/jp/ - Otaku Culture

And nothing of value was lost

Except Freedom
and Dignity
and Honor

>>2708484

>>2708487
Just like hers. We are this fucking little girl, /jp/.

inb4 the rape rate in Japan increases a hundredfold.

It's a pity, SMDoD was shaping up pretty well judging from the trial. If they hadn't kept delaying it, it would've been released by now.

Also, was 'My sex slave is a classmate' one of the few games from mangagamer that were never cracked?

Its like we're the ones getting violated by the feminazis.

Is this how rape feels like?

>>2708548
Yes. Now lets rape the feminazis back.

>>2708558
You can't. That's what rape feels like.

>>2708487
Wow, you totally went in the wrong direction there. They are expressing THEIR freedom to no longer sell you shit or to finish a project they have been working on.

When your main thing is rape games .. you already signed away your dignity.

Honor has nothing to do with anything here, you just wanted to add it to look cool.

>>2708572
>They are expressing THEIR freedom to
give up their rights because the government said so? Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>2708576
they aren't governed by the EOCS. Unless somehow they are having their licences yanked by the companies in Japan the EOCS means shit.

It's okay. Any entertainment that sexualises children should be outlawed.

>>2708585
Which is actually, you know, more evidence in my favor.

Nice try, though?

>>2708590
We should cut off every little girl's limbs at birth so she can't masturbate.

>>2708585
That seems to be the case
>We are sorry to announce that the following two titles will be put off from the site due to a request from the copyright holder.
>"My Sex Slave is a Classmate"
>"Suck My Dick or Die"

>>2708585
>Both of these games were published in Japan under the brand Liquid, which is one of NEXTON’s software brands. MangaGamer, although not a Japanese company, is controlled mainly by Japanese eroge companies, one of which may be NEXTON, due to the large quantity of their titles in MangaGamer’s lineup. The head of NEXTON also happens to be the current head of the EOCS.

>>2708600
Completely besides the point. You have no argument left.

There is no logical reason of why sexualisation of children should be allowed in entertainment. It sends a clear message that this type of thing is acceptable and that is what no society can afford. Even in japan the pedo thing can maintain because a loophole in the law.

And no, "because I like to jerk off to it" is not a valid argument.

Wait, does that mean there's little to no rape in "The Queen and Princess as your rewards"?

That's disappointing.

>>2708607

>and that is what no society can afford

Funny how civilization survived for thousands of years with pedophilia being a-okay.

>>2708615
How? There is no logic in this statement. You cannot compare previous times in the context of todays world. Pedophilia on its own has always been a taboo even though in certain contexts such as marriage it was not thought as such.

Remember kids:
Assaulting a woman with a 3 foot samurai sword = Okay
Assualting a woman with a 7 inch p0n0s = Bad

>>2708607
>There is no logical reason why sexualisation of children should be allowed in entertainment
Other than to accurately portray reality, where children are just as sexual everyone else.

>>2708629
>Point 1) I'm logical.
>Point 2) You're not!
>Point 3) I win.
You disappoint me, /jp/.

>There is no logical reason why sexualisation of children should be allowed in entertainment

Because it sells.

>>2708634
Because VNs portray reality accurately? HAHAHA Bullshit

Of course in art this should be acceptable but in blatant pornographic entertainment it is not suitable. Entertainment does not portray reality. It makes cash.

>>2708644
hypocracy runs thick here.

>>2708644
And where is the line drawn between what is pornography and what is art?

Surely it's an aesthetic choice, rather than one that should be mandated in a court of law?

>>2708644

All the more reason they shouldn't affect reality, and therefore anything pictured in them should be perfectly fine.

>>2708644
>It makes cash.

A logical reason to allow the sexualization of children.

There is no logical reason why glorification of murder should be allowed in entertainment. It sends a clear message that this sort of thing is acceptable and that is what no society can afford.

>>2708644
>VN
>blatant pornographic
It's like I'm really on /a/!

Ban sex.

>>2708660
Retard. It is a matter of degree. This is why graphical violence is banned from minor viewing, too.

Graphical violence to children in entertainment is also barely allowed and very restricted thing in todays legislation.

>>2708678
>to children
Do I really have to point this out?

>>2708678
No, it isn't. At the most, you'll get some organization like the MPAA or ESRB to give you a rating.

>>2708678
>Graphical violence to children in entertainment is also barely allowed

Only if you live in England. Most places don't have any laws involving that.

>>2708693
And?

The point is that it is a matter of degree. Just because one questionable thing is allowed does not mean that every extremity should be legalised. There is a fair argument of why this specific thing should most definitely be not legalised. And that is why it will not be, no matter how much you bitch and moan about it.

So, the sexualization of children is the bane of society, but the mass murder and torture of healthy adults is A-OK?

>>2708710
No, there isn't. It's speech, and speech should be free from government regulation. It doesn't matter what the content is or how extreme.

>>2708710

>Just because one questionable thing is allowed does not mean that every extremity should be legalised

Who's to deem one extreme more fit than the other?

>>2708710
>There is a fair argument of why this specific thing should most definitely be not legalised.
You keep saying this but you apparently don't actually know what this "fair argument" is...

>>2708727
Speech? Nigga what? Virtually raping women and molesting children while youre furiously beating your meat to the sight on your brand new LCD screen has nothing to do with "speech".

>>2708710
>Just because one questionable thing is allowed does not mean that every extremity should be legalise
What's the logic behind that?

Also
>legalise

You're British. this thread makes so much more sense now. Enjoy your police state.

>>2708650
There is actually a definition of that. I'm not sure when they did it, but they did make at least some attempts to distinguish art from porn with something more than "I'll know it when I see it". Might have been when someone was complaining about Sally Mann's photos in the WSJ.

>>2708736

Yes it does.

Learn2/artistic expression.

>>2708743
XD

>>2708743
Since when did the definition of art include porn?

>>2708753
Since Man discovered he liked to paint tits.

>>2708736
Drawing = form of expression = speech.

>>2708753
Erotica ≠ porn

>>2708760
Erm ... wrong. there is a grey area where it becomes porn and no long is protected as art.

>>2708753
Porn doesn't necessarily mean obscenity.

>>2708772
No, there isn't. Enjoy your oppressive police state.

Could you fucking pig disgusting woman leave this board?

And btw the topic is rape not child porn, and adult entertainment not entertainment and drawn fiction not real action. Fucking moron

>>2708791
>there is a dick up my ass. can you remove it for me?

A useless note thank you.

>>2708791
That's fine. I always imagine myself as the girl on the receiving end, anyway, else it isn't arousing.

>>2708791
No reason to. You are all bitching about someone not releasing something you weren't going to pay for. Its a net zero argument really. This thread is full of retards, I figured I might as well pull retarded shit I found in other threads of yours.

>>2708795
>repeatedly, until I climax in an explosion of semen

There is no logical reason why glorification of opposition should be allowed in entertainment. It sends a clear message that this sort of thing is acceptable and that is what no society can afford.

ITT baawww I cannot masturbate to pictures of children. The police state is violating my freedomm of speech. I mean, masturbation. Oh wait, there is not such thing as "freedom of maturbation", silly me.

>>2708809
I wasn't going to pay for it because I wasn't going to play it, smart one.

There is no logical reason why glorification of opposition should be allowed in entertainment. It sends a clear message that this sort of thing is not acceptable and that is what no society can afford.

>>2708815
Actually, there is.

If you want to get technical, there's no such thing as government.

It's just an entity which uses brute force to strip you of your rights.

Much like rapists, actually.

There is no logical reason why glorification of freedom should be allowed in entertainment. It sends a clear message that this sort of thing is not acceptable and that is what no sustainable society can afford.

>>2708815
You can masturbate all you want as long as you don't do it in public. You can also think about anything you please while you do it.

>there is not such thing as "freedom of maturbation"

What, yes there is. Can't discriminate based on sexual preferences, etc

>>2708815
Technically, it's the government oppressing the game developer's freedom of speech. The people playing it are just bystanders.

>>2708809
You are the only retard here raping the thread with your faulty weasel logic.

>>2708829
No, they have the right to LEAVE THE EOCS.

>>2708829
Because making money out of drawn child porn does have something to do with freedom of speech?

Newsflash: IT DOESNT LOL
Newsflash vol 2: There are rules in society. You cannot go "omg my freedom of murder is depraved by evil government".

>>2708837
>Your rights aren't being oppressed by the world, because you can always RUN AWAY AND LIVE IN HIDING or KILL YOURSELF.
owate, everyone who belongs on /jp/ is doing the former, nvm.

>>2708837
Yes and when the mafia comes to your house you have the right to decline their offer.

>>2708815
Way to make assumptions there.
Whether or not you partake in a questionable medium has no bearing on your inclination to stand up for it.
I may not support what you say, but I do support your right to say it.

>>2708841
So you can't say the government is evil because the evil government says you can't.

That's nice.

>>2708844
Pretty much. Just like how I support legalization of drugs but I wouldn't personally touch the shit. (And I also wouldn't oppose lacing all of them with poison when they hit store shelves...)

>>2708841
NEWSFLASH: It does.

>>2708841
underage trolls go there --> /a/

>>2708841
Except that murder has a clear victim where virtual child porn does not. No victim = no crime.

>>2708842
No, what I said is they have the right to say "fuck you" to the cabal and go do their own shit. You don't HAVE to have your game rated. You only have to do so to put it in a PHYSICAL store. You are selling computer software to people who spend almost all their time inside on the computer. I don't think it would be such a bad idea to just make internet releases.

>>2708847
No. Because every law is based on a separate moral argument. The idea that everything should be unregulated just because you personally like it is fucking stupid.

>>2708857
>Except that murder has a clear victim
Does it, though?

Can you really be considered a victim if you do not live to suffer the effects of the crime?

>>2708862
Murder leaves many clear victims. The dead person isn't one of them.

>>2708861
>Because every law is based on a separate moral argument.
Yes, like the slavery laws were based on the moral argument that black people are evil because black and evil are always associated.

>>2708862

herp de derp a person dying only affects one person

Why does the news about regulating rape and rape-simulator games become one guy in this thread constantly bringing up child related topics into his "argument"?

>>2708862
I'm sure being dead counts as suffering, even if your nerves are no longer functioning.

>>2708869
same reason we have the HERP DERP KSdev conspiricy fag

>>2708869
Guess he figures they are more child-lovers on /jp/ than rape-lovers.

>>2708867
Of course. Morals differ.

"i like to wank off to cartoons" is not an argument.

>>2708870
Okay, add him to the total as well.

>>2708866
Ah, that is true, I agree. In fact, I was thinking the same thing when I posted it, but I left it out. Either I'm a dick or I'm looking for a discussion--take your pick.

Still, if you killed the potential victims as well, wouldn't it become a victimless crime? I'm well aware that it's a pretty ridiculous hypothetical, but assuming it somehow was possible.

>>2708862

>Can you really be considered a victim if you do not live to suffer the effects of the crime?

>effects of the crime
>not live

Do understand how murder works?

>>2708877
No, because then you have to kill everyone attached to them. It, then its just a very vicious cycle of seek and destroy.

>>2708878
So my argument is dumb because its component circumstances are inherent to the topic of discussion?

wat

>>2708882
But if you do kill all of them, it's not vicious anymore, is it?

>>2708882

Which probably will never end until everyone everywhere is dead except you.

But then, yeah, I guess you're off scot-free.

>>2708859
Learn 2 politics. I have stated it in the last threads, this is clearly an act of oppression to drive certain scenarios and products out of business. Period. No discussion. No weasel logic. Case closed.

The products doesn't break any laws therefore they must be allowed to be sold and distributed freely. Period.

Oppression doesn't mean and never had the total prohibition of something, but the regulation and restriction of distribution and public opinion.

>>2708885
I guess, but then you will likely have no one left on earth to boast to or kill. Very lonely, if you didn't already have to kill yourself in the process.

>>2708886
In addition, you are now a god.

>>2708886
Doubtful. I'm almost certainly not the only one who thinks this way.

And besides, any suffering caused in the process can easily be justified by the vastly improved society made up of all of the people who earned their life.

>>2708893
I'm not boastful, anyway, and I find the idea of killing pretty nauseating. One of those instinctual things.

RAPE FINALLY BECOMES A NICHE PRODUCT

PRAISE THE LORD

>>2708891
This is what happens when you keep pushing boundaries. You eventually get a rubber band effect. If you didn't see this coming 5+ years ago, I'm sorry, but you were fucking blinder than shit.

>>2708905
Rubber bands are made to be pushed to the limit! Snap that motherfucker, break the bounds, go beyond the impossible!

...Okay, I'm done.

The reason gamemakers were creating rape eroges was because there was a market for it. Nice job putting some people out of work, Nippon

>MangaGamer has apparently removed their upcoming game Suck my dick or die! and one of their current games, My sex slave is a classmate, from their lineup.

And this my dear fellows, is why I pirate. You never know when a game suddenly disappears before you had the money to buy it.

Just shame I didn't get the chance to pirate My sex slave is a classmate. It seemed borderline playable.

Anyone who bought it that is up for pirating it now that it is abandonware?

I actually hate rape in VNs. Mainly because I hate faceless dirty men.
gonna love this and the trollan.

>>2709990
So you pirate all video games because you're afraid they're going to get banned?

>>2708487
>Video games about rape
>Dignity

>>2709990 And this my dear fellows, is why I pirate. You never know when a game suddenly disappears before you had the money to buy it.
Quit trying to retroactively excuse your piracy. You aren't some kind of freedom fighter or moral crusader. You're just a damn tightwad.

>>2710025
I am a freedom fighter and a moral crusader.

Anarchist communism lol.

>>2710032 Anarchist communism
So... I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that you're in high school and your favorite band is Anti-Flag.

>>2710041
Dropped out in the eighth grade and my favorite band is See-Saw.

>>2710050
>Dropped out in the eighth grade

You fucking idiot.

>and my favorite band is See-Saw.

Well, that's not such a bad thing.

>>2710068
>You fucking idiot.
Somehow, I imagined that in Greg House's voice.

>>2708607

Porn serves as a substitute for rape.

That is, if pornography is available, then people are less inclined to go out and commit rape.

Therefore, child porn prevents child rape.

>>2710126

http://www.law.stanford.edu/display/images/dynamic/events_media/Kendall%20cover%20+%20paper.pdf

>>2710126
By that logic, school massacres would never happen because there are games like Counter Strike, Medal Of Honor and Duke Nukem Forever.

>>2710126
That is, if laziness is caused, then people are less inclined to go out and commit crimes.

Therefore, laziness is a virtue.

>>2710141

Except sexual assault and murder are apples and oranges.

>>2710148
Mash them together in a blender and they taste delicious!

>>2710148
Both very tasty.

> Gogeta is back.
Sage.