/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I vaguely heard Kaguya's theme.

/a/ is over that way
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anime should be banned, I agree


we should sell japan back to china, let them sort it out

Japan is a country founded on insecurity and fail

hi

>>2692270

Get a new hobby, you suck at this one.

ITT butthurt weeaboos and Japs (Saps)

>>2692270
I am a manga person.

>>2692307
It's actually just the OP posting over and over again.

I don't know man, I think anime is pretty cool! Here's a cool picture to get you started on anime!

>>2692321
Cake based danmaku?

>>2692270
wrong board faggot. Reported and hidden

>>2692344

reported for what? it's a cultural criticism.

>>2692321
/r/ing more moe K-ON gifs.

>>2692351
get out

>>2692351
Amazing what passes off as criticism these days.

>>2692351
>Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.

But you’re too nerdy and ugly to get a decent girl.
You poor little confused white kids wish you were Japs.

All i see here is a racist rant.

>>2692353
Here's another one I have.

This wasn't posted to troll. I want to know why people like Anime. My opinions may be put harshly but it's what I've seen and believe.

try harder next time, kid

>>2692366
so now you're giving yourself a name so you can credit yourself with this "EPIC TROLLING"

you're bad at this

>>2692369
It's copypasta and a troll.

>>2692376

lol fail

>>2692369
i want to fuck an anime now go away

because 3d pig disgusting, and american cartoons are trying too hard to emulate 3d.

>>2692379

I'm the one who originally wrote it. I see nothing wrong with copypasting myself. And I can't help it if other people go around copypasting it on /a/ and /b/ all the time.

>>2692369

>>2692292
sounds like the USA to me

Anyways, anime was inspired by Disney and old American cartoons in general. Before you talk about "wide eye, little body and girly voice or big breasts"

I present to you Mickey/Minnie Mouse, Olive Oil, Betty Boop and Jessica Rabbit.

So if you're going to blame anime, better blame Walt Disney, Warner Bros. etc etc etc.

>>2692386
Congratulations, you're fucking stupid.

>>2692405

Um, Anime originates back to the 1910's or so. That Disney shit was created the 20's/30''s. You're wrong

I stopped watching anime just recently.

I enjoyed the old series like Patlabor, GITS, NGE, etc., but these days it's all the same shit with a new name and I can't stand wasting my time on it anymore. There aren't any "epic" series anymore, just above average crap.

>>2692417
You're wrong.

>>2692435

Prove it

>>2692418
I stopped watching anime just recently.
I enjoyed the old series like Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Macross Frontier, etc., but these days it's all the same shit with a new name and I can't stand wasting my time on it anymore. There aren't any "epic" series anymore, just above average crap.

>>2692417
While anime does pre-date it mostly it wasn't what you see today. It was influenced by Disney later on.

"The success of Disney's 1937 feature film Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs influenced Japanese animators.[8] In the 1960s, Osamu Tezuka adapted and simplified many Disney animation techniques to reduce costs and number of frames in the production. He intended this as a temporary measure to allow him to produce material on a tight schedule with inexperienced animation staff."

>>2692445

>>2692417
partially maybe, but it doesn't change the fact it was influenced later on, much like how a lot of American animators today try to adapt "anime" into their art style, yet fail horribly imo.

OP here with new questions:

Why do the characters in Anime generally appear to be caucasian? I've heard a lot of different answers and don't know what to think.
Also, seriously, why is Anime always so effeminate and cutesy? I think it has something to do with Asian culture.

>>2692471
>Why do the characters in Anime generally appear to be caucasian? I've heard a lot of different answers and don't know what to think.

They don't.

>>2692471

Wow, that picture is faggotry incarnate. This is surely a good way to kick of a meaningful conversation.

Watch Ghost in the Shell, Fist of the North Star, or most seinen shows. You seem to be one of those idiots who believe that all Japanese cartoons are like Dragonball Z.

>>2692476

Yes they do

>>2692487
>Fist of the North Star

Very funny. Even DBZ is better than that shit, take off the nostalgia goggles.

>>2692471
>Why do the characters in Anime generally appear to be caucasian?
I've never thought that they do. They usually don't look Japanese either though. Anime artstyle is generally too unrealistic to look like any particular ethnicity.

sage

Actually, I have a question for the OP, and people like him.

Why the hell do you keep coming to /jp/ with "Why does Japane *Insert uninformed stereotype that's based on what the user has seen in their cartoons*" questions? Can't you educate yourselves? Is the very thought that Japanese cartoon are purely fantasy elude you? seriously, we get this shit so often, it's not even worth answering anymore.

Also, where the hell did "LOL! /jp/ LURVS NIPPON " come from?

>>2692488
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKTvFhRbBt8
"Are anime characters caucasian or japanese"

Makes some good points

>>2692497
They look more Caucasian than Americans in American cartoons do.

Because I find them interesting. Not all of them, of course.
I don't care if it's way too effeminate or if the story is silly, as long as it entertains me, I'm fine.
By the way, I wonder why is it so cool to hate anime?

>>2692501

I think Asians are generally effeminate. I also think Asians have some insecurity about their appearance/body. These are trends I have noticed. For instance, I saw a documentary on how Asians get plastic surgery to look like Western girls. I'm not saying the goal of the having surgery is too look Western, but the look they get happens to be the way Western girls look.
I don't like it when white Western kids dig Japan's cultural exports. It's a bad influence.

>>2692509
>Some people consider it a serious enough issue that they write formal academic papers on it
Fucking christ.

>>2692540
>I don't like it when white Western kids dig Japan's cultural exports.
So you're just angry because people are doing something you don't like, even though it has no effect on you. Do you realize how childish you sound?

>>2692540
>I don't like it when white Western kids dig Japan's cultural exports. It's a bad influence.

I'd think we'd be more of a bad influence to Japan, than they would be to us.

>>2692553

Of course it affects me. I'm watching Adult Swim, a good show ends, and some crap Anime show comes on. Instead of quality shows they often run crap Anime during the time slots.
It also affects me if friends of mine get into Anime and start being affected by it. This happened with my roommate a year ago.

>>2692569
Blame Adult Swim for buying shitty anime. Also I fail to see how most of the stuff airing right now on that shit hole is any good aside from Venture Brothers and Metalocalypse.

>>2692569

>good show
>Adult Swim

You got an oxymoron there bub.

>>2692580
I like Superjail.

>>2692580

You mean blame you kiddos for wanting Anime

>>2692569
Then your roommate had mental issues then if watching a series effected him in a negative manner.

Sorry, Adult Swim lost quality shows a while ago and get filled with bullshit like Tim & Eric and Squidbillies

>>2692592
Blame the internet for making foreign countries media readily accessible merely clicks away. Blame the way free market works, blame every consumer and every provider but don't blame the stagnant old media.

>>2692270
>horrible voice acting

I luled. Obviously he hasn't watch proper anime in Japanese and not some english dubbed Pokemon.

>>2692270
I'm relatively wealthy, brown, and like anime.

Am I not welcome here?

>>2692655

Get out please

when i read this thread i realized that in my previous life i was murdered by being thrown into a large vat of some extremely corrosive battery acid because reading this thread felt a whole lot like that.

>>2692651
Get back to /b/.

>Why do you like movies? Do you like it because the guys in it have a thin little woman body, big baby eyes, and a girl’s voice?
Or is it the shitty direction, ridiculous stories, and horrible acting? What is there to like about movies? Also, why are you so obsessed with Hollywood? You realize the girls there want to look like whores, don’t you? But you’re too nerdy and ugly to get a decent whore.
I take it that you’re a bunch of feminine pussies that need a medium where the males are always borderline faggots. You poor little confused white kids wish you were actors.

See what I did? When you learn to produce an actual argument, OP, you can try again.

>>2692665
??

>>2692688

So you agree that Anime is as shitty as mainstream movies? Ok

>>2692709
Well, yeah. This isn't opera we are talking about. It's pop culture.

I'm still wondering why this is here considering /jp/ is generally VNs, eroge,3D girl fags, and Touhou. This isn't an anime board.

>>2692270

WAIT WAIT!!! HOLD ON!!!
I thought 4chan are for weeaboos and basement dwellers.

Hey, mods, can we have a permaban for everyone who bumped this thread? Please?

>>2692727
>/jp/
>mods.
Wat?

> troll thread
> 69 posts and 17 image replies omitted.

Goddamn, /jp/. You are better than this.

no one has answered OP's questions

>>2692777
Yes they were. Read the thread.

>>2692777
Several people have answered OP's questions. Now stop bumping

>>2692471

Read the whole thread guys. No one has really addressed these.

>>2692773
75% of the posts are the OP.

>>2692810

are not

>>2692803
Fine I'll fucking spoon feed it to the dumbass.
>Why do you like anime? Do you like it because the guys in it have a thin little woman body, big baby eyes, and a girl’s voice?
Considering you watch that shit for programming on Adult Swim I'll assume you're talking about the shit they show on there. They have another show they frequently repeat on there Cowboy Bebop, and Spike is none of those things. Stop assuming all anime is the same because it ranges in quality and style like most media. (Movies, TV, Games, etc...)
>Or is it the shitty animation, ridiculous stories, and horrible voice acting?
I wouldn't be talking about animation quality, and stories when you claim to enjoy Adult Swim programming. But American voice acting for anime has been terrible with few exceptions, which isn't anything new or changing anytime soon.
>What is there to like about anime?
Immersive material from a different country, most animation now adays has been dumbed down to be fed to retard children who can't pay attention long enough if there isn't a fucking explosion or farting animal on the damn show.
>Also, why are you so obsessed with Japan? You realize the girls there want to look like Western girls, don’t you? But you’re too nerdy and ugly to get a decent girl.
I'm not I just enjoy some of their programming. I don't give a fuck, and I'm full well capable of getting a girl if I wasn't a lazy fuck.
>I take it that you’re a bunch of feminine pussies that need a medium where the males are always borderline faggots. You poor little confused white kids wish you were Japs.
Wrong. wrong. wrong. Fucking stereotyping faggot grow a brain. The only fucking people who wish they where Japs are the fucking shithole fucks with you in the Adult Swim fandom.

>>2692836
Why are you taking this guy seriously? Stop it.

>>2692471

Thanks for the quality lengthy response but I was more answered in these being addressed.

>>2692843

interested*

contributing relevant picture

>>2692843
meet >>2692509
also
>http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html

excerpt: "Why do you think they look Caucasian?” “Because of the round eyes,” or the “blonde hair,” is the common response. When I ask then if the questioner actually knows anyone, “Caucasian” or otherwise, who really looks anything like these highly stylized cartoons, the response may be, “Well, they look more Caucasian than Asian.” Considering the wide range of variation in the features of persons of both European and East Asian descent, and the fact that these line drawings fall nowhere remotely within that range, it seems odd to claim that such cartoons look “more like” one people than another, but I hope you will see by now that what is being discussed has nothing to do with objective anatomical reality, but is rather about signification."

"Interestingly, in a manga in which Chinese or European characters are the majority, such as a story set in China or Europe, majority characters are generally drawn exactly as Japanese characters would be drawn in a manga set in Japan, without any racial stereotyping at all. In the context of such a story, the Chinese or European characters are not Other, and markings of Otherness would be superfluous. The artist would make the foreign setting obvious through names, clothing, customs, architecture, and “props,” rather than burdening every character with stereotyped racial features, which would limit her ability to distinguish characters from each other, and would also make it difficult for readers to identify with protagonists. Furthermore, if a Japanese character appears in such a story, she will usually be marked visually as Japanese, although usually only by black hair and eyes. (Readers are often expected to identify with such characters, and more exaggerated markings would interfere with that identification.)

Racial markings in manga, therefore, are generally relative. By contrast, an American comic book set in Japan or China would most likely portray every character with stereotyped racial signifiers (and probably with contrived accents, as well). It may be that Westerners, accustomed to non-relative, standardized racial markers, are baffled by the Japanese system of relative signification, in which a single artist may portray a Chinese character one way in one story (set in Japan), and very differently in another (set in China)."

>>2692880

so they do look more Caucasian than Asian. Why is the style like that?

SRSLYguise

Why the hell do you bother?

>>2692890
It has nothing to do with racial marking. The blue eyes, purple hair and dark skin are all style, it isn't always related to the identity of the characters in the way you'd normally expect it to be.

I like the fact that noone in this thread has the reading comprehension skills to notice that the people they're responding to don't have reading comprehension skills.

Just stop responding. We gave him his answers if he was every serious. He can pull his head out of his ass and ponder on what he has been told or ignore it an accept his opinion as fact.

>>2692900

So if white people didn't exist the style wouldn't be like that? Early it was noted that Western animation has heavily influenced Anime, so obviously you're wrong.

>>2692913
So every american character was blonde then, or requred to be blonde in order to be considered an american character, is that what you're saying?

>>2692915

Um no. Part of the reason this is going nowhere is because you guys keep misconstruing what I'm saying.
I'm saying they make the Japanese characters look Western.

>>2692919
So you're saying it's completely intentional and not just the basics of which most of the target influence stemmed from?

>>2692924

Yes, they intentionally make the Japanese characters look white. They don't want them to look Asian.

>>2692930
I lol'd so hard. Surely you jest... right?

Japs wish they were white

As far as I know, neither japanese nor whites have huge eyes and crazy hair/eye colors. Anime characters look like neither.

>>2692936
Did this just to get this out of him so you can stop replying. This asshole won't listen to shit and just believes everyone wants to be like his race. THREAD OVAR

Why is this thread still here? Wake up mods!

What I learned from this thread:

Japs wish they were white and it's reflected in their cartoons.

Meh I don't wish I were Japanese.

I wish I were Han Solo

>>2692945
So you learned nothing and continue to assert your opinion when valid answers are provided. Go back to your clan meeting Billy Bob.

Ahaha, oh god this thread was a hoot.

One thing though, why is it that TV channels only show really crap animu? I mean, Cowboy Bebop is good, but it's kinda stale after the 5th time. Not to mention, if it's the ONLY good thing on, something's wrong.

this thread

>>2692959
Buying new series costs money.

>>2692966

no, the answer is that you kids like shit Anime

>>2692973
But I like masturbating to cartoons.

>>2692975
Here you go my good sir.

>>2692975

nothing wrong with that

Another question, is there a Japanese equivalent of the comedy shows on Adult Swim, Fox, etc.. Or is it all the overly dramatic silly-ass Anime stuff I've seen.

>>2692975
>cartoons

>>2693009
There a problem, skank?