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Bern's in Higurashi?!

>>2753760


Higurashi is to Bern as Radioactive spider is to Spiderman

>>2753769
...A radioactive cicada bit Rika and so she turned into the WITCH OF MIRACLES?

Bern was Rika in her previous life. She even said so herself.

>>2753769
Wow this is so fucking cool.

And it's not obvious whatsoever.

>>2753777
No fucking way.

>>2753774

Best theory I've heard since Battler's small bombs idea.

>>2753760
Bern was always in there. Check her poems, duh.


by the way OP, any nico link for the OAV?

>>2753796
>>2753777
SO she died right after Higurashi?

Fuck.

>>2753806
>Bern was always in there.

No way. There is just no fucking way.

>>2753811
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31811

>LoL i troll u

>>2753817
u trol me gud

Was it ever confirmed that the poet Frederica Bernkastel in Higurashi was the same Bernkastel in Umineko?

>>2753788

>>2753829
It is confirmed in Umineko that Bern was trapped in tragic fate when she was "human".

>>2753835

>>2753835
>>2753841
Canon.

>>2753835
>>2753839
>>2753841
Wow you people are so fucking smart.

If it was finally confirmed that Bern was Rika in her past life, what about the Lambda Delta and Miyo connection?

>>2753881
IIRC, there was a flavored extra text regarding Lambda, and Miyo was her pawn (lambda ranted that some people couldn't ask for a proper wish, then Miyo barged with "I want to be god!")

Frederika Bernkastel
Frederika
Furude Rika

Lamdadelta=34
34=Miyo

I am who I am; Frederica Bernkastel.
Furude Rika and Frederica are different. Shame on you if you thought so.
My age? I've gotten bored with it, so I've quit counting.

Huh? Are you speculating that the real identity of the Oyashiro-sama is me?
Giggle giggle. You are so insolent.
The Oyashiro-sama is the Oyashiro-sama. You want me to introduce it to you? It's rather shy.
It gets frightened easily so don't scare it, okay? However, it seems that you are the one that's scared.

Giggle giggle giggle...

>>2753896
except that it was also implied in umineko that Lambdadelta was already a witch when she was facing Bern, who was still human (as Rika).

Furthermore, Lambda's "memoires" confirm that Miyo is linked to Lambda, but arguably not the same entity.

Why is there such a casting overlap between Higurashi and Umineko?
Battler = Akasaka
Beatrice = Rika's Mother
Maria = Han'yuu
Krauss = Okonogi
Eva = Takano
Kanon = Satoshi

Lazy typecasting?

>>2753902

Okonogi = Okonogi

>>2753902
if they were really that lazy, they would just pick random pricks without much fame to save money.

Ryukishi helped in the casting choice, and it is clear some are totally justified (especially Miki Itou as Eva).

Rika is holding a small bomb prototype.

Bernkastel is the culprit.

>>2753732
Is the fourth episode out yet?

>>2753926
Try TT

>>2753929

>[Smallbomb-Raws] Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei - 04 RAW (NICO 480x270 H264 AAC)​.mp4

WTF IS THIS

>>2753932
Comment: the end.​ farewell, hinamizawa.​ welcome, rokkenjima.​

>>2753932
What.

>>2753958
My expression

>>2753932

The next episode was streamed online early. Somebody obviously ripped it.

Not enough Bern in this. Fuck Studio Deen.
They'll turn Umineko into shit too.

>>2753963
As it has happened with all the previous ones.

Does anyone have a nico link to the new one?

>[Smallbomb-Raws]
Poor Battler is NEVER going to live that down.

>>2753732
Whoa there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BRVh3SFTyk

In case any one hasn't seen the Bernkastel stuff from Higurashi.

Takano is innocent.
Rika dies because of small bombs in her wine

>>2753974
Ryukishi has more creative control. I'd wait for the first arc to end before passing judgment...

REPEAT IN RED!!

"Rika's mom died due small bombs."

>>2754025
I'll wait for Dread of the Grave before I pass my judgement.

>>2754025
Repeat that in red.

"Ryukishi has more creative control"

>>2753992
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7320354

>>2754042
>>>/rs/You_are_a_fag

Did they actually say Frederica's name?

>>2754107
Just once! and only the Bernkastel bit when Rika wakes in hospital

Endless Nine is superior. Shit makes you yell OBJECTION the moment it starts.

"Those who have known Higurashi will be tricked more easily." - Ryuukishi07

>>2754374
Is that supposed to suggest Bernkastel isn't really Witch Rika and thus, we shouldn't trust her so easily?

>>2753881
Lambdadelta gave Miyo Takano the power of certainty. So you could say that Beatrice now is how Miyo was then, a mere piece in a game.

That's what I can remember at least. I don't recall which Episode/tea party/??? this was said in though.

>>2754445
In Higurashi, we learned to accept the idea of fragments and world travel.
In Umineko, that's all a lie.

>>2754374

非表示動画です

この動画は非表示に設定されています。

>>2754445
We should think like "if I hadn't known Higurashi, what would I think of it?"

>>2754374
It'll be super obvious as to who the culprit is.

>>2754496
So how do you explain the groundhog day we're seeing? Are we really just Witch Hunters reading the multiple accounts of the event that washed up on shore and filling in the rest with imagination?

>>2754594
Obvious answer: Trippin' balls/dreamlol

Not-so-Obvious answer: Black holes.

>>2754601
Don't you mean small bombs?

>>2754594
That would suck so much... So much of this game is fantasy that if you took it all out very little is left and you'd just feel like you've wasted your time reading it all.

>>2753902
What I don't get is why Okonogi isn't Okonogi.

>>2754641
Because Umineko's Okonogi doesn't act like Higurashi's Okonogi

>>2754641

Okonogi probably WILL be Okonogi.

He hasn't been announced a VA since he only comes up in Ep 4.

Moreover I hope he is. Okonogi had a damn awesome voice.

>>2755072
Actually, it might be appropriate for his voice to be somewhat different. Takano mentions in one of the TIPS that he adopted that accent after moving to Hinamizawa in order to blend in more with the locals.

>>2754641
Because it might not be the same character? Umineko's Okonogi is named Okonogi Tetsurou, and Higurashi's Okonogi is never explicitly named, so it might be a relative or same character.

>>2755192

Two sly-talking green-haired (in a ponytail) sharp-faced double agents with the same name?

Okonogi never died in Higurashi. (Akasaka beat his ass down, though.) It's entirely plausible that he's alive 15 years later, in a completely different profession.

>>2755206
Higurashi and Umineko are set in completely different worlds. Higurashi is simply a mystery novel in Umineko (which Battler has actually read).

>>2755258
That doesn't change the fact that witches are beings with godlike powers existing outside of reality and are able to manipulate worlds as they see fit (if we accept how the fantasy world is built). For Battler it might have been just another mystery novel but for Bern and Lambda it was a real game world. Witches can break the fourth wall on top of that.

>>2755258

Maybe. Maybe not. Witch's games kinda fuck reality over.

Of course, witches don't exist, so it never happened.

>>2755266
Yes, but what I'm trying to say is that Hinamizawa presumably doesn't exist and in that respect Battler's world is more similar to our own. The worlds where Higurashi takes place must be quite different (though voyager witches can travel between them).

>>2755258
He's read it because it never existed aside from being a novel - enjoy witches not existing and just Battler going insane and imagining up Higurashi and Umineko. ಠ3ಠ

>>2755206
There is also another similarity to Higurashi. Shion and Ange both went to the same school, St. Lucia.

>>2755324
Anti-fantasy interpretation of Saikoroshi-hen: Rika becomes so lonely after losing her friends due to the dam that she starts imagining a world where the dam was never built and her friends stay with her in Hinamizawa. She starts deluding herself that she can return to that world by killing someone and ends up murdering her mother and then killing herself in a misguided attempt to reach that ideal world of hers.

Quite a tragic story.

>>2755384
How is that related to what I said at all? ಠ_ಠ

All the previous worlds in Higurashi are actually Saikoroshi-hen Rika's delusions. It's not as if a divine moeblob, a mysterious lethal disease that's only found in a single vilage and a secret government conspiracy out to turn that disease into a biological weapon could ever be real after all.

>>2755391
Your post served as inspiration for it.

>>2755394
Oh okay, cuz my point wasn't anything near that, more along the lines of Higurashi only was ever a book and Battler having read it made it 'real' like Umineko - including having those two as characters in his new little bout of insanity. ಠ3ಠ

>>2755392

>a mysterious lethal disease that's only found in a single vilage and a secret government conspiracy out to turn that disease into a biological weapon could ever be real after all.

Devil's Proof.
I refuse to explain.

>>2755398
Kind of off-topic, but hey CurryButt. Found any good Ciel doujin lately?

>>2755399
How do you explain the moeblob god and memories from other worlds? Obviously none of these are real and are merely the delusions of a little girl who retreated into a fantasy world after all her friends moved away.

>>2755408
You know, I havn't really looked at all lately, I should though! Thanks for reminding me, anonymous, if I find anything good ill mention it when theres a thread it'd be at least semi-relevant to ಠ3ಠ

Higurashi never happened aside from as much as it has in real life, this thread is pointless, it was all a big troll by ryukishi. ಠ3ಠ

>>2755392
I wouldn't put that past Grandfather!

>>2755420
So I should start a Ciel thread?

So how far is Higurashi actually translated? I've been wanting to start up on it at some point, but I don't know how much of it is already finished. After Umineko I wanted to get the backstory from Higurashi that the anime never covered.

>>2755452
My internets being slow and like I said, I don't have anything new. I need to eat anyway, maybe another day or later or something. ಠ3ಠ

>>2755398
>cuz

GTFO NIGGER

>>2755459
All right, then...

>>2755470
I've always used 'cuz' here, no one cares anymore, get over it.