

>>29129936
The server will be up tomorrow, Sunday, at around 7 or PM EST! I might drop off for a bit after this week though.

>>29158056
>How did GTA IV-V do the Theatre stuff?
Do those have YouTube/internet cinemas? I've not played the multiplayer modules for either, so I couldn't say. What the server uses though is CEF, which creates a unique localized browser instance drawn every second on the client for each player when they enter the cinema. If the way I've described it makes sense, you might notice something wrong with that sentence. If each player has a unique local instance of a certain website drawn on their own individual client, how is it synced to everyone? The answer is, it isn't. Rather it's actually some trickery to create the illusion of sync. YouTube has the convenient ability for a URL to be made to link to any point in a video. Every time a video is linked in the cinema, a timer is started on the server. When you enter the cinema interior, the time kept by the server is appended to the YouTube URL pulled by your client, which creates the illusion of a synchronized video playing for everyone. This is why when an ad plays it'll fall out of time, but reentering fixes it. You can jury rig methods for other websites to create this illusion as well, though.

There's also the issue of pop-ups and other intrusions that need to be clicked to remove them, or actually even see the video as you can't do so manually due to the way the video is rendered. These issues are only present for some. Sadly as each rendered instance is unique it's very difficult for me to probe potential solutions as I can't test it myself. All in all it's not an easy challenge to tackle, most things relating to CEF aren't. It's probably my least favorite thing to work with due to the inherent nature of it.

>>29186695
Nope. He's gone for good.

>>29192138
>Nope. He's gone for good.
those dreamlike days will never come again...

>>29192138
>If the way I've described it makes sense, you might notice something wrong with that sentence.
Yeah, I kinda winced just reading it now. I don't know how a solution can be put to action if you can't test it yourself.

>>29186695
The Endless Break incident.

>>29192138
Looking forward to it!

>>29192138
waiting warmly

The server will be up briefly! No big updates today, so anything that's downloaded in-game should be extremely small. If you've not joined before, or otherwise need it for any reason, you can still grab the halloween update from >>28550426

>>29240501
The server is now up. Something will surely go wrong!

Name: /jp/dream
Pass: Meido
IP: 71.68.68.158

TO REGISTER: Type a username and password and then hit register. Then login.

>>29240844
I joined for a minute but then lost connection to the server.

>>29240844
strange, I'm getting connection timeout

>>29240844
I as well am getting connection time outs, at least it's not just me

>>29240844
Also the sever is visible on the public list fyi.

>>29240954
>>29240964
>>29241005
The nice thing about expecting the worst will happen is it it's not surprising when it does! Had a BSOD several seconds after starting. Mild suspicion it's another HDD going bad even though I just got this thing a year ago. Have to check for bad sectors on it when I get the chance.

>>29241102
Not a whole lot I can do about that I'm afraid. With the infrequency it's hosted, and password protection I'm not too worried about it though. There's already a billion other servers hosted at any given time.

>>29240844
>>29241341
I crashed and I can't seem to log in anymore.

>>29254234
Are you getting an error, stuck, or just flat out CTDing?

thank you for the fun times!

Thanks for hosting!

That's all for tonight dudes. Hope it was fun!

I believe someone asked for the url of wave radio when we were playing, couldn't get the chance to respond: http://stream.waveani.me:5470/mount

>>29240954
>>29240964
>>29241005
I didn't join, but I think there were a lot of timeouts yesterday. I don't really know why or the reason behind it since all it took for me to fix it was a simple run of the troubleshoot.

I plan on hosting DOOM this friday at 4 pm PST, around the standard time other events are hosted
I will post the files as we approach that time

>>29364524
>DOOM
Which one?

>>29240331
where is that from?

for DOOM we will be playing a wad called community chest, here it is
http://a.pomf.cat/rcsygx.zip
we'll be using a gameplay wad called complex doom, with some customization made by a resident anon, here it is
http://a.pomf.cat/jlgrga.zip
also I've wised up and put the instructions to set up doom from scratch in a pastebin, here it is
https://pastebin.com/5Eqbwyu2

>>29398688
doom 2
>>29429913
touhou diablo - treasure hunter G

>>29463036
I guess it can't hurt to ask if there's anyone here who knows DOOM modding well, to see if there's a better way of handling skins for complex doom. Ideally we'd want to be able to ignore the unique classes for each weapon that changes the skin, and use our own skins instead. As of now the edit is a sprite change to turn each weapon skin into a Touhou girl, which means every time you switch weapon you turn into a different girl. I'm not smart enough to figure out a better way of approaching it, so that's the best I could do.

I wouldn't be object to playing vanilla gameplay if other anons would rather play as a specific girl.

the doom server is UP
name: meidoom
pass: meido

Those are some amazing 2hu models, too bad l4d2 only has a very small collection of them

>>29485279
hit up that IP son

lookin for dem pwads

http://a.pomf.cat/adwkre.zip
here are the wads in case you dont have them

the doom server has been concluded

>>29504528
thanks host

>>29504528
It was fun

sa-mp > mta all day

>>29463652
>touhou diablo - treasure hunter G
I think I remember that one. Is that the one where you had options to do various things? I can't remember the thread but IIRC, 36 or something said something like hug her or something along those lines.

>>29585559
wait, no. I think that was something else

I know we have barely done gang wars lately, but what would everyone think about changing the location of it?
We have been in LS for more than a year now, so maybe we could switch to SF, or the desert (like some people were saying earlier this year).

>>29601905
Desert would be nice. But I think the prerequisite for an enjoyable gang wars is the availability of valuable pickups "we can fight for" in and around the territories, which is what I think makes LS and countryside wars more fun than the SF one.

>>29258769
Lolianon finna Yamamoto them

>>29602874
pls keep crossboarder lingo in other boards

>>29541491
Why? Isn't sa-mp dead?

>>29541491
>>29618262
There's no real reason to use SAMP over MTA. MTA offers many more advanced functions and tools for scripting than what SAMP offers, and given the (at-times) ambitious scope of this project that's pretty important. The major pro of course being that MTA utilizes lua allowing for a lot of possibilities, whereas SAMP uses Pawn which is simpler and pretty limited in what it's capable of. Just to drive that point home - MTA has a working emulator for SAMP scripts. So you could technically run anything for SAMP on this server as well. It's a bit unoptimized and with my major dementia about that it likely won't see use, since anything worthwhile could just be remade in lua to run a bit better anyways.
Point is from a technical perspective MTA is by far the better choice no matter how you look at it.

SAMP has a much larger playerbase overall than MTA though, as I recall, which is it's main selling point - it's easy to get into and easy to make content for, but you're limited in what you can do. MTA is relatively more niche. Player counts are of course completely irrelevant to us though so it's an easy choice to make between the two. Furthermore SAMP is closed-source, and their dev team are purportedly terrible ego-trippers from what I've heard.

Not to trail on, but I feel like I get asked about this frequently in-game, don't think I've ever given a comprehensive answer about why we use MTA over SAMP. The simple fact is MTA's vast range of functions along with lua allow us to be very creative in what's made and things are only getting better with time. There's even an SCM (language used for GTA missions) interpreter in the works right now which might one day allow us to play through the actual GTASA campaign co-op.

>>29633842
>There's even an SCM (language used for GTA missions) interpreter in the works right now which might one day allow us to play through the actual GTASA campaign co-op.
I might get into SCM scripting so we can have co-op Gensokyo missions

>>29633842
>There's even an SCM (language used for GTA missions) interpreter in the works right now which might one day allow us to play through the actual GTASA campaign co-op.
Sounds absolutely amazing.

>>29633842
>Furthermore SAMP is closed-source
Stingy.

>, and their dev team are purportedly terrible ego-trippers from what I've heard.
Story? I just want the facts so no trouble arises.

>>29689450
I don't really know how pertinent it is, so I'll try to keep it brief:

Kalcor (the creator of SAMP) was at one point actually part of the MTA team. For some reason or another he branched off from them and started work on his own project which is now known as SAMP. At one point in time, from what I've heard, he was a very hard worker, though he eventually became bitter towards his own playerbase. You'd get banned for incessant things on the forums (the mere mention of MTA or disagreement of how something was handled was enough for a ban).

About a year ago, he mentioned SAMP was a dead project and would likely only receive security updates from that point on. A handful of it's contributors who were sick of the way he ran things and his refusal to do anything meaningful with the source code by this point (such as handing it off to someone else on the team who would actually continue to support it) decided to desert, and formed Open.mp. which is an in-development open-source alternative to SAMP which will offer backwards compatibility. Notably, the announcement of this project was basically one big rant about the way SAMP was handled. In retribution, Kalcor decided to start stripping out the functionalities those members had contributed to SAMP out of spite. He also threatened to delete the official forums. Which, as of about a month ago, it would appear they did - along with deleting the wiki that existed that explained a lot of the scripting functionalities. It would appear they've also blocked the forums domain on waybackmachine so you can't even view any old posts anymore. I'd also heard accusations that they took some of MTA's source as well, but the only proof of that is on their forums - which are now lost to time.

Basically - drama. There's two sides to every story, but all I know is I'd be right miffed if our scripts broke or we otherwise lost functionalities because of some intercommunity fighting that is in no way relating to the server.

>>29719954
>You'd get banned for incessant things on the forums (the mere mention of MTA or disagreement of how something was handled was enough for a ban).
>About a year ago, he mentioned SAMP was a dead project and would likely only receive security updates from that point on.
>He also threatened to delete the official forums. Which, as of about a month ago, it would appear they did - along with deleting the wiki that existed that explained a lot of the scripting functionalities. It would appear they've also blocked the forums domain on waybackmachine so you can't even view any old posts anymore.
What a waste.
The GTA community can be toxic, but you have to be special to genuinely get ticked off about it.
Just from what I'm reading, a proper team would have mitigated most of his problems. Then again, I don't follow that stuff so who knows.

>>29731938
Indeed. It's honestly rather tragic, neither side are particular saints here. Most of the open.mp team, especially it's founder, were apparently quite close to him. The only reason they made the announcement when they did was because they were trying to get some Russians on board and got ratted out. Their original plan was to coordinate it's development - for what they call a better SAMP, through some Discord in secret until it's planned playable release - all the while pretending to be besties with the guy still. They actually mention this much in the announcement post.

Such surreptitious plans are just dirty. It doesn't excuse his fit, but his frustration that some of his more trusted members had been organizing a practical coup against him while still pretending to be on ship with the project is pretty understandable (especially considering the guy's been supporting the thing for a decade, albeit slowly).

Real shame, can't help but wonder if there could've been an alternate solution to things. The "screw it, we'll start our own from scratch" just leads to wasted time reinventing the wheel.

>>29736299
I feel like rambling on a bit, so speaking of development, MTA also has some interesting history. During the early years MTA actually had insiders from Rockstar North who they would contact if they had particular difficulties with something, and they'd actually share small snips of code to help things along. Most of it was just header files and the like, though. But it was never in any official capacity, and once the whole Hot Coffee debacle came to light all their contacts had started going silent.

I didn't know that. It's so cool.

>>29737604
I didn't know that. Really cool.

>>29737604
huh, that's nice.
>>29736299
>Real shame, can't help but wonder if there could've been an alternate solution to things. The "screw it, we'll start our own from scratch" just leads to wasted time reinventing the wheel.
Huh.
True. I probably should have asked for the full story from the get go. I guess scorched earth is the way to go when dealing with snakes dealing behind your back.

>>28507248
Nice stuff.