/jp/ - Otaku Culture

it took 2 minutes to get the new thread up and running. i hate the whining guy whining about "he is autistic. he always gets the thread done first"

>>27828437
wasn't it to teach him the importance of trusting your gut? there wasn't much follow up. i was a big fan of the milf girl who got gruesomely murdered. but yeah that whole arc was painfully drawn out and made worse by the fact that eren jobbed horribly to the female giant

Akari: 夢だと思っていることの幾つかは、本当に体験しているのかもって、思ったことない？
>Have you ever wondered if something you thought was a dream actually happened?
Aika: なくもないわね
>Can't say I have.
Alice: 夢の中で夢だって思うことならありますが
>I've had times where I thought, "This must be a dream!" while dreaming.
Akari: え、それはないかも
>Huh? That never happens to me.
Aika: それも、なくもないわね
>Can't say I've ever done that, either.

These double negatives confuse me. Shouldn't they be closer to 'there's been times that's happened to me'?

>>27828761
if jamal likes digimon so much why have i almost never heard him talk about it even when other people post epic stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNA6QfNqBA&t=264

back in my day (a couple months ago) we had to wait 30 minutes

>>27828273
>15 eps in a month
surely he's watching/reading something else then, r-right?

>>27827861
you are correct, the translation is fucked

threadly reminder to feel it out

reminder to never use english subs as a reference or you will permanently cripple your japanese when you stumble upon something written by someone who is even worse than you

finally something is happening, school shit makes me want to kms
also yeah dont use translations lol

>>27828852
3 years ago it was common to wait 45 minutes between threads and we cherished it because it was the only 45 minutes of emersion any of us got

It's impossible to accurately describe just how difficult learning this language is.

I knew it was going to be hard. But after lurking the sub and seeing several comments saying that many people would be disappointed with the slow pace of formal study, I naively believed it wouldn't be this bad. I should have known that -- in true Reddit fashion -- a lot of you are just smart. Like, so smart you don't even know your innate intelligence is insulting. Because I'm not stupid. I'm just normal.

Granted, I'm older now (not yet 30), and going back to college after having already gotten a degree. I know language learning is harder for me now than it would have been then, or is now for my younger classmates. But still, at a "slow" pace, it's an absolute minimum of a few hours every day and a tutor twice a week, on top of classes every weekday.

From what I can tell, the "normal" kids dropped the class early when they realized the only people going to make it through either received merit-based scholarships (because they're really smart) or just really like to hate themselves, which I'm convinced you have to do if you have normal intelligence.

Honestly, I'm not even mad. I can tell the kids who are just smart. Good on ya, mate (and ladies). Seriously. You will make excellent biochemical engineers, doctors, and whatever else smart people do. And you'll speak Japanese, which can be a side quest when you're Just. Naturally. Smart.

But for the rest of us normies, don't say college Japanese classes are slow. Because I've done a decent amount of objectively difficult stuff so far in my relatively short life, and this is without a doubt the hardest thing I've ever done.

Edit: </rant>

>>27828393
>>27828443
dude youre an esl living an esl country surrounded by other esls what makes you think youre opinion on your level of english output outweighs what natives have to say??
yes fluent speakers also fuck up even natives do but when they do its on way more subtle points and maybe once in a bluemoon theyll make a glaring error of the kind you make every few posts
if youre so confident about your english output why not make an account on one of those websites like lang 8 link it here and make posts on it everyday so the matter can openly be settled once and for all? honestly getting sick of your stubborn cope posts

>>27829188
>youre opinion
haha

>>27829133
wtf i thought this was made for here because i couldnt find the origin yesterday but just now i found it lmfao

>>27829133
it used to annoy me when people downplayed their intelligence and argued "it's just about discipline and perseverance". but now i understand that it's frustrating when people attribute your success in something to your intelligence if you've struggled with it (especially intellectually) and have only learned it because you stuck with it.

>>27829133
funny thing is it's fuckin easy if you just stick around and enjoy nihongonese creations
all you need is an iq above 80

>>27829315
yeah that's why i advocate for the murder of lazy whiners

>>27829221
ofc you wont believe me but i was typing "makes you think youre in a position to..." but then rewrote and forgot to change that
either way it is abundantly clear what i meant and its high time he backed up his "im fluent and youre all just hating" bullshit

>>27829133
Stuff like languages and music is mainly i+1. Think of it as a long grind.
The hardest thing to learn as an adult is probably drawing. Even the more concrete methods require insane amounts of trial and error until your intuition begins to vaguely 'get it'. Shits fucked.

need a japanese alternative to 4chan that hits the same dopamine receptors so i can stop wasting precious time not immersing because i can't leave this fucking website for the life of me

>>27829188
why would i bother to do all that? to get approval or the chance at you acknowledging the vague concept of "fluency" applying to me?
if someone who has no problems comprehending the language and can without any issue express any point he wants while being fully comprehensible to everyone who speaks the language WITHOUT being fluent, then fluency is simply meaningless, besides it's really apparent how you are incapable of naming a single objective or even semi-objective trait that defines fluency because you know it'd apply to me

>>27829551
doesn''t exist
観念しろ

>>27829590
btw i reread the post, no that's not an esl mistake i simply reformulated the sentence without correcting it, and no you don't have to believe me :)

>>27829315
it took me a long time to learn that lesson. idk why i was so stubborn when i was younger

cope&clench

i don't really believe in bullying esls because good for them for learning english, but i think quiz deserves it because he's so cocky about his english but makes mistakes all the time both here and on discord. like just admit your mediocrity its ok

>>27829590
you should do that to get a neutral and objective opinions from natives on your output because youre fucking stupid and dont know english yet wont accept what natives tell you here either
sick of your shit if you dont make an account ill make one myself and start posting stuff from your posts lol either way its time you get btfod and called out on your bs

both of the following are true statements
1. quiz is clearly fluent in english
2. his english is not as good as he thinks it is

>>27829315
when people cope for not being good at anything by labeling other people as superior to them you should just accept that theyre probably right cuz after all they turned out unable to commit to anything and thats a bigger impairment than low iq

>>27828720
Previous threads
>>27783494 #2539
>>27738844 #2538
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>>27829628
yea cuz messing up youre/your which happens to be one of the most common native mistakes is on the same level as typing "stroke a chord" or fucking up little/small far/for is/are lmfao a fine display of your fluency

fuckin baaaased

>>27829844
true

>>27829882
lol'ing at your post, it's especially funny because you throw that at me after failing to comprehend the post you are replying to

Any relation between Ni Hao (Chinese) and Niau (Japanese)
Vocab

Okay, first of all, the pronunciation is very similar. Ni Hao means hello in Chinese, while Niau is used in Japanese to mean to suit, or to match (Ie. possibly as in a relationship).

So they seem very similar in both sound and meaning, and the two languages borrow from each other.

So might there be any relation between these two words?

>>27829738
same

>>27829966
lmfao

>>27829954
lmfao

lole

lmfao

>>27829966
lol that's a pretty funny one

>>27829954
not bad

>>27829945
youre going to have a lot more to lol at when i start reposting your shit on those correction sites and rub the feedback in your face

reminder that quiz goes after people that made small mistakes years ago

>>27830095
go ahead but you know what i post here is on the level i'd throw into a chat, i don't pay attention to not making mistakes
like the stroke a chord or whatever earlier i knew was strange but i didn't care to go back and correct it, that you make such a fuss over that stuff is crazy

>>27829966
lmao

>tfw you know quiz read your post and seethed at it but couldn't come up with an ironic retort so he ignores it
feeling so smug rn

Should I bother watching unsubbed anime/reality shit if I'm actually gonna try and enjoy it and only look shit up on occasion to confirm words I'm not 100% on?
And what series do you think are good for that? I'm tempted to watch the seasons of terrace house I have left unsubbed but I know I'm gonna miss out on a lot. Any easy SoL that isn't all wordplay and abstract jokes, or that basically handholds me like Dora constantly visually mirroring what is said lol?
Cus I'm an idiot and tried watching azumanga but it escapes me even though I watched this shit once already.

Also feel like I should try some japanese games or translations so I stop eating time I could be learning by playing spreadsheet timewasters.
Thanks for visiting my sad blog.

>>27830155
i didn't "go after him" i simply asked him about it and wasn't hostile in any way, besides that's a paid translator doing official translations that people read and that's like a crazy bad line, simply wanted to see if he had a reaction in par

>>27829966
lold for a solid 20 seconds on this one

>>27830161
fluent speakers dont have to "try" to fluently output lmao

>>27828820
japanese negative are like -1+-1, not -1*-1

>>27830212
if you cant enjoy much without subs then your vocabulary is tiny so read more

>>27830212
what the other guy said, i dont think raw listening is that helpful if youre still a beginner

>>27830361
i'm not trying in the slightest and fluently outputting in this moment

>>27830376
lmfao

>>27830472
bro theres this little site called antimoon you might want to give it a look
http://www.antimoon.com/

yosh marathoned yakusoku no neverland
pretty good one that one
i recommend

おはようおにいちゃん

にちようびです

なにを読んでる？

>>27830591
doesn't support https so i can't go on it

>>27830472
forget sounding natural you cant even adhere to basic english grammar rules and no the ones you break are not flexible no matter how many esls you point to on the web making those errors

>>27830618
lmfao

>>27830413
yeah it definitely is, I just keep losing motivation now that I don't have physical university-waiting-for-lecture-to-start time to force me to go through anki.
Anyways, appreciate being put in my place.

>>27829551
twitter but follow true オタク

>>27830472
if you have to pay special attention or consciously try to not make esl mistakes while outputting then you are not fluent

>>27830931
what are you even basing that on, really wondering how you just say that stuff
who made you an authority on what fluency is

>>27830413
>>27830707
no its a listening problem and a vocab problem
but fuck it just keep watching subs who cares

>>27830980
capped

>>27831040
listening problem is hard to fix when you have a vocab problem in what youre listening to and easy to fix when you dont

>>27830980
if native speakers say youre not fluent then you're not, simple as copemaster

also reading anime is lame read voiced eroge instead

>>27831223
plenty of native speakers have told me i am fluent though

here's where yoga stole the ape metaphor from in case anyone was wondering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arj7oStGLkU

>>27831464
are you really gonna reply to such incredibly lazy bait instead of finishing kanken?

>>27831504
i'm about to head out i'm travelling back to my apartment as i have a course starting next week killed a bit of time in between

>>27831203
>and easy to fix when you dont
easiER to fix... but different accents stylized speaking n shit can still fuck u up for a while even if you know the words and have read them a bunch of times

>>27831500
>dude just stop procrastinating !
>thx for coming to my ted talk

どうぞ step on my c*ck and b*lles ください

fluent listening to any given word or phrase in various contexts without pausing probably takes 10x or more the exposure than it takes to be able to read the same word without issues
might not be worth it for people whos main interest is reading

>>27831938
hearing a phrase is a whole hell of a lot easier if you can also read that phrase

About how fluent am I if my listening comprehension of a variety of live Japanese TV is around 75%? Usually I can get the gist even if I am unfamiliar with one word per sentence. Reading-wise my kanji is pretty bad except for the really common stuff or through context.

>>27831973
yea of course it is but that doesn't guarantee you'll be able to if you haven't listened to it a lot already and in various different speaking voices

>>27831040
alright opinion no.2, basically I just watch Japanese shit before going to sleep cus I have to read the subtitles and reading makes me sleepy and I try to watch stuff that isn't so entertaining it keeps me up (unfortunately terrace house seems too stimulating lol).
Would you say there's a point to watching some shit with jp subs in that time instead, or would the potential gain be too small for someone who's only through 200 of the core2k anki cards? I do also know a lot of the common phrases at this point but yeah obv those numbers betray how shit I am.

Ay yo queefmeister, were da justice for me main man sparf at?
#FreeSparf

>>27832112
>Would you say there's a point to watching some shit with jp subs in that time instead
idgi didnt you say you're already doin that

is it bad if i do my reviews drunk?

i think avoiding listening entirely is stunting yourself regardless of what media youre interested in cuz youre missing part of the holy trinity of nihongo
but youre not gonna be making a lot of progress in listening to shit you couldnt understand at all if you read it either lol its just slowing you down in working on the more important problem which is not being able to feel the meaning
you should def hear some nihongo sometimes which based voiced eroge takes care of but worrying about your listening falling behind or whatever is a meme

>>27832011
theres some anime i watch raw and its so easy to understand but a different anime can say the same shit and i dont know what the FUCK THEY SAID

>>27832272
nah I should've said that better, I read japanese shit with english subs right now, sorry.

>>27832473
goddamnit now I said read instead of watch fucking hell, I mean I watch japanese shit with english subs.
ok I'm done being a retard.

>>27832426
yes bc state dependent memory

>>27832686
then explain namasensei

>>27832756
he doesnt know japanese

>>27832827
then why do i love him so much

never gonna watch kny, promise neverland, dorohedoro, hxh

>>27831504
lmfao what a fucking bootlicker
any definition of fluency includes being able to get your message across in GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT sentences with ease, thats after relaxing the requirement that the sentences sound natural
he is not fluent even under that looser definition
he was already given the suggestion to get feedback from other natives outside of djt on his english output if he thinks native feedback here is unfair and biased but pussied out lol

did my reps drunk anyway cuz drunk reps are better than no reps amiright

guess so

hell yweah brother

dats rite

>>27832439
>but youre not gonna be making a lot of progress in listening to shit you couldnt understand at all if you read it either lol its just slowing you down
good point

>>27833214
why not

>>27833408
true enough also i find output and some input easier when drunk because i lose the inhibition and am more willing to just feel it out
rattada
read
all
the
time
and
drink
a lot

>>27828720
remember to follow the guide when they're around.

sentence cards are so much better than vocab cards for beginners (me) it's not even funny

>>27833721
would rather watch good anime

>>27834226
what makes you think they're not good?

>>27834257
what makes you think they're good?

>>27834763
i've only seen promise neverland and i thought it was just ok but i don't know why you'd declare something is not good if you haven't watched it.

YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT

where does yomichan store imported dictionary data

>>27828761
1/9

>>27833214
same theres an endless supply of seinen kino I need to watch before I consider watching random shounen jump trash

omg my dopamine.

>>27834212
true keep it up

vote 4 trump

>>27837804
looks like trump

is there a better scan of the DoAJG in the internet? the only one i have managet to get is this shitty two pages per page scan.

>>27838449
no

>>27838449
holy entitled

>>27838626
you cant look at it and tell me it's fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nICbqAg-Nws

this thread sucks

>>27838813
10/10 anime
im wondering how a 野球選手 would feel about it though

>>27838561
i find your lack of faith unsettling.

How many kanji do I have to learn. because there's a massive difference between recognising a kanji verse being able to write ot from memory.

I watched a video where average japanese people struggled to write even with basic ones.

lol

>>27838996
i have the books but you're gonna have to pay me to upload anything ive learned from the itazuraneko guy's mistakes

>>27839498
do you have the klc graded readers

>>27839498
how much? im interested

>>27839515
bro... you can buy those digitally... wtf

>>27839560
yea but i dont want to buy

>>27839498
in pdf format? can i see a picture of the scan?

>>27839597
talking about klc graded readers now. those are digitally available at amazon.
about adojg, theres no digital version and i dont buy physical shit

>>27839713
yea so can you upload them if you have them

しゅくだいがおわらない

>>27830361
how would you know?

>>27830931
Wrong.

>>27840480
are you implying something is wrong with that post

>>27840519
esls dont get to decide what it means to be fluent in english

>>27840531
>>27840594
monolingual ameriburgers are clueless about language learning and should stay quiet. Know your place.

>>27840695
they're right

"i'm fluent i just can't output correctly lol!"
what the fuck? esls explain this

>>27840695
doesnt matter you retarded insecure shit lol if a native constantly gets the feeling something is wrong with your output then youre not fluent
and guess what if you cant even write grammatically correct sentences aka youre mary youre definitely not fluent lmao get fucked

muricans will never understand what it means to be fluent. monolingual bitches
being fluent means you can communicate to a similar level that of your own native language. it means you can understand anything.
muricans dont understand the difference between being fluent and native.

>>27840862
>if a native constantly gets the feeling something is wrong with your output then youre not fluent
lol so there are what? 10 people out there who are fluent in English as a second language? you people are ridiculous with these shit opinions.

Name one person who has learned a second language as an adult and sounds flawless. It doesn't even need to be English...

>>27840956
>>27833218
literally read the definition of fluency

>>27840993
flu·en·cy
/ˈflo͞oənsē/
the quality or condition of being fluent.
- the ability to speak or write a foreign language easily and accurately.
- the ability to express oneself easily and articulately.


is this any different from what i said before?
-> >>27840956

thread being cringe again

>>27840986
you dont have to be flawless to be fluent but jfc you cant say shit like >>27829882 and call yourself fluent
i know many esls who might not output like a native but are definitely fluent and i can tell you quiz is not one of them lol, you're actually insulting esls who attain fluency

the people who spend hours itt going after quizs english just sound like they have quiz derangement syndrome lol he's clearly fluent

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCgpf4gZLpw
lets watch some konto

>>27841040
pretty sure you wouldnt call someone who fucks up basic grammar articulate especially when its mistakes natives never make
saying he wouldnt blunder like that if he paid extra attention is just massive cope cuz hes admitting outputting correctly which is the minimum requirement for fluency btw isnt easy for him

what would happen if I spent all day trying to memorize 500+ new words
has anyone tried this

>>27841358
its useless youll fail most of your reviews the next day

is there a vn frequency list somewhere? i'mn using a netflix frequency list, but my guess is a vn one would have more descriptory stuff that books would have, so it seems like a good middleground between language in shows and description stuff from books

>>27841358
>>27841378
in fact youll likely learn fewer cards than you would have otherwise cuz you overloaded and exhausted your brain so you recall even less than normal what a waste of time

>>27841304
idk bro. honestly? i dont care. im an esl and even though i think quizmaster is a cancer i have to admit his level is way beyond mine.
i dont know what you guys call fluency

>>27841459
https://yuki.la/jp/26512264#p26548419

>>27841485
its not some impossible standard idk why you want to defend someone who doesnt know the difference between little/few lol his english is quite shit i bet youre more fluent than him

>>27841378
>>27841470
I don't mean with just anki, like what if you split different parts of your day interacting with those 500 words. Some of them you would read sentences for, some you would use to make sentences, some you put on sticky notes and stick them in random places around your house, etc, pretty much any different memory strategy you could think of. Change your room locations and stuff so your brain keeps inputting new associations with each set of words.
Even if you can't remember them all, wouldn't a good chunk stay with you? But obviously this can't be done everyday or you'd mix them up.

you don't attack someone's English, that's a low blow. we're supposed to act gentlemanly in here

>>27841304
get a life dude you've been posting about some guys english for 6 hours straight lmfao
>>27827602

>>27841577
why don't you just try it?

>>27841631
oh it was actually even longer than 6 hours lmfao

>>27841577
results the same you wont remember most of the words the next day, prolly even worse if youre not srsing with learning steps lol none of that fancy stuff is going to help you overload

>>27841631
thats not me but hes right
fluent outputters dont make you cringe like that

>>27841577
i added 580 words at once and memorized them to a great extent, in my opinion. the following day i had 92% accuracy

>>27841747
uh huh

>>27841747
good job, those 580 words are now in your passive vocabulary!
getting them firmly into active vocab is a more difficult process and really just involves a lot of content consumption and preferably an inner monologue where you use those words consistently and frequently. it's hard to do this in a non-native lang tho simply because of the sheer number of words and phrases one has to know to have an effective inner monologue

>>27841511
>https://yuki.la/jp/26512264#p26548419
thanks.
is there a way to convert that into a list with only the words 1 per line

>>27841747
i don't know how your people's brains work but with me i can memorize a lot of words in one day but then after 10 days my retention starts crumbling (if i try too many words)

50~100 per day is what I can manage without suffering too much

just bought a usb foot pedal for anki and vinnies hands free baby!!!

>>27841887
ciaran? remember you talking about using controllers for anki

there are so many unknowns here
had you seen those 580 words before
were the readings/meanings obvious based on your previous knowledge
did you accurately self-assess or just hit good thinking yea i was kind of there
how was your retention for those words a week in

just stinks of bullshit all round

>>27841867
>>27841511
nvm, got it! thanks

>>27838449
There is, search harder.

>>27841867
what are you trying to do dude its just a dictionary file you import into yomichan

>>27841867
heres the raw thing
http://wiki.wareya.moe/Frequency%20lists

>>27841829
>>27841884
>>27841922
hmmm dont know what to say. i use a lot of extra steps to make sure i actually learn something before reviewing it the next day
i just finished mining for today: 703 cards
whether it "stinks of bullshit all around" or not

>>27841459
btw if youre looking for a frequency list based off books you should just download narou instead of approximating with a vn list, link is in the same thread
https://yuki.la/jp/26512264#p26548902

>>27842146
how much you mine in a day is utterly irrelevant we're talking about learned cards here
are you saying you learn 700 new cards a day everyday?

vocab cards -> you translate things in your head. you pick some english word and decide that it grasps the meaning of the japanese word. you remember that word in a sterile manner

sentence cards -> you don't need to translate, you just look at the word and see what it is doing and then you feel its influence in its surroundings getting a clear picture of the whole thing. it's organic. it's alive.

>>27842198
have i EVER said that? i was just answer the guy its possible to learn (on anki terms) 580 cards. i dont do this every day

>>27842234
pseud

>>27841998
>>27842148
awesome, thanks!

>>27842245
you cant learn 580 cards in a day and get 92% retention on them unless its all shit youve seen a million times already sorry

>>27842315
hmmm ok then, bruh

>>27842340
i dont understand why you even mentioned
>i just finished mining for today: 703 cards

also you most likely failed a lot of them in a few days, getting it right the next day isnt real retention

>>27842397
not him but why do you give a shit? maybe the dude has a super memory or something or he learned words with common kanji that he already knew the readings. you sound like you were personally insulted or something lmao

>>27842397
because i had finished mining when i was replying. but man, its fine. its not real retention then. just calm your pants

あ！

>>27842234
doesnt matter if uve watched enough anime

>>27842479
cuz it gives retarded drones itt even shittier ideas, and honestly if what you say is the case then its some pretty disingenuous advice as it is

ive done 1000 new cards a day, probably like 200-300 new kanji in there and my retention was over 90%. i also had it set to show up 2-4 days later in load balancer to lower the overall reps. but that's only for anki experts.

>>27842630
blow those cards out of your ass bro

>>27842630
how many cards do you have now

>>27842721
only 15k mature in my mining deck currently.

>>27842786
stinking humble bragger go kys

>>27842824
well it's only 15 days work if you're a serious anki user after all not much to brag about lol!

>>27842907
post your stats or shut the fuck up

>>27842936
well ill post this one from the week that i did 1k new cards in a day and you can see my retention rate didn't change at all afterwards.

damn serious anki users can go past native level vocab in two months !! someone stop these scrabble champs before theres no more nihongo left for us to learn lol

>>27843061

>well it's only 15 days work if you're a serious anki user after all not much to brag about lol!
lmfao so you learned a few extra cards for a day or two and think youre in a position to say doing that consistently for 8x as long is just as simple lol fucking retard

>>27833982
remember not to fall for ajatt spammer's new identity

>>27843518
same 感じ

>>27843337
well yeah if you were really serious about your studies you would do it. it's really hard mentally but its definitely possible. you're just a weak coper who is too scared to spend 12 hours a day in anki. ive already learned enough that it wouldn't benefit me anymore to do that or id gladly do it cause i ain't no punk bitch.

>>27843574
have u learned enough to write ur post in japanese ?

man i really fucking hate some of these shitposts

>>27837002
dorohedoro is seinen and probably one of the best shows of the last 5 years

>>27843670
have you? after all these years...
not him, but this is a no win situation. it doesnt matter how good he is, if he screws up one single word or sound unnatural, you guys are gonna shit on him.
but question remains, tho.
>have u learned enough to write ur post in japanese ?
have you? after more than a decade. can you write his post in japanese?

>scroll through 200 posts
>only read those with 3+ (you)s

do people really not know how to read graphs

>>27843574
lmfao look at the retard and laugh

>>27843574
are you trolling or are you legitimately double digit iq
it doesnt matter how "serious" you are about your "studies", you can sit in front of anki 20 hours a day non stop and keep chucking shit at your brain which would completely shut off a couple of hours in by the way and end up with a garbage <10% again rate cuz you need to see each new card a dozen times before promoting to young do this shit for 4 days and forget everything after

you are quite literally a numbskull if you think gains are linear with time

>>27843670
真面目に取り組めば誰でもできるがお前ら普通に真面目じゃないんだって

>>27844294
why is your post so bad then

>>27844155
this is just a cope. youve never tried it and you're scared of your own minds potential so you just make shit up you think sounds true. it's like redditors who don't believe you can possibly learn from watching anime.

>>27844317
cope.

i could probably do 100 anime cards per day but when i did 100 plain vocab cards per day for 2 weeks it was absolutely fucking miserable. 3 weeks after that my retention was like 50% and i hated doing the deck so much i just deleted it lol but it's fine i guess i'm sure i'd recognize a decent percentage of those words when reading.

>>27843859
so nope and cope

>>27844294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU54WpQNYic#t=163

>>27843061
>6 hours of anki

>>27844544
then shut the fuck up

>>27844590
what do u mean "then"

bros...

>>27844656
more like missing in action haha

im a jp learning 不良

>>27844656
imagine going on fiverr and paying some indonesian to make u a logo lmfao

>>27844339
obviously youre shitposting but i want to continue describing why this scenario is so fucked
the number of new cards youll be learning per minute will drastically decrease an hour or two into your autistic anki session

where two steps would have been enough to get a card to graduate to young in the first hour or so, even 10+ reviews would be insufficient later on and youll keep lapsing shit
soon you wouldnt even be able to clear the cards in your learning that are showing up after their first step in the middle of your session so you wont be able get to more new cards no matter how long you sit there for lol
ofc you might start cheating then and just graduate everything in learning to young to see more new cards at which point youve basically lost it load balance or not youre failing all of that shit

>arguing in english when japanese is the language of interest
>mfw

wow jamal is learning how to greentext climbing up the 4chins ladder i see

reading a chapter of a book is the best srs when you're at the intermediate level (talking about any language here)

why are the japs so based

>>27844882
this is all a cope. ive done 1000+ cards a day with no issues. any serious learner would do it before inventing scenarios in their head that it's impossible.

how fuck in the head do u have to be to do 6 hours of anki reviews, thats some crazy shit lol

thank god i'm a serious acquirer and not a serious learner

>>27845200
it was actually much longer than that because anki doesn't count the time spent looking at the back of the card. it was probably 10 hours. but that's just the price to pay for any serious learner of japanese. the next day i did 500 more new cards just for fun.

>>27845119
they arent "based" they are cave savages lacking the basic morals and conscious that a noble whitoid has

>>27845306
>but that's just the price to pay for any serious learner of japanese.
stop trolling

>>27845353
now write your post in japanese

>>27845152
yea you did it for 1 or 2 days lol means literally nothing anyone can do that given enough braindamage i think even quiz did a day of 1k in a fit of autism once but that 15 day thing is utter bullshit, you do a thousand new cards for 5-6 days straight and your reviews would climb up so much youd have to do 6k-7k reviews a day just to keep up
and your retention would be utter dogshit of course no matter how much time you spend a day

i delete my decks whenever i hit over 20 minutes for a session

>>27845485
cope.

>>27845485
ngmi

俺ほどうまい人いないんや

there are some insecure guys in here. they are always foaming at the mouth at anyone who claims they've learned something in japanese

you say "i know the colors in japanese" and they go like
>but do you know all the cultural implications of those colors? do you know the etymology of those words? do you know color theory? No?! then you don't know shit

>>27845306
>>27845545
what cope you did virtually no cards after those 2 days for like what 35 weeks lmfao real monster we got here

>>27845649
>>27845639

>>27845445
if u dont know japanese then me doing so wont really have any effect on that

>>27845675
yeah cause there wasn't any more to learn after that. it just goes to show how quickly the reviews drop so you're 6-7k reviews a day hypothesis is wrong.

>>27845762
>>27845545
LOL

>>27845739
now write this post in japanese or shut the fuck up and never request anyone else to do so

>>27845886
u being madder doesnt change ur nihongo level

>>27845762
uh huh

>>27845886
書きたくないっつってんだろ

>>27829942
I got porn of her

jamal is back to his daily autism...

>>27845791
i was doing every new card i mined every day and i mine every new word i see. if i had mined 15k cards in 15 days i would have done them and that's no cope because im a serious learner.

>>27845918
you are full of shit. probably the lowest level itt

真面目なlearner lol

>>27845940
that's not taking into account load balancer which for the serious learner graduates cards 2-4 days into the future to lower daily rep counts.

why can't i drag and drop subtitles onto an mkv that has subs encoded already? is the only way really to run every episode through a program to add the subtitles to the file itself? most of the time the highest quality bd rips are eng subbed, not raw.

>>27846038
*fans nails* keep copin i got all day

>>27846110
lol wtf are you using to play videos if you can't do that

it's clear that jamong is a dekinai. he is been challenged constantly throughout the years and not even once has he showed the slightest hint of fluency.

>>27845969
yea so serious it took you 70 weeks to do what you couldve done in two guess that makes you a real stupid fucking bitch doesnt it lmao

>>27846135
write that in japanese

>>27846178
yeah you're right. nobody's perfect though.

>>27846167
a dekinai what ? idk if u know this but dekinai isnt a noun idk why u guys made the most retarded sounding meme of all time but its pretty indicative of ur overall nihongo level LOL

エミリン・エミリン・エミリン・エミリン・エミリンチャンネル〜さぁ始まるよ〜

>>27846246
well then you should shut the fuck up if youre so full of shit mr sirius learner cuz you worked literally 35x as slow as you claim you couldve lol where do these fucking retards crawl out of

>>27846110
you can? unless the video is hardsubbed in which case yeah obviously it's not gonna work lol

>>27846304
now write that in japanese

>>27831535
Can't wait for the deck and site to come out next year

>>27846388
how many times have u posted that i nthe last 10 mins and where do u rank on the autism spectrum LOL

>>27846408
would you mind writing this post in japanese?

>>27846167
just like qm and all the other djt cult figures

>>27846350
im just saying we should all strive to do better and not be held back by delusions about what the mind is capable of. it simply requires hard work and that's all. anything else is merely a cope.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jalt_URq2Z8
dropped?

the kokoro illuminated LOL

>>27846408
now post that in japanese, please

>>27846573
why dont you post a 2 minute vocaroo of you talking in japanese if you know more than them or try streaming a vn
everyone talks shit but almost no one here can go up against them so who cares if they know japanese or whatever theyre one of the best itt if no one can beat them

>>27846676
did you make this stupid post in hopes someone would ask you to write it in japanese and you would finally be able to comply for once?

no ?

火傷やけど

>>27846649
yea we should strive to pull shit out of your ass and say we could tooootally learn 35x as fast if this if that when there are virtually no success stories to look at damn such divine knowledge who wouldve thought

>>27846158
>>27846355
mpc hc. it only works with raw anime. if i drag and drop onto an anime that already has subs it'll abandon the anime and open a blank video with the subtitle filename in the window header. if i do "load subtitle" it just doesn't load the subtitle at all.

Okay, guys. After a couple of months procrastinating, I'm finally gonna start learning Japanese for real. I already started with kana and some tae kim.
I'm gonna focus on RTK and core10k from now on. How long will it take to become better than Jamal? Honest question

>>27846847
switch to a good video player like mpv

>>27846865
ten years give or take

>>27846865
>I'm gonna focus on RTK and core10k from now on.

>>27846922
Doubt it. Less than 6 months, I believe.

>>27846865
well to begin with "memorizing" 10k words is nothing when jamal realistically knows more than twice as many from acquisition and thats just one facet of the language

>>27846945
why are you asking if youre already so sure you braindead dunning kruger noob piece of shit lmao

>>27847014
hur dur lmao piece of shit hur dur

>>27847048
i know it makes you mad but its all true every word of it you literally dont know any japanese you fucking retard come back 6 months later so i can laugh at you again

>>27847101
>literally
>braindead
>literally
>piece of shit
>literally

how can you browse the thread and come away with the impression that rtk and core10k are the best course of action to take lol

jamalくん

今度は日本語を書いてくれ

>>27847101
>>27847184

now write that in japanese

>>27847163
could fit the entirety of your japanese knowledge in there haha sorry but applications for new djt clowns are closed for now
but who knows if you study for 6 months you might *just* pass n6! lol

>>27847363
could you write that in japanese?

Can you explain what this screenshot/meme(?) means? I saw it as a reply to a post about a fanart that got called out for being traced/stolen or something. The posts had nothing to do at all with Hiroyuki btw.

>>27847431
yea i could but i could also remind you that youre violating global rule 10 hardcore right now and are kind of getting on my nerves so might want to switch up your content there

>>27847231
このスレを見て
じゃ、rtkとかcore10kやってみようかなと思ったら
頭おかしいよ

>>27847491
ask deepl

>>27847512
lol big cope energy

>>27847512
then please, write it

>>27847573
says the n6 retard encouraging production
youre so crippled

>>27847586
how much japanese do you know

>>27847525
based nibu

>>27847221
あ～

あたしの初めての手書き

>>27847431
why would he write that in jp when the guy hes responding to is a day 1 noob and the guy whos pestering him is a day 2 noob lol

>>27847667
yep, jamal wins this one

>>27847684
write that in japanese

>>27847731
>>>/int/djt

*saves the thread*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZTseo0DdWM

>>27841942
got it, thanks bro.

crazy how esls like quiz can just type up a storm for hours in english but people here shy away from writing a couple of lines of japanese. really shows you the level of djt compared to just typical esls.

>>27848111
share with the class, anon

>>27848116 yea dont think i can beat this desu >>27829966

>>27848142
yeah you can't that's the saddest part lol

>>27848142
lmao

>>27848167
no one here cares about output you could instead post some japanese that deepl and google translate fail on and ask someone to translate or post a vocaroo reading out loud to demonstrate their level

>>27847817
wtf i hate haruhi now

>>27848225
what a cunt

>>27847667
人の言うことを文字どおりに受け取ることは自閉症だ

>>27829966
lol

>>27848116
i wrote one what the hell else do you want

>>27848220
lmfao this is a major cope. there's no other language where people can say "yeah it's fine if i can't string two words together i really do know it"

>>27848131
>/folder/pSx1AC5Q#Vy5dvTSwHxifzRChZ9ocUQ
uploaded it to mega along with the remaining books.

>>27848331
how is it a cope if some of the people here can prove they have near native level comprehension? post some japanese and ask for an analysis, maybe write a few lines in japanese yourself you can do that right

>>27828761
I wish they would have milked Mahoromatic for more seasons. I loved it so much but the pacing was completely fucked -- especially Season 2.
I suppose I should probably go back and rewatch it because I got filtered by all the military people talking.

>>27848393
>they have near native level comprehension
impossible if you don't speak the language or don't interact with native speakers. the words are just dead on a page like some guy who learned ancient greek. they can never understand the impetus behind the language without experiencing it for themselves directly.

>>27848220
>no one here cares about output
jamal asked this guy to write in japanese

>>27843670

>>27848460
yeah i liked it but the ending was fucking retarded
the last three eps in general were kind of bad

>>27848499
nice cope lol you probably dont even know any japanese and just want to shitpost here
besides someone already posted in jp but you obviously ignored that cuz the truth is you cant read for shit lmao go shove your impetus up your butt

>>27848576
>go shove your impetus up your butt
a-anon...

>>27848608
kek

>>27848572
>the ending was fucking retarded
The entire time skip or the final couple minutes? I like how the final couple minutes gave it a nice clean end. He died and was seeing Mahoro in the spirit world that he was transitioning to, right? or did that scene filter me too?

>>27848611
maybe you should try visiting the daily english thread and getting some speech therapy if you have stammering issues just my 2 cents

>>27848733
i thought the entire timeskip was silly it just didn't fit into the rest of the show and seemed like it was being whacky for the sake of being whacky
i also don't think it's a clean end at all and if you look around you'll find that there's a lot of discussion around what actually happened there

>>27848279
わたしは自閉症

>>27848762
i dont want youre money

looks like some troublemakers got smited

minna genki ? lmao

>>27848225
she can't keep getting away with it

have laid in bed for two hours cooming to jav instead of learning japanese yosh

>>27848279
真に受ける is way more natural

>友達でも知り合いでもないのにいきなりタメ口で話しかけてくる客についてどう思いますか？
its weird this kind of shit bothers nihonjin

>>27849969
pdr?

>>27849965
fuck off bunkoboy

>>27849999
yea. it was a twiiter question he answered

test

>you have to learn conjugation to learn not to use conjugation
Ha-ha...

>>27849969
its bc japanese are taught from birth to believe their existence is an inconvenience for others and so to go up and casually walk thru someones at field is very uncomfortable

>>27850031
i like that guy

i cannot playing hanachirasu but it's so difficult for me, どうしよう???

u think i would waste my time here writing more than a word or a single sentence lol

i cannot stop playing hanachirasu but it's so difficult for me, どうしよう???

>>27850184
only mine the words without furigana

>>27850261
but most importantly im having trouble interpreting the sentences correctly

>>27850158
>taught from birth to believe their existence is an inconvenience for others
Truly my people. I knew I was right to learn this language.

>>27850326
read some manga for a while first

>>27850353
too bad youll never fit in

>>27850353
they arent ur people tho

>>27850357
but this VN has sucked me in so much. otherwise im just going to read it in english

the only japanese ppl ull ever truly get along with are westernized ones

unwoke ones will just merely tolerate ur existence and continued disturbance

>>27850434
does "westernized" mean "not racist"?

>>27850434
thinking like this used to make me sad but then i realised i dont have any nationalistic feelings anyway and that i never was a complete normie

>>27850434
westernized people are generally more based than japanese so it makes sense

>>27850434
fuck all of them

>>27850228
it's not that long so you won't have to struggle that much

hanachirasu seems cool but i dont feel like downloading it only to get btfod

>>27850434
its all about how you frame it really, thats the thing about life. most of them are beta nerds so i like to think ill be cool enough to win them over and bring our cultures closer together

>>27850957
oh wait i already have it downloaded lol no excuse now

>>27851045
your excuse can be that it doesn't really work without an xp vm

>>27850434
i did study abroad in japan
each of us were assigned a "buddy" that would show us foreigners around school and town. we would all hangout, after classes and stuff. buddies were people who wanted to interact with the foreigners.

most of the girl buddies, 5 years later, are all now married to whitoids.
there's def a type of japanese person that has a propensity and preference to talking to/tolerating whitoids and foreigners.

>giving a fuck about the 日本人
ngmi

>>27851154
ye i cant even install it haha oh well

>>27851176
well ofc theres that bc japanese ppl esp girls grow up watching pretty whitoids on tv and wanna look like them etc so not really surprising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNplZrRSjeI
mmm thats the stuff

more like samurai champoop

>hanachirasu
looks very bad

>>27851176
got hard imagining getting a japanese chick buddy but then got flaccid imagining the sexless marriage

>>27851394
nandattebayo??!

>>27851417
turn on ur monitor

>>27851479
just kidding that was a good show

i prefer hanabira ni kutiduke wo

>>27851380
thats the song that made me realize im never going to make it

>>27851607
what do u mean

>>27851220
I just want a 184cm tall Japanese 彼女

>>27851636
its too hard to understand anything in it

>>27851515
you just reminded me there was a weeb in my 高校 class who spent most of a free period on memorising oreimos full title

>>27851659
i havent checked in a while but the last time i tried to understand it even with the lyrics there i couldnt lol its pretty hard

speaking of tall women, yesterday i saw at least 4-5 that were my around height and 1 that was taller than me and i'm 188 cm tall. fuck this country i've never felt tall in my entire life.

>>27851719
where can i find 190cm women???

>>27851688
春を告げ　踊り出す山菜
夏を見る宇治　野原唐草乾くわ
秋の月登った　まん丸さ　お祝い
冬を過ぎまた　月日を数える
yea theres some easy parts too but ya the bulk of it is crazy hard

>>27851751
africa

samurai champloo you mean that show where nothing happens until the last few episodes because they were playing baseball and fighting zombies or some dumb shit

>>27851751
the nordic region

>>27851771
figures zoomers wouldnt get it

>>27851751
i'm in serbia

>>27851771
i mean thats basically cowboy bebop

https://youtu.be/baKMVP9FWI8
reminder to consume your daily textbook

>>27851803
what did i miss

>>27851771
you're probably the guy from yesterday that thinks band of brothers is shit

>>27851812
yea and that's why i'd flush both down the toilet

>>27851845
never seen it

>>27851817
the meaning of life

>>27851813
ヌーハーフですか

>>27851813
whitoid final form

>>27851887
ニュー
すみません

another one has fallen

>>27852019
やっぱりそうだった

>>27852019
大丈夫兄貴

>>27852078
rip another ajatter enters the japanese end game

https://streamable.com/ktzutb