/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>25749998
Gonna need more detail than that.

Next time wait until the old thread reaches page 10 or 11 to make a new one please

kuso thread all around

>>25749884
what the fuck did i just watch

Woah, Len sounds incredibly good here. I hope they improved the others similarly too. Though I don't know if it's the actual NT banks they're testing in Project Sekai, because in that case it'd be pretty ridiculous to already have the others sounding better than Miku.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcL9WZKonVw

New R Sound Design
https://youtu.be/wAA2A_Vr2u0
>>25759668
Was about to post this. I thought that was one of his vocaloid banks. I wish they'd release a solo Len version since he sounds great there. His low range is underused (like every male loid, it seems).
I really hope the addition of 3dpd to project sekai is worth it. If it's all for nothing, I'll just get sad that we could've had great official synth-only covers.

>>25749884
next time you make a thread at least link the previous thread in the OP, or better yet don't make a new thread without lurking for another few years
Previous thread: >>25626561

>>25749884
dumb hat(s)

>>25751538
>>25752955
>>25766439
Una posters are the dumbest fucks these threads have to deal with. Right up there with the off topic /pol/ spammers.

Hello everyone

>>25766684
Hi

>>25766473
>off topic /pol/ spammers.
That's CFM's fault

>>25766893
No that's the off topic shitposters fault since they can't let it go or fuck off.

I want to eat Miku

>>25766912
>being a cuck

Kiritan!
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37392120

Very slow today

>>25749884
Miku BR > Una BR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRSMUtQHPek
it's a song about being a slut.

>>25759668
Len always sounds great

But yeah, this little snippet is pretty nice. If that's his NT voice I wouldn't be disappointed, it sounds just like the usual lower-pitch Len tuning from Nem, Hitoshizuku, etc, so that's nice.

>>25769805
If the Kagamines just get some light improvements like how their Appends -> V4x was, that would be great. It doesn't sound too different from the usual Len but I'll be waiting for a solo song to hear him more clearly and judge it

Why does una sound older than rin

>>25770105
Because she's shit.

Hope every anon has a good day

>>25766912
stay mad nigger

>>25770382
Fuck you!

>>25772394
be happy or die

Is Gakupo autistic?

>>25772942
How did Miku get away with this

>>25776541
Why wont you be happy, anon? Huh?

realistically, where is the AI technology at right now that will let me talk to miku? how long do i have to wait bros

>>25772942
miku what the fuck are you on about...

>>25772942
How could I not be happy if I have Miku in my life.

>>25777309
You can talk even now if you use AI Dungeon or Replika, but the results will not be as great as you want probably.
Otherwise 20 years from now, as always. Just learn to talk with her in your head.

>>25777469
>Just learn to talk with her in your head.
what did you mean by this?

>>25772942
Miku Is the face of evil.

>>25777520
Just talk to her in your head and imagine how she would respond. As weird as it might sound, it's quite common for people who have waifu. If you send quite some time fantasizing about them, you also imagine how your conversations would go. If one can do so in imaginary world, why not daydream about it irl?
Or from other side. If you have a daki, you might be tempted to whisper her goodnight, sweet nothings, etc as you get all comfy and all. And then you might imagine how she would respond to it, and before you realize you'll be having small conversations with her before sleep.
It takes a bit of practice to do without significant conscious effort and it's not a tulpa because she doesn't just act on her own. This just comes naturally to people who have waifu.

>>25777666
scary digits

>>25777747
this won't make me schizophrenic right?

>>25777862
No, of course not. Does writing a book or screenplay mkaes you schizophrenic? Just imagine the dialogue on the fly, there is no harm in that. At worst it's called maladative daydreaming if you do it excessively as form of escapism. The difference between just daydreaming and tulpafaggotry is that you are not spending hundreds of hours teaching your brain to hallucinate your waifu and making her independent so lives in your head no matter if you think about her or not.
You have never fantasized about some girl? It doesn't really make that much difference if you imagine confessing your love to your Miku in some imaginary world, or if you do it while cuddling a daki in real world, imagining it's really her next to you. Just try to immerse yourself in your imagination.

>>25777862
Apparently, being too absorbed in your fantasies is a sign of schizophrenia

>>25767176
What about being eaten by her?
https://youtu.be/i5nYkP-4FBA

>>25779465
symptom =/= cause
You are not going to get a flu by blowing your nose often.

>>25779625
Well, a lot of different factors can contribute to a mental illness, right?

>>25779812
Damn, Len is buff af

>>25779800
Yes, but having vivid imagination and using it is not known to cause schizophrenia.
Come on...

>>25779465
Apparently, frog posting is a sign of brain damage.

>>25777747
>and it's not a tulpa
you sound like those trannies trying to pinkpill people telling them to crossdress for fun to try to get them to fall into the rabbithole

>>25780542
That won't turn you into a cross dresser unless you actually like crossdressing, same thing

>>25780613
>tastes cannot be acquired

>>25780542
If that's the same guy that have been bringing waifu topic in recent threads, he already seems to be getting serious about her. Nothing bad will happen if he experience some waifu love. When someone acts like this and really desire to interact with her, holding back is only going to bring discomfort.
It's not like I encourage him to mutilate his body anyway.

new ARIA STATION episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqPkhBJ-4o

>>25777747
>Just talk to her in your head and imagine how she would respond. As weird as it might sound, it's quite common for people who have waifu.
Oh good I thought I was the only one. Now I gotta ask her why she's been talking to other men but eh.

>>25781220
damn, why doesnt cuckton do stuff like that with Miku:(

>>25781935
>being a cuck even i your imagination

>>25781935
Anon, that's not how it works. Let the OOP Miku explain it all.


On a serious note, if you ask around in some waifu threads you'll realize pretty much everyone does that. Even though it's not something discussed there, it seems like it just comes naturally. Not that long ago someone found out my online shrine and approached me because he believed he is in love with Miku and wanted to know if I can relate. After short conversation he admitted he does talk with her and do other things specific to waifu culture even though he never heard of it. I found that quite interesting.

>>25782326
>After short conversation he admitted he does talk with her and do other things specific to waifu culture even though he never heard of it. I found that quite interesting.
It is called convergence. When multiple independent paths lead to the same outcome.

It has happened in biological evolution a lot of times too.

>>25779517
why

>>25781968
Giving her a talk-bank that doesn't sound like her?

Rana has such a cute and unique voice, I love it
https://youtu.be/krPjF1I2nJQ

>>25782736
They somehow made her speak on her concerts tho

>>25782784
Yes, with the singing engine, most likely.

>>25782784
It's not impossible, I think.
It just requires a lot of work.

>>25782968
Been done 10 years ago
https://youtu.be/G9AbK2JOr1w?t=267

>>25783103
It doesn't mean that it didn't take a lot of effort to create the talking tracks in the vocaloid editor. Which is probably why nowadays Crypton just uses their in-house voice conversion software (cherry pie) and real VAs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYva672FBw

>>25783526
Just saying if they wanted to make more of this stuff or if they wanted to make "ARIA Station" kind of stuff they could have done it easily.

>>25777666
>That post
>666

>>25783779
lol indeed

>>25781935
Even your waifu cucks you

>>25783655
Sure, but I'd rather Crypton don't put words on Miku's mouth so casually. For games we can consider them for example "project diva canon", but Crypton's miku is much more troublesome. Even a few sentences on the concert saying thanks like the 10th anniversary hajimete no oto probably had more effect on Miku's "canon" than hundreds of songs.

>>25783970
What bad things did crypton make mikus say?

Just have miku say a short message from the artist to replicate how singers entertain the crowd with short stories or jokes in between songs.

>>25784048
If they make Miku too much of a good girl in the canon it kills my bad girl Miku version.

>>25783970
>Sure, but I'd rather Crypton don't put words on Miku's mouth so casually
That's your opinion, and I respect that. However, if they managed to make a decent talk-bank of her and release it, people could have done great things with it. MMDAgent is opensource, runs on normal PCs and smartphones so people could have made their own "Gateboxes".(without the fancy 3D tube thing)

>>25784048
that she supports blm

>>25784120
To me Miku is a bit of a bad little bitch too but did she really say anything that makes her look like a good girl? I think it was just generic stuff like "guys than you guys for letting me sing guys I love you guys"

>>25784245
Lie, Itoh never implied Miku said anything, and chill out already, even I didn't get so fixated on that

>>25784227
Miku is about singing, not talking. Sure, making a talkloid or releasing cherry pie could spawn tons of miku vtubbers and make waifufags life easier but that effort is better spent improving the singing engine/voicebanks.

And what you said could have been done already since if you're putting the effort you can make vocaloid talk.

>>25784371
Crypton doesn't work that much on improving voicebanks anyway, does it? They just release a voicebank they made and that's it

For me, Miku will always be the sweetest, cutest, shy and timid girl.

>>25777666
kowaii!

>>25784371
>And what you said could have been done already since if you're putting the effort you can make vocaloid talk.
Do you not realize the difference between a TTS VB and making speech by hand in a singing synthesizer? Both are "possible" but only one is "viable" if you're trying to make an interact-able waifu. The speech tech is there already and "user" time should be spent on "programming her" instead.

>>25784319
I was talking in the hypothetical scenario that Crypton has her talk in events events, radio, presentation giving too much traits to her. In that concert she either really care about the fans/her career or those are crocodile tears, so it does have a restricting effect on her canon, and the more they add to her the less is left for the imagination.

>>25784441
They've been half a decade working on the piapro editor and at least 2 years on the NT engine, plus other music software in the sonicwire umbrella. And when they finish one voicebank they already have to start planning for the next (if they didn't already start). And at least now they'll have to keep supporting each voicebank with updates.

>>25784356
>even I
youre a cuck

>>25782058
>>25783859
That's what I get for marrying Yukari.

>>25784577
Well, I know that it might be not a really good thing, but I low-key want Miku to be given a bit more personality, see her behavor as a person, since it really helps the waifufaggotry.

>>25783859
Take your meds Miku!

>>25784541
Gatebox had limited tracks though, which was your example and it's perfectly possible simply exporting the tracks. Sure you won't be able to have Miku reading something for you or repeating what you said (to artificially increase the amount of sentences she can say), but with current tech the best you can do is choose from a list of possible answers and paraphrase stuff (if you want to make her a SIRI clone). And I doubt a TTS Miku would change that.

>>25784709
>but I low-key want Miku to be given a bit more personality, see her behavor as a person, since it really helps the waifufaggotry.
No it doesn't. I have my well define interpretation of her and I'd hate if Crypton disturbed it. I love my Miku that means a lot to me, I can't just change it to whatever they might come up with. God forbid they make her into some sort of tsundere.
As previous anon said, some small talks on concert or band introduction are fine. But they should stay away from putting her into some dramas, radios, interviews, etc.

>>25784763
>but with current tech the best you can do is choose from a list of possible answers
Up until now, perhaps. However, I'm sure you're aware of all the experimental AI chatbots appearing all over the internet, and with hardware getting better and better at accelerating it, it won't take long until you can do it on your desktop PC or a server in your garage. Anyway, people could use it in creative ways if given the chance, just like they did with Vocaloid. I'd also argue that being able to paraphrase stuff is not a small difference but it's not really the point.

>>25784847
She was in shinkalion

>>25785053
She doesn't even have the same name.

>>25785047
Well, I don't think GPT-3 level stuff will change that much, but I guess somewhere in the future there could be, and by that time you either have a TTS Miku to make use of it or you don't, and I'd rather have it. Maybe Crypton can do it after they finished all NT voicebanks (since they'll probably not do an NT 2, and talking voicebanks are simpler than singing ones).

Even if it doesn't improve much, It'd be at least nice to have Miku read a book to me while I sleep.

>>25782326
>treating your waifu as an object
then you wonder why women dont like you

>>25784847
Well, you can be like "oh Miku turns out to be a bit different than I thought she was". Anyway, if they do revel her personality, I think it will be as subtle as possible I think

>>25784665
Alright, if you are seething over cucks and wanna fight them so much, contact me on Twatter, I have some ideas. If you agree, Ill drop my nametag here.

>>25785499
Nah, that wouldn't work. It would be just incompatible with all the headcanon I gained after all these years. This dissonance would kill me. Just don't.

>>25785124
>TTS Miku
Does voice synth software like Vocaloid/Voiceroid need time to render the voice or is it fast enough that you could use it as, say, a GPS voice?

>>25785671
They are both fast enough for generating sentences at a time with a good computer, the problem the other anon is talking about is the input. TTS only needs text as input, while Vocaloid needs both the text and the sheet music which is harder to generate and has less data for training your AI and for Vocaloid it's also closed (I think). Plus you'd need some way to automatically import in Vocaloid, run it and export it since it's not made for automatic generation.

How many more posts are people going to make about Crypton's BLM support

doesn't miku talk at concerts and stuff

>>25785535
I dont use twatter, faggot

>>25785872
We'll keep going until Miku officially endorses the KKK, so pretty much forever

>>25785671
People do use certain software to interpret their own speech and run it through Voiceroid for video commentary or livestreams, so it should be fast enough.

>>25786001
too hard to create an account or something?

>>25786146
>implying twatter is harder to use than 4chan
anyway, why would I want an account in the most cancerous shithole of the internet?

>>25786208
To contact me and for more interesting things if you agree to team up

>>25786261
just post your shit and go damn nigga

>>25784709
She already got the personality of a brick in that one PD game so just use that if you are so desperate.

>>25786376
hentailord1488

>>25784577
>feeding your cat with citrus fruit
Miku, why

>>25785872
2-3 more months and then again in 4 years.

>>25786489
lmao, pls be ironic

Someone is here

>>25787403
Rin is here

>>25787418
Who is the biggest slut, Rin or Len?

>>25787418
Did she break in? Better should have closed the window.

>>25784245
but anon, that's a good thing! why must you make Miku political?

>>25787474
>supporting looting is a good thing

>>25785499
>She is a bit different that I were expecting
That is the reason I don't idealise her so much, high expectations can won't let you accept her totally

>>25787431
It's hard to be as slutty as Len

>>25787566
>"not all cops are bad, it's just some bad apples and we gotta support them regardless"
>"all of the protesters are looters though, supporting the cause means supporting looting as well"
Yeah I know you type, go back to /pol/ where you belong

>>25787418
Kill it

>>25787712
>"all of the protesters are looters though, supporting the cause means supporting looting as well"
oh, youre right, the white protesters werent looting, it was only the black ones

>>25787566
You are on /jp/ not /pol/ you fucking bellend.

>>25772942
what is this from, senbonzakura?

>>25787881
Happiness and peace of mind committee

>>25787837
>youre not allowed to notice patterns outside of /pol/

So... who else is baking a cake for Miku on monday?

>>25788019
>she's gonna turn 13
so, she's entering puberty?

>>25787941
>notice patterns
i am begging you interact with people outisde the internet

>>25788079
Im begging you to interact with people outside of your gated community.

Every time someone has tried to rob me they had an excess of melanin.

Good job proving this post >>25766912 right.

>>25787881
The trannies deleted it, but the answer was Happiness and peace of mind committee.

>>25788370
cuck

>>25788019
I'll try

>>25788019
I will do my beest.

Dr. Funk Beat >> Snowman > Attakaito
But all are good.

>>25785981
I believe those segments are made by hand in the Vocaloid editor, where the timing and pitch are edited by hand. It's a lot of effort and skill for little payoff.

>>25789134
It has a good payoff in concerts since she always sound like the Miku we know (unlike some singing x talking voicebanks) and Miku trying hard to talk is always cute (especially in other languages).

>>25789091
Snowman sounds better with Len

>>25786208
you are already posting in the most cancerous shithole on the internet though

>>25784120
miku being a good girl publicly and a smug bad girl outside still works though

>>25785872
its literally the same 1 or 2 brainwashed retards letting that shit live rent free in their dumb heads every threat

>>25790887
twatter is worse

>>25787881
https://youtu.be/Gu_rc4fUIVg

>>25790924
just report and ignore them
also, what's a song you really, really want to hear live but will probably never be played live? I love this song but I just know it's never happening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW3hnAvYiJw

>>25759668
Now that's a good sounding Len. Any producers that sound similar?

>>25766473
>>25770116
Imagine how much of a faggot you have to be to not like the Savior of Vocaloid™.

>>25791463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSpdipuiFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EXGjYk_xXk

The fact that Ke-san is part of the band Penguin Research, and the fact that it's duet between Gumi and Rin (Internet Co. vs. Crypton) is pretty much a double death-sentence for both of these songs. Darn shame though, since these songs have lots of energy and I really like them I'd have loved to see them live (and have none of the singers replaced).

Songs involving Gumi and other Vocaloids in general as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSCoC5ciQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPgS1QiSeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaiU_sSifGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvAVumW0SWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGAZBIeFeJw

>>25787881
Kek!
Funniest post I've read all year
>tfw these are the people you post with on /jp/

why is Len so cute?

>>25792659
That Len isn't cute tho. Shit art style

>>25792693

>>25783526
You mean to tell me when Miku talks to the audience at concerts it's just Saki Fujita passed through a filter?

>>25783970
Miku talks at concerts all the time like I remember at some old event in Indonesia she spoke in Indonesian before performing some local song.

>>25792800
That software seems really recent, so no. The main crypton engineer mentions how they are still working on tuning meiko and kaito close to the release of project sekai next month. So:
Vocaloid (probably):
https://youtu.be/BjTKUWNM5RQ?t=340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSf2Lm8Jcy4
Cherry Pie (probably):
https://youtu.be/KduRhYFgH2g?t=798

>>25792997
They both sound good enough so I guess it's all right.

>>25792722
Stop giving Len girls clothing. He's a boy.

>>25792226
The first two have played at Cho Party if you're interested.
https://youtu.be/IZk-pnySqXs?t=585 Invisible
https://youtu.be/Jxai4UnCp6s?t=1054 Reincarnation
In fact, I think all of kemu's uploaded songs have played at Cho Parties.

>>25769407
>dat video
OH MY GOD! That's gotta be a mod right? No way lingerie like that exists in Project Diva right?

>>25793405
he keeps stealing rins clothes

>>25793592
It's a mod, and the link was in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjjGIyuVT8

>>25791463
Karappo no Manimani, Strobe Light, Stratterium, Underdog (Rin/Len).
As >>25792226 said, all the top tier Gumi originals, especially Fragile. and you might as well add the IA/flower originals to that list too.
>>25793519
The cho parties are so underrated. I love how they go all-out on the special effects.

>>25793519
Ayy! Thanks for this!

>>25793601
They look better on him tho

>>25787431
Yuzuki "Cummie in my Tummy" Yukari.

>>25795233

Whats the absolute longest you've seen seen Mikus hair go? Proportional to her body, I should say.
Also the most hair volume

child bearing hips

>>25795487
Deserving of a nice SLAP!

>>25796052
How much cummie does Yukari want in her tummy? LOTS!

>>25772942
I love vocaloid horror songs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcayCUK62fc

>>25791463
Anything by Kikuo.

>>25796041

>>25799126
wat

>>25799126
space elevator mike

I want Miku to take me out of the gravity.

>>25792659
Because you gay LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhnmnpDQ9X8
Holy shit

>>25800526
hopefully it's better than the mitchie m collab.

>>25800526
Why do I get the feeling that after his falling out with REOL Giga is trying to flex with new collaborations? Mitchie is the top Vocaloid producer and KIRA is the top Western one at the moment.
>GETCHA! ft. Miku&GUMI
>Miku&GUMI
Bound to be good. Miku and GUMI is a vocal match made in heaven.
>Watch out for the full version coming on September 4th...!
So far away? Darn. Not even on the 31st...

>>25799737
Who doesn't?

Do we like 2019 mirai Miku

>>25791514
As >>25769805 mentioned, Nem and Hitoshizuku use lower pitched Len a lot, and rerulili a little bit as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIEKC4oTNwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QklqlhUVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF3cAo2vNeY

Then there's like, covers and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmolY5mlx1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xwoZpwOFmY

>>25800526
I know people like to shit on Kira but his songs aren't bad (if a bit generic) and have good production. Giga-P has a more similar style so it should go better than the Mitchie M collab hopefully.

Also, new Kagamine songs from Giga-P when?

>>25800526
Really surprising to see the east and west collab. Interested to see the results. Kinda feel like it'll work better than the Mitchie M collab since their styles are similar.
>>25801023
Now that you say it, that's probably what's happening with Giga. Also they're probably not dropping it on the 31st on purpose, since so much other stuff is going on that day.
>>25804021
It's okay, I guess, but her face could be improved.

>>25804021
Meh, the face is kinda ass, Sega Mike is much better

>>25804021
step in the right direction because sega miku is outdated and needs to go, looks great in person but they can improve the face some more

>>25805130
The new one looks generic and soulless tho

>>25804021
The art direction is horrible, way too realistic and mature.
>>25805130
How is it outdated when no live model looks better than it yet?

>>25793405
No.

What happened to yande.re? I used it for my new loid pics but it's down on my end

>>25804021
no, we do not

Are you playing miku's new mobile game?

>>25809374
>mobile anything
"No".

>>25809405
>he is into nip culture but doesn't like the nips' new favorite gaming platform

>>25809374
I'm just waiting for Project Sekai

>>25805576
both meaningless buzzwords
>>25806031
theres so many random mmd models that look better than it design wise, the same barely retouched weirdly proportioned models we've had since some intern made them for project diva on psp have to go, they just don't look good anymore and miku deserves better

>>25809423
liking cute anime girls doesnt mean you have to buy into their terrible exploitative business practice designed to milk tired ass overworked japanese people out of their money

>>25804021
it is shit
>>25809600
>theres so many random mmd models that look better than it design wise
post examples and we will shit on them

>>25809423
doesn't matter, a bad game is a bad game even if i like the characters that are unfortunately stuck in it

>>25809637
yyb, rem, crime, sour, muubu, and the one that made that breath you model i forget the name of. literally all of them look better than those tired ass models we've been seeing recycled for years

>>25809620
>buy into their terrible exploitative business practice designed to milk tired ass overworked japanese people out of their money
Are we still talking about mobile games, or just literally any form of entertainment?

>>25809423
I think people's obsession with mobage is easily one of the biggest downfalls of the entire industry.
The amount of work and developers needed vs the profits is skewed to the point where making proper video games is becoming almost not worth it.

>>25809423
wait, nips actually *like* those fucking mobile games?
it's not like crypton is licensing them over any normal game offers because there probably are none, but they still suck and are not worth paying for.

>>25810738
>>25810852
If you think they suck then don't play them. If they make profits that means other people want to play them after all, doesn't it?

>>25811051
>If you think they suck then don't play them.
i don't. but thanks for your input i guess bro.

>>25810507
were talking about gacha shit

selling games normally is ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCAum-O0WWE

>>25811051
>what is addiction exploitation
>why are drugs illegal
>why is gambling illegal/regulated

>>25809791
>generic anime models
ah yes

>>25811294
generic how exactly?

>>25801023
Why did he fall out with Reol?

>>25811569
They just stopped colaborating or something. Didn't REOL disband anyway?

>>25811196
Several legal drugs are still highly addictive and you can buy them whenever you want, including alcohol. You sound like one of those guys that complains about "muh nanny state" and then asks them to ban shit like mobile games because you don't like them

>>25809791
>Yyb
Only their brand new one (which hasnt been published yet as it looks like) can compare to SEGA, the original one looks kinda dead and soulless, same with their second one, except a bit better.
>rem
Looks like an ugly tranny, 10th ani version is acceptable tho
>Fat ugly cunt overused in hentai, doesnt even look like Miku
>sour miku
Too melancholic and dead-looking, also the face is too cartoonish
>Muubu
Too nya-kawaii-sugoi-desu
Conclusion: SEGA Miku is glorious and timeless

>>25811879
>lets allow corporations to exploit children
legal drugs are still not allowed to be sold to minors and they cannot gamble

its just a matter of time until the same is applied to microtransactions

>>25812115
Yeah, SEGA Miku is good for official concerts because she doesn't have an obvious character. It's good ol' ambiguous KEI-style Miku. All MMD models not based off of KEI have too strong of a personality.

>>25812250
I wouldn't say that, she is like more lively, her expressions are really felt

>>25811620
Good riddance, honestly. Reol a shit.

>>25812972
True that. I believe it was creative differences or something.

>>25812164
I agree, it's about time the law caught up to these crooks and scumbags addicting children to gambling.

>>25812972
Reol wrote the lyrics to Gigantic OTN, one of the greatest lyrical works of the century, so at least she's done some good

>>25813724
>Greatest lyrical works of the century
Sounds about right

post more len faggots

>>25812972
Hey fuck you.

Drop Pop Candy and Gigantic OTN are both really good songs.

>>25814146
indecent clothing

>>25814556
approved by cyrpton and sega

>>25814556
Imagine approving this attire for a young boy in the games.

>>25814702
there is literally nothing wrong with it

>>25814735
>>25814702
cease with this degeneracy
len is a pure christian boy who loves god and prays everyday for his sister's and vocalofriends well being

>>25814835
>degeneracy
>>>/pol/

>>25814735
A boys hips shouldn't be exposed like that.

>>25814930
shut the fuck up loser
we all say to polfaggots "literally rent free" and yet they live in our heads rent free

I'm the only one allowed to pick on the Lenfags. Fuck off back to your containment board.

>>25817595
Len is just too cute

>>25817740
I rather fuck his sister.

>>25817775
Me too

>>25817775
Both, both is good.

Iyowa is my favorite composer for all music ever now, beating Wagner, Debussy, Stevie Wonder, etc

>>25817740
That can't be Len.

>>25812115
>soulless
>tranny
how do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously when all you can spout are buzzwords.
crime does look like miku, the face is amazing, her hips are wider obviously but miku always had some decent hips. also literally every model is used in hentai even sega miku, the only difference is that crime is actually attractive so she is used more.
>Too nya-kawaii-sugoi-desu
sega miku is ilterally the " am i kawaii uguu" meme, the proportions are trash the stick limbs suck and its only used because its too much work porting the hundreds of modules we have to an actual good model.
Thankfully they know this and are moving forward with the new sega model, also the project sekai model is infinitely better than the sega trash one which is a good sign

>>25811294
>competently made models
ah yes

>>25820946
Soulless is not a buzzword, it describes a model that just doesn't look lively, expresive and attractive. As for tranny, might be a buzzword, but it just describes the looks, its valid.
>Miku has always had some decent hips
Are you serious? She canonnincaly weighs 42 kilos and so every canonical depiction of her (KEI or Ixima for example) has always had extremely skinny, thin beuatiful body lines. Hips might be relatively normally sized (although, they seem to be pretty narrow too), but her thighs and the rest of the body are very skinny. Look at this pic from kei's manga as a reference. Crime Miku's bodytype is nothing like Miku is supposed to be-fat ugly thighs and short legs. And she is used in hentai way too often-I always come to jerk off the Miku's beuaitful cute skinny underweight body with close to nonexistent boobies but I have to jerk off to that hippo. And her face just looks smug, meh
>Sekai Miku is better
Looks very low-effort, even a lot of MMD models you mentioned look better. She doesnt even have pantsu. Heck, it was developed for a mobile game, of course its shit and simple.
>sega miku is ilterally the " am i kawaii uguu" meme
No, thats called beautiful, expressive face. If Miku is sad in the song, she will look sad, if she is horny in the song, she will look horny. Its nearly impossible go make a model as expressive as Sega.
>Stick limbs
This is how a perfect female looks like, chubby chaser. And Miku is canonnincaly like that.
>Thankfully they know this and are moving forward with the new sega model
Even if we do change the model used in concerts, it should be anything but that R3 Miku. It looks hyper-shit, there are so many MMD models which look better.

>>25822340
P.S. by the looks of things, this is the R3 Miku. Still think this MILF Mike should take the place of the gorgeous Sega Miku?

>>25822340
soulless is a buzzword only used by retards,and does not mean anything, the yyb model does all have these things its lively, very expressive (try it in mmd the range of expression is honestly so high quality and huge), and extremely attractive.
Miku always had decent sized hips, she is small but has a feminine curvature, her shoulders to hips ratio has always been weighed towards her hips, even the sega model keeps this ratio, her thighs are also decent and not a fucking skeleton like you seem to believe. The kei manga is a fucking disaster in anatomy and not a good reference to anything, but even in your picture her hips are wide.
Crime has literally the perfect bodytype, which is why its used in porn mmds, its definitely exaggerated a bit but its not that far off, his most recent model also toned down the thighs to the align more with miku.
>Looks very low-effort
it's simple and beautiful, as opposed to the simple and ugly sega models.
>sega model expressive
bro the range of expression of the sega model is a fucking joke, her smile looks retarded and her eye shape is barely modifiable, if you want a big range of expression try the yyb model.
and when i meant stick limbs i meant literal sticks, they dont articulate like a normal human or look like human limbs, plus no, miku isnt canonically an anorexic skeleton

>>25822455
the shader is shit, but yes i'll take that over the alien face we got for now

>>25820946
>>25823080
Did SEGA Miku kill your family or something? You sure are hateful over a 3D model.

>>25823080
>Talks about buzzwords
>Uses the word "retard", one of the most overused buzzwords
Ok lol
>Yyb
What yyb are we talking about? There seem to be like 3 of them, one of which isnt even released yet I think. The first one does look good but her face looks like that of a robot, kinda dead. Never tried mmd, so Ill believe what you say, still nowhere as good-looking as sega to me.
>even the sega model keeps this ratio
Sega models are inconsistent in terms of her hip width, arcade and mega mix models have wider hips than others. Compare the pics of, say, bikini module from different games and youll see the difference.
>her thighs are also decent and not a fucking skeleton like you seem to believe.
Are you a retard? Look at literally any canonical depiction of Miku, her thighs are super-skinny, not dangerous-for-your-health-tier skinny, but still really skinny. It also gives her legs really long appearance, which crime miku doesnt even come close to.
>The kei manga is a fucking disaster in anatomy and not a good reference to anything
Have read only some of the first chapters but havent noticed any bad anatomy.
>Crime has literally the perfect bodytype
Fuck off, chubby chaser, all opinions invalidated
>it's simple and beautiful, as opposed to the simple and ugly sega models.
Yeah, lets compare a model made for consoles and a model made for a mobile game and say that the mobile one looks better lol. Yes, looks good, but not as good and expressive as the sega one to me
>bro the range of expression of the sega model is a fucking joke
Lets assume that what youre saying is true (although I really doubt it). Still, nothing feels like watching an MV with Sega Miku to me. When I say expressive I mean not only the range of expressions, but the appearance too-imo, Sega's Miku's appearance perfectly conveys the feelings of any song
>miku isnt canonically an anorexic skeleton
What you are calling "anorexic sekeleton" is how the perfect female looks like, since you are a chubby chaser. Also, Sega Miku looks exactly like canonical Miku-compare her to Kei or Ixima-exactly the same. And I think she was modelled after Kei's Miku, especially her face. Kei is the creator of Miku's appearance btw. The obly bd thing about Sega Miku is probably her lips-they can look crappy under certain circumstances. Other than that, Sega Miku is the number 1 to me. Yeah, there are other cool models out there, but Sega Miku is eternal. And once again, even if we do change it, it definitely sjouldnt be the r3 miku, at least in her current form.

>>25823387
This. I pretty much agree with motivation of >>25822340, but imo sega just looks really bad for different reasons. Her face is weird, eyes are look inhuman, her hair jut look like a blog. If anything, I'd call this soulless but that's stupid.
YYB and Muubu are great, rem has a bit too much contrast/too shinny, crime is shit, sour is too off from original.
I'd take them all(except crime and sour) over SEGA models.

>>25823387
Thats how Daddy KEI drew her, cope

>>25823930
good thing kei is only one of the many artists they hired and i dont have to give a fuck about him then. Theres a reason they're still using ixima for NT.

>>25823851
The sega model has been getting shit on for being weird since it was created, i was actually one of the most ardent defenders of it because sega did such a good job at hiding its defects with good camera angles and shaders. however seeing all these zoomers having aneuyrisms and talking shit over crypton trying to move on from the same tired old models we've had for so long pisses me off, miku deserves the best there is and times are changing, we can improve these 12 year old outdated things.

I just want to cuddle with Miku and examine all her body and expressions up close.
That will resolve this argument.

>>25824086
>Doesn't even like KEI
lost cause

>>25823901
>her face looks weird
Yeah, Id agree that it can look weird in some games, but as I said, its because of her weird lips. It looks like with the wrong textures or shaders those weird lips can become very noticeable, which happens in some project diva games. But, look at project diva x or mega mix Miku, for example-looks pretty good to me. In MVs her lips arent all that noticeable too. And lets be honest, Sega Miku is the closest to KEI's Miku, and KEI not only is the creator of Miku, but draws her very beuatifully
>eyes are look inhuman
She is anime girl lol
Anyway, overall Id say Sega Miku is not flawless and her appearance really depends on the angles and shaders, but when the circumstances are right, she looks the best. And on concersts she looks otherworldly.

>>25824125
>however seeing all these zoomers having aneuyrisms and talking shit over crypton trying to move on
If they introduce an actually good-looking model I'll be fine with Crypton moving on from SEGA Miku. People are shitting on their current attempt because the new model is garbage. It sucks that they ruined a bunch of performances with it.

>>25823884
retard isnt a buzzword, it's an insult. Keep up retard.
for YYB i'm talking about the one with the dress which is the one ive used, the range of expressions is very deep and the way the shape of the jaw and mouth changes with the mouth is honestly impressive.
>Look at literally any canonical depiction of Miku, her thighs are super-skinny, not dangerous-for-your-health-tier skinny, but still really skinny. It also gives her legs really long appearance, which crime miku doesnt even come close to.
First let me preface this by saying that arguing about a "canon" for miku is absolutely retarded and goes against everything that makes miku good, but still lets look
>magical mirai 2016/2018/2019/2020
all have wide hips and decent thighs, and a skinny upper body
>ixima
skinny upper body, decent hips and thighs
>pretty much every single official miku figure released
skinny upper body, decent hips and thighs.
the skeleton miku meme has to end and hasnt been a thing for years, theres a reason they used an altered crime miku for an OFFICIAL miku ad, because it looks good and close enough.
>lets compare a model made for consoles and a model made for a mobile game and say that the mobile one looks better lol
yes thats really embarassing for the console model.

and no, wanting to look at something that isnt a literal skeleton doesnt make you a chubby chaser it makes you nomal, however i respect your taste, but theres a reason only keis miku is like that and everyone else draws her as a healthy small but feminine girl.

>>25824086
KEI is the father of Miku you bloody baboon, and his Miku arts are on the absolute next level compared to anyone else's

>>25824210
no, zoomers shit on the new model because the shitty sega model is the only thing theyve ever known even though it has always had huge issues, the r3 one is an improvement and looks amazing in motion ( saw it about 5 times live), but they can still do more.
>>25824250
>>25824153

Kei was a good designer but not a good artist (this has changed recently though i'm very impressed by some of his newer pieces), theres a reason they switched to ixma, him being the original artist is irrelevant when there are thousands of official miku artists nowadays, sticking miku to one canon is and will always be retarded

>>25824219
>>25824278
Canon is essential, without it Miku's identity would be nonexistent. Also, canon Miku best Miku.
Now, lets compare Miku's lower body.
Here is Ixima and Sega Miku

>>25824412
And here is KEI and Sega Miku. There is no difference. Also, if this is not "skeleton", then what is? A 25 kilo girl dying from anorexia?

>>25824412
canon is stupid, the whole point of miku is expression of the artist and that she means something different for every single person, there are 1000s of official miku artists, kei is only one of them, and isnt even doing the covers anymore so hes not even the current "canon".

>>25824412
>>25824449
i dont know where you got these jpegs from but they're proving my point, she has decent hips and thighs, if you look at the official ixma miku you see that her hips are wider than her shoulders, and her thighs are more than half her torso, the most recent crime miku model has pretty much the same ratio

>>25824449
Also, MM Mikus (aside from the 2016) had more or less identical thighs, doesnt differ that much from ixima and kei (which have the same bodytype). The 2016 one didnt even try to be canon, it was more like loli-chibi type of shit

>>25824537
2019 has thighs that are pretty much on the level of crime miku, all the magical mirai mikus have nice hips

>VOCALOID general : Miku's thighs in depth discussion thread

>>25824278
>no, zoomers shit on the new model because the shitty sega model is the only thing theyve ever known
As opposed to what, the arcade models they used back in MikuPa, which SEGA Miku is an obvious improvement over? Your reason literally makes no sense, there wasn't any old awesome model that SEGA Miku replaced, the arcade model and the SEGA Miku model are the only live models anyone has ever known, not just zoomers.
I understand wanting to improve on the model we have but admit that Crypton's current attempt to do it is shit and they're obviously going in a wrong direction with the new model. THAT's why we're complaining, not some made up zoomer narrative of yours.

>>25824519
>decent thighs and hips
Once again, If this is not zkinny as I said, then what is? And yeah, her hips are wider than shoulders, have always been like that, thats normal for girls, but its not like she is exceptionally wide or something, very skinny nevertheless. Also, can you post the newest crime Miku here?

>>25824609
Wasnt arcade Miku made by Sega too?

>>25824669
I just wanted to differentiate them easily since we're currently calling the mainline SEGA model SEGA Miku

>>25824609
the sega model is only one of the many miku models that have always existed, it got pushed as the canon one even though it sucks (nico choukaigi used tda for example which also sucks, but there have been others). the new model is fine, one of the main reasons zoomers (anyone who calls miku mike is a zoomer i'm sorry) push back against it is because it goes their established "canon", even though such a thing should never be limiting miku in the first place.

>>25824623
>her hips are wider than shoulders, have always been like that, thats normal for girls,
anime has melted your brain anon, its not normal for girls, only for anime girls. In the real world thats considered wide hips, the crime model really doesnt have hips that are much bigger than that (she does have short legs though which kinda skews the proportions).

>>25824623
Here, i had to load it up, if you think this is "fat" or makes you a chubby chaser i don't know what to say to you

>>25824873
Uhh, still horrible, doesn't even look like Miku. And dont tell me "hurr durr sega miku", we have just found out that Sega Miku has the "canonical" bodytype, same as Ixima and Kei

>>25824994
sega miku does not look like ixma miku at all i dont know where you got that, the only difference between the crime and the one you posted is the smaller waist and the skindentation, it still look far better than this abomination of a face ( >>25823387 ), and also has a bigger range of expression

>>25824873
Not him, but I always imagined Miku being more slim than that. It just fits her better in my head. These long thin legs, small frame, barely existent breast and ass are the best.
That being said, I still find all these variations of Miku incredibly beautiful, cute and attractive.

>>25824721
On pic related Miku doesnt look all that wide I think... And all 3dpds Ive seen always seemed to be much less thin than Miku,but maybe anime has melted my brain indeed...

>>25824721
That's it, I'm done. It's like I'm talking to a brick wall... I'm gonna go do something productive instead. I urge others to do the same
I'm just gonna point out that all your posts practically scream 'zoomer', as much as you try to complain about them, so I'd love you to leave.

>>25825072
Speaking about face, if those weird lips I was talking about got fixed, would something like pic related satisfy you?

>>25825124
>And all 3dpds Ive seen always seemed to be much less thin than Miku
What. Nearly all 3dpds are fat cunts in comparison to the beauty of Miku.

>>25824994
>>25824873
actually the shoulders are smaller on the crime miku now that i look at it, making her closer to the canon in proportions than the sega miku
>>25825124
those thighs are pretty big my dude, bigger than the sega miku, and yes 3dpd cannot match 2d no one will disagree here
>>25825143
not your blog, no one cares retard

>>25825154
Who does her hair look like large balloons.

>>25825154
the lips arent the only problem, the eyes are too far apart and a bit too low, i'm pretty sure most people here agree that the newest YYB miku is pretty much perfect in terms of balancing all the things miku should be, shes not as thicc as crime, and has a good middle ground between kei and ixima's miku.

>>25825156
Well, yeah. Like, when I was a kid I was told that girls are supposed to be wider than boys to bear children so I though that Mikus wideness isnt that wide, epsecially ocnsidering that a lot of 3dpds and anime girls look muuuch wider

>>25825211
The newest yyb is awesome, I agree, bjt I still kinda like Sega a lot...

>>25825217
Ah right, I misread what you wrote originally. Nevermind.

Which is the newest yyb model? 10th anniversary one?

>>25825217
miku herself isnt wide, its the proportions, her hips are wider in proportion to her shoulders than a normal girl would be, but she has small shoulders anyways so she still ends up looking small.
>>25825246
For all the shit i talked about sega miku i still like her and hold her dear to my heart, the negativity against trying new things and improving is what really pissed me off the most, r3 has room for improvement for sure, but its a sign that they want to improve and constructive criticism will help more than just shit talking and dismissing it immediately.

I will now go do something productive and reply later to anything, also dont take me calling people retards personally i do that every time i argue because im an asshole, im always happy to discuss miku's thighs though

>>25825301
https://twitter.com/sanmuyyb/status/1257880431011131392
https://twitter.com/sanmuyyb/status/1264738048534708224

>>25825072
Are you baiting or something? Literally the same fucking bodytype. And we have just compared their thighs, they are the same

>>25825386
Ah, looks so cute. Thank you.

>>25825396
smaller shoulders and bigger thighs on ixima, not the same literally just look at your picture now let me fucking leave

>>25825465
No
>>25824412
>>25824449

>>25825465
Also, shoulders are identical. Dont argue with me, I have spent hours examining every body part of Miku

>>25824211
>And lets be honest, Sega Miku is the closest to KEI's Miku
Actually, that's wrong
1052 is closest to KEI Miku
https://w.atwiki.jp/vpvpwiki/pages/157.html

>all this Miku's thighs fighting
Please continue. With images if possible as well

>>25826671
This is now a thigh fetish thread

>>25826190
yall got any more of them polygons

>Vocaloid Fes stream link when?

I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, didn't Miku have that streamed live concert in place of Magical Mirai? If so where can I download it?

>>25828144
Magical Mirai is still happening, just at 50% capacity, and Osaka was delayed until November. There was a livestreamed concert on Nico, if that's what you mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBuGyjb-3c0

What about Miku's dancing?
Should it be cute or sexy?
simple or technical?

>>25828741
It completely depends on the song.

Cheers39 DJ stream soon.
http://www.twitch.tv/cheers_39
>>25828741
All of the above.

Should Luka be cute or sexy?

>>25829205
More cringy acting with cool music, nice.

>>25829205
Pedo gang

>>25829205
what in the fuck is the point of this

>>25829847
>what is the point of listening to music with other people
hmmm

>>25829898
i meant what is the point of watching some cringy retard dancing, not the music

>>25829991
The video component is only there since they're streaming on twitch. If it's there, you might as well try to do something fun, I guess. I just put it on in the background and do something else.

>>25829686
What do you mean by this?

>>25830499
Apparently there were actual pedos at one of the Cheers39 events after Miku Expo

>>25830647
Sounds my kind of party.

>>25830647
Children who consider everything pedophilic, and pedophiles who prey on children... That's my kind of community.

Say what you will, but does this make anyone else want to do things to Miku?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODSOEYTkrVE

>>25831684
like wash all that shit out of her hair so its blue again? yeah

>>25822455
Sega use R3 for PD openings and looks very great for other things but for main gameplay the Sega model is the best

>>25832011
>Miku Expo
I know it's only been half a year but damn I miss it...really hope it's not TOO long before we can see miku live again.

>>25832011
https://youtu.be/DJy4oc_WhD0 You mean this creepy ass attempt to make an anime girl look "realistic"? Nah, looks way too different. Btw, that R3 Miku doesnt look that bad on your pic related, still needs work tho obviously

>>25828741
>Should it be cute or sexy?
>simple or technical?
Yes.

>>25832011
Only the MegaMix shader is able to salvage FT's Miku.

>>25827433
Well well well

>>25832364
Looks like a 3dpd. Watch this

>>25827433
Very well

>>25832550
Fap at 'em from amy angle

>>25824153
>>25824250
nostalgiafag cope, KEI is a similar case to ZUN, can make good and even amazing designs but doesn't have the skill to draw it well, by a film-making analogy they are amazing directors but shit actors

>>25832658
Originally, KEI's quality was meh, but in the recent year he has improved a lot, I absolutely love his artworks of Miku

>mfw
Getting mad for how wide and thicc must be Miku, because looks fat or skinny...

All i read is you guys are exaggerating.

Here pic related of standard models (API, CRIME V2.1)

An here an EXTRA THICC MIKU
https://youtu.be/dvql2d6dvBQ

>>25832766
AAAAAAAAAHH WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

Am I betraying Miku if I listen to other vocaloids? What about human singers? Please help.

>>25832766
>vid
Saving lives right there. That model is almost my idea of perfection if her knees didn't look so wonky

>>25832844
>Am I betraying Miku if I listen to other vocaloids?
No, they are all Miku friends.
>What about human singers?
No, since Miku exists to support artists, so she loves them as well. Unless it's a cover of a Miku song that is not a self-cover, then it's just someone stealing from Miku and usually Miku's producer as well.

Big Rin

>>25832927
that's a relief. I was kept up at night thinking about this. thank you so much anon.

>>25832932
Wonder how much it would cost to build IRL. The concept of a giant vocaloid statue visible from space just seems extremely amusing

>>25827697
wait until december

>>25829421
Cute sexyness

>>25828741
I don't know but I want Hyper Reality Show Live Miku to kick me and step on me.

>>25832766
>video
what's wrong with her "legs"

>>25836351
They jiggle, because of thiccness!, some found them sexy (i too) but the exaggerated butt, definitely not, i have not problem as long they are suble changes, not like those abominations edits where they put big breasts on her. I just enjoy the variety of Miku models not like that anon above.

here a funny commnet of vid

>"the fact that some of y’all find her chicken wing legs sexy is alarming,, she is 16!!!!! underage!!!!!!!! you are calling a 16 year old sexy!!!!!!!! she may be fictional but she is still a minor and aging her up still doesn’t excuse sexualising her. i don’t know where you all got the idea that aging her up excuses sexualising her, that’s literally like aging up a 10 year old so that it’s now ok to get off on it? they are still a minor!!!


also if any of y’all think it’s ok as the age of consent is 16 in some places, you still wouldn’t see a 16 year old in genuine pornography and definitely wouldn’t call them sexy when you have the knowledge that they are under 18. anyway enough said. enjoy being pedophiles ig"

Speaking of SEGA modules, I always found the 'adult' vocaloids have much better faces. Luka tends to look the best imo, but I am a huge Lukafag so I am biased to my goddess.

>>25836351
They jiggle, because of thiccness!, some found them sexy (i too) but the exaggerated butt, definitely not, i have not problem as long they are suble changes, not like those abominations edits where they put big breasts on her. I just enjoy the variety of Miku models not like that anon above.

here a funny commnet of vid

>"the fact that some of y’all find her chicken wing legs sexy is alarming,, she is 16!!!!! underage!!!!!!!! you are calling a 16 year old sexy!!!!!!!! she may be fictional but she is still a minor and aging her up still doesn’t excuse sexualising her. i don’t know where you all got the idea that aging her up excuses sexualising her, that’s literally like aging up a 10 year old so that it’s now ok to get off on it? they are still a minor!!!
>also if any of y’all think it’s ok as the age of consent is 16 in some places, you still wouldn’t see a 16 year old in genuine pornography and definitely wouldn’t call them sexy when you have the knowledge that they are under 18. anyway enough said. enjoy being pedophiles ig"

>>25829421
>>25837170
sexy, Luka have the "adult charm"

>>25837170
their eye shape is the main difference that stands out to me, and the same difference is also reflected in the v2 official art.

cool little detail.

>>25837181
That commnet is terrible. Why do these people exist and how soon can we gas them

>>25837181
There have always been dumb underageds and normalfags in Vocaloid video comments.

>>25837181
Cant tell if the dude is mocking twitterbros or is a twitterbro himself but I disliked his comment anyway

Old school MikitoP appreciation hours. Revisiting I Shared A Kiss With Hatsune Miku. Secret DVD is so good...

https://www.twitch.tv/cfm_official

>>25843741
Whaat? But Digital Stars is supposed to be on 31st

>>25843792
No it always said 30th

>>25843818
Well, Im big dumbdumb then

Why did they debut utsup live at miku expo?
is he more popular in the west?

>>25844622
Yes just look at the comments on his Youtube videos, they're 90% English.

>>25825496
Yes, your eyes are defective
>>25825552
they are literally smaller in that exact picture are you fucking blind

Why do djs insist on playing so many songs that aren't vocaloid or miku songs ?
on MIKUS BIRTHDAY???

>>25843741
I am livid.
This is god damn hype hours.

>>25837181
I find it funny how people like completely forgotten what's the point of all the minor protection laws. It literally is supposed to be about protecting but they all focus on restricting others instead, even though there is no one here to protect. Just law for sake of law.
Also USA is not whole world, 16yo are legal here and in many other countries.

Society, as a whole, should finally drop the idea of victimless crimes. It makes no sense.

>>25845641

>vtuber music
god is dead

What is the Vocaloid equivalent of this? https://youtu.be/iWpCdUQLWwU

>>25847401
its the new fad, just like how vocaloid once was.

Holy shit, theyre unironically playing hatdbass

>Emon
holy shit

i didn't know that Gumi songs were allowed too

>>25848172
If non-Vocaloid songs are allowed, I don't see how other characters wouldn't be.

happy synthesizer
NOICE

>potato time

>>25847097
i'm sorry you were born half blind anon, but that explains why you like sega miku, literally anyone with working eyes can tell that ixima draws miku with more slender shoulders than anyone else

SHAKE IT!

SHAKE SHAKE

That was a good set.

>Ward Room 305
whew

*ahem* FUCK VTUBERS

>>25848890
based
also the vtuner /jp/ thread needs to be moved to /v/

what the fuck is this set