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Ooh; hadn't heard.

RKS gameplay doesn't feel tight enough. Shit's slippery/awkward for my tastes

But... they're not the same genre. Why are you comparing them?

/rs/?

>>2542464
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1s1vla

>>2542457
They're both above-average quality doujin games with a colorful, all female cast of characters and good music.

>>2542464

>>>/rs/RosenkreuzStilette

>>2542479
thanks, I'll try it out.

it's currently being translated

>>2542753
ETA: 13th hour, 2012

>>2542443
Freudia is my wife.

I love the touhou games and have beat Megamari.
But RKS just takes difficulty to a level that is stupid.
I can't play that shit.

How hard is RKS as a platformer if compare to older stuff like megaman and mario?

>>2542792
I found Megamari to be a lot harder than RKS... at least for the stages anyway. Megamari bosses were lol.

>>2542443
Wait, you mean the RKS Megaman-esque game? Or some RKS game I haven't seen/played?

Also, I don't think it can surpass the sheer number of AND be loved by all like the Touhou characters.

Also, needs RKS fighter. I'm dying to play as Grolla

>>2542792
What. Only hard parts are Freudia's ice laser beams of fucking murder, wall cross boss, mold golem, and maybe that bitch Trauare.

>>2542481
Yes, but one is a platformer of some kind and one is a vertical shooter.

You can compare them as being part of the doujin market, maybe, but you can't even begin to ask "Now which is the better game?"

>>2542820
Actually, since "better" is subjective, the only real requirement is that you have two objects to compare.

Take apples and oranges, the classic example. I think oranges are better than apples. That simple.

>>2542859
That is not how comparing games works.

>>2542809
>RKS Fighter

Fund iiiiiiiiiit.

>>2542871
Depends on how you're comparing them, really.

>>2542889
Well, yes, you could do it in a way that makes sense, or you could be an idiot, and I'm sure there's some spectrum between the two.

I can't say anything for RKS's quality, but I think it came at the wrong time if it hopes to be as popular as Touhou

It's sort of clashing up against a titan, you know?

>>2542924
I'm sorry you have such a hard time with subjectivity.

>>2542801
Probably the same as any early Megaman game.

>>2542809
Grolla might be the most popular RKS character on /jp/ next to Freudia?

>>2542871
>>2542924
So instead of saying why you can't compare games of different genres you just insult the guy. Great job.

He's completely right in >>2542859.

>>2542939

All RKS needs is a silly flash video with a catchy remix of one of the game's songs, and it's on.

>>2542970
If by that you mean I believe objective analysis of games is not entirely impossible, then yes, I do.

>>2542970
If by that you mean I believe objective analysis of games is not entirely impossible, then yes, I do.

>>2542984
Utterly obvious and unnecessary.

If you're not an idiot.

>>2543209
>objective analysis


Since when did we get onto objective analysis?

Touhou is big because it tries to be original. RKS is just a doujin rip of Mega Man so it'll never be as huge as TH. I'm not saying RKS is a bad game, it just needs to be more original to reach the success of TH.

I don't think it'll get as popular as touhou, because I doubt erka:es will be willing to make a dozen+ games like touhou and adding more and more characters until some shitty memes spawn from them, getting other circles to cash in on it with music and flash videos.

If it does get enough following to encourage erka:es to keep at it for a decade, then it could perhaps happen. I highly doubt that'll happen because their situation is unlike ZUN's, being a group of people, they might not want to hold out that long.

>>2543246
>Touhou
>original

>>2543246

But Touhou is a "ripoff" of Dangun Feveron and other STGs. Even premise-wise it's Taito's Kiki Kaikai all over again.

But that's another way these two games are similar. Both TH and RKS completely lack any originality gameplay-wise, but they do an excellent job at emulating the games that they are inspired by.

>>2543288
You've never played the fighters.

Touhou 2: The Story of Eastern Wonderland? I liked it better when it was called Alice in Spaceland

>>2543302
Also, ZUN has a knack for endearing players to his characters, which is a discussion in itself.

>>2543350

dohoho

>>2543302
You're just pulling at straws, bro. There's not one shmup that Touhou directly copies. Rozenkreuz is a direct copy of Mega Man.

>>2543350

...huh? What's that?

>>2543393

I know you're just egging me on here, but it would be silly to think that everything about Touhou's scoring (like grazing) and emphasis on danmaku are all Japanese ZUN's original creations. It's as big as a clone as RKS is.

Both games obviously have different characters, stages, and music from the games they copy though!

>>2543302
This is the only way Touhou is related to Dangun

>>2543462
With that kind of logic, every game is a clone stemming from Pong.

>>2543478

Yeah. That's why I don't judge video games by this kind of stuff. It's very unfair to say that RKS is just a clone, while Touhou is original (it isn't).

They're basically both games that draw from multiple sources, and they do it quite well. In my opinion, that's sort of the key to creating a good game.

True originality is honestly quite rare. These things are doujin games afterall; they are not supposed to be original. They are grand tributes to the games which they were inspired by.

Did anyone ever notice that Rosenkreuzstilette has the exact same password scheme as Megaman IV?

>>2543560

ZUN !gaybar is right. I mean, just look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFQu4rW2dQ

0:24 - 0:34

Real creative there ZUN.

Protip: Most people don't like Touhou because of the games. It's already been established that the games are nothing special.

People like Touhou because of the wide variety of loli. That's all there is to it.

>>2543634
Am I supposed to be hearing Cirno's theme?

>>2543666

>666

Oh you sly devil.

>>2543676
gb2/a/.
We don't celebrate get whatsoever around here.

I'm horrible at Megaman games, so it's only natural for me to be incredibly shitty on RKS. Even though I find it awesome. Can't wait to die over and over again in Freudia mode.

At least Touhou is a bit more forgiving, I believe.

>>2543701
You think Touhou games are easier than Rosenkreuzstilette? Really?

I can't even multi-CC most Touhou games.

Freudia route where?

>>2543246
RKS isn't a clone or ripoff, moron.
It's called parody.
But I think there's some truth in that. If Touhou was a series of Megamari games, it would probably be less known.
The main games try to bring some unique elements to the game, like the spellcard system. Most other shmups just have bosses run through their patterns, here they are named which somehow seems to add to the characters(see icicle fall I guess).

Also keep in mind that RKS has 1 official game so far, Touhou has over a dozen and is running for a bunch of years. I doubt Touhou had a big following after HRtP.