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Yo /jp/.

So I got interested a bit in learning Japanese. I learned kana already, it wasn't that hard, but now when I try to write something in it, I almost always get scolded for not writing in kanji. Why is that?

And how important is kanji really? It seems so boring to learn it, do I really have to?

Also, how hard is it to master Japanese, should I go through it till the end, or should I just give up?

Pic unrelated, but funny.

>> No.2674500

>It seems so boring to learn it, do I really have to?
Only if you want to learn japanese.
>Also, how hard is it to master Japanese, should I go through it till the end, or should I just give up?

It's not impossible, do it if you want.

>> No.2674502

Most people learn kana in a few days and spend years learning kanji. You can't read Japanese without knowing at least basic kanji. If you're not willing to do that, then yeah, give up.

>> No.2674507

>>2674502

About how much basic kanji symbols are there?

>> No.2674508

You could learn just kana and grammar and read Japanese. The problem is that you'll have to always have a dictionary open when you want to read something.

And eventually you'll remember it just by the repetition of looking up said kanji anyways.

>> No.2674511
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2674511

>how important is kanji really?

>> No.2674517

>>2674507
2000-3000
>>2674508
Yeah, this is what I done. Worked better for me than Heisig.

>> No.2674532

>>2674508
>>2674517

Yea okay, then that's what I will do as well. What dictionary by the way? Any specific one, or will any do?

>> No.2674538

learn korean instead OP. even if it looks like stickmen an alphabet is still better than memorizing thousands of runes.

>> No.2674548

>>2674538
>learn korean

Now why would he go and do something like that?

>> No.2674549
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2674549

I say clearly.
The kanji is too difficult for a foreigner.
Because you thought about permanent residence to Japan, you had better give it up if there was not it.
Let's do learning except the kanji!
The Japanese is not only a kanji.
Many hurdles wait elsewhere.

>> No.2674553

>>2674538

Yea, I don't get why Japanese still use kanji when they have kana, which is practically an alphabet.

But well, a lot of good IP comes out of there, and I hate waiting and relying on others to translate it. Korea kinda doesn't make anything.

>> No.2674563

>>2674549
I'd say we end this thread prematurely.

>> No.2674569

>>2674553
>Korea kinda doesn't make anything.
not true. korea invented everything hundreds of years before it was popular anywhere else.

>> No.2674571

>>2674553
becausewithoutkanji,japaneselookslikethis.

>> No.2674572

Korea invented jRPGs.

>> No.2674574

>>2674571

Is using space in Japan prohibited?

>> No.2674585

>>2674574
Introducing spaces to the Japanese language is equal to telling us to remove spaces from English.

>> No.2674588

I don't get why Japanese still use Japanese when they have English.

>> No.2674589

>>2674585
so it would make it harder to read?

>> No.2674594

>>2674549
Kanji is actually pretty easy. It just takes time.

>> No.2674597

>>2674585

That doesn't make any sense. First you claim that kanji is needed because otherwise Japanese would be hard to read since you wouldn't be able to separate the words. Then you claim that separating words in Japanese is equal to merging them in English?

What?

>> No.2674604

>>2674549

This post makes me laugh uncontrollably. I don't know why.

>> No.2674606

Spacing isn't needed because of kanji

Kanji are needed because of all the homophones

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>>2674606
Common misconception.

>> No.2674622

>>2674597

You'll figure out what kanji do when you start learning them. Kana != alphabet, it's a sylabic script in a language designed for logographs to differentiate from thousands of homophones. They're only there to help the kanji, and nothing more. Using only kana in Japanese would be akin to using only insulator, cardboard, and nails to build a house, with no foundation or wooden structure as a base. - that said many homeless people and thirdworld countries have had great sucess with this method, and you'll notice that simple children's books and pokemon are written without any kanji (and with spaces) but it's ultimately constricting when you want to diversify your vocabulary past the lower elementary level.

>>2674594
What he said.

>> No.2674626

>>2674612

Can't you see the kanji in that?

>> No.2674629

>>2674622
if you can understand the homophones being spoken there's no reason why you suddenly would get confused seeing them written. that's just a bullshit excuse to be holding onto an archaic writing system.

>> No.2674635

"もえ" and "モエ" and "萌え", by the same sound, the Japanese feels these differences by sight.
A meaning is delicately different in "すき" "スキ" this which "好き".

You had better give up this nuance as the thing which you cannot understand to a foreigner.

>> No.2674638

>>2674635
You should give up English.

>> No.2674639

>>2674635
Oh come on now, it comes naturally with reading weeaboo shit, as opposed to learning shitload of random characters

>> No.2674642

>>2674629
They'd need a new writing system to replace the kana as well, then, since Japanese has a pitch accent system that has no way of being written other than using the appropriate kanji.

>> No.2674648

>>2674635
Language isn't something you're assigned to at birth, if a Japanese person can tell the difference, so can a non-Japanese person with enough time.

>> No.2674652

>>2674622

Ok so kanji is the real language, kana is only there for conjugation, suffixes and particles. And kanji isn't dropped because of the many homophones in Japanese.

Got it, thanks, I think I'll learn Japanese after all.

>> No.2674659

>>2674626
Not outside the first line. You wanna point out the rest?
Whole genres were written only in kana during the Edo period because they were deemed EASIER to read for people who didn't bother learning the kanji.

>> No.2674662

>>2674652
If you were considering learning it and you hadn't already learned all this VERY VERY BASIC STUFF through casual research, then I suspect you will fail at actually learning the language.

>> No.2674669

>>2674642

Hmm.. Something like.. THE ALPHABET?

>> No.2674672

Hey!
At first the Korean please leave.
Or please write in it after declaring that it is a Korean.
Many of Korean knowledge are wrong.
Do not tell wrong information to the person who is interested for Japan; want it.
It is impossible to get correct information in Korea.
The Japanese is here, too.
Why does a Korean explain a Japanese story?
Even if they become a university student, They cannot write a name and the name of a country of the parent in a kanji.

>> No.2674677

>>2674662

I actually didn't do any casual research. I only downloaded two pictures of katakana and hiragana and learned it. Then I saw some words in romaji and tried writing them in the newly learned kana, and I got scolded at.

>> No.2674681

>>2674642
Japanese isn't an intoned language anymore, and is no more tonally ambiguous than European languages, which require no intonation markers

>> No.2674682

>>2674677
>I got scolded at.
By who?

>> No.2674686

Just do what Korea did in the early 1900s

Abolish chinese characters -> denounce obscure chinese loanwords -> put in spaces

It could work just as well with kana

>> No.2674687

>>2674672
quick, someone post that "america is pig" copypasta

>> No.2674698

>>2674681
It still has a two-pitch system. Or more accurately it has "pitch goes up" and "pitch goes down". It's certainly true that European languages can be just as tonally ambiguous, however said European languages have the benefit of an alphabet that can be used to construct unusual phonemes. Japanese is stuck with a pair of almost-identical syllabaries.

>> No.2674700

>>2674669
> ALPHABET

I just fucking realized that alphabet sounds like the first two letters from Greek alphabet, alpha and beta!

MIND = BLOWN

>> No.2674701

>>2674686
But kanji are a good repellent for keeping Narutards away from learning the language

If you can't memorize a couple of thousand kanji you don't deserve to learn GLORIOUS NIHONGO

>> No.2674702

>>2674682

Youtube/4chan mostly. I write something like:
おい、ぼくはアノニムスです。よろしく。ぼくはアニメとゲームがすきだ。


And some random people tell me how it's horrible and that I should use kanji.

>> No.2674706

>>2674702
And so you should, it makes you sound like a child

>> No.2674707

>>2674700
it's crazy because the alphabet we use is actually stolen from the etruscans

>> No.2674709

>>2674682
>By whom?

Fixed.

>> No.2674710

>>2674700
Wow, and I thought I was the biggest slowpoke on this board.

>> No.2674714

>>2674710
I realised a couple of years ago that "Miles Prower", Tails' real name from the Sonic the Hedgehog games, is a pun on "miles per hour".

>> No.2674716

>>2674698
Those constructions aren't necessarily used in European languages, and we seem to do fine. If you want, compare Hindi or Hebrew then. And I fail to see how kanji regulates intonation other than what people would glean from existing conventional wisdom or what little remains from the pronunciation used when they were borrowed, most of which is already distinguishable in kana anyway.

>> No.2674720

I am a Japanese.
A lot of talents of the foreigner go for a Japanese TV program.
In comparison with the Japanese learning period, American and African and European speak Japanese are splendid.
Even if a Chinese and the Korean Japanese pass till when, progress does not make it why is it; feel.
I am mysterious.
It is said that Japanese is difficult as for the foreigner who is American and African and European .
I am a Japanese, but I think that the Japanese is difficult.
The kanji is particularly difficult.
Strangely, the Korean says that Japanese is simple.

>> No.2674725

I missed the good old Japanese vs Korean trolls.

>> No.2674726

>>2674672
日本の人種差別

>> No.2674728

>>2674720
Have you guys ever thought about learning English?
Seriously, everyone seems to speak it except Japan. That's why there's never any meaningful exchange between normal Japanese people and foreigners.

>> No.2674729

>>2674720
Mysterious!

>> No.2674730
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2674730

>I don't get why Japanese still use kanji when they have kana, which is practically an alphabet

>> No.2674734

>>2674728
I think the westernisation of Japan has gone far enough.

>> No.2674736

>>2674716
The kanji itself don't dictate the intonation, but anyone with a working, fluent knowledge of Japanese can easily read aloud two different kanji that have the same reading in terms of kana but different intonation, and have another fluent listener tell them apart correctly.

>> No.2674738

>>2674726
人種差別じゃないよw。
区別だよw。
正しい情報と間違った情報を、分ける作業が必要だと主張してるんだよ。
韓国人が、日本人より正しい日本語の知識を持ってるはずないだろ。
Korean go /k/ or /an/ !

>> No.2674740

>I am a Japanese, but I think that the Japanese is difficult.
>The kanji is particularly difficult.

Ah, that makes me feel slightly less stupid.

>> No.2674741

Can koreans and japanese argue on english please. I hadn't had a good laugh in months.

>> No.2674743

>>2674738
<丶`Д´> AIGOH!

>> No.2674746

>>2674740
The Japanese is difficult.
This is a fact.
There is no help for it even if I tell a lie.

I am not a Korean.

>> No.2674747

>>2674702

Between the simplistic grammar, lack of any kanji whatsoever, and use of Boku as a personal pronoun it reads like you're about five years old.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell everybody I see who's excited about having learned kana and want to continue learning japanese. Honestly, while it's possible to teach yourself Japanese given years of dedication, there just isn't a substitute for taking a proper class in it. It helps you jam grammar, vocabulary, and kanji into you much faster and more accurately than you would otherwise, helps break you of your bad habits, and after a year or two of classes you'll probably be getting to the point where teaching yourself the rest of the way becomes much easier.

Yes, you do need kanji. At least if you want to read anything ever or write anything without having whoever reads it give you a look. Yes, it sucks, but it gets better after a while. There are 3000 or so kanji total, but many of those are obscure. A lot of dictionaries only cover 2000 or so, or even only 1000. And even out of that there's only a portion that will constantly see use all the time.

Kana's the first step, good job for that! But to put things in perspective, in my first year Japanese class they basically required us to have hiragana pretty well down by the second day, and katakana by the third, with a test on them the second week. Four semesters later, and I'm still a long, long, long way from fluency.

>> No.2674748

일본 : 소아 성의 나라

>> No.2674750

lol corea

>> No.2674751

>>2674736
If that's the case, why would it matter if it were written in kanji or kana? Even so, I don't think there is enough ambiguity outside a handful of monosyllabic words. There certainly isn't compared to Korean, which has more homonyms despite having more phonemes, and it's worked fine historically without mixed script or spacing.

>> No.2674754

>>2674747
>katakana by the third

Fuck that shit, katakana is harder than goddamn kanji. THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME

>> No.2674759

>>2674751
>why would it matter if it were written in kanji or kana?

Because kana has no meaning attached, thus no way outside context to determine what the correct intonation is.

>> No.2674763

i'm chinese and i think i'd do ok without the kanji (lol, reverse difficulty)

every time i read kanji i read it out in my head with the chinese prnounciation, i don't know what the japs keep it around cause it makes no sense in their language
just put in some spaces or something

>> No.2674768

>>2674747

I am German and I practically have almost no possibility of visiting a Japanese class.

Only way for me to learn it is via the internet and books/dictionaries.

I really want to learn it though, since I want to experience the Japanese products as soon as they come out, and with first person experience, not translated experience, if you know what I mean. So I will do my best to learn it like this. Thanks for the suggestions though.

>> No.2674773

>>2674747
If you learn Japanese seriously, the kanji is necessary by all means.
However, the kanji is very difficult.
Because a Japanese says that a kanji is difficult, it is a fact.
You had better not hear the Korean claim.
They are races of the totally different star.

>> No.2674776

>>2674747
Only kids and man-children need their hands held through learning a language. Everything you can learn in a classroom you can learn in your home, quicker.

>> No.2674779

>>2674759
But why is that a problem? The same could be said of any synthetic language, which is pretty much everything except Chinese. If that were really such an issue writing systems like Hebrew and Korean wouldn't exist. Sure, the monosyllabic isolation you can take from importing Chinese is convenient at times, but certainly not a necessity for any language with more than a syllable a word.

>> No.2674781

>>2674747
>class
>kanji
>much faster

100-200 kanji per year
Good one, bro.
Class is the absolute slowest method to learn the language. It holds back anyone who doesn't want to slack and is planning to be able to read something meaningful in a year or two.

>> No.2674784

>>2674773
>They are races of the totally different star.

The Korean is of the human star. Japanese is barbarous offshoot.

>> No.2674787

>>2674747

Classes are shit.

>> No.2674808

>>2674784
cant tell if troll

>> No.2674814

wtf OPs pic

>> No.2674821

>>2674729
>>2674728

Don't be hard on him. I think that it's very hard for Japanese people to learn English. First off, they speak in syllables. Second off, they don't have half of the grammatical rules like English does.

While Japanese is a language which is more pro-drop and in context, English relies on grammar. So it's very hard for them to learn English. I personally can understand him and I think his English is pretty good, given the conditions.

>> No.2674824

>>2674781
Pretty much this.

A *good* class would no doubt be the most efficient way to learn the language. The problem is that pretty much every class ever has a subgroup of people who have read a couple manga books or other people who simply aren't motivated AT ALL to learn the language.

The only exception (at least in my country) are university departments of East Asian languages and cultures, but 1) good luck getting into one, and 2) they also spend fuckloads of time learning stuff you don't need to understand VNs (and come one, what other purpose would we need the language for?)

>> No.2674827

However, the Korean is going to give a Japanese explanation?
Does the Korean think that Japanese has a lot than a Japanese?
I am impossible of understanding.

>> No.2674830

>>2674824
If you want to learn a language, the best way is to go to the country the language is spoken in and take a couple of months of intensive lessons. Eight hours a day of learning, plus the other sixteen submerged in the language, does far more than a couple of hours a week.

>> No.2674832

>>2674824
>A *good* class would no doubt be the most efficient way to learn the language.
Not really, classes are superfluous for anyone who can motivate themselves, see >>2674776

>> No.2674834

>>2674827

Why do you hate Koreans so much?

>> No.2674838

>>2674830
You don't need to be in the country to immerse yourself in the language.

>> No.2674840

Dear Nippon

Stop your stupid feud with Korea, no one cares about Korea. When you go on and on about gooks, that's like me coming to Japan and telling you about spics. You wouldn't know what I'm talking about, and probably wouldn't care.

>> No.2674845

>>2674824
Well, class that I was in was pretty intense. 4 hours per week, but we didn't waste a single minute. There were only 6-7 people, so it helped too. Too bad I couldn't handle it and uni at the same time, so had to quit after a half a year.

>> No.2674851

>>2674834
------------------
Anonymous 05/29/09(Fri)08:06 No.2674834
>>2674827

Why do you hate Koreans so much?
-----------------
This is an ultimate question.
I am too particular.
By the way, is there the country which does not dislike a Korean?

>> No.2674852

>>2674838
Yes you do. Immersion means total immersion. Everything around you is in the target language, even (and perhaps especially) background chatter.

>> No.2674854

>>2674851
I was to saying Korea does not dislike a Korean, but as monkeys they are splitted into different halves. Both are subhuman.

>> No.2674855

>>2674851
No one really cares enough about Korea to truly hate it

>> No.2674858

>>2674851

I personally have never had problems with Korea. I know that a lot of good Starcraft gamers, whose games I like to watch, come from there. Nothing else. Are they doing a lot of crimes in Japan or what? I don't get it.

>> No.2674861

>>2674852
Most of /jp/ rarely leave their houses, they can easily immerse themselves by constantly listening to Japanese podcasts and such, and Japanese stuff on their mp3 on the off chance they do leave their basements

>> No.2674864

>>2674854

Your hate to Koreans reminds me of my hate to Blacks. Is it something like that?

>> No.2674870

>>2674851
I don't have a reason to hate them because I live in Europe. No Koreans around here. You may be in different circumstances, but they aren't really hated in Europe and US.

>> No.2674877

>>2674834
Please do not misunderstand it.
The Japanese is said to be difficult by a Japanese.
The Korean says that the Japanese is simple.

I laugh at it.
Many people on the earth know that a Japanese kanji is difficult.

>> No.2674881

>>2674877
European here

Kanji is easy

>> No.2674882

>>2674877
troll confirmed

>> No.2674883

>>2674877
Japanese is simplest of all asian languages. Only thing making it difficult is kanji, stolen from China and Korea.

Korean is opposite. Hard language, easy writing system, invent by Koreans.

>> No.2674887

>>2674877

The person who said that wasn't Korean I think, so maybe you are the one who misunderstood?

>> No.2674889

>>2674877
Do not tell a lie. Pig's foot.

>> No.2674890

japanese and corean grammar are similar

>> No.2674892

>>2674883

Korean confirmed! 100%

>> No.2674895

>>2674889

Korean!

>> No.2674900
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2674900

>>2674883

>> No.2674909

>>2674870
I say the truth.
What is ignored than what is avoided is crueler.
In your country, is there the person who is interested in Korea? Is there the person knowing a country called Korea?

Because they do that you are the cruelest, they act violently here.

I will be interested in Korea a little.

>> No.2674913

Let's learn about Korean letter hangul. >>2674900
is the words written by the person who created hangul. It says "Korean people are stupid, they can not read kanji, so I decide to make new letter for them". you can see the word 愚民. It means "stupid people". Korean never learn this fact in their schools. because it is a SHAME for them.

Many Korean words are made by combinations of kanji like Japanese and Chinese. These 3 languages have many homonyms. Japanese and Chinese can know the meaning of homonyms by reading (or hearing about) kanji. but 99% of Korean can not read kanji or don't know about kanji. Hangul is just like pronunciation signs, it is impossible to change spelling to tell one homonym word from others. So if Korean don't have dictionary, they have no clue to know the meaning of homonyms. It is inevitable Korean become stupider than Japanese and Chinese.

>> No.2674929

>>2674913
Korean is independent culture. Japanese is Chinese loan culture.

>> No.2674931

These are stupid homonyms in Korean
These are not homonyms in Japanese.

童貞と同情。史記と詐欺。無力と武力。
捕鯨と包茎。発光と発狂。朝鮮と造船。
武士と無事。電車と戦車。連覇と連敗。
祈願と起源。定額と精液。放火と防火。

Virgin & Sympathy, History book & Cheat, Powerless & Force,
Whaling & Phimosis, Luminescence & Going mad, Korea & Shipbuilding,
Warrior & Safety, Train & Tank, Straight victories & Straight losing,
Pray & Origin, Fixed amount & Semen, Setting fire & Fire prevention.

>> No.2674934

>>2674870
However, you may dislike Korea as a result that you knew most about Korea.

I ignore it badly, and I avoid liking it, and but there is not there being it.
It is the worst of the first.

>> No.2674942

>>2674929
korea is way more sinicized than japan is, and that's saying something consider how much japan takes from china

japan still uses their own names, shinto is at least still recognized, and their loanwords are historically much less

korea uses chinese-style names, korean shamanism is all but lost, and prior to 1930, 70% of korean words were borrowings

You guys should just both bow down to Chinese supremacy.

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2674945

>>2674929
lol no. see
>>2674931
>History book & Cheat
lolololol.

>> No.2674946 [DELETED] 

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Truly anonymous - you are not traceable there unlike here on Retardchan.

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>>2674942
NO. you stupid chink. you stupid chink don't learn that 70% of modren chinese words are made by Japanese. Evne your name of country 中華人民共和国 is full of Japanese.

>> No.2674959

>>2674953
Ok, troll time is over

>> No.2674965

A Japanese spread the letter which a Korean used 100 years ago.
They say only a Japanese bad-mouth without thanking for Japan.

>> No.2674968

I can't even tell if you guys are trolling or genuine nationalists

>> No.2674973

>>2674968
No Japanese people browse /jp/

>> No.2674974

I KOREA
JAPANOTO PERSON HERE BEING.

JAPANOTO PERSON DISGUST VERY TALK KOREA ABOUT.

WORD HIS HEARD BE NOT.
LIE HIS WORD!
LIE HIS WORD!!!!!!!!

KANJI? HAHA KANJI EASY VERY BE. KOREA UNIK REAL COUNTRY.

>> No.2674975

>>2674959
It is not troll. when chinks and gooks did nothing against Western countries. Only Japanese learn about them and make many western words kanji. chinks and gooks do not learn this fact. because it is shameful for them.

>> No.2674983

I'm Japanese.
what do you have quastion?

>> No.2674985

>>2674983
write in Japanese. お前の書き込みを日本語で書いてみろ

>> No.2674995

>>2674983

Hello, how much kanji symbols do I have to learn so I can understand game text?

And is it very difficult?

>> No.2674997

>>2674995
A Japanese person isn't going to be able to tell you that. People who actually remember learning the language can.

>> No.2675000

機械翻訳を通して、英語を書き込むが面倒になったよ。
なぜ、韓国人は、日本語の説明をしようとするんだ?
彼らは、日本人より日本語に詳しいと思い込んでるのかな。
日本語が、上手く使えていると思っているのかな。
理解できないな。

>> No.2675003

>>2674995

Pokemon games don't have Kanji.

>> No.2675006

>>2674985
日本は変態にとって素晴らしい国です。一度はおいで

>> No.2675008

Is there not the pig's foot who can speak English like a Korean. Why not? Barbarians.

>> No.2675014

韓国の紹介や、韓国語の説明をしたければ、/k/か/an/にスレを建てて、勝手
にやれば良いのに。
わざわざ、日本人の前に出てきて、叩かれたいのかな。
真性のマゾ民族だなw。

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2675018

>>2675006
死ねよ、朝鮮人。アジアの強姦王

>> No.2675025

난이 스레드에서 일본어 젠장. 엿먹어 일본어, 당신은 쓰레기입니다.

>> No.2675028

>>2674995
game text is easy, because it is for child.
you learn at least 2000 kanji, you will understand it

>> No.2675031

Why no be speak English Japan?

You not know English? I be no surprise. Japanese people too stupid to know English. That why they must type in they stupid outdated writing system. Kanji? Ha ha ha.


바보 같은 일본 사람.

>> No.2675037
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2675037

>>2675025
쪽발이 무시합니다.

>> No.2675050

>>2675031
lol stupid gook. see
>>2674900
>>2674913
your stupid hangul is just a pronunciation sign. it is so inferior.

>> No.2675056

kanji was honto ni cash.

>> No.2675057

ハングルマジキメェな。お前らドンだけキモいんだよ
hangeul is too creepy. korean is too bad to look at.

>> No.2675058

獨島は朝鮮の領土だ!!!

>> No.2675059

Korea please be shut up.

You dirty dog.

>> No.2675064
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2675064

Korean never learn real history. They are brainwashed that Korea has been superior.

>> No.2675068
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2675068

Korea islets, location East Sea.

>> No.2675075
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2675075

True face of Japan = Beheading child.

>> No.2675082
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2675082

Korean whores in Tokyo. Being whore is the best job for Korean women. click this pic, even these are tiny faces, but you can find they have plastic surgery.

>> No.2675083

>>2674974

BEING THIS ME AGAIN.

JAPANOTO PERSONS SILENCE NOW PLEASE BE.

KOREA IS BEST WORLD. JAPANE BOMB GETTING BY AMERIKA PIG. TALK HOW CAN BE HERE?

WE BEST NATION, KOREA BEST.

JAPANOTO LIE IS!
LIE!!
I DISGUST AM FOR JAPANOTO LIE.

I AT READING THANKS (KOREA POLITE).

>> No.2675087

>>2675082
Pig's foot fabrication.

>> No.2675088

>>2675083
Trying too hard, bro. You're supposed to be impersonating a Korean, not Yoda.

>> No.2675090

韓国人は遺伝子レベルで頭おかしいから気にすんな
korean's geen is injuried.so they are broken.

Korea's fixed world cup 2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIa_tDNF5Hk

>> No.2675091

>>2675075
lol. stupid korean. korean Japanese fought against Chinese and westerners and they became war criminal after the war. but korean never learn this fact in their schools.

>> No.2675099

Japan is the nation of pedophilia.

>> No.2675100
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2675100

lol. korean German whore mangaka.

>> No.2675101

>>2675088

THANKS AMERIKA BRO. (KOREA POLITE)

AMERIKA MY BROTHER IS TOO. KNOWING WHY?

BECAUSE AMERIKA SEES THAT KOREA BEST AND JAPANOTO DISGUST LIE IS.

I AT READING THANK (POLITE-JAPANOTO KNOW NOT)

>> No.2675108

Haven't had a laugh like this in a long time.

I whole heartily thank everyone who posted ITT.

>> No.2675112
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2675112

Japanese idol = slut = Japanese children aspire to be like idols = slut nation

>> No.2675115

(You're both short, bucktoothed slanteyes whose culture and history are completely irrelevant)

Just so you know.

>> No.2675120

>>2675115
Korean = wide eyes, square face, nice teeth

Japan = bad teeth, small eyes, balloon face, very ugly

>> No.2675133

http://www..
A
nonTa
lk.co
m/

Truly anonymous - you are not traceable there unlike here on Retardchan.

b8c148edeade1a764db9d043882a472a

>> No.2675137

>>2675120

I am from Europe and I gotta say that I like both Korean and Japanese girls. Both are very beautiful.

>> No.2675139
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2675139

>>2675120
Why Korean love to tell lies? Everybody in 4chan knows Koreans are ugly.

>> No.2675146
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2675146

Nobody is beautiful in Korea.

>> No.2675151

>>2675139
http://genetic.110mb.com/

Even Japanese knows that Japanese is hideous.

>> No.2675152
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2675152

Korean president and ugly korean school girls.

>> No.2675154
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2675154

>>2675146

>> No.2675166
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2675166

>>2675154
lol. every single korean idols has plastic surgery.
Even korean know it very well. They love to make "before after" pictures of korean star.

>> No.2675169

>>2675166
Japan does this too.

>> No.2675181
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2675181

Japanese citizen showing proboscis-like penis in public. Purikura booths in Japan are public, everyone could see him showing his proboscis-like penis.
What disgust!

>> No.2675188

>>2675169
lol no. Japan has tons of teenage idols. Korea does not have them. because Korean have plastic surgery after they graduate high schools.

>> No.2675192

Is it true that Asians have small penises?

>> No.2675193

I don't want to learn Japanese because I am afraid that when I understand what's going said it won't sound as good.

>> No.2675196
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2675196

>>2675181
lol korean. Korea has tons of these people.

>> No.2675199
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2675199

>>2675196

Japanese citizens are gay.
Prove me wrong.

>> No.2675200
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2675200

Silly asians fighting amongst yourselves for second place.

We all know who has the greatest culture in the world.

>> No.2675204
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2675204

>>2675192
Korean has the smallest penis in the world.

>> No.2675211
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2675211

>>2675199
lol korean. Everybody in Korea become gay in their army.

>> No.2675213

>>2675200

That's one statement we all can agree upon.

Good show, sir.

>> No.2675217

>>2675200
>Europe
>greatest culture in the world
centuries ago, perhaps

>> No.2675229

>>2675217
Oh, did something change? Who replaced us?

>> No.2675234

>>2675217

Haha, butthurt American.

Sorry but the Brandenburger Tor, Eiffel Tower and Big Ben still have a lot more culture than McDonalds, Burger King and Subway buildings.

>> No.2675235

>>2675229
glorious Japan. you DO not make cultures at all, now.

>> No.2675238

>>2675200
Slavs only have good manners when you have secret police beating them up to keep them in line, now without Communism they are all a bunch of criminals.

>> No.2675244

>>2675238

Rofl. Never had more problems with slavs than with any other nation. Where are you reading those things you silly American.

>> No.2675257

>>2675238
Western European types would rather not be grouped together with slavs. Polish people aren't too popular in the UK right now.

But hey, at least we don't have any east slavic people in our union yet.

>> No.2675262

Why Japanese draw Hentai? Because they all too ugly in life.

>> No.2675270

>>2674496
More pictures of Japanese bullying, please.

>> No.2675274

>>2675257

That will never happen. All the ex-SSSR countries are too weak economically to join the EU. Only one strong enough, Russia, doesn't want to be in the EU anyway.

Only slavs you will be seeing in the EU will be the south slavs, from Balkan, ex-Yugoslavia.

>> No.2675281
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2675281

>>2675262
lol. stupid korean logic. it is easy to understand Korean are ugly.All you have to do is see mirrors or other koreans faces. this is korean before they can have plastic surgery. why korean can not find simple fact.

>> No.2675292
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2675292

>>2675270
lol. OP is not Japanese. Are you Korean? this is Korean bully.

>> No.2675294

>>2675281

At least we not fuck drawed people. We are not monsters like Japan, we are human we have sex with human.

>> No.2675300
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2675300

>>2675270
Bully is Korean original culture. This is typical birthday of Korean. you can see dirty Korean letter in this picture.

>> No.2675302
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2675302

>>2675292
This one here is Japanese though. I rarely fap to 3D, but this was an exception.

>> No.2675307

>>2675294
lol you are just notorious rapist. see
>>2675018

>> No.2675310

>>2675292
>>2675302
Wow, do want. sauce it

>> No.2675311

>>2675262

why do you read it then

>> No.2675316

>>2675310
I'd like to know where it came from myself.

>> No.2675318
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2675318

Bully is Korean culture.

>> No.2675321

>>2675311
Haha, I not read Hentai, it is cartoon for children. I am not pathetic to have sex with cartoon for children. I have sex with real people I not monster like Japanese.

>> No.2675330
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2675330

Typical Korean birthday.

>> No.2675331

>>2675321
>I have sex with real people
Is that like a new type of visual novel?

>> No.2675336

>>2675321
lol. Koreans are notorious rapist monsters in asia. Don't you have brain at all? see
>>2675018

>> No.2675341
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2675341

why korean are such a whore?

>> No.2675344

I planned to visit Japan, but after seeing some horrible pictures in this thread.. Well, I am genuinely scared now. And I mean, scared for my life.

>> No.2675345

>>2675330
Crying little girls are one of my favourite things in the 3D world. You're not really helping your case here, Japanese guy.

>> No.2675347

This thread is amusing.

>> No.2675350

You call Korean monster?

Well, look what Japanese do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junko_Furuta

Shame on you Japanese. Disgusting, how can you do that.

>> No.2675352
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2675352

>>2675345
so you want this?

>> No.2675356

>>2675352
That's not a girl.

>> No.2675358

>>2675350
Fuck man, why did I read that? You have awoken the moralfag in me now.

>> No.2675359

>>2675321
So you're a neet too! However I don't see the real difference between our fap to Hentai, and your fap to porn..

You're 3D PIG DISGUISTING!

>> No.2675361
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2675361

>>2675350
lol. every countries has some cruel criminals. but bully in birthday is crazy culture of Korean. Korean should understand your culture is barbaric.

>> No.2675363

>>2675350

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=104786470334

>> No.2675377
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2675377

Korean eat shit everyday.

>> No.2675379

>>2675358

Hello, you should read a manga made about the case. It shows what Japanese done to poor innocent girl. Please read and you will see how really Japanese are. Maybe I can find on internet and give link to see true nature of Japanese.

>> No.2675382
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>> No.2675386

>>2675379
I'd probably fap to it. I don't mind a little guro from time to time.

>> No.2675388
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2675388

>>2675379

>> No.2675390
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2675390

>>2675382

>> No.2675393

>>2675302
whats that writing on her say

>> No.2675398
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2675398

>>2675386
>I don't mind a little guro from time to time.
so you want this? He kills himself just because he hates Japan. Poor korean who is the victim of brainwash by Korean government.

>> No.2675404

>>2675379

http://forums.avistaz.com/index.php?showtopic=9154

>> No.2675408

>>2675390
lol. you don't know that red is the color of Korean national football team. Japan is blue. Korean call themselves "reds"

>> No.2675413

>>2675408
Yeah, but that would take too much effort to Photoshop.

>> No.2675418

パソコン使ってばかりいるので
日本人も最近はろくに漢字なんてかけないぞ(読む事は出来る)

>> No.2675419

It's nice to know that It isn't just my fellow countrymen that are ignorant pigs.

>> No.2675422
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2675422

>>2675413
so you are korean american or korean something?

>> No.2675429

>>2675422

He not monster like Japanese, he know Korea is good. Sorry Japanese, but everyone knows you are ill.

>> No.2675446
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2675446

Korea is cancer killing the world. If you are american, you should understand it by L.A riot and him. Like korean german mangaka, Korean love to leave their homeland, and they become the cancer of other countries. it is not only problem of Japanese, but problem of the world.

>> No.2675457

>>2675446

Shut up Japan dog.

>> No.2675464
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2675464

>>2675457
Shut the fuck up, you puppy race Korean who are easy to be eaten by human.

>> No.2675475

【 旧日本陸軍の朝鮮兵に対する注意書き】    
一、いつ、いかなる時でも唐辛子粉を食事に際し好きなだけ使わすこと。
一、絶対に頭、体を叩いてはいけない。怨みを持って復讐する気質があり、
脱走の原因となる。
一、清潔な食事運搬用バケツと雑巾バケツの区別をよく教えること。
一、危険な状況下では銃を投げ捨てて哀号!と泣き出す習癖があるから、日
本兵二名で一名の朝鮮兵を入れて行動せよ。

【How to handle the Korean soldiers in the former Army of Japan】
-Let soldiers use red pepper as much as they like in diet in all weather
-Never hammer on their head and body. They have a resentful temperament to revenge. It can cause their breakout.
-Teach them out to distinguish precisely between buckets for carrying food and for wiping
-have a couple of Japanese conduct with them since they have the habit to throw their shoters out and cry out "Aeee Gaaaau" under the dangerous conditions

>> No.2675476

>>2675464

Fuck you Japan, at least Korea not be rape by America. Hiroshima & Nagasaki, how you like?

Korea not weak shit like Japan pigs.

>> No.2675478

【米軍による韓国兵の扱いマニュアル 】
1.韓国人には強気で押せ。抵抗する場合は大声で命令しろ。     
2.命令を聞かない場合は身体で解らせろ。
3.同じことをくり返す場合、犬のように何回でも同じ様に叱れ。こちらが
上と言うことを身体で解らせろ。
4.理由は聞くな。どうせ大したことは言っていない。
5.身体で解らせた場合、根に持つ場合があるので、後で身辺には気をつけ
て行動しろ。但し、徹底的に解らせる迄、手を抜いてはいけない。
6.相手を3才児と思い、信用したり頼りにはするな。重要な仕事は任せる
な。

The handling manual of the Korea soldier by the United States Armed Forces

1. Strongly order a Korean. When a Korean resists it, order aloud.      
2. When a Korean does not hear an order, let them understand it with their body .
3. When a Korean repeats the same thing, scold him like a dog in the same way how many times. Let them understand that you are superior to them.
4. Do not hear the Korean objection/reason. They don't say thing to hear anyway.
5. When you let a Korean understand with their body, sometime they bear a grudge against you. Therefore, be careful later. But you must not do a slipshod job till you let them understand it thoroughly.
6. Think a Korean to be 3 years old child, and do not trust or rely on them. Do not let them do the important work.

>> No.2675487
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2675487

>>2675476
lol. Korean really DO NOT learn real history. Many Korean Japanese died because of atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Why you Korean are so stupid?

>> No.2675490
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2675490

>>2675478
>>2675475

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

>> No.2675494
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2675494

>>2675476
>at least Korea not be rape by America.
but many korean are killed by America.

>> No.2675500
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2675500

>>2675476
>at least Korea not be rape by America.
because Korean love to kill each other.

>> No.2675502
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2675502

America rape Japan.

Pathetic dogs.

>> No.2675506
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2675506

>>2675502
lol. Korean killed each other. You korean are super stupid race. Do you know that korean want Japanese to kill each other like korean. but Japanese is intelligent than korean. they never kill each other.

>> No.2675514
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2675514

>>2675506

That's why you kill yourself. Kamikaze? Seppuku?

Idiot race.

America should destroy all dirty Japan with more bombs.

>> No.2675521
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2675521

>>2675514
lol. do you forget korean who killed himself because he hated Japan. Do you think he is cool?

>> No.2675529

>>2675521

One Korean or 50% of Japan.

You kill yourself, you get raped, you lose every war. You shit.

>> No.2675530

>>2675514
Kamikaze killed enemy. it is reasonable than korean who killed korean. You korean are really stupid like hamster which kill each other if there is no feed.

>> No.2675536
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2675536

>>2675529
I really don't understand what you want to say.
Are you crazy?
by the way, this is another korean who killed himself because he hated Japan.

>> No.2675538

>>2675530

Seppuku kill enemy? Or when America start win, many families killed themself. Go crawl into hole and kill your family like WW2.

That is Japan, crawl in holes and kill own family.

>> No.2675543

>>2675538
lol stupid korean. Seppuku is done in Edo period. you should learn real history. you korean always write your fantasy. it means nothing.

>> No.2675547
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2675547

>>2675538
now, Seppuku is done by Korean. Because Korean love to behave like Japanese.

>> No.2675555

【 旧ソ連共産党による北朝鮮の扱い方 】
1、頭痛の種になるだけだから関わるな    
2、手段を選ばぬキチガイ揃いだから関わるな
3、関わるとこっちが痛い目に遭うから関わるな 
4、関わってきたらウォッカを飲んで忘れること

>> No.2675557

>>2675547

That proud men.

Not like Japanese, get raped from America. You like big America dick? Japan? Take it. After get raped you now suck America cock and change your culture and tradition for America.

Pathetic dogs.

>> No.2675581

>>2675557
lol. are you korean american? your shitty rap music do not sell well in Japan. and your shitty hollywood movies also do not sell well.
But Korean loves rap music and hollywood movies. Korean star Rain is a just like imitation of Michael Jackson. That makes Japanese people lol.

>> No.2675585

>>2675557
dog eater korean are puppy race who are eaten by human.

>> No.2675588

>>2675557

If America wants that Japan stop use stupid Kanji, Japan will stop. Whatever America wants, Japan must do. Because Japan is Americas little bitch. A little pathetic expansion.

Retard Japanese, shame of Asia.

>> No.2675597
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2675597

We Korean must apologize to Japanese people.

>> No.2675601
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2675601

>>2675588
lol. conversation by one korean. Korean really love this kind of post. lololol.

>> No.2675604

Japanese? Want play some baseball? Want play some soccer?

Shame disgusting.

>> No.2675610
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2675610

>>2675604
why you korean love too many spaces.

>> No.2675615

ITT: One faggot pretending to be Japanese and another faggot pretending to be Korean, trolling each other.

>> No.2675618

>>2675615
lol new fag

>> No.2675620

Korea make best sport. Tae Kwon Do. What Japan make? Judo? Karate?

Bull shit.

>> No.2675627

>>2675620
are you troll? you are stupid like korean. if you are human, do not try to behave like barbarian. it is not cool at all.

>> No.2675630

>>2675627

Are you Japanese?

You must be Japanese, only Japanese that stupid!

Tae Kwon Do= Olympic Sport.

Karate= Not Olympic Sport because primitive like Japanese.

>> No.2675636

>>2675630
lol your stupid tekondo can not win in K-1. Do you know it? korean who start tekondo said it is imitation of Karate. but most of Korean are proud of it. it is so stupid, but good enough for Korean.

>> No.2675641

>>2675636

That why Tae Kwon Do Olympic Sport? Because it stupid?

Pathetic Japanese. Why jealous?

Tae Kwon Do is Olympic sport because it recognized by world.

Why Karate no Olympic Sport? What you say now Japanese?

>> No.2675649

>>2675641
lol. stupid korean. Do you think that Olympic is so great? that sense of value is origin of Japan. other people do not think Olympic is so great.

>> No.2675651

>>2675649

Olympic is great.

Ignorant Japanese. Not care for Olympic because Japanese bad at sports. They have no time to do sport from learning 5000 kanji symbols.

Lol Japanese.

>> No.2675654

>>2675651
lol korean. you are so african. only african think like korean.

>> No.2675672

Korean are too stupid to know that they are like African. If the world is like Korean fantasy, everybody want to be African or Korean. but, the world is so different from Korean fantasy.

>> No.2675673

>>2675654

African? You know Japanese women would kill for black penis. They are crazy for it. They must have black penis in their body. Why are japanese women so pathetic? Maybe because they ill of small Japanese penis. They dream about gigantic black dick, they would die to be fucked by one.

>> No.2675683
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>>2675673
lol are you korean? do you know him? he is half korean and half African. he is korean and can play football better than korean, but he can not be the member of korean national team. because korean hate korean. but korean are so close to African.

>> No.2675689
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>>2675673
All Korean women are whore. Because Korean government prohibited being whore, they leave Korea and work as whores in other countries.

>> No.2675695

>>2675689

Japanese women biggest whores

Bestiality whores, Nigger whores.

Stupid shit.

>> No.2675699
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>>2675695
lol. you can't post pics because korean are liars.
Korean women want to be whores.

>> No.2675748

>>2675699

You right. We shit. We Korea.

Thank for showing me.

>> No.2675799

Oh my god I don't care if this is fake but it's the fucking best thread I've read in a long time

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