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FUCK SHARKS

FUCK Calliope Mori and her greed.
FUCK Deadbeats.
FUCK Deadbeats sing.

Elementary, my dear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGnKjLhQV2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjYbySsGl4

chess stream when

This thread makes no sense.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IM CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMING GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Fire houses three emblems is boring. Kiara should play Rainbow six.

>>26857055
Hololive chess tournament when?

https://streamable.com/szc1po
Reminder to send ame your akasupas so she can buy a new fan for her switch

Which one should play FNAF?

>>26856891
Cut the girl some slack. She did say she's still going to be reevaluating things. She stated plenty of times before that she's learning as she goes, she's very inexperienced. And I know someone's going to bring up that why can't she ask other people for advice but again that's easier said than done, especially when Mori seems kind of awkward.

PAY UP.

>>26857040

>>26857052
Birdfags stand with Mori and the deadbeats, fuck off anti shitter.

>>26856891
It's understandable. It's either you you pay the big bucks to be able to see everything or you're a fucking casual who can only see one stream. It loses the inclusivity and makes you feel less than. That's why even most twitchfags only add emotes as bonus perks for giving them more money.

Chunny

>>26857086
>>26856891
Wait, you folks GENUINELY, unironically now think that this girl was just pretending all along to bait whales?
That's some actual psychosis. Is this a 3rd world thing?

I'm starting to begin to understand how people can be gachikoi...
She's just the best. All the accidents and horrible things she got into as a kid ended up shaping her into this adorable girl who I have a full on crush now at the minimum.

>>26857061
>Not purple
one job anon

Okay, how about this narrative

The paywall system is something being enforced on Mori by the higher ups, she knew this beforehand and disliked it, which is why she acted so awkward and insecure in all the streams before it was finally announced

>>26857092
>Wait, you folks GENUINELY, unironically now think that this girl was just pretending all along to bait whales?

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth.

>>26857052
Just print more money, poorfag

>>26857092
It's SEAnig hours, what did you expect

Among Us membership participation when?

Blame Canada.

>>26857079
Dios mio...

>>26857108
It's clearly a bait post

So we back to talking about memberships prices since we literally have nothing else to talk about, huh?

>>26857088
>Chunny
oh that's good, that's real good

>>26857097
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IMGOINGINSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>26857052
"Based"

/hlgg/ is my only source of human interaction with peers :'^)

>>26856891
Maybe I'm just in damage control mode but I still feel like it's all because of her inexperience and autism that she's doing things this way and by some stroke of beginner's luck it actually works. I want to believe her higher-tier streams come from the perspective of people should get something for paying more, but she doesn't realize the negative repercussions of that. I'll just keep watching and hoping I'm right I guess.

>>26857098
This is a depressing narrative so nobody wants to believe it

>>26857098
>Mori said on stream it was her idea
>Moricucks still trying to cope
Yeah right, and the barp emotes?

All future gens should have one month of no monetization. It killed both EN and Gen 5

>>26857098
I expect that to be the case personally. Since Mori was the first to get membership, she was the one they'd use to see how far they could push the HoloEN fanbase.

>>26857137
That's more like it

>>26857135
we can talk about how artia is a stupid retard that deserves to have her fat face curbstomped.

>>26857052
>FUCK Deadbeats sing
What's wrong, out of breath already?
I know I was.

>>26857117
You'd be amazed how many if the 3rd world countries these anons came from tried to do exactly that. There's a reason the Argentinian peso is worth less than the paper it's printed on.

>>26857098
Nah, the actual narrative is that the higher ups determined her pricing, but she decided on the perks because in her retarded mind people should get more for paying more

>>26856466
You have no idea how poggers I am for the new outfit.

>>26856908
>>26856898
It was only an article slandering her, no proof whatsoever.

The "proof" some are talking about was that her old twitter profile supposedly retweeted that article. But this account was created 2015 and she used that twitter handle already years before, meaning her old twitter got deleted and someone else claimed that name to make a new account to badmouth her. Some retards actually believed she would retweet an article calling her a whore.

reported the tranny for anons that don't have twitter

When do memberships get charged, start of every month?

>Color Out of Space
>It's just missing textures

>>26857160
This is what makes the most sense

>>26857141
Same

>>26857098
Makes sense, they saw she was the one getting the most superchats, so they decided to use her as testing grounds to see if this system would work

>>26857098
She put the gaming stream, the thing people really want to see, on a higher tier, and put the talk stream, the thing that benefits from having fewer people, on the lower tier.

>>26857148
>ONE (1) EN has announced her shitty membership plan and spaghetti'd her SCs
>all the other ones are doing fine
Maybe you're just not watching the right girls?

>>26857040
didnt realized watson was on an eroge

>>26857075
Either Ame or Mori. I’m sure Gura likes it but she won’t get far with shark brain.

>>26857098
I thought we already established they have full control on their memberships? We just came to the conclusion that Mori just inherently doesn't understand how hololive works. The only one that actually understands what hololive is in a nutshell is ironically kiara.

>>26857135
Wuh oh, you forgot the cat with the tired eyes and the suicidal post anon!

Would the mantis shrimp be able to comprehend magenta's true nature?
Mantis shrimp holo when.

>>26857144
I feel the same. She's clearly not super informed about Hololive and streaming in general, saw that there were multiple membership tiers and wanted every tier to feel worthwhile.

>>26857196
>The only one that actually understands what hololive is in a nutshell is ironically kiara.

Ina.

>>26857079
Perfect

>>26857052
DEADBRAPS RIP IT NOW

>>26857175
Was that movie good or complete garbage? I dont know if I want to curse my eyes with a Nicholas Cage movie

>>26857153
>yfw she gets her new live2d and her face isnt like that anymore

>>26857040
What's the deal with Kiara, Birdfags? I saw she overreacted to one simp's comment and pretend cried and some people said she can do that shit on command in her previous persona. Is she gunna turn out to be a drama thot? That's the shit I watch Hololive to specifically avoid. It'd be shit watching EN devolve into them being jewish thots or cherry picking one comment out of thousands of simps to cry over and brand everyone toxic.

>>26857086
>>26856891
Her streams have no content anyway.

>>26857218
Ah very true anon, my mistake!

I love Gura and Ina.

>>26857212
That's a good question. It's possible they might not even be capable of seeing it like humans do.

I hope one of the HoloENStars is a really hammy space hero guy like Captain Quark from Ratchet and Clank.

Is it possible to get Moona to sing Fleetwood Mac?

>>26857144
This. Being given many 100 dollar donations without being able to give anything back feels like shit if you've had to work hard for money all your life. This was her master plan to give something back to the people who support her with the big bucks, but she clearly didn't think the whole thing through.

>>26857212
Kind of a long video, but if you care at all it's pretty interesting
https://youtu.be/fDoAs0qN7lU

>>26857147
Mate Cover is based in Japan and saying anything bad about the place you work for will end with you end of a job

membership isn't an announcement Watson.
If you do the same prices as Mori, I'll never watch you again.

That Ina watch along was a lot of fun. I hope i can catch it live next time so i can watch it with you guys too.

>>26857212
>Mantis shrimp holo when.
When martial arts and combat theme GEN is announced

>>26857237
She's just fake. She's a cosplay thot from Austria who is obsessed with Japan and Japanese antics, what do you expect.
Nothing Kiara does is genuine outside of her misandry.

Sharking T-minus 10 hours

>>26857052
What did you expect from an American living in Japan? 95% of them have an instinct of a common jew.

>>26857237
She attracts drama anon, it's her character flaw.

>>26857247
Based sharkbro, post that one picture of sharkbro and squidbro

>>26857229
It's was decent - Ina

"Watson Detective Agency"

>"Yeah, I gotta question for you, Little Miss Diwectow; is Fiwebewt a good commando name?"

"...Sir, I have more important matters to attend to at this moment." *click*

"Firebert? what an awful name for a commando."

>>26857261
she's gonna announce her nestle sponsorship

>>26857229
It have Nick Cage in it so it will be good anyway

>>26857160
This is exactly how it went down. Anyone that grew up in rural america understands. The community is always eager to give charitably, but there's no greater shame than becoming a charity case. The concept of "teehee just pay more to support me" is alien to her, so she tried to make sure each tier had something worth the money and now she's stuck providing triple the monthly member content that other vtubers offer and SEAmonkeys are still going to cry jew.

>>26857229
>curse your eyes with Nick Cage
Only increases the effect of blessing your ears with Ina's voice

>>26857079
El Negrohombre del Extinguido...

>>26857277
Hi Ina show your tits

>>26857098
You honestly believe that Hololive went from no regulations expecting people to pay 5 dollars for sreams to jump STRAIGHT to 25 dollars with absolutely no water testing before that?

She decided the pricing, she decided the rewards.

>>26857289
>seamonkeys
some seamonkeys are alright, this is just /v/ and /pol/ that scream at anyone that ever does something for money.

>>26857266
i set an alarm to do some sleep reps and ended up putting the wrong alarm and woke up to it being over. So disappointed for missing it.

My coping narrative is that she felt bad about charging people for tiers with no benefits so she wanted to do something, but she didn't realize how that would alienate lower-tier members.

But it doesn't matter because only /hlgg/ is seething about this

>>26857270
my god

>>26857267
What animal has the strongest kicks? Kangaroo?
God have mercy the day we get an actual aussie holo.

>>26857269
Three Houses might unironically make her stop the dude hating. She's quite fond of WAGA NA WA and Sylvain.

>>26857270
I honestly can't believe this sharkbubble is genuine.

>>26857230
I just hope they take her eyeballs and put them on the front of her fucking face. I hate this stupid hammerhead gremlin.

>>26857303
THIS is the water testing, anon. They saw how crazy her superchats got and thought it was the perfect testing grounds for this

>>26857290
>>26857277
>>26857286
Alright, I'll watch then. Thanks.

>>26857196
>I thought we already established they have full control on their memberships?
And how did you manage to establish something without evidence? Go on, SEAbro. I'll wait.

>>26857269
How do you guys know this stuff? Cite sources.

>>26857261
Good. Please leave.

so did Kiara enjoy Fire Emblem?

S*nzawa is a better rapper than Mori.
There I said it.

>>26857098
gen 5 was about the same hype as Mori and they have no paywalls membership btw

I want to believe in Mori. I think she will get a lot of feedback and change her tiers as much as she can to be more reasonable and/or inline with other holos. If it's not addressed (or even mentioned) in the next week or so, then I'd be more inclined to believe she's less than innocent.

Bros I just watched Color out of Space with Ina's watch along. I thought it was Ok, with great practical effects and a decent cast. The last 5-10 mins were a great section of computer visuals. Apparently the director is going to be working on more Lovecraft films, which I look forward to.

>>26857170
Thank you.

>>26857284
From now on when the Switch overheats she'll say "have a break, have a kitkat"

what's the deal with Cage, I've never watched a movie with him

>>26857328
>Please doxx
Get out.

>>26857332
Can SHE ever be stopped?

>>26857269
ogey

>>26857261
I will, can't help myself.

>Amelia $5 tier
member streams + emotes + blog posts
>Amelia $10 tier
play with viewers access + more emotes
>Amelia $20 tier
always makes new small 1-2 minute clips of her waking you up in the morning or saying good night to you ASMR style as if you were her BF

>>26857095
A true Waifu

>>26857212
>Mantis shrimp Holo
>it's just Mantisshrimpp's ocdonut
Oh. Oh no.

>>26857347
>Please post narratives without any proof to back them up
Why

>>26857172
Shouldn't it charge 30 days after your registration? because if you subscribe like on the 20th, they can't charge you for just 10 days, today is already 25th for example.

>>26857327
>>26857196
Didn't she only put the stuff in the memberships and not the cost?

>>26857247
Ina is slowly climbing to the top of my list. she feels more genuine? not sure how to describe it

Kiara's new profile-picture is cute.

>>26857330
Yeah, so far.

>>26857282
These are always gold

>>26857307

>>26857315
>God have mercy the day we get an actual aussie holo.
What do you want someone to sound like one?

>>26857368
She isn't fake whore like Kiara and Mori

>>26857357
one of the tiers should be coupons

>>26857369
her Pekolust is cute I like how Kiara is a fan of hololive just like us

>>26857345
His acting is very over-the-top but skilled. He gos all into a ridicilous degree which makes him perfect for films that aren't entirely serious.
In Mandy he screams at the top of his lungs in underpants in a small bathroom. It is incredible.

>>26857362
Cryptid hologen when
>tfw no Mothman chuba

>>26857334
You have to let her know somehow, though.

>one peesa kitkat $5
>two peesa kitkat $15
>Japanese imported kitkat $30

>>26857357
No it will $1000 for tier 1 or did you forget she love money?

>>26857380
I hope at least one of the holoENs doesn't follow Mori's tiers so all these "i-it's the management!!" faggots go on suicide watch

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Bh411R7yg/
>her voice at 00:55
ITS HER ITS FUCKING HER

>>26857345
He's the most prolific actor in Hollywood

what's wrong with Mori's SC? You don't HAVE TO BUY IT?

>>26857357
She could paywall her watchalongs if she does them.

>>26857334
Even if Mori wanted to axe the whole membership thing and make it as simple as "one stream a month for $5, that's it" like other holos, she can't do it because people already paid her, and she has to deliver. So for anything to change, you'll have to wait at least a month.

>>26857050
Problem, mutton chops?

>>26857337
same here, ina is so comfy. the movie spooked me a bit as well.

>>26857396
Becoming a member of Hololive just to get closer to your waifu is a big, bold move and I have full respect for Kiara. Living the dream of all pekofags.

>>26857402
wendigo chuuba..

>>26857380
You're not less of a part of the "community" just because you're missing one stream. You are an entitled piece of shit if you think you should have access to everything they ever do for paying a sandwich every month.
I'm gonna be waiting for you fags to get a free ticket for holofes because you membership the lowest tier to 2 holos.

>>26857402
Nessia chuba when

>>26857357
This is much too reasonable

>>26857398
>every week a new coupon
>first coupon is amelia softly talking you to sleep
>next week coupon is amelia wakes you up in the morning and kisses you
>week after a coupon for a clip where she finds out you keep looking at her feet and have a fetish for it and she bullies you for it

>https://youtu.be/iXUtt7MeI0g
>carried a 5 hours stream of shit game and switch melting with her banter and interesting stories.

She's good.

Bros Ame will reach her 300K right as she starts streaming. Hopefully she does her membership today instead of Monday.

>>26857400
>mfw he started dunking the tomatoes

how pissed would you all be if all of EN had 3 membership tiers?

>>26857380
this is the dumbest thing to argue over. if you want good rewards then pay the fuck up. if you can't afford it or aren't willing too then kick rocks.

>>26857055
someone buy kiara 5d chess

>>26857212
No. It being a visible color but otherwise unrecognizable implies that it comes from an entirely different source than where our visible light comes from. Since we can't see anything outside of visible light, and it couldn't be anywhere within it.

An entirely new spectrum, with entirely new colors and radiations we could take advantage of.

>>26857405
I'll send her a 500 dollar superchat telling her I think her membership is too expensive.

>>26857255
There isn't really a problem with what she's doing, though. Folks are claiming to be upset that they'll miss a stream without paying 30 bucks but the truth is that she does almost 10 free streams a week and everyone following her is inevitably going to miss a few anyways.

The principle is that SEAnigs are uncomfortable with a woman charging them money for anything other than sex. They just don't want to admit that they now retroactively believe she's been fake crying for money because they can't mentally process this any other way. It's a caveman culture vs a modern one, Mori being an American girl was going yo create some 3rdworld culture shock sooner or later.

>>26857462
They will, and not very honestly.

>>26857289
>>26857160
>>26857177
What is wrong about getting more if you pay more?

>>26857436
I just hope one day there is a new holo that loves Kiara just as much as Kiara loves peko it would be funny

The scene with the mutated mother crawling to the witch-daughter was the scariest. The whole deal with the mother was freaky.
I liked how Cage really got that "horrible father"-character. He was a piece of shit.

>>26857402
>Holostars UMA
That one's free, YAGOO

>>26857368
Out of all the Hololive talents, Ina needs it the least, and so she's the most confident in being niche. That confidence translates onto the screen

>>26857357
>Amelia $5 tier
member streams + emotes + blog posts
>Amelia $10 tier
1 peesee of kitkat
>Amelia $20 tier
Another peesee of kitkat

>>26857457
OKAY ITS NOT ME I SWEAR

>>26857325
i dunno if water testing thing is legit, but im fucking glad that they did it with mori and not kiara if that is the case. if mori got such heavy backlash, then it would be unbearable to watch people shitting on chicken.

>>26857459
I think she's trying to send us a message, but I can't tell what it is. Amelia, are you okay?

>>26857237
YOOOOOOOOOOOONG OUT

>>26857412
I'm REALLY hoping they're not getting freaked out of over Mori's pricings and I hope they don't decide to adjust to hers.

She played Beat Saber before, what the fuck is Yagoo waiting? give her a 3D avatar so she can stream in 3D while playing BS. It's cool and it goes viral in no time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3VwHhRjHg

I wonder if she's a clumsy player or a pro.

>>26857466
Having a stream with a chat that isn't filled to the brim with poorfag 3rd worlders makes the top tier worth it alone.

>>26857400
>films that aren't entirely serious
And he will even make entirely serious film funny somehow

>>26857363
We've had her dox since the nanosecond she debuted. Go fucking archive search it yourself, lazy nigger.

If you still don't know she's fucked people for money you're new as fuck.

>>26857079
>Negrohombre
I dont speak spanish and this is hilarious

SAVE ME NEGROHOMBRE

>>26857345
When I said "curse my eyes with Cage" I meant more how bad the movies featuring him used to be rather than Cage himself. I dont have anything against his acting. Mandy was cool, though.

The only way mori can redeem herself now is by yelling NIGGER on stream

>>26857380
Based.

Since it's partial ayyy hours with Colourbros, do you guys think we'll find anything in the Venus clouds?

>>26857500
It's too late to adjust moris, desu. People bought the high tier on the promise that they would be getting something more vs a liter tier. If they go back on that there will be riots.

>>26857067
Putting my money on Korone. Seriously.

so what exactly is wrong with Mori's SC I don't get it she's not forcing you to buy it

>>26857415
I fucking swear this shit gets reposted every thread by new faggots who thinks they're onto something no one has ever seen before.
WHERE DO YOU FUCKING TOURISTS COME FROM?

NEVER DONATED
NEVER SUBBED
NEVER MEMBERSHIPPED
FUCK COVER

>>26857462
I don't see a reason to be mad.

>>26857520
that name..... the sound of rain droplets.. anon.. i can't.. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!

>>26857253
You want it ? i can speak bahasa if you need me to,

"holmies" was dropped because apparently it's connected to some mass shooter, why do we have tentacult then, I thought cult and cultists have mostly negative connotations

>>26857237
She recieved a donation criticising her over something she had already been trying to fix in her debut week in front of 10k+ viewers while being the worst performer out of her colleagues. A criticism that complained about the one skill she was proud of and she thought let her stand out in her generation?
Is it really that hard for people to think it was a genuine show of emotion and not crocodile tears?

>>26857481
The problem other people have is that the other Holos only had a stream on one tier and got nothing extra for the other two tiers.
Making extra(extra, not at the cost of her other content because she's quitting her job) content for those that pay more is unheard of.
Or you can merely take it as a glass half empty and see it as her taking away content from you and scream that she's the gigajew

>>26857526
Not saying adjust Mori's, I'm saying I hope the other girls don't follow in her footsteps so she doesn't look like a monkey.

>>26857482
We need a Hololive human centipede, Peko at the top, Kiara's mouth sewed to Peko's ass, the new talent's mouth sewed to Kiara's ass, and so on

>>26857526
The mistake she made was adding shit to every tier to "fix" it, top tier buyers only got access to songs a day early, if she just lowered the membership stream to tier 1 there would be no issue. Instead she added a stream to every fucking tier like a dummy.

>>26857508
Can't you play beat saber even without a 3d avatar? The POV would just be in first person though

>>26857079
>>>/a/dbs
god fucking dammit that's wonderful

>>26857547
baste

>>26857307
Anon, the threads barely talked about Mori for the entirety of yesterday afternoon and then she suddenly became the hot topic again precisely when we moved into SEA hours. It's pretty obvious which timezone is genuinely bothered by this absolute nothingburger.

>>26857325
No. You water test by starting them at 10, MAYBE 15 and slowly adding new tiers as she "thinks" of new content to do. You don't jump straight into 5x the cost.

>>26857365
In which case she could have easily just put emotes in at the expensive tiers and nobody would have complained.

what determines who and when gets a membership button anyway

>>26857529
Okayu or Suisei will dominate Chess

>>26857547
>103.5

>>26857261
what about the same price but better rewards?
>tier 1
-emotes
-member stream - fans voted game.
>tier 2
- normal ASMR stream - reading/whispering
>tier 3
- roleplay ASMR stream - GFE/ara ara

>>26857334
Nigga they already changed it

>>26857380
You left out the reply that just says "Grow up."

>>26857561
Or see as half full because she have no idea what she doing

>>26857553
Absolutely. I think it'd sound great hearing her sing one of Fleetwood Mac's songs

>>26857562
She already looks like a monkey.
>>26857565
The real question is how fast she'll burn out trying to force creativity for her tier 3 members.

>>26857587
youtube-kun

>>26857555
"Cult classic" is still a term that exists so it's not nearly as bad as you think. You type in tentacult in google you get some shitty shovelware, not some definition tying to fans of a murderer.

>>26857587
total spacha earnings and sub count.

>>26857476
Woah, careful. You might start actually believing your narrative if you post it this often.

>>26857462
Really depends on how the tiers actually look.
I don't think having tiers is necessarily bad if they either all offer decent value or the higher ones are mostly for flexing and don't have much content locked behind them.
The problem with Mori's is that they're just overpriced as fuck.

>>26857079
¡AYUDAME NEGROHOMBRE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>26857475
based

>>26857590
Chess is a different piece than a puzzle-videogame. I'm not sure if Suisei's skills carry over so easily.
I feel like Okayu would bluff more than anything. I wish they could get that one Grandmaster who does streams to commentate.

>>26857085

Only antis put a myth down. Holomyth stands as one.

Post your ratings now vs two days ago.
>Two days ago
Mori > Ina > Gura > Kiara > Amelia
>Now
Ina > Gura > Kiara > Amelia > Mori

>>26857609
which one or anyone is fine ?

>>26857475
Lel, based canuck.

>>26857475
Dangerously based

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Gura > all
>Now
Gura > all

>>26857611
It will happen eventually, a bunch of JP holos rarely deliver the one membership stream. I expect her membership to change to be more like the rest of the holos eventually

>>26857587
The other girls could've also had it up by now but they clearly weren't thinking about it as much as Mori did so they don't have theirs set up to launch.

>Mori has tiers
>Kiara has tiers
Are we doomed? No more cheap and fun entertainment?

>>26857160
>in her retarded mind people should get more for paying more
Isn't this just how life works?

>>26857237
>pretend cried
Fuck off already

>>26857368
Ina's been my favourite for a while, but even then she keeps getting better. I think she knew what she wanted out of hololive more than the others

>>26857475
I'll believe when it happens. It won't.

>>26857261
My narrative is that they know mori fucked up with her prices so the other girls are going to do the same thing to save deadbraps from shame

>Works two jobs on top of her streaming career
>Works on a shitty laptop so she can't stream PC games
>Still waiting on game streaming permissions for PS4
>Released 4 free songs and plans on releasing a new one each month
>Clearly the most inexperienced of the group but is trying her best to fix her mistakes with every stream
>Immediately listened to feedback on her membership
>Is now getting flak for believing that it's fair that people who pay more should get more
Please don't be mean she's trying her best...

>>26857666
Satan, I see you.

You know this all Because of Canada simping Mori to the point Cover make the memberships only exist for the Simps in Canada

>>26857654
what are the chicken tiers?

>>26857282
I miss homestar runner like you wouldn't believe.

>>26857555
I'm more mad that ina originally had takodachis and that is a much better name than tentacult. If only because it should be fucking tentscultist if anything.

>>26857566
You can but since they're vtubers there is much more potential for fame if they manage to play it with their 3D avatars and I was really looking forward to see smol shark swing around forks in vr which is also supported by the youtube player by the way.

>>26857658
It is BUT WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS I'M PAYING $5 HERE IT'S ALL I HAAAAAAAAAAAAVE

>>26857255
>Giving something back to the people who donated hundreds of dollars
>Charging more money for it
???

>>26857666
>monthly songs, three monthly membership streams and a full week of streams every week

Would be the hardest working holo if she pulls it off.

>>26857630
Choco might also be a good contender; she has a level head on her shoulders. Although Okayu is a good pick. I don't think any of the ENs apart from Ina would stand a chance though.

>>26857695
Dunno but she plans all tiers.

>>26857673
Never knew he was a fan

>>26857561
People who pay more should get more and honestly higher tier subs filtering out all the people who spam shit in chat to get the experience of a small streamer who can actually read and interact with chat is a really good idea. Hopefully all the Holos follow the lead.

I took a break from this thread after the brapposting and the loserbait posting. Is everything okay now?

Kiara, Civia and Botan.

>>26857411
>literally stops people from SCing when she starts to get lazy reading
>greedy
????????????????????

>>26857666
Thanks Satan.

>>26857695
Not announced yet. Just know she'll have membership streams.

>>26857638
Landslide would probably be best

>>26857646
"Based."

>>26857695

To be announced over the weekend.

So far its only confirmed that emotes and **German** teaching streams will be paywalled.

>>26857695
Popcorn
Three piece
Bucket

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Kiara > Ame > Ina > Mori > Gura
>Now
Kiara > Ame > Ina > Mori > Gura
not going to be butthurt over Mori's pricing scheme until the rest of the ENs announce theirs. If she's set a bad precedent but is the only one, no problem. If the other holoENs follow along I'm going to be kinda bitter

>>26857714
I caught the tail end that one of them has german lesson? I assume thats the top end

>>26857516
I think the point of these is that the spanish isn't very good, or at least it only uses spanish that sounds close to english words or is commonly understood

>>26857635
gura then
gura now
https://files.catbox.moe/kpur8h.mp4

>>26857654
Yes, anon, they're all stopping streaming, every stream is paywalled now.
Pay up. $5 for talk stream, $20 for gaming stream, $50 for pretend girlfriend stream.

>>26857708
>full week
she already said she's going to take 2 days off every week

>>26857726
k, will try sorry if failed

>>26857723
That way she won't have people simping her

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Mori > Ina > Amelia > Gura > Kiara
>Now
Ina > Mori > Amelia = Kiara > Gura

>>26857711
Try to imagine Amelia playing chess

>>26857654

Chicken already said nearly everything will be free.

They have to have membership only content. So far she's only placed emotes and German lessons in them.

You're not likely to miss out on anything.

>Someone donates to chicken saying their dog needs surgery or whatever the fuck
>She doesn't question why he donated to her and not putting that money towards the dog

Big tit tomboy magical girl for HoloEN Gen 2

>>26857559
Yes, because it was so fucking mild. And she has a history of being a fake drama causing crybaby before Hololive

>>26857777
I just hope it's only more emote for higher tiers.

>>26857462
Assume the baseline is 5 dollars for all exclusive streams.
Mori - Locking music production streams is the most likely to be acceptable, with the biggest issue being I think she claimed she'd make those videos in her debut(implying freely). If she offers tips and a look into a professionals mindset, it'd be like paying for a class. Perfectly acceptable. Locking the wine stream, or game streams is too much though.
Kiara - If all of her member related stuff is purely German related like German teaching as she said, that's once again 100% acceptable. Literally paying for classes, that's fine.
Ina - Ina will be paywalling watch-a-longs. She unfortunately is too kind to lock her drawing streams or drawing tips, so we can only hope she doesn't make anything too expensive in tiers because honestly watch-a-longs shouldn't be too pricy.
Amelia - Unfortunately I think she has nothing she can lock besides ASMR, and that's already something you'd usually just make voice packs for. She's in a rough spot and needs to create some new ideas if she wanted anything higher tiered.
Gura - Even more so than Amelia. Basically anything Gura locks behind more than 5 dollars will cause massive chimpouts. She'd need something VERY worth the price.

Basically, if you can't offer a class, or some sort of service like that, going above 5 dollars will always be looked at shadily due to Hololive precedent.

>>26857258
Thanks, that was pretty well explained and informative.

>>26857785
>if they add an en tomboy subarucoin will crash
Don't do it!

>doomniggers and schizos are back
Great thread.

>>26857491
Unironically having her higher tiers be something dumb like a kitkat emote or whatever would be incredibly based.

>>26857783
I'd personally assume that people who spend money on superchats don't don't have financial problems.

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Mori > Ina > Kiara > Gura > Amelia
>Now
Mori > Ina > Gura > Kiara > Amelia

>>26857785
Big tit mom magical girl for HoloEN Gen 2

Fuck it, I'll pay $5 to be able to spam the toilet emote in my drunk wine aunts chat

>>26857654
>No more cheap and fun entertainment?
I'm confused. How did producing more content for people suddenly become taking away what you already have? It's one stream a month, if you have the $5 membership you get exactly what you had before. You're losing nothing. Only people who pay more are gaining something. How is this being spun to poorfags getting the food stolen out of their mouths?

>>26857079
https://files.catbox.moe/i8lcp0.webm
>キットカットを一個食べて、今はもう一個食べています

I'm starting to think that /hlgg/ is actually full of antis who are just trying to make me feel bad about liking these girls, rather than fellow-minded fans who just want to have fun watching them...

>>26857803
>Cover has told them they need $30 exclusive stream content
>Gura has no fucking clue what to do so she spent all yesterday drinking instead of streaming

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Mori = Ina = Kiara = Amelia = Gura
>Now
Mori ≤ Ina = Kiara = Amelia = Gura

>>26857785
>>26857820
Cover get on that now Being Meguca is suffering

All membership tier rewards should be the same! - Gawr Gura

>>26857815
He responded to her on twitter and said he's starting a kickstarter for his dog so...

>>26857803
I FUCKING HOPE if Ina does do separated tiers it's like
$5 for emotes and wallpapers
$10 for watchalong

>>26857635
Ina=Amelia>Gura>Mori>Kiara
Ina>Amelia>Gura>Mori>Kiara

>>26857850
Just watch it be the theme for Gen 2

>>26857635
>Two days ago
ina = amelia = kiara > gura > mori
>Now
ina = amelia = kiara > gura > mori

gura streams are not exactly my thing, but i enjoyed the surgeon sim collab, so bonus points for that.
mori just didnt really do anything besides songs, which is not my thing too...

>>26857270
how the fuck is this growth being sustained?

>>26857847
Can you imagine how fucking boring these threads would be if it was just constant "Great stream Amelia!" posting? Come on man.

>>26857635
Gura>ina>amelia

>>26857871
because it's HER

>>26857803
Amelia can play games with her members, also since she attracted a lot of twitchfags I don't think they'd mind only getting exclusive emotes for the higher tiers
I'm worried about gura honestly, not sure what she's gonna be offering compared to the others
t. twitchfag

>>26857803

Having a cute anime girl teach you an actual language is worth monies.

>>26857848
I really hope Gura is finally eating well. Poor girl has so many expectations to live up to.

>>26857866
What will be?

>>26857873
I'd rather have a boring thread than one that makes me sad

>>26857847
I was of the same mind until the membership thing. I don't think I'm the only one who never antiposted until now.

>>26857847
It's dead hours my man. Wait for the streams for the fun times.

>>26857577
There's a reason why even big businesses only provide certain "tiers" or packages that have significant jumps in prices. Have you ever seen a service provider give 10 kinds of subscription?

>>26857481
Nothing.
To understand why this timezone specifically is upset, think of it this way:
Charity has a power dynamic baked in. They beg, and you get to choose whether you give or not. You have the power to put bread ln their table and they have to appeal themselves to you to get it. You feel like you have all the power. Now let's say that instead they make money by charging you for a product. You can still choose, but now choosing no means you don't get something. You become the one that's deprived, the power balance is turned on its head.

Some folks here developed a narrative where Mori was dependent on the good will of her viewers to survive, a relationship that makes them feel in control even if they aren't actually giving her money. By now instead offering content for money, that imagined power relationship has been inverted. SEAmonkey culture is extremely uncomfortable with a woman being your equal in a financial power dynamic, so uncomfortable that they perceive this innocuous membership system as some kind of grand betrayal, and now retroactively view all of the time that she seemed dependent as an act meant to deceive them.

>>26857871
embrace the shark and all things are possible

>>26857270
who couldve predicted this bitcoin shit

>>26857871
Her previous fanbase slowly pouring into her new fanbase

can I just get membership for one month per year and retroactively get everything?

>>26857901
>SEAmonkey culture is extremely uncomfortable with a woman being your equal in a financial power dynamic, so uncomfortable that they perceive this innocuous membership system as some kind of grand betrayal
What?

>>26857887
Offering member playalongs is a problem.
>have 100 people in play-a-long tier
Good fucking luck giving them all a shot unless you do something like a smash tourny.

>>26857630
Tetris leans pretty heavily on visualisation, I would bet whatever mental superpower Suisei has that makes her so good at Tetris would carry over to chess for.

I think Chess.com did an "anime youtuber" (as in, youtubers who review anime) tournament already, so they'd probably be down to do a Vtuber tournament. I don't think Hololive JP would be too interested in chess though, it's a Western game. Japan would do shogi or go first.

>>26857892
Go back to plebbit then

>>26857892
If this shit actually has an emotional effect on you, you are taking it too seriously.

>>26857837
>my attempt at translating the kitkat quote
I'm not even sure if that sounds good enough anon but kinda funny seeing that posted by someone else

>>26857925
>Majong

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Ina = Gura = Amelia > Mori = Kiara
>Now
Ina = Gura > Amelia > Mori = Kiara

>>26857835
Unprecedented. Pekora or Korone haven't done this and people enjoy them the most.

>>26857170
I thought he already got banned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-LP6UT8TyQ

>>26857901
This desu
She's already offering a stream for $5, that's all the other holos do, the complaints about higher tiers is beyond retarded and basically can be summed to "well I don't get to watch it by paying minimums so it's bad".

>>26857847
>hlgg
>full of antis
There's like 10 of them spamming the thread.

>>26857635
Before:
Gura > Ame = Ina > Mori >>> Kiara
Now:
Gura > Ina > Ame >>> Kiara

Ina can easily just do a super tier with exclusive illustrations every month and people would pay for it

>>26857561
>>26857481
Maybe she is being used as a testing ground to see if people would pay money for top tier because 95% of the SC is 500 or more

>>26857901
>This timezone specifically
Anon it's been non-stop since it was announced. It only paused during Ina and Amelia's streams but all drama dies down during stream time.

>>26857901
>SEAmonkey culture is extremely uncomfortable with a woman being your equal in a financial power dynamic, so uncomfortable that they perceive this innocuous membership system as some kind of grand betrayal
Imagine being this close to having a good point and then blowing it on a weird racist tirade.

>Spics mega assmad they got walled off from content they're used to getting for pennies on the dollar
Feels good. They should really do a $50 tier and offer more streams on that to really filter out the shittier elements of their sub base.

>>26857835
you really think they are producing more content and not just paywalling what they would've done anyway?

>>26857901
????????????????

>>26857635
Two Days Ago
Ina > Amelia > Gura > Mori > Kiara

Now
Ina > Amelia = Gura > Mori = Kiara

>>26857960
Anon... did you wipe her from your memory?

Would you guys watch VOMS EN?

>>26857901
THIS and that retarded Swede is what people should be copy pasting "schizo" to. Not people disagreeing with you.

Based retard reminding people what real schizoposting looks like.

>>26857848
Drunk shark karaoke

>>26857901
This is some severe projection going on right here.

>>26857946
>and people enjoy them the most
Source? Explain to me why the two "best" streamers only have subs to their names.

>>26857744
The point is that if you know the original meme, then you can recognise from the image + spanish name, but if you don't know the original meme, you can't immediately become an expert. It's a great idea to filter newfags and make tourists do their archive reps

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Ame > Ina > Gura > Calli > Kiara
>Now
Ina > Ame > Gura > Kiara > Calli

Gura paywalls her utawakus. Would you join her membership?

>>26857958
>She's already offering a stream for $5
Should somebody tell him?

>>26857847
Don’t let it get to you. It’s really just the same 10 people who are like that out of 20,000 people viewing each of their streams. They just stand out in this garbage dump of a website because you can’t bury their posts like reddit

>>26857635
>Two days ago
Mori = Ina = Kiara = Amelia = Gura
>Now
Mori ≤ Ina = Kiara = Amelia = Gura

>>26857923
I used to sub to a twitch streamer that plays jackbox or some shit once in a blue moon, invite code gets posted on a member only discord and if we don't get in then tough luck I guess
I'd probably get the highest tier for Ame anyway whatever the rewards may be just to support her

this is Gura

sorry for lack of streams recently, I will do better

I love you all

>>26857999
Depends on their personality

>>26858021
Go eat something

>>26858011
Should somebody tell it to you or you just don't even bother to keep up with notices, just the shitposting?

>>26858021
Pls let me fuck you

>>26857873
Threads were overwhelming positive for the debuts and several days after and those were the best the threads have ever been. Antis actively reduce the quality of the threads

>>26858021
POST A FUCKING SCHEDULE YOU SHITFISH

>>26857871
>>26857884
>>26857915
especially with youtube algorithmkun spoiling it

>>26858010
I would unsub and kill myself.

>>26857847
Just visit these threads when streams happen. Dead Hours = Schizo Hours.

>>26858020
Don't you remember when Aqua battled a smash champ and it made everyone SEETHE because they didn't get to have their fair shot like everyone else?

Imagine that but constantly on a grand scale. Someone will be left out, someone will scream.

>>26857990

>>26858021
Ok

>>26858021
Don't worry about it, just don't fuck up the membership and you'll be my new favourite.

People not understanding that it no longer feels like supporting the vtuber when you're feeling obligated to get the bonus content because that's how the retarded human brain works. FOMO is real, and that's the predatory shit that exists when you separate things the way she did. I do not think she did it maliciously, I do think she didn't think it through. It stops being "support" and more like "paying for a service" when you keep adding piling shit on top.

>>26858011
Should someone tell you?

>>26857922
>>26857971
>>26857972
>>26857977
>>26858005
Please refrain from feeding the /pol/aks

amelia's warzone stream is back

>>26858021
no tier locked membership PLEASE
i love you

>>26857934
It does the job. Deepl and google translate can't seem to figure out what "piece" means.

>>26858010
Yes and I would retreat into my shell as anons blast her on the threads.

>>26857803
Ina /might/ be able to do like a request sketch stream for the highest tier. No idea how many people would spring for that though, 50+ seems like suicide considering her roommate also has comms to do.

>>26857555
holmies is such a good name for a fanbase, fuck schizos really.

>>26857462
Why be mad at tiers?
What is an acceptable method for accepting payment that keeps you happy?
Wouldn't you want to give more to your favorite idol depending on how much you like them?
Would a flat rate make your happy?
or are they not allow to make money cause you will view it as greedy?

Ame warzone video is up, did she edit "it" out?

Ame Warzone is back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-LP6UT8TyQ

>>26858038
Sure, but this paranoid screeching that everyone with a negative opinion on something is an "anti" is fucking tiresome.

>>26858021

If Mori's little ploy works and Cover realizes they've been selling for $5 what they could sell for $10 or $15, watch the other holos start to raise their membership tiers and JOPs get pissed at HoloEN.

I wish id never seen the amelia doxx. Fuck you guys for posting it yesterday.

Now not only has the magic of her character died but it also double hurts that she wont be mine.

>>26858021
Hey, please start taking care of yourself. Take as long as you need as a break, but get some fucking food in your belly. I don't want you pushing out braindead content because you're exhausted, stressed, and starving. I want you to have FUN. Go at your own pace, we'll be waiting.

>>26857347
>make wild claims
>refuse to substantiate them
>'gosh anon why won't you believe me'

>>26858057
This is a much better way to put it than I could manage, thanks anon.

>>26857755
no worries. Thank you.

>>26858060
Don't lie to me

>>26857462
I'd be happy. I want private time with my waifu and all the poorfag SEAmonkeys ruin the atmosphere

>>26858083
Her roommate is cute as well though

>>26858059
Look how it recoils, "I've been found out"

>>26858021
post chunny

>>26857646

>>26858021
make sure to get enough sleep.

>>26857960

>>26858106
>>26858077

>>26858076
yes

>>26858021
I love you too anon please don't overwork yourself and stay hydrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjYbySsGl4
The announcement is memberships right? I wonder why Calli decided to make a big deal out of it by dedicating an entire stream to it but Ame just makes it a side note. if the announcement actually is regarding memberships but what else could it be?

>>26858083
You'll get over the shock, alternatively you'll leave.

>>26858021
post 'a' on twitter for confirmation

>>26858083
I don't care that I know what ||her cute face or thicc thighs|| look like, her laugh keeps me going. At least nobody showed you Mori.

>>26858083
>visiting this shithole during anti hours
Kek

>>26858082
She's offering 3 streams not 1, 1 is what all the other holos offer. I doubt there would much of a noise at all if the other holos suddenly promised to make two more streams for those who support them more.

>>26858083
ogey

For JP side, memberships generally were really low cost stuff that allowed the holo to give you some special exclusive stuff once or twice a month.

The EN side is different because

1. Mori price is that much higher then JP side.
2. She is advertising her membership. Most holos you can't even tell what they do until you join. Its for fans who just want a bit more.
3. She's locking what many people want behind a paywall rather than mere extras,

Nothing against Mori but this is significantly different from JP Holo. I can see why some people want to object to it to prevent this from becoming the new normal.

>>26858128
Didn't Ame say she had another announcement during the Mosaic stream but she forgot?

>>26858128
>The announcement is memberships right?
she said that she still hasn't decided what to do with membership just today, so either she was lying or this announcement is for something else.

>>26857892
No, you wouldn't. There'd be nothing keeping you here and you'd leave for somewhere more honest.
>>26857972
Seconding. Could be a self-loathing SEAposter though.
>>26857934
Sounds a bit too polite for Ame, but otherwise okay.

>>26858082
Why don't we crowdfund leakerfund if that's the case? only need 25*32~$800 (or ~$400 with ARS cheat)/month.

>>26858135
>At least nobody showed you Mori
I saw her during her debut stream

>>26858128
Ame and Gura are tied for giving the least fucks about superchats. It's not surprise that Ame isn't milking membership from a dedicated stream. I say this as a deadbeat.

>>26858128
It's EU hours though right? Bit odd to not have a better timeslot to advertise memberships.

How was Amelia stream? I was busy cooking lunch.

>>26858169
Unlucky

Didn't Ame only say today that membership wouldn't be out until Sunday at the earliest? She seemed pretty nonplussed at the idea of membership in general.

>>26858183
she was ogey

>>26858083
First time? Give it two weeks.

>>26858135
>||
Go back tranny

>>26858135
What's wrong with Mori? Tomboy bro gf sounds fun.

>>26858175
>It's EU hours though right?
idk, it's noon PST.

>>26858082
>If Mori's little ploy works and Cover realizes they've been selling for $5 what they could sell for $10 or $15
This isn't the case. The other holos are only doing 1 members stream. Mori is doing 3. The other Holos would need to triple their member streams per month, it's not selling the same thing for a higher price. It's giving people more bang for the buck.

Hey dudes! Yagoo here. Thanks for enjoying HololiveEN.

>>26858158
>2. She is advertising her membership. Most holos you can't even tell what they do until you join. Its for fans who just want a bit more.
Doing a stream for announcing membership is completely normal
>3. She's locking what many people want behind a paywall rather than mere extras,
Noel puts stuff people want in the extra as well

>>26858169
>>26858135
And she not half bad

>>26858183
only watch for the intermissions where she tells childhood stories

>>26858176
she realized her weirdo fans wont pay up for supa or memberships

>>26858183
Burning Switch Zatsudan

>>26858183
The game was shit, but there was lots of high quality amelore in it, so i'd rate it 5 stars must watch.