/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>26344719
It was never good

We really need a Vtuber board, It would make both veterans and holofags happy

>>26344719
>>26345430
>like 2 entire threads about hololive
>only one of them is even english hololives, the others are Japanese content
OH GOD THE HORROR OH NO HOW CAN I LIVE WITH ONLY 32 TOUHOU THREADS OH MY GOOOOD AHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>26345658
holoschizos are at it again

>>26345658
Those thread hit the archives way too fast there are like 15 every day

>>26345658
You couldn't possibly make it more obvious you're a crossie. Now get the fuck out

>>26345658
https://youtu.be/lTcYZ_ylAoE

>>26344719
yeah, there's too many touhou thread
Can't we just make a /2hu/ containment board so that we can have more threads to discuss idols, vtubers, doujin music and to learn japanese?

>>26345788
Calling others crossies while posting Suwako with blue eyes? Poor form

>>26346116
It's a piece of fanart I cropped and saved as a reaction image. How does that invalidate my point?

>>26345658
You'd have an argument if you chucklefucks didn't just spam the board with probably 20 threads, some of which were just non-youtubers but instead random characters from Touhou to Idolmaster, for a thread that is explicitly about something non-japanese that shouldn't have been allowed here in the first place.

>>26345658
that one shark girl was spammed like 8 times, and then several other vtuber threads were made as well. you have no argument anymore

>>26344719
If you lock the touhou shitter's inside their general in /vg/, this board will be pretty much comfy

>>26344719
I hate my teenagehood.
I'd rather be an adult than a powerless kid.

>>26346485
There would be only one thread if the retarded janny didn't keep deleting the threads

>>26346485
nooo, some of these high quality threads might get killed soon because of hololive threads

>>26346485
see >>26346723

Gura is otaku culture, there's no reason for her threads to be deleted but for 2hu to have like 20 threads

The Suiseiseki thread died for this.

>>26344719
It will be good as you make it

/jp/ has been shit for years and it's not even just because of the holofaggots, it's because there are too many fucking generals here, 3dpd idolfaggotry don't belong here either.

your time is over old man

Can't you all hide those threads?

It's really not that hard to filter out the garbage. It's not the best solution, but it really enhances the experience.

>>26348710
Literally all that's left is 2hu.

>>26348867
Precisely.

>>26348867
kancolle, elona, various im@s threads and so on and so forth. You know, what /jp/ was originally before the trash started stinking up the place.

>>26347081
Rip

>>26348710
But those are the best threads.

>>26348710
In this case that's the explicitly wrong thing to do, because a dozen threads will just fall off the board every two or three hours. At the absolute bare minimum least non-japanese shitgenerals should be banned, otherwise we're going to have people talk about fucking Kira whatever her name was from newgrounds if it's ignored instead of reported and becomes the norm.

>>26349041
kill yourself out of /jp/

raise the thread limit and allow more threads about miscellaneous japanese culture

>>26349276
more unrelated generals? gotcha

>>26348995
Devils advocate, idol threads were here before kancolle by a large margin. Doesn't make them any less shit but Kancolle distinctly came when the dumpster-funk had already been fused with the walls.

>>26345658
I only come here for /alt/ desu

>>26344719
If I were king of 4chan you wouldn't have to worry too much. Also fuck Rikafag AKA attention-whore Cynical.

>>26344719
Reduce the amount of generals

The main Holo thread has a Sakuya OP
>>26348155
It's 2hu!

>>26345658
Why do they insist on making disgusting posts like this?
Are vtuber fags all underage?

cute girls play games and do funny thing hehe better give her my entire paycheck or neetbux and then off to make 100 threads about her, maybe she'll pronounce my name better next time i donate hehe :)

>>26351138
No, just the people catered to by a company that spoonfeeds them subs and an ESL community that does the same.

holoniggers masturbate to holo lewds while the actual vtuber is getting dicked by her bf or just some hook up

hilarious to think about

I'll go ahead and say it, vtubers ruined /jp/

>>26349487
Sure, but it's in line enough with board culture that I don't mind seeing it.

>>26348995
>touhou, kancolle, elona, various im@s threads and so on and so forth
those can just go to /a/, /v/, /vg/, /h/, /d/ and so forth. there is literally no reason for those shitters to stay here.

>>26351609
Being a contrarian stopped being cool decades ago.

>>26352209
He's not contrarian, you are.

You people are fucking retarded for crying about "why does touhou get so many threads" implying theyre even remotely equivalent. The post rate in these stupid streamer threads is 100x the rest of the board and would completely drown out the entire board if let out of their containment threads.

>>26346030
This is the Touhou board.

>>26348867
No, dumbfuck, there are rhythm game threads, mahjong, elona, buyfag shit, visual novel translations, im@s. This board is just fine without all the 3DPD, streamer shit, and literal porn

>>26352409
>You people are fucking retarded for crying about "why does touhou get so many threads" implying theyre even remotely equivalent.
Not retarded if they're getting a reaction from a guy like you who believes they legitimately believe a word they actually say. They're literally just children who want to swing around their dicks to assert dominance, they'd say literally anything to get a reaction from someone they can then give a counter-reaction to and "epicly destroy" the other party in their minds. Which is going to happen no matter what, because they're literally delusional as stated earlier.

you all need to stop fighting

im a minority when i say i like both hololive and 2hu, but there needs to be a quality filter for fucks sake. seriously stop the fetish threads, stop the threads that are just glorified image dumps, and stop being angry. Seriously we all can unite under one cause: killing the 3D menace killing this board

>>26351184
one plays 2hu and even talks to ZUN. i dont give a fuck about people being whores to them with their wallet: I watch them for who they play and to have fun

I wonder how moot would have handled this predicament.

>>26353462
he would be watching vtubers with us

>>26352853
>im a minority when i say i like both hololive and 2hu
I hope not

>>26353738
it feels that way for me. i like 2hu but read the points i made. just stop with the fetish shit

I don't come here often but I agree the generals kinda blow. The best part of /jp/ is the random threads where people dump images, post memes and goof off.

Send the vtuberfags back to /a/, they never belonged here to begin with and now with the wester ones even less

>>26344719
Hololive has saved this stagnant board

>>26353927
vtubers just need their own board. They're faster than /pol/ sometimes. But Hiro wants more /v/ spinoffs instead.

how old are the tohou fags? they never tell me their age

>>26353927
They legitimately just need their own board. The post rate in Vtuber threads alone is faster than the fastest threads on 4chan. /jp/ was slow but does have a niche, the Touhou threads are all slow enough to where threads like Photography or Elona can survive. They would get completely destroyed if VTubers flooded out from their generals, which are just glorified chatrooms.

It's like a perpetual /b/ invasion, except they have the excuse of their stuff being condemned to this board. I don't like it. They should go away. Eh, all we can do is keep making more Touhou threads, to defend our homeboard. I stopped counting at 67, there's more than 67 touhou threads up right now, let's get that number higher.

>>26354113
There all over the place, always have been.

>>26354014
It wasn't stagnant.

>>26354120
It's always seemed strange to me that they've not added an idol board yet, especially since they just added 4 new video game boards. There shouldn't be any downsides to it right? There should be more than enough content for the threads to sustain their own board, and everybody's happy. At least it'd be better than this "us and them" fighting.

>>26353927
If vtuberfags were from /a/ we wouldn't be having this issue, hololive faggots are from /v/ and fucking reddit.

>>26354317
they probably rate by trafic and not by threads made

the holo degenerates are probably just making multiple threads all the time, same with the idol fags, bet you there's just 5-10 people posting in those threads making it seem like its populated

>>26352853
very based post

>>26353462
Remember when he called us "weaponized /a/"?

Have you guys ever tried submitting a feeback? I don't think the staff ever read those, at least not the ones categorised as "Board Suggestions", but it is probably worth giving a shot anyway.

>>26354984
The staff is perfectly aware of the situation, given how fast they moderate /jp/.

>>26354661
You forgot the worst part.

>>26354508
The current Holo thread is at nearly 2K posts, and 500 IP's. The sticky the other day was getting hundreds of posts a minute so I doubt it's a small userbase. All the more reason to just give them a board though - rather than them having to remake the same containment thread that hits bump limit in 30 minutes they can just have their own board with threads of their favorite characters like we do here.

Just a weird choice to me to add 4 new video game boards, with the exception of maybe the mobile games which probably deserved it given how many there are now. Even before Hololive there were calls to make an idol board and now with it I think they have a really good excuse to actually make one.

>>26355047
you really want a Vtuber board? That just stems into a board for internet celebs and that in itself is cancerous

>>26354984
Staff know and openly allow it. They've gotten like 5 stickies in the 6 months, which is probably the most /jp/ has had in the past 5 years. Makes absolutely no fucking sense to me why they wouldn't ban hololive from the board entirely, when their idea of making a new board is "literally just spam threads until they get rid of us".

>>26344719
Ultraman, ultraman seven...

>>26346485
/hlg/ has told that shark spamming faggot to stop ever since he started his retarded spam, blame the mods for not banning him.

>>26355047
>whats that? You want a platformer board? Coming right up with 8 new vidya boards.

>>26355086
Oh, and the bright red ban-text, which I haven't seen on this board in way more than 5 years. Didn't even know it was an option outside of of /v/, truth be told.

starting to feel bad about the spam, please bear it until moda give out and make a vtuber/eceleb board

>>26352853
I'm new to this otaku culture but what's wrong about 3d? I come here just for JAV and AKB btw, not as a poster though.

>>26354661
This is absolutely insane. 3 threads per hour yet faster posts/min than every other board on the fucking site. Get them their own board already.

>>26355422
see >>26355073

>>26355073
Well the only alternatives would be keeping them on /jp/, or moving them to another board which just puts the problem elsewhere. It seems like the best option if you try to look at it objectively.

>>26355349
Because JAV is a literal porn subject and idol groups are /mu/. The whole point of the board was for 2d otaku culture, mainly doujinsoft (Touhou in particular), and visual/light novels.

>>26355457
Or banning them outright.

>>26355493
Considering the threads are getting multiple stickies now, you know as well as I do that's not a realistic outcome.

>>26355493
that would be a terrible move considering how bad it is
>>26355457
keep them here because a Vtuber/E-celeb board is a horrid idea

>>26344806
But it was also never this bad

>>26355657
>>26355672
Explain. They get banned, they scream here for a day or three, and go back to the reddit that need I remind you they literally, and I do mean literally, came from.

>>26353927
>Send the vtuberfags back to /a/
Being mostly video game centric and just your average streamer bullshit, they never belonged there. /v/ doesn't want that trash either. They're a mixture of idol shit, e-celeb shit, streamer shit, /sp/-like game thread posting and now they're not even of Japanese origin. The argument that the threads fit the broad definition of otaku culture goes out of the window when there have been multiple video game related boards created over the years. So why not move this fast pace garbage somewhere else if creating an entire board is too much pain in the ass? Just move this shit to /vg/ or /asp/ like it happened to the wrestling generals from /sp/. Nobody cared if it wasn't technically a "sport", they moved that trash somewhere else at the end. Also, who's losing if they move the vy cancer to a fast board like /vg/? The cancer won't care. /vg/ might bitch about it but it won't affect the overall board and it will be just another fast paced general. So who really cares if they move the threads there? Even the 3D idolshitters are better behaved than these immigrants and that's setting the bar really low. For fucks sake we've had a my little pony board for eons and a global report type, no ponies outside /mlp/, tailored specifically to /mlp/.

tl;dr move this trash to /vg/ and everybody wins

>>26355713
yeah but some people like me like to talk about them. dont blame the people constantly spamming with those who want to discuss the subject and have fun. same with 2hu

>>26355713
You know the traffic is good for the site right dumbass?

>>26355713
Ask me how I know you weren't around for ponies

>>26355779
This entire website has had too much traffic since smartphones wound up in the pocket of every bored normalfag and snot-nosed kid.

>>26355801
ponies are a worse case and i think theyre in a league of their own. this is just big fad at the moment that doesnt warrant it.

>>26355801
You think this shit happening on one board and maybe to a much lesser degree one or two others is enough to treat 'em like /mlp/? That was a site-wide thing. This is cancer primarily focused onto one board, literally overtaking it, but unfortunately that's it. Give them a place to breed and they'll stay for good.

>>26355456
As opposed to what? If you let them out of their generals here then /jp/ will just be the VTuber board considering how much faster the traffic is in those threads. And the mods seem to have no interest in stopping them and are even encouraging it with stickies, are they going to get a new general thread every new fucking hololive generation? I didn't have too much of a problem with it because they kept to their own threads, but they're leaking out and causing trouble like Sallyfag did and at a much higher rate than his one-a-day "the otaku idol thread".

Every board on this website is already overrun with shit streamer or YouTube culture already. I agree that a board just for them or twitch streamers / ecelebs would just devolve into being a Kiwifarms-lite experience considering how fast they try to doxx the streamers and talk about drama, but I don't really know what else to do. Even problematic generals like Homestuck General on /co/ were eventually banned on their respective boards. You could shunt them to /vg/ I guess since it'd keep up with the board and threads on that board are built to be gigantic and longform.

>>26355946
You should probably give them time, the speed and frequency will not continue forever and they will probably end up a singular slow general on here in the future.

>>26355801
Can't even begin to compare this to that. If anything this post just proves you weren't around for bronies.

>>26355911
>Give them a place to breed and they'll stay for good.
My point exactly. There was a time between ponies on /co/ and /mlp/ existing with the global rule in place, and it was not a good time. And it was not a good time precisely because of ideas like >>26355713. And this is why I know >>26355713 either wasn't around, or wasn't affected, because they'd remember.

>>26356012
They've literally only gotten faster for years. The only saving grace was they kept to a few threads and stayed there. They've already splintered 3 times and when one thread dies 8 more a made at once until someone wakes up and deletes them.

>>26356012
Yes anon, give the general that is literally HALF OF THE BOARDS POSTING SPEED time to "slow down". Go jump in front of a train and tell that to it, see what happens.

It's amazing how much the Hololive threads have dropped in quality throughout the year with the influx of all the newfags. The threads may be hitting 2k posts every few hours, but of those posts, hardly any seem to be actual discussion about the streams.

>this whole thread
草

>>26356218
i sometimes have fun discussions but agreed. too many newfags who dont respect the boards culture. its better to not say anything than to post anything

at least i like the OC made

>>26355779
Maybe for the site, but not this board.

>>26356279
Toni-san....

>>26356012
Dude, they're only getting faster. Holo-ENG should have been your wakeup call that these aren't going away. The fact that their posting speed outstrips not only the rest of /jp/ but the entirety of 4chan is really a problem. It was fine when it was just a general "VTuber" thread but it's going to be far too much if they let them keep splintering.

>>26356218
It was better before the split, before the worst parts of this site and the worst parts of other sites found out about them through memes.

>>26356334
holoEN deserves to be in /bant/ at worst

>>26356334
I be honest anon, I haven't cared for anything other than the onahole general in years, I say this as someone who was a avid 2hu poster. I decided to start watching chuuba, and gave it a chance only to find it is pleasant. I am having fun again, are you?

Hololive here probably isn't probably going anywhere, there's a narrative that those stickies are actually Cover's guerilla marketing for the reason like: mods personally made those stickies, they were formatted like your generic marketing stuff including twitter and shit, they filtered EN previous lives names etc etc.

I find amusing how /jp/ is against vtubers in general when they are prime otaku culture. Comes to show some of them don't really want to keep the topic of the board, and just want it as a touhou dumping ground (and not even a good one at that)

>>26356012
> the speed and frequency will not continue forever
No one can be this delusional
For reference, the Hololive got a splitfag forcing 2 threads, mods accepted it and now both threads reach 2000 posts in 2 hours or less and the new one is getting even faster (one of the threads reached 2k in less than 1 hour).
/jp/ can bitch and make falseflag Holo threads as retaliation all they want, but we all know the only one to blame here is Hiro for refusing to make a Vtuber board, yet he wastes time making 4 useless /v/ boards.

2hu got its own board because you fags were destroying /a/, and now holofags are destroying your board until they get /vt/, Funny how the circle of life works

>>26356635
>I find amusing how /jp/ is against vtubers in general when they are prime otaku culture.
The sentiment seems to be less that and more "I don't care about it, but these threads reaching a combined 30-40 posts a minute should not be here", or "threads about an exclusively english speaking video maker/streamer group should not be on /jp/".

>>26356678
Its not sitewide anon.... In order to (usually) get a board thats focused towards one specific subject, it has to be sitewide spam.
At best the chuuba threads will end up on a streaming board like the one on 5ch

>>26356597
Holy shit I never even thought about that. Threads before never had shit in the OP, how long till one of them advertise the threads on stream and put the final nail in this coffin

>>26356597
Did the "edition" shit not tip you off?

>>26356739
its really the EN ones that bother people more

>>26356743
Considering how a lot of the newfags that contribute to the problem are from other boards, one could argue that it could potentially be a sitewide problem, but they just find it easier to shitpost here than to try make threads on their own boards.

>>26356512
I don't want to talk about livestreamers on fucking 4chan, so no. And yes, I actually do still enjoy threads about things like Cheating Detective Satori, thanks for asking.

>>26356852
I hate them both on principle, but if any of them should go it's the english ones. There's no argument against it.

>>26356852
Quite funny because if I didn't knew beforehand that one is english only and the other japanese, I wouldn't even be able to tell. Those threads are virtually the same

Also wasn't the original Holo thread discussing vtubers from China and Indonesia too? Why no one complained about those?

>>26346433
>not recognizing an obvious falseflag
We wouldn't have any problems if the meido didn't delete preemptive threads arbitrarily because there's two of them at the same time.

/jp/ - daily metathreads

>>26356852
This. Pokimane just made a 2d live avatar, should we be having threads about her too? It's literally just e-whoring behind an anime picture, especially in the case of the Egnlish-speaking ones.

>>26356960
the english ones are for an english audience while the JP ones are for the japanese. its weird because you have EOP's watching the japanese ones and the JOP's watching the english ones now

>>26356995
go ahead, No one really cares about her In here thought

>>26346433
>describes falseflaggers but can't tell
Anon...

Just make a board for idols and vtubers at this point. Why they made three unnecessary /v/ offshoots and one that did not even fix the issue, I will never know

>>26357074
No one understand what Hiro is thinking, really
>creates gachashit board
>gacha generals from /vg/ are not allowed

>>26356597
Sallyfag really should have just given his threads one of these stupid stock-standard "edition" formats and people would have left him alone.

>>26356635
I don't think most mind the content, if they were just another general, but rather what the threads actually do. The problem is how fucking fast they are, threads that used to take weeks to hit page 10 no less than even a year ago now only take a few hours. You could argue this isn't solely the fault of Hololive but it's not hard to see the correlation. There was a period of time where it was pretty blatant they were just trying to shove threads off the board so they could make a new general. They also leak out and spam the board from time to time now too.

Real question: Why are there spammers willing to get deleted/banned over and over making hololive threads but not make whatever thread they want instead? They could be making threads about whatever stupid borderline topic they want but they spam bearded wojacks instead. They could be making their once in a lifetime idolmaster vore thread or whatever they wanted to have on /jp/ but they squander their ip change on something pointless like this. It's as bad as that guy who just posts Merry or Konata when he's bored.

>>26357224
Because they are retarded. And I bet my ass those are the same retards who spam porn/guro in other threads on other boards whenever they see a post they don't like. It's quite common on /vg/ for some reason

>>26356994

>>26357209
welcome to every god damn place with speed sadly

>>26357209
Any thread that hits 2000 posts 6 times a day is unsustainable especially on a slow board like /jp/ was

Isn't there a good way to contact Hiro for the creation of /vtuber/? Even vtuberfags themselves want it

>>26357462
This board used to be one of the fastest...

>>26357377
I guess my point being there is that /jp/ has really sped up since they've been here, it's fundamentally changing the board and it's not hard to see why their presence isn't viewed fondly. I don't think the issue is really what Hololive is, but rather what it's threads entail which is a faster /jp/.

Voice of reason from a /jp/sie who's been here since the board was created and still hasn't gotten into vtubers yet here.
Seriously, hololive or whatever other kind of vtubers (including English-speaking ones) are fine in here for one reason: they're part of the current otaku culture and they're a trend that's getting stronger and stronger with otakus everywhere, including in Japan. Anyone who's been in here for long enough should know that /jp/'s better than letting /v/'s forced subculture wars affect it, so this whole bunch of people who keep fighting about which one deserves more space is a retarded crossboarder who needs to die and shut the fuck up. That said, the situation of vtuber fans in here is pretty damn awkward given how they're absolutely required to stay confined in one (or a few) thread at a time or else they'll take over the entire board, which causes said thread(s) to have extremely fast post rates and fill up to 2000 in no time. Because of that, creating a separate board for vtubers would be the best idea, but mods are fucking retarded and refuse to take the best action quickly so who knows when that will happen.

In regards to that dumb stream whore who modeled a vtuber after herself: she's retarded, everyone who wants to talk about her is retarded and everyone who doesn't get why that's retarded is retarded. The entire point of vtubers as I've seen so far seems to be fictional characters playing games and interacting with people, with the actors behind them being completely irrelevant. And then comes this idiot who doesn't fucking get the point but jumps into the fad anyway to get money from idiots, and then more idiots can't understand what she's doing wrong so they use this incident to shitpost. Please just fucking die all of you.

Also, in regards to Hololive EN: yes, despite them being English speakers, they're still part of Hololive and they're still vtubers (i.e. an up and coming otaku culture fad) so yes, they're perfectly welcome in here. However, they should stay confined to the same restrictions Hololive in general has due to the sheer amount of people who's into that thing. I also don't mind them having a second, separate general because the other thread is most likely nigh-unusable given its post rate.

Anyway, tl;dr:
1. Hololive (and all other vtubers) are fine on /jp/.
2. Tribalists need to go back to /v/ and die.
3. But because Hololive threads are so fast, a new board is needed.

And please stop making a metathread about this every 6 hours holy shit.

>>26357687
true, sadly

i like hololive, i hate tourists. let me watch my shit in peace
>>26357703
agreed

>>26357556
Maybe in 2010 it was. But that was a decade ago, hololive is only the past 6 months.

>>26357556
Only when it was unusable due to 10 pages of pure spam

Why the fuck am I still here..

>>26357703
vtubers aren't necessarily fictional characters.

>>26357793
Just to suffer

>>26357556
That was years ago, anon. Sadly /jp/ changed a lot. Most of the stuff that could be discussed freely are now contained on generals, leaving /jp/ as nothing but a place to post random facts about Touhou and Idolmaster characters, which being honest, have declined hard because of age.
I feel the entire whining happening right now is just because it's something big on a slow board, or at least that's how it looks to me after seeing the falseflagging threads with Touhou and wojaks, and the same anons sending the whining to /qa/.

>>26357703
Completely agree

>>26355073
>>26355946
Just make the board be dedicated specifically to vtubers only, and make it a huge rule that talking about e-celebs and doxxing is forbidden. It won't stop the few shitposters who are obsessed with ruining everything for everyone, but it will certainly discourage the general public from doing that.

>>26357224
Because they're literal children from /v/ or other fast boards who don't know how to discuss anything without putting it in a wojak format. They also don't realize how fucking stupid their argument is. Since they don't leave the VTuber or Idol threads they don't realize how much slower the board is.

Seriously, the Osaka Expo mascot thread has been up for over three weeks and is not threatened to come off the board. You have plenty of space to make whatever precious thread you want, Touhou isn't threatening to force it out.

>>26357556
because it was all niggy spam and tripfags blogging or making threads about themselves

>>26357870
They are fictional characters unless they are doing a bad job... why do you think the roommate is kept as separate as possible.
Cover literally sifts through applications to put a adequate meat into the skin, concept and soul that is devised.

>>26358142
some do a better job than others. kayfabe can only go so far for some as well

>>26357870
they might as well not be considering how fast the threads doxx them

>>26357870
Vtuberfags only want to talk about the characters, they don't care about the person behind it. There's a reason why any attempt at posting about the person behind it gets deleted almost instantly

Anyone want to talk about how /jp/ has taken over /s4s/, partially /bant/ and at one time /qa/, but not so much anymore? /jp/ should flex itself over those boards once again and be moved into the space with them, kicking /r9k/ out so that it's [bant / jp / s4s / vip / qa ] and also put /qa/ before /s4s/ because why is it out of order?

>>26357703
A pity that such a based post is going to go unnoticed by the people who need to see it

>>26344719
The answer is simple, make /vt/.

>>26357129
Does Hiro even do anything here anymore? Last I remember was the Virtual Youtuber thing which unceremoniously faded off. I always thought the new boards seem more like something a mod might have coerced him into doing.

/jp/'s always been one of the better moderated boards so I hope at least one mod is looking at some of the suggestions here and this thread isn't just pointlessly crying into the abyss. There's been some very valid points raised.

>>26358239
>>26358186
No, what I mean is there are vtubers who are just [existing Japanese person] with an avatar.

>>26358186
The key point is that they're intended to be fictional anime-like girls. If some people are so obsessed with ruining everything that they try to unveil the entire past of everyone online as soon as they hear their voice, that's their own issue and it has nothing to do with the main intent of this form of subculture being 2D/CG girls with quirky designs and personalities doing something on the internet and interacting with people.

>>26358440
Hiro could be taking a vacation on the Canary islands for all I know. I miss Moot. I bet he would've deliver on the gacha general and vtuber boards at this point

>>26358142
Cover isn't the end all of vtubers.

>>26358440
>Does Hiro even do anything here anymore?
Rake in the ad money and dodge whatever stupid C&Ds etc a website like 4chan gets sent

>>26356678
Yeah. Back then if they banned all 2hu posters on /a/ and told them to go back to Gaia or whatever, there wouldn't be /jp/ and we wouldn't have to deal with this problem now.

>>26358442
And how much popularity do those get? Are any of them part of one of these big vtuber companies like Hololive or Nijisanji or are they all indies? How much time do they spend blogging and begging for money in their streams? How comparable are they to real people who stream themselves?
If they're an exception to a subculture that became big because of a literal virtual fictional idol, don't treat the exception as the rule.

>>26357703
>In regards to that dumb stream whore who modeled a vtuber after herself: she's retarded, everyone who wants to talk about her is retarded and everyone who doesn't get why that's retarded is retarded.
Lost me here. This is literally, and I do mean literally, exactly what happened with Hololive EN. The only difference is one of them is tied to a company and the other is not.

>>26358440
He just puts the website on autopilot and coasts on ad revenue I'm pretty sure, of which I'm sure he gets a lot because of the massive increase of phoneposters who likely aren't using adblock. And since there's so many normalfags now he probably doesn't have to worry about things like The Fappening or other random things Moot got into legal trouble for.

>>26358666
Yes, but the generals are about hololive.... which is the work they put out, I just appreciate they thought about us specifically and gave us a generation... a really really good one, anon...

>>26358638
Moot is a fag that dodged the jp meatup

>>26358851
Why would Moot get into legal trouble for that?

>>26358847
>Lost me here.
Because you're retarded, as the post you quoted said you are. Try to not be retarded and you might be capable of understanding the difference between a whore who made an avatar of herself to stream and a person who's enacting a fictional character to stream.

>>26358357
I'm done waiting. I give up. Might as well read a book or something instead of using this site.

>>26356994
feels like 2015 /a/.

>>26359075
Is your knowledge of this ankle-deep? One of them is just straight up the same person they were before they became a vtuber, but with slight changes.

>>26359005
Moot owned the site, he had to explain why users of his website were doxxing a shitton of celebrities and posting their nudes publicly.

Early 4chan also had to answer for a lot of shit like raids.

I just want to talk about Gura somewhete that doesn't hit post limit in 2 hours...

Anyone pretending vtubers don't define otaku culture infinitely more than touhou does at this point in time is completely out of touch with reality. I play touhou too but there's no good reason to use the otaku culture board as a cryogenic frost chamber to keep 10 posts per week touhou image dump threads "alive". Times change.

>>26359293
So? They're still acting as whatever avatar they currently have. Their past lives are entirely irrelevant, and that's what makes them the characters they're acting as now.
Which is clearly the same thing as some twitch whore making an avatar of herself to stream as herself, yeah.
You really are fucking retarded.

>>26359356
He wasn't doing it himself, though.

>>26359421
>mfw gachimuchi has been dead for years now

>>26359413
reddit, discord or whatever hellhole you retards came from.

>>26359421
Neither is "more" otaku culture than the other, the only difference is that one of them became popular ages ago and the other became popular now. The only reason why I want /vt/ to happen is to give you people more breathing room than a few spammy threads at a time, and also so /jp/ doesn't get completely overtaken by a single subject.

>>26359413
Fuck off

>>26359503
Billy died anon...
I'm literally 29 now, times change. Don't be sad, just enjoy the fact we get to experience magic again.... and...
Take it easy

>>26359421
/jp/ has been a Touhou circlejerk for years, of course many posters would feel threatened seeing their circlejerk being overtaken by a new giant.

>>26359503
and there is this fucking retard using this non /jp/ related image, at fucking least, if you're going to stay here have the decency of using shit that belongs to this board. hell, use a reaction image of your virtual whore, this actor is not /jp/.

>>26359421
Except that's how the natives of /jp/ like it. We like having our nice, calm little slice of this hell to be comfy and have fun. We don't want to be like the other, bigger boards. That's not fun.

>>26359503
Who are you quoting?

>>26359506
And then there's this kind of idiot whose entire personality is defined by "stop liking what I dislike". Please shut the fuck up.

>>26358112
this

>>26359711
I don't give a fuck if you like english streamers, just get the fuck out from /jp/.

>>26354984
At this point I'm doing it almost every day, especially because shitposters finally caught wind of this issue and they're starting to make the problem much worse.
It's in times like this that moot's "hurr mods can't talk freely" rule hurts the most.

>>26359958
Why not encourage hiromoot to create a vtuber board then?

>>26359498
You can't comprehend that an owner of a website might be legally liable for what people are posting on there? Why do you think 4chan has rules against CP and threatening posts?

How old are you? Seriously.

>>26360094
because I don't want that either, I want you redditors out from 4chan, eceleb doesn't belong on 4chan.

>>26357703
no, you can die and take your no true scotsman fallacy with you. same with all the other faggots making similar claims that it's only outsiders that have a problem with vtubers, the board speed, or the spillage.

they're 3d with a 2d veneer, and it's the same cult of personality horseshit that you'd get with any streamer, idol, etc. if it's going to be on /jp/ then it needs to stay in its containment generals just like idolshit. clearly, though, that isn't sustainable, so they need to go somewhere else.

>>26359958
Try to read the rest of the thread, especially the longer posts that address that point. English-speaking streamers that adhere to the vtuber culture are just as fine as the Japanese-speaking ones, because /jp/ isn't only about Japanese things and because those are also part of today's otaku culture.
>>26360094
That would be the best outcome for everyone but mods aren't known for caring about what's best for everyone. See /vr/.

>>26360094
Retards don't want to fix the problem, they just want an excuse to shitpost. See
>>26360219
>>26359958

Would character specific threads about certain vtubers where people share fanart/talk about them really be that much worse than threads like this? >>26345603

>>26360219
>>26360230
>eceleb
>they're 3d with a 2d veneer
Except for how they fucking aren't, you god damned retards. Even though it's amusing how hard you keep repeating this as if it was a mantra and exposing how retarded you are more and more, after a certain point it just becomes depressing instead.

>>26360238
>English-speaking streamers that adhere to the vtuber culture are just as fine as the Japanese-speaking ones
that's a lie, posts that are about english vtubers always get deleted, hololive en is literally the only exception right now.

If a Vtuber board were to be made, what would it even look like. A thread for each individual stream? With the hopes that all the shitposting threads dont push everything else off? Would there be any room for actual discussion

>>26360312
The issue is that due to how populous vtuber fans are, allowing those threads would quickly spiral out of control into them taking over the entire board. /jp/'s post quality doesn't have anything to do with it and I want to preserve the board's personality above everything.
THAT among other reasons is why a new board is needed, so vtuber fans can talk about whatever they want including those character threads for every character without overtaking the entire /jp/.

>>26359958
The english speaking streamers are following a japanese fad and imitating their japanese counterparts while working for a Japanese company. You know it belongs here.

>>26360288
really? I want to shitpost? have you seen the fucking state of your general? get the fuck out of here with this nonsense.

>>26360472
I guess you're right but still, Hiromoot doesn't give a shit anymore, I don't think he'll make a new board

>>26360532
Don't you have another wojak thread to make in disapproval?

>>26360448
Yes, a thread for every vtuber.

Maybe you'll find an obscure one and you end up being a fan because of /vt/ being made.

>>26360008
With the new boards recently added, at least it's not a total pipe dream. Hololive is only going to keep growing and if >>26354661 is any indicator things have hardly even come to a head yet. I really hope they actually do it, or at least something.

>>26360312
Yes? That thread is going to get maybe 2-5 posts a day and has no threat of pushing off a thread that might get actual discussion like Elona or the Touhou Gameplay thread.

As opposed to the VTuber threads which get 200 in a fucking minute. What you think this board is with Touhou is what it actually would be if there were threads for every single VTuber.

>>26360326
they're literally video game streamers. youtuber threads get deleted on /v/, don't see why they're allowed here though.

>>26360441
Are you sure those posts are made in the generalized vtuber thread? Are you sure the people who frequent that general are fine with this sort of content? Are you sure that you're talking only about English-speaking vtubers who still try to act like fictional characters?
Because if not, then it's obvious why those posts get deleted.

>>26360112
I'm 22, and it's more that I disagree with it, really. I don't like it, the reasoning doesn't make sense to me, but I do comprehend it, I guess. Most people view language as objective and words as meaningful, so people aren't free to post whatever they want, because freedom of speech cannot co-exist with the idea that human constructs can be objective. Bleh.

>>26360577
no idea what the hell you're even implying here, but wojak and pepes aren't allowed on /jp/ either.

>>26360448
Generals for companies (Nijisanji, Hololive)
Thread for specific youtubers, maybe just to watch the stream or maybe just to post fanart and talk about their personality and stuff just like 2hu threads here

>>26360622
Video game streams who use avatars and act like fictional characters, yes. That's the whole fucking difference. Being unable to understand the difference between reality and fiction is why you're fucking retarded.

hey why not make it so no one can post new threads and people are forced to delete their old posts to post again

>>26360635
I lurk /vy/, and you're literally making shit up, non japanese chubas aren't allowed there, the posts always get deleted.

>>26360564
Personally I wouldn't have any hope of this either in the past, but just a few weeks ago he made 4 nearly useless boards that nobody asked for. If he didn't want people to raise issues with him asking for board splits, he should have stayed quiet in regards to letting people know that new boards can still be made.

>>26360644
Dude you're not just allowed to post shit like childporn and doxx people whenever you want because of "free speech" or whatever. You seriously have to understand that literally any website or social media outlet has rules to protect the company. Moot once had to answer as to why someone on /b/ said they were going to shoot up the Super Bowl. You can't just go into your workplace and say you're going to kill all niggers either and if you were running around with workplace uniform on you represent the company and your bosses would have to answer for it too.

>>26360819
>make the whole board work with rolling sticky
Madman, but I can see people here STILL complaining about it

>>26360620
Mods kept a Gura thread up for a hour and It got only 80 replies (and that was because half of them were people complaining about it being made)
Character specific threads, as long as they are not "watch alongs" will be exactly like 2hu threads, with people talking about the character, their relationships and posting fanart

>>26360717
Ah, yeah, very fictional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0cMTULJSks

>>26360849
And that's exactly my point, people aren't fine with that kind of thing so it gets deleted. If they were, it wouldn't be. It's that simple.

>>26361020
that's NOT how 4chan works, this is not reddit.

>>26360972
Yes, fictional. That's some sort of dumb dragon and not some 3DPD woman, that's the entire fucking difference. Holy shit.
>but they interact with real things!
That's one of entire points of vtubers as well, in case you haven't noticed. Fictional characters interacting with real people. How fucking dense are you?

bring back the neet thread

You're fine to like VTubers and Hololive if you like, I won't care to police what someone is entertained by, but thinking they're any different from twitch thots is delusional. They just have a 2dlive character instead of a webcam and have the added bonus of having a company bankroll them to pander to people instead of just doing it themselves.

>>26360448
Like this
https://dec.2chan.net/73/futaba.htm

>>26361057
Clearly you haven't lurked enough if you can't understand that self-moderation still has some power, and what people are fine with or not is what shapes a board.
>no everything I dislike is reddit!
Clearly you haven't lurked enough.

>>26360972
I fucking hate this bitch

I was afraid of bugs as a kid.
I'm afraid of bugs now.

>>26360972
Coco's character is literally being a bimbo bitch that is fluent in english, watch her non-vtuber streams and see the difference

>>26361184
So dead basically

/idol/ - Kpop/Virtual Idols

>>26361183
>They just have a 2dlive character instead of a webcam and
are actors playing a character instead of some nobody acting as themselves.
I really don't understand how hard it is for normalfags to understand that reality and fiction are two different things.

>>26361304
LITERALLY THIS

>>26358440
>/jp/'s always been one of the better moderated boards
This place has always been /a/'s trashcan. Why do you think monmusume and djt ended up here?

>>26346781
holofag here, i would be pissed if the yukari and aya threads got deleted because of the schizos making 8 threads at once

>>26361367
You really think Twitch streamers aren't acting? Absolutely laughable. Going to be crazy when you learn that there isn't a guy really named "Doctor Disrespect" out there.

This is just schizos mad because something new is breaking the status quo.
I still remember how angry was this place when people attempted to talk about Love Live back in the day

>>26360924
>You seriously have to understand that literally any website or social media outlet has rules to protect the company
They shouldn't need that. They're not physically hurting anyone, are they? No? Then it should be no-holds-barred. If language was considered a subjective construct, there wouldn't be an issue in the first place. Someone says they're going to do something bad? Doesn't matter, because that is not an action, that's words. It matters once they go through with it, because most people would agree that the effects of their actions had a real effect on real ppeople.I also don't really care for the idea that I represent my company, why would an employee speak for the entire company, I don't run it, I'm just a cashier, I do not have any effect on how the company as a whole operates. If I did, I could see the logic.

>>26361453
Are they filming themselves forcibly acting like retards or playing some anime-looking dude who tries to get back in character every so often?
Maybe if I repeat this point enough times you'll get it eventually.

>>26358440
>>26361414
/jp/ is in a weird spot. It generally does well with self-moderation or moderation on individual posts which is why the board isn't overflowing with pepe and wojak and "based/cringe" etc.

But the board is also plagued by the fact that /a/ mods just move shit here when they don't want to deal with it (DJT, Seiyuu shit), and /jp/ mods do no policing on threads that shouldn't be here (monstergirl, JAV)

>>26361221
Anons aren't fine with hololive eng, you are here because you're a loud new crossboader/crossite majority.

>>26361453
Pretty sure a anime girl with a shark hoodie repeating "aaaa I'm a shaaak, I'm gonna bite you! uwaaa don't hurt the fishies!" for a hour is different from a twitch streamer creating a rude/cocky personallity to get more views

>>26361748
it's literally the same shit.

>>26361621
I'm here because I've been here since the wall was erected, and because I don't want to let a bunch of /v/ tribalists make decisions for the board I love the most.
I literally don't care about vtubers, but I don't see the issue in them. HOWEVER, they're so numerous that they shouldn't be let outside their few generals, and because of that and how big this subject has gotten recently, they deserve their own board, both to prevent any future issues with /jp/ and to give them more breathing room.
Please don't act like an idiot.

This board is just fated to be a big ass general board anyway as big otaku culture topics like Touhou, idols or vns lose relevance and get replaced with the new big otaku culture stuff like vtubers and gacha.
We ossan's gotta accept it at some point. I've been through most otaku culture stuff at some point but nowadays I just don't give a shit about anything but idols, japanese music and tv.

Generals are just a good answer on how to keep real niche topics alive in a landscape where mods don't give a shit about making new boards. I seriously think at this point more Touhou generals would make Touhou fans happier than just losing their board to the new kids or something.

>>26361748
What? These are quite literally the same thing. The girl isn't just doing it for no reason, it's to get views and money. You think Hololive/Nijisanji/etc are just bankrolling these without intending to make money?

>>26361876
Whoa buddy, are you actually trying to post something reasonable here? Get out

>>26361924
And why is she getting money? Because she was hired by that agency to act as that specific character in order to get money.
Are you really unable to understand the difference between an actor and a person?

>>26357703
>Voice of reason from a /jp/sie who's been here since the board was created
No one gives a fuck you self-important retard

>>26361847
>>26361924
I'm not gonna change your mind so I don't see the point in continuing this conversation that isn't relevant to the thread's main topic

>>26361748
>twitch streamer creating a rude/cocky personallity to get more views
Literally Pekora

>>26362079
Of course you don't care since you still haven't had to take anything seriously in your life.

>>26362075
The twitch streamers are playing a character too.

>>26362150
Pekora was like since her NND days though.

>>26361748
This is pure delusion.

>>26344719
Come on, you fags have been saying the same thing over the last decade or so. /jp/ has never been "good."

>>26357703
Reasonable.

>>26362199
Using their own images. That's one of the differences that you're too stupid to understand since your entire argument is based on this single point, so you keep ignoring any attempts to bring it down and repeating it over and over again.
But thankfully, it will never be the truth no matter how hard you wish it were.

>>26361866
I don't think they deserve anything, just ban them, kizuna ai threads were always deleted, so I don't know why the fuck mods are giving this general that isn't even about japanese artists so much leeway.

>>26362228
That's the point. It's all the same.

Hi from the holo EN thread, /jp/ is the vtuber board now sorry bros

>>26362159
No one gives a fuck about how you think you're the savior of /jp/ and the "voice of reason", you're just some anonymous retard like the rest of us who thinks anyone they're disagreeing with is a crossboarder.

Vtubers are the future. Hating them is like being one of the guys that hated rock and roll in the 50's.

>>26362301
That was the first time I replied to you, actually. But your argument is pretty weak if it boils down to "but the avatar is anime".

This thread in a nutshell
>vtuberfags want to stay on their general or get a new board
>antivtuberfags want them to fuck off from /jp/, 4chan and the entire internet
>the few actually reasonable posts gets ignored

tldr: take your meds, grandpas. the chuubas are modern otaku culture and are finally giving some life to this touhou dumping ground

>>26362288
Wait, why aren't there any male english Hololives like there are Japanese ones?

>>26361876
>Generals are just a good answer on how to keep real niche topics alive
Generals are cancer, they've always been.

Who cares if you think vtubers are the same as twitch streamers, the point is that they are otaku culture and also HUGE, they should get their own board

Just because It's a otaku sub-culture you dislike doesn't mean It doesn't deserve It's own place to be discussed

>>26362307
If Pekora was doing that during NND's glory days before Twitch was a thing how can she be a twitch streamer?

Kick hololive eng, japanese main branch can stay.

>>26356635
Belle delphine with an anime avatar is not otaku culture.

>>26362440
Because HoloEN released like 4 days ago dumbass

>>26362301
not really sure why you're stamping your feet trying to imply theyre not the same thing when the only difference between them is which media conglomerate is bankrolling them

>>26362371
I have no hope for a generation that doesn't even bother to play games themselves, watching other people do it for them instead.

>>26362430
Maybe because that's exactly one of the entire fucking points of this fad: anime characters playing games and interacting with a chat.

>>26362649
most people do both

>>26362649
Who cares about what you think dude this is not what the thread is about

>>26362576
So now you mean that indie vtubers aren't vtubers since nobody's backing them? Yeah it sure makes a lot of sense.

>>26362649
>watching someone play automatically removes your ability to play them too
Anon are you okay?

>>26362438
yeah god forbid we have a place to talk about visual novels or light novels

>>26349041
>JAV
Just say you're a coomer.

how did hololive en even get popular, I may only lurk a few threads but wasn't westerners mimicking japanese girls considered bad? What happened?

>>26362438
>tldring a post that short
This place had plenty of life before.

>>26362780
It's all sea monkeys and other subhumans

>>26346030
You came to /jp/
And you don't even know the history
The audacity

>>26362781
And then there's a literal, unapologetic /v/ermin spewing their favorite buzzword.

>>26362814
the audience or the hololives?

>>26362566
and it intentionally released without a male one.

>>26362780
People had no hopes for it and it turns out to be decent, maybe because the girls aren't Americans. Even 5ch is enjoying it over their JP branch

Is there anyone here that is actually, unironically agains't a vtuber board? It would benefit both sides, people that hate vtubers kick them out and vtuberfags get their own place to post/shitpost/masturbate or whatever they do in their 2000 posts general, if you are against a new board being made could you explain to me your reasoning?

Have any of you even bothered to go to IRC? Given the last public bans mods are probably aware of the situation >>26310976
>>26311134

>>26362780
there was apparently a fuckload of people interested in hololive that never watched the streams because they didn't know japanese
now all those people have gone from watching clips to EN streams
>>26362878
aren't 3 japanese 1 german 1 american?

>>26355672
That shit plagues /b/.
It's basically random/e-celeb shithole
Heck, they had a thread dedicated to Emma Watson's nipples the other week

Blame the retarded meidos for not doing anything about holocancer before it spread too much and now it's too late. The only thing that would save /jp/ is a /holo/ board to contain it like /mlp/.

>>26362927
No idea about the american, but i know there's 1 austrian and 1 korean

>>26362916
The only arguments against it in this thread are that it'd just turn into an overall eceleb board with doxxing and kiwifarms-esque shit. personally i'd rather see them get their own shit out of here because the post rate is clearly unsustainable in their generals but it'd also kill /jp/ completely if they were let out

>>26362868
HoloJP also released without a male one dummy, they're called holostars and released in group of 5 men with each generation, please don't talk about something you have no understanding about

vtubers need their own board at this point man..

>>26362924
Have you even seen the latest IRC chat log that started getting posted recently, with mods doing furry ERP? I have no idea how to actually contact mods these days (maybe the feedback form) but I doubt going that route would result in anything.

>>26362916
Because it's an eceleb board, and moot said that he'd never add one, so I don't think hiromoot will do it either.

>>26362780
it surprised everyone
they were surprisingly good

>>26358125
Don't forget 200 posts in one thread made by a bot in order to archive it faster because someone didn't like what was posted.

>>26362927
why are the japanese making it so hard for me to enjoy japanese culture

>>26363153
Because you are stuck in 2008

>>26363073
>mods doing furry ERP
Seriously?

>>26363024
That's why keeping it only to vtubers and not allowing any sort of real life streamer would solve all those issues, but then a bunch of shitposters who don't want to see anyone get to any conclusion keep insisting that there's no difference between anime avatars and real people.

>>26362774
>light novels
you have /a/ for that

>>26362867
The audience, especially the people posting here. Every board is being flooded with esl posters from south america and south/southeast asia, it's the biggest contributor to the decline in quality in the site.

>>26363153
You should have learned japanese my man

>>26359696
This is /jp/ in a nutshell.

>>26363193
he's a retard from /v/ that doesn't even know how to get into IRC, what the fuck do you think.

>>26363214
prove it

>>26363183
take me back please
>>26363231
I started recently, but this shit is honestly discouraging like are they just going to keep shilling to westerners now and if so what's the point

The threads get automatically archived once they reach 2000 posts.
A new board might be nice but it's not like the Hololive threads are pushing other threads off the catalog.

>>26363275
Have you really not seen that image with @uwu? I'm not risking a ban over that shit so I'll just tell you to learn how to lurk more.

>>26363024
>>26363098
Check the holoEN archives, all of the posts that even slightly were related to doxxing got deleted, just ban doxxing discussion from the board, keep that level of moderation and a new board would be fine, call it /vtubers/ or whatever

>>26363193
Have you never seen mod logs? They're all disgusting.

>>26363329
Just learn it, don't give yourself excuses
The beginning is the hardest part, once you are mid-intermediate you can honestly coast to fluency with not much effort

>>26355946
>kiwifarms is a doxxing website
>doxxing
>xx

>>26363336
The only times threads are pushed out are when generalfags rush to make a new thread, or when the vtuber haters tried to flood /jp/ with fake hololive threads with inmu and touhous on the OP.
Amazing how the crybabies just became part of the problem

>>26363382
Because doxxing is against the rules regardless, it has nothing to do with vtubers. moot was against an eceleb board for different reasons.

>>26363319
Visit a board with flags enabled.

>>26363464
who are you quoting?

>>26363476
A vtuber board with no doxxing discussion allowed would not turn into kiwifarms bro, It would literally be impossible, unless you make up headcanons about how korone killed pekora's great great rabbit grandpa or something dumb like that

>>26363470
Why can't you just admit you dont know anything? Making up bullshit that makes you feel better isn't helping anyone

>>26363558
(you)

>>26363595
It's okay anon, the vtuberfags are not going to kill you while you sleep. shhhh it's fine

>>26363329
Who’s this girl?

>>26363585
/jp/ could already be considered a kiwifarms lite with hololive threads having almost daily dox discussions that stay undeleted for hours.

>>26363585
Your general does that everyday.

The real problem with vtuber threads is that they stopped being gatekept and turned into crossboarder hell, look at this shitty OP and tell me it belongs on /jp/ >>26362318
if those fuckers stopped spoonfeeding newfags and told them to fuck off maybe their general wouldn't hit the post limit in a hour

>>26363585
The normal threads already do this, people figured out who the Holo-EN girls were within hours.

>>26363677
>>26363759
>>26363816
Which results in waves upon waves of deleted posts because it's not allowed. Shitposters love ruining everything for people who like things, who'da thunk.

>>26363677
>>26363759
>>26363816
The problem is the moderation and not the topic, if instead of just deleting doxfag posts mods actually banned those retards frequently there would be no problem

>>26363801
>vtuber threads is that they stopped being gatekept and turned into crossboarder hell
Not the Nijisanji thread, they keep gatekeeping and reporting anything that remotely reeks of nu /vy/ and /holo/, it's a slow clean thread with none of the faggotry the other two have.

>>26363891
>waves of waves of deleted posts
Not from what I've seen.

>>26363801
>if those fuckers stopped spoonfeeding newfags and told them to fuck off maybe their general wouldn't hit the post limit in a hour
They only exist there because the newfags that were told to fuck off went to a different thread.
They know crossboarder shitposting isn't welcome on /jp/, so they went where it is. The generals.
There were wojaks in the general threads last year and the year before that, but other threads and even making a thread with them was deletion on sight.
Generals became infested with newfags because the rest of /jp/ did its due diligence in telling them to fuck off.

>>26363801
It's impossible to keep gatekeeping up forever, at some point the flood gets far stronger than the dam. On the upside this might contribute for the creation of a new board eventually, I really can't see mods seeing those daily post limit threads and think everything is fine forever.
>>26363960
All past few threads I've seen, namely for HoloEN, had that.

>>26363917
>The problem is the moderation
I agree, for some retarded reason meidos are really fucking fast to delete any sign of shitposting in the nijisanji thread while ignoring the other vtuber-related threads for hours or days. Maybe if they weren't so fucking lazy it wouldn't get this bad.

This is just gonna be another thread that fills me with hope about a actually useful board being added but that ends up not changing anything because hiromoot is lazy...

>>26363917
The problem is that your general is a newfag cesspool, mods aren't going to ban every single anon there.

>>26344719
rangeban /t/ and /gif/ crossboarders and 2.5d idol schizos

>>26364146
Meanwhile he adds dozen videogames-related boards. How fucking hard it would be to make a /ecelebs/ and /vtubers/ boards?

Perhaps the reason Hiroshimoot doesn't want to make the new board and therefore legitimize the vtuber trend is basically a cope or an attempt to keep his own failed attempt at getting in on that somewhat "under the rug".

>>26364182
Well they should

>mfw I don't care about this because I don't browse virtual youtuber threads and I haven't seen vtuber posters bleeding to other unrelated threads
You people are dumb

>>26363585
>bro
>kiwifarms
I can tell you're not from here, faggot

>>26360717
The AVGN is a fictional character, not how James Rolfe is in real life.

>>26364230
Because those are cancer, we established that already.

>>26364329
And it would keep the cancer contained, just like /mlp/ does.

>>26364235
this was a failed idea from the start, it would have brought in a shitton of money and views but whoever they got to do it would have been instantly doxxed and harassed

>>26364230
>/ecelebs/
Never.
>/vtubers/
If only.

>>26364235
Don't make me remember it...

>>26364289
Fuck off, crossie

>>26364368
That's an autism board, not a cancer board.

>>26364235
>4chan vtuber
I forgot this was a thing

>>26364289
thanks for your greentext crossboard input faggot

>>26364235
It was in name only

>>26364294
Someone mentioned Kiwifarms so I mentioned it as well because it was relevant to the discussion

At this point they should just fuck it and allow kpop here too.

>>26364289
https://youtu.be/lTcYZ_ylAoE

>>26356194
>HALF OF THE BOARDS POSTING SPEED
You obviously haven't been paying attention. It's 99.9% of the board's posting speed.

One thing I've always liked about /jp/ is how I could one day decide to change my vocabulary and nothing would happen, but all hell would break loose if someone tried to copy me.
Never change.

>>26364533
Koreans and Japanese hate eachother

>>26364235
>>26364411
2D vtubers weren't a thing back then. this was still during AI's peak.

>>26364511
you even spelled doxing wrong. Come on now

>>26364596
>30 times faster than the fastest actual /jp/ thread
No wonder some people are mad at them

>>26357703
>a /jp/sie who's been here since the board was created and still hasn't gotten into vtubers yet here.
It's not nice to lying on internet you know

>>26364596
>/out/ - activity now -
Heh.

>>26364665
No it wasn't. It was late 2018.

>>26364665
>2D vtubers weren't a thing back then. this was still during AI's peak.
That's not true. There were already 2d vtubers around that time

>>26364596
i really wish people would look at these analytics more. to imply "touhou spam" and the vtuber threads are even remotely equivalent or similar is a bold faced lie. completely intellectually dishonest

>>26363960
Bullshit.

>>26364596

>>26364734
Look man It's 3 am, the guy that I was replying to spelled it wrong too, where are you trying to get at

>>26364818
The difference here is that the vtuber threads are selfcontained, and then people talk about "touhou spam" they talk about the number of threads dedicated to individual touhou characters (sometimes even multiple threads for the same character, just different topic)

>>26364767
could swear that vtuber design contest was right after the banner one.

>>26364596
The global general OP pic just says it all. I don't even

>>26364877
I'm completely awake at 3am
You have no excuse dude

>>26364596
>/jp/ is faster than /a/, /tv/, and /b/
Jesus Christ

>>26364908
those posts get maybe 1 post an hour if theyre lucky and provide no danger to pushing off even halfway active threads. not even remotely similar

>>26364976
And entirely because of two threads.

>>26364908
/jp/ is the 2hu board, /jp/ was created for this sole reason. There is no 2hu spam, this board is for 2hu, the other generals are only here because they don't have a place anywhere else.

>>26364988
Yes, and no one has implied otherwise. Once again, they were talking about number of threads, not post per minute

>>26364947
Sorry but I haven't slept in like 20 hours and I was working all day, i'm happy that you're full of energy

>>26364596
What the fuck is that OP? How the hell did that fly--
Ah, why am I even asking. Mods are just letting /jp/ die to literal /v/ shit. 50-ish posts of it per minute.

>>26365000
I think JAV is on 4 boards or it used to be.
/gif/ turned into a tranny board(literal threads of guys fucking eachother) and I think that was the last I saw of it on that board.

>>26365000
then create a place for vtubers

>>26365052
Ive gone 50 hours on separate occasions
Less menial work and more mental

>>26365000
>other generals are only here because they don't have a place anywhere else
Idol shit could get moved to /mu/, we don't need all the fucking drama it brings here.

I'm just so tired of the westernization
all the twitch and reddit and twitter streaming culture
the invasion of these people in japanese media
then the japanese people embracing it for money
i know it's been happening for a long time
why can't people just think I'm weird for liking japanese stuff again

>>26364947
>>26365172
nobody cares about how much work you do and how intense you are about posting on fucking 4chan

>>26365210
/mu/ is already bad enough why would you do that to them

>>26365296
Who said I had a job?

>>26365319
Kuso Pop might have competition then
I have no idea why they're on /bant/ nowadays

>>26365319
That's what idolfags deserve. And vtuberfags by extension, since good part of vtubers are failed idols.

>>26362916
Eceleb threads of any kind get cancerous fast, i can only imagine how ugly a vtuber board would get

>>26361184
What a heavenly board, no holoshit on sight

>>26364908
>The difference here is that the vtuber threads are selfcontained
Explain this.

We'll wait.

>>26365417
We had a Gura thread that was up for a hour and aside from the people metaposting and begging the mods to delete it, it had nothing ugly in it, just people posting clips, talking about what they like about Gura, posting fanart, etc

Maybe it's finally time for Kanji captcha.

>>26365537
Holofags are nothing more than plebbitfags and think they have to make a new thread for every little thing. Look at Nijisanji, one slow thread that gets remade once per week, so it's obvious this isn't a problem with vtuber fans in general, but only holocancer.

>>26365537
Also forgot to mention; pay attention to the dates. This is more threads than /jp/ would normally get in a week all in the span of 24-some hours.

>>26365671
It's no use, the vtubers are teaching their audience japanese. Soon enough not even kanji captcha will be able to stop them

>>26365000
why they named it "otaku culture" when its actually touhou? that would be like going on /vr/ but then each maverick/robot master from megaman have his own thread.

>>26365537
A bunch of people each trying to take the OP of the next thread after their previous one reaches the post cap, as well as shitposters riding the wave of shitposting in an attempt to force more outrage.
Note the trash cans. They mean those threads got deleted.

>>26365210
Too slow for /mu/, when I say that generals are here because they don't have a place anywhere else, I mean mostly because they're too slow for the other boards. blog, kancolle, rhythm games, etc are just too slow for /vg/, and they'd die before even hitting 100 posts. The only fast generals on /jp/ is the one nuked from /a/ and this hololive fad.

>>26365760
It was originally Japan/General, which probably fits more for it's current state...

>>26365775
>Note the trash cans. They mean those threads got deleted.
Yes. After taking up how many spots on the catalog, thus breaking it's self-containment again? And that's not even counting the shit from earlier when some faggot made like 7 threads with that shark girl. Keep grasping for your straws though.

this thread is gay

>>26365760
because the board is for doujinsoft and things like visual novels or figs/merchandise. it was also created as a touhou containment board which is why theres a lot of touhou

this isnt hard to understand

you are all a bunch of retards

>>26365760
If you're going to make assertions about this site and what things were meant for, you should learn a single fucking thing about it's history.

Lurk. Moar.

>>26365998
Then why idols and gacha shit is allowed here?

>>26365954
Those shark threads were made only after the last one was deleted, if it didn't get deleted there would be only one thread

have the mods said anything about what they're planning to do?

>>26366106
Read

>>26366148
Yes, they're planning to do nothing about holoshit and just leave it as is. /jp/ is fucked for eternity now.

>>26363193

>>26366106
>>26365802

>>26366148
Of course not

>>26366173
Then why are JAV threads allowed here?

>>26362469
If twitch streamers aren't allowed on /v/ they shouldn't be allowed on /jp/ either.

>>26366173
>>26366197
So what you're saying is that this isn't a 2hu board but general japanese culture board, and since vtubers are now a huge part of that, the vtuber threads are fine here. Thanks for making it clear.