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Reagan is a faggot.

Matoko is an independent.

But secretly she yearns for the companionship that comes along with joining a party.

Don't blame me. I voted Libertarian.

I've been meaning to post that since I first saw it but never got around to it. Thanks.

>>2846811
Was. He's dead, you know.

Naruto christians and Idol Master politics.

Is there anything you americans will not fuck over?

>>2846820
She's poor, she's a democrat.

>>2846842
These were drawn by a Jap.

Huh, I'd have pegged Chihaya as a Republican.

Still, at least she chose right.

>>2846842
I did not know Americans invented party politics.

>>2846820
i think Yayoi is a pretty cool girl, seh kills locust and doesnt afraid of anything.
But she's a good girl, so she'd never vote Libertarian.

I'd stimulate Chihaya, if you know what I mean.

>But she's a good girl, so she'd never vote Libertarian.

I don't know much about politics, but why do people label "good" and "bad" things that are subjective? Obviously someone joins a party when they think that it's the best thing for the country, not because it's the worst. When I hear people argue politics it feels like everyone tries to villainize or make the other look stupid.
Why I'm saying this on 4chan I don't know.

Read my lips: No new blowjobs.

>>2846891
Because often, people don't see them as subjective.

For example, a Libertarian would argue that the New Deal disproved economic stimuli as a measure to improve the economy over the long term, leading to anyone who thinks otherwise as being objectively flawed in their view of history. The opposite holds for someone who think the New Deal proved government intervention can work.

>>2846891
Oh shit you're right.

>>2846891
It's easier to vote for your chosen party if you dehumanize the other parties, since at the end of the day they're all the same anyway.
Kind of like war, I guess.

I'd guess most American /jp/ voters register as embittered independents.

>>2846930
There seems to be a surprising amount of Republicans on 4chan. I'm guessing the same holds true for /jp/.

>>2846935
>surprising amounts

1 Republican is surprising enough for you. Quit being a moron.

>>2846907
Makes sense, I suppose.
I don't really believe that someone like me would know the first thing about what's best for national and global situations, so I don't really like to argue. (self esteem issues or self awareness?)

>>2846946
All that means is that you aren't an opinionated faggot. Being able to realise you're not that knowledgable about something is a good thing and something very few in political disucssions can do.

I hate politics. I wouldn't care if I lived in a dictatorship and couldn't vote, as long as I could just stay in my apartment and play eroge.

>>2846965
This is the ideal mindset we should all strive to attain.

>>2846978
Apathy is hardly ideal.

>>2846965
Yeah, and this government would tell you what job to do so you don't have to decide on your own so you wouldn't technically be a NEET anymore.

>>2846965

Fine, but Big Brother watches you fap.

Do Japanese versions of 1984 call Big Brother oniichan or something else?

I'm politically apathetic. The polling station is a 1 minute walk from my house but I stayed in doors and read Clannad last election day.

>>2846986
Holy shit. That is a great question.

>>2846986
>Oniichan watches you fap
Hmmm, it just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Australia, one of the only countries where not voting is actually illegal.

I'm still unsure whether or not I like it.

>>2846847
I just said Libertarian because she had a big gun. Though it pains me to associate my waifu with such vermin, she probably would be a Democrat. Eugh.

*hits Yayoi*

>>2846986
I imagine they just use katakana to approximate the English name.

>Though it pains me to associate my waifu with such vermin
Enjoying your self-destructing party, Anon?

>>2847000
I believe that's what they did. Someone posted scans of the Japanese version of the book sometime ago.

>>2846985
I work, which is why I said 'apartment', but I don't care for any of the high-social-pressure jobs where your performance is constantly evaluated and you have to continually retrain. I tried working in a call center and I couldn't handle it.

I like having the same job, the same hours, the same pay, every day. I think any anon can sympathize with a routine.

I honestly wouldn't care if the government told me where to work, as long as they told me nothing would change. That way I can work all day and play eroge in the evenings and weekends.

I like stability and routine.

>>2847003
I don't have a party you silly goose. Crazy as it may seem, we are often given more than two choices, and the best one may vary from position to position and time to time.

Democrats are never the best choice though. Sorry.

>>2847003

Eh. Both parties go through cycles of self-destruction and rebirth. I remember how eight years ago people were proclaiming the death of the Democratic Party, and now they're proclaiming the death of the Republican Party, and I wonder if everyone had their fucking minds erased sometime in between.

>>2847025
Exactly two parties matter in the US.

I'll sit here and enjoy the long overdue progression to a UHC system, the economy beginning to recover in 2010 thanks to Obama's fiscal policy, and greatly improved foreign relations with the US.

>>2847015

You get to work, but it's in the gulag, and you have to share the PC with other inmates and no one can find the CD key for the eroge. No internet, either.

>>2847033
As long as the dems win in 2012 I couldn't care less. If they've fucked up so bad that they can't win after O-man's second term, they deserve to be kicked out on their asses.

>>2846997
It's not really illegal, they just fine you a small amount of money if you are on the register and don't get signed off at your local poll on the day.

If you never registered in the first place you don't have to vote, but these days in college they have a day where electoral commission people come to school and everyone has to sign up, so it's kinda hard to get out of it unless you are sick that day.

Also, it's not like we have lines in Australia, when I voted in the last Federal election the only people at the polling area were me and like 10 other people (most of whom were the electoral people).

I just want a Shadowrun/Armored Core 4 world just to see a lot of you fags squirming. Granted, I would be fucked too but whatever.

>>2847045
I live in Tasmania. I can't imagine a line forming at any of the poll stations near me.

Also the polling station is two minute's walk away. I'm just not sure compulsory voting is really the best way to ensure a good outcome, as it forced politically apathetic people to vote for people they don't know shit about.

>>2847041
>>2847034
because Obama is the messiah incarnate right?

>>2847060
Nah. I've disagreed with some of the shit he's done so far (ex-RIAA lawyers in important positions, buckling on FISA, being wishy-washy on healthcare reform, etc). I just think he's doing, overall, a good job.

politics thread

>>2847041
Obama's already changed his promise to taxing only the top FIFTY percent of Americans.

That did not go well when Bush Sr. did it (one term president) and it won't go well when Obama does it.

>>2847055
Oh wow, I think you have just confirmed to me that alot of people on /a/ and /jp/ are ausfags.

Tassie is nice, I remember going on a holiday when I was younger. Hobart is like a smaller version of a Melbourne, except with decent public transport and less graffiti.

>>2847055
a government trying to coerce its people to vote is absolutely wrong. the purpose of any government ought to be to protect the rights of and (for most mainstreamers) serve its people. if someone has no opinion on an election or has not studied the candidates and issues at hand, he shouldn't be made to vote. even if someone has but he has no interest in it he shouldn't be made to. if you're of the batshit watered-down anarchist persuasion (...i am ;_;) and you see a government as little more than a monopolized racket and you don't want to give it your consent by voting, you really shouldn't be made to.

>>2847079
My god, somebody actually said something nice about Tasmania. My hat is off to you.

I do like living here, though the internet prices are kind of... not really nice. $100 a month for 100GB at 8mb/s is annoying.

>>2847075
I don't see taxes as the boogyman many seem to. I'd also note that he still has a way to go before hitting Clinton levels, which were hardly high. People are just used to Bush's "people love tax cuts so we'll give them some, even though we can't afford it" mentality.

>>2847088
Internet in Australia is the same price everywhere bro, but yeah it sucks, my plan is the same as yours though I believe. But I've never managed to go through 100gb in a month, I spend most of my time on /jp/ and on visual novels, I don't download much anime, I'd probably need an external hd if I did.

Stand by for 100mbit optical though in the year 3100 or whenever the hell they do it.

>>2847106
Rollout of the NBN in Tasmania starts in July, thanks to our government putting forward a tender earlier.

Fuck yeah.

>>2847110
Interesting, what are the government charging for it? Do you have to live near an exchange to be eligible?

>>2847123
No idea on pricing yet. It's being rolled out to the metro exchanges first, then spread further out. Looks like I'll be within the very first exchange being hooked up.

That said, I'm really worried that they'll put some stupid data cap on the pricing plans, like 10Gb or something.

Obama has gone against most of what he said he would NOT do in office. This new health care reform? Enjoy paying back the one trillion dollars it will cost over the next 10 years. It'll all trickle down and taxes will skyrocket. This new health care reform is also a "gonna fuck you over" from the Democrats. It's kinda worrisome when the plan applies to everyone in the US except for the members of congress......they'll be exempt from the changes. Oh goodie. That's Democrats for you. The only thing they know how to do is make new laws. And if the laws they make don't do shit or end up making things worse then by god, we'll make more fucking laws!!!!

Obama to me is also WAY to fucking timid and has some sort of infatuation with himself. He's all talk and no action. People are getting tired of it. People were bitching and moaning about Bush when the unemployment was 4.6%. Look now Obama is our savior fags, it's fixing to hit 10%.

We need another World War to jump start our economy. Hell it worked when WWII came around after The Great Depression.

Republicans = We need top cut down on taxes to ease up on the working man in these tough times.

Democrat = Fuck that shit nigger. We need to fix an already flawed economy by taxing the fucking shit out of everyone to pump money into it and make millions of new fucking laws to go with it!

With wall street in near shambles, how will new laws and restrictions change or help anything?

>>2847138
yes, thousands of people getting murdered is ok if it gives the economy a boost

>He's all talk and no action. People are getting tired of it.
Uh...

>People were bitching and moaning about Bush when the unemployment was 4.6%. Look now Obama is our savior fags, it's fixing to hit 10%.
The economic crisis started before Obama took office. Blaming this shit on him is just retarded.

However, this said I will agree that he's been lightfooted so far. It hasn't been very long, but his waffling on healthcare and lobbyist waivers are disconcerting.

Also the new healthcare reform includes an OPTIONAL public insurance plan, with people's preexisting plans untouched. Where the fuck are you getting this "dems will be exempt" thing from, too? Also, the CBO estimate doesn't take into account savings, given that significant portions of the existing healthcare system are flying towards a cliff right now.

When every other first-world nation spends less of their GDP on healthcare and covers many more of their citizens through UHC programs, it makes the US look strange.

I think the economy was going to go to shit no matter who did what or who was in office. It's like a cycle. You have oh say 30 good years of economic stability and then it slowly starts to go to shit but then levels out and eventually gets better again. Then the cycle starts back over.

>>2847094
We are currently experiencing a recession. Ignoring for a moment the root causes of the recession, it is generally a bad idea to raise taxes in the middle of one. That means you need to find other ways of raising capital, or cut spending. For the time being, the government has decided to continue to borrow money from foreign central banks to fund its programs, but that relationship cannot last forever; eventually those banks will stop buying treasury bonds. If that happens, the only way to make up the difference between expenditures and revenues would be to print money, thus devaluing all paper assets (and foreign debts).

The best idea would be to simply not collect taxes for FY 2009, cut spending along a list of priorities, and let the markets fix themselves without any more intrusion by government.

>>2847138

Europe, Canada, and even gloroius Nippon is able to run universal health care without costing taxpayers an arm an a leg. The economy became shit BEFORE Obama took office.

You need to stop watching Fox News.

>>2847158
Play to win pussy. When you go to war, the only thing on your mind (the President) should be to conquer that country at whom you're with war against. It does not matter how many people are killed, civilian or not. Go in there, kill everything, and take over that country. That is your goal. You're not there to kill bad guys and save everyone. You're there to fucking win. And you ain't going to win if you're concerned about civilian casualties.

>>2847168
>The best idea would be to simply not collect taxes for FY 2009,
And bankrupt the government.
>cut spending along a list of priorities,
At a time when America is already lagging behind many other countries in services such as healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc.
>and let the markets fix themselves without any more intrusion by government.
Because that's worked so well since Reagan.

>>2847159
the "optional" program is being designed with the idea of driving private providers out of business. if congress hadn't gone stupid and offered tax incentives for employers to do health care in the first place maybe we'd have something approaching a competitive healthcare market instead of this bizarroland of 3rd-party insurers

>>2847176
But does that mean he needs to make it worse by reforming health care which will cost trillions?

Most people in the US are satisfied with the health care plan they have now. Obama wants the government to be the one providing it. Enjoy paying an arm and a leg for it. Oh, and Obama said not to worry, if you like your old HC plan you can keep it.

BULLSHIT.

>>2847184
The real world is not a computer strategy game. This shit is why the world hated the US during Bush's terms and has come to significantly lighten up during Obama's.

>>2847168
>>let the markets fix themselves without any more intrusion by government.

Great philosophy you have there. If only we could refer to a point in time in which a "hands-off" approach worked well during an economic collapse. Oh wait, you can't.

>>2847184
you're just giddy at the idea, aren't you?

>>2847199
Repeat after me: Every other first-world nation has UHC. Every other first-world nation pays LESS of their GDP for it.

>>2847166
The economy is not magic. Government policy encouraged moral hazard, and the result was malinvestment on a massive scale. The recession was predictable and thus preventable.

>>2847199
>>Most people in the US are satisfied with the health care plan they have now.

Oh look, more Fox News drivel.

Most people pay more for private health insurance. You also conveniently forgot the millions of Americans without health care.

You want to pay less for health care, cut out the middle-man.

>>2847206
because you don't get complete economic collapses when the government doesn't try manipulating the economy, like 1921

and before you say '29 the reason unemployment went to 25% is because hoover froze wages and businesses couldn't afford to keep employees. or '08 when what started as congress "loosening up credit" to make buying homes easier got blamed on "predatory lenders"

>>2847159
>dems will be exempt

Dems and Union workers would be exempt from it. Your health package, your benefits package from your job would be counted as income and you'd pay income tax on it. However, but the union workers who helped Democrats win Congress and the White House and whose support will be key in getting a health bill signed into law would not pay the tax.

You know sometimes these politics threads try to stay on topic by mentioning Japan every once in a while, but this thread is blatantly off topic.

Go to /r9k/ if you want to talk about the two faces of the same coin.

>>2847190
>And bankrupt the government.
well then they had better cut spending, or be prepared to borrow to cover costs

>America is already lagging behind many other countries in services such as healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc.
strawman

>Because that's worked so well since Reagan.
community reinvestment act

>>2847202
>significantly lighten up during Obama's.

You mean make us look like pussy's.

>>2847226
You're saying this because you know I'm right. Fucking Democrat human fucking garbage. We should toss all democrats into huge cauldrons and light them all afire to power the nation. There is your new energy source plan.

>>2847231
not killing people does not make one a pussy. murder is wrong and it doesn't become right just because a government says it does.

>>2847239
..what

/jp/ - old /n/

>>2847217
You shut your goddamn mouth with that shit. You'll type what I want you to type, when I want you to and where. You got me son?

Man, you Americans are a ruse. Quick to talk smack and act like youre the shit but as soon as you open your mouths nothing but ignorant bullshit and misinformed lies come out.

>>2847176
The US population is greater than the UK, Canada, and Japan combined.

While I think a UHC system should probably be implemented eventually, with the economy as it is right now, it's not the time to be doing this.

>>2847242
>murder is wrong

So when North Korea launches there little nuke missile and Hawaii and blows it the fuck up, you'd just stand and say, "Please friends! Be at peace!! That was mean but I forgive you for murder is wrong! Let's be friends! :D"

Pussy. If N.Korea launches anything and we get a sniff of it we should launch fifty to their one. Blow the whole shitty country right off the goddamn map. Most of the world would be delighted if we did so.

>>2847256

>>2847269
i wouldn't consider killing in defense of one's home country is not murder

it's been a long time since american soldiers have done that

>>2847269
i wouldn't consider killing in defense of one's home country murder

it's been a long time since american soldiers have done that, though

>>2847256
Ah look, tis an inferior life form opening his gaping cock sucker! You'd better watch that filthy mouth of yours mongrel. We have Jesus and God almighty on our side and he will smite the non-believers down with frightening accuracy. Fucking human trash.

sure is trolls trolling trolls itt

This thread has nothing to do with Japan.

>>2847256

Yeah, because that's totally unique to Americans, right bro? Of course it is.

herp derp etc.

>>2847269
People said the same things about the soviet union during the cold war, but the tensions never escalated to nuclear because of the concept MAD. NK has nothing to gain by trying to blackmail its neighbors, and it has even less to gain with open war.