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>>2623548
This is true. The average american student has rather poor math skills.

Their teaching method is flawed when it comes to higher education.
Although their rigor at the lower levels is vastly superior to that in America, Asian college students learn more rote memorization and less concepts than American college students at the same level.
Basically, they're taught to the test. I'm not saying our system is any good, but theirs isn't better.

Report: American Schools Trail Behind World In Aptitude Of Child Soldiers
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/report_american_schools_trail

>>2623564
Ive experienced both Asian and North American high school, but only NA university, and I have to say no.

Students in NA memorize just as much as students in Asia. They just memorize stupider stuff, and cant even memorize stupid stuff at that. Sorry, you guys are just stupider :(

>>2623564
Not familiar with the american school system but using the literacy rate as a comparison value I'd say it's on par.

Japan is more interested in having cultured people who will obey while America is more interested in having an elite of thinkers to drive the nation forward.

Both systems have inherent flaws.

>>2623548
I have an idea.

Let's deport all the wetbacks and niggers!

That'll fix everything!

United States has the best universities, but all education prior to that is inferior to other nations. This is common knowledge.

180 days is a pretty wimpy school year.

>>2623611
This entire post is awesome.

step 1: get a math focused engineer career

step 2: take adventage of you now rare career becaues everyone else was too much of a lazy faggot to take it and took easier ones like accounting and administration.

step 3: win at life.

>>2623631
South americans actually don't lower the average. Most of them have at least average intelligence. Wether it is wasted or not, that's another thing altogether.

>>2623645
>Best universities
Europe would like to have a word with you, kiddo.

Asians are expert test takers.

>>2623652
http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/ARWU2008_A(EN).htm

Of course americans are behind in education.
Have you seen how many fucking rednecks we've had for a president?
Have you seen our shitty cars?
Do you have any idea how many dumbshits I've seen all the way up to middle school that could barely read three letter words?

>>2623631
>>2623649
South American immigrant here.

Critical Reading 740
Math 610
Writing 710
Suck on it, redneck.

>>2623685
You're the exception to the rule.

I find it funny that people think Chinese/Northeast Asians are uncreative. China has the majority of the inventions of the world to it's name prior to the early 19th century.

What makes you think this isn't a bump in the road?

>>2623699
The current groupthink totalitarian regime, maybe?

>>2623652

Oxford and the Sorbonne aside, they really don't have much to offer.

>>2623705
Don't give a lecture on freedumbs and democracy. Your freedumbs are what allow American negroes to rape and murder with impunity, using their race as a defensive shield.

>>2623699
>COREA has the majority of the inventions of the world to it's name prior to the early 19th century.
kek

>>2623645
>>2623679
University rankings are highly subjective. Measuring number of papers published and how many CEO's they produce and all that rubbish means jack shit.

>>2623716
>freedumbs
Well, sir, you've certainly amazed me with your wit.

US engineering student here. Even some of the engineering students here are stupid as hell.

But we westerners don't need brute-force schooling. We're clever enough to build our empires on the backs of the browner people of the Earth.

>>2623645
Adding more time wouldn't really change much, since people are spending most of that time inefficiently. For example, I just did a math exam that was supposed to represent 140 hours of classes, and I spent one evening and one morning studying for (around a total of 8 hours), and did much better than I usually do in exams after having taken classes for half a year.

Former teacher in the American school system.
The leave no kid behind policy kind of holds us back sometimes. We can't exactly say "fuck it" about the kids who don't want to learn, we aren't allowed to. We don't have the facilities in most schools to just kick them into a different class room so they can learn at a different pace with other kids either. So we are forced to teach the WHOLE FUCKING CLASS at this slower fucking pace. At the same time we get kids who think its funny to slow things down too. We aren't allowed to discipline them properly, and god knows their parents won't.

>>2623716

All western justice systems are pure shit. They're a grand exercise in cultural narcissism: the farce of 'rehabilitation' in prisons is a great example of this. Rehabilitation doesn't work, it's never worked in any tangible or fruitful way given the amount of resources put into it, it's only purpose seems to be as a cottage industry for sociologist fucks and psychologists to make money.

Want to know what China does when they found out a group of Nigerians were dealing drugs in some nightclub in Beijing? They went in there with riot police and beat the shit out everyone. That's what should happen to people who have no respect for the state or for laws. You can't control large groups of people by reason and logic, why do you think any functioning state maintains a monopoly on violence? The Pax Romana wasn't maintained by peace and love.

>>2623744
And here lies the downfall of the empire.

>>2623777

Hi athens-chan.

>>2623777
Well, we believe silly things like "killing is wrong" that hold us back.

>>2623777
The Aeneid made me realize that a civilized society can, in fact, be built on violence. It's just that you're fucked when religious people come over and teach about love for all people.

>US students lag Asian students in everything

Including the studying of optical magnification.

that chart looks awfully wrong. i'm not amerikkkan, but this looks so wrong in many ways. for example japan have to be higher than the others and the european countries are mostly also over us...
shit sucks.

>>2623785
Don't turn this into 'America vs. China', it's pitiful. It's pitiful that Americans actually believe that Chinese pose a thread when they could have been constructing 4 carrier groups by now yet instead they choose to stick to a purely defensive military doctrine.

And nobody with any sense truly believes 'killing is wrong'. If you actually believe that some mass murdering fuck deserves to live then you're probably some liberal that only believes in it out of some 'holier than thou' worldview. There are times when killing is justified, when it's necessary. America clearly believes this which is why they use their military to protect and expand their interests across the globe.

Nothing has really changed that much. Idealism is as laughable as it once was, nations act in self interest, just as they always have and just as they always will do. Posturing at moral superiority on the international stage is laughable, everyone is after the same thing, democracy or no.

>>2623793
But the Aeneid is fiction.

>>2623721
korea invented something? maybe kimchi... but nothing else.

>>2623785
Well obviously killing *is* wrong, but people are stupid and believe everything can be solved by words.
Until of course their own beliefs are called into question, then they'll stab you for a simple disagreement.

FYI I was thinking about religion writing this post.

>>2623808
The social wars weren't.

>>2623685
>Any score below 700

LOSER

Teachers should be allowed to hit students again.

Teachers should be allowed to molest students.

That will leave scars a simple beating can't match.

>>2623715

Cambridge, motherfucker.

Athens, when did I mention China? I couldn't care less about China.

Old /n/ needs to come back. Threads like these need a place to be contained.

Alot of money goes into education in Inda and asian countries as those fucking globalist want to produce cheap brain labor work force ... and the people there aren't doing anything else except learning because otherwise they would end up in the streets

>>2623807
hahaha owow so you aren't hiding your true face anymore since I called you a textbook fascist some days ago. And i was right. Keep your fascist ideology to yourself. I really hope the City of London with all the cancerous zionist, aristocrats and technocrats will die. i pity you, being indoctrinated with inhuman bullshit window-dressed as rationality since birth

>>2623987
A textbook 'free thinker' right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOaXZ2bJuR8
i feel that this is appropriate here

Tell me again why people need to know about evolution and the history of Africa in order to do manual labor.

>>2623987
You sad, sad, pitiful pawn of Democracy and Left Wing Lies.

Open your eyes and awaken! You do not have to be a puppet of Democracy or society. You don't have to be a mere sheep.

In a Fascist society, I would not be bored. It would be awesome. I would love every moment of it and I could die proud and happy. It's like everyday would have a purpose and a goal. But if I ever did get bored, I would not be useless. I would merely be inactive. Not everyone in a Fascist Utopia is a worker bee, there are those who get to enjoy their leisure and the fruits of their Fascist Paradise.

In a Fascist World, we would not bleat like you docile lambs. We would sing Viking Warsongs from our Guts and the fire within. We would cry out for magic and power. We would pay tribute to Valkyries and the Power within our Ancestor's hearts. It would be a mighty, thunderous row that would terrify the undermen from leagues afar.

Democracy is for the weak. Free Will is an illusion. Look BEYOND the left wing lies. See the cusp of eternity. The Coal haired Valkyrie with the pale, skin Weiss soll Schneit....

She hold's the Chalice of true liberation from the shackles of Democracy and Liberalism.

I don't believe that free thinkers would agree with you. The zero tolerance policy doesn't work, all it does is creating more violence until the wholes system collapses. The US are fucked in this regard, the war on drugs and the war on terror huge losses and the next thing will be the war on it's own population (hurr durr war on extremism), and then revolution -> game over.
GB is fucked as well, their police state is an attempt for the elite to stay in power. Capitalism only works for like 50 - 60 years then the distribution of wealth ends up unfair and social unrest starts, the power re-acts to that and a restard will be forced. And the power always reacts in the same way, they live in a tottally different world and can't understand how those useless eaters dare to revolt them while.
The elites are almost always the cause for social unrest, they tend to become to greedy and corrupt and the masses delusional.

>>2623987
Athens is from London? I thought he was from, well, Athens.

When I see these kind of threads, I automatically think "athens". And then I automatically think shit, although I might be being redundant.

>>2624032
lol

America pig disgusting.

I don't believe free thinkers would agree with you. The zero tolerance policy doesn't work, all it does is creating more violence until the wholes system collapses under the pressure. The US are fucked in this regard, the war on drugs and the war on terror are huge losses and the next thing will be the war on it's own population (hurr durr war on extremism), and then revolution -> game over.
GB is fucked as well, their police state is an attempt for the elite to stay in power. History shows capitalism only works for like 50 - 60 years then the distribution of wealth ends up unfair, therefore the majority of the population becomes unsustainabble and social unrest starts, the power re-acts to that and a restard will be forced. And the power always reacts in the same way, they live in a different world and can't understand why the useless eaters dare to revolt against them.
The elites are almost always the cause for social unrest, they tend to become to greedy and corrupt and the masses delusional.

>>2624048
I ask you....Are you really so happy with your goddamned Democracy or your fucking Communism?

Don't you ever yearn for more and better? Don't you ever want Fascism?

Hotaru promises good times ahead. Strength and cruelty in battle, Honor and Blood in peace.

>>2624032
You know, my whole life I've been told that fascism is bad, but I've never been told why fascism is bad.

>>2624032
This is what 17 year olds actually believe

>>2624070

Boy you don't know anything.

What Hotaru offers is a new tomorrow....a tomorrow without the Shackles of Democracy or Liberalism. No Communism. A future for the children. So you sit up there in your ivory tower coffeshop talking about tax increases and social programs. I'll be here, in the blood and sand with Hotaru's hand on my shoulder. I ask any out there. Who follows Hotaru and Odin?

>>2624069

I challenge all the bastards to read the book Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard.

It has the answers.

BLOOD TO YOU ALL.. HOTARU IST LEBEN

That's because our public schools are a joke.

>>2624032
I'm not a delusional saying democracy is teh best thing ever created. It might work in an ideal world, but not forever in the real world, the pressure from the outside first and then from the inside becomes too much for any system over a certain period of time.
This is why the insane super elites always dream about their world empire in the believe of shutting down any competion from outside but this won't work as the bible will tell you

>>2624032
Yeah! Norse mythology is awesome!!!

Well if we didn't pass dumbfucks that spells dumb with an 'e', we wouldn't be having this problem would we?

...Life is permanent Warfare. To flirt with peace or pacifism is to flirt with ruin.

...If the Reds don't get you, the rich man will.

...ZOG is not your friend. Remember that dateline episode? With the Rabbi? He seemed like a nice guy didn't he? Well if you were a kid he'd fuck you in your ass wouldn't he? Trust none of them.

...Anyone who claims to be left leaning, a Marxist, a Democrat, or any other Liberal is automatically a liar and a communist.

...Society and Democracy are for the weak.

...The Animals are here for a reason. God loves them. They can nourish us, entertain us, and be excellent companions. Respect them.

...You will live longer on Rice than Chocolate. The Moral? You can miserable forever, but happy only in brief intervals. Know this.

...God is too old and too rich for YOUR bullshit. Square your ass away. He KNOWS what you do in the bathroom. I'm just as guilty, but I ADMIT IT.

...Hotaru ist Leben.

Hotaru is the White Rider

>>2624092
Hotaru Maniac? In my /jp/?

>>2624092
Hotaru sounds a bit like a paranoid nutcase to me.

Even if you are trolling but how come you are labeling your fairy taies as fascism? If you want war then join the army or the foreign legion, maybe then you will understand that war is not heroic and you will end up either as a dead number or you will be forced to live on your own after being injured and nobody will care about.

Fascism is not fun, imagine the possibilty of being observed 24/7, having your neighbours, family, (hurr durr) children spying on you and thugs you want to see in jail running as paramilitary on the streets and picking fights with the citizen out of fun. And if you end up really lucky you might be thrown into the gulags for nothing, maybe because of collective punishment, the area you live in had to be "restructured" or the thugs in your area had to fulfill their quota.

>>2624126
Congratulations. Now you know why fascism is bad.

Not to mention that fascism is like water in a bucket. No matter how clean it is, it will stagnate and smell bad after some time.

>>2624092
You never had a sex doll or an AUG. Fuck off LIAR.

>>2624137
There are no "Mercenary Recruiting stations". Actually, I was never a "mercenary" I was a private contractor.

And to all of you "revolutionaries":
It ain't gonna happen. Because smarter people than you aren't going to let it. The secret is that nobody likes being told what to do, and nobody likes to share.

I can understand this because this is how I am.
That's basic human nature. There is no way to be "enlightened" and overcome this any more than it is possible for a lion to lay down with a lamb and not think about lunch.

I've LIVED the damn socialist great society. I fucking hated it and I was just a kid. I'm extremely right wing conservative mainly becuase I don't like people fucking with my shit. I didn't say compassionate conservative or Bush conservative I said EXTREMELY RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE. That means I'm so fucking conservative that ..like...oh my god I don't even know how to describe it. Basically, just stay the fuck outta the commie bullshit and you'll be ok. It's not going to get you anywhere good so get a fucking haircut, put on something that you DIDN'T buy at hot topic, and grow the fuck up. If you MUST be a fucking hippie communist then do it elsewhere where nobody real has to see it.

jesus christ some people......

Holy shit, Hotarufag is still alive?!

>>2624168
You're so right wing you've fallen off the plane?

Most americans are horrible at math and science. It takes thought, intelligence, and time. Most people cant even pay attention long enough let lone stay awake in regular courses.

Its sad when I took calculus in high school and there are college grads that arent even close to that level.

>>2624188
He's on most of the boards at OPERATORchan.

>>2624168
Seriously why are coming forth with socialism? Did I even mentioned it once? Socialism will corrupt as every system and the dangers are far greater than in a western style "democray".
Btw a new socialist system is planned for us in the western word starting somewhere this century (they call it the century of change or transformation). It will be totalitarian system run under scientifiy methods by technocrats and today power elites. Why? Resource management, population reduction and the transformation into a global continous goverment.
They always loved socialism because they can structure and regulate everything in this system like they want to and now they have the technology to setup such system in a really efficient way

But they don't know what they are doing. should they succeed with setting up their system they will cause the destruction of mankind. Good thing they are not almighty, I read that they planned to setup the NAU for the end of the last century and they failed with their timeplane. So we will see what happens, but in the meantime the EU, GB and USA will have to face hard and undemocratic times.

>>2624244
This all sounds like nonsense, but a science focussed society run by the intellectual elite sounds a pretty sweet deal to me.

>>2624271
So you like being treated like a guinea pig and then thrown away? What I'm talking about is much more sophisticated than in Brave New World. A.Huxley's brother was one of the scientific elite, obviously and eugenic and he worked for the UN anf co-founded the IW. They know what they are doing and it's not nonsense. They see humans as cancer that need to be lead by the superclass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huxley

All these global institutions were setup by the zionist anglo-american elites, their whole puprose was to transform them into global authorities for their long time dream of a world empire run by a hardcore scientific socialist system.
Those people don't fund institutions for fun nor to help the people. They plan to forcefulle transform society or in other terms to play god and bad thing is that they will achieve their dream in this century because the technology is avaible.

>>2624350
Wow. I'm not entirely sure if you really believe this or not.

>>2624244
...and I will call it...RAPTURE..

>>2624363
Then why don't see for yourself than just to ridicule other people?
There are many major works written by them who thought of being part of the world elite.
For instance get those books from the nets, you shoudl easily find a electronic copy
- Tragedy & Hope
- Superclass
- Between two Ages
- Limits to Growth

Read the wiki articles about the backgrounds

btw the Huxley familiy wer just like the Darwins absorbed in incest --> obsessed with creating the uber-human

>Biographers have sometimes noted the occurrence of mental illness in the Huxley family. T.H. Huxley's father became "sunk in worse than childish imbecility of mind",[12] and later died in Barming Asylum; brother George suffered from "extreme mental anxiety" [13] and died in 1863 leaving serious debts. Brother James was at 55 "as near mad as any sane man can be"

>>2624390
Indeed. Game is influenced by this. A work of fiction based on facts just that tpeople are still working on it. The field of genetics achieved to create alien lifeforms ... on earths. Facts.

>>2624413
Darwin...was obsessed with creating super humans? You really are full of rubbish.

In Japan, students get in based on their ability to perform well on multiple choice question exams.

In the US, students get in based on their critical thinking skills and creative and original thinking abilities.

In Sweden, all students get in, tuition paid for by the state.

I agree we're one of the more poorly-educated first world countries.
But you gotta realize our educational statistics took a huge nosedive in the last two decades or so when the mexican infestation stepped up a couple notches.
Those stats are so low mostly because of all the mexiscrub hellions shitting up the schools. The average white kid in a middle-class school gets a decent education.

>>2624490
>average white kid in a middle-class school gets a decent education
>trying to pin shitty education system and poor parenting skills on mexicans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

>>2624453
Dude why would they involve their families in incest? What were the believes of those people? Evolution? Natural selection? What was the field of eugenics for? Now do you see the light?

After the debacle with the Nazis they went underground for a few years but came back with new terms like transhumanism, but they still share the same ideals and they still work in various fields of modern science like biology, genetics .

>>2624498
I'm not saying white people are immune to being stupid or anything. there's plenty of stupid white people out there. you can find plenty of stupid japanese too if you want to walk the streets for 4 hours asking passerbys random questions.
but you've never been to southern california, have you?

The American school system has two purpose and two purposes only. To graduate students so they can get into college and to keep them out of trouble.

Seriously people who gives a flying fuck what our highschools are like or how our 8th graders test compared to other nations. We lower our standards specifically so that more students qualify for college.

We have the greatest university system in the world. This point cannot be argued against.

See
>>2623645
>>2623679

>>2624481
>US
>critical thinking skills and creative and original thinking abilities.

2/10

>>2624513
I live in LA.

>>2624517
Butthurt eurofaggot because none of their schools rank top 10.

>>2624505
They didn't involve their families in incest. If you knew anything about genetics you'd know mental disorders can run in families without incest going on. Believing in evolution doesn't automatically make you in favour of eugenics.
As a science student that studies genetics I can honestly say this is a load of crap. Of course, you only read the propaganda and probably don't even understand how genetic manipulation and evolution really work, and how impossible it would really be to perform today.

On the bright side, at least our English scores are better than Asia's.

Our litteracy rates are probably lower though.

I blame the teacher's union for this state of affairs. Yet at the same time being a teacher seems like it would be a decent gig since you can be absolutely horrible and get awesome benefits and be nearly impossible to fire; all thanks to the union. I feel very torn.

>>2624514
So, American university system (and high school) is like the opposite of the Koreans?

I like the Korean system more.

>fourth grade
I'm not in fourth grade.

americans are shitty parents. nobody puts any money into our educational system. a large portion of kids in our public schools are poor and so are the schools.
of course we are outperformed those nations.

>>2624481
FUCK! ERUSEA IS ON A RAMPAGE

TIME FOR ISAF TO FIGHT BACK

>>2624529
hahaha owow
You just can't face the facts that those guys involved themselves with eugenic, believe(d) in a very fascist ideology and still try to evolve humankind. Brave New Wolrd says it all. Period. Written by a member of the elites, member of a very elite familiy from Britain. Transhumanism is real. Most of them but not all don't tend anymore to rascism but to a social class system based on genetics. Period. You can read dozens of works of modern technocratz where they state on record that lower class people, criminals of all kind have bad genes. They really believe this. It's a fact. They argue everything with rationality. For example, why should working class people have an [insert latest most popular intelligence measurement method] that isn't neccesary for the work they do? It's sp not efficient and all they do is making noise and you have to tell manage them through propaganda. So why not kill of their self-conscience? They are studying on three major methods: sophisticated mind-control, machine-brain technology and genetics like transhumanism.
The first one works even today but it's not an efficient method, the last ones are the methods of choice but not quite there but they are spending alot of money on this research. Anyway they first have to setup their system anyway, and remind yourself about population control and sustainabilty. Facts.


Huxlex were interbreeded with other elite families as a test for creating a superior human. Fact.

>>2624545
too much "LOL FREEDOM DO WHAT YOU LIKE KID"

>>2624571
Protip, saying "fact" after something that isn't a fact doesn't make it more likely to be true.
If you seriously believe that we have the knowledge and technology to create transhumans today you are an incredibly delusional individual. Fact.

It would be nice if the US were able to get faster connection speeds.

>>2624588
I haven't said that. I said the technology is avaible for setting up their global socialst system because modern computer systems can handle the load, same thing with surveillance and tracking technology. It will be implemented gradually. Then population control through funded sterilization programms for the poor (money and food for operation) and criminals, then one-child-policy and after this selected reproduction programs for wealthy people. Technology and research will be funded with big money until the methods for recreation of humans in the lab works the way the want. Period. Just read the documents.

>>2624663
Documents are propaganda by someone who wants to sell books and make money. I have neither the time nor the inclination to read over every conspiracy theory I come across.

>>2623685
Asian here, your math score is deplorable.

hohoho ... weak. You can read it in their own documents like from the UN (Agenda 21) and the Club of Rome, well known elite funded think-tank
Just keep your ears and eyes open and you will come across it even on mass media, though they will spin it in a way normal people won't get offended.
I know their ideology and believe me, if they had their power secured, which means a non democratic system, they will implement their population control programs faster than you can spell eugenics.Why do you think abortion has this strong support by the US goverment?

Anyway, in a nutshell those nuts are trying to make EVA reality. Anno knows what is going on :3

>>2624617
I agree. Japan gets 30x my download speed for the same price every month, and they also 300x my upload speed!

Its like I am really back in old /n/.

sage for /n/ shit

At least you fags should acknowledge that the US are done for. What will await you is martial law, collapse of the dollar and revolts. Don't believe me? Well you will see it with your own eyes

Go back to /n/, niggers.

Oh, wait, you can't! For good reason, too.

>>2625176

You know what happens when you demolish an abandoned building full or rats? They flee to all of the buildings surrounding it.

/n/iggers don't belong on /jp/. Reported.

ohohoho butthurts